1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I mean, I get here this morning and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: we've got bacon wrapped hot dogs. Okay, and Eric, one 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: of the guys that works on the show, says, you 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: guys have like eight mustards there. He's like, I'm not 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: feeling good about this. Do we have enough? Is this okay? 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Like people are really like sensitive about It's not that 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: big a deal. I mean, I like mustard, Okay, I 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: really like spicy mustard. People are like, I think people 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: taking it a little too far. It probably my fault. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I am Ross Tucker, former NFL player. 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: This is how we do every show. I got Anthony 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Davis and Terrence Clark and Padres Dodgers, all the stuff 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: seen already wants to say something, Paul, he wants to 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: say something. We're not even a minute into the show. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Somehow I'm talking about mustard because who's that guy, who's 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: the guy that starts every show? Who's that voice guy, 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Bob Schmidt. Bob Schmidt. No matter what I have in 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: my head how I want to start the show, I'm 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: always because that's like the only part I have to 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: really figure out. Right, I'm gonna start the show. Bob 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Schmidt always does something that totally changes my plan, and 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: we're off the rails here on a meat Friday. Yes, Paul, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: this goes back to I think checking my records twenty seventeen. 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: You hosted and we talked about mustard, and you love 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: for mustard, and you're out, Queen. The show is spicy 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: mustard for life. Yeah, spicy for life. Yeah, I have 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: no idea why I said that. Seton almost fell over 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: in his chair that day when I said that, yes, Seton. Well, 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: that's what I love so much about the start of 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: today's show, is that Russell. No matter how many times 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: you've come in here and hosted the show, when Dan 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: is out or been a guest on the show, there's 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: always something that I'm like, Wow, he still has so 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: much to learn about the show, Like what do you 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: mean make a big deal out of nothing? That's what 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: we do. We make a huge deal a lot of 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: the most minuscule things, such as yellow mustard versus spicy mustard, 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Like yeah, this, you say one thing one time, five seconds, 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and then forever you can ask Chris Mannix about this 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: for the rest of the life of the show. You're 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna be the mustard guy, and I love that. That's great. 43 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: So anytime I tweet that I'm coming on at Ross 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Tucker NFL or you guys do the two things, I 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: get hundreds of hundreds of and this instagram at Ross 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Tucker NFL are either spicy mustard stuff or Meathhead James Vanderbeek. 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: That's it. I get so many gifts or jifts or 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: whatever they're called of James Meathead Vanderbeek. It is so funny. 49 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I kind of like Ivy League meathead, but on this show, 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: I am Meathead James Vanderbeek. Paul, I mean, Fritzie. We 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: gotta get him on the show sometimes we really have to. 52 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: And we tried one time and like he declined, right, yeah, 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: it didn't work in a schedule. It wasn't like a 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: hard no. It's something that they were, you know, considering 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: at some point. I still don't even think I looked 56 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that much like the guy anyway. I am Ross Tucker, 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: former NFL offensive lineman. The die hards, the long time listeners, 58 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: the people that give their height and weight when they 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: call in. They know me by now. I've been here 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: about a million times. If you are a new listener. 61 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: You are part of the greatest group of listeners and 62 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: greatest all audience that I'm aware of. If you want 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: to be a part of the show, encourage you to 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: do so. Eight seven seven three d P Show. You 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: can email us DP at dan Patrick dot com. You 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: can always email me directly over at Rosstucker dot com 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: at DP show. On Twitter, you can be a part 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: of chat row at dan Patrick dot com. I like 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: to chime in on chat row from time to time. 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: I told you I'm at Rosstucker NFL. On Twitter. We 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: are live on Peacock. I did have my mother in 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: law text me forty five minutes ago, what channel are 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: you on? Now? I know she has Comcast, so I 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: know she has Peacock. I don't know how to tell her, Like, 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what channel it is, you know what 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I don't know what I know. It's 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: like on my remote, you can just say peacock. Have 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: her call in. I'm serious, have her call in on 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: the guys and back of Walker through I shall miss 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: a whole show. Well, I told her to ask my wife. 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, Rachel, I'm kind of doing a 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: show You're like, I don't know what channel peacock is 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: on your on your TV, but anyway, that's gonna cost 84 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: me next time I see her. Hi, Rachel, how are you? 85 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening watching whatever? She's definitely not listening. 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: She's watching. And of course I know Fox Sports Radio 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: all a million affiliates. I get people text me all 88 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: the time. Love all the people that'll text me eight 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: hours from now that listen on podcasts. I think you 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: guys know I got a bunch of those. Check out 91 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker podcast. Especially because I never know next 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: time that I will be here. So where should we start? 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we got six days to the draft. I 94 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: feel like, for whatever reason, I'm always here around draft time, 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: like either right before the draft or right after the draft, 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm always here around draftam. I love the draft. It 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of combines all of my favorite things college football, NFL. 