1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: We welcome you to the Official Titans Podcast, presented by 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Far Bureau Health Plans. I'm Mike Keith with Aby Wells Amy. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Great to have you again. Hey Mike, how are you? 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I am super and I'm so thrilled to have this 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: guy on the OTP. I love Tank Williams, former Titans 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: safety draft pick in two thousand and two, number twenty five, himself, 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Tank Williams, Welcome to the Official Titans Podcast. Yeah, thanks 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: for having me. I mean I expected to be on 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: this podcast maybe two or three years ago. So Far 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Bureau of Health Plans is now our sponsor, and now 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: we've got Tank Williams, so we've got it completed. Now, 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: it's taken us two years to get two important things done, 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: but I'm glad it's happening now. You're in California, Yeah, yeah, 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: californ on y'all. I've been sheltering in place for about 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: a month and a half now, so spending most of 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: my time doing home workouts, peloton, going on long walks, 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: is trying to keep my distance. But everything's well. Families good, 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: so no complaints. You look great when you played for 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: the Titans. You wait two twenty five ish, what about now. 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I was listening the books at two twenty five is, 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: but I was more like two thirty five is. Right now, 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm in like the two fifteen range since I'm gonna 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: leave out here in California. I try to eat clean, 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: workout regularly, so if I can keep that weight off, 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: that's half the battle. So I do what I can. 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I do what I can. Now, you're doing lots of things, 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: but one of the things that you're doing is you're 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: working for Yahoo Sports. Tell the OT people exactly what 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you're doing for Yahoo. So when I first start off 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: with Yahoo Sports, it was just as a fantasy football 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: analyst in twenty fifteen, and then my job descrissition has 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: just progressed over the years to where now I cover fantasy, 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: NFL and college football. And so I'm prepping just like 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: everyone else for the draft that's coming Thursday, so excited 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: to see these picks roll off. I mean, this is 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: a strange time. I mean, it's going to be a 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: draft that none of us has ever seen before, with 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: everything happening remotely, but looking forward to it nonetheless. Now, 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: how did you make that transition from being the fantasy 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: football analysts to now being a draft analyst with fantasy football, 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: you have to be in tune with the entire roster, 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: regardless of just focusing on maybe like the top one 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: or two on the depth charting. So just having that 44 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: knowledge and also covering college football for Yahoo Sports, so 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm covering all the premium games on Saturdays and stuff. 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: So you just get to learn all those players. And 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: so then it kind of lends itself to draft courage 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: because you're already knowledgeal about the rosters and what teams 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: are trying to do, and then at the same time, 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: you have this good understanding little players that are coming 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: in and you're just trying to put all the pieces together. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: So that's the fun part about it. So who taught 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: you how to analyze these players almost like you're a scout. 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: I think it's just from playing the game. I mean, 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: you're getting drafted and you get to see some of 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the players that you played with, whether it's like a 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Keith Bullock or a Samaria Roll or Steve McNair Eddie Jordan. 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: Then it's just having these data points of the good 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: players that you played with and then seeing some of 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: those traits and other guys and saying like Okay, Yeah, 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: he could probably do some of the same things that 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: this player did, and this game is pretty much the same. 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: So therefore, I think he'll be a good fit for 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: this particular defense, whether it's three four or four three, 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and just kind of go along the lines that way 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: with regards to different teams. Tank, you were the forty 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: fifth pick in the two thousand and two NFL draft 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: six two two twenty five, or at least that's how 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: you were listed six five. Knowing your size and your 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: skill set move tank wayiaves from two thousand and two 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty. Where would you go in this draft 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: with how the game is played today? And I look 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: at Isaiah Simmons and I feel like he's a player 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: that's building motives kind of similar to myself. Like when 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I describe Isaiah Simmons, I say, he's probably a lending 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: between Keith Bullock and myself because ball was a little 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: bit larger. But Isaiah runs like a cornerback. I mean, 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: he's fastening with time. I timed in the low four fours, 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: but he timed in that like a four three something. 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so having that speed, that ability to play 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: up close on the line, linebacker and also played safety too, 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: cover of people in the slot. I mean, he's one 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: of those versatile players that's perfect for the league today 84 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: because you have these running backs like Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara. 