1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the whitetail woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts, 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: case Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: It's a scorture for late October. But don't worry everyone, 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: the weather is turning. A cold front happens to be 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: on the way, at least for part of the country. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: The dear going nuts. This is Retfresh. Let's go. What's 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: going on? Everyone? 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio, brought to you by First Like here, 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Casey Smith and Tyler Jones is here 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: and we are doing the thing. 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Guys. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: We are in a motail hotel, holiday inn deer hunt, 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: having the time of our lives, eating peanut butter and 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: jellies and chasing deer around. 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: Tyler yide jokes. 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: We are, man, That's all we do around here. 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 2: If you don't laugh, just it's not because it's not funny, 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: just because you're not a part of it. So the 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: word on the street is that better deer hunting is 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: close on the horizon. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Do you believe it. No, Okay, I don't. 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: That's where you're at. 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. And this is a neat thing. 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: And we're gonna hear about this in a little bit 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: from from the guests today, guys. But there's a weird 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: thing that's going on right now in the country of 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: deer hunting, and it's there's regionality to conditions, and we're 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: gonna spread it out a little bit and talk to 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: some different people in different parts of the country. 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: But some of the country is really excited about a 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: coal front. 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: Other parts of the country, like where we are, it's 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: blazing hot, Tyler. 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: If you're in a blazing hot place, what do you do? 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd probably either check out some water or 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: I would hunt like I did this morning when it 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: was cooler weather than when I do in the evening. 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: When I did in the evening, which was last night, 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: where I did not see a deer. 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a buck last night, but I didn't 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: see one this morning. How far did that buck move 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: in daylight last night? In so in shooting light I 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: saw this deer. I think it was an hour and 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: twenty minutes before the end of legal shooting light. The 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: deer came by my stand ten minutes after legal shooting 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: loight so, and he was how far away he was 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: eighty two one hundred yards. 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: When I first saw him. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 2: So now there's a chance he lays like a cormile 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: the other way and came back. Okay, but that's highly unlikely. 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: He moved less than sixty yards in the daylight. Yeah, 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: that's over an hour and a half pretty much. 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 4: If the wind ain't blowing pretty strong, it's gonna be 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: hard to set up within sixty yards of that. 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Well, the problem is if I don't known where he was, 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: then I could have set up well, maybe in a 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: more advantageous spot. At least I wouldn't have been able 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: to get a lot closer, But maybe I could have 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: gotten a spot where I would have had a shot 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: at him at least before the clock turned to no 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: longer legal. 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: But because it was a public. 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Land hanging hunt where I was just guessing and putting 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: together my best thoughts on map scouting and this and that. Yeah, 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: we saw the deer stand up and rub a tree 69 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: for ten minutes, but we didn't know he was there 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: until he did that, right, And sometimes that's what you 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: deal with. 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: Well, there's a high chance he was just laying right 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: there until he stood up. Huh, because they tend to 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: do that when they stand up, start rubbing stuff, looking 75 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: on branches and stuff. 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Your first piece of 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: advice was to find some water. Are you gonna listen 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: to that yourself for the evening? Uh? 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: Huh? Man, that's I'm so confused and not confused. I'm 80 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: so far from having a plan for this evening. There's 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: this thing that most humans will understand and commiserate with 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: on me or for me or with me or how 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: have you said? That? This is this thing called work, 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: And we've been doing it in this midday. In fact, 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: I have a pretty good idea where a shooter buck 86 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: is betted and I have not been able to go 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: glass and try to stalk in and shoot this buck 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: because of the hours of work we've been putting in 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: doing stuff that these people listening are going to listen 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: to you. 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you enjoy Reugh Fresh, just remember Tyler 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: Jones is not killing a deer just for you right now. 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: It's it, man. But hey, you know, I mean sometimes 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: some different types of hunting media are not about killing things. 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: So it's right. 96 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: If that deer stays there all day where you think 97 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: he's betted. Is he going to drink water today? 98 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Uh? Man, I I would think if he does not 99 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: eat a per simon, he's probably gonna drink water, because 100 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: I would during the day you think, though, well, I 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 4: don't know about that just in this in this next 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: twelve hours or so, maybe I would think there's not 103 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: enough green stuff around for him to just fully get 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: what he needs out't want. 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: It is crispy. 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: So where we're at in the country, it would seem 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: that there was a light frost which has killed a 108 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: lot of the forbes, a lot of the herbaceous growth. 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: And you pair that with not. 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Extreme drought, but it's drought. It's drier than it should be. 111 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Then you end up with deer that are going to 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: be looking for something to drink. 