1 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Affne. The program 2 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to the 4 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: glory of God and his Kingdom. We're on the road. 5 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: We are in Texas at our duty station here working 6 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: on a campaign to try to prevent Sharia from taking 7 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: over the state. We'll be talking more about that in 8 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: the course of the program, but before we do, I'm 9 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: delighted to be able to welcome back one of the 10 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: most remarkable former naval intelligence officers I think of all time, 11 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: certainly of His name is Captain James Finnell, United States Navy, retired. 12 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: He served in his last duty station as the Chief 13 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: of Intelligence and Information Operations for the US Pacific Fleet. 14 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: He kept thereby a very distinguished rendering of service to 15 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: our country. But it continues, I'm pleased to say, notably 16 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: through the work that he provides through a very influential 17 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Google group called Red Storm Risen, as well as in 18 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: his writings A Great American Greatness, Excuse Me, as well 19 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: as his terrific book entitled Embracing Communist China, America's greatest 20 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: strategic failure. We're going to talk a little bit about 21 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: that in a moment, but before we do, I did 22 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: want to just say, first of all, Captain welcome back aboard. 23 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: It's always good to have you with us. Thank you 24 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: for giving so generously of your time to this program. 25 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Frank, good to be with you. 26 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: And also I should say you were a member of 27 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: our Committee on the president Danger of China. You frequently 28 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: contribute to its work as well, including our wonderful webinar 29 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: series focused on the well the problem of the enemy 30 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: within the unrestricted warfare that the Chinese have used a 31 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: great effect with the help of those who embrace communists China. 32 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that again in a moment, but before 33 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: we do, Jim, I wanted to pick up on something 34 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: that you've called my attention. Bill Gertz wrote it up 35 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: in the Washington Times. A fellow and I'm not quite 36 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: sure how to pronounce his last name. It's yea w 37 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: yea yo y yeah, whatever. Christopher is his first name. 38 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: He's an Assistant Secretary of State, responsible for arms control 39 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and non proliferation, and he testified the other day about 40 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: something that his boss, the Undersecretary of State, had lit 41 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: up that made clear the Chinese Communist Party has been 42 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: doing nuclear testing to advance the capabilities of an arsenal 43 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: design to destroy our country, and this was both an 44 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: important confirmation of what has long been suspected. I think 45 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: they've also indicated that the Russians are doing the same. 46 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about a couple of 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: pieces of this, Jim. But first of all, what this 48 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: assistant secretary has said is that this activity on the 49 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: part of the Chinese, which has not been reciprocated to 50 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: date by our government, is creating what he called an 51 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: intolerable disadvantage for the United States. How do you see 52 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: all this, and in particular the parlous state of our 53 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: nuclear deterrence as a result, among other things, of not 54 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: having done nuclear testing since nineteen ninety two. 55 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank. The Christopher Yo's statement that he gave out 56 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: I think it was around the nineteenth or so or 57 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: a little bit before that, mirrors what Tom Denano gave 58 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: in Geneva. And they both referenced that China had conducted 59 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: a test in June of twenty twenty, which is in 60 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: violation of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Band Treating and the 61 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: Chinese reacted to the Nano speech. And now the Chinese 62 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: again just yesterday spoke out. Their Foreign Ministry spokesman criticized 63 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: Christopher Yao's statement, but they didn't say that. They didn't 64 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: deny flat out that they had done the test. They 65 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: said they abide by the intense and the spirit of 66 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: the Compransive Test Round treating. Essentially, it was pretty clear 67 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: that they did test something. Christophrio's statement said it was 68 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: a two point seventy five mega ton or what do 69 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: you call it, point seventy five magnitude on the seismic scale, 70 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: So it was something that was registered. But we have 71 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: difficulty measuring things there because we don't have they're not 72 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: part of any non polariferation agreement where there's ability to 73 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: put in seismic tests or other kind of testing equipment 74 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: to verify and ensure things like this aren't happening. And 75 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: what's important is that Christophio's statement said he believed they're 76 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: preparing for another one right now, six years later. So 77 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: we are on the cusp of another Chinese nuclear test. 78 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: It's in clear violation of this treaty and what it 79 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: means for us, as you just said, we haven't done 80 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: anything like that since nineteen ninety two. Frequently, critics here, 81 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: especially in Europe I've encountered, they'll say, well, you did 82 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of tests before nineteen ninety two, and 83 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, we did. We did a lot 84 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: of testing before nineteen ninety two. So did China and 85 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: so did Russia. But in the last what is that 86 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 2: twenty six or eight thirty four years, Things change, technology changes, 87 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, all kinds of new capabilities and ways to 88 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: improve nuclear weapons and make them more lethal, make them 89 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: more powerful, or design I sometimes think about I had 90 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: cancer in nineteen eighty eight. I spent a year in 91 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: the hospital just about and if I had been, you know, 92 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: gotten that cancer ten years before, I would have likely 93 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: died because the technology hadn't been developed as the chemo 94 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: and all of that and this. And today people that 95 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: go through the same kind of cancer that I have 96 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: have a much easier time because of the new technology. 