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: That was so explosive about the backfield. At the same time, 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: you need somebody that can cover, like a George Chill 87 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: or John new Smith or something like that. So having 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: that position flexibility at a guy like that, I mean, 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: it's premium in the league and that's why you'd probably 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: see a guy like Isaiah Simmons go really high on Thursday. 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Would you have been a linebacker? Would a team have 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: made you a linebacker today rather than player at safety? 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I think so. And one of the interesting nuggets, I 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: can't remember what coach it was, but I remember when 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: I came out my draft class, whoever was a coach 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: who I believe the Detroit Lions. He said that he 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: wanted to draft me and moved me to cornerback my 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: first year because I was fast enough to play corner 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and so just kind of refine my skill sets as 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: a corner and then be able to move me all 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: over the field because then I'd be comfortable playing in 102 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the slot at linebacker and everything else. And I thought 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: that was pretty unique in as you see the way 104 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: that the game is changing now, will all these guys are. 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: They're not just position specific. They would have played all 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: over the field like a Swiss army. And if I 107 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: feel like you, no, that's something I would have really 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: appreciated doing back in those days. Now, you're good friends 109 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: with Keith Bullock and we have had this conversation a lot, 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: so I would like to hear your thoughts on it. 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: Keith Bullock is convinced that if he were drafted in 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he would go higher than thirtieth overall. He 113 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: is sure of it that his type of game is 114 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: better suited for the way football is played in twenty twenty. Yeah, 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: do you agree with that? I think so because I 116 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: feel like it's a more of a past centric league 117 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: these days, and so I feel like skills said, it's 118 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: similar to what Isaiah Simmons has. Like obviously, bull can't 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: run the way that Isaiah Simmons can, but the one 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: thing that he always piled himself on was being a playmaker. 121 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: He was really smart, so he was always around the ball, 122 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: and that's how the game is really transitions. Like I 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: was more of like a thumb for as safety. So 124 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I was going in trying to lay the big hits. 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: But now the game is about creating turnal was whether 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: stripped sacks, tip balls that lead the interceptions, pick six 127 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: is getting the ball in the end zone on defense. 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: That's what the game is predicated on. And that's why 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: they called my man missed the money night because he 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: used to do that on the regular You have said 131 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah simmons name now like ten times, is he the 132 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: best football player in this draft regardless of position? Nah, 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: that goes to Chase Young. Chase Young is, like Isaiah 134 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Simmons is like an athlete. He's a physical freak. I 135 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: call him Rick James and cleats. He's a super freak. 136 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: But like Chase Young man And when you look at 137 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the stats, I mean, he was a productive guy like 138 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: his three years at Ohio State. But what impressed me 139 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: theosis that he had the most sacks the year after 140 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa leaves. And you would think that he would 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: be more productive with Nick Bosa there, but then he 142 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: was able to, you know, kind of build on top 143 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: of what he did that season before and then just 144 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: become even more of a monster this year. So the 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: only reason he's not going first is because the Cincinnati 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Beings need a quarterback and Joe Burrows that do. Otherwise, 147 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Chase Younger be the first pick off the board, and 148 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: talent wise, he probably should be. Wow, what is your 149 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: favorite position on the defensive side of the ball to analyze? 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, honously, I'm a defensive back, so I like 151 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: seeing the safeties. I like seeing what they're reading and 152 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: how they're effective in the run and pass game. I 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: love watching cornerbacks because I really wasn't that good at 154 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: man to man coverage when I was coming into the league. 155 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I really learned how to play man coverage from watching 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Samaria role in the film room, and so just watching 157 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: these cornerback techniques, like seeing what they're seeing at the 158 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and how seamlessly they can transition from 159 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: zone and man coverage and coming up in the run 160 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: and playing back deep and so I've always found that 161 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: intrigue and then to see I just love watching the 162 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: edge Russians too. I was fortunate enough to play with 163 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney at the Senior Bowl going into my rookie 164 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: year and seeing that dude puts spin move after spid 165 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: move on people, and I was like, this dude's going 166 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: to be special. And then to see how like how 167 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: the game has transitioned down to whenever you can find 168 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: a guy like Freeneye, he's gonna be one of the 169 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: first guys off the board, which is why you know 170 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Chase Young is going to go as high as he 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: will this year. What is maybe the top one or 172 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: two skills that a corner has to have to be 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: successful in today's NFL. I think you have to be smart, 174 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: and I think you have to be fast. When you're 175 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: in college, you always have this mindset that you're about 176 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. You're about to go play 177 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: against these big, strong men. But I remember, you know, 178 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: being a junior senior in college and John Lynch came 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: back to Stanford because they always have the NFL guys 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: come back, and he was like, I can tell you 181 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: one thing, like it's important to be strong, but speed 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: is the key to the game. And that's one thing 183 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: that hasn't changed from two thousand and two to twenty. 