Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft podcast, presented by Seekik,
Speaker 1: the official primary ticketing partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm
Speaker 1: Logan Paulson here with Jess the Guy, Jason and Jason.
Speaker 1: We are doing a draft recap coupled with some free
Speaker 1: agency stuff, right, is that we're doing it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the undrafted free agents, the rookies that weren't drafted
Speaker 2: but came in much like your path.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right exactly. Yeah, So really looking forward to
Speaker 1: talking about some of those guys because I have a
Speaker 1: obviously a special place in my heart for those types
Speaker 1: of guys.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I do know you made a pretty
Speaker 2: pretty darn good career even though you weren't drafted, and
Speaker 2: so did like London Fletcher, like, there are ballplayers that
Speaker 2: come out of the UDFA, So it's worth talking about
Speaker 2: some of these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So first off, we got an announcement though
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about so obviously this show is
Speaker 1: called Ticket of the Draft. Yeah, and the Draft is over,
Speaker 1: but we feel like we can still do shows kind
Speaker 1: of recapping how the rookie, our rookie draft class is doing,
Speaker 1: rookie class as a whole is doing how our evaluations
Speaker 1: are holding up. But we feel like we don't need
Speaker 1: to do that every single week, so we're gonna do
Speaker 1: once a month basically, right, Is that kind of the
Speaker 1: gist of it.
Speaker 2: Overall, Like the response from our fans over this podcast
Speaker 2: has been tremendous, So we don't want to just leave
Speaker 2: you guys right where our last episode was instant reactions
Speaker 2: after the second and third round, we thought that was
Speaker 2: the end, so it was a little sad, but then
Speaker 2: we looked at the numbers and we're like, man, we
Speaker 2: can do something here, like you were saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the rest of the draft,
Speaker 2: the udfas and maybe I'm going to say once a
Speaker 2: month ish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give or take.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're going to look in on how the
Speaker 2: rookies were doing here. The draft is over, but I
Speaker 2: think it's worth keeping up with them. Let's see how
Speaker 2: they panned out, like all this hype about them, all
Speaker 2: these like all the analysis we did, all the hours
Speaker 2: we spend in film, like, let's see how it pans out. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll talk you through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like one of the things I
Speaker 1: always appreciate, I always I find very frustrating about draft
Speaker 1: analysis in general is they give you your grade, it's
Speaker 1: the day after the draft, but then what does that
Speaker 1: look like a month, two months, six months from now
Speaker 1: when they're playing football games. We can maybe revisit some
Speaker 1: of these picks obviously internally, but some of the guys
Speaker 1: we liked maybe that are on different teams to kind
Speaker 1: of talk through, you know, maybe why they hit, why
Speaker 1: they didn't hit, and kind of take you on our
Speaker 1: journey as we refine our scouting process.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of that'll be that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it doesn't just end with the draft as
Speaker 2: far as like scouting goes.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to do this again next year,
Speaker 2: which I would like to do as far as like
Speaker 2: scouting more prospects and watching film, I want to learn
Speaker 2: from this. So how do I learn? Well, I need
Speaker 2: to see what the result is, right, So I need
Speaker 2: to like take a microscope to migrating process my scouting process,
Speaker 2: or how did it pan out? Where did I get
Speaker 2: it wrong? How can I refine so that if ticket
Speaker 2: to the draft twenty twenty or five homes up, we're
Speaker 2: a little more I don't want to say accurate, but
Speaker 2: we're a little more.
Speaker 3: Polished, Yeah, a little bit more refined up. But in
Speaker 3: the meantime, let's review our draft.
Speaker 1: Obviously, like we're gonna go quickly through kind of the
Speaker 1: drafted guys because we did a you know what we do,
Speaker 1: We did a first day recap, second day recap, so
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys we've already talked about, but
Speaker 1: just kind of as refreshers. Obviously, Jade and Daniels were
Speaker 1: both really stoked on that. Yeah, that's probably the end
Speaker 1: of the analysis. There'shn Newton, he falls to the Commanders
Speaker 1: at the top of the second round.
Speaker 3: There, good football player. We're both excited about him.