97 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: So it's disingenuous for the Chinese, and we know that 98 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: it's disingenuous for them to say that, well, you tested 99 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: once and so that's all you have to ever do. 100 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous and so. 101 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Well Jim, and it was a particular concern to me, 102 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: and you know, this was my brief when I was 103 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: in the Pentagon and the Origan administration and argued strenuously 104 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: against a cessation of nuclear testing. By the way, the 105 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: arsenal that President Reagan modernized really across the board is 106 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: basically the arsenal we still have, which is, you know, 107 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: decades beyond its design shelf life. And the thing that's 108 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: very worrying about that is, at some point the credibility 109 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: of your deterrent degrades, the confidence that we have in 110 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: it for one thing, but even more importantly arguably the 111 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: confidence that our adversaries have that it's up to snuff, 112 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: that it would cause unacceptable catastrophic damage to them if 113 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: they try to attack us or engage in another behavior 114 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: that we couldn't tolerate. That whole, you know, fundamental premise 115 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: of deterrence is over the side. And it's worrying in 116 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: the extreme that what they've understood, the Russians and the Chinese, 117 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: by the way, have understood is if you have a 118 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: nuclear enterprise, if you rely on nuclear weapons for deterrence, 119 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that they are going to 120 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: work properly, and you know by the way that as 121 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: you modernize the force, that you're validating that it will work. 122 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: You know, this is something I think that has been 123 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: underpinning the enormous number of nuclear weapons and weapons delivery 124 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: systems that both countries have been You know, it's brought 125 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: to bear against us, especially now increasingly it appears jointly 126 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: against us, and your thoughts. 127 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Are, yeah, I one hundred percent agree. We have to 128 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: be able to test end to end with the new 129 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: modernized equipment. We have to make sure that it can 130 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: all work, and there's ways to do that that safe 131 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: and secure. So it's not a threat to maykind. And 132 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: certainly if the Chinese are doing it, and allegedly the 133 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: Russis are preparing as well, we have serious concerns about that. 134 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: And it is it's an old arsenal. It needs to 135 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: be upgraded. And we have. 136 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: And Jim forty five seconds on the fact that they 137 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: are apparently going to considerable lengths to decouple the seismic signatures, 138 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: and what does that tell us about their purposes here? 139 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: Right? That's exactly what it tells us that they're working 140 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: ahead and doing everything to make their force credible. And 141 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: not just a survivable second strike force, but really to 142 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: make it a first strike force. And we you know, 143 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifteen new silos in the last five 144 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: years out in central and western China. That's no accident. 145 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: That's aggressive, as the former commander of Stratcom said, a 146 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: nuclear breakout. 147 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: We're told those missiles could have as many as ten 148 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: warheads on them, which would increase substantially their capabilities greater 149 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: than ours. By the way, in this space, Jim, we 150 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: have to take a short break. We'll be right back 151 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: with Mark, with Captain jam Fel Unit States maybe retired State. 152 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: We're back, and so is Captain James Fannel, United States Navy, retired. 153 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Praise the Lord, the co author with doctor Bradley Fair 154 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: of a very very important book entitled Embracing Communist China, 155 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: America's Greatest Strategic Failure. And Jim, I wanted to talk 156 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: to you about this phenomenon against the backdrop of something 157 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: that recently came to light, and that is that an 158 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: instructor pilot with F thirty five's and I'm not sure 159 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: what service he was with, but he's charged with having 160 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: compromised secrets involving that platform and even I understand it, 161 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: offering to train the Chinese in its capabilities has has 162 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: now been you know booked for you know, treachory, treason, 163 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. He made the point 164 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: in one of these communications. I think it's it's in 165 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: your American Greatness article if I'm not mistaken that you 166 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people who have culpability 167 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: for trying to, as you put it, embrace communists China. 168 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: How do you net this out as to you know, 169 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: the degree to which that kind of conduct at the 170 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: highest levels of our government. And I would include, by 171 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: the way, the former President of the United States Joe Biden, 172 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: who we talked about all the time on this program 173 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: thanks to Sam Fattis as a control asset of the 174 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, very much involved in embracing them during 175 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: his time in office. What should we know about this 176 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: practice and the degree to which people down the food 177 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: chain then't excuse their behavior, needless to say, but they've 178 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of company and there ought to be 179 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: accountability up the. 180 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank. This officer was a retired US Air Force 181 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: major and he'd served for twenty four years. He retired 182 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six. So he fought at the very 183 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: end of the Vietnam War and participated in that conflict, 184 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: and it served this country honorably apparently until retirement, and 185 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: then came out and became an instructor pilot, as you noted, 186 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: with the F thirty five program. And then he found 187 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: it in his capacity to say, hey, I want to 188 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: get involved with the person that's offering up training aviation 189 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: training to the PLA Air Force. And there's emails with 190 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: him communicating say, hey, this is going to be great. 