WEBVTT - Complete 2024 NFL Draft Recap and UDFA Breakdowns | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft podcast, presented by Seekik,

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<v Speaker 1>the official primary ticketing partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Logan Paulson here with Jess the Guy, Jason and Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>We are doing a draft recap coupled with some free

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<v Speaker 1>agency stuff, right, is that we're doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the undrafted free agents, the rookies that weren't drafted

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<v Speaker 2>but came in much like your path.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right exactly. Yeah, So really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some of those guys because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a special place in my heart for those types

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<v Speaker 1>of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I do know you made a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pretty darn good career even though you weren't drafted, and

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<v Speaker 2>so did like London Fletcher, like, there are ballplayers that

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<v Speaker 2>come out of the UDFA, So it's worth talking about

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<v Speaker 2>some of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, So first off, we got an announcement though

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about so obviously this show is

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<v Speaker 1>called Ticket of the Draft. Yeah, and the Draft is over,

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<v Speaker 1>but we feel like we can still do shows kind

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<v Speaker 1>of recapping how the rookie, our rookie draft class is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>rookie class as a whole is doing how our evaluations

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<v Speaker 1>are holding up. But we feel like we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do that every single week, so we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>once a month basically, right, Is that kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>gist of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Overall, Like the response from our fans over this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>has been tremendous, So we don't want to just leave

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<v Speaker 2>you guys right where our last episode was instant reactions

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<v Speaker 2>after the second and third round, we thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>the end, so it was a little sad, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we looked at the numbers and we're like, man, we

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<v Speaker 2>can do something here, like you were saying. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about the rest of the draft,

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<v Speaker 2>the udfas and maybe I'm going to say once a

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<v Speaker 2>month ish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give or take.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we're going to look in on how the

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<v Speaker 2>rookies were doing here. The draft is over, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's worth keeping up with them. Let's see how

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<v Speaker 2>they panned out, like all this hype about them, all

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<v Speaker 2>these like all the analysis we did, all the hours

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<v Speaker 2>we spend in film, like, let's see how it pans out. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk you through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think like one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate, I always I find very frustrating about draft

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<v Speaker 1>analysis in general is they give you your grade, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the day after the draft, but then what does that

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<v Speaker 1>look like a month, two months, six months from now

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<v Speaker 1>when they're playing football games. We can maybe revisit some

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<v Speaker 1>of these picks obviously internally, but some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>we liked maybe that are on different teams to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk through, you know, maybe why they hit, why

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't hit, and kind of take you on our

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<v Speaker 1>journey as we refine our scouting process.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of that'll be that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it doesn't just end with the draft as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like scouting goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm going to do this again next year,

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<v Speaker 2>which I would like to do as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>scouting more prospects and watching film, I want to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from this. So how do I learn? Well, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to see what the result is, right, So I need

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<v Speaker 2>to like take a microscope to migrating process my scouting process,

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<v Speaker 2>or how did it pan out? Where did I get

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong? How can I refine so that if ticket

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<v Speaker 2>to the draft twenty twenty or five homes up, we're

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<v Speaker 2>a little more I don't want to say accurate, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're a little more.

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<v Speaker 3>Polished, Yeah, a little bit more refined up. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the meantime, let's review our draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, like we're gonna go quickly through kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>drafted guys because we did a you know what we do,

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<v Speaker 1>We did a first day recap, second day recap, so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys we've already talked about, but

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of as refreshers. Obviously, Jade and Daniels were

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<v Speaker 1>both really stoked on that. Yeah, that's probably the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the analysis. There'shn Newton, he falls to the Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>There, good football player. We're both excited about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that I'm probably most excited about of these top

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<v Speaker 1>three is Mike Sandristil. I just like loved his film,

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<v Speaker 1>Love the kind of competitor, love the leadership, love the

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<v Speaker 1>ball skills, and I just think about him in this

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<v Speaker 1>Commander's defense, you know, kind of looking at what they

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<v Speaker 1>did in Dallas, and I just get really stoked for

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<v Speaker 1>what he means. And also I think he's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what does he mean for Kwan Martin, What

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<v Speaker 1>does he mean for Benjamin Saint Jus. He's just this

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<v Speaker 1>really dynamic piece that plays Nickel and we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good football player in Nickel before in Kwan. Do like

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<v Speaker 1>what role does does Quand now take or does Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and Wills will take a different role? So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really compelling decision there, honestly, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the direction that the defense is going with

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<v Speaker 1>this selection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a baller, and I want to see how

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<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Forbes responds all this too, Not that it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder how it's gonna help his game because

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<v Speaker 2>he had a little bit of a rough rookie season,

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<v Speaker 2>but the talent is there. Yeah, right, he's a good

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<v Speaker 2>player and I'm expecting a bounce back season for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and like just helping secure the secondary, make the secondary

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<v Speaker 2>another ballhawk is out there, right, So like, how does

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<v Speaker 2>that help Forbes his game? How does that help develop

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<v Speaker 2>him and grow him? And like, I think it can

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<v Speaker 2>only be up right, Like I think this group is

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<v Speaker 2>getting better. So I'm just I'm excited the impact like

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<v Speaker 2>you said with Benzaman Saint Juice with Kwan, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>mostly with Forbes. I'd love to see him getting ballack

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<v Speaker 2>ballhawk role as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think again, like The thing I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>excited about is this is a little bit off topic,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit out of the scope of this show specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>is just how the coaching is going to affect that group.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone talking about the quarterback, but to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to see how the coaching additions of

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<v Speaker 1>players like Mike Sanders still impact this defense. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really think that if that group can come together, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of talented pieces. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, coaching wasn't maybe we were supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully this gets them corrected, obviously. And then the next

