Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Coley Wait, and today we have a
Speaker 1: very special guest. I pitched him, locked him in myself,
Speaker 1: comedian God Freason.
Speaker 2: How are you good? I'm good man.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have you. I thought for a
Speaker 1: second I wasn't gonna get you.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, because it went.
Speaker 1: I was texting and then went silent, and then it
Speaker 1: said notification silenced.
Speaker 2: I don't know silence.
Speaker 3: I don't even know it's I did that. My stuff
Speaker 3: hits my pocket. I go, oh, you did this too.
Speaker 2: I don't know why is my phone unanswering? It's yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It made my day to see Yo. And I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I was like yo, and I got off
Speaker 2: the plane. I came straight here from the airport.
Speaker 1: Really okay, okays me feel better. You're gonna cook a
Speaker 1: good dish. What are you gonna have me eating today?
Speaker 3: Real simple, poor man's poor woman's food, black beans, chicken, rice, plantains. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's always it's poor people's food, man. But being Nigeria,
Speaker 3: and that's come on to go to you be a Jamaican,
Speaker 3: go to rice beans.
Speaker 2: We know all that rice. Yeah, rice su beers and
Speaker 2: it's the full meal and it's healthy.
Speaker 1: It's healthy. That's why the only thing you're missing is
Speaker 1: some kind of vegetable.
Speaker 3: Oh, green beans would have been cooled, like green beans
Speaker 3: and peasco I would have had simple you can boil
Speaker 3: them cool.
Speaker 1: But our producer back there, Jared, was asking, He was like,
Speaker 1: how much does a meal like this cost? And I
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, this is the great thing about this
Speaker 1: dish is just for anyone curious how that this dish
Speaker 1: runs ten dollars. Just about it, like twelve dollars, twelve dollars.
Speaker 3: And depending on the type of chicken you get. If
Speaker 3: it's quality chicken, you're trying.
Speaker 2: To get that.
Speaker 1: But if you're and you're struggling, twelve dollars and.
Speaker 3: You make a bunch of it and you can save
Speaker 3: it for a couple of days. You like a pot
Speaker 3: of stuff, then like we would do it in my house,
Speaker 3: my parents do it. You make a pot of stuff,
Speaker 3: put it in refrigerator, takes them out to eat it.
Speaker 2: Boom, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's twelve twelve dollars, and I'd say it's
Speaker 1: at least four to six servings for twelve bucks. If
Speaker 1: you're out there and you're trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: to do for dinner, black beans, chicken, plantains, and your combination.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while you get a little burger
Speaker 2: from Wendy. Everyone around you have those little cheap little combos.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta combine, a little hump, a little
Speaker 2: survival tool. Right there, I'll get a little outside food.
Speaker 2: You eat it said, whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Man, So what are you seasoning all your chicken with?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I just use basic like salt, garlic. You got,
Speaker 2: you got garlic, salt. That's good.
Speaker 1: You gonna put oil in that pot? And God told
Speaker 1: us that you are only olive oil, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: I tried olive oil avocado.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have both a grape seed. Yeah, we just
Speaker 1: discovered grape seed on this shows.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I been.
Speaker 1: I thought it had some hidden he elemented the guest.
Speaker 3: Coadles best as far as heat heating, you know, olive oil,
Speaker 3: it's not bad, but alvocados is like the best.
Speaker 2: But I'll use those.
Speaker 1: Three crying if you're crying.
Speaker 3: Cocon and oil, olive oil, avocado, But coconut and grape seed.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones for like frying and stuff. That's
Speaker 2: what I do. But I don't deep fry.
Speaker 3: It's like a salt tape. Now I do a thing
Speaker 3: where it's fry a little bit boil. It's like I'll
Speaker 3: pour water to combine it and it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I got Well you do it over and over,
Speaker 2: you start fighting rays.
Speaker 3: This is a little better. I don't want to fry
Speaker 3: it too hard. Like in between, I'll throw some water.
Speaker 3: Boil and water don't mix. But yeah, you can put
Speaker 3: a top over.
Speaker 2: It works. Yeah, but the water a little bit a
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah goo, Wait what is this one? Let
Speaker 2: me make sure I get to turn this so on
Speaker 2: turn all right? All right, all right, all right?
Speaker 1: So is this a childhood dish?
Speaker 2: Chop?
Speaker 1: Childhood I'm saying, like, is this something that your parents made?
Speaker 1: Growing up?
Speaker 3: My parents made Nigerians so we had food food, We
Speaker 3: had gari, we had ebba, we had all we had.
Speaker 3: Not Nigerian food was the major thing. We had jel
Speaker 3: off rice, moi moi chin just all. My mother could
Speaker 3: burn all Nigerian West Africans. But then we had American
Speaker 3: food like swedeti and regular stuff. But Nigerian food was
Speaker 3: the main thing a goosey, okra soup, pepper soup.
Speaker 2: It was all and yeah it's great, so it slide me,
Speaker 2: but it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a very But now Nigerian food is
Speaker 3: popular now and people know about okra. A goosy is
Speaker 3: my favorite. Goosey is like a mixture of spinach and
Speaker 3: melon seeds.
Speaker 2: It's like a soup, but it's my favorite. Man.
Speaker 3: They have a place out here Aduka over there not
Speaker 3: too far from the airport, a Duka's Nigerian cuisine.
Speaker 2: Fans we.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that.
Speaker 3: I think it's a duke of Nigerian cuisine. It's she
Speaker 3: Her stuff is fantastic.
Speaker 1: But what's the name of the sup again?
Speaker 3: A gusy e g u s i ay And you
Speaker 3: all know jel off because you have Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal.
Speaker 2: They're all battling and who has the best jel Off rice?
Speaker 3: I eat all of them? Senegal got I think Senagal
Speaker 3: is the original. I think Senegalese food is unreal. It's
Speaker 3: tebu gen tibi yap if they got fish and this
Speaker 3: lamb debu yap and their jelly rice is fire.
Speaker 2: Like really, Oh yeah, food making me hungry. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: good stuffs.
Speaker 1: And then we couldn't get you to cook ment of
Speaker 1: that for us. Okay, shout out to God for again.
Speaker 1: Now I said, you could have cooked any of this
Speaker 1: for us today.
Speaker 2: You know what Nigeria food. It takes a lot. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of ingredients.
Speaker 3: My mother would cook all day and and the problem is,
Speaker 3: like I never my me and my brother never got
Speaker 3: to go to the kitchen and cook because my parent
Speaker 3: fathers like man doesn't come in and kidchen women do.
Speaker 2: It's very chuvelistic ship.
Speaker 3: And then when I got when on my own, my
Speaker 3: father was like you know how to make stuff? I go,
Speaker 3: you didn't let us in the kitchen. How am I
Speaker 3: supposed to know how to make the Nigerian food? And
Speaker 3: it's a process. Yeah, it's a process man.
Speaker 2: Some stuff.
Speaker 3: There's a thing called puff puff right like fried dough
Speaker 3: almost like I think I've seen it. Puff uff is
Speaker 3: Nigerian like Zeppel's. Italians have something similar. That's why we're
Speaker 3: all so related. When ever you see cuisine pop up,
Speaker 3: you go, wow, they eat that too, right, puff up?
Speaker 2: But it takes a day. It's like a dough, a yeast.
Speaker 2: You got to put in a refrigerator and wait a
Speaker 2: whole twenty four hours. So my mother do all kinds
Speaker 2: of news.
Speaker 1: I've seen it online, like where they like roll it
Speaker 1: in the soup or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's that would be. Yeah, have you tried?
Speaker 1: That is a good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all that food is, That's what I cream up with.
Speaker 1: That's really I'm just wondering about that texture. That really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to go to a Nigerian restaurant with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should know a word.
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good stuff, man, I love all that stuff.
Speaker 3: And being Nigerian first a generation, just always eating foreign
Speaker 3: food was just always normal to me. Growing up in Chicago.
Speaker 3: I lived in an area where everybody was immigrants. But
Speaker 3: even though Chicago's the most segregated city in the country,
Speaker 3: still all my friends were like Vietnamese, Cambodian, Filipino, Nigerian, Ethiopian, Polish, Russian.
Speaker 2: Yugoslavia when it was Yugoslavia.
Speaker 3: Haitian, jew, Jewish, Ashkenazi, Ethiopian Jew.
Speaker 2: So everybody was foreign. Everybody had that's all we ate.
Speaker 3: My next door from Cambodia, so I was eating food
Speaker 3: from Cambodia, layouts and Vietnam.
Speaker 2: So these are my friends fresh off the boat.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And then you had American food, but we had our.
Speaker 1: When you ate the American food didn't even come close
Speaker 1: to comparing.
Speaker 2: It was good. We liked it too. It was just
Speaker 2: two different types of We loved hot dogs. We ate
Speaker 2: hot dogs and amberg. We loved all that. But then
Speaker 2: we loved our food tea.
Speaker 3: We would throw down on our stews and our oxtails
Speaker 3: and our fish and our yeah man and tripe and
Speaker 3: the tripe, and it's like Jamaican food, you're Jamaican.
Speaker 2: I love Caribbean.
Speaker 3: Fred I'm an oxtail what No, you can't oxtail jerk chicken.
Speaker 1: K But I'm also a snob because I don't think
Speaker 1: everyone makes it.
Speaker 3: Of course, now, my mother was so good, and we
Speaker 3: were very snobby about other Nigerian because we were like,
Speaker 3: that's not as good as my mom's.
Speaker 1: And I was just about to ask you do you
Speaker 1: think it's because it's our mom's conditions. Jamaican is so
Speaker 1: good that every restaurant I go to, I'm like, eh no.
Speaker 3: I have a friend whose mom couldn't cook for ship
Speaker 3: and she heard it was trash. My mom was dope
Speaker 3: because we would taste other people to go nah man,
Speaker 3: and people would come over our house.
Speaker 2: They knew my mom was making stuff like hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how I am. One of my homegirls
Speaker 1: are aunt cooks like that. And anytime it's a holiday,
Speaker 1: you already know. I'm pulling up, save me a plate.
Speaker 1: But you got to get there fast because that food
Speaker 1: run out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, whoa, this is popping?
Speaker 1: Is the second is done? It's gone?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But take me back to what was going on in
Speaker 1: the era of beans rice and chicken beans rice. What
Speaker 1: you're making us today?
Speaker 2: When I was coming up, yeah, take me bad.
Speaker 1: So when were you making this dish to survive?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man?
Speaker 3: When I was doing comedy, Man, when you're living on
Speaker 3: your own. When I started living on my own in Chicago,
Speaker 3: when I after college, I was like getting into comedy
Speaker 3: and stuff. And then I got I got up. I
Speaker 3: booked a commercial, like a McDonald's commercial, and then I
Speaker 3: got all this money. I was like, I can move
Speaker 3: out now. My father's good. You can find your own spot.
Speaker 3: And then I know, and of course they supplied me
Speaker 3: with silverware and pots and bands and shiit.
Speaker 2: Anything you need? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I started, Okay, what do I think
Speaker 3: I know I could make? I don't know how to
Speaker 3: make Nigerian food. Yeah, I'll just go get it from
Speaker 3: my mother and bring it to the crisis.
Speaker 1: Smart. How far did you move from them?
Speaker 2: Oh man? About twenty minutes away? Oh yeah, good because
Speaker 2: I had a little I had a little studio. Okay,
Speaker 2: but it was nice to be on my own.
Speaker 1: And how old are you at this time?
Speaker 2: I'm like twenty two or something.
Speaker 3: And my my father was like, it's good that you
Speaker 3: live on your own. That's good because your mother wants
Speaker 3: you to stay forever. Yeah, and because moms always wanted
Speaker 3: to want their kids.
Speaker 2: And my father said, I'm telling you, I mean, you
Speaker 2: live on your own, You're gonna see the difference. And
Speaker 2: he was like, I was like, he was right. He goes,
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to be able to come in and
Speaker 2: go in as you want. Yeah, you don't want your
Speaker 2: mother to wait? Where are you in this office? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So it was smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pops was right.
Speaker 2: Pops was He ain't never been wrong. He was never wrong.
Speaker 2: My father was never wrong. Even though I pissed you off.
Speaker 2: When you're telling you.
Speaker 3: Like what and then you're like, damn, he was right, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he says I lived the life too.
Speaker 2: I was a kid too. You're talking about it. I'm
Speaker 2: not lying. I'm gonna lie to you. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So you're in your apartment and you're cooking this chicken.
Speaker 2: Rice and beans, vegetables because I want to feel healthy.
Speaker 1: And where are you calling your mom back?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Mom?
Speaker 1: How do I do this?
Speaker 2: Not really because I was getting it. And then you
Speaker 2: start some women you bring over, they know how to
Speaker 2: do shit. They go, now you do this that that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, Yeah, I handle that.
Speaker 1: Oh you're like, yeah, I started the heat.
Speaker 2: Now you just take care of the rest of that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then beans, I'll take kidney beans, black beans, what
Speaker 3: was the other? The pento beans? That's always easy, that's feeling.