Speaker 1: Guy that I'm probably most excited about of these top
Speaker 1: three is Mike Sandristil. I just like loved his film,
Speaker 1: Love the kind of competitor, love the leadership, love the
Speaker 1: ball skills, and I just think about him in this
Speaker 1: Commander's defense, you know, kind of looking at what they
Speaker 1: did in Dallas, and I just get really stoked for
Speaker 1: what he means. And also I think he's interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, what does he mean for Kwan Martin, What
Speaker 1: does he mean for Benjamin Saint Jus. He's just this
Speaker 1: really dynamic piece that plays Nickel and we had a
Speaker 1: good football player in Nickel before in Kwan. Do like
Speaker 1: what role does does Quand now take or does Mike
Speaker 1: and Wills will take a different role? So I think
Speaker 1: that's a really compelling decision there, honestly, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of the direction that the defense is going with
Speaker 1: this selection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a baller, and I want to see how
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Forbes responds all this too, Not that it's like
Speaker 2: I just wonder how it's gonna help his game because
Speaker 2: he had a little bit of a rough rookie season,
Speaker 2: but the talent is there. Yeah, right, he's a good
Speaker 2: player and I'm expecting a bounce back season for him,
Speaker 2: and like just helping secure the secondary, make the secondary
Speaker 2: another ballhawk is out there, right, So like, how does
Speaker 2: that help Forbes his game? How does that help develop
Speaker 2: him and grow him? And like, I think it can
Speaker 2: only be up right, Like I think this group is
Speaker 2: getting better. So I'm just I'm excited the impact like
Speaker 2: you said with Benzaman Saint Juice with Kwan, I'm excited
Speaker 2: mostly with Forbes. I'd love to see him getting ballack
Speaker 2: ballhawk role as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think again, like The thing I'm also
Speaker 1: excited about is this is a little bit off topic,
Speaker 1: a little bit out of the scope of this show specifically,
Speaker 1: is just how the coaching is going to affect that group.
Speaker 1: I think everyone talking about the quarterback, but to me,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see how the coaching additions of
Speaker 1: players like Mike Sanders still impact this defense. And I
Speaker 1: really think that if that group can come together, it's
Speaker 1: got a bunch of talented pieces. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: last year, coaching wasn't maybe we were supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this gets them corrected, obviously. And then the next
Speaker 1: pick is Bensonatt from Kansas State, the tight end, and
Speaker 1: I'm again really excited to see how he's going to
Speaker 1: be used, Like is he the fullback?
Speaker 3: Is he the move guy?
Speaker 1: Ken Cliff Kingsbury use him to kind of create matchups
Speaker 1: in the offense. I think it's going to be really interesting.
Speaker 1: And how do you maximize his skill set because he's
Speaker 1: not like a true inline guy, but he's not a
Speaker 1: true off the ball guy. He's got this tremendous athletic profile.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at the force played data in
Speaker 1: his vertical jumps didn't really show up in the forty.
Speaker 1: I mean, he ran a fast forty as a four
Speaker 1: to six something, but I think the explosive measurements in
Speaker 1: those jumps kind of make me think there's more in
Speaker 1: the tank there from an athletic perspective. Tracks the ball well,
Speaker 1: mismatch weapon, nice physicality, so really curious to see what
Speaker 1: he's going to be. And then Brandon Coleman, the offensive
Speaker 1: tack from TCU, I think is maybe to me, maybe
Speaker 1: the most interesting pick of the entire draft for the Commanders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would say because like you know, there was
Speaker 1: all these names who were kind of bantering about, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got you know, you're Patrick Paul's your Kings, Usumatis,
Speaker 1: You're Karen Amadigi from Yale, You're Roger like those kind
Speaker 1: of four guys. And I had a conversation with Trevor
Speaker 1: Sickoman to day actually, and one of the things he
Speaker 1: said is that he actually had Brandon Coleman as a tackle,
Speaker 1: like the third guy in that group, you know, as
Speaker 1: opposed to saying, you know, I had him as a guard.
