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Speaker 1: Jarry Evans, New Orleans Saints, Saints Hall of Famer, Saints

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Speaker 1: ringerv Honor, Philly's Finest And this is the NFL Players

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Speaker 1: Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peter Tuman, and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 3: And with me as always is my guy Roman Harper.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Tell too?

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Speaker 3: I guessed this. I love this guest. This is my brother.

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Speaker 2: If it's your brother, y'all got a lot more than

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Speaker 2: common than what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: So I want you to intro this brother.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Number one, he is my frat brother, Omegasi five Frattorney Incorporated.

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Speaker 3: But outside of that, he's also a guard.

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Speaker 2: Played twelve years in the NFL with the Saints and

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Speaker 2: for the Packers for a year. He is a six

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Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler, five time All Pro Super Bowl Champion

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Speaker 2: super Bowl forty four to be exact. With the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Saints, he is a member of the twenty tens

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Speaker 2: NFL A Decade Team. He's also one of only eight

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Speaker 2: members in the Saints Ring of Honor that he was

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Speaker 2: just inducted into this past year, and he's now an

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Speaker 2: offensive assistant with the New Orleans Saints and constantly your

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Speaker 2: favorite businessman. Man, this is number seventy three Jari Evans. Yes, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the pot. Hey, I'm here. He is PA's

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Speaker 2: finest Pas. Yes, yes, look man, everybody. If you guys

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Speaker 2: don't know, Jarry was selected in the same draft class

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Speaker 2: as me two thousand and six New Orleans Saints Draft class.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, what I want to talk about, JAHI

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Speaker 2: is that, And I want to let all the listeners

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Speaker 2: and viewers know. All right, we're two days away, all right,

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Speaker 2: when we're recording this, we're two days away from this year,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, right, Hall of Fame class will be announced,

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Speaker 2: and Jari is a finalist for that.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: This is his second time being a finalist and it's

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Speaker 2: three years of eligibility.

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Speaker 3: So congratulations to that. So how does it feel to

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Speaker 3: get that call?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like, man, like, what what is that? Like? How does

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Speaker 3: it even work? Though? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Just walk me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I want to know.

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Speaker 1: When I found out I was a finalist, they did

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Speaker 1: reach out and my agent reached out and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: you wanted a finalists. Obviously, it doesn't leave the room

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Speaker 1: and they try to wait till everybody till they put

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Speaker 1: it out to the media. Yeah. So yeah, he just

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Speaker 1: reached out. Drel hit me up and say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know you made the finalist. One more step we'll see.

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Speaker 2: This is your second time being a finalist, correct, What

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Speaker 3: Because I think that's probably a different feeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. You know when you when you're

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Speaker 1: on that list, and that list is large, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: they got to knock it down a few times, and

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Speaker 1: every time they knock it down, it's just one step closer.

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Speaker 1: You know, the smile gets bigger, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully you know, it's a celebration weekend and I

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Speaker 1: get big call saying that I wanted the finals.

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Speaker 2: So how will it feel if you get that call

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Speaker 2: this year? Because that would make you one of only

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Speaker 2: two linemen in the Saints for the Saints to be

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who the other lineman is?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, Big Willy, Okay, Big Whally Roth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be awesome, you know, and it's not about you

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Speaker 1: know if it's just about win, right, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get to this point where you're in the finalist twice.

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Speaker 1: And there's guys that been on this list for a

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Speaker 1: long time. You know, Willie Anderson's the guy that's been

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Speaker 1: on this sort of talk. I think Eric Allen's been

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Speaker 1: on this list for a long time. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: guys that have been waiting for a long time that

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Speaker 1: are deserving of it. Because when you get down this part,

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Speaker 1: just about everybody that's the finalist is really deserving of it,

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Speaker 1: to the point where they have a senior list. If

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Speaker 1: you don't get in, you go on that senior list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how long is that? What's that process for the senior.