191 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,479 Speaker 2: I'm going back to China. I'm going to help instruct 192 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: fighter pilots again, this time PLA Air Force. It's incredible 193 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: to think that somebody's sixty five years old today. I'm 194 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: sixty three to think that somebody from my generation could 195 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: do something like that. But and even more astounding is 196 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: the fact that we just had a big expose in 197 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: the last couple of years about a Marine captain down 198 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: in Australia. It was an American US Marine Corps pilot 199 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: that moved to Australia and started training as well. And 200 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: he's been indicted and back in the States and I 201 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: don't know his current status, but he's going to go 202 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: to jail probably or may go to jail. That's been 203 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: very highly training Chinese pilots in China, but he's he 204 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: emigrated to Australia's Australian white so that was in the news. 205 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: So anybody that's involved with aviation, whether you're in the 206 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: Navy of the Air Force, you knew about this. So 207 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: that's one thing. There's no excuse for what he did. 208 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: But on the other hand, we have had, as our 209 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: book says, you know, embracing Communist China America's greatest strategic 210 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: failure since we recognized China in nineteen seventy nine. We've 211 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: had Republican and Democrat administrations that pushed for engagement, but 212 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: some pushed more than others. And I would say that 213 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: the Obama and Biden administrations pushed very, very hard for 214 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: military to military engagement. And we had a former chairman 215 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: of the Joint chiefs of Staff, you know, was quoted 216 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: in a book that he wrote saying that he actually 217 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: communicated with his counterpart in China to say, Hey, I 218 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: want to assuaze your fears. If Trump does something crazy, 219 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: I'll let you know so you won't be surprised. That 220 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: was a chairman. Then we had the former commander of 221 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: the US into Pacific Command, an officer I served with 222 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: Admiral John Lung Aquilino, who was the commander of the 223 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: Pacific Fleet and then the Pacific Command. He went on 224 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: think think it was a CNN or NPR and did 225 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: our PBS and did a big special and he talked 226 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: about his greatest frustration as the commander of the US 227 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: Indo Pacific Command was that he had spent a year 228 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: and a half trying to get in contact with his 229 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: counterpart in the PRC so that he could open and 230 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: establish communications with them. And then we have countless think 231 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: tanks in Washington, d C. We have the Chinese propaganda. 232 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Everybody is pushing for more mill to mill engagement. So 233 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: is it any wonder that some officers may not follow 234 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: politics and policies and say, well, if my president's doing it, 235 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: if my chairman's doing it, if my commander the Indo 236 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: Pacific Command is doing it. And there's more than just Lung, 237 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: there's other Pacific Command commanders that have talked about this, 238 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: then we have a problem where we're not being smart 239 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: as leaders to think about what are the words of 240 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: a leader mean to the whole pyramid. So you may 241 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: be the chairman, you may be the commander of Indo Pakon, 242 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: but there's legions of people under you, and when you 243 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: say things like that, there's results. And now we know 244 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: that we had somebody going over there training PLA Air 245 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: Force pilots from an instructor that taught American pilots how 246 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: to fly the F thirty five, our latest greatest aircraft 247 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: that we have in our inventory. It's outstanding that we're 248 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: in this position. It's not outstanding. It's outrageous that we're 249 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: in this position. It's outstanding that it's unacceptable that we 250 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: allow these kind of leaders to get away with this. 251 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: And I know that the new National Defense Strategy says 252 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: we should push for engagement. I didn't like to see 253 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: that in there. It's in there, but we need to 254 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: make sure that we are not pushing. We need to 255 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: have some better education for our personnel. Engagement may mean 256 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: that the chairman or the commander of the Indo Paycon 257 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: are talking to their counterparts on select events that the 258 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: President approves of, but doesn't mean that the rest of 259 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: the chain of command gets to do that. And our 260 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: policy isn't to give away secrets and we have lost 261 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: that razor's edge and that loose lips sykh ship's mindset. 262 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: There will be rape percussions. What this man did could 263 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: end up in a more Americans being killed. 264 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy and battles being lost as well. Yes, and 265 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: Jim on this whole idea of military to military as 266 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: you put a mill mill exchanges. There has been a 267 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: past track record of inviting Chinese military personnel to observe 268 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: exercise major exercise in the Pacific called rim Pack that 269 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: was suspended, thankfully by President Trump. I think in his 270 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: previous term talk a little bit about the inadvisability of 271 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: bringing them truly inside the tent, inside the wire, and 272 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: whether this is going to be resumed again for unknown reasons. 273 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: Yes, Frank, the rim of the Pacific exercise is the 274 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: largest naval exercise in the world. It's in the Pacific, 275 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: centered in Hawaii. The Chinese were invited by Obama's SECTEF 276 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, and twenty sixteen. Thankfully President 277 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: Trump disinvited them, did not invite them for twenty eighteen 278 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: and it didn't reoccur because of COVID and other things. 