WEBVTT - Draft Show: Under The Radar Picks 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:08.879 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.640 room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.360 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frescope, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:26.760 Dallas Cowboys Liked d Lambs, Your host Kyle Yeoman's live 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.360 from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We have a PSA 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.720 announcement for every draft nerd that continues to listen to 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:39.320 this podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, it is officially Draft month 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.040 as April is here. It's a Thursday edition of the 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.479 Draft Show here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, as always 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.840 presented by Miller Lite. We're so glad you've been along 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.559 with us throughout the ride. This is crazy. This is 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.640 episode number thirty two since we started this journey back 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.880 in December, so it's been quite some time together and 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.600 we're mixing and matching the cruise. We've got David Hellman 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.280 in studio here at the SWBC Mortgage Studios, and we've 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.839 got Katie and Bucky Brooks on for the same show 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.600 for the first time this year. But gentlemen, we all 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.440 just kind of have to look at Bucky Brooks background 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.280 and say he wins because I mean, goodness, gracious, he's 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.080 got the bookshelves, he's got everything working. I know it's 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.160 draft month, Bucky, but it's it's not that serious to 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.600 where you have to go from your your your background 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.360 to that. I mean, you don't have to outdo us 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.759 like that. I mean a little moonlighting. So here at 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.840 a Filmpdia's studios and so yeah, I got a nice backdrop. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.320 It looks like my home office is all of a 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.000 sudden a new decorps. Katie. You're trying to keep up, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.640 I think at this point right oh absolutely, It's it's 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.760 pretty wild. I'm kind of tripping out because I always 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.400 see Bucky on TV like all the time. Like I 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.520 was like, oh, all right, new show Bucky this week. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.480 This is awesome. But Bucky's like, all way, Bucky might 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.280 be on TV behind me right now. Like it's a 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.920 good bit doing something and it's pretty incredible, you know, Dave. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.519 I saw Kyle Kyle, you were doing play by play 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.760 of the unt basketball games and the Comfort USA Tournament. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.239 I was like, all these people I work with you 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.280 are doing cool things and then spare then there's me. No, no, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.520 I'm with you, man. I'm just alternating between the studio 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.200 and my couch. That's I'm laughing at Kyle because he's like, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.400 it's it's Draft month, it's getting close, and I'm like, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.799 we gotta do this for another month yet, Like I'm 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.360 I mean, I love the draft, don't mistake me. But 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.800 like I'm reaching that point in the process where, you know, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.720 we've been talking about this since before New Year's and 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.280 now like everybody else is jumping into the into the pool, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.639 like all the casuals, if you will, the casuals now, 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.520 you know, free agency's over and everybody's got to take now. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.320 And I'm just like, I don't want to hear it 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.200 from y'all, Like leave the draft to the draft people, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.920 and y'all go worry about something else. See. And that's 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.959 the fun part about it is because most of the 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.560 listeners to this show have been with us since de 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.720 sim I'm not talking to you if you're listening to 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.679 the Draft Show. If you're listening to the Draft Show, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.320 you're good. I'm talking to like, you know, like we 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:15.040 just National TV is just that all these pro days. Yeah, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.519 my Twitter timeline is full of people that are like, oh, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.200 this this Kyle Pitts guy seems talented and like oh 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:26.520 really tell me more. Come on all right anyway, ran see. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.960 And that's the good part about being in the position 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.720 that we're in is because we we have we want 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.400 people to come and be a part of the draft nation, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.360 right like you want people to come in and be 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.480 a part of the deep draft analysis that we have. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.600 And at the same time, there's gonna be names that 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.440 they've never heard of on Draft Day that we're gonna 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.440 be like, Oh, yeah, I've loved that guy since November 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.600 like that, that's been a guy that we've really been tabbed. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.520 But Kat came up with a great idea in our 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.280 group message, and we want to give love to the 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:59.120 guys who haven't necessarily gotten that same kind of love. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.600 Not necessarily a Day three pick. We're not necessarily talking 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.960 about guys that are that are lower tier players like 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.800 these sleepers, these pet cats. We're talking about guys who 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.000 are really really good players but maybe don't get the 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.560 pub as we talk about maybe a Kyle Pitts or 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.520 any of the guys that are on the Draft magazine 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.320 that you can also get on Dallas Cowboys dot com 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.159 plug but any of those guys that you may not 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.520 hear us talk about a ton, but we definitely deserve 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.880 to talk about So, Katie, I know you've got a 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.560 name already lined up or a couple names already lined up. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.279 How about you start us off. Tell me about a 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.679 guy that's been under the radar in terms of talking 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.200 about them, but it's definitely not under the radar in 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.560 terms of the talent that he brings. Yeah. No, no, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.240 I've got a few names that. Look, I think some 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.880 of these guys might even be household names, or at 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.400 least to those who follow the draft quite closely. And 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.560 I know that we don't talk about running backs a ton, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.400 especially when the Cowboys are kind of set it running back, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.040 but we do cover the entire draft here of the 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.240 Draft show as well, And like I know, Javontay Williams 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.040 from North Carolina is awesome and some of the most 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.520 fun tape I've ever watched. And you just don't hear 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.480 people talking about a much unless you get into a deep, 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.320 you know, running back discussion. And I just think javont 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.200 Williams from North Carolina needs to be talked about more 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.000 because that guy's awesome. I know, my part of it 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.520 might be because he's Michael Carter, you know, his buddy 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.400 at North Carolina is getting some shine too, and he's 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.360 a heck of a runner in his own right. But 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.279 I just think Javonta Williams is special, and I'm not 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.919 sure people were talking about him like that. Would you 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.560 guys agree at all? You know, here's the funny thing. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.560 Haven't gone to North Carolina watched all the games this year. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.400 It's remarkable that this was a guy that was more 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.760 of a walk on candidate. He's a guy to play 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.760 linebacker primarily in high school, he was valedictorian. He had 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.560 offers from the likes of Harvard and Yale, and yet 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.040 he ends up at North Carolina and he becomes this beast. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.559 And so when you look at him and Michael Carter, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.560 Javonte Williams push the ball into pain And to me, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.120 he's a quintessential prototypical number one running back that can 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.279 run it. He can do an inside and outside. He 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.479 has bursts, he can go with power or finest, and 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.479 he can catch the ball out of the backfield. I 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.320 think his best game is at the next level because 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.080 I think he is an NFL running back when you 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.400 look at him. That raises an interesting question, and I 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.159 love the concept of this is like, we're definitely not 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.440 talking about sleepers. No, we're talking I mean, he's going 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.719 to be the first or second running back drafting, But 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.159 Naji Harris is a much more well known name. And yeah, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.640 I'm curious how y'all compare those two because I think 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.840 any you know, anybody that follows college football or the 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.720 draft knows about Naji and maybe not Williams. So I'm 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:51.160 just curious. It's interesting because I think you start with 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.479 running backs now, and as we've gone down this path 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.320 over the past few years of I mean, I think 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.159 devaluing the running backs a little too harsh. But maybe 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.200 when it does come to draft inventory, I feel like 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.920 you don't see the Cowboys maybe one of the last 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.120 teams to draft running back in the top five, Like, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.600 you may not see this a ton moving forward. I 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.760 was started thinking the other day. I was asking myself, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.480 are we talking about, like if I had to do 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.960 the prop bet thing, are we talking about one and 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.200 over under one and a half running backs drafted in 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.960 the first round? That probably the number, But running backs 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.400 they think are an excellent pick in the first round 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.280 for those teams who were close and have a good 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.400 roster and are picking on the back end of the 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.720 first rateity. I mean, we saw it last year. Kansas 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.000 City took Clyde Edwards Hilaria of LSU and unfortunately he 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.680 got hurt. But you know, I was I was like 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.720 kind of shocked to see a team like Green Band 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.800 when they signed Aaron Jones, so they were picking at thirty. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:43.840 I was like, you can kind of just pop it 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.560 on the running back right there, not that Aaron Jones. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.400 You know, do you pay your guys who you think 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.280 are good players. But I said, though, it was really 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.160 interesting that we might be looking at a draft with 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.880 maybe just one running back take it in the first 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.520 round this year, maybe two depending on who I was 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.480 etn as well, And I just kind of think Javonte 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.760 Williams deserves to be in that discussion with Harris and 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.880 Eten personally. You know, KT is funny because I think 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.440 when you talk to people inside, they believe Javontay Williams 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.280 is not only in that discussion, but there's some that 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.760 believe he is number one in that discussion, and so 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.600 it wouldn't be a surprise if he does come off 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.120 the board before Naja, Harris and Etienne. I think to 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.760 think about Naja Harris. I actually feel like, even though 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.760 Naja Harris has talked about, I feel like his game 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.840 is underappreciated because most and most times, or maybe in 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.559 old school football, when you see someone of his size 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.280 who can run with power, who also can go outside 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.640 and catch the ball. We were talking about him like 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.400 we used to rave about Levyan Bill in his prime, 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.600 because I see Naja Harris not as a Levyan Bill 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.560 player in terms stylistically, He's more like Matt Forte. But 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.840 he's still talking about and RB one wide receiver two, 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.600 someone who can maybe put up twelve to thirteen hundred 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.040 rushing yards and also give you seventy five to eighty 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.280 catches if you want to utilize him in that and 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.360 that life. Now, Bucky, do you think that's kind of 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.560 a direct correspondent with how the running back position is 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.280 going in today's NFL. Because he's a hell of a player. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.679 I mean, you look at any college football game and 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.280 any time that he was on the field, he was dominant. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.800 I mean, he goes out and he's just a physical freak. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 Like you said, his versatility as a receiver along with 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.520 being a tailback is something that teams are going to 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.960 value whenever he gets to the NFL. But is it 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.000 just because of the running back position, maybe the shelf life, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.280 maybe things like that. In the way that the NFL 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.120 game is going that kind of devalues the way that 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.840 we talk about Najia Harris from a draft standpoint, well, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.920 I think I think the drumbeat has gotten loud on 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.880 the outside, Like when you have what they call him, 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.040 the nerds or the quants talking about the analytics will 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.160 say that you can get a running back anywhere. I 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:54.160 believe it's really this. It depends how you want to 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.320 build your team, because I would say it's better to 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.120 draft the running back in the first realm, but never 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.880 pay him after that original rookie deal, meaning draft him, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.120 signed him on franchise tags, and extended that way because 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.600 that's the most cost effective model. The other thing people 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.840 are doing is because they've seen the Shanahan's have success 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.160 kind of finding running backs anywhere and everywhere. There's a 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.120 belief that you can find those guys anywhere and everywhere. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.760 The true sweet spot were running backs the second and 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.800 third round. If you look at the majority of the 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.400 Pro Bowl players, they've come from the second and third 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.080 round when it comes to the running back position. You 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.800 know another player that I have in this boat of 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.360 you know, guys that I think deserve to get a 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.880 little more pub nationally. You know, I think we've seen 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.079 him as a good player, and this will kind of 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.560 get Cowboys fans involved because they don't need a cornerback. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.400 But Eric Stokes of Georgia. I really like Eric Stokes 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.560 of Georgia. Only sixteen receptions allowed last year and the 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.840 longest passing gave up was eighteen yards. And I know 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.400 part of maybe this might be kind of the Javonte 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.480 Williams thing and that he's got a teammate who's gonna 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.760 get drafted at the same position, Tyson Campbell. But I 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.800 think Eric Stokes needs to be talked about a lot 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.320 more because I really don't think he makes it to 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.320 forty four where the Cowboys picking the second round. I 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.880 love that thought process because that's on it. Like when 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.000 you told me this idea, that's and I'll get to 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.280 a guy that I want to talk about in a 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.000 sec but you know, you just kind of get sidetracked 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.800 in the conversation. I mean, and rightfully so. With all 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.960 these great cornerbacks that are available to you at the 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.440 top of the draft. But I wonder if sometimes we 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.200 get tunnel vision with the idea like locking in on 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.720 that tenth pick, and it's like, I mean, you're picking 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.839 in the top fifty in the second round, like they're 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.839 going to be really good prospects available and a few corners. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.840 I mean, I've brought up Tyson Campbell on you know, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.040 with Bucky and Brian more times than I can count, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.120 so I won't do it here, but both of both 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.160 of those guys honestly underrated players, multi year starters in 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.680 the SEC. And yeah, I think that's that's the only 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.760 worry there is. He might be so good that he 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.760 doesn't even last to you in the second round. Well 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.360 kind of interesting too because we talk about guys like 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.400 Elijah Molden, Greg Newson, Tyson Campbell, and we kind of 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.800 mentioned those names on in multiple times, but Stokes is 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.760 one of the guys that kind of gets left out. So, Katie, 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.400 whenever you're talking about Stokes, what's different about him to 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.240 wear Cowboys fans? If he were to be a pick 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.640 at forty four, what would get you excited about it? 