113 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 4: I think I wish we had about five more cameras 114 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: right now. We could put some on some water, more 115 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 116 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 5: There. 117 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, we we could. We could 118 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: use a lot of cameras right now this time of 119 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: the year. It'd be nice to have the ones we've 120 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: got out already out and then another five more so 121 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: so we want to send us some cameras, it'd be great, Uh, 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: but I I wish we did because I would put 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: some on water sources. And then I have a couple 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: of fence crossing that I'd like to have some some 125 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: cameras on as well. Right now. 126 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: Interesting because I had one of those fences. What are 127 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: those fences separating from it's separating? 128 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 4: This is a good question because I don't know fully, 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: but it would seem that they're separating food from betting. 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: But I don't know what the food is. And that's 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: that's the most confusing part of this. 132 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: I've seen. Here's the thing I've seen. 133 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I've seen deer grazing, which I know some just ahead 134 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: scientists are going to be like. 135 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: A dotal grades. Well I get that. I get it. 136 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: They're browsers and they're designed to reach in and grab 137 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: the thing they want. When you see a deer with 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: its head down on the ground, back and forth, deer 139 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: is still grazing, even though it's not designed to do it, 140 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: you know as efficients So it's it's eating something off 141 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: the ground. It's probably not a narrow leafed grass, right, 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: but there's something down there. But I guess what I'm 143 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: trying to tell you I'm kind of missing the point, 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: so I can make my own I got my own 145 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: agenda here, I guess I'd. 146 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: Say, but. 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: I've seen deer grazing two different times in the mornings, 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: and they're just covering ground, doing figure eights and all 149 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: this stuff, just in like. 150 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: There's something in a more open grassland that we don't 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: see that they're eating. Yeah, and I would assume that, 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: I know, walking in this morning, there was d on 153 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: what all the stuff that I was. 154 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: Walking I've wanted. 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: This sounds silly, so you don't ask it, but like, 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: what are the chances they're like just licking up. 157 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: I feel like they're probably eating something but it but 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: having DO on it makes it more palatable, Yeah, palatable 159 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: or preferential or whatever you know. Like, so there's there's 160 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: a chance that the reason they've got their head down 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: in the mornings is because whatever they're eating needs to 162 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: be something that has DO on it so they can 163 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: get water consumed. 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: To tell you this, Tyler Jones, if I go too 165 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: many more days without having a bucking range, I'm gonna 166 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: be stalking one of those dos with their head down. 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: You had a bucking range last night. 168 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: Well it depends on whose range. Oh you mean when 169 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: he was it was dark. 170 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 6: We are not. 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: We're not quite at the Headland Buck stage yet. I 172 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: hope never be there again. 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so uh yeah, we're from all legal only activities 174 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: here right. 175 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 176 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: Well they're always asking this, but. 177 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: There's bucks around, and I think that that's an encouraging 178 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: thing for everyone to hear. Maybe you're not seeing them 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: right now, but hopefully the information that you've teamed from 180 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: Retfresh and then also other podcasts like Marks or like 181 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: ours the Element podcast, where we share some pretty good information. Uh, 182 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: you can gain some confidence and know that, like, conditions. 183 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: Might be bad right now, but what do I do 184 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: when they are good? 185 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: How do I put myself in the best position possible 186 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: to be able to capitalize on the good weather and 187 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: the good dates that we have ahead. 188 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: So today we're. 189 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Going to talk to a couple of guys around the 190 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: country who have a pretty good idea of what's going on. 191 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Who are we talking to you, Tyler Man. 192 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: The first guy we've got up is Greg Litzinger. He's 193 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: gonna be up in the Old Jersey, Uh, the one, 194 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: the new one. You knew exactly where I was going. 195 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: We've also got our good friend Drake Lamb. He was 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: out in Iowa and has been and uh and will 197 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: be and uh. Then we've got Adam Keith in Missouri 198 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: and Steven Crawford has been into not in the up 199 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: but see it all sounds like it's like all the 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: up to me, you know what I mean, Like that 201 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: is a foreign country up the Uh he's in Michigan. 202 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: So he's got a report for us there. 203 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: Awesome, let's hear what they have to say. I got 204 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: my buddy Greg Litzinger on here. He's both hunting fiend 205 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: on Instagram. If you don't follow him, he does some 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: really cool stuff up on the eastern coast. You've been 207 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: hunting Jersey a little bit New Jersey, as they say, 208 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: right man, what's going on up there? 209 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: Uh? 210 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 6: You know it's we had a fantastic cold October until now, 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 6: so it was pretty nice. 212 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: A lot of deer. 213 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: We're moving on a regular basis, and now it's kind 214 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 6: of warmed up. And this week usually as a hot, 215 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 6: hot week, but the bucks are definitely moving less from 216 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 6: my sightings and from I pulled a couple of camera 217 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 6: cars the other day and yesterday actually so there, you know, 218 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 6: but it was a great October, so I can't complain. 