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Speaker 1: Think it may be twenty five years. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: he's like twenty or twenty years you go on the

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Speaker 1: seniors list. Damn, there's a process, man. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: the process is great, but its process. Trust the process.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. I don't know. And I think

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Speaker 1: no more down. So the work is the work, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's already put in, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, as a former teammate, I like to give

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Speaker 2: you a little bit of your flowers since we got

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Speaker 2: you on finally, all right, they wanted to know. When

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Speaker 2: I say they, I mean the fans and Thomas. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Thomas's own producer. He says behind the camera, they would

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Speaker 2: like to know what makes Jah a good leader, and

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Speaker 2: I would always have to respond that. You know, Joh

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Speaker 2: played offensive line, so I didn't see Jarry Evans doing

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Speaker 2: a lot of talk. I think he let a lot

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Speaker 2: of his play doing the talk. Besides that practice, he'd

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Speaker 2: be like, don't come in my beat gap. Like you

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Speaker 2: can be anywhere on this field, but in my bet

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Speaker 2: gap it's like loans, you don't come over here. Wrong.

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Speaker 2: We ain't got no problem, no smoke, no smoke, but

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Speaker 2: if you come over here, you're gonna get smoked. I'm

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Speaker 2: a must show you now, I see this your best

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Speaker 2: leadership of qualities job. I didn't see it always on

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Speaker 2: the field, but I would be remorse if I didn't

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Speaker 2: tell you that I saw this offseason, that training camp

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Speaker 2: when I saw you coaching. Yeah, that was the first time.

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Speaker 2: It was like, man, dude, Jos's got it, the way

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Speaker 2: you communicate it, the way you're able to work and

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Speaker 2: talk to these guys and still be able to show.

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Speaker 3: Them what it's like to do having to.

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Speaker 2: Punch the right countersteps, the right steps, making sure your

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Speaker 2: eye's right. I sat in a room with you and

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Speaker 2: learned so much just about offensive line schematics, all those

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Speaker 2: things that I had never even heard before. But it

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Speaker 2: makes all the much more sense when you have the

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Speaker 2: right person that's leading the room, that can actually communicate

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Speaker 2: these things about where your eyes should be at when

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Speaker 2: you take that first step off the line, and you know,

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Speaker 2: actually knowing where your targets are at. So I appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: And how has that been for you as a more

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Speaker 2: of a leadership role where now you're expected to do

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Speaker 1: It's been great, man, Thanks for that. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I remember you sitting in he was like sitting in

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Speaker 1: the old line room. Learned a lot, like taking your notes,

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Speaker 1: you know, just for everybody that know. Roman blitzed a

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Speaker 1: lot and I told him he just don't just don't

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Speaker 1: be trying to blister this b gap. Put these head

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Speaker 1: and shoulders on you. And I'm not talking about shampoo,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying so, but but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: just I was always a student of the game. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've had some great teachers, Doug Maroon o line coach,

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Speaker 1: Zach Goodie, Carl Bush. We all kind of shared different

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Speaker 1: techniques and things that helped each other be the players

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Speaker 1: we had it they Jeff Faine earlier in my career,

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Speaker 1: Jamarinett's bit when I was a rookie start, and so,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just take those things that that I

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Speaker 1: learned on the field, how I break down film, how

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Speaker 1: I watched film. Like I went to Division two, we

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Speaker 1: didn't really watch film and college, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I learned a lot of these traits and how

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Speaker 1: to study and how to prepare as a pro. Once

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Speaker 1: I got to the NFL, and I just never stopped learning.

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Speaker 1: I always tried to add things to my game and

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Speaker 1: be on top of the game, because you guys know

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Speaker 1: in this league, the last in this league, you always

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Speaker 1: got to grow. You got to grow as a player.

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Speaker 1: Things are changing, so you know, being able to communicate

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Speaker 1: with players in a way that they're able to get

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Speaker 1: it or you know, they're able to see it and

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Speaker 1: put it into action. It's key. It's key, and no

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Speaker 1: line is different. Right. You got five six guys you

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Speaker 1: know on the field that can be on the field

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Speaker 1: at once if he's playing jumbo tight end. But you

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Speaker 1: got ten guys in the room that are from six

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Speaker 1: 't one to six eight two ninety to three fifty

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Speaker 1: three sixty that move completely different, that have different skill sets,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And you have to make

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Speaker 1: sure that all those skill sets come together and be

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Speaker 1: one unit. So it's important to learn how to communicate

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Speaker 1: and execute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got one from both of y'all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, prior to two thousand and six and the thirteen

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Speaker 2: winning seasons. So my question of both the y'all isn't

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Speaker 2: whoever answers first, whoever answers first. What was it like

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Speaker 2: being a part of the Saints and that organization and

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Speaker 2: being a part of the rehabbing of it, you know,

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Speaker 2: like the growth and development and just how you guys

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Speaker 2: helped that franchise win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: What was that like living in this city?

