1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in as verdict with center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: with you. I hope you had a fabulous Easter weekend 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: with your family. It was a Easter miracle, Senator, as 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: we have now gotten back that second pilot that was 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: missing forty eight hours in hell and I ran behind 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: enemy lines. I hope they make a movie out of 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: this one. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Sir well, I'm confident they will. And let me first 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: of all say he has risen. He has risen. Indeed, 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: I hope you and everyone listening had a wonderful, good Friday, 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: a wonderful Easter. I hope you spent some time with 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: your family that you gave, gave your your wife or 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: your husband a hug, you gave your kids a hug, 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: and I hope you just spent you know, we had 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: the whole day together, just went to church and hung 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: out with the kids and had a great day. And 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: actually I took my mom, my ninety one year old mom, 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: on Easter afternoon out to see a new movie, A 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Great Awakening. You have you seen that? 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Mean it? But I've heard so was it? Give me 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: a review. 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. It's all about the Great Awakening. 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: The United States, and and and the the wave of 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Christianity that swept in the in the the the early 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds that helped set the predicate UH for UH 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: for the American Revolution. And it's about Ben Franklin is 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: a major protagonist, and it was it was a fabulous movie. 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: That's awesome. So she so you went to the movies. 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: You had a good time. 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: People that don't know you don't realize you love going 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the movies, Like that's like your kryptonite. Like if you 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: if you want to spend time just asking a movie, 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: he'll nine percent of the time say yes, yeah. 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: And I got to say so. My mom said she 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: heard the movie was really good. She wanted to go 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: see it. And then and then I said, hey, hey, 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: do you want to go to a movie? She goes no. 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: I asked, Caroline, you want to go to a movie? No, Catherine, 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: you want to go to a movie? No? I said, Mom, 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: you and me were going. It was awesome. We we 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: had a a mom dad date night and it was 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: really cool. And she loves movies as much as I do. 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: So we had a great afternoon. 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: And and and then had family dinner after that and 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: so when we actually, all right, did you do this 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: with your kids? We hid Easter eggs at our backyard? 48 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Did y'all do Yeah? 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: The easter bunny did. Yes, Yeah they did. 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Okay, we have teenagers, so there's no longer any mystery 51 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: we hide. 52 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: So this is what I got at five am. Wake up, 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: wake up, we gotta go hide eggs. 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: Wake up. 55 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I'm awake, and it's like 56 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: dark outside, and I'm like dumping them outside out of 57 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the basket's like you're supposed to place him like they 58 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: pick them up the same way. I just dumped like 59 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: a trail of teals. I think, can I get back 60 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: in bed now? So, yes, we did. 61 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: That, So I will tell you it shifts. So these 62 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: were no longer eggs filled with candy in this instance, 63 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: they were plastic eggs filled with postings. 64 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh I was gonna say, no, not money, Okay, I 65 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: thought I was thinking pure hard post its. 66 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: So there was like a manicure. There was a pedicure. 67 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: There was something from Sephora, something from Brandy Melville A. 68 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: I don't know it was. Look, I've got a fifteen 69 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: and about to be an eighteen year old daughter, and 70 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: I will admit he was in charge of picking what 71 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: was on the post its. Uh, but but they were 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: pretty excited to get them. And there were other ones 73 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: that just had uh, squishy little rubber duckies. Yeah. Yeah, 74 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: So so it was fun. We had a we had 75 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: a great Eastern so we did not have as amazing 76 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: an easter as an airman who was shot down over Iran. 77 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: And I gotta say, look, this is your right. This 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: will be a movie unless Hollywood. Well, I mean Hollywood 79 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: does suck, but but hopefully they don't suck this bad 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: because this is a movie screaming uh to to to 81 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: be written. He was he was shot down over Iran. 82 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: He hid in the mountains. The Iranians were hunting for him. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: The CIA put out some misinformation. We went in under 84 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: hostile fire, did a rescue, blew up a couple of 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: our planes and helicopters on the way out so the 86 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: Iranians wouldn't get the technology. It was an amazing story. 