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: And also I'd be more interested in being like a 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: GM than a coach. I think coaching would be cool, 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: but I like picking the players. I like the money. 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Not many former players do, but I would like the 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: John Lynch roll. I'm not, like, you know, campaigning for it, 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: but I'm more interested in that than being a coach. Yes, 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: mclovan maybe could be like Mike Mayock and do the 105 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: jump someday to a team. It's possible. You know. The 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: issue is I never got it. You know why I 107 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: never got into coaching or being in the front office. 108 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: I was tired of getting fired. I mean, by the 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: time I was twenty eight, I was the only Princeton 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: grad in the history of the institution to be fired 111 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: five times by the age of twenty eight. Think about that. 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: There's no chance any other Princeton graduate was fired five 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: times before age twenty cut different teams, any same team twice, 114 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: cut by Washington, cut by Dallas, cut by Buffalo, actually 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: traded by New England, cut by Cleveland, and then I 116 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: was gonna get cut by Washington again, but I hurt 117 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: my neck. Career over kind of started fell onto the 118 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: media thing. Well, you loved it was Bill Belichick. He 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: had made the trade that you were involved in with 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: these yeah, page, So when you love to have the 121 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: audio of that phone call and they were trying to 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: put you on the market, you know, like, I what 123 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick? Because he working with different teams and 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: say we got a guard here, Well, no, what's really 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: funny about it is it was during training camp, and 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: I had already been cut three times in my career, 127 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: So it's during training him. I'm supposed to be center 128 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: in the two minute drill with the Patriots back in 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I'm supposed to be center end 130 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: of the practice two minute drill and the old line 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: coach Dante Scarnekia put somebody else in, and I was like, oh, 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: that's not a good sign. We haven't even gotten to 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: a preseason game yet and they already don't like me. 134 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm beingging. This is bad, and I knew I was 135 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: battling for a job. Yesh, Eaton. Is that like the 136 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: day to day feeling that you have of sort of 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: like looking around and being like, wait, wait, why is 138 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: that guy in there? I'm supposed to be in there? 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Or is it is that sort of always hanging over 140 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: your head always? And the guys that say it's not 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: are liars. They're liars. It's it's when people always say, oh, 142 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: only just worry about where you can control. I don't 143 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: worry about what I can control. I worry about the 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: stuff I can't control. Like that's what you worry about? 145 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: And the people say I don't worry about that stuff. 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're such a liar, dude. When you put 147 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: your head on the bed at night, you're just like, Yeah, 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me that they moved me to third 149 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: string today. I'm not worried about that. Stop lying, dude, 150 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: Just be honest. So anyway, so after practice we break 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: it down and I'm thinking this is not good, and 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Scarnekia says, Tuck, I need to talk to you. I said, okay. 153 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: He's like, so here's what happened. Evidently during practice, we 154 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: traded you to Cleveland. And I was like, and I've 155 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: been cut three times. I was like, traded me for 156 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: what like a compliment? Right, that's a total compliment. Oh 157 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: my gosh. I thought it was so cool. I thought 158 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: it was so cool. Literally, the best team in the 159 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: NFL and the worst team. I was like, they trade 160 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: it for me, they won me, they like me, they 161 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: really like me. So he says, Scarnekia says, I don't know, 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: probably a bag of balls. He actually said it, yeah, 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I probably a bag of balls. He had no idea. 164 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: So I go in and I know I'm like starting 165 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: for the Browns. So I go in and I go 166 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: in the cold tub and Larryzo. I'm in the cold 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: tub with Brady and Larry isom some guys and Larryzo says, hey, 168 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I think he said he said something like, don't be 169 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: pissing in the cold tub before you leave. I laughed. 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: And somebody's like, hey, what's up. And I'm like, I actually, 171 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: I just got traded to Cleveland. And and I remember 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Brady was like reading the papers. Something's like wow, you know, 173 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: they're all looking at me. So I went into office 174 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: with Belichick and Pioli and they they told me how 175 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: it all went down, and I was like, okay, and 176 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I was very appreciative of the trade. Yes, Paulie. You know, 177 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: they didn't go to bat for you. They didn't. Brady didn't, 178 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, like throw his weight around. He'd probably had 179 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a ring or two at this point. He had three 180 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: at this point. They didn't have the rudy moment, Like 181 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Brady didn't go in there and take his jersey, lay 182 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: it on the Belichick's desk and be like, I'm not 183 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: playing if Tucker's not here. You know what's so funny? 184 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? Number One that we're gonna 185 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: go the whole first segment without talking about anything that 186 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: happened in sports yesterday, which is what we normally do. 187 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: But No Number two people are always shocked by this. 