279 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: And then Biden was they didn't invite them. But now 280 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: the Chinese in the Global Times about three weeks ago 281 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: had an article hinting at wouldn't it be great if 282 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: the PLA Navy was invited back to RIMPEC. So I'm 283 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: very concerned that when President Trump goes to Beijing here 284 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: on thirty first of March, that the Chinese will get 285 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: him in a corner and try to sell him on 286 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: inviting the PLA Navy inside Pearl Harbor, which is where 287 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: they're ships were in twenty fourteen. And that is an 288 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: intelligence disaster of the highest order, not only from the 289 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: risk to what we lose, but we don't gain anything 290 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: because they send some hospital ship and things of that nature, 291 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: but they have thousands of sailors that were scouring all 292 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: over Pearl Harbor US Naval installation during twenty fourteen. I 293 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: witnessed it. So this should not be allowed to happen. 294 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: I know that there's been reports, so we're written out 295 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen that said it wasn't that big of 296 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: a risk. But I'm telling you it's a massive intelligence 297 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: boom for the PLA. They haven't been there in many years, 298 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: and so they'll get all new data sets in terms 299 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: of cyber and telephones and all of that kind of 300 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: electronic intelligence. It's a major mistake. We shouldn't do it. 301 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: They haven't asked yet, but I'm worried that they will. 302 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and possibly not just with Trump in a corner 303 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: in Beijing, but preemptively as a concession to Luberwiskygociations. Jim, 304 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: we have to believe it at that. Thank you so 305 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: much for visiting. As always, we so appreciate it. Come 306 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: back to us next week if you would. Meantime, Gossipe, 307 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: let's keep up the great work you do at the 308 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Geneva Center for Security Policy. 309 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: Bere at back, folks. 310 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back. We are joined now by Peter mceilven at, 311 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: one of our great well freedom fighting heroes in the 312 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: United Kingdom. He is going to be joining us to 313 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: talk a bit about what's happening in that country, but 314 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: also what he's watching very closely taking place in ours, 315 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: notably in the state of Texas. I want to give 316 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: you a little context of my own for our discussion 317 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: with Peter. President Trump will visit Corpus Christi tomorrow. He 318 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: will be talking about economic issues and promoting his preferred 319 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: candidates in next week's Republican primary election. There's another compelling 320 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: reason for mister Trump to get out the vote. The 321 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: last item on the GOP ballot is Proposition ten, which 322 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: simply says, quote Texas should prohibitory law. A Trump endorsement 323 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: of Prop ten could help it achieve a decisive victory 324 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and catalyze an urgently needed policy course correction in that 325 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: state and potentially across the nation. Otherwise, America is going 326 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: to continue to follow Europe's steady slide into what the 327 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: President has decried as civilization erasure. After all, destroying not 328 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: just the USA but Western civilization is the express goal 329 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: of Islam's totalitarian and demonic Sharia death cult. Obviously, we 330 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: must preclude that an overwhelming vote for Proposition ten is 331 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: the place to start. Bensharia dot com. 332 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: Well, let's get. 333 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: Peter's take on all of this. He is, of course, 334 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: the executive director of Hearts of Oak, co hosts with 335 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: his boss, Lord Malcolm Pearson, a podcast of that name 336 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: works in the House of Lords with Lord Malcolm. He 337 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: is also just an incredibly indefatigable commentator in written forms 338 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: as well as on video. We are always pleased that 339 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: among the videos he graces is this show, Peter, Welcome 340 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: back to Securing America. Always great to have you. 341 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: Sir, Thank you, Frank. 342 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to start, I guess by talking about your 343 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: side of the pond. I've alluded to this civilization erasure thing. 344 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I know that there's a by election taking place in 345 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: Britain I guests today and I wanted you to give 346 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: us a little bit of the context for the vote 347 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: there and how do you think it's likely to turn out. 348 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: Well, this is an election happening in Manchester up in 349 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: northwest of England. It's where the interesting is where the 350 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: cald To prayer happened in that the largest football stadium 351 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: in Britain, Old Trafford, up there two days ago or 352 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: maybe yesterday morning. And that fits into the demographics of 353 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: that specific constituency just southeast couple of miles southeast of Manchester, 354 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: and it's thirty percent Islamic. And we have seen the 355 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: Green Party especially who have gone full on to the 356 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: left and full on pro Islamic, and the Green Party 357 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: as probably the most progressive liberal far left parties that 358 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 3: we have really in the UK, they have grabbed this 359 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: Islamic vote. They put out videos I know and or do. 360 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: I saw video yesterday and they've hearted at that area 361 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: and that has meant that going into this election. Voting 362 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: is today on Thursday. Will know the result later this evening, 363 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: but at the moment it's a three horse risk between 364 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: the governing Labor Party which is on the left, the 365 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: Green Party which is far to the left, and Nigel 366 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: Frag's Reform Party which is on the right, and those 367 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: three are fighting it out for this. It's interesting the 368 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: Concertive Party are nowhere inside and that shows the demise 369 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: of the Concertive Party. But it is a I guess, 370 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: a different vision of Britain where Nigel wants freedom, Nigel 371 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: Fraich wants freedom on strong borders, small government, all of 372 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: that that we would hold dear. But of course the 373 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: Greens and Labor are courting that destruction of the UK, 374 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: self hatred and welcoming in Islam in every way. So 375 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: it's going to be really interesting to watch this and 376 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: can I would love Nigel Frag to win that seat 377 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: and get another member of Parliament in Westminster. My fear 378 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: is that the Green Party could also