Speaker 3: You just get the starches in the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I knew how to do the plantains. Well.
Speaker 1: When I first asked you, it was looking rough. You
Speaker 1: were like ramen some chicken.
Speaker 3: But I remember having in college because I didn't know
Speaker 3: what spirit he meant, broke broke in career wise.
Speaker 2: But yeah, college was Robin and the funny because Robin
Speaker 2: had three flavors, but it was all tastes the same.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. It was disgusting that little pat Do.
Speaker 1: You want to know something I learned on eating while broke.
Speaker 1: There's different romans.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: There's the company we had that was the wrong at
Speaker 3: the top as.
Speaker 1: A bullshit, but they got the Thai ramen and let
Speaker 1: me tell you something, the other ones.
Speaker 2: Way better, way better. Wha. But we did. We were
Speaker 2: exposed to that. You wait, there's ten robins for a dollar.
Speaker 1: Yeah none, yeah, and you doctor it up your own way.
Speaker 3: Doctor it up like you right there, sprinkle show and
Speaker 3: then the worst after taste. It was the worst after
Speaker 3: taste you think so disgusting. It was disgusting, but that
Speaker 3: got us through. We survived with that. And then in college.
Speaker 3: I went away for college.
Speaker 2: So we would go to a cafe.
Speaker 3: There was a cafe we all hang out in like
Speaker 3: different world. Yeah, they we had something orange and so
Speaker 3: we come there and my buddies worked at the cafe,
Speaker 3: so they'd be like, yo, my shift is at this time,
Speaker 3: So yo, you're going if you all you do is
Speaker 3: spend like five dollars, but I'm gonna give.
Speaker 2: You more than that. Make sure you get my stuff
Speaker 2: and then we'll meet at the door and later. So
Speaker 2: we was we was trying to beat the system.
Speaker 3: I like getting burgers, mad juices, I like that waters, sodas,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Extra fries, extra. So it
Speaker 3: was a combination of ramen at the crib that nasty
Speaker 3: ass cafeteria food because we survived off of that because
Speaker 3: the cafeteria food was true rash. You're like at a
Speaker 3: big university like this, and we would make our rice Chrispies,
Speaker 3: our own little homemade rice Chrispy joints. You just get
Speaker 3: the marshmallows, put the right put it in the microwave,
Speaker 3: and we all just got eat it up.
Speaker 2: The It's amazing how you survived it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Now, did you know when you were in college
Speaker 1: that you wanted to pursue comedy?
Speaker 3: Third year Tommy Davidson came to my college and we
Speaker 3: showed he we showed him around campus and all that,
Speaker 3: and when he performed, I was thinking about du I
Speaker 3: was like, I think I want to do that. I
Speaker 3: think that's what I want to do. And the girl
Speaker 3: I was dating at the time, she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should do it. You always holding court in the cafeteria.
Speaker 3: You're funny as hell. And not funny because just funny
Speaker 3: because my friends were funny too. It was because I
Speaker 3: was very militant in college. Yeah, I was very pro black,
Speaker 3: very African American studies. We started a group to the
Speaker 3: chagrin of the president of the university, Stan Ikenberry, racist bastard.
Speaker 3: We started a group where we wanted to learn about
Speaker 3: pre slavery and post slavery.
Speaker 2: We wanted to learn about us. And we started a book.
Speaker 3: Club on our own, and we were able to bring
Speaker 3: in speakers, Native American speakers and Latin speakers, historians Africanism
Speaker 3: to teach us stuff. And so I became that dude
Speaker 3: like militant, like school days like it was militancy. And
Speaker 3: then we're and then at the time, you're listening to
Speaker 3: hip hop KRS one, Public Enemy, you listen to Brand New,
Speaker 3: but you're listening to Day You listening to a conscious
Speaker 3: rap Queen Latifa was a conscious rapper, but he listened.
Speaker 3: So we was militant, so I could I was able
Speaker 3: to be funny talking about racism, talking about Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I was dope with it.
Speaker 2: I would talk like that.
Speaker 3: Imagine Malcolm X as a comedian, like if he was
Speaker 3: just you know how sometimes they can be really funny.
Speaker 2: But I'm yeah, I was like that.
Speaker 3: I wasn't as like serious, but I was like silly
Speaker 3: with it, but I was talking about real shit.
Speaker 1: And that's why she was like, this is definitely because I.
Speaker 2: Remember my friend. She the girl like Dais her name was.
Speaker 3: She was a rebound check from my other girl that
Speaker 3: was on campus. But she was like she wrote one that.
Speaker 3: She wrote down everything on a yellow legal pad. I
Speaker 3: was just talking and she goes, I wrote down most
Speaker 3: of the shit that you were so funny.
Speaker 2: I wrote it down. We woke up. I said, what
Speaker 2: the hell is all this this shit? You said yesterday?
Speaker 2: Can you want to be a comedian? And now on
Speaker 2: Club Shaysha, I brought her name. Her name was Toya
Speaker 2: Dixon and I brought her name up and.
Speaker 3: Her she was like, Yo, everybody's calling me, say you
Speaker 3: brought my name up on club ship because you it's
Speaker 3: the truth. Wow, you wrote that thing. And I said,
Speaker 3: all right, when I get back to Chicago. I went
Speaker 3: to the University of Illinois.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when.
Speaker 3: I get back to Chicago. I'm gonna go for open mics.
Speaker 3: And that's how that shit started.
Speaker 1: Now did you take the material that she had written down?
Speaker 3: And I don't even remember where it was, but I said,
Speaker 3: I'm going to start doing comedy. And I started in
Speaker 3: a comedy team with another guy for a year, and
Speaker 3: then from there I did. I wasn't really digging that
Speaker 3: because he wasn't as passionate as.
Speaker 1: I well, and I was gonna say, what's a comedy team?
Speaker 2: Team? You're doing sketches, Like yeah, I was right, this.
Speaker 1: Is this is but this was before sketches was a thing.
Speaker 2: No sketches have been around before me.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you were doing it stand, but you
Speaker 1: were doing it in the stage.
Speaker 2: We do that.
Speaker 3: We'd have my sketches like okay, and it was cool man,
Speaker 3: and we had little costumes and dumb ship like that.
Speaker 2: And then after that I was like this. I was
Speaker 2: disgruntled about it because he wasn't as passionate as I was.
Speaker 2: You have to be insane.
Speaker 3: And I remember talking to Steve Harvey at this club
Speaker 3: in Chicago called All Jokes Aside, and I was in
Speaker 3: the hallway kind of pissing it.
Speaker 2: Steve was like asking meuse, like, why what's up?
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I'm tired of Steve's not as
Speaker 3: passionate as I am, he seems like.
Speaker 2: And he goes, how much you're getting paid for it?
Speaker 2: I said, we're getting like a hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: And he goes, are you tired of? Are you tired
Speaker 3: of splitting that ship? I remember he goes, cut his
Speaker 3: ass and he just walked away that Steve Harvey said,
Speaker 3: cut his ass.
Speaker 2: I remember that ship.
Speaker 3: And then at the time to Steve was Steve was
Speaker 3: a headliner, Steve from County for a long ass time.
Speaker 3: Like Steve was like a big dog, like as far
Speaker 3: as the comedy scene, not super famous, but he was
Speaker 3: a big dog.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: I was just starting I wasn't even doing solo shit yet.
Speaker 2: So he told me cut him you should you say
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 3: The skills, man, And so that's when I started doing
Speaker 3: the solo shit. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now did you have to meditate on it for a
Speaker 1: minute or did you just know?
Speaker 3: The next week, I was already because I was already
Speaker 3: writing shit on the side.
Speaker 2: In case this goes, no good goes left.
Speaker 3: I'm going to start doing stuff on my own. So
Speaker 3: I started doing open mics by myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, did you ever have a moment within that
Speaker 1: window of I don't know if this is for me?
Speaker 1: Did you ever a bomb or?
Speaker 3: As soon as I hit I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: doing this.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you no bombing comes with it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I know what I want to do. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know it? Yeah, yeah, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: Once you got a taste, I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, how I need I want to
Speaker 2: be able to talk shit?
Speaker 1: Now, how do your parents perceive this at the time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really I thought you were going to.
Speaker 2: Do psychiatry school. You're a pre met psych major.
Speaker 1: I thought you gonna pre med psychic comic. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's not a big stretch because a
Speaker 3: lot of comedians were astrophysicists, lawyers, doctors.
Speaker 2: A lot of people were like real professional.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had another buddy.
Speaker 3: He's passed, But Greg Giraldo was a fantastic comedian.
Speaker 2: His son does comedy in New York now, Greg Giraldo Junior.
Speaker 2: But he was amazing. He was a Harvard lawyer.
Speaker 3: Wow, and then he'd gotten a comedy. So there's film majors.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people have degrees in comedy.
Speaker 1: But from a parental perspective, parents.
Speaker 3: Were like, no, make sure you have something to fall
Speaker 3: back on. I go, I'm falling back on this.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, but my father, that's cool, but make sure you
Speaker 2: finish your studies.
Speaker 1: And did you finish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, psychology degree.
Speaker 3: And I think I've learned more about psychology living in
Speaker 3: New York than any You don't need to go to
Speaker 3: any psych ward or anything.
Speaker 2: You just live in New York and a big psych
Speaker 2: war and just.
Speaker 3: Doing comedy is so Psycholog's so many psychological things in
Speaker 3: comedy on why people laugh. I even had a book
Speaker 3: about Freud and the Jokes in the Subconscious, which is
Speaker 3: a little weird of a read. But I there's reasons
Speaker 3: why people laugh. There's nostalgia, there's pain, there's there's relation,
Speaker 3: there's all.
Speaker 2: Kinds of shit. Oh.
Speaker 1: I used to always I used always think it was
Speaker 1: just like if someone can relate my favorite comics or
Speaker 1: the comics that I can relate to. So I always
Speaker 1: say my my toxic comics, like you're bil Bird, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call them Bilberd Sebastian like anyone that has the
Speaker 1: toxic childhood. I'm like, those are my favorites, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can relate to them, it's great.
Speaker 1: So I just assumed it was relatability.
Speaker 2: Relate. First of all, you're gonna be who you are.
Speaker 2: If someone doesn't get you, they don't get you. You can't.
Speaker 2: Just as people, we don't get along with everybody. Some
Speaker 2: people we click with, some people, some people we just don't.
Speaker 2: That's the same thing with comedy.
Speaker 3: It's like, some people ain't gonna fuck with you because
Speaker 3: you say things they don't like.
Speaker 2: Oh bye.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing about comedy. Go find someone else. Yeah,
Speaker 3: check the schedule. There's a whole bunch of other comedians.
Speaker 3: But if you're gonna come in my show.
Speaker 2: And then open your mouth because you don't like something,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get smoked. Yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna dust you off real quick. My thing is,
Speaker 3: you don't have to laugh, you just sit there and go.
Speaker 2: You don't have to I don't give off funk if
Speaker 2: you don't laugh.
Speaker 1: Wow, Because how long did it take for you to
Speaker 1: get to that point?
Speaker 3: About when I got to I was in New York
Speaker 3: in Chicago two three, years. Then I moved to New York.
Speaker 3: That's when I think, yeah, five six years in. When
Speaker 3: you go New York is a different attitude because it's
Speaker 3: like you're around really dope, because I was around Chappelle, Seinfeld,
Speaker 3: Gray Ramone and Bill.
Speaker 2: Me and Bill came up, Bill Burr me Bill.
Speaker 3: When Bill had hair red hair, I was, that's how
Speaker 3: long I've known Bill red hair because me Bill, it was,
Speaker 3: it was Robert Kelly, Keith Robinson. It was a lot
Speaker 3: of us there, just a big group of us. Tracy Morgan,
Speaker 3: we can keep going, Jimmy, I think.
Speaker 1: New York comics when I go to LA. Not talking
Speaker 1: smack about LA, but New York and LA are uncrible comparable.
Speaker 2: New York's Landslide. New York is I'm sorry, we dusted off.
Speaker 1: I think it's because you guys get more reps.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, And.
Speaker 1: I think I think that it also helps that New
Speaker 1: York cheats comics better than LA.
Speaker 3: I think that I think it's the international thing too,
Speaker 3: because in every almost every show there's we're from Scotland,
Speaker 3: We're from Ireland, We're from the Netherlands. We're from Sweden,
Speaker 3: we're from Norway, we're from Germany where I had Yester
Speaker 3: the other Italic we're from Italy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to come to It's always international, Canada, Australia.
Speaker 3: It never failed, and it's always like that. You get
Speaker 3: foreigners all the time and they like honesty. H the UK,
Speaker 3: they go man. But it's the American ones that be bitching.
Speaker 3: It's always, and it's mainly white women. They're always fucking
Speaker 3: up comedy. They fuck comedy up. And this is me
Speaker 3: not categorizing on them, but white comics, Latin comics, women comic.