219 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: That's cool? Are you? 220 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: You know? 221 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: In this hot weather like this? I know you kind 222 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: of hunt two different terrains. Do you spend more time 223 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: in the marsh and more time in the mountains. Whenever 224 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: it's hot like this, I. 225 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 6: Usually gravitate towards water. So if I can find like 226 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 6: a you know, a stream in the mountains, I don't 227 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 6: mind hunting them, you know. Yeah, it helps with your 228 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 6: thermals and noise and all the other stuff too. 229 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: How do you pinport it? 230 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: You know, a stream is a big strung out thing, 231 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: of course, how do you pinpoint a spot on a 232 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: stream that she knows? 233 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: A gets spot to hunt deer? 234 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 6: Usually in the mountains, because where it's passable, where the 235 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: deer can actually cross without doing too much work, because 236 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 6: they're inherently lazy like us, you know, how to feel 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: you so. 238 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: They can cross easy. 239 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 6: They will, you know, find a shallow spot, you know, 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 6: or a spot where they can you know, it's not 241 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 6: as dangerous or treacherous. 242 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: If you will. Greg, what's the acorn cross? Looking? Lack up? There? 243 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: Not a lot of reds. They were on Reds. 244 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 6: In September, Reds dropped hard early, which was you. 245 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: Know, and the white beIN kind of eh. 246 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 6: But the Reds man they were having they've been hamming. 247 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 6: They're still hammering Reds. The Reds seemed to be at 248 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 6: least from where I've been hunting, Reds are definitely the 249 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 6: ticket Reds and permees. Okay, crap ton of percents here 250 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: like I've never seen. It's been a long time since 251 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 6: I've seen this many percentmons. 252 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Is there a way to target the the you know, 253 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: when you have so many percimmons, how do you target 254 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: the right percymetry? 255 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 6: That is uh, that is a million dollar question right there. 256 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: I was, I was a glass in this field. 257 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 6: It was like beans had no acorns, so there's a 258 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 6: lot of percimmons and they were hitting the beans and 259 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 6: I'm watching them, you know, I was like, I'm gonna 260 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: sit for me three yards away and watch them. One 261 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: day they'd come out for the beans. Next day they 262 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 6: come out where the persimmons were. So it was like 263 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: and I made a move, and of course, you know 264 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 6: it was a wrong move. 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: I sat to the persimmons. 266 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 6: They came out the beans, and then we did that 267 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 6: for two or three days, and then the bucks had 268 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 6: enough of that and they're like, yeah, something's not right, 269 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: and that was they've completely vacated the area. 270 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: I know, the central part of the country's supposed to 271 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: get some decent weather here that's weekend. 272 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: Are y'all going to get that? Or is that East 273 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: Coach is going to keep you warm? 274 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 6: We're going to get I mean a temperature spike is 275 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 6: going to drop like ten degrees. I don't I don't 276 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: necessarily call that a cold front. That's more of a 277 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 6: temperature drop than a cold in my opinion, but it's 278 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 6: I mean, right now it's eighty five degrees. It's hot, 279 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: so you know, I'll take six out. You know, I 280 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 6: think it's going down to like sixty seven or sixty 281 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 6: five on Friday. 282 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: So I mean, they're that's a twenty degree spike. 283 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 6: You're definitely gonna get some deer movement, especially the time year. 284 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 285 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You're gonna hunt mornings on that too. 286 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna try to. 287 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 6: It's sometimes it's hard getting out of bed. 288 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: You'll know, It's like, man, I was on the evening, you. 289 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 6: Know, it's like I got I got a little start 290 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 6: time in my hands. I can I don't need I 291 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 6: had the ability to hunt, you know right now because 292 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 6: of my injury, you know, yeah, I can hunt mornings 293 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 6: or evening. So lately literally I've just been lazy someone 294 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 6: hunting the evenings. 295 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: Okay, So really related to the injury thing. 296 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: I follow your chronicle there on Instagram, right of like 297 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: what you've been dealing with, and it's, yeah, I appreciate 298 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: how tough you are, man, But so one of the 299 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: things is that you're probably having to focus on even 300 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: getting closer to deer than ever before. Right, So maybe 301 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: that's the thing that everyone actually wants to do. Right, So, 302 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: when we're looking at what's going on in the country 303 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: with it being super hot like this, and and you know, 304 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: as we're getting closer to the rut and everything, how 305 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: are you making sure that you're like on the money 306 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: with where your setups are. 307 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 6: I was talk to my buddy about this yesterday. This 308 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 6: season would like set my injury and like I've done 309 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: more scouting than hunting because of my limitations, Like some 310 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: of my spots I need to shoot distance. So now 311 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 6: I've had to you know, hunting is this season has 312 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 6: been fun, Like I'm more scouting currently than hunting. But 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 6: it's fun. There's no expectations, you know, I'm not expected 314 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: to you know, do too much, so I get to 315 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 6: just almost be like a kid again. 