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<v Speaker 1>pick is Bensonatt from Kansas State, the tight end, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm again really excited to see how he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be used, Like is he the fullback?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he the move guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Cliff Kingsbury use him to kind of create matchups

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense. I think it's going to be really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you maximize his skill set because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a true inline guy, but he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>true off the ball guy. He's got this tremendous athletic profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you look at the force played data in

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<v Speaker 1>his vertical jumps didn't really show up in the forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he ran a fast forty as a four

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<v Speaker 1>to six something, but I think the explosive measurements in

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<v Speaker 1>those jumps kind of make me think there's more in

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<v Speaker 1>the tank there from an athletic perspective. Tracks the ball well,

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<v Speaker 1>mismatch weapon, nice physicality, so really curious to see what

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be. And then Brandon Coleman, the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tack from TCU, I think is maybe to me, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting pick of the entire draft for the Commanders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would say because like you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>all these names who were kind of bantering about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got you know, you're Patrick Paul's your Kings, Usumatis,

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<v Speaker 1>You're Karen Amadigi from Yale, You're Roger like those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of four guys. And I had a conversation with Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Sickoman to day actually, and one of the things he

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<v Speaker 1>said is that he actually had Brandon Coleman as a tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>like the third guy in that group, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to saying, you know, I had him as a guard.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when you look at the arm length,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the athletic profile, you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball background. You look at the kind of the the

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<v Speaker 1>novelty he's been exposed to with football. He didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>high school football, you know, he played a juco transfer

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<v Speaker 1>to TCU, so he's really new to the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>you think if you look at the athlete, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the length, you say, man, maybe he could be something

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<v Speaker 1>pretty special here at offensive tackle. I think he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to develop a little bit. But you know, like we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen guys develop really quickly third round picks become impact

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<v Speaker 1>players along the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's seventieth percentile in the tackle position in length. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when his measurements came in. And I think the PFF

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<v Speaker 2>stats that have come out that we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>with him all the time is this one. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>one three hundred and seven pass blocking snaps in his

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<v Speaker 2>college career, only fifty four QB pretchers and only three

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<v Speaker 2>sacks allowed when a national championship team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we've talked about this a lot too. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, I think there's some novelty, like some

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's new to playing football, but I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that sticks out is he does have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>decent feel for like his relationship to the rusher. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's now, it's not perfect all the time, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think you see a really nice floor. And then because

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<v Speaker 1>that floor is so high, and because of those athletic

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<v Speaker 1>measurs athletic measurables are so are also so high. You say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this guy can become like kind of a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>special left tackle. But again, there's some growth there, some

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<v Speaker 1>development that needs to happened. But really really curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see how that happens, because I know people has been

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<v Speaker 1>calling for left tackle, left tackle, left tackle again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a good reason why Cornelius Lucas is here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think Cornelia Szucas can hold down the fort

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Brandon Coleman does need to develop, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think also Brandon Coleman's.

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<v Speaker 3>Flexibility to guard is also valuable here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say Cornelias Lucas comes out and plays excellent in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, and then this allows you to get your

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<v Speaker 1>best five guys on the field, which would be which

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty cool, especially if corn can get that done.

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<v Speaker 1>Next guy, Luke McCaffrey, a guy that I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>both pretty high on.

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<v Speaker 3>Also new to the receiver position. Some novelty there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny like Mike Sanders still Brandon Coleman and Luke

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey all kind of new, not the football but to

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<v Speaker 1>the position that they're playing. Mike Sanders still changed from receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke McCaffrey moved a receiver from quarterback. Kind of that tough,

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<v Speaker 1>big slot guy, tremendous and contested catch situations. I think

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<v Speaker 1>short area quickness tested better than shows up on film.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as he gets more into the position,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll just grow and become more nuanced. And

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I think think again has a great

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<v Speaker 1>floor because of the pedigree, the background, obviously his brother

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<v Speaker 1>and his father. His mother was a college softball player,

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather was an Olympic track athlete. Like, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a pedigree of professionalism with him that I think sets

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. And I think when you look at his

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<v Speaker 1>improvement since he made the transition a wide receiver, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you were telling me this. He had two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty two and then fourteen or sixteen touchdowns in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. So obviously a guy that's really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on this exponential learning curve, much like Jane Daniels too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you just see guys on this kind of nice linear trajectory.

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<v Speaker 1>So a guy that I think is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact, kind of fill that big slot role, willing

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<v Speaker 1>to do the dirty work, but also has some nice

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<v Speaker 1>athletic traits in addition to good size that makes you

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<v Speaker 1>excited about the direction that position is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was. He had top six finishes in seven

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<v Speaker 2>per play statistical categories. I know that's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>word salid, but basically what that means is he was solid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was solid across the board. In twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>he had perfect averages in catchable pass catch rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>According to PF it means that if the ball is

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<v Speaker 2>close and he should catch it, he caught it. And

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<v Speaker 2>he had zero drop passes in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the thing about him that's really cool

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<v Speaker 1>is that that catch rate. Sometimes it doesn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>with guys with him, it shows up like he's taking

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<v Speaker 1>big hits, he's being physical over the middle of field.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, a guy that five floor but really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about where his ceiling could be, especially with a staff

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<v Speaker 1>that's focused on developing talent like his. So now so

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<v Speaker 1>we've all we've talked about those guys already, so we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of breeze through them. If you want more detailed analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you go check out the last two podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>where we kind of recap Day one and Day two.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we're into guys we haven't talked about. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are the fifth and seventh round selections for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the UDFA the rookie udfas.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna start with it just neither drafted guys first,

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<v Speaker 3>drafted guys first.