Speaker 3: I go, whenever we have a complaint, I said, who
Speaker 3: was she white? Yep, it was a white girl. White
Speaker 3: girl tears, white girls interrupting. It's usually ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the time it's a white woman bitching about what you're saying, complaining.
Speaker 1: About the privilege.
Speaker 2: It's the privilege and white girl tear bullshit.
Speaker 3: Because I had a white girl wanted to fight me
Speaker 3: the other day, she I go, She was like, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I go, I don't hit women, so get out of
Speaker 3: my face. I get a girl and can fuck you up.
Speaker 3: I'll knock you the fuck out, But I don't hit women.
Speaker 3: My father didn't hit my mother my father didn't even
Speaker 3: raise his voice to my mother. I don't hit women.
Speaker 3: I never understand the concept of dudes hitting women. Now,
Speaker 3: I only get me wrong.
Speaker 2: I want to smack shit out you, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna do it.
Speaker 3: She heckled me and said, wow, you just move on.
Speaker 3: I go, no, bitch, you don't tell me to move on.
Speaker 3: You shut the fuck up and listen. That's how this goes,
Speaker 3: you know, I remember.
Speaker 1: So don't they kick him out too?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you really got it because the bouncers there. He
Speaker 2: can't wait to yoke people up. Big giant African, French
Speaker 2: African dude. He'd be like, he'd be like, you have
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 3: Took it too much if you don't listen and her
Speaker 3: boyfriend is there letting her talk, because it's like pussy
Speaker 3: whip that yo, tell you girl, like if I'm with
Speaker 3: a chick, she's not gonna she don't have class.
Speaker 2: You're yelling shit out. She doesn't have to like. You
Speaker 2: don't have to like us. It's okay, I watch.
Speaker 1: But it's a show. You're supposed to be quiet.
Speaker 2: I watch shows. I may not like them, but I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna go I'm not gonna say nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and then and it's like.
Speaker 3: I always get a lot of women hecklers all the time,
Speaker 3: always women always yelling at me.
Speaker 2: They just say stuff and I go, Yo, I get it.
Speaker 2: My fate is tirer than your boyfriends.
Speaker 3: I understand. I get it. You're upset, don't I know
Speaker 3: you like me because you're interrupting me. It's too much. Stop,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. My fate is tight. My
Speaker 3: sneakers is way doper than his.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, I'm in decent shape. I get it.
Speaker 1: But you're in great shape.
Speaker 3: But when you talk to me, and then when I
Speaker 3: burn you, now you're victim. Now now you're victim. But
Speaker 3: you I don't see.
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't fuck with the audience. I'm
Speaker 2: not a crowd dude. I don't. I have ship to say,
Speaker 2: and if something naturally happens, I'll address it.
Speaker 3: But I have no interest in whether you're dating or fun.
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: I got ship to say material. If they had a
Speaker 2: fence and the crowd was fifty feet away, I have material.
Speaker 2: I don't need to go yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need to do crowd work none that shit.
Speaker 2: That's just my style. Yeah, and yeah so, and I'm
Speaker 2: not in my as a commedian.
Speaker 3: I love edge. I love the edge. I like to
Speaker 3: push the envelope. I like my Klan jokes. What would
Speaker 3: it be like to be a member of the Klan?
Speaker 3: You know, I tried to join. They didn't let me,
Speaker 3: and I said, good, I'm testing you. Yeah, because if
Speaker 3: you would have let me in, I'd be like you
Speaker 3: slipping the h Yeah, you slipping supposed to be about
Speaker 3: that white supremacy.
Speaker 2: How you're gonna let me in? This bitch? Fuck wrong
Speaker 2: with you? You know what I mean? Diversity and shit? Man,
Speaker 2: how are you gonna be a clan member and not
Speaker 2: stick with your shit?
Speaker 3: I love going there because to see white people go
Speaker 3: the Klan because I'll say klu kukx.
Speaker 2: Klan, I go, people go, wait a minute, oh I go.
Speaker 2: We mean awe.
Speaker 3: What's so different about a clan member calling us niggers
Speaker 3: and say.
Speaker 2: You niggers got our neighborhood?
Speaker 3: Then you being upset at a black neighbor or being
Speaker 3: assive aggressive to a black neighbor. What's the difference? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you still are You're the same. You're doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like instead of pouring acid in your face in India,
Speaker 3: like some of them. Some people in some parts of
Speaker 3: India they pour acid in women's faces foods that get rejected,
Speaker 3: and that's like going, that's terrible. All we do is
Speaker 3: we punch our women in the face in America.
Speaker 1: That's no, it's still abuse, it's still abused.
Speaker 2: So I like to talk about those things.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah.
Speaker 3: I like to talk about spirituality and people going on retreats.
Speaker 2: I go, that's your problem. You're always retreating? Yeah, you always?
Speaker 2: Who the fuck can't go into the mountains and meditate?
Speaker 3: That ain't shit. Now, when you practice your spirituality, how
Speaker 3: about when a dude in New York on the train
Speaker 3: bumps you by accident, do you elematically call him a
Speaker 3: spick or a nigger, a chip or whatever, or do
Speaker 3: you go, that's all right, he didn't mean it. That's
Speaker 3: when you practice your spirituality, when you can in front
Speaker 3: of people, not in the woods.
Speaker 2: You paid ayahuashka, you have some shaw men in the wood?
Speaker 2: No fuck that. What do you do in New York
Speaker 2: on the subway when the motherfucker's screaming at you? How
Speaker 2: do you handle it?
Speaker 3: So I like to address all those the idiot. What
Speaker 3: is it the idiot ship that goes on with human beings.
Speaker 1: And the women are still triggered. You don't forget to
Speaker 1: turn it on.
Speaker 2: I got to help him. But yeah, he said, women
Speaker 2: get triggered by me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said they get triggered. They get triggered, Like
Speaker 1: how you cut this planting?
Speaker 2: Sorry, you can be on anything, you know, he can
Speaker 2: be on anything.
Speaker 3: Women get triggered by because I'm not doing my comedy
Speaker 3: for women to be I just want you to be
Speaker 3: a fan of comedy.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. There's some comics that appease women because
Speaker 2: you're saying, I go, I just I'm just being funny.
Speaker 2: I don't. I have jokes that are clean, jokes that
Speaker 2: are but I don't. I'm not worried about a girl
Speaker 2: not liking me because I'm doing what the fuck I want.
Speaker 2: I'm a man. Yeah you that means you ain't for me.
Speaker 2: I like women fuck with me because I'm a fucking dude.
Speaker 3: And if you can't separate that from jokes to my
Speaker 3: MEA is eleven and fuck you, yeah out of here.
Speaker 3: Because I've had situations where after a show groople girls
Speaker 3: they didn't like what I said, and then the dude
Speaker 3: that's next to me, the comedy exst to me. They
Speaker 3: liked what he said, so they'll be like, we liked you.
Speaker 3: I go, that's nice. Bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I like when I'm not like sometimes it's okay. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: Because I knew not everybody's going this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you don't like me, I'm like, what
Speaker 3: am I in grade school? I can't come play with
Speaker 3: you in the sandbox? Fuck out of here. This is comedy,
Speaker 3: this is freedom.
Speaker 1: You New York at way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've been in New York for twenty one.
Speaker 1: Years, and now what prompted the move to New York reps.
Speaker 3: And just a better quality of I wanted to be
Speaker 3: a damn good commut I would say, comedy is.
Speaker 2: Going to keep me in the game.
Speaker 3: And to me, stand up comedy is like a magical power.
Speaker 3: To me, it's magic because to make people laugh you
Speaker 3: don't even fucking know, just come in a room and
Speaker 3: have them rolling.
Speaker 2: That is a level of emotion. It's a level It's.
Speaker 3: Like when I make a baby laugh. To me, it's
Speaker 3: the greatest shit in the world. To make it an
Speaker 3: infant laugh infants. Baby's always looking to laugh, they always
Speaker 3: want to be To make a baby laugh to me is.
Speaker 2: Just a level of It's the best shit in the world.
Speaker 3: A baby's laugh I laughing. It's you wouldn't look at pets.
Speaker 3: When dogs get around babies, they do the.
Speaker 2: Thing they do stuff. The cats do crazy shit. That's
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother spiritual level to me.
Speaker 3: To make a baby laugh and the pets, No, they
Speaker 3: do silly shit.
Speaker 2: And the baby's like cracking up. The dogs running around
Speaker 2: in a circle.
Speaker 3: Even the dog knows yeah, and you as a human being,
Speaker 3: you mad, could fuck you dog for real.
Speaker 1: So just to backtrack just a little bit, you said
Speaker 1: that early on you had booked a McDonald's commercial. Now
Speaker 1: this is before you decided that.
Speaker 2: You were going to pursue No, I was in comedy.
Speaker 1: Oh you were.
Speaker 3: Because the agent I had saw me at a comedy
Speaker 3: show and so, hey, man, you're really talented. You can
Speaker 3: do voice stuff, and just that you got it, you
Speaker 3: should come to my It was a Phoenix Talent some ship.
Speaker 3: It was a black agency, and that was the first
Speaker 3: time I was auditioning for commercials.
Speaker 2: See how I slice it.
Speaker 1: My mom would do it like, oh, that's how you
Speaker 1: do it. Oh, so I definitely butchered your slic.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they cut it. I like it when my mother
Speaker 2: would do it like this, like that, like flat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though these are green ones, this would be
Speaker 3: like the thons, like with the Latinos.
Speaker 2: When it's green, it's those thorning. Then when it's sweetest,
Speaker 2: my dudo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how my mom would do it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: With the Haitians it's banana. We call it dodo or plantain.
Speaker 3: The Caribbeans called it planting. And then if you're in
Speaker 3: I'm good. And then if you're in Amsterdam, these people
Speaker 3: would look like me and.
Speaker 2: You, but they speak Dutch.
Speaker 3: It's a Dutch colony. Suronam is a Dutch colony. So
Speaker 3: the Dutch people came and fucked everybody, and it's it's right.
Speaker 3: It's by South America and Surinamese people are living in
Speaker 3: Holland because they slavery and just rape pillaging. So everybody
Speaker 3: came out real cool looking. And so the Surinamese they
Speaker 3: speak Dutch. They're the black people of.
Speaker 2: Holland.
Speaker 3: And so I went to a Sernamese restaurant because I
Speaker 3: was performing in Amsterdam. No in Holland in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: but I did Dutch comedy for ten years.
Speaker 2: So I was like, So we went to a Cernamese restaurant.
Speaker 3: The food was banging, and then I see a big
Speaker 3: ass banana come out.
Speaker 2: I go, so, y'all.
Speaker 3: Eat it too, huh? And I said, what's it called bacabana?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yes, all this are all.
Speaker 3: Connected with the banana. That's why I when like Dominicans
Speaker 3: and Puerto Ricans be like, I know black, I know black.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah you are. Why are we? Why are
Speaker 2: we eating fried bananas?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I know black, Papa, I know black, I Dominican.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fuck. Why do you have this in
Speaker 3: your dish? Why do Nigerians eat this and Ghanaians eat this?
Speaker 3: Why are Trinidadians and Jamaicans eating It's stupid, Maduro Storny.
Speaker 1: We got that dodo like that you actually say this
Speaker 1: and stuff to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, look at the big banana, buddy.
Speaker 3: If Asians don't eat this unless they're Chinese Jamaicans, the
Speaker 3: Chinese Jamaicans eat it because.
Speaker 2: The China Chinese have been there since the sixties. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they've been in Jamaica since the sixties. Now they're in Nigeria. Now,
Speaker 2: Chinese are in Ji. When I was in Nigeria last year,
Speaker 2: they're there. They're fixing the infrastructure NIGERI all, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be Chinese Jamaicans. There's Chinese. They're gonna be Chinese Chinese Nigeria.
Speaker 1: Hey, then then Chinese Jamaica's next.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be Jamaican and they're gonna be nice.
Speaker 1: And you're the chicken. You're positive, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is great. Cool?
Speaker 1: You want off?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Cool? One dishdown, two dish down.
Speaker 2: He has bread, beans and rice.
Speaker 1: Yep. The only thing we're waiting on is the plantains.
Speaker 2: All right, cool cool cool? Yeah, uh huh okay.
Speaker 1: So we're in your story.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: You get that advice you break up with your partner,
Speaker 1: my partner, my partner solo.
Speaker 2: Then I moved to New York after about two years.
Speaker 3: Moved to New York driving a U haul truck twenty hours,
Speaker 3: twenty something hours and U haul truck pack all my
Speaker 3: shit and with my friend Bernadette, who was in the
Speaker 3: movie Love Jones. If you ever saw Love Jones, you
Speaker 3: ever seen Love Jones. Loved Jones with Lorenz Tate who's
Speaker 3: also from Chicago. Lorenz and his brothers Lamar, we're all
Speaker 3: Chicago people. And my friend Bernadette who was in love Jones,
Speaker 3: who I went.
Speaker 2: To high school with. She drove with me.