316 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: It's all new. 317 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: Like I get closed, I sit in the ground, and 318 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 6: I made you know, I mean, first three dar I shot, 319 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: I completely missed. I can tell you, like, uh, the 320 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: last couple of years, I haven't had many opportunities at 321 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 6: deer in general, you know, but this year is like, 322 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 6: all right, well, expectations are kind of low. I have limitations, 323 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: so I'm just going to have fun with it. And 324 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: I seem to be putting myself in better positions because 325 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 6: I'm not expecting much. 326 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 4: So maybe I'm just reading in. 327 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: The woods differently, or this is you're trusting my instincts more. 328 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: But it's like, hey, I'm. 329 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 7: Gonna go out here and stay here and fall. 330 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: It's a hot sign to sit in a bucket, you know, 331 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: and Laurie, I'd have a bucket, and like I'm saying, deer, 332 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 6: I'm like, man, this is amazing, Like this is like 333 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: a you know, outside of an injury, Like I can't 334 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 6: complain because I've seen more deer and more good sized 335 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: bucks than I have in a long time. That's cool, man, 336 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 6: of said my expectations, and I'm kind of just just 337 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: hunting for me, I guess, I guess that is that 338 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: even a thing to say. Bro, I just get to 339 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 6: go out there and have fun. It is what it is, 340 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: you know. And I got twenty yards. Hey, I've seen 341 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 6: a hammer bucket forty yards. I'll tickle to death. I 342 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 6: could have killed him if I had a good hand, 343 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: but I was like, hey, I've seen him, like what 344 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 6: I thought was gonna happen work no cameras. Was kind 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: of just like, hey, this is this is exciting. 346 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: That's cool man, Yeah, it's cool. And you put the 347 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: pieces together like that. 348 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: So thinking about the you know that temperature drop that 349 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: you got coming up here in the dates that are 350 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: pushing on closer to the rut. What do you give 351 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: what you think the buck movement will be like in 352 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: daylight on a scale of one to ten for the 353 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: next week. 354 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 6: Next week, I'm gonna give it a six or seven. 355 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 6: I think if you hold tight to betting, dough betting 356 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 6: and buck betting and work those scrape lines, I think 357 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 6: you're going to have a chance. 358 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: At a deer man that's that's encouraging. I think that's 359 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: good advice. Those are good spots to be this time 360 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: of year. 361 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: Greg. 362 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: I appreciate your resilience, man. I hope you stay after it. 363 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: Don't let that injury get you down too much. Have 364 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: a great season, guys, you too. All right, we're talking 365 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: to Drake Lamb. Drake have known you for a few years. 366 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: You're probably one of the more well known camera operators 367 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: in this entire industry. You've killed some giant deer. You 368 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: know what's going on in the woods pretty much all 369 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: the time, it seems like. So you've been in Iowa recently, 370 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: what's the what if things been like what I mean, 371 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: tell me the rut is happening, man, I would love 372 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: to tell you the rut has happened, the deer moving. 373 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 8: But here in the home state, man, it's been rough 374 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 8: the past I mean two weeks, the entire October. Really, 375 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 8: we've had one really good cold front there on the 376 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 8: about the fifteenth of October they came through and outside 377 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 8: of that, man, it's been seventies pushing eighty degrees, you know. 378 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: South winds. 379 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 8: Just I mean, you boys, like I said earlier, you 380 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 8: boys know all about the heat, but it's been it's 381 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 8: not been good. So a lot of the deer been 382 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 8: pounding green sources, more clover. 383 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: Than turn ups, it seems. 384 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 8: Water sources have been huge obviously with uh it's been 385 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 8: super dry here. I think we just got a tenth 386 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 8: this morning and maybe have a four tense coming on Thursday. 387 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 8: But outside of that, we've got one rain since we've 388 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 8: planted food putts on August first. 389 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's across the country, isn't it. Yeah, it's 390 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: been brutal up here. 391 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 5: You know. 392 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 8: I think we're four or five inches you know, behind 393 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 8: schedule here and no, I mean we've had reports of 394 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 8: EHD up here, but not like real bad outbreaks like 395 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 8: we've had, you know, in the past in twenty eighteen, nineteen, 396 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 8: and twenty twelve. So it's you know, luckily we've gotten 397 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 8: through that. It rained all summer long, so it was 398 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 8: it was pretty good and then obviously it's just shutting 399 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 8: off since then. 400 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: So what's what's the status of the harvest right now? 401 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Are they are they? Do they have most of the 402 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: corn out? Is most of it in? What is it 403 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: looking like a. 404 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 8: Lot of the corn is stealing where we're at we're 405 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 8: here south Central, a lot of the beans last the 406 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 8: last bean fields of late planted beans fields they're getting 407 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 8: out right now, and so now they're switching on the corn. 408 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: So that's another thing that. 409 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 8: We that we that really we really key in on 410 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 8: up here is you know, when the corn gets out, 411 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 8: that changes up a lot of things. So you know, 412 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 8: right now the bucks are shifting around pre rut stuff. 413 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 8: We're starting to get a lot of new bucks and 414 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 8: a lot of bucks that we've had, you know, in 415 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 8: the past that not necessarily don't summer on us that 416 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 8: show up, you know for the rut in late seasons. 