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<v Speaker 1>We're new three, so obviously that's Shortan m, Dominique Campton,

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<v Speaker 1>and Javonte Jean Baptiste from Notre Dame. So Jordan McGee,

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker from Temple to me is I'm very excited about him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I'm very excited about him, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just saying that because he's now a commander, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited about him before. He's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>very instinctive. He's fast the football. He ran a four

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<v Speaker 1>to five two at the combine. He's got thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>inch arms, he's sixty three, he's two twenty five, so

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<v Speaker 1>kind of built like a safety, runs downhill. Physical to

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<v Speaker 1>the football reminds me of like Malcolm Smith He played

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker at USC for a while, played for Cleveland Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>played for San Francisco. A little undersize, but tremendously instinctive

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<v Speaker 1>to the football, understands his reads really well, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the most important part of his game is he has

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<v Speaker 1>a good sense for reading the quarterback and identifying his

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<v Speaker 1>coverage responsibilities, which is something that like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Jeremiah Trotter junior, we talked about some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other linebacker prospects that Eichenberg from Ohio State. I

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<v Speaker 1>never saw that from them, you know, and to see

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, like the way the position is transitioning

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<v Speaker 1>is you need to have guys that are excellent coverage

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<v Speaker 1>players and really decisive to run fits. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he does both of those things really really well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think his floor right now, he's probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a rotational special teams type of guy to start,

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<v Speaker 1>But the ceiling because of those traits reminds me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like and they're not the same player. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say this right now, They're not the same player,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of fitting kind of archetypal molds, like

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Warner is kind of what I look at like

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<v Speaker 1>he played star kind of safety, highbred linebacker in college.

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<v Speaker 1>So the coverage ability translates, the run and hit ability translates,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a lot of those similarities in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of a guy that can cover and a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>can be sideline a sideline but also isn't afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>get down.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, not a perfect prospect gets chewed up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit by bigger offensive linemen. You see him get a

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<v Speaker 1>race a little bit, but when he sees it and

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<v Speaker 1>he can run, he's quick, he's decisive, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a guy that I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>project to something more as you move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question about him. Sure, when

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<v Speaker 2>you say undersized linebacker, the first thing that comes to

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<v Speaker 2>mind as a Washington fan is, well, London Fletcher was undersized.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much does being undersized at the linebacker position

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<v Speaker 2>actually matter when you have those instinctual tendencies like what

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about. And I'm not saying he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be London Fletched, Oh right, but London Fletcher went undrafted.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably because of his size, right, So like,

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<v Speaker 2>what at some point with linebacker, where do you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's definitely becoming, in my opinion, around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less important. It'd be like prototypical size.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, like because like if you look

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<v Speaker 1>around the league, everyone's throwing the football. You're in sub

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<v Speaker 1>packages all the time, sub meaning you're in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers, a tight end in the back, more offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're throwing the football more. You're in nickel

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<v Speaker 1>sixty percent of the time. Nickel offenses don't run the

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<v Speaker 1>football as much. So it really becomes down to like

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<v Speaker 1>your coverage ability, and so I don't think it's as important,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're kind of playing like a one gap defense,

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<v Speaker 1>which Dan has always played. That's always been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of Dan's philosophy, is a one gap defense. You have

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<v Speaker 1>one gap, get there. It limits your ability to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to two gap and read and fight with

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. So it's not as important. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing with him is his weight is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit you know down it's two twenty five to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two something like that, and it just makes it

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<v Speaker 1>harder when you're dealing with like bigger offensive linemen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just like fighting them off, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch NFL games and you see these guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are kind of like these. I think Dallas is

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<v Speaker 1>a great example. You know, they kind of I forget

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<v Speaker 1>where the kid was from, but he was basically a

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<v Speaker 1>big safety that they moved to linebacker. Great ball instincts,

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<v Speaker 1>could run to the football and covered up, but when

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<v Speaker 1>he had to defeat blocks, that that skill set wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there for him. Now, I think he can develop that

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<v Speaker 1>skill set. I'm talking about the kid from Dallas now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think McGee is a little bit better in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. But that's something that I definitely think he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to work on about London Fletcher. London Fletcher was

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<v Speaker 1>a was a true unicorn in that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's five ten, five eleven whatever he is, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty five to forty.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a fire hydrot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he runs a four to four like he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's unique, and he had a very and he

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<v Speaker 1>understood what he did well and he Underson had to

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<v Speaker 1>defeat blocks, and again, I think McGee shows a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that, but he's going to have to get

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<v Speaker 1>better at it. But I think the thing that gets

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<v Speaker 1>you excited is the coverage ability.

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<v Speaker 2>McGhee had to career a career best PFF grade of

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven point two in twenty twenty three, which means

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting better as he goes along, and that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be a theme of some of these guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are drafted or brought in here as rookies. Another one

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<v Speaker 2>is Dominique Campton, the safety from Washington. He had career

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<v Speaker 2>highs in ball production in twenty twenty three. He had

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<v Speaker 2>seven pass breakups, two interceptions. So guys that are getting

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<v Speaker 2>better throughout college and they hope that that continues here.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about Dominique Campton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he led the team into last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Huskies, and he's a guy that is I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's six to two, he's two fifteen. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three and a quarter thirty three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>inch arms, so.