Speaker 1: But I think when you look at the arm length,
Speaker 1: you look at the athletic profile, you look at the
Speaker 1: basketball background. You look at the kind of the the
Speaker 1: novelty he's been exposed to with football. He didn't play
Speaker 1: high school football, you know, he played a juco transfer
Speaker 1: to TCU, so he's really new to the game. And
Speaker 1: you think if you look at the athlete, look at
Speaker 1: the length, you say, man, maybe he could be something
Speaker 1: pretty special here at offensive tackle. I think he's got
Speaker 1: to develop a little bit. But you know, like we've
Speaker 1: seen guys develop really quickly third round picks become impact
Speaker 1: players along the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's seventieth percentile in the tackle position in length. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when his measurements came in. And I think the PFF
Speaker 2: stats that have come out that we've been talking about
Speaker 2: with him all the time is this one. It's the
Speaker 2: one three hundred and seven pass blocking snaps in his
Speaker 2: college career, only fifty four QB pretchers and only three
Speaker 2: sacks allowed when a national championship team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've talked about this a lot too. Like
Speaker 1: he you know, I think there's some novelty, like some
Speaker 1: obviously he's new to playing football, but I think the
Speaker 1: thing that sticks out is he does have a pretty
Speaker 1: decent feel for like his relationship to the rusher. Now
Speaker 1: it's now, it's not perfect all the time, but I
Speaker 1: think you see a really nice floor. And then because
Speaker 1: that floor is so high, and because of those athletic
Speaker 1: measurs athletic measurables are so are also so high. You say, man,
Speaker 1: maybe this guy can become like kind of a pretty
Speaker 1: special left tackle. But again, there's some growth there, some
Speaker 1: development that needs to happened. But really really curious to
Speaker 1: see how that happens, because I know people has been
Speaker 1: calling for left tackle, left tackle, left tackle again. I
Speaker 1: think this is a good reason why Cornelius Lucas is here,
Speaker 1: because I think Cornelia Szucas can hold down the fort
Speaker 1: you know, if Brandon Coleman does need to develop, and
Speaker 1: I think also Brandon Coleman's.
Speaker 3: Flexibility to guard is also valuable here.
Speaker 1: Let's say Cornelias Lucas comes out and plays excellent in
Speaker 1: training camp, and then this allows you to get your
Speaker 1: best five guys on the field, which would be which
Speaker 1: would be pretty cool, especially if corn can get that done.
Speaker 1: Next guy, Luke McCaffrey, a guy that I think we're
Speaker 1: both pretty high on.
Speaker 3: Also new to the receiver position. Some novelty there.
Speaker 1: It's funny like Mike Sanders still Brandon Coleman and Luke
Speaker 1: McCaffrey all kind of new, not the football but to
Speaker 1: the position that they're playing. Mike Sanders still changed from receiver,
Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey moved a receiver from quarterback. Kind of that tough,
Speaker 1: big slot guy, tremendous and contested catch situations. I think
Speaker 1: short area quickness tested better than shows up on film.
Speaker 1: But I think as he gets more into the position,
Speaker 1: I think they'll just grow and become more nuanced. And
Speaker 1: a guy that I think think again has a great
Speaker 1: floor because of the pedigree, the background, obviously his brother
Speaker 1: and his father. His mother was a college softball player,
Speaker 1: his grandfather was an Olympic track athlete. Like, there is
Speaker 1: a pedigree of professionalism with him that I think sets
Speaker 1: the floor. And I think when you look at his
Speaker 1: improvement since he made the transition a wide receiver, I
Speaker 1: think you were telling me this. He had two touchdowns
Speaker 1: in twenty two and then fourteen or sixteen touchdowns in
Speaker 1: twenty three. So obviously a guy that's really kind of
Speaker 1: on this exponential learning curve, much like Jane Daniels too, right,
Speaker 1: you just see guys on this kind of nice linear trajectory.