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I was thrilled that I got traded the Cleveland Browns 189 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: from the best team to the worst team in New England. Okay, 190 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: they had the starters. They even kind of had Russ 191 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Hochstein as the backup interior guy. I was battling for 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: the eighth or ninth spot in Cleveland. The Charles Bentley 193 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: tore his knee up, Bob Holland got hurt. As soon 194 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: as they traded me. I was the starting center for 195 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and I started the last three preseason games. Whatever. 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,239 Speaker 1: I remember distinctly, I wanted to have my car in Cleveland. 197 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to have my truck. So the guy, like 198 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: the GM of the Browns, it was like the VP 199 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: of whatever called me and hey, we got your flight 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll pick you up at the airport. Whatever. 201 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, actually, like I really I really want my car, 202 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna drive. These are your contract demands 203 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: with the Browns. Well, here's the thing. If you get cut, Okay, 204 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: you gotta pay for your move and everything. If you 205 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: get traded, the team that traded for you has to 206 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: pay for everything. Okay. So I'm like, I said that guy. 207 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, I really want to have my 208 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: car there. I'm just gonna drive the seven hours tonight, 209 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Like I'll get there like at two am. He's like, Russ, 210 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: we don't want our starting center driving seven hours through 211 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the night whatever it is from New England to Cleveland, 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Like we don't want that. Like, we'll ship your car. 213 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: We'll get your car here in a few days. Like 214 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: come on, man, I said, Okay, So I flew to 215 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland that night. Next day I was a Brown And 216 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that's the story I had. The actually didn't even get 217 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: on that story. We're talking to do this life is 218 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: a journeyman in the NFL getting traded. Oh no, I 219 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: know what it was. I was telling you guys why 220 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: I never wanted to be a coach or at GM. 221 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: I was so sick of getting five getting fired. August eighth, 222 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. This is Patriots dot com. Patriots 223 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: trade off into Linman Ross Tucker to Cleveland for undisclosed 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: draft choice. You know what, it was the highest honor 225 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: that can be bestowed on a professional football player, a 226 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: conditional seventh round pick condition. Literally, now have you guys 227 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: ever seen me like on social media? When any guy 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: gets traded for the conditional seventh round pick, I will 229 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: welcome him to the club on social media. I'll be like, 230 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: welcome to the club, dude. That's the that's it's literally 231 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the lowest thing they will allow you to be traded for, 232 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: right because the condition additional seventh round pick. And by 233 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the way, I started the last three preseason games for Cleveland. 234 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: I played fine. They cut me. I'm not gonna start 235 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: the opener. They traded for Hank Fraley on cutdown day 236 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and cut me. I drove five hours back to Pennsylvania. 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: That was rough. But I said that the GM Phil Savage. 238 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I said, Phil, I'm an average player. You traded for me. 239 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I came here and played average. That's what I am. 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: And you're cutting me. Why did you trade for me 241 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: if you didn't want average? I gave you what you 242 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: traded for average, and now you're trading and now you're 243 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: cutting me. And he's like, well listen ross d blah 244 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: blah blah. That basically Hank Fraley was a more accomplished center. 245 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I was a more accomplished card. They needed a center, 246 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and then my salary would have been guaranteed. The guy 247 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: who ended up being the backup, his salary wasn't guaranteed. Whatever, 248 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it's my sob story. But anyway, So 249 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing. The Patriots traded me for a conditional 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: seventh round pick, and they didn't even get it. They 251 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: didn't even get the seventh round pick. They're in the 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: eight round picks. I did not think the condition was that. 253 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Don't show that picture. Oh my gosh, that's the worst 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: picture I've ever My mom hates that picture. I don't 255 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: know why I looked that terrible. I have BedHead, I've 256 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: got like nine bock shadow. I'm fat, I'm really super pale, 257 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: and we're showing that on national TV right now. Gosh, look, 258 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: show me now, show me now. I got my virtual 259 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: beard Pong Champion of the World shirt. I'm two forty 260 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: eight this morning. Yeah, show me now. By the way, 261 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are like this, see 262 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: is just laughing. I'm just I just want to go 263 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: on record, a Sey, this is the best segment you've 264 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: ever done. Why if it is, it's so entertaining. This 265 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: is the best segment you've ever done, by the way, 266 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: I despise how I look without a beard. You guys, 267 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: ever you ever liked that where you look back at 268 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: how you looked like five years ago, ten years I 269 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: now think I look like a total loser without a beard. 270 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I've had a beard for like three years now, and 271 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: I want to say to people like, hey, where were 272 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: you the first thirty eight thirty nine years? Tell me 273 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: I look like a total dweeb. So it is probably 274 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: you're locked in now. You either it's like if you 275 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: have a beard and then you have to get rid 276 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: of it after six months, and then six months later 277 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: you can take it back, or if you just go 278 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: straight through now you're just locked in. You know what's 279 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: so funny? I used to come beyond the damn Patrick's show, Like, 280 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: especially when you guys are like in a New York 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: studio and all of the millennials, right, they'd all have 282 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: like the tight T shirt, the tight jeans, and they'd 283 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: have a beard. And I'd be like, what is the 284 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: deal with all these kids in their twenties having beard? 