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<v Speaker 3>A big guy. He's a big player.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks like a spider out there running

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<v Speaker 1>around in the secondary. Plays with a physical mentality, plays

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<v Speaker 1>with great energy. He played corner when he first came

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<v Speaker 1>into UW. He's been there for six years. She's been

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<v Speaker 1>there for a long time. He's a COVID baby, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has some nice coverage ability, but gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit handsy at times. But I man, I after

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<v Speaker 1>watching his film again, I rewatched some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that was online last night and the night before. He's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, he's like a dark horse to make the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just got a very unique skill set. He

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of play that safety linebacker Buffalo Nickel, highbred

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<v Speaker 1>type role, which is kind of sweeping the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think in an interview Adam Peters called it

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<v Speaker 2>the star position. Yeah, right, you're gonna call it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that star spot for me again, he's the energy,

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<v Speaker 1>the acumen, the experience that he's got. I think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably kind of fit in ats the special teams guy

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<v Speaker 1>to start, But I don't know, Like when I watch

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<v Speaker 1>this film, I like, man, this guy the projection for

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<v Speaker 1>him because there's times when you watch him and you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, man, he's a little out of position.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing post safety, he's playing a quarter safety. But

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<v Speaker 1>when he's down near the line of scrimmage, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you see a really dynamic playmaker. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and this staff understands like what guys do well

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's been Dan's m since I knew him

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, Like, what do you do? Well, let's have

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<v Speaker 1>you do that. And I think we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>have him play in the post. We're gonna have him

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<v Speaker 1>played near the line of scrimmage where he can be

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive and downhill and give him clear rules because I

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<v Speaker 1>do think he can cover. I think he can match

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<v Speaker 1>up with tight ends. Arm link is definitely there. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy to me, like, if you're a fan

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<v Speaker 1>at home, circle that name to kind of watch and

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on in training camp because I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a really easy path for his physicality and for

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<v Speaker 1>his skill set. Again, a really nice athlete run a

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<v Speaker 1>four or five at the combine. He had like a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine in vertical jump, so twitched up, explosive, long, physical,

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys tend to kind of find a role quicker

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<v Speaker 1>than other guys in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the next guy the seventh round Javante Jean Baptistete,

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive end from Notre Dame by way of Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so when you're getting into the seventh round,

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<v Speaker 2>right and you're taking guys around here, I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for some things like this. He was in the

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<v Speaker 2>ninetieth percentile. In broad jump, he had a ten foot

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<v Speaker 2>five broad jump. That's pretty darn good explosive. Reportedly, he

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<v Speaker 2>hit twenty miles per hour on the GPS in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good year pretty fast. And he has an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five point four PFF run defense grave So for an

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<v Speaker 2>end who does get pressures, he had thirty eight pressures

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<v Speaker 2>last season. He is a good run stopper for an end,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I guess those are the traits that you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for in like the seventh round.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I think he had a top five, top five

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<v Speaker 1>or top seven forty yard dash. The combined round a

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<v Speaker 1>four to sixty six. So he's six ' five, he's

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty five. So not like the biggest guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. He should He should be based on his

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<v Speaker 1>athletic measurables, like more productive than he is. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a knock on him, like, but like when

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<v Speaker 1>you when he walks into a building, you're like, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy should be an amazing pass rusher. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch him, he'll show you something you're like, oh, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>like that, look at this dude run, look at this move,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he'll go through about a ten play sequence

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<v Speaker 1>where he's just kind of out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays hard, but he just looks a little unsure

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<v Speaker 1>certain about what his plan is on a down to

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<v Speaker 1>down basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So do coaches look at that and go weaken?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like in terms of guys that I again like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like a as Dan guys. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the least three guys to me are like Dan guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan McGee, Dominic Campton, John Baptist, Because Jean Baptiste, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get him with a good D line coach and

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<v Speaker 1>you say, hey, man, do like these four things really well?

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<v Speaker 1>As a pass rusher, he could become a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>makes the roster and his productive. You know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick. I'm not saying he's going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the world here, but I think he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>could be very impactful in that regard. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>the selection because I always get mad when in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round you take a guy that has no opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to ever play football for your team. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>his ceiling is a special teams guy, or his ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>is the third linebacker on goal line it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, but like, let's take someone that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good football player, like kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>a base you mentioned the run defense grade. That's always

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<v Speaker 1>a great metric for like just solid production at the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL level, Like if you can stop the run, you

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<v Speaker 1>can play footba.

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<v Speaker 3>At the NFL level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but maybe he could be something more with that

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<v Speaker 1>athletic frame, that kind of wiry length and the speed

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<v Speaker 1>that he's shown.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, so that's the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the draft, all right, so real quickly, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Recap the draft with this with this kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>picture for it. All right, team needs before the draft, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, quarterback, defensive end, offensive tackle, defensive backs, linebacker,

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver. Guess what, every single one of those were filled.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had something happen that it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>happened here in a while. And that's we drafted the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote best player available. So what a great job

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<v Speaker 2>of getting best player available while filling team needs simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>And something I noticed when I was putting together this list,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, guys like Johnny Newton, Ben Sinat, Brandon Coleman,

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Luke McCaffrey, these guys are going Jordan McGee. These guys

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<v Speaker 2>are going to play behind some free agents and some

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<v Speaker 2>veterans that were already here that are good, solid pros.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so you're filling a team need and you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting them in a position where they don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be stars right away, outside of maybe Jaden Daniels, but

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 2>they can learn, they can grow, they can figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what it means to be a pro here and get

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<v Speaker 2>coached up. And then like, you got talent right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Behind these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>True, almost for the entire draft class, right, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at obviously everybody outside of Jayden and Daniels,

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<v Speaker 1>but Gerson, you know, has Alan and Payne, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Mike Sanders. Still, we talked about the defensive back group,

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<v Speaker 1>Benson and he's got zach Ertz, Brandon Coleman.