Speaker 3: She goes, Hey, I said, I'm going to New York
Speaker 3: I'm driving. She goes, you know what, I'll come with you.
Speaker 2: And she came with. She's now a director.
Speaker 3: She does a lot of really great ship and so
Speaker 3: we drove all the way to New York City. And
Speaker 3: if you know who Wood Harris is, Yep. Wood Harris
Speaker 3: is Chicago.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I've had a crush on him since
Speaker 1: I was like, that's amazing, isn't that weird? Since I
Speaker 1: was a little girl. He was like good, an adult man,
Speaker 1: it's a weird.
Speaker 2: Thing, right, Yeah, it's like it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It is weird though, because it was like a sick
Speaker 1: confession a little kid.
Speaker 3: He is a Chicago guy like and we used to
Speaker 3: go to poetry Slab in Chicago, and I remember when
Speaker 3: he got accepted to Tish and Yu and I remember
Speaker 3: the street. We were on Kinsey Street, downtown Chicago. He's
Speaker 3: outside he goes, Yo, god, man, check it out. I
Speaker 3: got accepted to tish Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I just got accepted. I said, damn, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm moving to New York
Speaker 2: next year. I'm planning on doing that. He goes, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I'm leaving a few months.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So I see you over there, bomb, He's over there.
Speaker 2: So I long story short, I'm driving twenty hours. I
Speaker 2: get to New York City. Bam.
Speaker 3: I'm on sixth Avenue, York, sixth Ave and third Ave
Speaker 3: where we perform in the village. And it said the daytime.
Speaker 2: So we tired, and.
Speaker 3: I see Wood Harris walking right in front of my
Speaker 3: truck going to class.
Speaker 2: This is a year later. And I hanked my horn
Speaker 2: and would I go. He goes, what the fuck? I go, Yo,
Speaker 2: I'm here, bro, I'm here. He's going to class. Shit.
Speaker 3: And so we keep driving because I'm supposed to my
Speaker 3: managers at the time. I got managers. They're telling me
Speaker 3: guiding me where I should go. They got we got
Speaker 3: you a place.
Speaker 1: Oh that was gonna be my next question, like how
Speaker 1: are you where are you living?
Speaker 3: I'm living at one hundredth in West End because my friend,
Speaker 3: this guy t. K. Kirkland, who's a comic who's gonna
Speaker 3: be on Club Shasha, and a couple of K T
Speaker 3: to the motherfucker K in July.
Speaker 2: You'll see them.
Speaker 3: He got me my manager because I used to open
Speaker 3: up for him in Chicago. He said, you need to
Speaker 3: come to New York. I got some good managers. If
Speaker 3: anybody knows who Anthony Michael Hall is from Breakfast Club,
Speaker 3: the original Breakfast Club, the movie The Little Blonde Kid,
Speaker 3: his pops was my manager, his dad, Tom Chista, David Kleingman.
Speaker 3: They had John Ley Guizamo, Sandra Bullock, they had Mike Apps,
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of people, and I was another added edition.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was like, yeah fresh when you first get
Speaker 1: into New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have managers.
Speaker 3: So then they take me to this apartment complex. It
Speaker 3: was as a four bedroom place. It was all theater people.
Speaker 3: They said, you're gonna meet somebody. They're gonna meet you
Speaker 3: at the door one hundredth in West and so it's
Speaker 3: almost it's like nighttime, eight, nine o'clock whatever. We get
Speaker 3: to the place and Viola Davis opens the door. She's
Speaker 3: at Juilliard. She's at Juilliard at the time, and she goes, hey,
Speaker 3: you're God figure. I go, yeah, I'm Viola Davis.
Speaker 2: My name is Viola.
Speaker 3: I'm at Juilliard right now doing a play called Seven
Speaker 3: Guitar Go. I said, oh cool, all right, my bren
Speaker 3: is my friend Burna Dad. So he's okay, I'll show
Speaker 3: you to your room and stuff, and showed me to
Speaker 3: my room and then we're unpacking our shit.
Speaker 2: Right. So this dude, I guess he's he's an actor too.
Speaker 3: White guy comes out and I'm thinking he must be
Speaker 3: the other roommate. So he's asking me like, Hi, you're
Speaker 3: the new I said, yeah, from Chicago. So he comes
Speaker 3: at me like, so what are you going to be
Speaker 3: doing when you're here? Are you going to be like
Speaker 3: having women? He's just being real crazy with me, I said,
Speaker 3: And I look at Bernadette.
Speaker 2: Is he talking to me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I said, that's none of your fucking business. How
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: You remember, I'm already militant as fuck because in Chicago
Speaker 3: I used to go see Minister Farrakhan live when I
Speaker 3: was eighteen, and I would go to Savior's Day. So
Speaker 3: I'm down with this FOI and the Nation Islam. I'm
Speaker 3: not enjoying them. But I'm I go she farakhon live.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what that guy was thinking when
Speaker 1: you said so.
Speaker 3: I was like, who the fuck are you talking to?
Speaker 3: I said, you can't say hi to me, none of that.
Speaker 3: I said, Oh, I'm not in the mood for that
Speaker 3: white dude shit right now? Racism is like when when
Speaker 3: does it end?
Speaker 2: Is it all the time?
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, I said yeah, man, I said, man,
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of my face.
Speaker 2: Man. I just told him, I said, Yo, get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of my face.
Speaker 3: So he goes, I just right to go, my man,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I don't I'm not in the mood
Speaker 3: for this. I don't know who the fuck you talk
Speaker 3: to that, but I will get in you. I will
Speaker 3: hit you in your jaw. I'm just gonna punch you
Speaker 3: right in the mouth. The fuck out of here. And
Speaker 3: Viola broke us up. Viola broke us up and then
Speaker 3: pulled me to the room. She closed the door.
Speaker 2: I can't make this shit. Oh, she closed the door.
Speaker 2: She goes, you know what it is.
Speaker 3: Right, Viola's always been pro pro black. That's what I
Speaker 3: love about her. She's always been that way. She goes
Speaker 3: you know what it is, right, I said, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: she goes, you come in.
Speaker 2: He was. It was me, his girlfriend and him, so
Speaker 2: he was the white dude of the rule.
Speaker 3: And he goes and here you come, handsome black dude
Speaker 3: coming here, and now he's being threatened. I go, I
Speaker 3: know that white dude shit. That threatening bullshit, and he
Speaker 3: wanted to have everybody. That's what they want. They want
Speaker 3: the black girls and all that. They're the dudes that
Speaker 3: be like, why is he with Why are you with him?
Speaker 3: They actually ask people why are you with us? Want
Speaker 3: me to give you a fucking list.
Speaker 2: I said, the.
Speaker 3: Reason why they with you is because of systematic shit.
Speaker 3: That's why they're with you. You ain't got no game. They
Speaker 3: ain't got no game. Anytime I see one of us,
Speaker 3: go with you because you ain't got no game, or
Speaker 3: they're mad at us.
Speaker 2: You ain't got no game. Saw trauma bro.
Speaker 1: I was telling him that they're mad at us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, black women, Yeah, they're mad at us most of
Speaker 2: the time percent of time.
Speaker 1: I'm t give you that.
Speaker 2: I know it. I give you because I know ones
Speaker 2: that have admitted it. I know it is fed up.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing they said when they get mad.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the oppressor. That's what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go do. And then he opens up. Then he opens
Speaker 3: up and says, calls you a nigga. Now you stuck
Speaker 3: because it happened to Halle Berry, who I love to death.
Speaker 2: Happened to her.
Speaker 3: Her husband called it a n word. But now she
Speaker 3: was stuck. Now she's paying this motherfucker eighteen thousand a month.
Speaker 3: You talking about So I'm just saying, and Halley's with
Speaker 3: Van Hunt.
Speaker 2: Now, which is dope as fuck. I love it.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying though I'm not saying, listen, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying you can't love a person because of who they are.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times it's agenda. Nobody talks about
Speaker 3: that part. Nobody goes there. They just oh, no, it's luck.
Speaker 2: Why can't love me? Like I said, yeah, that's a nice.
Speaker 3: Hallmark card, but keep it one hundred because I know
Speaker 3: people in relationships that have come.
Speaker 2: To me and told me and said, my boyman called
Speaker 2: me a nigga.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, of course he did, what you think.
Speaker 3: Of course he called you that, and now you're stuck.
Speaker 3: Now he called you that because that's how he sees you.
Speaker 3: He's not seeing you your humanity. If he never used that,
Speaker 3: that means he really loves you. But yeah, you've kissed
Speaker 3: him off. That's the true test. That's the true test.
Speaker 2: Now you come to me telling me he said that
Speaker 2: to you, I go, what are you gonna do? I
Speaker 2: noticed shit when Trump was running in twenty twenty. You
Speaker 2: know how many people flipped. They were like, I can't
Speaker 2: believe my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: She's my brother, but I said, you love white women,
Speaker 3: and now she flipping on you.
Speaker 2: Now she talking at Trump. Shit, what do you think
Speaker 2: was gonna happen that? That dynamic is there.
Speaker 3: That's why you got to make sure you ask them questions, man,
Speaker 3: because a lot of times it's fetish she bullshit, and
Speaker 3: they'll play the role just so they can so they
Speaker 3: can be.
Speaker 2: Horizontal with you. But nobody wants to talk about that.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's all facts. So violent pusy into she goes,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What it is, and boom and from there I was cool.
Speaker 3: I stayed there because I had to call my managers
Speaker 3: at the time, all of them. I said, Dave, Tom,
Speaker 3: I'm about to smack the shit out this dude. Oh
Speaker 3: my goodness, and then little old Jewish guys like, don't
Speaker 3: do it, God, listen, don't do anything.
Speaker 2: We're coming over there, all right out.
Speaker 3: And I said, no, man, and Tom is Italian, and
Speaker 3: I said, Dave Man. Dave was, when I tell you,
Speaker 3: the nicest human being one of the night.
Speaker 2: They're all they've passed away ago.
Speaker 3: But Dave, little Jewish guy, one of the smartest men
Speaker 3: I've ever met in my fucking life. He knew about
Speaker 3: the Nigerian civil he knew everything. He was the kindest
Speaker 3: man I've ever literally never said anything crazy out of
Speaker 3: his mouth. Was never like racially, none aside ship. He
Speaker 3: was very honest. Yeah, he never whispered when he said
Speaker 3: the word.
Speaker 2: Black like that.
Speaker 3: He was just very honest and just love it. He's
Speaker 3: just a good dude man, seriously a good guy man.
Speaker 3: And he cared about people and and yeah, man.
Speaker 1: So they talked you off the ledge, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because five minutes in you're you're really coming at me.
Speaker 1: And this is a house that you all got to
Speaker 1: live in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he stayed away after that night.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm almost imagining this is
Speaker 1: like a house like the real world.
Speaker 2: Something like that. But we were gone like I was.
Speaker 1: Everybody was doing their own thing.
Speaker 3: Was headed to Montreal Comedy for that next two days.
Speaker 3: I was gone and Viola was gone. She was doing
Speaker 3: and when I.
Speaker 2: Read her book.
Speaker 3: When I read her book, which is by the way, fabulous,
Speaker 3: she wrote it over to COVID her autobiography, there's a
Speaker 3: part where she's living in New York and a certain
Speaker 3: doing this hurtin plan. I was there at the time,
Speaker 3: and I'm reading, I go. I was around and then
Speaker 3: I see bio. Like three four years ago, I saw
Speaker 3: Viola at the ninety two y there's a ymcre where
Speaker 3: they have a stage they have like interviews with celebrities.
Speaker 2: So I went and paid my money. My friend told me,
Speaker 2: by all, who's going to be at the thing, because
Speaker 2: she's an egoch now she has all the different awards.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna go, and I'm gonna try to meet her. See
Speaker 3: if she remembers me this year's later. And so I
Speaker 3: go and then all the security dudes know me.
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, man, what's good man? Yo? If you
Speaker 2: want to meet her, man, Yo, what got you? I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I want to meet her.
Speaker 3: As soon as I walk in, she goes what's up, roomy?
Speaker 3: As soon as I walk in her and her husband.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just confused. Why did you think she wouldn't remember?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I know. Motherfucker's that dude a
Speaker 2: tampon commercial and act like they don't know me.
Speaker 1: Oh, you got to get a napkin. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to try and oh you use the napkins under.
Speaker 2: The forks, because if you've got a paper child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for now, you're gonna make shift it. Okay,
Speaker 1: makeshift it, make shift it right here.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just do that, lay it out so
Speaker 2: I can it absorbs the oil.
Speaker 1: Are you eventually gonna have to eat with me?
Speaker 2: Okay? I know, I just want to So what are
Speaker 2: you gonna say?
Speaker 1: So you didn't think for you? It's just interesting because
Speaker 1: when you talk about roomies and stuff, it's like such
Speaker 1: a unique it's like a kindred sister brotherhood.