285 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: Do you ever may need a beard? That's now. Yeah, 286 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm that guy. Now I got the two tight 287 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: T shirt, the two tight jeans, and the beard. I'm 288 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: like a fake millennial. I'm a meathead and millennial. I'm 289 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: a fake meathead and millennial. Yes. Do you think if 290 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: at the time you had grown a beard instead of 291 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: that nine o'clock shadow, things would have worked out differently 292 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: with the Patriots? I don't know it would have can't 293 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: rule it out. It would have helped. I don't think 294 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: beards were cool then, although like Matt Light had a 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: beard back then. You never know. Maybe it could have 296 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: made me a better player. Maybe it would have made 297 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: me tougher, a little more intimidating or something. I'm gonna 298 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell people about the a little bit today. 299 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Now that we're seventeen minutes into the show, we're gonna 300 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: have Charles Davis from NFL Network and CBS in about 301 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: five minutes. He obviously does terrific draft work for NFL Network. 302 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: He not only came out with a mock draft, but 303 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Charles had his guys like his seventeen guys he loves. 304 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I love when analysts do that. We gotta get Darren 305 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: Ravel at ten am Eastern because of this new jersey 306 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: change rule, which, by the way, we're gonna talk about 307 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: on multiple levels. So number one, we got Ravell on 308 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: because if a guy wants to change their jersey, right 309 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: so now, like running backs, wide receivers can be a 310 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: single digit I know you guys talked about it yesterday, 311 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: just like college. But if they want to switch, they 312 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: have to buy all of the inventory of the jerseys 313 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: that are already out there. So I watch want to 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: hear from Ravel, like, Okay, how much money are we 315 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: talking that these guys have to pay? And by the way, 316 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: can't they make up for it with everybody buying their 317 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: new jersey? So Ravel, that's what he does, So we'll 318 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: have him at ten o'clock. Adam Lefco is my dude. 319 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: He's from suburban Philadelphia, just like me. NBA on TNT, 320 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Lakers. Ad is back 321 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: played last night, not particularly well, stopped playing at halftime. 322 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Forget his thoughts on the Lakers, the Knicks, the Nets, 323 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: my Sixers, and obviously the MVP Joel and beat although 324 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't know we got different thoughts on that. How 325 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: about a congressman, if you guys had a lot of 326 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: congressman on the show before senators, some presidents, a few congressman. Yeah, 327 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. I feel like, and I'm 328 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna say this now, I don't want to say it. 329 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: When Anthony Gonzalis, the former Ohio state funck Eye in 330 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: first round pick is on, I feel like senator sounds 331 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a decent amount cooler than congressman. Like senator sounds like 332 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: really important. Congressman is like, what is even it? What 333 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: is a congressman? What do they even do? Yes, there's 334 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: so many congressmen and there's somebody districts. It's like maybe 335 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: you represent like town or two, a couple of blocks 336 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: the center and there's two in each state. That's a 337 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: and it just sounds very military, very like five star 338 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: general kind of thing. I will say this, congressman's sounds 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: better than a representative, like a house of representative, Like 340 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: you're a representative. I don't want to be a representative. 341 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: A congressman sounds better than that. Would you make people 342 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: if you were Anthony Gonzallas, would you make people call 343 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: you congress? I think they kind of do, at least 344 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: in a public setting, Like if he walked in here, 345 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: I would go good to meet your Congressman, I wouldn't 346 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: call hey, Anthony. I think I think that's one of 347 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: those titles you go, right, like if a coach, just 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: like doctor yeah, or coach. Even like when we have 349 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: coaches and everyone Irban Meyer comes in here, we go 350 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: good to meet you, coach. We don't go good to 351 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: meet you urban or coach or mister Meyer. You co coach. 352 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: It's a title. So I'm gonna when he's on and 353 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: be like, so congressman, Yeah. It's kind of weird to 354 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: say that, though to somebody younger than you, if you'll say, 355 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: call me big Tony who knows and you guys a 356 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: former NFL player, you guys have a bond. So we'll 357 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: get into all the name, image and likeness stuff. I 358 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: guess Ohio, he's not only introducing a national Name, Image 359 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and Likeness bill, which is, if those of you are 360 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: not familiar, it's the college kids being able to get 361 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: paid for their jerseys and social media and stuff. But 362 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: he's also getting legal sports betting in Ohio. He's having 363 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: a big week. That's a heck of a week. By 364 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: the way, that's exactly the kind of bills I would 365 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: pass if I were a congressman, sports bills forget the 366 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: stuff that really matters to my constituents. So I'm just kidding, 367 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm kidding' kidding, I'm kidding. I am totally kidding. All right, 368 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: So we'll have Charles Davis. We want to get into 369 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady stuff. Tom Brady is mad, like legitimately mad, 370 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about it as we move along. 371 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Why he's so mad and why I am mad that 372 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: people that don't understand why Brady's mad keep talking about it. 373 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, why Brady being this mad on 374 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: April twenty third is exactly why he's Tom Brady Padres Dodgers. 