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<v Speaker 3>I think bringing in Corney's.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas bringing him back, that's a big deal, right, Luke McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the receiver room, Jordan McGee, with the linebackers, Warner

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't or not Warner Wagner and yeah, and then Dominie Campton,

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<v Speaker 1>who is like, to me, like a cookie cutter mold

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeremy Chin, Like Jeremy Chin almost won Defensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year, like talk about a great model for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then John Baptiste is the seventh round pick, will

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mix into that defensive line room. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a really smart philosophy to get leaders at

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<v Speaker 1>these positions. And you know, a lot of these older

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<v Speaker 1>veterans are on one year contracts, so you know, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Jeremy Chin, well, you know, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a great career here and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to sign him to an extension hopefully, but if it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out, hypothetically, you've got a guy in Dominie

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<v Speaker 1>Campton who has sat for a year as a special

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<v Speaker 1>teams guy with tremendous athletic upside that has learned in

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<v Speaker 1>the defense and could potentially kind of make an impact.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a really good philosophy. Great job

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<v Speaker 1>by Adam Peters. And again, the other thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to point out is they're all captains, they're all leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have high floors, they're all self starters, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you're drafting players, that's one thing that I think

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<v Speaker 1>can't be can't be overvalued, is like, do are they

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<v Speaker 1>motivated to get better, and we talked about the improvement

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>that they've all shown over the course of their career.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of the poster chitle that being Jane Daniels, but

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<v Speaker 1>really excited for this draft class.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that it's the vision is clear.

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<v Speaker 1>They've identified pieces, they brought in talent to peeps pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait to see how they fit in here with the commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the Logan Paulsons of the world and

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<v Speaker 2>the London Pitchers, just the hidden gems in there, the

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted free agents. We watched some of these guys in

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<v Speaker 2>film leaning up. Yeah, so yeah, let's we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>down the list. I'm going to give like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of stats about them, just so you understand it yield

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about them. We don't have to spend

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<v Speaker 2>too much time on everybody here. We will, But who's

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<v Speaker 2>someone that stands out right away that you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a great grab surprise you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get drafted. Glad he's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a couple guys, but I'm gonna start with

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<v Speaker 1>two guys to start, and so the first guy is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to say his name shingozier A Nusium.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it from Colorado State. At the corner he's

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<v Speaker 1>six ' to one. He ran a four three nine

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<v Speaker 1>at his protae is that it's on there four three

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<v Speaker 1>nine yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was eight amongst the corners at the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and very explosive, very long arms. Has really solid

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<v Speaker 1>movement skills. Just wonder about his consistent compete, you know

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like he's playing hard, but like there's

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<v Speaker 1>times where it's like, hey, go get that tackle, go

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<v Speaker 1>fit that run, like you know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a coverage guy, like talk about an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly high ceiling, like it's all there for you. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the movement skills, the ball skills. I when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it when I started watching film with him, because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he wasn't on my list before I started, But

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<v Speaker 1>when I started watching film, I was like, Oh, this

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>guy can play some ball. Yeah, and so he probably

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<v Speaker 1>starts as a again, she probably starts as a special

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<v Speaker 1>teams guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever. But in terms of remember we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked about it with Jean Baptista, guy that could project

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<v Speaker 1>something more like the body is there, Yeah, the athleticism

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<v Speaker 1>is there. The instincts are there, it's just about making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's all going in the right direction all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, six foot one, two hundred pounds, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent body fat, thirty seven point five introvertical, ten

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<v Speaker 2>foot two broad jump. He's explosive, A four three nine

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<v Speaker 2>forty Like you said, I mean that's Fred Smoot wishes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he wishes.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was part of the All Mountain West first

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<v Speaker 2>team for PFF grades. Right, So he's a baller, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a player. And speaking of guys who are ballers and players,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to the next guy on this list

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<v Speaker 2>is Sam Hart.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say my one other guy, My one

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<v Speaker 3>other guy? I want to Yeah, guy, So two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He's s that's one obviously, and then the next guy

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<v Speaker 1>for me is Noreel Pollard from Virginia Tech. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch him, like if you come to practice during

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, he is going to win every single pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush one on one. Yeah, Like, there's no doubt in

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<v Speaker 1>my defensive tackle. Defensive tackle from Virginia Tech. He's undersized,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like I think I saw something that said he

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<v Speaker 1>was six foot six foot like two to eighty. So

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like outlier size. He ran a four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven nine at his pro DA, very explosive. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty five inch vertical jump, but has great feel

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>for like turning pads quick, quick, lightning, quick, get off.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you when you think about the Dallas defense of

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, like this is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of guy that fits perfectly in there. And he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be a situational pass rusher. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy that can win pass rush reps like this, yeah, consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like keep him in the program. So he might

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<v Speaker 1>just be a practice squad guy, but he's someone that

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<v Speaker 1>if you come to practice, you watch one on one

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be like, who the heck is that guy?

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Because he's gonna win all of them? You know what

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like, that's just the type of guy he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So to two names that kind of just jump out

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<v Speaker 1>to me as like, hey, maybe maybe can make some waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to go in what you're saying there stats to

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<v Speaker 2>back it up right, all right? So he was he

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<v Speaker 2>had an eighty eight pass rush grade that's accordy and

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<v Speaker 2>pff that's third Yeah, and better than Johnny Newton.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got some he's got, Like we talked about juice. Yeah,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he's got the juice.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a thirty total pressures. That's a sixteen point

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<v Speaker 2>five percent win rate, fourth best in his class. True

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 2>in true pass sets.

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<v Speaker 3>Of everybody, of everybody, Oh my god, of.

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<v Speaker 2>True pass sets. And that means that this is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a pass right. It's not a RPO. It's not play

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>action quarterbacks definitely throwing this ball a ninety point four

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 2>grade and with twenty pressures, that's tied with Byron Murphy.