Speaker 1: So a guy that I think is going to make
Speaker 1: an impact, kind of fill that big slot role, willing
Speaker 1: to do the dirty work, but also has some nice
Speaker 1: athletic traits in addition to good size that makes you
Speaker 1: excited about the direction that position is going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He had top six finishes in seven
Speaker 2: per play statistical categories. I know that's kind of a
Speaker 2: word salid, but basically what that means is he was solid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was solid across the board. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: he had perfect averages in catchable pass catch rate.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: According to PF it means that if the ball is
Speaker 2: close and he should catch it, he caught it. And
Speaker 2: he had zero drop passes in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing about him that's really cool
Speaker 1: is that that catch rate. Sometimes it doesn't show up
Speaker 1: with guys with him, it shows up like he's taking
Speaker 1: big hits, he's being physical over the middle of field.
Speaker 1: And again, a guy that five floor but really excited
Speaker 1: about where his ceiling could be, especially with a staff
Speaker 1: that's focused on developing talent like his. So now so
Speaker 1: we've all we've talked about those guys already, so we
Speaker 1: kind of breeze through them. If you want more detailed analysis,
Speaker 1: make sure you go check out the last two podcasts
Speaker 1: where we kind of recap Day one and Day two.
Speaker 1: But now we're into guys we haven't talked about. So
Speaker 1: these are the fifth and seventh round selections for the team,
Speaker 1: in addition to the UDFA the rookie udfas.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna start with it just neither drafted guys first,
Speaker 3: drafted guys first.
Speaker 1: We're new three, so obviously that's Shortan m, Dominique Campton,
Speaker 1: and Javonte Jean Baptiste from Notre Dame. So Jordan McGee,
Speaker 1: linebacker from Temple to me is I'm very excited about him.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm very excited about him, and I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying that because he's now a commander, but
Speaker 1: I was excited about him before. He's a guy that's
Speaker 1: very instinctive. He's fast the football. He ran a four
Speaker 1: to five two at the combine. He's got thirty two
Speaker 1: inch arms, he's sixty three, he's two twenty five, so
Speaker 1: kind of built like a safety, runs downhill. Physical to
Speaker 1: the football reminds me of like Malcolm Smith He played
Speaker 1: linebacker at USC for a while, played for Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: played for San Francisco. A little undersize, but tremendously instinctive
Speaker 1: to the football, understands his reads really well, and maybe
Speaker 1: the most important part of his game is he has
Speaker 1: a good sense for reading the quarterback and identifying his
Speaker 1: coverage responsibilities, which is something that like, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about Jeremiah Trotter junior, we talked about some of
Speaker 1: these other linebacker prospects that Eichenberg from Ohio State. I
Speaker 1: never saw that from them, you know, and to see
Speaker 1: because to me, like the way the position is transitioning
Speaker 1: is you need to have guys that are excellent coverage
Speaker 1: players and really decisive to run fits. And I think
Speaker 1: he does both of those things really really well. And
Speaker 1: I think his floor right now, he's probably going to
Speaker 1: be a rotational special teams type of guy to start,
Speaker 1: But the ceiling because of those traits reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of like and they're not the same player. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say this right now, They're not the same player,
Speaker 1: but in terms of fitting kind of archetypal molds, like
Speaker 1: Fred Warner is kind of what I look at like
Speaker 1: he played star kind of safety, highbred linebacker in college.
Speaker 1: So the coverage ability translates, the run and hit ability translates,
Speaker 1: and I see a lot of those similarities in terms
Speaker 1: of a guy that can cover and a guy that
Speaker 1: can be sideline a sideline but also isn't afraid to
Speaker 1: get down.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 1: Again, not a perfect prospect gets chewed up a little
Speaker 1: bit by bigger offensive linemen. You see him get a
Speaker 1: race a little bit, but when he sees it and
Speaker 1: he can run, he's quick, he's decisive, which is I
Speaker 1: think is a guy that I think is going to
Speaker 1: project to something more as you move forward.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about him. Sure, when
Speaker 2: you say undersized linebacker, the first thing that comes to
Speaker 2: mind as a Washington fan is, well, London Fletcher was undersized.
Speaker 2: So how much does being undersized at the linebacker position
Speaker 2: actually matter when you have those instinctual tendencies like what
Speaker 2: you're talking about. And I'm not saying he's going to
Speaker 2: be London Fletched, Oh right, but London Fletcher went undrafted.