417 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 8: A lot of those bucks are starting to show up 418 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 8: right now. But it's still been you know, middle of 419 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 8: the night hour, after dark. Have have a couple of 420 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 8: mature bucks moving, you know, right before right at sunrise 421 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 8: in the morning, so you know, obviously it's cooler then 422 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 8: and heading back to bed. 423 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been it's been. 424 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 8: Rough waiting on a lot of the corner to get out. 425 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 8: I'd say, you know, I'd say we're over fifty percent 426 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 8: for sure. 427 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 7: So with feed they've gotten on it. 428 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: So on those water sources you're talking about, since it's 429 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: real dry, uh, what time of day do you expect 430 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: do you to come in there? 431 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: Is that a morning thing or an evening thing? 432 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 8: Man, it's been an evening thing. Like right when they 433 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 8: get up out of the bed, it seems like they're 434 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 8: they're hitting the water and then they're going, you know, 435 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 8: out going out to feed. We've we've been gotten a 436 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 8: lot of public land and I've got some permission through 437 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 8: some private to get into some public And I watched 438 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 8: four or five bucks the other day. Nothing mature, a 439 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 8: couple of three year olds and younger bucks, but they 440 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 8: all they all got up out of their bed, march 441 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 8: right to the water, and then right back out to 442 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 8: the cornfield and fed, you know, basically the whole night. 443 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 8: So I think that's you know, that's probably looking forward 444 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 8: to the next week or so. I mean, it's not 445 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 8: going to be anything you want, you know, sixty eight 446 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 8: seventy eight seventy six, little cold front there, if you 447 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 8: want to call it, the cold front on the thirtieth 448 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 8: and thirty first down to sixty one degrees, all right, 449 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It's like it's not ideal 450 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: by any means, but you know, the deer is still 451 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 8: going to do it. You know, the dose are still 452 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 8: going to come into coming to heat and you know, 453 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 8: so they'll they'll still be doing it. But I see 454 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 8: a bunch of south and southwest winds, which you know 455 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 8: predominantly you know, November right this time. You know a 456 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 8: lot of your stuff set up for northwest winds. So 457 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: I might have to look ahead and kind of kind 458 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 8: of change some things up to that. 459 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: But gotcha. So, uh, I need you to I need 460 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: you to inspire me for a second here because you 461 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: haven't done that yet. But really listen, the October has 462 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: been almost an entire month of low like for a 463 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: lot of people, is this does this set us up 464 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: to have just a breakout November? 465 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: Man? I hope. 466 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 8: So last year was really good and this year, like 467 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 8: I said, I mean, it gets down into the fifties, 468 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 8: you know, the first part of November. So as far 469 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 8: as highest, I mean, I think we'll still we'll still 470 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 8: be We'll still be rolling. 471 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: Gotcha. 472 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 8: So with the said I hadn't clearly picked up now, 473 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 8: so I'm hoping you know, I'm break at some point. 474 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: Sure, hopefully so? Man. So with the warm temps the 475 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 4: next week or so, uh on a scale of one 476 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: to ten. What do you think the Bucks movement is 477 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: going to be like. 478 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 8: Man, I'll still go with with the seven man. I mean, 479 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 8: I can't give it any higher than that. Just I 480 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 8: see seventy eight, seventy six, you know, sixty eight. 481 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: But I mean it's it's it's getting to beat go time. 482 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: They're starting to hit the grades. Daylight activity is going to. 483 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 8: Start picking up here at the end of the you know, 484 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 8: the next week or two. So I mean, it's a 485 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 8: good it's a good if you got a Buck on 486 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 8: a pattern. Man, it's still a dang good time to 487 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 8: be injury. 488 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, seven in the Midwest is a pretty 489 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: good thing, I think, so we'll take it. Drake, thanks 490 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: for hopping on the phone with us, man, and I 491 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: hope the rest of your season goes well. And I 492 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: can't wait to see a bunch of Bucks in November 493 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: going down on your Instagram feed. Man, Man, I hope 494 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 495 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: Fellas. 496 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm talking to Adam Keith from Landing Legacy. This is 497 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: one of my favorite brothers in the industry. Man, I 498 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: appreciate your friendship Adam, and I appreciate especially for this podcast, 499 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: your advice and your thoughts going forward on Deer. How's 500 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: everything going? Man? 501 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I appreciate it. It's always good to talk to 502 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: you guys. I don't know if I'm going to be 503 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: much motivation on this week because it is h Oh, 504 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 5: it's getting pretty crunchy up here in southern Midwest. 505 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's and that's not a it's not an 506 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: uncommon motif throughout this this week's podcast. That's okay, But 507 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: you know, what have you been seeing? I'm guessing when 508 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 4: you say crunchy, there's not a whole lot of rainfall happening. 509 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 7: No, it hadn't rained in almost thirty days. 510 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: And uh, it's been unseasonably hot, and there's been some wind, 511 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 5: so all the conditions to dry things out, and so 512 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: it's been a In fact, sometime in September, we shifted 513 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: a lot of our cameras away from water holes to 514 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 5: put them on mock scrapes, and we are shifting them 515 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: back because we're noticing a lot of activity is happening 516 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: around our water holes. Wow. 517 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because we're we're Casey and I are 518 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: in a hunt right now, and we have seen scrapes 519 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: this time of year in this area and are just 520 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: not I haven't even seen a scrape yet. 521 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: I looked around hard today for him. 522 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just they're just not here. It's the same 523 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: conditions here we've in Texas. We've been so dry and 524 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: so hot, and we had one little cool spell in 525 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: early October and it's just not not that way the 526 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: rest of the month. You guys seen a lot of 527 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: lull in the action because of these conditions. 