87 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a deep dive on that, uh in 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: today's podcast. 89 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: Incredible story. 90 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, I also tell you we got a new puppy 91 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: for Christmas, and we've started him off, or I say 92 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: her off on light Birdie on the right foot with 93 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: rough greens. 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I love I 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: love true story movies. I really hope they do a 128 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: movie about this. And credible feet. You had an F 129 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: fifteen that was shot down in Iran, deep in Iran. 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Both of the people ejected. One of them was grabbed 131 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. There was there was a fight to get 132 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: him as well, a firefight to get him, but they 133 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: couldn't get the second guy quickly. And that is when 134 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: the CIA went to work, which is the part of 135 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: the story which is just truly incredible. They started putting 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: out misinformation inside of Iran, claiming that America had actually gotten. 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: But we were having, in essence take him out by 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: land on foot, so that it would drive the soldiers 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: now O urgc and these and these other warlords, etcetera 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: that were looking for him, these militias that are looking 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: for him in the wrong direction, and they they probably 142 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: saved his life more than likely. 143 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: Undoubtedly. Here, let's take a minute and go through the 144 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: TikTok that the Wall Street Journal put out Sunday evening. 145 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: For nearly two days, injured and alone, a US aviator 146 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: hid in the remote mountain crevices. Iranian forces and militias 147 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: closed in on him with helicopters and drones. God is good, 148 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: the Air Force colonel had radioed once he reached an 149 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: elevated ridge, a message that was initially met with suspicion 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: in Washington as a possible Iranian trap. As officials scrambled 151 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: to verify he was still alive. Early Sunday, he heard 152 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: the heavier roar of US aircraft and a barrage of 153 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: fire as US commandos reached him two hundred miles deep 154 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: inside Iran. As they whisked him to safety, they blew 155 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: up aircraft stranded on the ground. Rather than risk sophisticated 156 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: military equipment falling into Iranian hands, leaving behind a final 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: explosion and a plume of smoke. The rescue mission that 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: US officials set unfolded the craggy gorges of southwestern Iran 159 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: was the kind of operation that military commanders both planned 160 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: for and dread. A downed American airman in enemy territory, 161 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: hostile forces converging in early attempts, faltering under fire. The aviator, 162 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: who hasn't yet been identified, had been one of two 163 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: crew flying in an F fifteen to E Strike Eagle 164 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: with the aircraft call sign Dude forty four. Dude forty 165 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: four is great and Dude forty four is a badass. 166 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure we're going to learn more about him. When 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: it was shot down by Iranian forces on Friday. Shortly 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: after the plane crashed, Defense Secretary Pete hegg Seth and 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: General Dan Kane, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: brief President Trump about the situation. According to US officials, 171 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: they told him the Pentagon had long planned for this 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: scenario and could rescue the airman. Once the Pentagon confirmed 173 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: the aviator's identity, heg Seth rushed into the Oval office 174 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: to tell him and to seek a final order. Official said, 175 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: Trump immediately gave his approval. We have to get him, 176 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: Trump said. According to the White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, 177 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: the effort to cover the officer set off a sprawling, 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: high risk rescue mission involving some one hundred Special Operation Forces, 179 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: dozens of US warplanes and helicopters, and a last minute 180 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Central Intelligence Agency deception campaign to buy more time. The 181 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: official said, quote, when airmen go down, you can't get 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: them in very tough countries like in Vietnam. Trump told 183 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal on Sunday morning, he was able 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: to climb, climb up. As wounded as he was, he 185 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: was able to climb into a crevice. The President continued, saying, 186 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: the airmen could hear the US forces looking for him. 187 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: A lot of great things happened. Troops led by Central 188 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Command brought a devastating array of firepower to keep its 189 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: enemy at bay. Four B one bombers, part of a 190 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: larger Arimata armada, dropped nearly one hundred two thousand pounds 191 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: satellite guided bombs, according to two US officials. MQ nine 192 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Reaper drones also struck suspected fighters as they approached within 193 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: kilometers of the aviator's hiding site. The search for an 194 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: American airman stranded behind enemy lines jolted the US, making 195 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: what had been an abstract air war feel visceral beyond 196 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: the grady footage of explosions released by the White House. 