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: If you can run and if you're a smart player, 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't bust us times where the coaches that depending 186 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: on you been where you're supposed to be on every 187 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: single play, and then at the same time you're making plays, 188 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: then there's going to be a place for you in 189 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the NFL for a long time. Is it more important 190 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: for corners to tackle today than it wasn't two thousand 191 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: and two or less important? I don't even know if 192 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: they tackle today. I mean, I don't want to get 193 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: guys mad at me, but I mean the way that 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: tackling is going in the current NFL is just ridiculous. 195 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: Like I almost call it the flag football League these 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: days because you can't touch anyone. And trust me, I understand. 197 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not hating because I believe the changes that they've 198 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: made the rules have made it to where people can 199 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: have longer careers, and that's better for the players, that's 200 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: better for the teams, that's better for their families. But 201 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, I mean, the tackling is just atrocious. 202 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: These guys act like they don't want to test the 203 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: guy on the other side of the ball, and yeah, 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: it's it's just a sad estate right now. It's a 205 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: sad state in the game where tackling this But as 206 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: you've seen I mean the teams that play defense nowadays 207 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: are the teams that end up, you know, make and 208 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: far in the playoffs. It's a game that's predicated on 209 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: moving the ball on offense, creating matchups where it's in 210 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the field, on the outside of the field. 211 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: But still defense wins championships, and we continue to see 212 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: that on a regular basis once you're getting the thick 213 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Tank Williams, who are the corners that 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: you really like in the twenty twenty NFL Draft? Who 215 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: jumps out to you? I mean, obviously the first quient 216 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: that's going to come off the borders Jeff for Couter. 217 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean he has the right size, he has the 218 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: right speed, has the right university. I mean whenever you 219 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: hear a cornerback coming out of the Ohio State University, 220 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: you just know he's going to be a hot pick. 221 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: And he lives up to the building. I mean, he's 222 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: a really smart player, he's confident, he has really good feet, 223 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: he's smooth, he makes players on the ball, and I 224 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: think he's just going to be a perfect fit. I 225 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: mean I see him going to Detroit. I mean it 226 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: seems like that's the place where he's going to land, 227 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: then you have to have a deed for him. And 228 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: he prides himself on trying to be similar to like 229 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: these Stephan gil Moore type players, where the real cerebral 230 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: with understanding not only the defense but what the offense 231 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: trying to do to them and making sure they're going 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: to be in the best position to make plays. And 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like he's a really special plan. He 234 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: has the right attitude of the right boxes to be 235 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: successful at the next level. And though that the Titans 236 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: are probably going to look with some corners later in 237 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the draft, Jeffekudo won't be there, trust me that there 238 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: may be some guys that can fit the Titan knees 239 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: as you get later on in the first round if 240 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: they decide to stay that all right, before Amy asks 241 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: her next question, I need to remind everybody you're watching 242 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: the Official Titans podcast and listening to the Official Titans 243 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: podcast brought to you by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Look 244 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to the folks at Farm Bureau of Health Plans when 245 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: you need someone who understands the exes and ohs of 246 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee ands since nineteen forty seven. 