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Speaker 1: You're listening to the second and final part of Unexplained,

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Speaker 1: Season seven, episode seventeen, What Lies in the Long Grass.

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Speaker 1: British journalist Tim Leech moved from London in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties to study journalism at the University of Rhodesia renamed

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Speaker 1: the University of Zimbabwe in nineteen eighty. By nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: with almost twenty years experience as a reporter and camera operator,

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Speaker 1: he'd risen to become the BBC's bureau in chief of

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Speaker 1: Southern Africa. He'd covered some of the most devastating events imaginable,

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Speaker 1: from war in Angola to genocide in Rwanda. In the

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Speaker 1: afternoon of September sixteenth, nineteen ninety four, Tim receives a

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Speaker 1: call regarding a strange incident that has just occurred at

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Speaker 1: the aerial school in Rua. Tim immediately calls his friend

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Speaker 1: and UFO researcher, Cynthia Hind. Recognizing the potential for a

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Speaker 1: great story, the pair agreed to investigate it, with that

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Speaker 1: day being a Friday. However, they have to wait until

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Speaker 1: the following Monday to scope it out. Never want to

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Speaker 1: sit on her hands. Within minutes of the call, Cynthia

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Speaker 1: is back on the phone. After making a few more calls,

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Speaker 1: she tracks down a number for Allison, the parent who

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Speaker 1: is staffing the tuck shop in the playground when the

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Speaker 1: children claimed the incident occurred a moment later, and Cynthia

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Speaker 1: is talking directly to Allison and then her ten year

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Speaker 1: old daughter Fifi. As Cynthia listened with a war and

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Speaker 1: patience that few of the other adults had given her,

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Speaker 1: Fifi slowly opens up, carefully, filling Cynthia in with as

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Speaker 1: many details as she could remember, like how a strong

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Speaker 1: wind had swept across the playground just as the bright

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Speaker 1: light had dropped into the trees. She also tell Cynthia

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Speaker 1: about the peculiar little men in black suits, although she

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen them herself. Eleven year old Barry and twelve

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Speaker 1: year old Fungui, however, whom Cynthia also spoke to that night,

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Speaker 1: both attested to having seen the beings. The boys described

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Speaker 1: them as having large black eyes shaped like rugby balls.

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Speaker 1: Both also claimed to experience a weird slowing down of

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Speaker 1: time when they drew close to what they referred to

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Speaker 1: as the ship. When Cynthia finally got off the phone

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Speaker 1: late that evening, it was hard for her to resist

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Speaker 1: the thought that she was quite possibly sitting on one

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Speaker 1: of the most extraordinary close encounters of the third kind

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Speaker 1: the world had ever known. The following Monday, Tim and Cynthia,

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Speaker 1: accompanied by Gunter Hoffer, a friend of Cynthia's and also

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Speaker 1: deep into the pale grass and farmlands of the surrounding countryside.

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Speaker 1: They arrive finally at Aerial School after being greeted by

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Speaker 1: head teacher Colin Mackey. They are promptly led into the

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Speaker 1: staff room, where some of the teachers have assembled to

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Speaker 1: take them through the events of the previous week. None

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Speaker 1: of the teachers want to believe for a second that

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Speaker 1: a ufooh really landed in the school playground, but neither

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Speaker 1: kids could even begin to coordinate a hoax like this

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Speaker 1: if that's what it is. Then Cynthia is handed the drawings.

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Speaker 1: Tim films her. As she examines them one by one.

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Speaker 1: She is instantly struck by the level of detail, but

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Speaker 1: also the subtle differences in each one. This, she believes,

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Speaker 1: A short time later, six children from seventh grade, the

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Speaker 1: whitewashed room to speak with Cynthia. Mister Mackie instructs them

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Speaker 1: for them to settle, then asks each of them if

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Speaker 1: are taken verbatim from Tim Leach's film of the interviews.

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Speaker 1: The first to give their account is Nathaniel. Did it

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Speaker 1: the sides, he says, as he draws a saucer like

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Speaker 1: old Luke, sitting on Nathaniel's left, breaks in. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Could you see his face, asked Cynthia, No, he says softly,

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Speaker 1: And why was he among the trees? It was just

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Speaker 1: in Now. And what's your name, says Cynthia. Trevor, and

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Speaker 1: they went back to a kind of ship. There was

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Speaker 1: Cynthia asks her to show her how big exactly were

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Speaker 1: to the side of the others. And what did you see?

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Speaker 1: She asks? I saw something silver on the ground among

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Speaker 1: And what did the silver thing look like? Asks Cynthia.

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Speaker 1: Tim who's been filming the entire exchange, does his best

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Speaker 1: He thought he'd seen it all, he knew what deception

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Speaker 1: asks twelve year old Guy and Fungi, who Cynthia had

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Speaker 1: He thought they were messing around or that someone had

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Speaker 1: In Zulu mythology, the tokoloshi is a short, malicious water

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Speaker 1: Harvard Professor of psychology doctor John Mack. In the early

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Speaker 1: these moments as paradigm shifts. In May nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: doctor John Mack, in his capacity as a professor of

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