197 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: In triumphant interviews and posts, Trump and some of his 198 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: allies had been calling the successful operation an Easter miracle. 199 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: I hate when reporters are starky. Trump and his allies 200 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: are calling it an Eastern miracle. We go in and 201 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: rescue an airman behind enemy lines. We can celebrate that. 202 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: That is extraordinary. And now the journal does note the 203 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: most famous rescue operation that the US has previously attempted 204 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: in Iran, aimed at freeing fifty three US embassy staff 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: hostages nearly forty six years ago, had failed dramatically after 206 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: a series of mishaps punctuated by a fiery crash at 207 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: a desert stagey area. What a contrast. Go back to 208 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter. Yeah, we've got our hostages. That that the 209 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: beginning of this, this Islamic revolution is taking taken American 210 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: hostage in the embassy Jimmy Carter sends in a rescue 211 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: mission and it crashes, no opposing fire crashes in the desert. 212 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: And and and that that was one of the kivotal 213 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: pivotal acts that ended the Jimmy Carter presidency. This is 214 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: night and day, and I got to say, our military, 215 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: the capacity of the American military is second to none. 216 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: And every enemy of America is watching this, and every 217 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: ally of America is watching this, and they're all shaking 218 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: their heads in marble. 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: By the way, it's it's so interesting to see what 220 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: the president did. As I was talking to a buddy 221 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: mine the military early this morning, he said to me, 222 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: He's like, Benny's like, you need to understand what President 223 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Trump did that other presidents have not done. He basically said, 224 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes, use whatever military might you need 225 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: to use. However many people you need to send to 226 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: go and find our boy, because we don't leave someone behind. 227 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: He said, we're talking still team six, hundreds of special 228 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: operations personnel. I wrote this down. Armed drones flying constantly 229 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: overwatch over his location, strike aircraft, engaging intelligence assets, tracking 230 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: every movement on the ground. This wasn't just a rescue, 231 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: he described it as a controlled battlefield inside Iran that 232 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: the US set up with with no notice for a 233 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: scenario that they knew could happen. But he said this 234 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: was a controlled again his words, a controlled battlefield inside 235 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: of Iran. And then he said, not only that the 236 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: US intelligence went to work immediately, he said, the CIA 237 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: spreading false information suggesting the pilot had already been recovered, 238 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: saved his life, he believes. And he said, not only that, 239 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: the Iranian forces, we know it worked. 240 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't like they tried. 241 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: It didn't work because they said, the Iranian forces reacted 242 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: to the misinformation and they moved literally in the wrong direction. 243 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: That is what happens when you have a true leader 244 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: in the White House who says, hey, we will do 245 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get back our boy. I think 246 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: that's part of the story that people need to understand, 247 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: is when you have a leader like Donald Trump that 248 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: says to the military leadership, do your job and do 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: it well, do whatever it takes. You just describe those 250 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: bombers overhead. You got the CIA misinformation working. You see 251 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: the soldiers going in the wrong direction. That is buying 252 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: time for not only them to do the rest of 253 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: the planning, but to save his life. 254 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, that's exactly right. And I want to make 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: another point on this, which is a strategic point about 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: one of the things that makes the US military so 257 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: extraordinary and so unusual. Like a lot of folks, I 258 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: was following the breaking news from Iran and of this 259 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: rescue on x which is the fastest way to get it. 260 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: And one European commentator sent around a picture of the 261 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: F fifteen and two C one thirties and tweeted said, 262 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: lose all of this to rescue one pilot and call 263 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: it your greatest military success of all time. And you know, 264 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: I looked at that tweet that annoyed me. But then 265 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: a fellow and I don't know who this person is, 266 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Craig Fuller. He's freight attorney, is what his hashtag is. 267 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: He sent a response that struck me as really insightful 268 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: and in fact, so listen to his comment and response 269 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: to the European puzzled why we would give up three 270 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: aircraft to save one airman. During World War Two, Hitler 271 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: was convinced that the Americans lacked the will to fight 272 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: and that any who did would be quickly overwhelmed. When 273 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: early reports arrived from the battles in North Africa. German 274 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: absorbers observers noted that Americans fought differently from the Europeans. 