528 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 5: Yes, correct, I think a lot of times people I'm 529 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: not one of those October lowll believers. 530 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 7: I'm not one of those guys. 531 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: It's like, oh October loll sometimes stop hunting. It's it's 532 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 5: kind of just one of those that those odd the conditions. 533 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: And yes, there is a lull this year because of 534 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 5: the heat and the dryness that we have. If if 535 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: I am hunting, you know, I still have a lot 536 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 5: of good big deer that I'm getting on camera, but. 537 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: They're at night. 538 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 5: Or in the morning, and I'm not a you know, 539 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I tend to shift where I don't tell a lot 540 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 5: of people to hunt the mornings in early season, but 541 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 5: I do tell them. I used to say don't hunt mornings, 542 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: and now I say hunt mornings. If it if that's 543 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: what it takes. 544 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: To kill them. 545 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you. Casey kind of has mentioned that to 546 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: me in the past past couple of years, and I'm 547 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: becoming more of a believer in that, especially in this 548 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: hot early season stuff. You know, what kind of what 549 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: kind of food sources are you looking at right now 550 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: that are that are going to be something you could 551 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: take advantage of. 552 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: It's acrons, and it's it's acrons for sure where I'm at. 553 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: And then because it is so dry, if you have 554 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: bottom fields that are getting heavy dues that are in 555 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: young tender green vegetation Sebraska's or rape seed, or even 556 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 5: your cereal greens like wheat and uh tree to kaylee 557 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: or cereal rye or oats, if you have those and 558 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 5: they're still getting heavy dews to where they're palatable, they're 559 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: very they're very uh wet and still actively growing, then 560 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 5: those can be great food sources. But if they're ridge 561 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: top and they've been driver for a while, they're starting 562 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 5: to kind of get a little waxy, and I'm not 563 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 5: seeing as much activity on those plots. 564 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 3: So let's think about the morning hunts. 565 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 2: Then you know, if that's the time that you can 566 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: capitalize on some cool weather and maybe see deer on 567 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: their feet. Maybe you do have a bottom that it 568 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: does have a decent food plot in it. 569 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: Wind's going to be a really difficult thing in that. 570 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: How do you how do you overcome you know, kind 571 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: of those still cool mornings whenever the wind's doing whatever. 572 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still I'm using that as a kind 573 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: of a in the. 574 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 7: Back of my head, that's the food source. 575 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 5: I'm still basing my strategy around bedding. I definitely know 576 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: they're going to be tucking into bed a lot earlier. 577 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: They might not be loafing around mid morning, going kind 578 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: of late getting to the bedroom. So what I'm doing is, Okay, 579 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 5: if i have let's say, sell cameras on one of 580 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: my bottom field food plots are on an oak ridge, 581 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: then I've got a buck that's actively using it. If 582 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 5: he's there at five in the morning and still two 583 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 5: hours before daylight, I know he's getting closer to bed. 584 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: And so if I can locate those betting areas and 585 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: getting close to those at daybreak, then I feel. 586 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Like I've got a shot. 587 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: But if I've got a buck on camera that is 588 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: moving around and I'm not really getting my pictures, my 589 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 5: last few pictures I'm getting at one am. I'm trying 590 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: to scale way out on the area and say, Okay, 591 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: he's been somewhere far from where this picture was taken. 592 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 5: And if I don't know where that's at, that deer 593 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: is unhuntable to me right now, Yeah, makes sense. 594 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: So with all that in mind, I'm bracing for a 595 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: difficult number here, right And that's fine. 596 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: I think it's good to be honest with people. 597 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, what do you 598 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: think the buck movement's going to be like in the 599 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: daylight in Missouri in the next week. 600 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 5: As of right now, for the next four days, I'm 601 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 5: going to say it's a three. It's not looking good. 602 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: I mean, guys, this is this is prime October lowl. 603 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 5: If you were to look it up and we could 604 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 5: actually define it. 605 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 7: It's right now. 606 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: It's it's hot, it's dry, they're wearing winter coats, and 607 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 5: food sources are everywhere with the acorns dropping. Now you 608 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 5: asked me for Saturday, and we've got a cool front. 609 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 7: Coming and a possible light rain. 610 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: Not much. 611 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: It's not even going to be enough to settle the dust, 612 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: but it's dropping ten degrees and the lows in the 613 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: high thirties, I'd say that's at least a six midwest six. Well, 614 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 5: they're just kind of barametric pressure in my head. 615 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 9: Oh, barimetric pressure gets today, let's go all right, but 616 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 9: no tell me more. Please, barometric pressure gets as high 617 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 9: as they're saying, I feel like we'll have a. 618 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: Chance and I'll be in the stand on Saturday. Okay, 619 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: bonus part of this year. 620 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: In your best thirty second explanation, can you explain barometric 621 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: pressure in what high and low means? 