Speaker 2: It was probably because of his size, right, So like,
Speaker 2: what at some point with linebacker, where do you go?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's definitely becoming, in my opinion, around the league,
Speaker 1: a little bit less important. It'd be like prototypical size.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like because like if you look
Speaker 1: around the league, everyone's throwing the football. You're in sub
Speaker 1: packages all the time, sub meaning you're in you know,
Speaker 1: three wide receivers, a tight end in the back, more offensively,
Speaker 1: and so you're throwing the football more. You're in nickel
Speaker 1: sixty percent of the time. Nickel offenses don't run the
Speaker 1: football as much. So it really becomes down to like
Speaker 1: your coverage ability, and so I don't think it's as important,
Speaker 1: especially if you're kind of playing like a one gap defense,
Speaker 1: which Dan has always played. That's always been a part
Speaker 1: of Dan's philosophy, is a one gap defense. You have
Speaker 1: one gap, get there. It limits your ability to kind
Speaker 1: of have to two gap and read and fight with
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. So it's not as important. But I do
Speaker 1: think the thing with him is his weight is a
Speaker 1: little bit you know down it's two twenty five to
Speaker 1: twenty two something like that, and it just makes it
Speaker 1: harder when you're dealing with like bigger offensive linemen. You know,
Speaker 1: like you just like fighting them off, and so like
Speaker 1: when you watch NFL games and you see these guys
Speaker 1: that are kind of like these. I think Dallas is
Speaker 1: a great example. You know, they kind of I forget
Speaker 1: where the kid was from, but he was basically a
Speaker 1: big safety that they moved to linebacker. Great ball instincts,
Speaker 1: could run to the football and covered up, but when
Speaker 1: he had to defeat blocks, that that skill set wasn't
Speaker 1: there for him. Now, I think he can develop that
Speaker 1: skill set. I'm talking about the kid from Dallas now,
Speaker 1: but I think McGee is a little bit better in
Speaker 1: that area. But that's something that I definitely think he
Speaker 1: needs to work on about London Fletcher. London Fletcher was
Speaker 1: a was a true unicorn in that way. You know,
Speaker 1: he's five ten, five eleven whatever he is, but he's
Speaker 1: two thirty five to forty.
Speaker 2: He is a fire hydrot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he runs a four to four like he's
Speaker 1: he's he's unique, and he had a very and he
Speaker 1: understood what he did well and he Underson had to
Speaker 1: defeat blocks, and again, I think McGee shows a little
Speaker 1: bit of that, but he's going to have to get
Speaker 1: better at it. But I think the thing that gets
Speaker 1: you excited is the coverage ability.
Speaker 2: McGhee had to career a career best PFF grade of
Speaker 2: eighty seven point two in twenty twenty three, which means
Speaker 2: he's getting better as he goes along, and that seems
Speaker 2: to be a theme of some of these guys that
Speaker 2: are drafted or brought in here as rookies. Another one
Speaker 2: is Dominique Campton, the safety from Washington. He had career
Speaker 2: highs in ball production in twenty twenty three. He had
Speaker 2: seven pass breakups, two interceptions. So guys that are getting
Speaker 2: better throughout college and they hope that that continues here.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about Dominique Campton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he led the team into last year,
Speaker 1: the Washington Huskies, and he's a guy that is I
Speaker 1: think he's six to two, he's two fifteen. He's got
Speaker 1: thirty three and a quarter thirty three and a half
Speaker 1: inch arms, so.
Speaker 3: A big guy. He's a big player.
Speaker 1: It kind of looks like a spider out there running
Speaker 1: around in the secondary. Plays with a physical mentality, plays
Speaker 1: with great energy. He played corner when he first came
Speaker 1: into UW. He's been there for six years. She's been
Speaker 1: there for a long time. He's a COVID baby, right,
Speaker 1: and he has some nice coverage ability, but gets a
Speaker 1: little bit handsy at times. But I man, I after
Speaker 1: watching his film again, I rewatched some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that was online last night and the night before. He's
Speaker 1: to me, he's like a dark horse to make the roster.