375 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Is that the best rivalry in baseball? That was awesome 376 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: last night. And I still don't understand why Niners fans 377 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: hate Mac Jones so much. I mean they really despise him. 378 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes past the hour. This is a Dan Patrick's Show. 379 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 380 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 381 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 382 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 383 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app and 384 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: I am joined now by not only one of the 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: best analysts in the business, one of the best guys. Charles. 386 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard someone say a bad word about Charles Davis, which, 387 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm always a little skeptical guys like that, right, Like, 388 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: I know that bad things people can say about me, 389 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: and they're probably true, But how can you be how 390 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: can you live this long and nobody says a bad 391 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: thing about the guy? Charles Davis does a terrific job 392 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: for CBS Sports, for NFL Network. He is all over 393 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: the draft. Charles, It's Ross great to talk with you 394 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: as always, buddy. Hey, Ross is good to talk with 395 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: you as always as well. And trust me on this, 396 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: This not a bad word. It's awfully kind of you 397 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: to say. You just haven't been hanging out in the 398 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: right place, all right, So so Charles and all sincerity. 399 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: You know, we can talk here. There's nobody listening. What 400 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: is like if somebody had to say something negative about you, 401 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: like if I asked your wife like or even yourself, 402 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: like what are your high school buddies? What would be 403 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: the one thing they would say? You know, Charles, awesome, 404 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: but this or that, by the way, I met one 405 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: of your high school buddies one time who told me 406 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you were by far the greatest high school athlete from 407 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: your hometown. Oh is it Dave Ryan? Maybe? Wow? You 408 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: know you know Ryano. Yes, he told me you were 409 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: by far the best high school athlete ever from where 410 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: you guys are from an upstatement anyway, what's the what's 411 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the what's the one? Tiny? Little Charles Dave Flaw? Oh, 412 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that. It's tiny, and we could go 413 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: for a while, but I'll give you the one. I 414 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: can be a little negative, you know. I can go 415 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: to that. I can go to the word no a 416 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: lot quicker than I should. You know, Like someone will say, hey, 417 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: why don't we do it? Nah? I don't want to 418 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: do that, and I don't even thought about it. I 419 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: just immediately right to know, hey, maybe we should consider Nah, 420 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do that. And in retrospect, after a little 421 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: bit of time, I might be the one that bounces 422 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: through and goes, hey, why don't we do such it? 423 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: And they're like, we just said we should do that. 424 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know. If I said I want to 425 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: make it my idea, I don't know what it is. 426 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just defensive that way, but I can be 427 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: that way. I can be a little bit on the 428 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: negative side. And I'm always on the lookout ross for 429 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: I even know how to say it the right way 430 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: being wronged? Does that make sense? And I'm not one 431 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: of those who is just automatically, hey, you're doing me wrong. 432 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not confronting people or whatever. I'm just 433 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: making sure, okay, is this the right thing? And then 434 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: half the time I walk away going what was I doing? Why? 435 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Why am I even in that type of a space. 436 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: So those are a few to get us started. And 437 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: like I should go to a couch right now, and 438 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: you have on a cardigan, have a pipe, and you 439 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: should be nodding while you're writing down your grocery list 440 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: and not listening to a word I'm saying. You know 441 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: what's funny? By the way, that's actually a great question 442 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: to ask draft prospects on those zooms, like what's the 443 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: worst part about you? Mine is one of mine is 444 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: I have no patience? Like we went skiing a couple 445 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: of weeks ago and there was a line. It was 446 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: probably like a five minute line. It wasn't that bad. 447 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: And I said to my brother in law. I know 448 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: that this isn't a big deal, and I know that 449 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: this shouldn't bother me, but I am pissed off right now. 450 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: I hate this line. I hate it. I want to 451 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: be on the lift and I want to ski down 452 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: right now. I don't want to be in this line. 453 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: Lines are for losers. He's like, just it's good that 454 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: you acknowledge that deep breaths. Deep breaths, so we all 455 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: have good Well, I will say this before you go on. 456 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: That's an excellent question. And I wonder if we would 457 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: put that to the prospect's mother that plopped down in 458 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: front of the zoom and said she would be answering 459 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the questions for her son. Did you see that story? No, yeah, 460 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I just saw it. I think I saw it last night. 461 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who broke it, who had it, and 462 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to not give them credit, But I 463 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: also don't want to credit the wrong person because in 464 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: that business, as you know, you know who got to 465 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: that story first. Making sure that the proper people are credited. 