Speaker 3: But our business, this business is full of phonies and
Speaker 3: people when they do when they get a little bit,
Speaker 3: like they say they do a little better than you,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they don't know you.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they're not calling you anymore. And
Speaker 2: you've been through the trenches with people.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even know Violin like that. I didn't
Speaker 3: stay that long. There was there a good half a year.
Speaker 3: I was there for a little bit. And it's not
Speaker 3: like we hung out and ate together.
Speaker 2: No, we're roommates.
Speaker 3: And the fact that when I walked in, she goes,
Speaker 3: what's up, roomy and we started laughing. I got photos
Speaker 3: with it, man, it's amazing. I'll show you after she
Speaker 3: and I goes, do you remember that fight me? And
Speaker 3: she goes, hell, yeah, broken up? She goes, I ended
Speaker 3: up fighting that motherfucker too.
Speaker 2: No way, yep.
Speaker 3: That's funny because he was like his girlfriend and girl
Speaker 3: he was dating at that there were four. She was
Speaker 3: an alcoholic. I think she had passed away. It was
Speaker 3: just a lot of real raggedy shit. So I was
Speaker 3: just running into a he was having problems with his chick.
Speaker 2: He was taking it out on It was just I
Speaker 2: didn't know. But I was just like, who's this.
Speaker 3: Guy talking to I'm like, fucking yeah. So I was
Speaker 3: like one of those dudes. And I was like militant too.
Speaker 3: I'm like and I'm still like that, but I'm not
Speaker 3: even my white friends go, I understand, I said, pro
Speaker 3: black don't mean anti white, brother, pro white means anti black. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I said, I'm not anti white bro. I'm just proud
Speaker 3: of what I am. I'm proud of what the fuck
Speaker 3: I look like. I'm proud of our ship because we're dope.
Speaker 3: You know how I know because you copy us, your
Speaker 3: copy us. Every step you can't live without black people.
Speaker 3: Every TikTok is copying us. You either pop, locking, your
Speaker 3: DJ and your fucking d Everything the lexicon changes because
Speaker 3: of us. Oh that was lit, that's us, that was this,
Speaker 3: that was dope, that's us. Your handshakes as us.
Speaker 2: We bring you in and go, whoa, what up? Man?
Speaker 2: What's good man? You do the same shit as we do.
Speaker 2: You copy us, and then you get mad when we
Speaker 2: ask you where the origin is? The origin is us?
Speaker 2: Now you go, why does it got to be about?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What does it gotta be about?
Speaker 3: It is about that because you don't see us as
Speaker 3: human beings. You see us as some fucking amusement park.
Speaker 3: You were like a Niggaville to you. And we get
Speaker 3: on a ride because we're like a ride to you.
Speaker 2: I'm being like, we're like fun to you. Hey. But
Speaker 2: then when we ask for humanity.
Speaker 3: Now, oh no, Now you guys just want to so
Speaker 3: you just want product from us, and we can't receive humanity.
Speaker 2: We're asking for humanity. You're making billions.
Speaker 3: Off of black culture. You want to talk about basketball
Speaker 3: for but you want to talk about all that shit.
Speaker 3: We're the ones changing the culture, not you.
Speaker 2: So do you.
Speaker 1: Think by any chance that you being quote unquote pro
Speaker 1: black the reputation of militant? Sorry about these mics.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: It's the way we designed the table.
Speaker 2: It's not being pro blacklat Do you think.
Speaker 1: At times that that has hindered you?
Speaker 3: I guess though, But I just think me being black
Speaker 3: has hindered me because beans and rice.
Speaker 2: I think that being black has hindered me because there's
Speaker 2: just racist.
Speaker 3: Because there's black people. I think there's they choose. We're
Speaker 3: like action figures. They choose what they want to be
Speaker 3: played with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that to me. There's such
Speaker 1: thing as the quote unquote safe black.
Speaker 2: There's the safe black.
Speaker 3: One day, I did a whole thing where I watched
Speaker 3: a whole like a couple of hours of safe Black
Speaker 3: people on TV.
Speaker 2: There was a thing a Safe Negro Day. It was
Speaker 2: my safe Negro day?
Speaker 1: Is that a thing for real?
Speaker 2: No? I just for myself. I said, I want to
Speaker 2: watch these black people that work all the time. I
Speaker 2: want to see what the difference was.
Speaker 3: I go, Wow, maw, chicken, you guys are fucking safe.
Speaker 2: God damn.
Speaker 3: Who like Denzel I relate to fishmur and I relate
Speaker 3: to Samuel Jackson.
Speaker 2: I relate to because they talk their shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I relate to them because they balance it out. They'll
Speaker 3: say stuff, but in a certain way. But I don't
Speaker 3: fuck with the people that just never say anything about anything.
Speaker 1: But have you seen it on the behind the scenes?
Speaker 1: It hinder you.
Speaker 2: I don't think no, because I don't go around doing that.
Speaker 1: Hook it up.
Speaker 2: I don't go around doing that.
Speaker 3: Every You're asking me a question and I'm just, but
Speaker 3: I don't go around. I don't treat people wrong. I'm
Speaker 3: very nice to people. I'm very because I love myself.
Speaker 3: When you have knowledge of self, when you love yourself,
Speaker 3: you treat people. You emanate the same thing. I hurt people.
Speaker 3: Hurt people, man. I don't treat people. My friends that
Speaker 3: are white men, I treat them.
Speaker 2: I care about them. I've had my friends drunk white
Speaker 2: One of my best buddies.
Speaker 3: Chad white dude drink a lot, all kinds of shit
Speaker 3: him out of all his stupid man.
Speaker 2: I got him the exercise because I care about him.
Speaker 2: Many I don't care. But the problem is the people
Speaker 2: who cause the oppression get mad when you're just trying
Speaker 2: to find a little dignity in yourself. They find it
Speaker 2: as a threat.
Speaker 1: That's weird, I think, just the mere acknowledgement of it,
Speaker 1: because goes through it. Now, let's judge your food. Let's
Speaker 1: judge it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see it.
Speaker 1: Did you flavor of the beans at all?
Speaker 2: But garlic and salt on it? Not bad? It's good, right,
Speaker 2: I like, not bad, not bad for a brokeness, I know, broke.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, let's trust your wings broke.
Speaker 2: Clean, crunch, eat and good ad. That's right. I didn't
Speaker 2: go crazy with the seizing, but I like it crunchy.
Speaker 1: Impressed with the crunch though, I love it crunching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how you did it. You did
Speaker 1: a really good job. How did you do that? Do
Speaker 1: you like the soft inside? That's the boiling?
Speaker 2: That's good? Yes? How much of that is? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with the crust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the crunch?
Speaker 1: How would you do that? High heat? Tell me there's
Speaker 1: some there's some listener out there like just jar. I
Speaker 1: know it's olive oil, But how did you get the crunch?
Speaker 2: Is it the cover? Yeah, it's just yeah, the cover.
Speaker 2: You leave it there for longer than you expect. Hold
Speaker 2: on you watch it. Great crush. You did better than
Speaker 2: a sauce boy who.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The crust is thoroughly impressive because
Speaker 1: I've never had a crush. I've never been able to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, okay, good, good job.
Speaker 2: Down and it's something you can eat.
Speaker 1: No, you don't eat like this now sometimes Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he's like that.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, they never going down style see it. That's
Speaker 2: a good combination too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is just so you know. This is
Speaker 1: a great lunch. Did you have lunch yet?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 1: Sweat right off the plane in the kitchen, in the
Speaker 1: kitchen sweating. Now when you see all these people that
Speaker 1: you were grew up basically we're in the trenches. But yeah,
Speaker 1: some of them hit the move. How does that? How
Speaker 1: do you deal with knowing that these people were your
Speaker 1: running mates and some of them have surpassed some of
Speaker 1: them may.
Speaker 3: Not have I'm happy for a lot of people, especially
Speaker 3: when they've worked hard. There's some people that go how
Speaker 3: but you could just be friends with the right person.
Speaker 2: It's all kinds of factors.
Speaker 1: So you but you do have that moment of because
Speaker 1: you deal with I'm like, shure.
Speaker 2: How you get that. That's normal. But there's healthy competition,
Speaker 2: there's inspiration.
Speaker 3: But then there's people that get to a level and
Speaker 3: there are pieces of ship George, the people that came
Speaker 3: up and I go, oh, I fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't play that shit. Ye I get anywhere.
Speaker 3: I don't even let it get to me like that
Speaker 3: because it's okay, that's great, but this is transient.
Speaker 2: It comes up and goes up and down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be able. If I in a position,
Speaker 3: I want to bring my friends with me. Man, get
Speaker 3: that guy or that girl.
Speaker 2: She's been working. I want that.
Speaker 3: But a lot of people will pull the ladder up
Speaker 3: and not want anybody to come up, which is insane
Speaker 3: to me, because you got up there through the help
Speaker 3: of others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you come off that way. When I first met you,
Speaker 1: of course, everyone knows who you are and you walk
Speaker 1: in the room, we know who you are. But the
Speaker 1: fact that you're so approachable and oh yeah, sure, here's
Speaker 1: my number, let's set it up. I just want everyone
Speaker 1: out there to know that, Okay, without cameras, without anything,
Speaker 1: completely who you say you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just easier. I'm going to be two people.
Speaker 2: It's hard to be in your so you wanna be
Speaker 2: another motherfucker?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like corny, and I've seen it, like unless
Speaker 3: something tragic happens to you and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: You found your humanity, Like why did that? What it took?
Speaker 2: It took a brick to hit you in the head
Speaker 2: from a building like home with that.
Speaker 1: But now it's so funny because I met someone that
Speaker 1: did that day, like went through I don't know, cans,
Speaker 1: scar something. Everywhere they went. They had the preach of
Speaker 1: Jesus before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not perfect, don't get me wrong. Someone
Speaker 2: approached me crazy. I go, you talking to you?
Speaker 1: You're a typical New Yorker in my book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yo, why are you talking to me
Speaker 3: like that? Why are you talking disrespectful me? I don't
Speaker 3: come in disrespectful.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm very nice to.
Speaker 3: People because my parents taught me that you'd be nice
Speaker 3: to be, but you don't let anybody push you over either.
Speaker 2: You stand your ground. I balance it out. Yo.
Speaker 3: You talk to me crazy, but for fuck you back
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, I'm the asshole. You'll go, Yo,
Speaker 3: that got godfe his asshole. But you didn't tell you're
Speaker 3: part of the story. You forgot, you left that out.
Speaker 3: You were a piece of shit, And I answered you back,
Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So I but I but most of the time, everything
Speaker 3: is good, man, keep environment. I like to work like
Speaker 3: I just did my grace of God, give my my
Speaker 3: Comedy Central special. Take Comedy Special at the Apollo Theater.
Speaker 3: I just have really wonderful people raise Rachel Frasier, Amanda I, Dias, Kimberly,
Speaker 3: got just.
Speaker 2: A whole cruel women that just got it done.
Speaker 3: I got. I shot it last Thursday. I shot it
Speaker 3: on June twelfth. I shot two shows, sold out and
Speaker 3: we shot it and were and I cannot I'm looking
Speaker 3: so forward. It was so great because I've been seven
Speaker 3: years over due to shoot my next special. Because some
Speaker 3: of these networks have ignored a lot of comedians for
Speaker 3: some reason.
Speaker 2: Because you noticed that always picked the same old people.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there the way of selection. Some
Speaker 1: of these comics, I just some of them are like
Speaker 1: I just go yeah. I'm like, but backtrack just a
Speaker 1: little bit because there's a question. You let it there.
Speaker 1: But what was that point in your career where you
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, this is I'm picking up a pace
Speaker 1: or I'm a ride.
Speaker 2: Book seven Up. After Orlandel Jones he was a spokesperson
Speaker 2: for seven Up.
Speaker 3: As a second guy after him, I was like, okay, shit,
Speaker 3: I got I'm a spokesperson for an American product. I
Speaker 3: always wanted to that. You got the progressive lady, you
Speaker 3: got Jake, Jake from State.
Speaker 1: Consistent.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is alright.
Speaker 3: I'm doing stuff on MTV because seven up is sponsoring MTV.
Speaker 2: I'm doing spring Break.
Speaker 3: I was like, hell, I was in the culture the
Speaker 3: top culture like, I'm on MTV with Carson Daily.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? I said.
Speaker 3: I didn't think, oh, this is it. I just thought
Speaker 3: this is a stepping stone, this is great.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it's gonna last forever that this is.
Speaker 3: But this guy named rod Asa, who was running MTV
Speaker 3: I will never forget, and he looked out for me.
Speaker 2: He said, I love you are talented. I want you
Speaker 2: part of MTV. I'm looking for that guy. He was
Speaker 2: so good to me. He got me on two seasons.
Speaker 2: I hosted the spring Break. Then I did stuff, talking
Speaker 2: head stuff on MTV in the eighties. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It just merged and I was in the mix.
Speaker 3: I wasn't getting paid a gang of loop, but I
Speaker 3: was just happy to be in the culture.