275 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: Rather than charging aggressively and risking heavy infantry casualties, US 276 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: forces relied on overwhelming fire power, staying at a distance 277 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: and expending vast quantities of artillery with little hesitation. Thanks 278 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: to unmatched industrial production and logistics, fresh supplies were always available. 279 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: This approach allowed the relatively smaller American units to wear 280 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: down much larger and well entrenched enemy forces. In contrast, 281 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: German and other European doctrines often emphasized aggressive maneuver and 282 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: were sometimes more willing to accept high casualties to achieve 283 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: objectives or to preserve key equipment. This material heavy American 284 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: style surprised many Germans, including Hitler, who had long dismissed 285 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: US soldiers as soft and lacking and fighting spirit. He 286 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: believed soldiers were cheap and expendable. He discovered too late 287 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: that Americans fought to conserve lives by expending machines and 288 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: ammunition instead. It was one of the many reasons for 289 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Germany's defeat, perhaps the hardest for some foreigners to fully 290 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: understand Americans place a high value on the lives of 291 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: our soldiers. Equipment and shells can always be replaced. I 292 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: thought that was a very insightful observation. Absolutely, it was 293 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: an incredibly successful mission. We saved the airmen, and we 294 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: can always build more equipment. 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That's nine seven to two Patriot nine 321 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: seven to two Patriot. Or call them and go online 322 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: at Patriot Mobile dot com slash verdict promo code verdict 323 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: for a free month of service. Make the switch and 324 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: make a difference every time you pay your bill. You 325 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: know several people that I talked to that are in 326 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: the military over the last couple of days. They were 327 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: really worried about the airman who has gone missing, because 328 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: they were like they knew what was going to happen 329 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: to him. If he was caught by the IRGC, by 330 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: these militias, he was a dead man and they were 331 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: going to do it in a horrific way and probably 332 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: film it and put it out there as propaganda to 333 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, and that was what they were all 334 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: concerned with. They also said to me and and text 335 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: messages on Easter Sunday, I want you to understand, they said, 336 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: the morale booster of seeing that you have a commander 337 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: in chief who says, I do not care what it costs, I. 338 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: Don't care, gow get it. Go get him, Go. 339 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Get them, and use everything, stop everything, and use everything 340 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: to go get one man. And then we'll go back 341 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: to what we're doing. But whatever it takes, there is 342 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: nothing I'm going to say no to. And they said, 343 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: they said to me, they said, Ben, it's been a 344 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: long time since men and women in uniform have felt 345 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: that they have a commander in chief who truly has 346 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: their back in this way. One of the things they 347 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: said that was I also thought it was very interesting, 348 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: and I'm going to look it up now. 349 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: See you looked up saying earlier. 350 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: But it was a quote, and I want to quote 351 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: this because it was so It was so important what 352 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: this individual said that's serving his country said, you know, 353 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: go look at the comparison to Bill Clinton and what 354 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: he did with American troops in Somalia. Yeah, he said, 355 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: look at Barack Obama and what he did with Americans 356 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: in Libya. Look at Joe Biden, who had been inoned 357 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: thirteen US soldiers in Afghanistan. Trump moved mountains to rescue 358 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: one American in Iran. One American. And if you're an 359 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: American soldier right now, how fired up for you to 360 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: serve Donald Trump knowing he's genuinely got your back? 361 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Well, let me be clear, you're serving the United States, 362 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: You're not serving Donald Trump. But agreat your commander in 363 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: chief has you're back, and that's a powerful thing. And 364 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: by the way, it's not just you and me saying that, 365 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: it's also Barack Obama's former Secretary of Homeland Security. Listen 366 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: to Jay Johnson talking about this incredible. 367 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: Rescue, this operation for the first pilot and this second pilot. 