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<v Speaker 2>The first defensive tackle it went off the board.

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<v Speaker 3>So get this. I watched the Virginia game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I had to like scrub it because he's

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>not on every play because but there was a sequence

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>where it was like ten consecutive pass plays and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh that was a pressure. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy I definitively beat the guard. And I don't

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>know who that guard is. He might just be a guy,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, other occupation type guy. But when you can

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<v Speaker 1>rush the passer, yeah, let's see if it works.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's a size that's what That's what had him

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>not get drafted. But guess what, he's a team captain. Yeah, right,

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>fitting that molding it, and I think it's what you're

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>talking to. It feels like this is like, well, he's

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>an undersized guy, but he wins like this, So maybe

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that attitude.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Yea, Yeah, find a role for him.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at the philosophy of Dan in Seattle,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas, in Atlanta, he understands probably better than I mean,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>at least better than any of the defense coach dropping

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>with the importance of creating pressure to insulate coverage. Yeah,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and you do that by finding guys who can rush

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the passer. And so to get this guy's UDFA. And

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>again he's undersized, there's lots of issues. He's got thirty

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>two inch arms, not great length. But man, if that

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>even pops up a little bit and you get and

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you're able to get some pressures out of this guy

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>over the course of the year, that's a win, you admit,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's not a big investment. It's a UDIFA. Just

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>you made a phone call, Hey, you want to come

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>be a commander. He's like yeah, and it's like cool,

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>come on up, let's do it. So I think that's

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>those are those are two names I think are interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here goes my segue again, Sam harton the

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>qv from Notre Dame. So uh, probably the most handsome

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>guy of the draft.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're that's a ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you a quick little story. So

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>my wife's best friend went to Notre Dame. Okay, so

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>big Notre Dame fan knows who Sam Hartman is. Definitely

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>knows who Sam Hartman is. So my wife texts me

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>when we the we signed him. Here he goes, can

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I bring my friend to meet Sam Hartman? I went

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not, No, I will bring your friends to meet

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Sam Hartin. You can stay at.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Home, they'll tell you. So my wife had similar thing.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about we were at a friend's

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>house and they're like, oh, they drafted this quarterback, Sam Hartman.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>My friend is my wife's friend is a huge Commanders

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>FANFA and she was like, who's this guy? And I

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, he's maybe the most handsome man on her

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>because she's like no, and she got her phone out,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>got really quiet and was like, oh my I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be etched in my brain when he ran

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the fourty.

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they get slow mo with.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>His hair and glad he's here. The reason I'm glad

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he's here.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Not because he's hands.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>It's not because he's hands, because he can play football right.

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and thirty four touchdowns, that's first all time

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>in the ACC. Fifteen thousand, six hundred and fifty six yards,

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>that's second all time for the ACC. One hundred and

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>one passing touchdown since twenty and twenty one, that is

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>first among all quarterbacks and another team captain. This guy

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 2>just gets it done.

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Ball.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one thing, the one thing, not a strong arm, no,

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<v Speaker 2>comparatively at the combine, Joe Milton through the ball. They

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>clocked it at seventy two miles an hour, sixty two,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty two was it sixty two?

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I think he was like fifty four.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Okay, sixty two and then yeah, McCarthy was

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>right there with Milton, and yeah, Sam Hartman was. It

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit low, but accurate with the ball.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>The ball right, So like plays the position so like.

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of conversation about his like

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>limited athletic tools, you know, But the thing that comes

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that when you watch this film, like he gets how

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to play quarterback, understands what to.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Do with his eyes, understand his reads, understands.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>The protections, and you know, Adam Peters has had a

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of success with Rock Party. I'm not saying this

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>is Rock Party. I think Rock Party has a little

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>bit more athletic juice, a little bit.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 3>More physical talent.

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But there is value to basically saying, like, you know

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>how to play the position the way it's supposed to

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>be played. Maybe if things look good through the OTA

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>training camp process, you're the third quarterback, you're the practice

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>squad guy, something like that. But having someone with that

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>level of experience, the level of college production in the

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>building is ever a bad thing.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so, Hi IQ GUYI, Hi IQ guy. Hi

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you guys all right, Austin Jones are running back from US.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Most people know Marshawn Lloyd from US. Yeah, this was

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the other that was there. He had threes out three,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and thirty eight total yards in his career

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>with twenty seven touchdowns. In twenty twenty two. He had

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>seven and one one hundred and five rushing yards, nine

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy two receiving yards I put, passing yards

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I met receiving yards, and six yards per touch average,

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So pretty productive.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Pretty productive.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So Austin, I'm gonna put the two running backs in

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the same category because they are really similar to me.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>So Austin Jones and Michael Wiley from Arizona running back

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>from Arizona, and so basically when you watch them as runners,

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>they're fine. You know, there's nothing to write home about.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Where they kind of excel is catching the football. Yeah,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're not crazy athletic. They're not you know, running

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>four twos or four threes anything like that, but they're

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>very efficient catching the ball. So I do think they

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of identified a skill set. They said, these guys

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>can pass, protect and catch the ball well and Wiley specifically,

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they kind.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Of lined them up all over the formation.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>He did a lot of his damage, you know, catching

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>yards after catch screens, things like that. So you know,

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously that running back room is going to be very tight,

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>very competitive. You know, McNichols is a very good player.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>They're kind of in that same mold Chris Rodriguez, b

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Rob and obviously Austin Eckler kind of the archetypical third

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>down back in the NFL. But they are very much

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>third down runners, yeah, because they're not on first, second down,

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're okay. Like, there's certain guys you watch me,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh look, this guy's got like Marshall Lloyd's a great example.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>He's got some creative ability. He can break tackles, he