take him in 379 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: it's going to go for a recount. Upon recount, I'm 380 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: sure it's going to be razor thin, and we'll find 381 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: that out later this evening, but it is indicative of 382 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: where we are in the UK with changing demographics, the 383 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: Islamization of the UK. That obviously has a reflection in 384 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: the politics. We've got twenty four Muslim members of Parliament 385 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: and my fear is that America may want to catch 386 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: up on that destruction which we have embarked on. 387 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: We may not want to, but maybe headed that way. 388 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: But Peter, just to drill down on this particular point, 389 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: because I think it's central to not only what's happening 390 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: in the UK, but what's in prospect here, and that 391 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: is Muslim block voting sort of act as kingmakers long 392 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: before they command an actual majority, especially in parliamentary system. 393 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: They can work enormous harm, can they not by making 394 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: the decisive votes for perhaps the most extreme candidates, the 395 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: most certainly pro Sharia candidates. 396 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: Now, oh, completely, and this fits in which I've spoken 397 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: to you before, Frank, numerous times about the push forign islamophobia, 398 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: definition legal definition that is coming from that community to 399 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: appease those voters. So this seems to be the slippery 400 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: sloop that we are fast moving down to appease those 401 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: and it is the Mosques play a central role, I 402 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: think in getting those people out. And of course in 403 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: many parts of the UK you don't need voter ID, 404 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: which again allows the failings of an electoral system to 405 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: play into the hands of that Muslim block vote. So 406 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: it's going to be quite key to see how that 407 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: because you get the snapshot. General action will be probably 408 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. But you get these snapshots and where 409 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: you see are the national polling are they actually true 410 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: or not? We're going to find art in this interesting 411 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: risk in Manchester. 412 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: So, Peter, on this issue of pulling the United States, 413 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: as you know, is an election year, and here in Texas, 414 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: where I am at the moment working with you and 415 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: others trying to make sure people understand the real threat 416 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: that TRUI opposes, there is a balliding taking place as 417 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: we speak, early voting as they call it, on a 418 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Republican primary that features, among other things, a proposition prop ten. 419 00:27:53,400 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: It's called for a five word proposal, and that is simply, 420 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: as I mentioned in my commentary, Texas should prohibit sharia law. 421 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Peter, and I don't know if this has 422 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: come to your attention. Interestingly enough, the Muslim mosques in Texas, 423 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: at least some of them have been turned into polling places. 424 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if you think anything could possibly go wrong 425 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: with that arrangement based on your heart experience in the UK. 426 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: So, I was talking to a US figure yesterday about 427 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: this very issue I saw. I think Ammy Mackett put 428 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: out some info on this. My understanding looking into this 429 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: is there very very small number off mosques in the UK. 430 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: We don't have any mosques used. It's normally churches or 431 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: leisure centers or kind of town halls, schools. Generally those 432 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: are used. But there has been a push towards beginning 433 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: to use one of the two two hundred mosques we 434 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: have in the UK. You've got around three thousand US 435 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 3: I think in the US, and there seems to be 436 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: that clamor to use them. And the argument is a 437 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: logical one. It's a space, why not use it? It's free. 438 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: But of course, and I was at a anti Semitism 439 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: demo yesterday outside Parliament and I can only imagine the 440 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: fear and concern that a Jewish voter would have if 441 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: he had or she had to go to the local 442 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: mosque to vote. We already have the heightened tension of 443 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: the Jewish Communitee, so all those things come together to 444 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: make it really concerning. But I think that is further 445 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: down the road. But I think that the work that 446 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: Amy has done in saying there is a slow move, 447 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: and it is very small at the moment, but it's 448 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: where we are heading. And I can't imagine many politicians 449 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: saying it's a bad idea because it's a space to 450 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: be used. Therefore why not using you can I'd use 451 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: those instead of shutting down schools, for instance, during election time. 452 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, well they also, Peter, the argument will be that, well, 453 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: we do use churches, as you mentioned, so you know, 454 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: it's just you have to do the same. Even though 455 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the point that we've been hammering here is that going 456 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: back to Muhammed's time, mosques have always been multi use facilities. 457 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: So maybe there's some worshiping that takes place there, but 458 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: there's reason to believe that weapons storage and training and 459 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: planning for their use is also taking place again in 460 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: the tradition of the perfect man, which is to be 461 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: emulated at every turn. So, Peter, just a quick word. 462 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: The president is coming to Corpus Christy tomorrow, and as 463 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: you heard my commentary, I'm very strongly hoping and encouraging 464 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: that he addressed this issue of Proposition ten. From your 465 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: vanish point, knowing what you do about civilization erasure, how 466 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: important do you think it is that that endorsement be 467 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: forthcoming and that this proposition be adopted overwhelmingly here in Texas. 468 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: Why it's key and I don't see any reason for 469 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: the President not to endorse it. With his concerns of 470 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: care Muslim brotherhood all this, then why not make that announcement. 471 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: And I've seen the early voting which is concerning with 472 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: Democrats out voting Republicans, and it is this is a 473 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: line in the sand. This is an absolute key issue. 