368 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: It's remarkable exercise, demonstration of US military courage, technology power. 369 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 4: I would encourage the President and the Secretary of Defense, 370 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: consistent with operational security, share as much of that with 371 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: the American public so that the American public can appreciate 372 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: what goes into this kind of operation was more complicated 373 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: than the bin laden operation. For example. 374 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not sure any of that saying something that's 375 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: coming from Jay Johnson. 376 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: That's pretty incredible. 377 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and I want to drill down a 378 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: little bit more on what this does for the fighting 379 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: spirit and the morale of the entire military. And actually 380 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: a different tweet but I thought very profound as well, 381 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: from a fellow named John Conrad on X Here's what 382 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: he said, this is why Americans are the deadliest fighters 383 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: on Earth. I met a priest yesterday who just got 384 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: accepted to chaplain school in Newport. I asked him the 385 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: obvious question, Marines or Navy Navy? He said, his face 386 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: fell a little. He told me he could never be 387 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 2: a marine because every marine is a rifleman, and as 388 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: a priest, he can't carry a weapon. He's hoping to 389 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: get a signed to a marine unit. Anyway, all chaplains 390 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: are Navy officers, so that's the only I laughed. I 391 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: feel a little bad about that. Then I explained to 392 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: him what devil doc means. The Marine Corps doesn't have medics. 393 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: They use Navy cormen. I told him, when you get 394 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: out to the fleet, find a Marine sergeant with a 395 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: couple of purple hearts and tell him devil docks aren't 396 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: real Marines. Be prepared to duck Marines are violently particular 397 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: about who gets to wear their uniform. Navy cormen and 398 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Navy chaplains who had eaten dirt alongside them in combat 399 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: qualify full stop. My dad was Air Force, not even Navy. 400 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: I remember going to VFW Hall's with him as a kid. 401 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: Someone would ask him what service. He'd say Air Force 402 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: and the room would chuckle a little, and then they'd 403 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: find out he was a medic, and the air in 404 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: the room changed something close to reverence. Dad hated being honored. 405 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: He had one line he used to deflect it. I 406 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: didn't do much savior praise for my cousin. The PJ 407 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: that always broke the ice. Pjs are the Air Force 408 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: special operators who go into hell to pull downed pilots out. 409 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: They will take casualties and are prepared to die to 410 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: rescue a single pilot or crewman. The math doesn't math 411 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: out why would any combat force take multiple casualties to 412 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: wreck rescue one Air Force jet jockey. What the padre 413 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: is about to learn is that the military has a 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: hierarchy that has nothing to do with rank and nothing 415 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: to do with the service stitched on your chest. Have 416 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: you deployed. Have you seen combat? In every firefight, there 417 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: are men who move towards the guns and men who 418 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: hang back. And when the guy at the tip of 419 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: the spear is pinned down, bleeding with rounds cracking past 420 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: his head, there is exactly one word, he screams into 421 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: the radio medic. YEP, here's the catch, and it is 422 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: the whole reason Maria fights the way America fights. That 423 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: marine is willing to push forward in the fire because 424 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: he knows the core men is coming. He knows the 425 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Metavac birds will land in the hot LZ. He knows 426 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: the devil doc will drag him out by his plate 427 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: carrier if it comes to that, and if the medic 428 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: can't help he has what Dad called injuries incompatible with life. 429 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: He knows that chaplain will crawl on his belly to 430 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: administer last rites and deliver him to Heaven. The f F 431 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: fifteen pilot punching out over enemy territory knows the same thing. 432 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: He knows the pjs will move Heaven and Earth to 433 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: reach him and turn whatever is shooting at him into 434 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: a smoking crater of hell on Earth on the way in. 435 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: This is the quiet math underneath American violence. Our warriors 436 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: are the fiercest on earth, not because they're the more 437 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: aggressive because they're better trained or better equipped, although though 438 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: they are all of those things. They are the fiercest 439 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: because they know in their bones that when they key 440 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: the mic and call for help, help is coming in hot. 441 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: Take that away, and you don't have the US military anymore, 442 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: you have a security force. I thought that those two 443 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: posts I thought were very insightful and they sum up 444 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: a truly extraordinary and unique aspect of the American military. 