466 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I did read this that a team reported that when 467 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: they went to have the zoom with the prospect, mom 468 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: sat down in the chair and said that she would 469 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: be answering the questions for her son. Wow. So we 470 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: hear about helicopters. We hear about this in business world, 471 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: where the parents show up at work to negotiate their 472 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: kids rays to go over their performance reviews. We hear 473 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: about all these things. This is you know, look, this 474 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: is a new world with zooms and all that, So 475 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: why not. But we've had we've had parents be involved 476 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: in stuff before. As a parent myself, I've been you know, 477 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: having to meet with teacher, having to meet with teachers 478 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: and coaches. I hope I've done it the right way. 479 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: But we hear about these stories all the time. But 480 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: this one, this is new. Talking with Charles Davis, NFL 481 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Network analyst, CBS Sports analyst, He's all over the draft 482 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: always every year. You know, we've totally moved on, Charles 483 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: from the first two picks. All anybody cares about number three. 484 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: But I gotta ask you, like, are you sold on 485 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson at two? Are you bought in on what 486 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the Jets are doing? I am, and I bought more 487 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: so because I bought it on Zach Wilson. So I 488 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: guess the best way to answer at Ross's whoever is 489 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: it too, And if they wanted Zach Wilson, I would 490 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: be bought in on them. I really think that when 491 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: you put him in total and you go through everything 492 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: that you've seen, I see a toughness to this kid 493 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: that maybe he doesn't get credit for having played through 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: injuries for a couple of seasons, thumb, shoulder, things that 495 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: are really going to affect a quarterback. He beat out 496 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: a popular senior quarterback, Tanner Mango, as a freshman to 497 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: win the job, and that's not easily done, you know, 498 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: because people like to gravitate towards the older players, especially 499 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: at the position like quarterback. And then to see him 500 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: go all in, get healthy and come back this year 501 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: and have the year that he had and we can 502 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: talk schedule, we can talk this, we can talk that. 503 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm not having it. I think the kid is a 504 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: legit item. I like what I see from him. I'm 505 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: not as concerned about the size as some people are. 506 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine going forward. We've seen smaller 507 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks make it and make it big. I'm bought in 508 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: with him because I think the Jets have a true 509 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: plan going forward on how they're going to do things. 510 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: So I know the answer to this question, Charles, because 511 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: you and I talk recently on my podcast, but I 512 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: want people to hear from you. You know, we all 513 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: know Trevor Lawrence is the guy, but you recently wrote 514 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: a story for NFL dot com where you had the 515 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: seventeen guys you would pound the table for. Which is 516 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: the expression they use when coaches or GM say this 517 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: guy is the man your quarterback? You say, this guy 518 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: excites me the most when I think about seeing how 519 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: it all progresses. It's Trey Lance from FCS North Dakota. Stay, 520 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: why is he the quarterback that excites you the most? 521 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: He's the full combo of everything you're looking for. Ross size, 522 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, speed, got the biggest arm in the draft. 523 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Now what that means to everyone, I don't know. Is 524 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: that like a Nolan Ryan fastball that he couldn't control 525 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: early his career or is it the Nolan Ryan fastball later? 526 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's all those things that go into it. 527 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: But all I know is this. The kid is seventeen 528 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: and sixteen and oz and North Dakota State has been 529 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: good for a long time and they won championships with 530 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Easton Stick with Carson Wentz with Rock Jensen, who's one 531 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: people might not remember who kept Carson Wentz on the bench, 532 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: so they know how to win. But he had to 533 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: come up the same way. And my comp for him 534 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: as Josh Allen. He and Josh were both doubted coming 535 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: out of high school. Both of them ended up at 536 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: schools off the beaten path. Both of them, would you know, 537 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: have been plagued with the I don't know how accurate 538 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: he is. I don't know if he plays against good competition, 539 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: and we've seen how Josh has progressed. I hear about 540 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: the brain, the football IQ of Trey Lance. He's the 541 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: jim Rat that you want, and when I see him 542 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: put it all together, I'm excited about watching this progress. 543 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: And that's why if I'm San Francisco at three, I'm 544 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: taking a good hard look at him, field d and 545 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: mac Jones before I make that final decision, especially if 546 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm keeping Jimmy Garoppolo around. If I've got Garoppolo sitting 547 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: there and I can develop Lance a little bit, because 548 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it with this ross. Normally, when I 549 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the top five, he's starting for 550 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: me from day one normally, but when a kid coming 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: out of you know, one double a only one game 552 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: last year, it wouldn't hurt at all. He had someone 553 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: in front of him for a little while. But if 554 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: he gets drafted in the top five, it's not gonna 555 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: last long. You not know that the person signing the 556 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: checks is coming to the office going Yo, when's he 557 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna play. That's how it works when you had young quarterbacks. 