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Speaker 2: I mean, once you had the city and it like

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Speaker 2: it has a totally different dynamic because the city's up,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the city's turning up. We

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Speaker 2: were I think we were all just so young. We

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Speaker 2: didn't know any better because I was after that was

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Speaker 2: after Katrina, right.

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Speaker 3: That was the first season after Katrina.

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Speaker 2: I would say Jari was the first person that came

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Speaker 1: Jarry was the.

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Speaker 2: First one, Coaston, then Colston, then Reggie got in.

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Speaker 1: Reggie was starting regardless he might not started, but he

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Speaker 2: And then I was the last one out of the

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Speaker 1: And Ninko had a Ninko. Yeah, Ninko play and.

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Speaker 3: Uh so it just go ahead, Josh trying of break

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just like the Romans said, you know,

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Speaker 1: we had that draft class. We all wind up playing

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Speaker 1: in that draft class.

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Speaker 3: It's a good draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good class, and we had to

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Speaker 1: play play right. They didn't bring back a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that were displaced in two thousand and five, they

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Speaker 1: bought in a lot of free agents, Jeff Fain and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, and we had duce leadership and some guys

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Speaker 1: on defense as well. But you know, they bought in

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Speaker 1: you know, Fujia Hollis, you know what I mean, Shanley.

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Speaker 1: They bought a lot of free agents in that year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it was just, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 1: That was really to me, that was like, whoever we

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Speaker 2: Okay, how about you, Does that ever make you weird

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this level you should be able

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Speaker 3: Or right or right.

437
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: Garles, you trained you trained it in Yeah, I just

438
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 2: I just trained it in something We've always asked everybody,

439
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,959
Speaker 2: and I know you know this, Uh, what was your

440
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 2: welcome to the NFL moment? Or were someone just like

441
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: mauled you or beat you or training camp or something

442
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 2: you had to buy something with the cafetier?

443
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 3: Was it O line dinner? Was it?

444
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, man, because we had a good

445
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: group of guys. Obviously we have everybody got the dinner,

446
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 1: they got to pay for. Absolutely, we did it right though.

447
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: We actually we actually bought a bottle of Little to

448
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: thirteen so we didn't have to buy it at the

449
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: at the store, I mean at the rest.

450
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: At the restaurant. Charge about that. I don't charge you

451
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 3: like a thousand dollars.

452
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: We had a smart shots at my at my dinner,

453
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: we just took the shots.

454
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: That was that.

455
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think it's it's crazy because our

456
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: room was was a little bit different, right, Nobody in

457
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: our room, you know, six started besides Jamal Brown who

458
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: he was drafted year before as a rookie. But I

459
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: would say training camp. I would say training camp. When

460
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: we went against the Texans, I got into a fight.

461
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: You don't even look like you fight. YEA big, nice,

462
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: big nice guy. Right when they this guy with glasses,

463
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this?

464
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: He looks like he's just a big This is a

465
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: big nice guy, big baby baby.

466
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: He came here life.

467
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: Juice. I got into a fight, man, I got into

468
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: a fight against a guy on the Texans and we

469
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: were doing one on ones old line D line, and

470
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: and he just went straight from my face mask. He

471
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: wasn't even trying to Oh he's trying. He just went

472
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: straight from my face masks right. And I remember coach

473
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: like he was like, listen, you guys won't go. Just

474
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: make sure you go, like, don't don't be tiptoe and

475
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: order right. So so he went from my face mask.

476
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm all jacked up like this trying to block him.

477
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, and old line D line, you

478
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: do two reps. So the second rep he did the

479
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: same thing came up. Wasn't he trying to beat me?

480
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: Just watch your face mat and I just I just

481
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: after he let go, I approached him and then he

482
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: mushed me. He mushed me, right, So he got the

483
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: first one off. I just let the hands flop, his

484
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 1: helmet popped off, he got a bloody lip. But I'm

485
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: on the bottom of the pile, like it is a

486
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: massive brawl. You guys know how that is. I'm on

487
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pile. This is the worst I've

488
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: never felt this in my life. I'm on the bottom

489
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: of pile and I just feel the pile getting heavier

490
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: and heavier and heavier, to the point where I'm doing

491
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: like a static push up because I can't go no further.