445 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: And this brings us to the second part of the 446 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: conversation that is important, and that is a new warning 447 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: center coming from President Trump. If there's anything that I've 448 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: learned from President Trump in the second term, there's two 449 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: aspects of his foreign policy. One is FAFO and two 450 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: is if you're an OWI of the United States of 451 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: America and you don't stand with us, then his second 452 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: foreign policy is, well, good luck to you, because we're 453 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: not gonna We're not gonna keep funding and doing things 454 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: like NATO, Are you in or whatever it may be. 455 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: If you're taking advantage of us, he's calling that out 456 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: as well. And the President has made it clear when 457 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: he tells you there's a deadline for something. 458 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: He means it. 459 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: There's a new deadline with it with Iran and Tehran 460 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: and the leadership there. And let's talk about what his 461 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: new threat is by Tuesday. 462 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 2: Well, on Sunday, he sent out a truth Social that reads, 463 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: Tuesday will be power plant Day and bridge Day all 464 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing 465 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: like it. Oping open the efen straight, you crazy bastards, 466 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: or you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise Be 467 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: to Allah President Donald J. Trump. Now, I will say 468 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: he did not abbreviate effing, but this is a PG 469 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: rated podcast, so I did. I will say also that 470 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: after he sent that truth Social, the Wall Street Journal 471 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: article that I quoted at the beginning of this show 472 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: quotes it. And for the first time I've ever seen 473 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: the F bomb in the Wall Street Journal, they did 474 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: it quoting the President of the United States. I'm not 475 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: aware of any precedent of a president dropping the F bomb, 476 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: But then again, I'm not aware of any president dropping 477 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: the level of bombs that he is dropping in a 478 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: concentrated focus that is having this kind of effect. And look, 479 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: I think Tuesday Night is a very serious deadline. The 480 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: president wants the straight of horn moves open. And if 481 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: you're an Iranian leader as batcrap crazy as those guys are, 482 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they think this is a bluff. 483 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think not now they you're crazy enough 484 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: to just say go ahead and do it. And that 485 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: may be how much they're holding on for dear life 486 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: just to try to stave control. But I agree with you, 487 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they think he's bluffing at all. 488 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the challenge is that the Malas, I 489 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: don't think care at all about their people. You know, 490 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: we talked to before about comparing, say, the Nazi army 491 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: to the Allies during World War Two, that Hitler was 492 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: willing to send German soldiers in to die and just 493 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: have a mode over. I think the same is true 494 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: with the Malas. They're happy to have, not happy, but 495 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: they're willing to have as many Iranians die as need be. 496 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: They believe they're on a mission from God. This is 497 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: it is theocratic and if thousands, look, they murdered the 498 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: Ayatola just murdered about forty thousand Iranians who were rising 499 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: up in protest. So thousands of Iranians dying doesn't bother 500 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: them at all. Tens of thousands doesn't bother them at all. 501 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: It may prove to be the case that hundreds of 502 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: thousands or even millions of Iranians dying doesn't bother them. 503 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: And so the question is, Look, if the US military 504 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: takes out the power plants and takes out the bridges, 505 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: that kind of hard infrastructure that doesn't get rebuilt overnight, 506 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: that has real and long lasting damage to the economy 507 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 2: in Iran. It imposes enormous consequences on Iran. What I 508 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: don't know is does a theocratic mulla who's chanting death 509 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: to America care about inflicting massive misery on the Iranian 510 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: people and devastating the Iranian economy. I guess we'll find 511 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: out by Tuesday. I don't know the answer. 512 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I was asked this question 513 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and it's when I want to ask 514 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: you center. It was someone tod right, Well, look, let's 515 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: say we do this and we knock out their power plant. 516 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: What good does that do is because then we're just 517 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: going to have to help them rebuild it one day. 518 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: My response was, what you don't understand is that may 519 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: be what it is it takes for the people to 520 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: really overthrow their government. It'll also have a devastating impact 521 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: on their military in jail, uneral. 