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>can do all these things. They're not really in that bucket.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Their value is pass catchers and in pass protection.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>So with Wiley, the running back from Arizona, he had

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 2>forty nine games in his career, twenty eight touchdowns, and

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>he scored on every sixteen point three touches. He had

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a nose for the end zone. Another undrafted free agent

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>running back that is here that has a nose for

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the end zone is Austin X. Yes, that's right, right,

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So what a great Like we were talking about earlier

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>young guys coming in with veterans that Peters and Quinne

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.479
<v Speaker 2>brought in. What a great guy to have leading your

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>running back room. Now in Eckler, with these young guys

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>coming in undrafted, he's been through it. He knows how

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.919
<v Speaker 2>to get it done. He knows how to go through

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 2>that process of being undrafted running back. And like, there's

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>some guys here that have I don't want to say

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 2>they're similar to Austin Eckler, but they have a nose

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>for the end zone, right, They find a way to

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>make plays to get yards and it's like got something

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>here made.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 3>And Austin Eckler was a freak. Yeah.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Physically you know, he was like a six hundred pounds

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>backsquad guy, very fast, very explosive. These guys aren't that

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 1>same athletes, you know, that same physicality, but in terms

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>of catching the ball and making a career doing that,

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like talk about a great role model. A guy that

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>started his career doing that, I was able to kind

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of develop into something more.

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 2>There's one more running back one here, is there?

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about him? Oh?

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, so yeah, we can tell. So I've actually going

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>to include him in the other group. Okay, so we're

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>the next The next we're going to do is we're

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>going to do Ben Nickel wide receiver, quarterback slash quarterback

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>from Iowa State. We're going to do Tyler oh safety

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>from Texas Tech. And we're gonna do Coolson Yankov running

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>back for UCLA. And the reason we're gonna put those

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>guys in all and also we could put the receiver

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>from Georgia in here if you want to, but I

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be his own thing.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll do him.

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But those three guys to me are really interesting. So

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>let's start with Ben Nickel from I always say, basically,

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>a non scholarship player does not play any position, defense

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>or offense. He is a absolute lunatic. Lunatic on special teams, yes,

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like that is his thing. Like he is a missile

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>on covering kicks. He's going to play gunner, He's going

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to play vice, He's going to do all of that stuff.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>And so like when I think when I see this guy,

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>not the same athlete, but I think of like Matthew

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Slater for New England, like didn't really have a position

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in college. I played with him actually at UCLA, so

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>played corner.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, you're not going to for corner, played receiver, uh,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>but was an excellent special teams guy. And there is

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>value there. You know what I mean is Oo's the

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>new special teams coordinator. I think he sees the value

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of a guy who's tough, competitive, made his own way,

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>earned a scholarship. We'll figure out what he whether he's

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a receiver or corner at the next level, but teams teams, teams, teams,

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>teams all day for him.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>And we know how important teams is here with guys

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like all pro Revo Jeremy comes here. So but yes,

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 2>he was a walk one, earned the scholarship, a co captain.

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Really I didn't know that, yep, and a co captain.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>So like, like you said, a guy that like may

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>not be the most athletically traded guy, but just like

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>a maniac earns you respect.

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Maniac is a good way to explain it. Like it'll

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see how he like where he kind

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of fits in. But yeah, an absolute lunatic on teams.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Next guy Tyler Owens. He is a physical freak. He's

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>six two fifteen. He's got thirty three in a quarter,

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like very similar to Dominic Campton. He broke the combine

0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>record for broad jumps, so maybe the most explosive different

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and than fastest.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Well foot two broad jump.

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It's maybe the most explosive dude in the history of

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.479
<v Speaker 1>the combine. I think he had forty one inch vertical right.

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>That was first among the all safety.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>He is big, he's explosive, like when you see him

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>hit people, he injects people from the screen. You see

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the explosive in this show up. The problem with him

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>is on defense, not overly instinctive. He transferred from Texas.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>He's transferred from Texas to Texas Tech, never really got

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>on the field, but plays special teams like an absolute

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>insane person, you know what I'm saying. So like a

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>guy that is frustrating because you say to yourself you athletically, physically,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you are what you draw up to play that star

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>safety position near the line of scrimmage. And here's a

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>guy that I also think kind of in that Dominie

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Campton role right where it's like you were playing post

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>safety in college. That's not your bag. Let's get you

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>near the line of scrimmagers that you're covering tight ends.

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's get you in man coverage. But in terms of

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's going to have an impact right now,

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>like it'll be on teams, like absolutely lighting people up,

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>being the first one down on kicks. Like they definitely

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 1>made it a point of emphasis to say you're a

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>freak athlete. We'll figure out we're going to do with you. Again,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I hope that they're able to kind of say, hey,

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you're at a position here, let's move you towards at

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. But the reason they're all these guys

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>are clustered together, including Coolston Yankov running back from UCLA

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Teams guys teams, teams, teams, teams, teams. Yankov played quarterback

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>at udub transfer to UCLA. They moved into a running back,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they moved to a receiver. He played a little bit

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of linebacker. He's just an athlete that hasn't been able

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to find like a true identity yet.

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think he led the.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Team in special teams tackles like led So every game

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he was getting three to four special teams tackles. So

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>dude is an absolute maniac. And also I think you

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>have this on here. Return kicks.

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yep, return kicks.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So that's why those guys are all kind of closer together.

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he had sixteen kick returns for three hundred

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and thirty four yards, which is pretty darn good. And

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>he was fifth in the Pac twelve and return yards,

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>but he received less opportunities and the guys ahead of him,

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>so very productive as far as kick.