558 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: So it sounds like Charles. I don't want to put 559 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: words in your mouth, but if the Niners pass on 560 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: him at three, it sounds like you think the Falcons 561 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: should take him at four. I think he'd be ideal 562 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: to me. It's the perfect fit at four because Matt 563 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Ryan's going to play. And you were talking, you know, 564 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: and you've made some very nice statements about me that 565 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: I absolutely cherish Ross And I'm not saying that with 566 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. It means a lot. And you know, 567 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: for us as guys, dropping our veneer sometimes gets a 568 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: little difficult. But I just want you to know it 569 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: really means a lot for you to me about what 570 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: you said. But think about Matt Ryan. Have ever have 571 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: we met a quarterback in recent years? That's his giving 572 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: of himself as his pure of heart, a good teammate 573 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: like a Matt Ryan. So even if Matt Ryan's upset 574 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: that you draft a quarterback and every quarterback that's the 575 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: starter gets mad if you draft another quarterback, even in 576 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: the seventh round, He's going to take care of this 577 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: young man. Okay, he's going to show him the right example. 578 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: He's going to teach him all those things. He's gonna 579 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: tell him, Look, you need to observe and watch. I'm 580 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: not gonna hand it to you. But he's also not 581 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: going to shy away from questions, extra film sessions, all 582 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: of those things. What a great way to break in, 583 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: plus an offense that is already been productive and somewhat 584 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: ready to roll. So I would love that fit for 585 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: him if he were to go to Atlanta and have 586 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a year of Matt Ryan, because I think after that 587 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta would be ready to really start the Arthur Smith regime. 588 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: And maybe Matt Ryan's looking for a place with a 589 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: contender to finish out his career. We'll see, I don't know. 590 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: All right, wrapping up here with Charles Davis from NFL Network, 591 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's play that out then, Charles. Let's say 592 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: the Falcons do that and take Trey Lance at four. 593 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Then Cincinnati has their pick of Jamar Chase Penny Soul 594 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: or Kyle Pitts, who a lot of people feel like 595 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: is the best player in the draft. Let's say you 596 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: are Duke Tobin or you are a player for the Bengals, whatever, yep, 597 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: which one of those three guys are you pounding the 598 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: table for? If the Bengals have all the options, all 599 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: the non quarterback options at five, well, I'm old school, 600 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: so I'd want to go ahead and immediately say tackle 601 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: to protect, to protect Joe Burrow and Anthony Munios is 602 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: already signed off on that. But I look at this 603 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: draft and I think that I can come back in 604 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: the top of the second round and get a pretty 605 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: darn good tackle. Again, I don't know if I'm passing 606 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: on Kyle Pitts tight ends or young quarterbacks best friends. 607 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: They absolutely love them. They're right in their sight lines. 608 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: It throws are easy. I'm doing the Joey Tribani air 609 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: quotes because nothing's easy in the NFL. But those are 610 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the ones that get out of your hands. Quicker get 611 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: to the eye, he turns it upfield. And Pitts is 612 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: a kind of guy who makes big plays for you, 613 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: so it's going to be very difficult for me to 614 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: pass on him. Although I have to say ross. Every 615 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: year we go into this and we always have the 616 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: buzzwords and the buzz phrases, and I can speak them 617 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: as well as anyone. Right, you can speak football, I 618 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: can speak football, and sometimes we drive ourselves crazy doing it. 619 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: But the word this year to me is generational. I 620 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I'm hearing generational used way 621 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: more than I've heard in the past. Trevor Lawrence is 622 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: one of those generational quarterbacks. Kyle Pitts is a generational talent, 623 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: and to me, what that beans is he's really good 624 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: and maybe the best one in the draft. You should 625 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: go get him. We'll find out if they're generational based 626 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: on their career. And I'm not saying it as a negative, 627 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: even though, as I told you, I can get that way. 628 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: It's just funny how we indoctrinate all those things and 629 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: they become part of the lexicon. We used to say 630 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: a guy through the ball really well, Now we say 631 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: as arm talent. I mean, it's just out works well. 632 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: And the best part about the generational thing is two things. 633 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: Number One, It reminds me, what's that? What movie is 634 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: that where the guy says, I don't think that word 635 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: means what you think it means. Princess Bride. Maybe Princess Bride. 636 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: I think that word means what you think it means. 637 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: And that's number one and number two generational. We literally 638 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: had back to back generational pass rushers, Nick Bosa the 639 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: one year and then Chase Young the next year. I 640 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: don't think you know what generational means. Charles Davis, the 641 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: nicest guy in the world and a terrific analyst. Thank 642 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: you so much, man, Really appreciate it. Ross. Always a 643 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: pleasure to spend time with you. Thanks for having me 644 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: on continued success and look forward to seeing in person 645 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: again real soon. Absolutely cannot wait. There he is Charles Davis. Yes, Paulie, 646 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: great call eighty seven. Princess Bride. You keep using that word. 647 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: I do not think it means what you think it means. 648 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: But what was the word that it was being used 649 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: to mean that? I don't know. Oh, that would be 650 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: a good yes, Ross, you are a generationally great guest host, 651 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: by the way. Oh yeah, but that's true. Hopefully you 652 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: hopefully you actually feel that way. 