522 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 523 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: And it's another way, it's another way to fast track 524 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: them losing control of their country. That's the reason why 525 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I think the President saying, all right, fine, you guys 526 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: aren't budging, well, then we're going to go to the 527 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: next step here, because I'm not backing down. 528 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and look, the President in his nationwide 529 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: address said he was going to bomb them back into 530 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: the Stone Ages. What's one of the aspects of the 531 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: Stone Ages not having electricity, not having power going back 532 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: to to to to lighting fires for light. You take 533 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: out all their power plants and they have no electricity, 534 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: which is amazing for an oil rich country like Iran. 535 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: But you want to talk about grinding the economy to 536 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: a halt, immediately grinding the military to a halt. Everything 537 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: runs on electricity and and and so shutting down power 538 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, you take out the bridges, that means, 539 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of the things that I've learned. 540 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: I didn't realize when I was a kid how much 541 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: of military effectiveness is logistics. One of the incredible things 542 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: our military is really good at is moving people in 543 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: material getting it in there, getting ammunition in there, getting 544 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: food in there, getting fuel in there, moving it around, 545 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: all of that. Logistically, we are extraordinarily we the military. 546 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: That not you and me. You know, I'm a lawyer 547 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: and you're even worser a podcasts, so we are not 548 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: extraordinary logistically. But but the military is. Notice how I'm 549 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: not a podcaster. Apparently you do this just. 550 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, you just just threw 551 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: me under the bus, so that I'm pretty sure the 552 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: name of the show is behind me there, but we 553 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: just keep going there, we go. 554 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, pot meat kettle. But look, you take 555 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: out the bridges and the ability to move, the military 556 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: to move, but anyone else to move. You basically shut 557 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: down commerce in the country. That puts enormous economic pressure 558 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: on the country. Look, my hope is that the endgame 559 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: on this is the people rise up and say enough 560 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: with these crazy mullahs. We want you out. And my 561 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: objective has always been the President laid out his objective, 562 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: which is to eliminate the Iranian military's ability to strike 563 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: out and kill Americans or kill our allies. That's a 564 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: very important objective. I think the objective should be to 565 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: collapse this regime, to have Iran led by a government 566 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: that is not a crazy Islamist who wants to murder Americans. 567 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't care who it is, as long as they're 568 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: not actively murdering Americans, if they're not murdering Americans, if 569 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: they're not trying to murder Americans, I'm good with it. Now, 570 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: the next step, if we've leveled all the power plants, 571 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: you get a new government in the new government is 572 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: going to have to rebuild the power plants. Now, I 573 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: will note that there is one advantage for rebuilding, which 574 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: is Iran has a crap ton of oil. 575 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so very quickly financially. 576 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: There's a revenue stream. So you said, like people said 577 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: to you, a gosh, we're going to have to rebuild it. 578 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: I promise you if Trump bombs it, the American taxpayers 579 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: are not rebuilding it that there is no scenario in 580 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: which the endgame is Trump writing a check. Now, there 581 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: may be a scenario depending on what happens where when 582 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: you have a new government, if they're a friend and 583 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: ally with America, you could see assistance on the construction 584 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: that is paid for by Iranian oil revenues. It's possible 585 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: that we help them build it back where they're paying 586 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: for it. But I don't envision any universe in which 587 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: America is paying for this. And I think anyone who 588 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: knows Donald Trump knows that's right. 589 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. It's going to be very 590 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens on Tuesday. We are going 591 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: to cover it that I can promise you don't forget. 592 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: We do this show Monday, Wednesday Friday, so hit that 593 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: subscriber auto dowload button. Also, you can watch this episode 594 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: on YouTube as well, so make sure if you're a 595 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: YouTube watching that you put in Verticua Ted Cruise and 596 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: you can watch this show there and the center. I 597 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: will see you back here on Wednesday morning.