474 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: As our good friend Steve ban always says, if Texas 475 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: is at the forefront of Texas falls, who does America 476 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: and Texans have to vote in large numbers for this 477 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: number ten proposition? And I do hope and pray the 478 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: President from box it because there's no reason for him 479 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: not to. 480 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 481 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Well, imagine that he will be appearing in Corpus Christy 482 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: with Governor Abbott, and it would be fantastic if they 483 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: both will make it clear that this is not only 484 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: on the ballot I think most people aren't aware of that, 485 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: but also strongly endorse its adoption. Peter, we'll have to 486 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: let you go. Thank you for your time, as always, 487 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: your leadership across the pond, and what you're doing to 488 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: help us get this right on this side, based especially 489 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: on your hard experience with Sharia. We'll be right back, 490 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: folks say too. Welcome back, and delight to say welcome 491 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: to our next guest. His name is Congressman Keith self 492 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: from the great State of Texas. He is a distinguished 493 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: veteran of the United States Army, a ranger, highly decorated 494 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: as well as highly accomplished, both in uniform and since 495 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: he took it off. Now as a member of the 496 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, he is, among other things, the co founder, 497 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: with Congressman Chip Roy recently of a very important new 498 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: caucus in the House. It's called the Sharia Free America Caucus, 499 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: and we've been talking with him about the problem that 500 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: it is trying to address, which is that America is 501 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: not entirely Sharia free. In particular, his own state and 502 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: specifically his constituency, is now being subversively penetrated by Sharia supremacists, 503 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: and we've been talking about his concerns on that score 504 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: and in particular what might be done about it, and 505 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: we're delighted to have him back for a catch up 506 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: on both points. Congressman, welcome back, sir. It's great to 507 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: have you with us. 508 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Frank ours. Our caucus is now 509 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: forty four strong, of course, across twenty one states. 510 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Fabulous, Praise God, and thank you for your leadership on 511 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: that score, sir, If you could just give us a 512 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: quick assessment of the extent to which what I just 513 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: said is true, that there is a rising tide, if 514 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: you will, of Sharia advocacy and well penetration going on 515 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas at the moment. 516 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, they talk about fifty mosques having built in North 517 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 4: Texas over the last two years. We've got multiple compounds 518 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: that they are talking about building. Obviously, the most famous 519 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: is Zepic City or the metto look the age. The 520 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 4: Attorney General is investigating it, Scott Turner. At the federal level, 521 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: a Secretary Turner is investigating it. 522 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: So it is real. 523 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: We need to understand that it is moving very very 524 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: fast in North Texas. 525 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: And what is the concern about it, if you could 526 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: put it. 527 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: Succinctly, answer absolutely. The concern is this is not compatible 528 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: with our laws, with our US Constitution. This is not 529 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: just an alternative political legal system. It is a subplanting 530 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: legal political system that wants to subplant our laws, our constitution. 531 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: And frankly, they make no bones about it. You are 532 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: either part of them or you are the enemy. So 533 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: we must defend our culture, we must defend our constitution, 534 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: the individual rights that America is built on. 535 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Now, I know in the House there are a number 536 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: of pieces of legislation. I think you're among the co 537 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: sponsors of several of them, if not all of them, 538 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: aimed at doing just that. This is a sufficiently time 539 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: sensitive problem. I think it's fair to say that it's 540 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: important that states be doing something about all this too. 541 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Your own state legislature doesn't meet again until twenty twenty seven, unfortunately. 542 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: But what's on the primary ballot in the state of 543 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: Texas right now, the Republican primary ballot that could begin 544 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: addressing this problem at the state level. 545 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 4: Well, there are ten propositions that Republicans will vote on. 546 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 4: The tenth absolutely the last thing on your ballot, regardless 547 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 4: of where you are. It will need you to go 548 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 4: all the way down the ballot to ban Sharia in 549 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: the state of Texas. Now, this is not binding, it's 550 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: not a law, but it tells your elected officials in 551 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 4: the state of Texas that you want to ban Sharia, 552 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 4: that you want your US Constitution to be the law 553 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: of the land, that you want your individual freedoms, You 554 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: want your daughters to be safe. You do not want 555 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: to see the intimidation on the streets of Texas. This 556 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 4: is bally important for us to make our will known 557 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 4: by going all the way down your ballot to proposition 558 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: number ten to ban Sharia in Texas. 559 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: Say yes to Proposition ten. And by the way, it's 560 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: not just your daughters, it's your dogs too. There after 561 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: your dogs as it happens as well, Congressman, as you know, 562 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: let me ask. 563 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: You this, sir. 564 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: I understand you're going to be on the platform tomorrow 565 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: with the President of the United States and I assume 566 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas. It seems to me 567 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: this is a god given opportunity really to address the 568 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: biggest problem as far as I can tell, that we 569 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: have with the successful adoption of Proposition ten. And that 570 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: is that not every Republican, or for that matter, other 571 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: Texans who all can vote in this primary if they're 572 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: legal voters, no that Prop ten is on the ballot. 