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Well, I 695 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: was about to ask, and maybe in all sports right now, 696 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of the NFL and NBA rivalries are 697 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: kind of dead. Maybe raven Steelers, but like as a 698 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys Redskins the same. It's when you played for the Redskins' 699 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 1: Storry Washington football team. No, you know, it was really 700 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: weird about that. By the way, when I was in Washington, 701 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: they had lost to Dallas like eight or nine times 702 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: in a row, and it was like an obsession. When 703 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: I went to Dallas, they were like, yeah, Washington just 704 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of another team. It really it was really really interesting. 705 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: All right, we got to get to something, and that 706 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: is this new Jersey rule. Wow, that sounded like it 707 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: was about the state of New Jersey. They're not gonna 708 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: let on Jovi and Springs. Now, I'm just kidding. The 709 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: new NFL Jersey rule. Okay, so forever there were very 710 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: specific designated numbers for different position groups, like, for example, 711 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: offensive line fifty to seventy nine, linebackers forty to fifty nine, 712 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: or ninety to ninety nine. You know, running backs, wide 713 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: receivers had to be in the eighties or the teens. 714 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: They've changed it. You know, college never had those rules, 715 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: which is why like Chase Young wore number two and 716 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: man Ti Tao number five and whatever. It's changed. The 717 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: rule just changed. And Tom Brady and by the way, 718 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: most people are happy about it because there will be 719 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Darren Ravel at the top about 720 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: how many guys he thinks will actually change their jersey numbers. 721 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: But most people think it'll be cool to watch Dalvin 722 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: Cook wear number four or Derrick Henry number two, and 723 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: oh you know some of these guys wear number one, right, 724 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: So most people are excited about it. Not Tom Brady. 725 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady said, good luck trying to block the right people. Now, 726 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: gonna make for a lot of bad football. He later 727 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: called it dumb on Instagram. Why not let the lineman 728 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: where whatever they want to? Why have numbers? Just have 729 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: colored jerseys? And he added the NFL and the NFL 730 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is mad and mclovin, what was your initial 731 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: action when you saw the Brady Instagram post. So Tom 732 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Brady's been very funny on social media since he got 733 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: to Tampa. So I kind of thought he was joking because, 734 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: like you know, obviously you know, if a guy, if 735 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: the defensive end is wearing number seven, you're not gonna 736 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's a quarterback. I gotta let him go. 737 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that complicated. I kind of 738 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: thought he was pulling on a leg and I didn't 739 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: want to be like I didn't want to send a 740 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: note around saying, do you see what Tom Brady said? 741 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: Then find out Tom Brady was pulling my legs. So 742 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: I was cautious. I thought it was a joke. So 743 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: number one is not a joke. Number two, he's legitimately angry. 744 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: And as I tweeted yesterday at Ross Tucker NFL, Brady 745 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: being that angry on April twenty second about a uniform 746 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: rule change when he's forty three years old. After you 747 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: just wanted to say, that's why he's Tom Brady. That 748 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: is why he's Tom Brady because it means that much 749 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: to him, because he cares. Now here's the deal mcglovin. Okay, 750 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: especially Brady, but most quarterbacks at the line of scrimmage, 751 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: they are in charge of setting the protection. So let's 752 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: say the offensive lineman are responsible for the four D 753 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: lineman and the middle linebacker one linebacker. Well, then the 754 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: running back knows he's responsible for the next guy, the 755 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: weak side linebacker or the nickel corner. The receivers know 756 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: that if the sam linebacker comes, they're hot. Okay. One 757 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Brady's been so successful is he's 758 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: very good at identifying when blitzes are coming, changing the 759 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: number of who we are I ding as the middle linebacker, 760 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: so that let's say we think the middle linebackers fifty six. 761 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: Right here, he sees the safety walking down number twenty eight. 762 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: He sees that, Brady, you'll say fifty twos the mic, 763 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: fifty twos, the mic the will linebacker. So now as 764 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, we're not blocking fifty six anymore. We're blocking 765 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: fifty two. The running back has twenty eight. It makes 766 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: it easier for Brady to change those things and to 767 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: see the blitzes. The idea is you want the offensive lineman, 768 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: the five offensive lineman to block the five biggest guys 769 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: that are gonna rush or the five most noteworthy guys. 770 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: If d lineman are wearing number two or a linebacker's 771 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: wearing twenty two, and as Satty's wearing something in the forties, 772 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: you think he's a linebacker. It's gonna make it harder 773 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: for Brady. That's how he's been able to He's got 774 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful football mind, right, That's one of the ways 775 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: in which he's been able to quickly say, change protections, 776 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: you got fifty eight, change the mic. That's different now, 777 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it more later. And by the way, 778 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: the funny thing about it is Brady will just memorize 779 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: all these guys numbers, and Brady will be the best 780 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: at it. It's the other quarterbacks that are gonna be screwed. 781 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: It's yet. But he doesn't like change. And by the way, 782 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: as we get older, none of us like change. One 783 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: hour down, two to go Spicy for life.