Speaker 1: But you were, and you were but at this time
Speaker 1: doing comedy. And there's no side jobs because I haven't
Speaker 1: heard but the whole New York journey, I haven't heard
Speaker 1: any sign No.
Speaker 2: I never have one. I had jobs in Chicago out
Speaker 2: of college.
Speaker 3: I was at the grocery store when me and my
Speaker 3: brother and my sister were all grocery store kids.
Speaker 2: My sister did the register when she was in college.
Speaker 2: My brother did inventory. He stayed in the grocery business
Speaker 2: for twenty years. I did produce.
Speaker 3: I worked in produce, inventory, bagging groceries since I was fifteen.
Speaker 3: I worked at furniture stores in college when I was
Speaker 3: playing football and everything. They got us summer jobs. I
Speaker 3: was doing construction shit. I was doing telemarketing shit. I
Speaker 3: did jobs man, I had jobs, but in New York
Speaker 3: I never had a job again now but busted my
Speaker 3: ass and gigs, slept on cultures.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what you did, my man, did you did
Speaker 1: you say before coming though?
Speaker 2: Not really? I had gigs though.
Speaker 1: And to go back with your parents, To go back
Speaker 1: to the conversation with your parents. Are you calling bluff?
Speaker 1: Are you lying? Are you like? Oh, everything's great?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I said I'm making it and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I don't have all the money in the world,
Speaker 3: but I'm on a couch, but I'm getting gigs, doing
Speaker 3: the urban circuit.
Speaker 2: I was getting money cash in my pocket.
Speaker 1: And were they in sorry, were they in support of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was a survival thing and you are you surviving? Okay?
Speaker 2: And then when they see I was getting things here
Speaker 2: and there.
Speaker 1: They start seeing you on TV.
Speaker 3: Oh man, When I was talking about my dad on TV,
Speaker 3: that was one of my most famous jokes.
Speaker 2: Like everybody was calling my father. My father was like,
Speaker 2: I like this commity thing. This is really good because
Speaker 2: he loved anything.
Speaker 3: He's very Really he's a comedian, I said, Dad Cosby
Speaker 3: is not Doctor Huxtable.
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby is a comedian Jerry Sipo is a comedian.
Speaker 2: They're a comedian. He was like, oh, this is good
Speaker 2: because I was surviving. He said, yeah, if you were
Speaker 2: like in Psychiago, one would know you. This is good.
Speaker 2: He loved that.
Speaker 1: Now, did your parents did anyone catch on early on
Speaker 1: of your impersonations and all that I used.
Speaker 2: To do muhama leave when I was living, Nobody really
Speaker 2: thought about it.
Speaker 3: I didn't really do impersonations a lot until later on
Speaker 3: in my career because my manager told me, the guy
Speaker 3: that the little Jewish guy, David Klingman, he told me,
Speaker 3: don't do your impersonations right away. Make sure you build
Speaker 3: your material, and then when you bring in your your impersonations,
Speaker 3: it'll add to the arsenal. He was right, He was
Speaker 3: right on point. He said, don't do it too much
Speaker 3: because you look corny.
Speaker 1: But they knew about it.
Speaker 2: Everyone. Oh yeah, I could do accents that your languages quickly.
Speaker 2: I can just spit it back at you.
Speaker 3: And I was good at in mimicking people, so I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'll save it. So then when I
Speaker 3: got I don't even have to do impersonation. Some guys
Speaker 3: have to do an impersonation.
Speaker 1: So you built up your talent in this other area
Speaker 1: because he already knew you were strong in this.
Speaker 2: Other And during COVID is where everybody was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know you could do all them voice.
Speaker 3: I said, I was never on a TV show. SNL
Speaker 3: rejected me. I didn't get on Mad TV. No, So
Speaker 3: all the sketch shows never picked me for so it
Speaker 3: was what it was. But yeah, so I said, now
Speaker 3: we got this thing called the phone, and social media
Speaker 3: has changed the game.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody fucking with TV?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: There're more phones than people.
Speaker 3: And I was watching Dame Dash on a live during
Speaker 3: COVID and his friend is you don't have that, you
Speaker 3: have the box.
Speaker 2: And his friend's talking and was like, Yo, so what
Speaker 2: you're gonna do? Man? During COVID he said, Man, what
Speaker 2: you think I'm gonna do? Man?
Speaker 3: We gotta create? Man, Fuck that man, everybody is sitting
Speaker 3: at home doing nothing. He said, if you're an artist
Speaker 3: and you ain't creating, you stupid. And I said, okay,
Speaker 3: got it. And I just said, let me turn this
Speaker 3: phone on. It's doing Steve.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell you this right now. Steve Harvey
Speaker 2: five Top five answers on the board. Here's the question
Speaker 2: I was on it Trump. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: the very good show. It's show great. Can you believe it?
Speaker 2: We're here cooking because I'm broke. I've never been broke,
Speaker 2: So she's broke, but I'm not broke. But it's a
Speaker 2: good show. I'm very proud to be about this show.
Speaker 2: A lot of people that are broke because of my presidency.
Speaker 2: I'm all about money.
Speaker 1: So all right, you got to do one Jay though,
Speaker 1: jay Z.
Speaker 2: Everyone does Z crazy Yo. Yo, it's over, Yo, it's
Speaker 2: over because I'm eating. Well, I'm broke because it ain't
Speaker 2: no joke.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, yo, making the chicken, Oh the shit, his
Speaker 3: finger licked, got the platinum in the rice.
Speaker 2: Everything nice.
Speaker 1: So you did that and that Now you're killing social
Speaker 1: media too. How does that make you feel though? To
Speaker 1: be able to dominate, to just literally pick up on
Speaker 1: a platform.
Speaker 2: And and now I want to give a shout out to
Speaker 2: King Batch, Renny D Storm and his.
Speaker 1: Crew, a good friend of mine by oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah on the social media people that I did sketches
Speaker 3: with that went viral as ship, thank you for letting
Speaker 3: me into your world.
Speaker 2: Join me. How you guys can share and everybody can win. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not my era. My era was everybody hog up
Speaker 2: everything insecurity and all that.
Speaker 3: I'm just keeping in one hundred. But they were like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is what we do. Get in a sketch, get
Speaker 3: in with us. They're all eating.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: How did you meet that group?
Speaker 3: Through Rennie who looks like me and he's a Haitian
Speaker 3: kid out of Queen's We started doing stepfather son shit
Speaker 3: and that went viral and then I said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I want to link up with King Batch.
Speaker 2: He called Batch, came to New York.
Speaker 3: We did a sketch Safari was there were in the
Speaker 3: hotel room Hotel Knickerbocker. Batch goes, Yo, I'm in New York.
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, I'm coming over there. So the one
Speaker 3: of the most famous sketches I did with them was
Speaker 3: the Noisy neighbor joint. I come in, I go, yo,
Speaker 3: could you keep it down? I come back, Yo, who's showering?
Speaker 2: Man? Turns the shower down it. Then I come in again.
Speaker 2: I go, yo, who's doodoing? Yoyo?
Speaker 3: Doodoos is mad loud man, they're splashing, man, Yo, let
Speaker 3: the duodos hit the side of the bowl.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to sleep Man, Your dudos was mad heavy yo.
Speaker 3: When I did that, sketch made it up ten minutes.
Speaker 3: We shot it the next day. This is one thing
Speaker 3: about New York when when city workers stop you, that's
Speaker 3: when you know you're doing well. They don't give a
Speaker 3: fuck about nobody. These niggas in a garbage truck like, yo,
Speaker 3: my men, your doodles is mad loud baby, And I
Speaker 3: was like what, And I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, you're talking, Mike Goes, nigga.
Speaker 3: You don't know your ship's firing on Facebook, son, we
Speaker 3: crying right now.
Speaker 2: And then bus drivers like you want to run, yo,
Speaker 2: Your doodoles is mad loud baby.
Speaker 3: And that's when I knew, God, damn, I'm reaching everybody.
Speaker 3: This is international too. And when I was doing another schedule,
Speaker 3: King Batch and his crew we were in Times Square.
Speaker 3: There were people from all over the world going, King Badge,
Speaker 3: I watch all yours and I knew. I said, oh,
Speaker 3: this is it, so King Batch is good. It's one
Speaker 3: of my little bros, King Badges, my little bro. Renny's
Speaker 3: my little bro.
Speaker 2: So I fucked with them.
Speaker 3: They really really got it. They guided me very well.
Speaker 3: They guided me to to the utmost. I always thank
Speaker 3: them for that too, and and I and I, and
Speaker 3: it's my it's a new point of relevance now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that's what That's what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: for you to dominate on the stage, for you to dominate.
Speaker 3: And in social media and podcasting, and yeah, man, Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan changed the game. Joe Budden's changing the game. Charlotte
Speaker 3: Mayne's changing the game. Yeah, Andrews. A lot of these
Speaker 3: guys changing the game. And Bill Urd with his pocket.
Speaker 3: It's just it's Mark Maren.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did Marens twice. I did his podcast.
Speaker 1: I love Mark Maron.
Speaker 3: And I know Mark. I started out knowing Mark. When
Speaker 3: I first got to New York. I was always on
Speaker 3: the same lineup as Mark Maren. Yeah, with all his
Speaker 3: sarcasm is yeah, I started out with Mark Maron.
Speaker 2: I shot a pilot with Mark Maren. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, his interviews on this show is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: He was very vulnerable, like very good.
Speaker 2: He's been through something.
Speaker 1: He's been through stuff, but to take the time and
Speaker 1: really opened up.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a favorite.
Speaker 1: Even though his fans are brutal.
Speaker 2: They're brutal. Ship Mark's brutal, very critical the bank. They
Speaker 2: was like they were going off on.
Speaker 1: Him, They're going off more on me.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: People find the reason to complain.
Speaker 2: Sometimes welcome, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 3: So I've been through just being at Bernie Max Club.
Speaker 3: I started at Bernie Max Club also as a soloist.
Speaker 3: I was on I lived on the North side of Chicago.
Speaker 3: You know the different sides of Chicago, Sights, south side.
Speaker 3: I was on the North side and I would go
Speaker 3: this Bernie Max Club. Bernie Mack had open mic on Monday's,
Speaker 3: a variety show, and I would go there with my boy,
Speaker 3: Evan Lionel, who actually changed Bernie Max's life. He's the
Speaker 3: reason why Bernie became what he was because of Evan Lionel,
Speaker 3: my big brother. So it was me Dion call Us
Speaker 3: d ray De Office would go to Scotton Club. That's
Speaker 3: how I met Mike Epps and Cedric entertainer, Bertie Mack.
Speaker 3: Bernie I knew Bernie Man, knew Bernie knew him, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So before he got yeah, when
Speaker 3: he was deaf, jam, I ain't afraid of you. Motherfucker's
Speaker 3: that that was when I was around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, so you've had an incredible journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, crazy Simbat and new Simbad's too bad with
Speaker 3: happened to sin Bad?
Speaker 1: I like to see him. I liked that he was
Speaker 1: in the Straw movie recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's good. Did you see Straw by the way,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. You liked it?
Speaker 1: I loved it, and I'm not. I haven Tyler Perry,
Speaker 1: but the way that was. I knew this when I
Speaker 1: saw the promos. It rarely airmark a date mentally for
Speaker 1: anything television, but I was like, June sixth, June six,
Speaker 1: June six, Taraji is great. But the writing on it.
Speaker 1: When I said I didn't see the ending coming, I said, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I gotta watch it because I did Tyler
Speaker 3: Perry film last year with Tika Sumter. It's called Sisters
Speaker 3: in Italy. It's coming out at some point, met on Netflix, whatever.
Speaker 3: It's a rom com. So I played boyfriend at Dumpster.
Speaker 3: I'm dark skin villain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Tyler. It was fantastic. He was
Speaker 2: treated me great. I asked everybody I was on his studio,
Speaker 2: that massive studio. I asked everybody, what's it like work,
Speaker 2: like he's amazing, like the.
Speaker 1: Stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's great. It's fun. We had fun. I had fun. Man,
Speaker 2: he paid me nice. I was like, when am I?
Speaker 2: When do I need to show up? I was it
Speaker 2: was fun. It's a comedy. Yeah, I did what I
Speaker 2: did my comedy. He and he was like, you know
Speaker 2: how it work? Hard work?
Speaker 3: I go yeah, because he goes, oh fast, we're moving on, dude.
Speaker 1: They told me they shot Straw on seven days. I
Speaker 1: said seven days and they said me.
Speaker 2: Like this, thank you all right for real?
Speaker 3: Because but the beautiful thing is with comedy, I can
Speaker 3: do that shit in my sleep. So he would be like,
Speaker 3: because the first scene was I'm going to a funeral Antika.
Speaker 2: I'm in the car with Tika, and I'm like, she's
Speaker 2: like a real straight laced and her sister's emotional. She's not.
Speaker 2: And I'm a boyfriend and I go.