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Good job, Mike, that sounded great. Thank you. Mike always 248 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: sounds great. Mike always sounds great. All right, Tank, I 249 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: want to ask you what are safeties of today asked 250 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: to do that you were not asked to do? Oooh. 251 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I will say that teams were a little bit more 252 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: run heavy during during my day, where they played a 253 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: little bit more twenty one personnel where you have two backs, 254 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: so you have a running back, fullback, of tight end, 255 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: two wide receivers. So in those formasons, you know, teams 256 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: were a little bit more downhill run centric, whereas today, 257 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean the you know, the predominant formation that they 258 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: use as eleven personnel where you have one running back, 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers, or they just split 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: out with four wide receivers. So the safeties has to 261 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: be able to come down and play a little bit 262 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: more coverage in the slot or have the speed in 263 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: the rains to play over the top like I was 264 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: able to do that. I was a little bit unique 265 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: where I was a big guy who could run like 266 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: a corner, so I was able to do that. But 267 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like these safeties these 268 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: days need to be able to play more like a 269 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: nickel versus like being a big safety that's primarily on 270 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: like tight ends and bigger people running problems. Do you 271 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: think that a safety will go in the first round 272 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night? I actually have a mock draft where 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I do not have a safety going in the first round. 274 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: I feel like they have some really good players at 275 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: the safety position. At the same time, I feel like 276 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: this is a really unique draft where the top of 277 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: the driver or like the Cowboy players that you're accustomed 278 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: to seeing coming off the board early, and then once 279 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: you get to that middle range, I feel like teams 280 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: that they can't trade back, they're going to pick some 281 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: players who are really good. But I mean, it's just 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: guys where they're just kind of feeling knees and no 283 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: one that just kind of really jumps off the board 284 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: like we've seen in Pride drafts. And even though they 285 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: have some teams that need safeties like the Cowboys and 286 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: some of these other ones, I feel like they'll probably 287 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: go for a player that's raided a little bit higher 288 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: versus just picking knee right there. At least that's what 289 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: I would do. So that's why I don't have any 290 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: safeties going in the first round. Even though I do 291 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: have one position that normally doesn't go in the first round. 292 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: These days, at running back, I have at least one 293 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: going in the first round. Who. Man, my favorite running 294 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: back is the guy from Wisconsin, man Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. 295 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: He's a beast. I said that he is say Quon 296 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: Barkley on the rock, so he's just light. He wanted down. 297 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: He's not as fast as stay Quine. He didn't really 298 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: show like the past catching ability at Wisconsin because they 299 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: don't do that at Wisconsin. But he showed that he 300 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: can do that at the Combine. To dude, it is fast, powerful, smart, 301 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: has the right attitude, moxie. I think that dude is 302 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: really good. To me, he was the best all around 303 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: back in the drive. Wow, So you'd like him better 304 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: than DeAndre Swift from Georgia and JK. Dobbins from Ohio State. 305 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's just my personal preference. I mean, both 306 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: of those guys are really good backs, really good athletes. 307 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: And when I talked to JK. Dobbins, I mean he 308 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: really hit the nail on the head. I mean he 309 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have that prototypical size of what we see as 310 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: a running back these days, but he miles himself out there. 311 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was as a guy that maybe built a 312 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: little bit smaller, but at the same time could be 313 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: effective in the run and pass game. And so McCaffrey 314 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: showed that he can hold up to having a lot 315 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: of touches. And so I feel like Dobbins and some 316 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: of those other guys want to prove that they can 317 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: as well. But the way the draft was falling to 318 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: me into what I fel like a running back may 319 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: come off the board and the team that I have 320 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: him going to, I felt like, you know, John to 321 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Tell would probably be the best fit there. Interesting. Okay, 322 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: so you've said Chase Young is your number one defensive player. 323 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Is Joe Burrow your number one offensive player regardless of position, 324 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: or do you have somebody else. I mean, just because 325 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: of the emphasis that we put on quarterbacks these days, 326 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: because quarterbacks make your team, make your offense go, I 327 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: feel like Joe Burrow is the best and safest play 328 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position in this draft. I mean, I 329 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: understand that some people may call him a one year wonder. 330 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he really didn't get the opportunity to show 331 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: what he could at Ohio State. But what impressed me 332 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: the most is that had opportunity to talk to him 333 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: at the combine. If he was able to kind of 334 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: talk through the scenario of being a guy in high 335 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: school who was a really good player got to go 336 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: to Ohuse State. You don't just get no scholarships to 337 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: o House State just being okay, like you have to 338 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: be pretty good, yet not getting his time to shine 339 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: there going to Lshoe having some doubts about the player 340 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: that he was, so he had to like basically kind 341 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: of relearn the fact that hey, I'm a dude that 342 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: can play ball at the college football level, while at 343 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the same time earning the respect of the guys in 344 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: the locker room, and then after doing that making plays 345 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: with him like yo, I can take my game up 346 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: to another level. And he was able to do that 347 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: when the heist. Man, I mean, he reminds me so 348 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: much and you hear it a lot already, but like 349 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady, just that chip that he has on 350 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: his shoulder, but then also the way that he makes 351 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: his reads, the way he knew where in the pocket. 