Speaker 1: Like he's just got a very unique skill set. He
Speaker 1: can kind of play that safety linebacker Buffalo Nickel, highbred
Speaker 1: type role, which is kind of sweeping the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in an interview Adam Peters called it
Speaker 2: the star position. Yeah, right, you're gonna call it here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that star spot for me again, he's the energy,
Speaker 1: the acumen, the experience that he's got. I think he'll
Speaker 1: probably kind of fit in ats the special teams guy
Speaker 1: to start, But I don't know, Like when I watch
Speaker 1: this film, I like, man, this guy the projection for
Speaker 1: him because there's times when you watch him and you're
Speaker 1: kind of like, man, he's a little out of position.
Speaker 1: He's playing post safety, he's playing a quarter safety. But
Speaker 1: when he's down near the line of scrimmage, I think
Speaker 1: you see a really dynamic playmaker. And so I think
Speaker 1: Dan and this staff understands like what guys do well
Speaker 1: like that. That's been Dan's m since I knew him
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Like, what do you do? Well, let's have
Speaker 1: you do that. And I think we're not going to
Speaker 1: have him play in the post. We're gonna have him
Speaker 1: played near the line of scrimmage where he can be
Speaker 1: aggressive and downhill and give him clear rules because I
Speaker 1: do think he can cover. I think he can match
Speaker 1: up with tight ends. Arm link is definitely there. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: he's a guy to me, like, if you're a fan
Speaker 1: at home, circle that name to kind of watch and
Speaker 1: keep an eye on in training camp because I think
Speaker 1: there's a really easy path for his physicality and for
Speaker 1: his skill set. Again, a really nice athlete run a
Speaker 1: four or five at the combine. He had like a
Speaker 1: thirty nine in vertical jump, so twitched up, explosive, long, physical,
Speaker 1: Those guys tend to kind of find a role quicker
Speaker 1: than other guys in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the next guy the seventh round Javante Jean Baptistete,
Speaker 2: the defensive end from Notre Dame by way of Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when you're getting into the seventh round,
Speaker 2: right and you're taking guys around here, I think you're
Speaker 2: looking for some things like this. He was in the
Speaker 2: ninetieth percentile. In broad jump, he had a ten foot
Speaker 2: five broad jump. That's pretty darn good explosive. Reportedly, he
Speaker 2: hit twenty miles per hour on the GPS in a game.
Speaker 2: That's good year pretty fast. And he has an eighty
Speaker 2: five point four PFF run defense grave So for an
Speaker 2: end who does get pressures, he had thirty eight pressures
Speaker 2: last season. He is a good run stopper for an end,
Speaker 2: and so I guess those are the traits that you're
Speaker 2: looking for in like the seventh round.
Speaker 1: Right, I think he had a top five, top five
Speaker 1: or top seven forty yard dash. The combined round a
Speaker 1: four to sixty six. So he's six ' five, he's
Speaker 1: two thirty five. So not like the biggest guy in
Speaker 1: the world. He should He should be based on his
Speaker 1: athletic measurables, like more productive than he is. And that's
Speaker 1: not like a knock on him, like, but like when
Speaker 1: you when he walks into a building, you're like, that
Speaker 1: guy should be an amazing pass rusher. And when you
Speaker 1: watch him, he'll show you something you're like, oh, dang,
Speaker 1: like that, look at this dude run, look at this move,
Speaker 1: and then he'll go through about a ten play sequence
Speaker 1: where he's just kind of out there.
Speaker 3: Not that he's not.
Speaker 1: He plays hard, but he just looks a little unsure
Speaker 1: certain about what his plan is on a down to
Speaker 1: down basis.
Speaker 2: Right, So do coaches look at that and go weaken?
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so.
Speaker 1: And again, like in terms of guys that I again like,
Speaker 1: I think it was like a as Dan guys. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the least three guys to me are like Dan guys,
Speaker 1: Jordan McGee, Dominic Campton, John Baptist, Because Jean Baptiste, if
Speaker 1: you get him with a good D line coach and
Speaker 1: you say, hey, man, do like these four things really well?