Speaker 3: So we're going to this funeral and Tyler's driving the
Speaker 3: car and directing us in the cameras. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: cry there crying your mother because WHOOPI Goldberg, isn't it
Speaker 3: your mother?
Speaker 2: You're not?
Speaker 3: I think, she goes, what do you mean cry? Has
Speaker 3: it nothing? Just try just go squeeze your like, try
Speaker 3: just squeak. I'm trying to tell her how to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm like this, you gotta be like and Tyler's keep going.
Speaker 2: So we're inner.
Speaker 1: Were why he's driving a car?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes there, you go keep going. Now do that? Now,
Speaker 2: now stop that. Do that. He's driving and directing at
Speaker 2: the same time. We do it and we have It
Speaker 2: was fun.
Speaker 1: There was no pressure under that.
Speaker 2: Type of I didn't.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you just you're here action,
Speaker 3: you gonna do it, even sometimes the fear is there.
Speaker 2: You've been doing it long enough, you go bam.
Speaker 3: And he was so just chill man, He's just like, yo, ready,
Speaker 3: you know how I do it.
Speaker 2: He was funy ship and I'm like, dude's cool. It's yea.
Speaker 3: And then the scene I do where I'm breaking up
Speaker 3: with her, there's a funeral scene that's funny as hell,
Speaker 3: and I think it's he works fast and he paid me,
Speaker 3: treated me well, gift baskets.
Speaker 2: We're all. Everybody was chilling.
Speaker 1: I you sign up for the next one, and I said, hey.
Speaker 3: Man, hope to work with you again. He goes, oh, no,
Speaker 3: you will. That was fantastic. I said, thank you man.
Speaker 2: You know, hey man, it was cool man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I heard an amazing story and I was.
Speaker 3: Doing what I love to do, comedy. I was having fun.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no weird ship. It was just me being
Speaker 3: a quirky ass boy. And he even said it was funny.
Speaker 2: As they go, hey man, we're gonna have to take
Speaker 2: out the line in your head. We don't want you
Speaker 2: to look too cool. You look too cool. You gotta
Speaker 2: be a little bit quirky. They're like, you look too
Speaker 2: Did you do what you did? Yeah, they just did
Speaker 2: a little making.
Speaker 1: I like the line you said.
Speaker 2: You look too fly? I go, what you look too fly? Okay?
Speaker 2: So I was like, I have to break up. I
Speaker 2: just can't. It's just I just can't. I can't go.
Speaker 2: That was one of those he goes, you bring it
Speaker 2: up with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but you know what, now that
Speaker 1: you do the role, I can see why the line
Speaker 1: had the second you said, yeah, that's nothing, that's nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah man, that's like I said.
Speaker 3: I just like when I'm talking about my milities, I'm
Speaker 3: not doing anything to rule. I want to who doesn't
Speaker 3: want to put food on the table around I want
Speaker 3: to be successful, to be successful being treated like a
Speaker 3: human being?
Speaker 2: I want to Why can't I like myself? Why is
Speaker 2: it a threat to you that I like myself? That's weird?
Speaker 3: You're savage? Why can't a woman be like I don't
Speaker 3: want to be over sexualized? Why can't I make it
Speaker 3: out you touching me?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3: Now you're mad because you don't want her to She
Speaker 3: don't want to take her pants in front of people.
Speaker 2: That's insane to me. That's insanity to me.
Speaker 3: Why can't you have a sex scene where we know
Speaker 3: they had sex, close the door, and then we go
Speaker 3: to the next scene. Why do they gotta be they're
Speaker 3: kissing little normal, little shit? But why does it got.
Speaker 2: To be right? Why?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't understand. I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 2: watched Born Hill because but I know what it's for.
Speaker 3: But why, I'm just you know, why if a woman's
Speaker 3: asking for a humanity?
Speaker 2: What is wrong with that? Why are you upset that
Speaker 2: she don't want you to treat her like shit? I
Speaker 2: just hush.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be But let's talk specials. Yes, let's get
Speaker 1: into the lane of specials. Yes, first special to the
Speaker 1: specials Now.
Speaker 3: My first special was I did a half hour special
Speaker 3: I did. It started off with Comedy Central Premium Blend.
Speaker 3: That was a really good series where you do seven
Speaker 3: to ten minutes. And Tommy Davison was my.
Speaker 2: Host, which is so. I saw him in college and
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was going to be my host.
Speaker 2: And when he saw him, he goes, yo, I was
Speaker 2: in your college camp. I said, yeah, I'm doing comedy now.
Speaker 2: He said OK.
Speaker 3: He is so supportive. So then there was that. Then
Speaker 3: I did a half hour special. Comedy Central was treating
Speaker 3: me really well, and then.
Speaker 2: There was a per lady producer that was really liked
Speaker 2: me and got me in. That was great. And then
Speaker 2: I did my first hour special was Comedy Central.
Speaker 3: It was called Black by Accident. I was twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: then it was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: I did one called regular Black because that's what they called.
Speaker 3: Me when my friends found out I was Nigeria. And
Speaker 3: it's like, we thought you were regular black.
Speaker 2: So I did that sounds like such a thing.
Speaker 1: Black people was saying, I.
Speaker 3: Thought you was like regular black, like you like niggle, right, Nigeria,
Speaker 3: it's only one g in that but and it's soft,
Speaker 3: so yeah that and then I just shot my like
Speaker 3: my third one finally seven years later, which was long wait,
Speaker 3: but I did Tiffany Hattish's They Ready second season that
Speaker 3: she got me in on the little Netflix thing. Shout
Speaker 3: out to my little sister Tony Hattish, and I just
Speaker 3: shot at the Apollo through.
Speaker 2: Donations through will I Am Will.
Speaker 3: I Am as one of the major donators, they gave
Speaker 3: me money. Who was a big fan from Black Eyed
Speaker 3: Peas Shack is the one that kicked me, called me
Speaker 3: and said.
Speaker 2: It's time for you to do the show Man. You've
Speaker 2: been waiting too long, but you needn't do special right.
Speaker 3: Shaq kicked me off my butt and said you gotta
Speaker 3: start doing go and do it.
Speaker 1: Also, so how did you end up raising the money
Speaker 1: to do it?
Speaker 2: I raised the money from fans like another fan like.
Speaker 1: You were just open about it.
Speaker 3: I just said, hey man, and my fans said, once
Speaker 3: you start to go fund me they told me so.
Speaker 3: I raised them a fifty grand wow. And from there they.
Speaker 2: Said, we're going to send you my head, all right.
Speaker 2: I don't ask people for shit.
Speaker 3: Then through my cash app from just doing stuff online.
Speaker 3: From that my friends. They was, well, I am a
Speaker 3: big donation. I was like, what, he don't even remember
Speaker 3: giving me the money. That's how much money?
Speaker 2: He asked.
Speaker 3: I did no, I'm good, damn so I am rich.
Speaker 1: So now that you tape it, what's the next one.
Speaker 2: I had another guy, Rodrigo, big time.
Speaker 3: He was a venture capitalist, paid me a boatload of
Speaker 3: money and we got it done and I chose the
Speaker 3: Apollo and did two shows and it.
Speaker 2: Was fantastic and all of the cheering was real. It
Speaker 2: wasn't fake. I love that, and the jokes were hitting.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was the standing ovation. Everything was just not forced.
Speaker 3: It was and they were and I felt how happy
Speaker 3: they were for me. That's what I felt.
Speaker 2: They were like, it's about fucking time.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt good.
Speaker 1: So where do people watch it?
Speaker 2: I don't know yet. We're now we got to edit
Speaker 2: it down and prepare it.
Speaker 3: So the good thing is I got it and I
Speaker 3: will definitely be letting.
Speaker 2: I'll be on outlets.
Speaker 1: But now, do you at least know a timeline?
Speaker 2: I would say that I don't know. I don't, I
Speaker 2: really don't.
Speaker 3: I will definitely be announcing it, though, because I don't
Speaker 3: want to say something.
Speaker 2: Lying and move.
Speaker 1: I saw that you were taping it. Yeah, but now,
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that it would be within the next
Speaker 1: six months.
Speaker 2: I would think sothing.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, So this episode will drop. We're going
Speaker 1: to try and drop it alongside. So the promos heavy.
Speaker 2: That's great. Cool, but yeah, and.
Speaker 1: What can people expect when checking out the smissa, what's
Speaker 1: the name of it? Have you come up with the
Speaker 1: name of it? No, that's what's always Yeah.
Speaker 2: Our current know what it's all about. Live We've been
Speaker 2: lied to.
Speaker 3: It's all about being lied to about capitalism, and we
Speaker 3: lie to make money.
Speaker 2: It's all money and lies. It's called that's what's This
Speaker 2: theme is that I stopped believing in a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: And it's an hour said.
Speaker 2: The first show was our ten, the second was our forty.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it depends what you cause, maybe I'll do Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. And then, just while we're talking about
Speaker 1: this stuff, how do you feel about the state of
Speaker 1: some of these specials on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are trash.
Speaker 3: Yeah too, because not because there's a hater thing, but
Speaker 3: as a critic a critique.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are on there that are not ready.
Speaker 2: You can see it. They're not prepared for that. But
Speaker 2: I do think that not like the Chappelle's who know
Speaker 2: what you're doing, Bill Burdos what he's doing.
Speaker 1: But those are real comics that have been like George they.
Speaker 2: All know what they're doing, Blunell ever Quit. They know
Speaker 2: what they're doing. They have the time, they have the hours. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they have the stage time. But there's a lot that
Speaker 2: I go, what am I watching? Yeah, this is insane.
Speaker 1: That I've had somewhere I can't even make it past.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, there's one in particular that
Speaker 1: really stands out. Not going to say the person's name.
Speaker 1: It was so bad that I, when I say, was
Speaker 1: forcing myself and still couldn't make it till their minute
Speaker 1: thirty and then but the hype around them, because of
Speaker 1: the world we live in was like still hype. I
Speaker 1: was very confused. But I think that the more Netflix
Speaker 1: does these wax specials, the less I'm me personally. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not clicking on it anymore. Yea, even when I hear,
Speaker 1: especially if I hear the buzz online and I've done
Speaker 1: it again and another comic not saying names, who is
Speaker 1: really huge right now. People love them, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like no, And that's why I'm like, maybe it's me,
Speaker 1: but I just don't see it. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it's also TV. Sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 3: When you have a machine behind you, they can get
Speaker 3: anybody to believe.
Speaker 2: I forgot what the name is called. It's not called
Speaker 2: Softis Street.
Speaker 3: There's a name where you can talk and where you
Speaker 3: can lie and make it believable. If you keep talking
Speaker 3: about something enough, I believe it for it. There's a
Speaker 3: name that what it's called.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so or it's just if
Speaker 1: they have a show or some pick up on social
Speaker 1: media automatically.
Speaker 3: Behind you, bringing everybody you can sell. What is they
Speaker 3: even sell water? You can sell water to a fish.
Speaker 3: You do it the right way. Yeah, But I go
Speaker 3: and I watch, and I go as a purist, as
Speaker 3: a community purist.
Speaker 2: And people that I know that deserve, I go, what
Speaker 2: what is? What the fuck are we watching? What are
Speaker 2: we watching?
Speaker 1: That's me?
Speaker 3: I know it's numbers. I get that, of course, I
Speaker 3: know it's the numbers. Yeah, it's a business. But you
Speaker 3: put up somebody that's whack. Why don't you put somebody
Speaker 3: that's funny because people will go, oh, to just see this.
Speaker 3: It'll be because comedy, I believe has to be done
Speaker 3: properly for people to want to see that.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think personally that the real comics are going to
Speaker 1: have to start staying away from Netflix. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to say why, because I feel like Netflix. Companies like
Speaker 1: Netflix are starting to produce really whack specials and it's
Speaker 1: almost going to become unless you like I know now,
Speaker 1: unless I know that comic, I'm not trying them out
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna try them out first on Netflix
Speaker 1: only because Netflix has delivered so many bad especially are
Speaker 1: and this is a non comic saying like a regular
Speaker 1: person saying I've seen too many. Out of ten specials,
Speaker 1: of two of them are decent, decent you're giving yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's some comics that, for whatever reason, are
Speaker 1: to me better in person than they are on specials.
Speaker 2: Right, here's another thing.
Speaker 3: I give people a little bit of a pass when
Speaker 3: it comes to specials. I give people a little bit
Speaker 3: of a pass because the anxiety when you're trying to
Speaker 3: shoot one is and I'm glad that because people like
Speaker 3: the build up to my special was it's just a
Speaker 3: lot of stress. But because people are so much more
Speaker 3: excited than you are, They're like, yo, man, we come
Speaker 3: into my sister.
Speaker 2: Flu and my brother flew and my cousin's fluid.
Speaker 1: And people are getting dressed in the nine, so they're.
Speaker 3: Coming and hyped, and I gotta go, this is just
Speaker 3: a set I'm doing. This is the same set I've
Speaker 3: been doing. But I got decorations on the stage. Now,
Speaker 3: now there's a thing behind me. But it's the same
Speaker 3: shit I've been doing. So I had to take it
Speaker 3: like this is just another set. But it was a
Speaker 3: lot though.