492
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: The ground is there, and I take a breath. At

493
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: some point it was bananas. I said, yo, I ain't

494
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: fighting no more because a fight broke out and in

495
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: the middle of this, like, I don't know if that's safe.

496
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: But his lip was busted. I was fine, My helmet

497
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: stayed on. His got knocked off, but he was mad

498
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the practice obviously, and then coaching coach

499
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: Peyton was, you know, telling his rocky stories and and

500
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: all that. So it was funny. It was funny, but

501
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: that that bottom of the power moment, my shoulder passed,

502
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: the buckles was bent. It was It was a scary

503
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 1: moment for a few seconds for me down there at

504
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: the Obama.

505
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot of weight.

506
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of weight. It's a lot of weight,

507
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: a lot of.

508
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: Weight, so who's a who's the toughest D line you

509
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: ever had to face?

510
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, I get this one a lot, all right,

511
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: So you got you got different kinds of D linemen, right.

512
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: I would say Drill McCoy was probably the best get off.

513
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: He'd be a wide for technique. He's just streaming up

514
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: the field quick fast, flip his hips. And then you

515
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: got guys like like Dominican Sue who just wants to

516
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: muscle you. He's not really flipping its hips, right, he's

517
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: not really. I'm not scared of him getting past me

518
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: with his hips. And I never really struggled against those

519
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: kind of guys. But then you got like Heloly Nada,

520
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: who's just it's just it's just a massive human. Like

521
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I remember being two minute drill before half and it's

522
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: like a minute and fifty left and we in the

523
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: dome and you know, we throw the ball. We got

524
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: drew a a ain't no drawls and ain't nothing, ain't

525
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: no screens. We just cut out thought the ball and

526
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Helodinod is in like a four eye or a five technique,

527
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: meaning like he's he's head up on the offensive tackle.

528
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: And he's about to rush the pass.

529
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: He's just about to take five hard steps as hard

530
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: as fast as you can and just try to put

531
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: me through the wall down there. Literally, And when you

532
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: watch the film, I'm taking a pass set, but my

533
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: shoulder pass, my head and shoulder pads is as low

534
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: as I'm coming off the ball like I'm running, like

535
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: we're doing a run play. It is bananas. And I

536
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: had to do that for a minute. It's twenty seconds

537
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: for the whole two minute drive, just just you know.

538
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: So guys like that are just they're just difficult tough guys.

539
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: Do you have your Henderson and your Stroud. The biggest

540
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: guy ever played against was Sam Adams and Cleveland and

541
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: those six. He was just a massive human being. They

542
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: don't they don't make them, you know, they don't really

543
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: be that size anymore. But yeah, I've had a lot

544
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: of tough battles, but Plodinada and I would say, like

545
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, Drell McCoy was, or some my long battles

546
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: that I've always had against those guys over the years.

547
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot has been said about Sean Payton's complicated

548
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: play calls, and Drew was on TV and he he's

549
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: on one of these late night shows and he recited

550
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: one of the plays. Yeah, did you really tune out

551
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: or do you listen to the whole thing or did

552
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: you just listen to your small piece like I don't

553
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: care about does?

554
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: He posts?

555
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's funny because I see this, I know

556
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Cliff you talk about and they've always been talking about it.

557
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: So you have to listen to the whole play, right

558
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: because what comes that the end of the play the snapcount.

559
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: So it's not like if you missed the snapcount, then

560
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: you know you're not getting off the ball. Now it's

561
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: the whole play talking to us.

562
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: No, you know what I mean.

563
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: The first play is to run play like he said.

564
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: I think it was like slash thirty six Bob or something,

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: so we know what slash thirty six Bob means. Slash

566
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: means one thing, thirty six means one thing, and Bob

567
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: is talking to everybody on the blocking scheme and then

568
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: he says kill to a pass. The protection is really

569
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: the first part of the pass, and then the rest

570
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: of it is the routes like I don't know you

571
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: to know X Spear y Lucy Spear or post or Dragon. No,

572
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: I don't need to listen to all that stuff. But

573
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: I do have to hear damn snapcount that comes after,

574
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: so I'm not completely tuning it out, but I know

575
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: it's not talking to me. Once I hear the protection,

576
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't the routes after that doesn't never really talk

577
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: to us.

578
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: So could you recite one of those complicated plays right now?

579
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Probably?

580
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he got it.

