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Speaker 4: Well, look, people who are non citizens do not enjoy

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg Jarrett, appreciate it. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: Well, we are the federal law.

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Speaker 1: Well you better do it. You better do it because

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Speaker 1: Good, I'll see you, and could I look forward to that.

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Speaker 2: That should be a really easy one.

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Speaker 1: And enjoy your.

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Speaker 2: Life after governor, because I don't think you'll be in

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Speaker 1: Now. There is a state legislator in Maine who will

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Speaker 1: And her name is Laurel Libby. You might recall that

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. I'm great and thrilled

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Speaker 1: I make fun of a friend of mine who lives

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Speaker 1: But it's a great state and I have a lot

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Speaker 2: The governor is completely out of touch with her fellow maynors.

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Speaker 2: Out of one hundred and fifty one state representatives across

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Speaker 1: Well, well, you know, as the father of a daughter

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Speaker 2: The end goal here is that we have our day

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Speaker 1: Okay, so how did the jurisdiction switch to Rhode Island.

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Speaker 2: All of the judges recuse themselves and put out a

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Speaker 1: And how are your fellow legislators reacting to this? Anyone

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Very partisan? Of course, the Democrats voted with simple art

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Speaker 1: The cent for what.

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Speaker 2: For exercising my right to free speech. It really is

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Speaker 2: And I won't apologize for speaking the truth and for

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Speaker 1: Understand, where are your fellow Republicans standing up for you?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this well.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting is many of my fellow Republicans

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Speaker 2: gave was that there were no other centers pending. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: so it clearly is political retaliation specifically against me, because

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Speaker 2: other representatives put the same post out there. There's no

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Speaker 2: accounting for common sense here.

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Speaker 1: All right, quick break, welcome back, more with Maine State

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Speaker 1: Legislator Laurel Libby is with us. I can't believe this

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Speaker 1: fight that she's engaged in. She's just standing up for

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Speaker 1: the right of Title nine and for whom not to

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Speaker 1: have to compete with men and women's sports, and how

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Speaker 1: she's being treated and silenced and ostracized, and now she's

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Speaker 1: taken her case to court, and how complicated this has

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Speaker 1: all become. More on the other side, will continue in

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Speaker 1: your calls coming up. I would continue now with Laura Libbey,

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Speaker 1: state legislator from Maine, who's been you know, just experienced

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Speaker 1: the censure and literally has been silenced just for a

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Speaker 1: social media post defending the right of women to maintain

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Speaker 1: Title nine and not have men compete in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: Is there is there any way if the Republicans were

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Speaker 1: unite together, is there any way they could basically shut

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Speaker 1: down the House until you are officially reinstated, because there

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Speaker 1: seems this seems to be a moment, a pivotal moment

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Speaker 1: of truth for Republicans in Maine that they should take

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Speaker 1: a stand on this very important issue, and that's the

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Speaker 1: right of Title nine and women and for men not

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Speaker 1: to play women's sports. Why don't they come together and

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Speaker 1: stand and united behind you and come up with a

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Speaker 1: strategy to counter this.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly a good question, Sean. And the fact

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Speaker 2: is the Democrats are determined to do all that they

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Speaker 2: can buy a simple majority. This year, the last two sessions,

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Speaker 2: we've had majority budgets rather than the two thirds consensus

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Speaker 2: that is required in the Constitution to pass the budget.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats are well versed in extra constitutional shenanigans to

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Speaker 2: get their way, So this is nothing new. Now, could

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Speaker 2: Republicans just not show up?

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Speaker 1: Why are Republicans putting up with that, Laurel? That makes

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Speaker 1: no sense to me. If they're not following the Constitution

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Speaker 1: as it relates to spending and spending bills, why is

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Speaker 1: that not challenged in court?

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes no sense to me either, Sean. The

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Speaker 2: way they've gotten around that is that they adjourn, sign

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Speaker 2: a die after passing a majority budget three months early,

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Speaker 2: and then call us back in for special session to

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Speaker 2: process the rest of the bills, and they get away

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Speaker 2: with it because you're frankly not used to being challenged.

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Speaker 2: So this lawsuit is the first time that this Democrat

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Speaker 2: majority has really seen a challenge because we're going through

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Speaker 2: the courts instead of just trying to fight at the

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Speaker 2: legislative level. This is the first time they've really seen

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Speaker 2: a challenge like that on a free speech issue like this,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Sure that they really sound like it sounds like they

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Speaker 1: need the challenge on the spending issue as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I almost feel like flying up to Maine and giving

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Speaker 1: these guys a pep talk and saying, hey, wake up

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Speaker 1: here and do your job.

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Speaker 2: Come on up, I'll make sure you get some lobster

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Speaker 2: while you're up here.

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Speaker 1: I'll get some main lobster. I do like lobster. I

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Speaker 1: like to drench it in butter, by the way. But

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Speaker 1: it's kind of sad that the Republicans. I'm more mad

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Speaker 1: at them now because all this is going on, and

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Speaker 1: even unconstitutional passage of spending bills, and then the case

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Speaker 1: you're defending the right of women not to compete against

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Speaker 1: men and women's sports, and yet they sit there on

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Speaker 1: their hands and they allow allowing all of this to

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Speaker 1: go on. I can't believe what I'm hearing. They need

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Speaker 1: to grow a spine and they need to unite.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is a frustrating situation to be and sean.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week, I was not able to vote on

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Speaker 2: a supplemental budget, which did get two thirds majority in

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Speaker 2: the House. Unfortunately, one of the first roll calls that

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Speaker 2: I couldn't participate in the other role call that we

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Speaker 2: had on Tuesday, You'll love this was regarding a resolution,

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Speaker 2: this joint resolution commemorating Women's History Month and International Women's Day.

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Speaker 2: Guests who couldn't vote or speak on that resolution unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely, I had a proxy speak for me, and

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Speaker 2: you'll not be surprised that the speaker hammered her down

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Speaker 2: part way through and didn't let her get all of

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Speaker 2: her words out.

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Speaker 1: Laurel, I appreciate you, and you do have our support,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. If we can help you in any way,

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Speaker 1: please let us know.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of bullies. Good grief,