573 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: But when they do, generally, I think they're very supportive, 574 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: but not all of them are going to be voting. 575 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: So would it be important, in your estimation serve for 576 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: the President and Governor Abbott to both use this moment, 577 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: this platform that they have right before the election to 578 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: endorse Proposition ten and urge people when they go to 579 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: vote that they make yes a priority at the bottom 580 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: of the ballot. 581 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 4: Well, I will certainly tire, Frank, but there's no guarantee 582 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 4: that I will be on any dieis tomorrow. I really 583 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: don't know the format of the rally, but I hope 584 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 4: to have the opportunity to talk to both the Governor 585 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 4: and the President about this, to encourage them to let 586 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: people know that it's important for the state of Texas 587 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 4: that everyone go down to the bottom of your ballot 588 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 4: and say yes to Prop ten. So I will make 589 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 4: every attempt to but it shows like yours, Frank, are 590 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 4: vitally important to making sure people absolutely know that proped 591 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: in and the fact that they've got to go all 592 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: the way down the ballot, because that's one of the 593 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 4: more difficult things. Some ballots are extremely long. I encourage 594 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 4: you go to the bottom of the ballot. It's the 595 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: last thing. 596 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: Well, as it happens, I have a sample ballot right 597 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: here in, Congressman, and I don't know if I can 598 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: do justice to this, but i'd say that's about twenty 599 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: four inches long, double sided utheless and you, as you say, 600 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: you have to go all the way through it, and 601 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: you know a simple yes is all that's required. But 602 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: you've got to be paying attention, and most especially you've 603 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: got to be at the polls. If you didn't engage 604 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: in early voting, and you've already cast this ballot, I 605 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: pray that you will make a point of doing as 606 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: Congressman Keith self has just urged. Go to the polls, 607 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: get your Republican ballot, cast it for the candidates you 608 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: see fit, but make a point of casting it for proposition, 609 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: and all the way at the bottom. Congressman, thank you 610 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: for your leadership on all of these matters. You are 611 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: a good friend as well as a very valued representative 612 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: of your district. And I know it's ground zero in 613 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. Epic City, as I recall, is 614 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: in your constituency, and desperately need to make sure that 615 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: it's not a no go zone for jihad. God bless you, 616 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: my friend. Come back to us with updates on all 617 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: of this if you would very soon. Stay tuned, folks 618 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: will be right back with more. We're back, and I 619 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: am thrilled to be able to say a woman who 620 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: I have been asking to be on this show for 621 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: well months and months, has found some time for us 622 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: at a very critical moment for her, yes, but also 623 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: for her state that would be Texas, and I believe 624 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: for the United States of America as well. And she 625 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: is in the forefront of the battle because Julie Pickrin 626 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: is the member of the State Board of Education of 627 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: Texas who has been the spearcatcher for a lot of 628 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: people who don't like what she's been doing on the 629 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: school board, which is, among other things, to have helped 630 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: reform dramatically the social studies curriculum of K through twelve 631 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: at public education in the state. And I wanted to 632 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: get her on to talk about both who opposes a 633 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: pro American, pro freedom well American loving curriculum as opposed 634 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: to one that isn't any of those things. And Julie 635 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: pickerin I could not be more grateful to you for 636 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing and the chance to talk with you 637 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about it. Welcome to Securing America. 638 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: Thank you, Frank, and what an honor it is to 639 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 5: be with you. I think you know told you this 640 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 5: before in private. Now I'll be more than happy to 641 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 5: say it publicly. You are one of America's great heroes 642 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 5: and your service to our country has just been unmatched 643 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 5: by most. And thank you so much for your dedication 644 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 5: to the United States of America and for your service 645 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 5: to our country. What an honor to be here. 646 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: Means the world to me. Let me just disclose we 647 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: are friends as well as partners in this cause, and 648 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of you too. Drill me. Let me 649 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: start by just asking you to give us a level 650 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: setting on what you have done that seems to have 651 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: set off the Council on American Islamic Relations, among others. 652 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: That would, of course be a designated terrorist organization and 653 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: multi national criminal one to boot. According to your Governor Greg. 654 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 5: Yes, so, Governor Abbot in the third quarter last year, 655 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 5: designated care the Council on Arab found American Islamic Relations 656 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 5: as a terrorist organization, and then a couple of months later, 657 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 5: Governor DeSantis of Florida also designated them as a foreign 658 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 5: terist organization. So for tues, States for sure have recognized 659 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 5: that their terrorist connection, their terrorist connection to the Muslim Brotherhood, 660 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 5: even the FBI. So at the federal level, the FBI 661 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 5: calls them the face of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. 662 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 5: So there's no doubt in leaders minds in the United 663 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 5: States of America that this is a terrorist organization and 664 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 5: has terrorists intents in America. So Governor Abbot also reported 665 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 5: them or referred them to the Joint Terrorism Task Force. 