622 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: Okay, So, if it's over thirty point two, it's generally high. 623 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 7: It's in the range. 624 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 5: I like, if it's thirty point four and thirty point five, 625 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 5: which I saw two weeks ago, I'm very interested. 626 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 7: If it's if it's. 627 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: Twenty nine, I'm not really paying attention to it now. 628 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 7: I always say weather overrides everything. 629 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: So if the weather drops fifteen degrees below what it 630 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: was the day before, I don't care what the barometric 631 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: pressure is. 632 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: I know the. 633 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 7: Weather's okay. 634 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: But if I can get all the stars to align, 635 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 5: which is great weather high pressure, I'm gonna go into. 636 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 7: More voodoo for you. 637 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: But if the moon is at the right rising and falling, 638 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 5: and I put all that with the time of Yeah, 639 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: I feel like that's the four star just perfect scenario. 640 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: Better get in the stand, boy. 641 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: If we keep talking to you, we're gonna get out 642 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 2: two pieces of wire and hold them in our hands. Adam, 643 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man. I think that I trust you 644 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: because I know you know what you're talking about. 645 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: I hope Saturday's awesome for you, dude. Thank you. Yeah, 646 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 647 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: Guys, this is. 648 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: My friend Stephen Crawford. 649 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: He's got a podcast called Red Letters and White Tails 650 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: I was blessed to be on at one point in time. Steven, 651 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: you've been hunting to Michigan and you're driving around looking 652 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: at the country. 653 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: What's going on, dude? 654 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 655 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 10: Man, Hi, thanks for having me on. Casey and Tyler 656 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 10: really appreciate it. 657 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. 658 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 10: I'm happy to be in my truck today because it's 659 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 10: really hot out from midwestern Michigan or in late October. 660 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 7: But we have some really exciting weather. 661 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 10: I think starting like in twenty four hours, So really 662 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 10: excited for this. 663 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: That soon. 664 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: That's cool. 665 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 3: So right now, what's the temperature right now? 666 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 7: Seventy six degrees Okay, and what's about twenty is higher 667 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 7: than the high last week. 668 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: Wow, So I bet you that's like a double factor. 669 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: Not only is it hot, but the deer got used 670 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: to some cool weather and then all of a sudden 671 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: they're hit with something really hot and it's double put 672 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: down right now. 673 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're you know, they're moving at and we got 674 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 7: hit with a huge full moon like everybody else. 675 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 10: So like the past five or six days, there's been 676 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 10: nothing but nocturnal pictures. But uh, they're starting to hit 677 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 10: scrapes really hard, even if even if it is at night. 678 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 7: I know that with this cold front, you know around 679 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 7: the corner. 680 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 10: That the time movement is going to pick up. 681 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So let's talk about that cold front. 682 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: What what do you usually define as the cold front? 683 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: And you know, as far as like what are you 684 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: looking for and temperature drop and then what do you 685 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: kind of shift to your what you're gonna do for 686 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: like this one that's coming up. 687 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, So for a cold front, at least here in 688 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 10: Michigan Midwest in general, once we get in the late 689 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 10: eut October, I'm looking for at least a fifteen degree 690 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 10: dip in the high So like Today it's I think 691 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 10: the highest seventy eight or seventy nine degrees, and tomorrow 692 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 10: I believe the highest sixty two. And by this weekend 693 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 10: it's here to stay for like five or six days. 694 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 10: And this weekend I think the highs are in the 695 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 10: mid fifties with lows in the high twenties, low thirties. 696 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 7: So this is like scrape week for me. 697 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 10: I honestly enjoy this week more than the first week 698 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 10: in November here in Michigan. 699 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 7: Bucks are going to be hitting scrapes. 700 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 10: My buddy actually just sent me a picture of a 701 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 10: buck bedded and a scrape, so bucks even yeah, so, 702 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 10: even though bucks are hitting scrapes maternally with this heat 703 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 10: right now, I really think this coldfront is going to 704 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 10: have them up on their feet. And then, you know, 705 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 10: this first cold front, I think we're going to see our. 706 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 7: First little few dos come in. 707 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 10: And that's the most exciting time for me because when 708 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 10: there's only a couple of them running around that are 709 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 10: in heat, those bucks, like the bucks. 710 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 7: Are kind of going crazy. 711 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 10: I've had way more luck with seeing mature bucks on 712 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 10: their feet here in Michigan in late October versus early November. 713 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 10: Pretty consistently year in and year out. 714 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: So how you finding the scrapes that are going to 715 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 4: show daylight? First? 716 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 10: I'm looking, so I'm kind of I'm not totally avoiding 717 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 10: the field edge scrapes, but for the most part, I'm 718 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 10: walking past them, and I'm looking for more community based 719 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 10: scrapes that are within one hundred yards of a betting area, 720 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 10: specifically a doe betting area. So I from I have 721 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 10: prior knowledge in public land around me, and then I 722 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 10: have a few private pieces I'm lucky enough to have 723 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 10: permission on. And really I'm not I'm not too concerned 724 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 10: with the field edge scrapes. 