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.320 I have him as my fifth rated corner, but I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.320 want to hear what you have to say about what 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.400 he brings. That's a little bit different than maybe some 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.480 of the guys we have mentioned. No, no, absolutely, And 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.080 I think first of all, his speed stands out. We 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.640 didn't need to see his pro date time to know 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.400 that he's fast, true, very fast player. I think with him, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.840 you do. He might be a little and I think 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.120 slight maybe maybe too negative of a word, but you 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.800 would like him maybe to get off blocks a little 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.280 bit better on the outside and things like that. Like 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.360 I don't think he is a bad tackler. I think 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.760 he tries, but I wouldn't, you know, call him a 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.520 good tackler either, And that's very important to me when 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.400 building a team, is you know, tackling getting the guys 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.080 to the ground. But I think he just does a 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.640 really good job of anticipating routes and things like that. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.240 We know the straight line speed is there. I think 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.439 he showed that he's able to fight through traffic when 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.720 he's carrying a man across the field. Again, the Tyson 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.880 Campbell traits do jump out and you go, WHOA, I 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.280 see it. But I think Eric Stokes is a little better, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.520 more polished corner right now. And maybe even a safer 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.640 pick if you want to say that. I think Eric 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.960 Stokes looks very qualified and prepared and does a good 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.640 job of playing the ball down the field and things 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.319 like that and finding the ball, and I really, you know, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.840 kind of value that. And you know, again, it's not 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.120 like he's a like we're talking about this guy like 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.800 he's a sleeper or anything, because I think we're talking 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.160 about ten cornerbacks that go in the top sixty. I 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.200 think that's very possible. Yeah, and I think he deserves 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.959 to be one of those first few guys. I think. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.600 I mean, I've got him his cornerback four, so you know, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.120 this is this is where it kind of gets a 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.880 lot of fun I have admittedly dropped Farley because of 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.720 the back thing, but I think Eric Stokes, I feel 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.240 like he's kind of flying under the radar. Are a 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.520 tad because, like you said, we're talking about Molden. We 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.079 talked about him all the time. Aaron Robinson might be 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.160 another guy from Central Florida that maybe it's kind of 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.560 getting glossed over a little bit. Yeah, I think it's 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.600 funny when we look at these cornerbacks right the depth 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.040 in this year's class to me wide receiver, running backs, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.000 and cornerbacks. I believe that if you need those guys, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.920 that you could bypass those positions in the first round 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.160 and get comfortable value in the second and third rounds 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.000 and a lot of it. As it relates to the Cowboys, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.200 you know, we've kind of been pigeonholding the thinking that 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.400 they have to take a corner at ten. But really, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.520 when we think about this system that dan Quinn is 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.440 bringing in, it's a cover three system. It's really a 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.480 zone system with some man stuff or whatever. So how 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.400 much value do they put in that position in terms 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.760 of draft capital? Can you find someone who has long 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.400 range you with ball skills in the second and third 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.760 round that command that and maybe you use that tenth 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.160 pick to get a pass rusher, to get a a 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.640 playmaker on offense and office alignment or whatever that is. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.440 I do want to internally how it stacks in the 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:12.440 war room the priority positions. Yeah, and we've kind of 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.760 I mean, that's been the debate that we've had. I 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.960 think around this show and around the building. Is is 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.960 it okay to be pigeonholed for a corner at ten? 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.440 Is it okay for that? But I mean I don't 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 think it's okay to be pigeonholed anywhere whenever it comes 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.600 to the drafts, especially with a premium pig. Yeah, but 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.560 I mean you just are always looking at where the 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.200 value lines up, and that's and so I want to 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.440 bring this guy up because you know, we talk about dbs, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.240 we talk about tackles, tight ends, and I think I 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.560 don't want to speak for everybody. I've talked about this 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.800 on Twitter a lot, like, is there is there a 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.840 pass rusher at ten that you would feel great about 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:55.520 the Cowboys drafting? No? I don't know. So yeah, Bucky, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.320 do you agree? Now? I don't. I don't think there's 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.000 one word be in a top ten s election, So okay, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.120 and I so we're all in agreement there. So now 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.800 I'm thinking where might you be able to find one? 