581
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you say, give me one of

582
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's old plays, not the Saints, give me, give

583
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: me one of Sewan's old school plays.

584
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: So you could say Greenwright, tight Ryde thirty four, Bob

585
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: Kill eighty two ex Harry z Posts. Why seeing on

586
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: one you know, that's two plays.

587
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: Ours was so easy? Yeah?

588
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: Like so, and I probably missed up the routes a

589
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, those are those are routes.

590
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: You know. So when I did training camp with the

591
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Saints this past offseason, I went in there with Jah

592
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: when they were like when all the players are going

593
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 2: and we're just getting like some reps. He's doing some

594
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: stuff on the computer. He's like drawing up plays and

595
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm just asking, like, so, what does this mean? And

596
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: why is this? Like this is the same run, but

597
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: this time you toss it versus your hand it off?

598
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Why is it this?

599
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: Everything was a why to me? Like I didn't it

600
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: didn't make a lot of sense. Oh well all the

601
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: runs are based upon cars or something like what. Yeah,

602
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: so this is a different type of whole different language. Yeah,

603
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: it's a totally different language than what we do on

604
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the foot, where it's like three words, man,

605
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: three or four words and then we're done, like we

606
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: don't have time.

607
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: You guys are like slide right, tokyo.

608
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. Everybody knows what that means. You

609
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean, peanut, you should you know what

610
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: tokyo means.

611
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Just cover too.

612
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy.

613
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah he knew that anyway, I didn't know that. You've

614
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: been on a lot of football teams. You won one

615
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: super Bowl?

616
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: What was so special about that two thousand and nine season,

617
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: and what what really stands out to you about that year?

618
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: That season? Whatever that was?

619
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that made that one just a little bit more

620
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: different than all the rest of the seasons you played.

621
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: The one season that was probably the most similar to

622
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: that season was the eleven season, just because of stats

623
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: wise and how well we were rolling, how much we won.

624
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: But The biggest thing I think that stands out, you

625
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: know about the nine season is you saw a progression

626
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: of a team and not just a team of organization

627
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: to what he that was saying earlier, you know, you

628
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: saw them, you know, have a great have a draft, right,

629
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: and then have those players. And then as those players

630
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: that we started with may not stay or leave the

631
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: fold like all players do, bring in other players that's

632
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: going to fit the fold well enough to get us

633
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: over the hump that that we you know that we

634
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: have to be able to become champion. And so you know,

635
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: bringing in a guy like like Pierre and bush Rod

636
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: and and guys on defense, you know, like Tracy and

637
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: and and other guys that that just helped, you know,

638
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: mold the whole team. Bringing Mike, you know, Mike McKenzie

639
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: back on a championship team when we needed a guy

640
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: that to make plays for us because of injuries, and uh,

641
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: bringing in jv Vilma, you know what I mean. And

642
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: then seeing how Drew progressed as a as a passer,

643
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: as a communicator, you know, reading coverages, you saw that

644
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: in those three years, three or four years that propelled

645
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: us to be a championship team. And I think it.

646
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: It continued, it continued to grow. You can see you

647
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: saw things add to the playbook. Coach Payton as a

648
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: play caller, adding things to the to the playbook, adding

649
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: different schemes based off of other things that team did.

650
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: It's a chess match, right, You see me run. You

651
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: see me run this out of this formation. I'm gonna

652
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: give you the same formation, but I'm gonna run something else,

653
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: you know. So when you have success like that, I

654
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: think you become harder to stop because you just keep

655
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: scheming it up and keep adding and adding and adding,

656
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, to the system, and then you bring in

657
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the body types that can still run that system, like

658
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: bringing in the Sprolls. Yeah, you know, fits the system well,

659
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just just bringing in guys

660
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: that you know can do things well that you've seen

661
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: other guys that are kind of the same type of

662
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: guys do previously.

663
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

664
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: One of the things I enjoy about coaching is I

665
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: enjoy coaching my kids when they allow me to. I've

666
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: learned I got to I can't be intense, So when

667
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: they allow me to coach them, I get joy out

668
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: of just one the bond and the connection that we have,

669
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, father's son, daughter, you know, with your parents.

670
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: What do you get out of coaching with the Saints

671
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: right now? Like, what's that joy? How does that make

672
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: you feel?

673
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: One of the biggest joys is just having a player

674
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: come to be like, oh, man, I tried that and

675
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: that worked.