725 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: But if you show me a that's getting consistently hit within. 726 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 10: One hundred yards of a wedding area and some sort 727 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 10: of cover, I think this last ten days of October, 728 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 10: especially coupled with a cold front, to me, is one 729 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 10: of the. 730 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 7: The best reasons to be in the woods. You know, 731 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 7: chances are higher than they are any other time year 732 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 7: to shoot the mature buck. 733 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 4: So would you rather hunt a scrape or hunt a 734 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: pinch point if those first few do's are coming in. 735 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 7: I guess it depends what I'm seeing and hearing. 736 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 10: I think the last Like like these next few days, 737 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 10: with this cold front coming in, I'm probably gonna be 738 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 10: hunting over a scrape. But then as it gets inches 739 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 10: closer to Halloween, then I'm probably getting more focused on 740 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 10: the pinch points. So, just with the history that my 741 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 10: personal history, I'd say up until October t twenty seventh, 742 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 10: twenty eighth, I'm hunting scrapes pretty hard. But then once 743 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 10: I see a lot of bucks on their feet, maybe 744 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 10: some trip, maybe a little bit more of aggressive chasing 745 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 10: come that Halloween time period, I'm more on a pinch point. 746 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 747 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: So, so on a scale of one to ten, what 748 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 4: do you think buck movement's gonna be like in the 749 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: next week. 750 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 7: Honestly, I think it's gonna be like a seven to 751 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 7: eight as good as it gets in late October here 752 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 7: in the Midwest. 753 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 10: I don't know what the weather's looking like elsewhere, but 754 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 10: here in Michigan, this cold front we're gonna have between tomorrow, 755 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 10: which is the twenty third of October, and like the 756 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 10: twenty ninth, I think it's just gonna be money. 757 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 6: Man. 758 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 10: I'm seeing buck movement at night, and I know it's 759 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 10: gonna shift a daily. 760 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: I know. 761 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 7: The only reason, right now is the heat and the moon. 762 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 10: I know, with this cold front coming in, it's gonna really, 763 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 10: it's really gonna kick him intear and daye. 764 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate the optimistic report and I believe what 765 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: you're saying. 766 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 3: Dude, It's gonna be a good weekend in Michigan. Thanks 767 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: for the report, man. 768 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks Casey, Thanks Allen. 769 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: If you are a person who enjoys Reugh Fresh Radio 770 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: and you in fact got something from our interview last 771 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: week with our good friend Jake Hofer, we did a 772 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 2: long format podcast on the Element podcast. We did a 773 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: deep dive into his trail camera strategy and data organization 774 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: and then putting that data into action with his hunting plan. 775 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 3: He's really good at that. 776 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 4: Go listen to that if you have it before, put 777 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 4: a link in the bio down there for that. You 778 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: know who else is really good at putting a plan 779 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 4: in action. 780 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: And not telling you how or why. 781 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 4: Mister Greg. Mister Greg. We've got a guy named Greg 782 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 4: Latham that has run camera for us for the last 783 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: few years. In fact, his first job filming for us 784 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 4: ever was the first episode of Buck Truck. So if 785 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: you're familiar with the Buck Truck series, it's on the 786 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: media YouTube channel. Greg has helped film a lot of 787 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 4: that kind of cut his team from that kind. 788 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 3: Of filmed Mark Kenyon on buck Truck. 789 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. So if you're a Mark Kenyon fan, 790 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 4: I don't know why you would be, but I love Mark. 791 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: I said, I'm going to do that the whole season, 792 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: and here I am. Greg had an awesome encounter and 793 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: killed a really awesome deer on public land Solo backpacking 794 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: trips self filmed from the ground, from the ground the seo, 795 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 4: way back in the back country, like I think he 796 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 4: walked in like three miles or something crazy. I can't remember. 797 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: But the dude is a killing machine. He's an He's 798 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: silent but deadly, I think is what we call him. 799 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 4: But y'all go watch that. It's on our YouTube channel. 800 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 4: It's called Solo Backpack Hunting from my biggest White Tail. 801 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 4: Buck is an awesome hunt. It's on our YouTube channel, 802 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 4: the Element Hunting YouTube channel. Go check it out. 803 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: What else case I don't really have superstitions? Did you 804 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: know that? 805 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 4: I did? 806 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: But maybe not everybody does. But a lot of people 807 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: do have superstitions and other things. And our friend Tony 808 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: Peterson may not be may or may not be that 809 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: kind of guy. He has some thoughts at least about 810 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: some things, yea, and usually he's really good at putting 811 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: those things down pen to paper. And he actually wrote 812 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: an article recently about superstitions that probably won't help you 813 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: feel tags, but they can be fun. Don't check out 814 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: Tony's article on that. I bet it's pretty good. I 815 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 2: read the first half of it here and it's pretty entertaining. 816 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: He is man, and he does a pretty good job 817 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: with uh. I would say exuding or extracting, that's the 818 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: wrong word. Extracting the things that you might breeze over 819 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: in your hunting season, you know, like he's he's he's 820 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: thinking about stuff a lot. So go read that article 821 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 2: if you haven't. On Wired to hunt dot com, all 822 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: that stuff will be linked below in the description guys, 823 00:38:47,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: appreciate y'all listening. This has been rough, fresh, Keep it fresh.