666 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 5: And he also requested that the Texas DPS Department of 667 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 5: Public Safety, which is our Texas Rangers or the elite 668 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 5: investigating force of our Texas DPS, so directed our Texas 669 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 5: Rangers and DPS to start investigating as a criminal organization. 670 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: And he also directed the Texas Attorney General to look 671 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 5: into their business practices and their land ownership. So as 672 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 5: we say in Texas, the eyes of Texas are upon them. Okay, 673 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 5: so we're taking this very seriously, this threat to our state. 674 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: Julie I did as wanted to point out that one 675 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: of the other things that Governor Rabbit did, for which 676 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: I give him great credit, is he said the buzz 677 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: and Brotherhood and Council and American Islamic Relations may not 678 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: own real property in the State of Texas. That would 679 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: seem to have some very important, hopefully near term effects 680 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: on the infrastructure that these kinds of terrorist organizations have 681 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: been building in your state. 682 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 5: Would it I yes, sir. We have laws, we have 683 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 5: statute in the State of Texas that prevent terrorist organizations 684 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 5: from owning land and owning real property in our states. 685 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to the enforcement of these laws. Because, 686 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 5: as you know, Care leadership of CARE has come several 687 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 5: times now to the Texas State Board of Education and 688 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 5: even held a press conference at the Texas State Board 689 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 5: of Education on their demands, on their terrorist demands of 690 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 5: what they want taught in Texas public schools. And so 691 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 5: this has been going on for several months. This didn't 692 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 5: just this didn't just start yesterday whenever they came to 693 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 5: make their demands at the Texas State Board of Education 694 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 5: meeting in Austin. This has been going on for several 695 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 5: months now. 696 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: Well, this this needs to be Yeah, this needs definitely 697 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: to be enforced, this particular set of walls, and I 698 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: hope you know the rest of the designation as well. 699 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: Tell me what in our audience, what you are now 700 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: being as sailed with by the Council on American Islamic 701 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: Relations for having helped reform in this important way the curriculum. 702 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 5: Well, so you know, in Texas we've been having the 703 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 5: social studies debate since twenty twenty one, and in twenty 704 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 5: twenty two the rewrite of our social studies standards kindergarten 705 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 5: through twelfth grade, which by the way, affects the entire country, 706 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 5: not just Texas, because Texas now has the most school 707 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 5: age children of any state in America. We're coming up 708 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 5: to six million children in public education. And also we 709 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 5: have the largest solvent I'm gonna say that's solvent fund 710 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 5: to pay for the textbooks in the country. So, you know, 711 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 5: California likes to say they have the most, but California 712 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 5: is about two hundred and seventy billion dollars in debt 713 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 5: and Texas is we're in the positive. We're not even 714 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 5: near in debt. We are actually the governor's economic policies 715 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 5: in the State of Texas have created the finest economy 716 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 5: in the history probably of the world, definitely of our country. 717 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 5: And so you know, we have been twenty eight to 718 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 5: thirty billion dollars in the plus every budgetary cycle. So 719 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 5: in Texas we have about a sixty billion dollar textbook 720 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 5: fund that is fully solvent. So the publishers they write 721 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 5: for Texas. Whenever they're writing, will you take all the 722 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 5: national publishers around the country, all the all the big publishers, 723 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 5: they write specifically for the State of Texas because we 724 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 5: now are coming up on the most children, and we 725 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: have the money to pay our contracts. And so so 726 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 5: the text the standards that yes, yes, yes, So the 727 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 5: standards that we set for social studies is what will 728 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 5: dictate the will dictate the textbooks that are printed for 729 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 5: social studies kindergarten through twelfth grade throughout the whole nation. 730 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 5: It's these decisions aren't just for Texas. These decisions are 731 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 5: for the United States of America. And CARE has come 732 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: to our meeting several times, held a press conference where 733 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 5: they want to completely rewrite US history and Texas history 734 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 5: to make Islam and make and make radical Islam terrorists. 735 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 5: They want to paint the Barbary Wars right, what happened 736 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 5: off the Barbary coast in northern Africa. They want to 737 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 5: paint that in a positive light and the positive effects 738 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 5: that it did have. And think maybe the only thing 739 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 5: that we can agree on is the positive effect of 740 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 5: the Barbary Wars is that was the birth of the 741 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 5: United States Marine Corps. I can agree that that's a positive. 742 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 5: That's not what they want to teach. 743 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: Julie. 744 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We are hard 745 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: out of time, but I did want to get your 746 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: take on Prop ten before we let you go. 747 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, vote for all the propositions on the Republican ballot, 748 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 5: especially Prop ten. No Sharia law in Texas. Sharia law 749 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 5: is the enemy of Western civilization and the enemy of 750 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 5: the American dreams. So protect Texas and protect Texas for 751 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 5: our children and grandchildren. And thank you, Frank. 752 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: Amen, God bless you, ma'n come back to us with 753 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: updates on all of this very soon, if you will. 754 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: Bless you raised the lead Pickering School Board of Education 755 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: candidate as well as member God bless We'll be right back, folks, 756 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: No we won't. We have to say goodbye, thank you 757 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: for joining us, come back next time. Until then, go 758 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: forth and multiply.