676
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

677
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Like I had a guy, you know, I played with

678
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: him with the Packers. He plays for US now, Lucas Patrick. Yeah,

679
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: Team Green Tea. You know, I told him something and

680
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: he went out and tried and he's like, man, you

681
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: know that that worked. You know, That's that's the that's

682
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: the biggest That's that's awesome for me. I'm like, I'm

683
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: surprised you didn't try that before, you know, so, Like

684
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Or just having young guys go

685
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: out there and and trust what they're being told and

686
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: go out there and try it even if they even

687
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work the first time, just continue to

688
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: work at it and try it but have success. Watching

689
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: those guys have success based off of the stuff that

690
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: you teach them during the week and the stuff that

691
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: they learned is awesome. Same thing happened to me when

692
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I was younger. I remember coach told me, he's like,

693
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: listen when uh Lufa, he was a Seattle right middle linebacker.

694
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: He was like, I think it's the name is Lufa.

695
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: When he want over here, don't miss this. You've got

696
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: the turnback on this end and hit it and hit

697
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: him to block off this backside gap from being closed.

698
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: And we're going to hit it. And I recognized it.

699
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I read, recognized it and did it and it was

700
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: forty yards, you know what I'm saying. So like being

701
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: able to coach a player on where his eyes are,

702
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: what he sees, and how he should react, and how

703
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: his footwork should be, where his hand placement should be.

704
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: They know that stuff, but just to constantly harp on

705
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: it until his second nature for them and watch them

706
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: go out there and execute and have success is very fulfilling.

707
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Where do you see or want your coaching career to

708
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: go or expand after this?

709
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people always ask you that question,

710
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: Head coach Evans, Yeah, I enjoy coaching the line, man,

711
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I really do. I think offensive line is one of

712
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: the major parts of coaching in the NFL, especially how

713
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: these young guys are being coached in college. You know, there.

714
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Some of them are a lot of them are not

715
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: prepared to come out to the NFL and throw the

716
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: ball thirty five times a game, you know, And and

717
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: these coaches want to sling the rock. So I think

718
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: there's a there's a need of o line coaching and

719
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: a technique in the league. But the one thing about

720
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: it being an old line coach is that you're in

721
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: part of every facet of the play, the run, game

722
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: and the protection, you know what I mean. So like,

723
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: if those things aren't tight, the play doesn't get started.

724
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're not ahead of the change, You're behind

725
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: the chaine. So for me right now, it's just the

726
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: old line coach. But I can see myself in the

727
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: future designing runs and possibly calling plays as well. You know,

728
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I think I'll be a run heavy play caller. But

729
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: you get you give you that general back there. You know,

730
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I throw some d balls, you know what I'm saying.

731
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: So but uh but yeah, you know, right now, I'm

732
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: just an old line coach learning learn the game, learn

733
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: the system. But it definitely starts upfront. I'm in the

734
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: room with these coaches and they're like, how are we

735
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: going to block this? How are we going to protect

736
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: this and that's important.

737
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: I think what I've learned from talking to other coaches

738
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: when they start out there, oh, I'm just a loneberger coach.

739
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: And then they get in the dB, and then they

740
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: get in the receivers, and then they get.

741
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: In the running backs. Have you started to do that now?

742
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: Like, I know you're on old line right now, but

743
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: have you have you got into I don't know, maybe

744
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: the next one is tight ends.

745
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: Or receivers or quarterbacks.

746
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: Have you have you kind of, yeah, flirted with the

747
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: other positions?

748
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. You know, we uh, during every week

749
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: we practiced with the tight ends. So I've taken the

750
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: tight ends and I've done old line tight end drills

751
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: with those guys throughout the season. It's funny you ask that.

752
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: I just interviewed the running back at the Senior Bowl.

753
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: I've never you know, interviewed the running back. So I

754
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: just interviewed the running back. Watch film with a running back,

755
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: talked about landmarks, footwork, and you know the running backs

756
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: marry the run game because you got to. You got

757
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: to be on the right track with the old line.

758
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: So so yes, I have been doing that. Also, been

759
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: drawing formations and what I would call plays how I

760
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: would call them, you know, like what like what name

761
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I would call use for them? Oh? Yeah, am I

762
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: tagging it for the fullback? Or am I tagging it

763
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: the tight end? Or if I'm putting that tag in

764
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: there for the alignment? You know. So at the end

765
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: of the run, So like right thirty six, Bob, that

766
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Bob is talking to the fullback saying that he's back

767
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: on a backer. Am I called it week lead? Or

768
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: am I just calling it week? So I've been, you know,

769
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: working things like that.