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>And also big guy. He's six ' four six four

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half to twenty five two thirty. I think

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>he ran like a sub four or five at his PROTA.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to confirm that because the PRODA

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 1>numbers aren't coming out. But talk about big, explosive guy

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that made his value on teams, and it's kind of

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 1>like we'll figure out what role to be. So those

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>three guys, Ben Nickel, Tyler Owens circle that name too.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Man just that athletic profile and that size is so unique,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 3>is so unique.

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>That like, as long as he's not totally an apt

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to playing safety, they'll find a way to keep him around.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And then Colson niekov special teams ace with again the

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.240
<v Speaker 1>guy that kind of fits this.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Positionless football, Kyle Yuschek. Where do we find value for

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 3>you on the field.

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about AJ Woods, a cornerback from pitt He

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>went to u A High school in Germantown, Maryland, the

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>same high school he went to. Yeah local kid, so

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>hoping the best for him. In his career, he had

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and five tackles, two sacks, four interceptions, twenty

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 2>nine pass defense and one for sun. What do you

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>know about A J.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Woods? I don't really know that much about him. I

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 3>was able to find any film on him.

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you know, when you're kind of scouring the internet,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the hard thing about some of

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>these guys. So I put him aj Woods with our

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.959
<v Speaker 1>tackle buddy, David. I want to give that a shot.

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 1>David will Goog from Toledo obviously with google's a former

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>basketball player. Share expecting high end upside, but he's transferred

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>schools multiple times. He's six ' five three ten three

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 1>three oh five, so it's like, I.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Don't know how he moves. I don't know anything about him.

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Those guys are the same bucket for me, not because

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I think they're bad players. I just wasn't able to

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>find anything film related on either one of them.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how good are NFL scouts that they're finding

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 2>these guys who could be diamonds in the rough. I mean,

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 2>for with Goog, you started all fourteen games last year

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty three for Toledo on the line. That

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>line ranked fourth in the nation in sacks allowed only

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>zero point seventy nine sacks per game. That's pretty good.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>That offense in the MAC was first in scoring, total offense,

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and pass efficiency, and they were eighth in the nation

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<v Speaker 2>in rushing rushing offense. So he was a part of

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<v Speaker 2>a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, absolutely, and the athletic the basketball background with

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. I'm always really intrigued by that because you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for big, lean athletes and he's a big lean athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>Just depends on, you know, how he's able to develop. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer things is a little bit interesting, but yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scouts get paid and they get paid a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money, a lot more than we do. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully they found the right guy and that leaves one

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<v Speaker 1>more person on our list, right, Yes, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe my I had actually had a really high grade

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<v Speaker 1>on him coming out this So what's his name? Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>rosemy Jack saint YEP wide receiver from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's six to two. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>I can look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Took it up. I think he's six to two, about

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<v Speaker 3>two ten.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved his film, Like I'm always looking for

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I think embody kind of the dirty work

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>traits of a position, and he's a guy that definitely

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<v Speaker 1>did that for me. He's rolling the block, willing to

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<v Speaker 1>make tough contested catches. Not kind of the guy at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously that's Lad mccognity, but he was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely I just I really enjoyed watching his film.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he had a medical issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I think had an acl that they were people are

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<v Speaker 1>a knee issue that people were concerned about, which is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe why goes undrafted. But I love the player, love

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<v Speaker 1>the way he approaches the game, loved the like the

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<v Speaker 1>yards after catchability, blocking on screens like probably again has

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<v Speaker 1>special teams value, but I really enjoyed he was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my one of my kind of dark horse receiver

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<v Speaker 1>guys that it just like I just liked him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm really happy to see him here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's six two one ninety five. So here's something

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<v Speaker 2>that's I think pretty good about him. Yeah, for a

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver. You want to see this. He's had zero

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<v Speaker 2>drop the passes since twenty twenty two. That's with eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight targets. Yeah, zero drop passes in his whole career.

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<v Speaker 2>Only two drop passes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude catches ball, Yeah catch.

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>You love to see that from a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows up on tape. He does the receiver stuff well,

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<v Speaker 1>runs good routes, physical blocking, makes tough catches. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he did find at the Senior Bowl, like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the best wasn't the worst, kind of right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle there, and that's what you expect from him.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy that's going to have a nice role on

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<v Speaker 1>the team. But I love the way he approaches it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if his medical was better, like if

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<v Speaker 1>he's if he's drafted to a different team.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you can really see with this process how

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<v Speaker 2>Peters and Quinn and the whole staff here are putting

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<v Speaker 2>the pieces of the puzzle together, from free agency bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in the veterans that they did at the positions that

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<v Speaker 2>they did, to the draft to the undrafted free agents.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be more free agency signings that come along.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure like you can start to see this team

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<v Speaker 2>get built and in the image that they said that

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to do it absolutely what you have

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<v Speaker 2>here with them is all these guys are guys that

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<v Speaker 2>love football. They either have athletic traits or just the

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<v Speaker 2>design correct to be better all the time always, and

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<v Speaker 2>in many cases both of those things. And like there

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly a culture with what they're building here and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see how this plays out on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>This draft strategy that we haven't seen in Washington in

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's it's extremely exciting and it's you

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<v Speaker 1>hit the nail on the head there. It's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of guy they're bringing in, and I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty encouraging. They're all kind of wired the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though I haven't seen, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these undrafted for agent guys, I know that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be kind of cut from the same cloth, of

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<v Speaker 1>the same mold, because that's kind of what they've prioritized

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the process, which is always really exciting. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to do it for today's show, for

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<v Speaker 1>day Yeah, and let us know, right, let us know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're interested in seeing more of these shows, the

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<v Speaker 1>once a month thing, the updates and what you want

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to see in those shows, We really appreciate it. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to do it for today, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.