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.280 And that's where this guy comes back into play. He's 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.920 definitely like he's a known name. And I feel like 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.320 this happens every year we zero in on the Senior 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.000 Bowl guys. We get really excited about the Senior Bowl guys, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.640 but the vast majority of the best prospects are not 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.320 They're underclass so we get distracted by all of these 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.000 other great underclassmen players and the Senior Bowl guys kind 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.400 of fall by the wayside. And that's how I'm feeling 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:36.600 about Carlos Basham right now, because I thought he's one 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.920 of the first things we mentioned. He was he was 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.000 in the first group of players that we mentioned. But 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.720 have we talked about him a lot ever since? Probably not. No, 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.040 he bullied Trey Smith at the Senior Bowl, Like I thought, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.120 he looked really good in the practice footage that I 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.240 was able to watch from my couch. I didn't get 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.280 to go to Mobile this year. And then he shows 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.480 up at his pro day, and I know you can't 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.720 completely trust these times and things at pros because it's 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.840 not electronic, but like an unofficial four or five nine 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.080 in the forty had a nice three cone thirty four 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.560 inch vert, Like I feel like the book on this 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.600 guy was that he's like a try hard guy, but 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.480 not a super good athlete. The numbers are athletic, The 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.160 numbers seem to disagree with that. So now I'm sitting 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.240 here thinking like, could this be a really nice pick 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.400 to make it forty four if he even lasts that long. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.359 You know, the funny thing is I can't really understand 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.639 why Boogie Basham has not been talked about more is 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.560 one of the conversations that I've had with people like 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.720 and for whatever reason, the love on the streets hasn't 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.160 been out there as heavy as you would like to think, 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:43.840 because last year, when I looked at him, when I 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.040 thought he was coming out, I thought the dude was 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.240 like one of the best that I've seen in terms 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.040 of his hand skills and being able to make it 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.280 happen turning speed in the power and then when you 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.560 think about the versatility, the twitch, the fact that he 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.119 not only is explosive with twitch but also as a 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.000 high mortar guy, there's a lot to like about him. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.040 And so I can't understand why he is underrated and 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.119 not really discussed as one of the top guys because 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.040 all the things that you look at, you just check 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.760 off all the boxes he would he should be someone 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.960 that we talk about as a first round prospect, but 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.360 we're not. I agree, And that's another name like I'm 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.200 That's why I wanted to do this exercise, because I mean, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.520 he's a guy. I think if you're picking at forty 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.240 four where the Cowboys are, he's a guy you might 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.320 circle and go, you know what, let's let's spend some 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.080 inventory and let's move up because he's not getting to 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.600 you at forty four. I don't I don't see that happening. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.520 I would be I would be shocked if that happened. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.600 And that's right, kind of go okay, well how far 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.280 does he fall? Do you want to get up to 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.520 the mid thirties? And that would you know, that would 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.560 cost you a little bit. That might cost you your 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.879 third round pick or maybe cost you your your second 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.320 third round pick at pick ninety nine. You kind of 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.359 jumped those together. Maybe you can get up into the 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.520 thirties and maybe he's there. So that's a that's a 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.960 name of that you brought up, Dave. That's this is 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.399 a success story. The second idea A success story. Oh 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.080 I like this because you're just sitting around talking about guys. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.440 Can you see all your ideas are good? Yeah? Or 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:16.280 most of them? Anyway? Thank you? Now, yeah you should uh, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.800 you should tell my family that they don't tell you. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:23.360 Totally believe that, but yes, that's gracious. Now, yeah, did 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.520 uh kind of going off of boogie basham and kind 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.359 of that edge rusher thought mentality. I mean, we've talked 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.840 a lot about corners, and we've talked a lot about 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.480 offensive tackles in the first round and then maybe trying 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.199 to address it later on. But edge Rusher hasn't been 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.720 up there. But we've also I don't know if it 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.359 was on this show or if it was on any 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.000 of the other shows that I do, whatever it is, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.000