770
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I did not know that.

771
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, hold on, I gotta If you had

772
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 2: a play caller to work with, you're wishless right now,

773
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: that's past future whatever. If there was a guy or

774
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: a gap ye who you wanted to work with a

775
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: play caller.

776
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: I really don't.

777
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Who I've worked with in the past that people may

779
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: not know of. I've had two great experiences at these

780
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: last two All Star Games. So two years ago coach

781
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: at the East West Gate and Davis Webb was our

782
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: was our play caller. Mike Cafo was the head coach

783
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: in the East West game and Davis webbons with the

784
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Broncos was our play calling. He did. He did a

785
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: good job and we won that game. And then this

786
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: past weekend Joe Thomas was to play call added and

787
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: Joe called. He called his butt off man his past

788
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: game in the Senior Bowl. He did a really really

789
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: good job. So I like both of those game plans

790
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: and we wind up winning. So I'm gonna go with

791
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: those two guys, okay, And it was their first time

792
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: calling the game.

793
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 3: That's something I never thought about.

794
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the interviewing process, like are you ready to start

795
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: getting into the draft mode? Because being an NFL coach,

796
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: that's part of it, right, the whole the draft grades,

797
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: the scouting players. Those are probably some of the things

798
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: that we don't talk about enough as people that follow

799
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: the game, and how important that part, that piece of

800
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: it is because you're always looking for the next guy.

801
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: Have you thought about how that process is going to

802
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: go for you or or you already started doing some

803
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: of that stuff.

804
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: You're right, it's one of the I'm not gonna not

805
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna say the most important because you don't really do

806
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: that during the season. You know, you're coaching the guys up,

807
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: but you know Jeff Ireland told me when I took

808
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: the job, you know two years ago, you got to

809
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: dial into these evaluations. You got to dial into these evaluations.

810
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: And he's exactly right. So last draft, I mean, I

811
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: looked at thirty to forty college offensive alignment film, wrote

812
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: evaluations on all of them. So we do as coaches

813
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: scout I want to say, not say scout, but we

814
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: do watch the film and write evaluations for the ball

815
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: club to look at. So I'll be doing that this

816
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: all season also, and luckily I was just at to

817
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: see your bowl, so I got you got a good

818
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: tend evaluations of guys that I coached, and got a

819
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: chance to sit down with the old line on the

820
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: other side. So that's twenty guys that I got to

821
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: put eyes on, all.

822
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: Right, I got.

823
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: I guess My final question to you is your personal

824
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: amount Rushmore. You had to pick four influential.

825
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: People in your life. Who would those four people be?

826
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: First one would be my mother, strong woman, and uh,

827
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, raised me. I'm the youngest of four on

828
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: my mom's side. My second would be my older sister, Carmela.

829
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: She's awesome, works at City Hall, She's a vocalist, she sings,

830
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: she has a few albums out. She's awesome. And then

831
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I would say number three would be my college coach,

832
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: coach of Brian amazing guy, loves ball, taught me a

833
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: lot about ball, won a lot of games in college.

834
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: He's put three offensive linemen in the NFL two since me,

835
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: So he's a he's a great coach. Let me see

836
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: who would be number four? I would say, you know,

837
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: my grandma Ruby on my on my dad's side. You know,

838
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: she when I went to middle school, I used to

839
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: go to her house every day after school. She lived

840
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: right down the street from my middle school, which was

841
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: right behind Saint Joe's Prep, which was a big time

842
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: high school in Philly. I was supposed to go to

843
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: the prep, but I didn't go to the prep. But yeah,

844
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: I would say, my Grandmam Ruby is uh, you know,

845
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: really influential in my life. And I'll give you one more.

846
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: It's my uncle Ernie. He was He was amazing, my

847
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: mom's oldest brother. Yeah, he was amazing in what way.

848
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Loved that man at death. Uh, you know when I

849
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: was young, took me to a lot of games. When

850
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I got hurt, you know, took me to my doctor's appointments,

851
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: rehabing my knee. He was just always around the family,

852
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: and and and he made an awesome sweet potato pie, awesome,

853
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: sweeping phenomenal. But but yeah, that would be my mouth

854
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: rushmore shout out.

