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Well, the never ending New York 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:26.000 City pro Hamas protesters continued, this time, several dozen of 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:32.160 them supporting this pro Hamas Mood Khalil occupying the lobby 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.720 of Trump Tower earlier today calling for the release of 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.959 this guy who was detained over the weekend, and protesters 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.360 dressed in red holding up signs free mo Mood, Free Palestine. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.400 This was at Trump Tower, and uh, this is protesters 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.520 chanting free mo Mood. Freed them all, you know, at 0:01:52.560 --> 0:02:09.000 Trump Tower? All right, So that took place earlier today. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.960 Greg Jarrett wrote a pretty amazing analysis of all of this, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.880 how Mahmood Khalil cannot use the First Amendment as a 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.480 shield for lawlessness and he joins us now and will 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.320 lay out the legal reasons why he believes that. Why 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.799 I happen to agree with him that you can't hide 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.440 behind the First Amendment deployed as a shield for lawlessness anyway, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.160 Greg Jarrett, sir, how are you? It was also something 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.280 called intimidation. If I recall last year and his spoken 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:46.160 words of support for a terrorist organization. I believe that 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.280 Marco Rubio is writing his analysis of the law of 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.080 what are your thoughts? 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.840 Well, look, people who are non citizens do not enjoy 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:01.519 the same free speech rights that American citizens do. You know, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:07.480 so many in journalism news organizations I've been watching over 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.640 the last twenty four hours don't seem to comprehend that 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:16.200 fundamental fact. They're just not well educated. A Green card 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:22.200 holder like Khalil was granted lawful residents, but that's not 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.840 a right, it is a conditional privileging. One of the 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:31.800 conditions is he must abide by immigration laws until he 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.800 becomes a citizen. And all you have to do is 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.680 look at one of the main sections of the Immigration 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:43.760 Naturalization Act, Session two twelve, and it specifically forbids resident 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:50.200 aliens like Khalil from supporting or promoting terrorist activities, and 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:54.760 if they do that, ICE and Homeland Security can revoke 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.520 their green card and deport them from the US. The 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:03.920 First Amendment does not protect Khalil. He cannot use our 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:09.360 free speech principles as a shield for either lawlessness or 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:15.320 wrongful conduct that's prohibited by the statute I just identified. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.400 He does not even have to be officially charged with 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:23.880 a crime to be expelled. Instead, if our government determines 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:29.840 that his conduct violated immigration standards codified in law, then 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.200 it goes to an immigration judge, and that judge can 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:38.240 and should a victim. So here, ICE and DHS have determined, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.159 based on their evidence that this is a guy who 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.960 is spoused terrorist acts of Hamas promoted Hamas. They're a 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.719 designated terrorist organization by a US government, And that's one 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.840 basis for losing his green card. The other basis is, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.320 as you point out, Sean the Secretary of State, because 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.680 the law says that if a an alien's presence or 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:07.680 activities have a serious adverse foreign policy consequence for the US, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.160 he's deportable. And that's what Secretary of State Marco Rubio 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.960 has determined. He said that what Khalil and others did 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.680 is anesthetical to our foreign policy and our national security 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.400 and he should be deported. So, frankly, this should be 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.320 a slam dunk case. But what Khalil has done is 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.960 he's rushed to a different judge who has no authority 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.719 or jurisdiction, A federal district court judge, an Obama appoint 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.960 use halted everything and said, well, I want to hold 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.240 hearings on free speech in First Amendment, so we'll see 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:43.760 where it goes. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.320 Well, I mean that's a sad part of our system, right, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.200 I mean, even if you're a non citizen, you get 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.680 to use the courts. Now, all these reports about the 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.799 major role that he played in the protests against Israel 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:02.640 at Columbia University. You know, if we go back in 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.960 time and we witnessed what happened. You know, if you 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.560 recall they were setting up these encampments and they were 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:13.120 taking over buildings again lawless behavior, and then they were 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.120 also confronting Jewish students. That became an unsafe environment, and 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.200 at one point Colombia was telling Jewish students to stay 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.200 home and take remote classes, confronting people and asking them 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.520 if they were a Zionist or not before they'd even 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.520 let them walk through. So all of that happened as well. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.520 And you're right, the Department of Homeland Security, the DOJ, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.200 the State Department are investigating Khalil as a possible national 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:43.719 security threat. I would imagine that anybody that is supporting 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:48.520 and aligning themselves with a designated terrorist organization has to 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.040 fit that definition, don't they. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.080 Yeah. I think the evidence is pretty compelling here that 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.560 he was helping to organize and then he later mediated 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.920 these violent protests sick Columbia. You've described them that they 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:09.159 were hideous, disgusting acts of anti semitism, vandalism, destruction of property, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:15.240 attacks on Jewish students, and attacks on law enforcement. That's 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:21.360 not protected speech in nor is the spreading of printed 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:28.320 pro vamos propaganda flyers that glorified the murderous atrocities by 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:34.520 Hamas visited on innocent Israeli civilians. October seventh, twenty twenty three, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.440 forty six Americans, by the way, among the nearly twelve 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:44.280 hundred who were massacred. Sorry, the First Amendment doesn't protect 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.280 you for that. I you know, I think Trump has 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:53.440 taken a too prong approach arrest and deport people like Khalil, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:08:00.920 but also punish, you know, higher education institutions like Colombia. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.320 He's already yanked for four hundred million in federal funding 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:13.240 for Columbia. Why their failure to protect students and faculty. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:18.480 They were encouraging and placating these things by their own inaction. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.200 As I wrote in my columny. You know, colleges and 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:27.280 universities are supposed to offer classrooms of learning that are 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.280 safe from intimidation and threats and acts of violence. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.760 Well they don't. They have all of these anti harassment 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.800 intimidation rules for every protected class that you can ever 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.240 imagine and think of, and what they just make exception 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.160 for people that are Jewish. It's Okay, to attack them 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.080 and intimidate and harass them. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.320 The irony that you point out should be lost on 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:58.120 no one. But you know, it's all about the almighty dollar. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:04.040 In these institutions of education. The only way you can 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.320 get them to do the right thing is to withhold money. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:15.000 Only then will they act according to their obligations and duties. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.320 It'll motivate them to do the right thing to protect students. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.600 Let's get on with education. 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.960 Let me play Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, and 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.800 his comments about this issue and about this guy Khalil. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.400 When you come to the United States as a visitor, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.360 which is what a visa is, which is how this 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.800 individual entered this country as on a visitor's visa. Okay, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.280 you are here as a visitor. We can deny you 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.840 that visa. We can deny you that if you tell 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.120 us when you apply. Hi, I'm trying to get into 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.280 the United States on a student visa. I am a 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.959 big supporter of hamas a murderous, barbaric group that kidnaps children, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.520 that rapes teenage girls, that takes hostages, that allows them 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.359 to die in captivity, that returns more bodies than live hostages. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.160 If you tell us that you are in favor of 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.120 a group like this, and if you tell us when 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.760 you apply for your visa, and by the way, I 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.040 intend to come to your country as a student and 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.240 rile up all kinds of anti Jewish student, anti Semitic activities. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.920 I intend to shut down your universities. If you told 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.679 us all these things when you applied for a visa, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:13.680 we would deny your visa. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:14.480 I hope we would. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.560 If you actually end up doing that once you're in 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.960 this country on such a visa, we will revoke it. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.960 And if you end up having a green card, not citizenship, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.880 but a green card as a result of that visa 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.199 while you're here in those activities, we're going to kick 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:27.520 you out. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.120 I mean, it seems to be very straightforward and very 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:30.760 simple to me. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:31.880 It is. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.720 It is, you know, act consistent with the law. Now 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.000 under Joe Biden, he didn't care about the law. You know, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.840 he opened our border to millions of people. Aidn't care 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.480 if they were supporters of Hama. So we're going to 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.880 you know, make their way to college campuses in Recavoc 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.560 and you know, cause harm to Jewish students. He didn't 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.800 care about that. This is a president Donald Trump who 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.280 actually cares in a Secretary of State Marco Rubio who 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.880 well understands the law, and he just plainly stated it 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.480 as I did in today's column. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.560 Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how this 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.400 plays out. What do you make of these people that 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.160 are out there protesting? And I think it raises an 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.880 entire different question that nobody really wants to raise, and 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:25.960 that is I think in many ways New York Democrats 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.680 have severely let down the Jewish community in New York. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.920 I think it's going to change, and I think it's 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.680 going to change rather dramatically. Am I wrong in believing that? 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.040 No? I think you're absolutely right. Part of the problem 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:46.160 among Democrats is that they are historically illiterate. Yeah. I 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.880 was a correspondent during the Second ind of Fada, and 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.400 I was there throughout the Middle East, in Israel and 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.880 Gaza and the West Bank and so forth. If they 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.640 had seen the carnage that I saw at the hands 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.520 of some the most despicable terrorists in the world, I 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:09.600 think they would understand the constant state of siege that 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.920 the Jewish people in Israel are under, and Jewish people 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:20.280 here now in America with this really despicable anti semitism 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.840 that seems to be sweeping across college campuses. But Democrats 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.880 act as though they're utterly unbothered by any of it. Well, 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.440 the American people are bothered by it, and Democrats need 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.360 to wake up from their deep slumber and start serving 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.199 the interests of the American people and our closest ally 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.439 in the Middle East, which has long been Israel. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.840 Quick break more with Greg Jarrett on the other side, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.640 and then later we'll get to your call. Senator Rampaul 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.080 coming up, and also we will introduce you to a 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:59.480 main legislator who literally is not able to vote, has 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.480 been sent the daring to uh stand against men playing 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.920 in women's sports. We'll get to that case and more 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.600 as we continue. We continue now with Greg Jarrett, Fox 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.240 News Legal Analyst. Let me go back to the courts 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.679 for a second, because, as you rightly pointed out in 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.800 your column, and what you mentioned earlier is Leo's attorney. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.560 You know, basically, when Judge Shopping ran to a district judge, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:26.520 an Obama appoint e, who halted any deportation pending a hearing, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:31.040 and that hearing is not based on what should actually 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.839 be the merits of the case, which I find a 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:38.400 little bit frustrating. Assuming that that judge will be sympathetic, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.040 uh and and liberal and left wing and an activist, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.880 and what does that mean for the next step and 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.319 what does what does the Trump administration do next? 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.800 Well, I would like to be optimistic and think that 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.160 Judge Jesse Furman, as you point out, an Obama appointe, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.720 recognize what what what the First Amendment means and the 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.520 history of it as well as this. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.280 Why would you even for one second believe that's possible 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520 after all we've lived through all these years. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.040 I'd like to be a glass half full kind of guy. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.559 I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:20.720 he temporarily halted any deportation proceedings, and I hope that 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.760 he will be wise to the tactics here by Khalil's attorneys, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:30.200 what they're really trying to do is to wrongfully flip 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:35.760 jurisdiction from an immigration judge who has authority over Khalil 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.240 to a district court judge who doesn't. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.800 And this is what your column lays out. So simply, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:47.080 Section two twelve Immigration Nationality Act forbids aliens from supporting 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.680 or promoting a designated terrorist organization such as a mosque. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.080 If they do, their green cards can be revoked and 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.360 they can be expelled. That's not a hard provision to understand, Greg, Now. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.200 It really isn't. And you know, free speech for citizens 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:11.120 doesn't trump the immigration law for non citizens. It simply doesn't. Now, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.200 if we were talking about a citizen, you know, it's 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:19.880 a different calculation, a different equation. There are greater free 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:25.400 speech rights. But even citizens who provide material support to 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:30.600 a terrorist organization like a moss can be held criminally 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.920 responsible and action can be taken against them. That's not 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.000 what's being alleged here. This is a non citizen, different standards, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.000 no First Amendment protection. 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.080 All right, Greg Jarrett, appreciate it. 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We saw Tom Holman who went 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.720 to Albany, New York, where the state capital is in 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.240 New York, and he was getting heckled by people for 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.640 what reason, I don't know. He just wants to get 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.000 rid of you know, bartel members, gang members, potential terrorists 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.879 and the same thing in Maine. The governor is threatening 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.560 a battle with Donald Trump. Here's Donald Trump tearing into 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.880 the main governor. The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.360 that's good, but I understand Maine is the main here, 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.879 the governor of Maine. Are you not going to comply 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:40.280 with it? 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.920 Well, we are the federal law. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.000 Well you better do it. You better do it because 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.840 you're not going to get any federal funding at all 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:49.400 if you don't. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.800 And by the way, your population, even though it's liberal, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.480 although I did very well there, your population doesn't want 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.720 men playing in women's sports. So you better you better 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.800 comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. Every state. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:05.800 Good, I'll see you, and could I look forward to that. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.720 That should be a really easy one. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:09.760 And enjoy your. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.439 Life after governor, because I don't think you'll be in 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:12.520 elected politics. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.400 Now. There is a state legislator in Maine who will 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.879 join us in a second that will tell us about 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.359 these ongoing battles that she's having in a very liberal state. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.200 And her name is Laurel Libby. You might recall that 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.120 he decided to stand up and protect girls in sports. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.719 The idea that there are people that don't support this 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.399 is mind numbing to me and reminding her state what 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.080 title line was all about in the first place. And 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.240 they responded by rejecting her right to even voice her opinion. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.399 So she filed a suit against the House speaker in 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.680 Maine and the judges who are supposed to hear the case, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.280 every single one of them. I saw this yesterday. I 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.040 couldn't believe it. Every one of them accused themselves, which 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:02.480 is unprecedented. And you know all four active federal judges 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:06.480 of Maine, you know won't take the case. And anyway, 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.879 she is not going to stop this fight, and she said, 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.040 Maine's Democratic leadership has asked me to take down my 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:18.600 post exposing their failure to keep biological males out of girls' sports. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.359 My answer is simple, I will not. I will do 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.840 everything in my power to ensure our girls' voices are 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.440 heard and that their rights are respected. And I respect 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.159 her for doing it. And anyway, Laurel Libbey, state legislator 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.679 from Maine, joins us, Now, how are you? 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.960 Thanks so much for having me. I'm great and thrilled 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:38.919 to be on with you today. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.560 I make fun of a friend of mine who lives 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.560 at Maine that I grew up with. I call him 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.439 a mountain man. He's got this long beard and he 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.480 literally lives like a mountain man. He cracks me up. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.120 But it's a great state and I have a lot 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.480 of friends there, and the people are, you know, fiercely independent. 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.000 And I can't imagine that the people of Maine want 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.720 men and women's sports, and that the governor, I believe, 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.080 is way out of touch with the thinking of the 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:06.760 people of Maine. 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.000 The governor is completely out of touch with her fellow maynors. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:16.720 And you're right, manors are fiercely independent, and they don't 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:21.359 believe that biological males belong in girls' sports. And so 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.360 the governor and the Speaker fecto and the Democrat majority 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.160 are out of line with main people and pushing for 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.680 a policy that folks don't agree with in our state. 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.240 Why is the state's plant so left? When I think 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.879 of Maine, I think of maybe only second to Alaska 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.800 in terms of people that are willing to live slightly 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.240 off the grid, not completely, obviously, but people that believe 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:51.520 in rugged individualism, that are are very very committed to 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:56.920 handling a lot of life's challenges on their own. I'm 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.720 surprised because that usually doesn't sort of, you know, lend 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.239 itself to more liberal politics. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.960 I think folks don't understand that main really is a 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.200 purple state. And I'll give you the math on that. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.080 Out of one hundred and fifty one state representatives across 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.960 our entire state, we only lost the conservative majority by 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.639 sixty votes across the entire state in twenty twenty one. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:25.119 So that's how close things are. We are not a 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.320 dark blue state yet, I don't think. And yet the 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.160 Democrat majority and Governor Mills are pushing these aggressively woke 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:37.960 policies that mayners don't agree with and don't want to 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.840 see in our state. Maynors want to see biological mails 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.560 out of girl sports and see that we have a 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:51.120 safe level and fair field of competition for our girls. 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.000 Well, well, you know, as the father of a daughter 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.000 who happens to be an athlete, I totally sympathize with this. 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.680 As somebody that's interviewed Riley Gains many times, I sympathize 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.040 with what she went through. And my question is, how 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.760 is it possible, after you bring this lawsuit that you 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:11.919 have four separate judges recusing themselves and what does that 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:13.040 mean for your suit? 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:15.760 The end goal here is that we have our day 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.280 in court, and whether that is before a main judge 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.040 or it looks like a Rhode Island judge. At this point, 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.200 we're confident of the merits of our case and are 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.720 looking forward to being able to defend my First Amendment 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:31.679 rights and more importantly than that, my constituent's right to 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.960 representation in our main House of Representatives, because right now 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:42.159 they are voiceless and voteless, and that is absolutely not 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.280 something that should be able to stand in our state, 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.480 that nine thousand people would not be represented. 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.160 Okay, so how did the jurisdiction switch to Rhode Island. 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.000 All of the judges recuse themselves and put out a 0:23:55.000 --> 0:24:01.399 statement yesterday regarding a familial relationship with an employee. No 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.280 specifics there, but really. 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.480 I don't think it sounds sounds like to me like 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:08.479 they don't want to touch it. 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.720 Perhaps, but at the end of the day, I don't 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.480 think it's going to matter, because this case will be 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.040 heard on the merits. Whether it is heard and we 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.760 win in the first the first go around, or whether 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.840 we have to move up further through the core system. 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.840 I think we will prevail in the end, regardless of 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:27.480 the jurisdiction. 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.200 As somebody that lived in Rhode Island at one point 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.040 my life for five years, I can tell you that 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.600 I would not expect the odds are high on the 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.680 lower court level that you'd win, But I think you'd 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.680 win this on appeal, probably pretty easily, depending on where 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:47.520