352 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: He reminds me of Brady. But at the same time 353 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: he's a way better athlete, and so given the fact 354 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: that he's mobile, he's really accurate, and just the drive 355 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: and the determination that he plays with to be better 356 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: each and every day. That's why I feel like he's 357 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the best offensive player in this drive class. Who's the 358 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: player in this draft that's going to be the biggest 359 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: surprise or who's your big sleeper. I don't know if 360 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: my guy's a big sleeper, but I know there's a 361 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of questions around who's the best wide receiver in 362 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: this drive class. You hear a lot of talk about 363 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb, Jerry Judy Rugs, he higging some of these 364 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: other guys. But I don't know if it's just bias 365 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: based on the guys I played against Durham my playing day, 366 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: But Ceedee Lamb reminds me of Marvin Harrison, Like he's 367 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy out there, but he's super fast, 368 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: makes every route look the same, makes the difficult catches. 369 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: He was able to put up big sass even though 370 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: teams were focusing in on him, like everyone knew he 371 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: was a guy new he's going to get the ball. 372 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: He produced with Baker Mayfield, Colin Murray, and Jalen Hurst 373 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: with all those three quarterbacks providing like different you know, 374 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: attributes for those various years, and so I feel like 375 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb to me is the best why receiving the draft, 376 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: And I can understand why some guys may have them 377 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: rank a little bit differently, but I expect him to 378 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: be a productive player from the start. All right, Tank, 379 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: we're taking it straight to the pros here. Who do 380 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: you think the Tensee Titans will take a number twenty nine? 381 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Just yell it out, all right? So my my draft, 382 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: I have the Titans going with Ross Blacklock, a DT 383 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: from TCU. And the reason I have them going with 384 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: him is because we're not sure how the Jadevion clowney 385 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: thing is gonna stake out right now, and when i'm 386 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of stack and ranking those guys who can be 387 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: like a past productive d N versus the cornerbacks, I 388 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: feel like Blacklock is a high caliber player than some 389 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks at the radar right there, that they 390 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: maybe to just pick one of those cornerbacks up a 391 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: little bit later in the draft. And so I have 392 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Blacklock going at twenty nine to my Titans. So that's important. 393 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: But let me hit the thing that's really important. I 394 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: want you to give me a player in this draft 395 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: who can make a play like Tank Williams did It's 396 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: a rookie on November third, two thousand and two in Indianapolis, 397 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: Indiana in the old RCA dub where, if I remember correctly, 398 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I think he blindside blitzed a future Hall of Fame quarterback, 399 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: sacked him, caused a fumble, and his best friend scooped 400 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: up the ball and ran in sixty one yards for 401 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Can anybody do what you did to Peyton 402 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: Manning your rookie year man. That's why I have like 403 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: several pitches from that play on my computer too, so 404 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: they're always fun to look back on. But I think 405 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: one player that can do that, and he has the 406 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: position to do it, and his name is really similar 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: to mine, Like I was calling him Clayborn chaise On 408 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: for a while, even though it's Kay LeVar and chaise Song. 409 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: But I mean that man is a beast from LSU. 410 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an edge rusher who's built a little 411 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: bit smaller. But he reminds me of another LSU Russia 412 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Danil Hunter that came out who was a little bit slider. 413 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: Bill was a little bit underrated coming out, but then 414 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: he just grew to become a monster up there in Minnesota, 415 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: And so I feel like kay Levaron Chaise Song can 416 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: have like a similar impact for a team coming up 417 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: in this year's draft. Tell me about that sack on 418 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Was that your signature play? Did you ever 419 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: have a moment that topped that well? I picked off Peyton. Actually, 420 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: my signature play for me personally was even though we 421 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: lost the game. It was the AFC Championship game, my 422 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: rookie year, and the Raiders were driving down until our 423 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: end zone and I was able to lay a hit 424 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: on Jerry Rice, like pretty much knocked him out. He 425 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: fumbled the ball. Unfortunately he was able to recover it too. 426 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: I believe they went in and score. But being able 427 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: to hit my favorite playoff all time and put a 428 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: good look on a look that you can't do in 429 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: the NFL these days, that's a memory to me. But 430 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: when you're a rookie that early part of your career, 431 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: you're just trying to figure out like if you can 432 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: make players and if you if you belong, if you 433 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: can have the same impact you could at the college level, 434 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: and I believe that play in Indianapolis was like my 435 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: first big splash play. While I was like, Okay, I 436 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: can play with these dudes, I made a play on 437 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league right now, 438 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: and I believe I started the game a lot of 439 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: confidence from that point moving forward. That's good stuff. And 440 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: if you think about this, to me, it's been eighteen 441 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: years since you were drafted. Okay, it's okay. I mean 442 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: it's been eighteen years for me two tanks, so but 443 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean you think about this weekend and what it means, 444 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: even though we're in the unusual circumstances that we are. 445 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: The memories that this weekend will create, the memories that 446 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: you have from two thousand and two being taken in 447 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: the second round, looking at it from where you are 448 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: now with a thirty thousand foot view of your own 449 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: life and your own career and being a Titan, tell 450 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: us what it meant and what it means. I would 451 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: say that draft day was probably one of the most 452 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: special moments for me in my Titans career because it's 453 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: one of those things where I guess a lot of 454 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: people players like dream of playing in the NFL from 455 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: like being a young kid, like I always had a 456 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: great love for the game. My dad was a football coach. 457 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I was just never like always the one that was 458 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: the best one on the team or anything like that. 459 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: So I never just dreamed from a young as I 460 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: would play in the NFL. And so it was just 461 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: grinding through junior high, high school, getting the CAUs becoming 462 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: a really good player, and then understand that, hey, I 463 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: got a chance to get drafted, and then just sitting 464 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: like I had like my whole family at my primary 465 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: residence where my parents lived, waiting for me to get drafted, 466 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: and I was at my sister's house and it was 467 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: just myself and my parents were in the other room. 468 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: I remember just sitting in front of the TV and 469 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: I got the call and then I'm just so happy, 470 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: and then my mom busting the room like, oh day, 471 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: you got drafts. I'm like, so then getting off the 472 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: phone with the Titans and being able to like celebrate 473 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: with my intimate family first and then going and then 474 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: celebrating with all my friends and family. I mean, it's 475 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: one of those special memories, Like it's one of those 476 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: things where a lot of plays and games kind of 477 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: blending together. I don't remember like specific details, but that day, 478 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: that moment getting drafted is one thing that will always 479 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: stand out to me and like I can remember, clearest 480 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: clearest yesterday, so good. Tell people how they can follow 481 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: you on social media on Twitter at Tank Williams thirteen, 482 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Tank Williams thirteen, on pretty much everything 483 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: you could find at Tank Williams thirteen. I'm trying to, 484 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, keep it seamless of you find me one place, 485 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: you can find me everywhere. Thirteen was your number at Stanford, right, Yeah, 486 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: because every Titans fan knows you is Tank Williams twenty five. Yeah, 487 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Amy Wells. Tell people how they can follow you on 488 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: social media at Titans Amy Am I E. And of 489 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: course remember the OTP is on and brought to you 490 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: by our good friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans, and 491 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: this has been a really special one for us to 492 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: have one of our favorites, Tank Williams with us as 493 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: we leave. Do you have a message for Keith Bullock, 494 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: who is a regular guest on the OTP. I always 495 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: like to give bull a hard time. I was just 496 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: messing with him yesterday actually, so I don't have a 497 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: really special message for him. But one thing I would say, 498 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: since he's a regular on the show, you need to 499 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: have me back one time with Bullets on the show. 500 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: So yes, a radio show back in the day. I 501 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: think it was only like maybe ninety four five or 502 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: something like that, and we used to have some really 503 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: good times on the radio. So we can relive one 504 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: of those moments on the show. That'd be great. So 505 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: let's make that happen. That's my way of saying, y'all 506 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: need to have me back. We'll have you back. Will 507 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: you tell stories from your trips through Europe with Bullock? 508 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got a lot of stories, a lot 509 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: of good stuff. Enjoyed draft weekend, old friend. Thank you 510 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: for being with us. Oh yeah, thanks for having me. 511 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure for Tank Williams and Amy Wells, Mike Keatsas, 512 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us for the Official Titans Podcast, presented 513 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: by far Bureau Health Plans. This has been the o 514 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: t