Speaker 2: It was yo, and I was doing Hot ninety seven,
Speaker 2: I was doing all the radio shows. How do you
Speaker 2: think I'm good? Man, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I was just like in my head because you want,
Speaker 3: because you want to make sure all the technical shit
Speaker 3: is right, because you do the rehearsals.
Speaker 2: I gotta do rehearsal for these jokes. I've been telling
Speaker 2: for the best, So you gotta do to make sure
Speaker 2: the cameras are right. Got to make sure nothing goes wrong, please,
Speaker 2: nothing go wrong.
Speaker 3: And everything went pretty goddamn smooth, and it was all
Speaker 3: and popping.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm proud of it. Man and my camera dudes,
Speaker 3: oh my photography. Oh just everybody was just killing it.
Speaker 3: Man and Ralph Carter from Good Times, we played Michael.
Speaker 2: There was Good Times. Yeah, barely Mike, But there's Michael,
Speaker 2: little kid. He came by. He's a Brooklyn guy. He
Speaker 2: came backstage and it was just so cool. He came by.
Speaker 2: I go, we grew up on you. Man.
Speaker 3: You were a kid performer. You weren't Raisin in the
Speaker 3: sun as a kid. Like they don't understand. You're a
Speaker 3: fucking icon. Fuck what you heard? You are a.
Speaker 2: Premicon and you came to see me. And he goes, hey,
Speaker 2: can I stay for the second show? I go, what
Speaker 2: you know? What fuck you want? We having good times
Speaker 2: right now. But he went to high school. Knew went
Speaker 2: to grade school with Larry Fishburn. Oh wow, throw both
Speaker 2: from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: He went to fucking He goes, I knew Larry before
Speaker 3: he started acting, and Larry acted at around nine ten
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 1: Now, how long have you been in your whole career
Speaker 1: as a comic? Now? How many years? Twenty five, twenty
Speaker 1: five years? What kind of advice would you give to
Speaker 1: people pursuing comedy and just because.
Speaker 2: I say, I didn't know if he was laughing, You'll
Speaker 2: just be good.
Speaker 1: But be good, I was gonna say, because you did
Speaker 1: dominate social too a little bit too. But what advice
Speaker 1: would you give to people getting into this game twenty
Speaker 1: five years? I said, let me consistent, And how long
Speaker 1: was your struggle period? For that twenty five struggle period?
Speaker 1: I always tell people it's easy ten but for the
Speaker 1: low average was my struggle?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: A it was struggle. I don't know because I was
Speaker 2: having fun.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm talking about financial struggle, like where you were
Speaker 1: like still yo, I'm still trying to clear.
Speaker 2: I think when I first got to New York, and
Speaker 2: we got to New.
Speaker 1: York that first six months.
Speaker 2: But I was on stage but getting money, yeah, but
Speaker 2: sleeping on couch.
Speaker 1: Because you had to go through all the clubs in
Speaker 1: New York. You have to pass in every club they have.
Speaker 1: That is it chitling circuit or whatever?
Speaker 2: And the main I did both, okay.
Speaker 3: But what was great is like chilling circuit page well,
Speaker 3: but then added to the mainstream.
Speaker 2: Because I could go both. It was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I got that. Man, this is great per week in
Speaker 2: cash about fifteen or two thousand and can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on is I was surviving like in
Speaker 3: most cities don't pay like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was having money in my pocket like stacks.
Speaker 1: Is there any club in New York that was hard
Speaker 1: to pass?
Speaker 2: So it depends it was a comedy seller.
Speaker 3: But then I got in the comic strip I got in,
Speaker 3: there was a lot. They were much more strict back then,
Speaker 3: but then they've been a little more because there's so
Speaker 3: many comedians now and a lot of clubs.
Speaker 2: Are opening, so they need It's like they need.
Speaker 3: Content and a lot of people are comics because of
Speaker 3: clips and ship. Yeah, but I tell them, man, if
Speaker 3: you're in this, I hope you love it. Man, you
Speaker 3: better loved this ship because wait.
Speaker 1: It's downside. Given do you think the traveling can be
Speaker 1: considered a downside?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could be tiring, but you got to get
Speaker 3: to places people, and I would like you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about her family and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Does that ever get like hard family for me?
Speaker 2: I don't have no kids. I have no kids. It
Speaker 2: can be, but at this point.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's hindered the kid thing?
Speaker 2: I think maybe unless you did. I had a girl
Speaker 2: that for like years that she didn't know I'm kids,
Speaker 2: so I didn't think about it. Kids.
Speaker 1: I have won, oh yeah, but I was just wondering
Speaker 1: if it hugh.
Speaker 2: To even have one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: I never I just never had. Yeah, maybe I never
Speaker 2: had baby Peou. Game was nasty like inside fastball bull one.
Speaker 1: Then next year I get a text like, oh I
Speaker 1: got one.
Speaker 2: If it happens cool, I'm not neither here nor they.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get that fuck you money right now.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to have verge like you
Speaker 3: are clear finding it.
Speaker 2: I think there's a way to get to it, and
Speaker 2: I'm around people go no.
Speaker 3: We can get to it. Just strategizing we can get
Speaker 3: to it. And so if I get that, I'll be like,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind kid too, But I don't know who
Speaker 3: with because it's cycles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fool is disgusting.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to me who have the kid with. Yes,
Speaker 1: but go back all the way back before we close out.
Speaker 1: What advice would you give to someone coming up in
Speaker 1: this game after twenty five years?
Speaker 2: Love it countless specials, love it you love.
Speaker 3: It, love, don't be up there taking up space because
Speaker 3: you think you're going to get famous a day because
Speaker 3: you see some media, because a lot of mediocrity makes it,
Speaker 3: but comedy doesn't.
Speaker 2: Is unforgiving.
Speaker 3: If you ain't ready, it's gonna show because comedy gives
Speaker 3: you results right away.
Speaker 2: Up, work at it. I'm saying, take it as serious. Denzel.
Speaker 2: I love Denzel.
Speaker 3: Denzel said something to the ladies, goes, is there any
Speaker 3: advice you can give to if you see that one?
Speaker 3: He goes, learn, shut up, turn off your phone, study,
Speaker 3: go to class.
Speaker 2: You see say that. Just yeah, practice your craft, hone,
Speaker 2: your craft, really work your craft.
Speaker 3: It's a real craft. Because even me at my level,
Speaker 3: I still see the difficulty in it. I still see
Speaker 3: if I don't get this right, I'm finished, they're gonna
Speaker 3: fucking They're not gonna laugh at this shit. So we
Speaker 3: and for guys like Jerry Seinfeld, who still does.
Speaker 2: Comedy a billionaire, that's how heavy the heart is. Fuck
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 1: Where you see this because.
Speaker 2: You go, oh, I'm gonna craft another joke. I gotta
Speaker 2: get that. I gotta get that laughter. Wanted to see
Speaker 2: my genius again.
Speaker 3: It's like musicians play till they're fucking stop.
Speaker 2: Stop doing that.
Speaker 3: And I just tell people just love it, don't just
Speaker 3: take up Get the fuck off the stage. If you're
Speaker 3: just taking up space, have some humility about the fucking craft.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Just because you did two cool shows don't mean you
Speaker 3: equal to like these vets, So don't.
Speaker 1: Stick And for the same for the social because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of social media influencers and also.
Speaker 3: You people are on social media. Sketches not the same
Speaker 3: as stand up. You better you're gonna find out real
Speaker 3: quick just because.
Speaker 2: You do funny sketches has nothing to do with stand up.
Speaker 1: Now that speaking of that, just and I'm meant to
Speaker 1: cut us short. We got it. We were over time.
Speaker 1: But batches now doing stand up? Have you seen that?
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I've seen him. I've seen him. I've worked
Speaker 2: with him. He's with Joe Koy and so he's actually learned.
Speaker 1: He's on Rower.
Speaker 3: And he asked me questions all the time, so he
Speaker 3: actually cares about it.
Speaker 2: But he's still amazed because you'll see me. I'll be
Speaker 2: in New York. He goes, Yo, what you doing?
Speaker 3: I said, I just got on stage. I'm about to
Speaker 3: go on another stage. Wait, how many you got tonight?
Speaker 2: For all in one day. I go, yeah, so you
Speaker 2: get good at it, you gotta do it all the time.
Speaker 2: He goes, damn, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Gotta do the in Betweens, man, you gotta I gotta
Speaker 3: show tonight.
Speaker 1: I remember when Ego first got into a man. He'd
Speaker 1: be out all night and then I'd come to town
Speaker 1: and he would I'd be like, just wake me up
Speaker 1: and bring me a chop cheese and a snap on.
Speaker 1: He was so sweet. He would always bring me a
Speaker 1: chop cheese and a snap on. I knew he would
Speaker 1: be out all night.
Speaker 2: That's right. I've been on shows with him.
Speaker 3: I got him on wiling Out because I said, he's
Speaker 3: really funny, he's smart, he's quick.
Speaker 2: And then he did it. He and my thing is
Speaker 2: didn't mean he was going to get on. He had
Speaker 2: to prove himself.
Speaker 1: He definitely had to prove and then Nick.
Speaker 3: Was like, your man, God told us about you. And
Speaker 3: then I said, but I said, Nick, Ego, you gotta
Speaker 3: do it. You gotta do the work.
Speaker 1: And he did it, and he let me tell you
Speaker 1: something now, So there was no there was a part
Speaker 1: where let's kick you off. There was a part where
Speaker 1: Eagle was a little nervous. He was like, just temperature
Speaker 1: chech now and I was like no, And now had
Speaker 1: told me he said he waited the whole camp for
Speaker 1: my phone call to come through, just so he could
Speaker 1: reject it. He said, he just he said, I knew
Speaker 1: you was gonna call and I didn't. And he was like,
Speaker 1: I was impressed that you didn't, but I wanted your
Speaker 1: brother to know that he did it on his own.
Speaker 1: And he says, so nobody, you can never be like
Speaker 1: you a big sister or whatever.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 3: He called because he called. He said, man, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go to go for Wilding Out.
Speaker 3: He said, oh you are He said, yeah, Man, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: It was his third time, third or four times like Nick.
Speaker 3: And then I went, I said Nick personally, I called him.
Speaker 3: I said, I got a guy eagle Wick. He's coming it.
Speaker 3: And then when he went into the room, Nick said,
Speaker 3: Godfrey told me about you.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I said, and he goes, we I fucked
Speaker 3: with his opinion because a Nick had begged me to
Speaker 3: come on wilding Out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, you've done a couple of spots though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on.
Speaker 2: I was at Nick's house in Jersey, and I was like.
Speaker 3: He was like, because I was doing his doctor Sebbi
Speaker 3: documentary and he goes, yo, man, so what's up man,
Speaker 3: You're gonna do well on the web?
Speaker 2: Man, I said, it's because it's popular. Don't mean I
Speaker 2: need to do it.
Speaker 1: Did he lock you in a room to get you?
Speaker 2: He was like in his kitchen like, man, come on, man,
Speaker 2: come on man.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, how are you going to cater I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I want you to do voices.
Speaker 2: We're gonna cater it for you to do what you
Speaker 2: do best. I said, all right, mother fucker.
Speaker 3: So I did three seasons and I got a lot
Speaker 3: of great ship off of that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did it. And then I ended up
Speaker 2: writing on his daytime talk show for seven months. That
Speaker 2: was cool.
Speaker 3: I never written for anything, but yeah, Nick has always
Speaker 3: looked out. Now he has a he has a Spade show.
Speaker 1: I like that show.
Speaker 2: Is it good? Getting the clips of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just like the idea that he did something
Speaker 1: that creative.
Speaker 2: Because I know they called me for it, but I
Speaker 2: don't know to place.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to place.
Speaker 2: I should have learned. Friends.
Speaker 1: You should tell him that and just ask him if
Speaker 1: he'd be willing to switch it up for you. But
Speaker 1: you should totally do the show.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Because I I did his Council Culture show too. I
Speaker 3: did that with Neo, so I did that one and
Speaker 3: then yeah.
Speaker 2: Because they sent me a thing to do it overtime. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you damn I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know, and I said an hour. Thank
Speaker 1: y'all for tuning in on how can everybody keep up
Speaker 1: with everybody? Everything?
Speaker 4: Godfrey, you're getting keep over with me on my Instagram
Speaker 4: is Godfree Comic and my horrible TikTok is Godfree Funny
Speaker 4: because they shut down my other account like they always do,
Speaker 4: and I have to start it all over so I
Speaker 4: have eight thousand wonderful followers.
Speaker 1: Yes, and tune into the special that's coming out.
Speaker 3: My special will be coming out this but it's still
Speaker 3: live at the Apollo. You'll be looking out for that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, my website is Godfreelive dot com. Find out
Speaker 3: where I'm going to be around the damn country in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: Alrighty, all right, thanks for tuning in, y'all.
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