855
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: I like that, well, John Man. I gotta say two things.

856
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: Number One, John's one of the greatest teammates I've ever

857
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: had in my life. Somebody asked me if I had

858
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: to have one one roommate from any former teammate.

859
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I said, you, I appreciate number one.

860
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: We'd have a great time.

861
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

862
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: Number two is because of who you are genuinely as

863
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: a person.

864
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm a paul. He didn't. We wouldn't have a good time. No,

865
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: you'd be playing tricks. I wouldn't be sleep. I would

866
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: be sleep. You don't trust me to do it?

867
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't.

868
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: I would pick job and so.

869
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: And what a lot of people don't know is that

870
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Speaker 2: from about the year two thousand and nine until I

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Speaker 2: left in twenty after twenty thirteen, every pregame I prayed

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Speaker 2: and held John's hand because I wanted to have a

873
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Speaker 2: big juice baby.

874
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Speaker 3: Like y'all.

875
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: He ain't lying, he just said it all the time.

876
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: I was like yo, I want.

877
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: A big juice baby, So I'm gonna hold Jazz hand

878
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: during the pregame prayer.

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Speaker 3: We did that for about four or five years straight.

880
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Speaker 3: And so John's been my guy. Man.

881
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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you on here. And one

882
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: of the most incredible feats. I've only seen this one

883
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: time in my life. I used to have my charity

884
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: golf tournament back in Prattville and of course we ended

885
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: up at waffle House thirty three in the morning, and

886
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: I'd never seen this before.

887
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: Stacked them waffles up.

888
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Joe ordered a seven egg omelet.

889
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Seven egg omelet, real rat. I did, real rat.

890
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: And the fact that you get down and killed it.

891
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: And the fact that he ordered seven told me that

892
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: he had ordered eight and that was sixth one enough.

893
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: You know what you want, you know, and let's do

894
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Seven egg omelet.

895
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: Never this is two things. I just had never seen

896
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: that before. I just want to share that story with

897
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Speaker 3: my guy. Seven.

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Speaker 2: Love you to death, joh and uh Man, thanks for

899
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: coming out and doing this and who's spending some time

900
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Speaker 2: with us for sure.

901
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Speaker 3: Success.

902
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Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember what he said it he

903
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: was like seven, he was like, why do you what

904
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: made you pick seven? I said, bro, I just I

905
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: just know I wanted seven in them things like I did.

906
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Speaker 3: You would not let it go for like the whole weekend.

907
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, it's awesome.

908
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: Man.

909
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: You guys are you guys are amazing. I love your

910
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: your podcast. Man, you guys are doing great stuff. Man,

911
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: you guys are doing it awesome. STUF appreciate it.

912
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate it, man, Thanks for that time and

913
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: good luck. Yeah, man, put it out there. Celebration was

914
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: the last time I know. Earlier in the pod, you

915
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: said you so you wrote when you?

916
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: When you?

917
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: Lord?

918
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: Have you been writing things down since? Have you wrote

919
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: anything down since?

920
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I have?

921
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: Okay?

922
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: But to your point, I think I need to yeh right,

923
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: morey write more? Yeah, yeah, I want.

924
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: To do something right. Hey, we gotta put that in. Yeah,

925
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: we gotta speaking. We gotta put it on manifested right manifestation, Yes, sir, right, yes.

926
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: I gotta put some things and write and some more

927
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Speaker 1: things and right.

928
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The great Jarry Eva follow by listeners and viewers always

930
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: out there. Man, thank you guys for always tuning in. Man,

931
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Speaker 2: make sure you give us a five star rating.

932
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Speaker 3: Hit that review, give us a.

933
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Comment, like, subscribe, share, follow, share follow Peanuts always teach

934
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: me how to do this thing. Tell a friend to

935
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: tell a friend to do what Peanut tell a friend.

936
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Speaker 2: And make sure you watch our NFL YouTube channel. And

937
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: that's wherever you pick up your podcast, whether it's Apple podcast,

938
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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, please continue to do that and the YouTube app.

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Speaker 3: Where now is the NFL. I just said that, right,

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Speaker 3: I just yes, thank you stepping on my toes. I

941
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 3: just said that. Whatever. I appreciate, sy'all. I'm Peanut, that's Roman,

942
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Speaker 3: that's jaw.

943
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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to The NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Act podcast, We Out