Speaker 1: As a pass rusher, he could become a guy that
Speaker 1: makes the roster and his productive. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. I'm not saying he's going to change
Speaker 1: the world here, but I think he's a guy that
Speaker 1: could be very impactful in that regard. And I like
Speaker 1: the selection because I always get mad when in the
Speaker 1: seventh round you take a guy that has no opportunity
Speaker 1: to ever play football for your team. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: his ceiling is a special teams guy, or his ceiling
Speaker 1: is the third linebacker on goal line it's like I
Speaker 1: get it, but like, let's take someone that is going
Speaker 1: to be a good football player, like kind of at
Speaker 1: a base you mentioned the run defense grade. That's always
Speaker 1: a great metric for like just solid production at the
Speaker 1: NFL level, Like if you can stop the run, you
Speaker 1: can play footba.
Speaker 3: At the NFL level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe he could be something more with that
Speaker 1: athletic frame, that kind of wiry length and the speed
Speaker 1: that he's shown.
Speaker 2: So all right, so that's the draft.
Speaker 3: That's the draft, all right, so real quickly, let's.
Speaker 2: Recap the draft with this with this kind of like
Speaker 2: picture for it. All right, team needs before the draft, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, quarterback, defensive end, offensive tackle, defensive backs, linebacker,
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Guess what, every single one of those were filled.
Speaker 2: But we had something happen that it doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: happened here in a while. And that's we drafted the
Speaker 2: quote unquote best player available. So what a great job
Speaker 2: of getting best player available while filling team needs simultaneously.
Speaker 2: And something I noticed when I was putting together this list,
Speaker 2: all right, guys like Johnny Newton, Ben Sinat, Brandon Coleman,
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey, these guys are going Jordan McGee. These guys
Speaker 2: are going to play behind some free agents and some
Speaker 2: veterans that were already here that are good, solid pros.
Speaker 2: I mean, so you're filling a team need and you're
Speaker 2: putting them in a position where they don't have to
Speaker 2: be stars right away, outside of maybe Jaden Daniels, but
Speaker 2: they can learn, they can grow, they can figure out
Speaker 2: what it means to be a pro here and get
Speaker 2: coached up. And then like, you got talent right there.
Speaker 3: Behind these guys.
Speaker 1: True, almost for the entire draft class, right, like when
Speaker 1: you look at obviously everybody outside of Jayden and Daniels,
Speaker 1: but Gerson, you know, has Alan and Payne, right, you
Speaker 1: got Mike Sanders. Still, we talked about the defensive back group,
Speaker 1: Benson and he's got zach Ertz, Brandon Coleman.
Speaker 3: I think bringing in Corney's.
Speaker 1: Lucas bringing him back, that's a big deal, right, Luke McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Obviously the receiver room, Jordan McGee, with the linebackers, Warner
Speaker 1: Haven't or not Warner Wagner and yeah, and then Dominie Campton,
Speaker 1: who is like, to me, like a cookie cutter mold
Speaker 1: of Jeremy Chin, Like Jeremy Chin almost won Defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year, like talk about a great model for him.
Speaker 1: And then John Baptiste is the seventh round pick, will
Speaker 1: kind of mix into that defensive line room. But I
Speaker 1: think it's a really smart philosophy to get leaders at
Speaker 1: these positions. And you know, a lot of these older
Speaker 1: veterans are on one year contracts, so you know, let's say,
Speaker 1: for example, Jeremy Chin, well, you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: going to have a great career here and they're going
Speaker 1: to sign him to an extension hopefully, but if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, hypothetically, you've got a guy in Dominie
Speaker 1: Campton who has sat for a year as a special
Speaker 1: teams guy with tremendous athletic upside that has learned in
Speaker 1: the defense and could potentially kind of make an impact.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a really good philosophy. Great job
Speaker 1: by Adam Peters. And again, the other thing I want
Speaker 1: to point out is they're all captains, they're all leaders,
Speaker 1: they all have high floors, they're all self starters, and
Speaker 1: when you're drafting players, that's one thing that I think
Speaker 1: can't be can't be overvalued, is like, do are they
Speaker 1: motivated to get better, and we talked about the improvement
Speaker 1: that they've all shown over the course of their career.
Speaker 1: Kind of the poster chitle that being Jane Daniels, but
Speaker 1: really excited for this draft class.
Speaker 3: Love that it's the vision is clear.
Speaker 1: They've identified pieces, they brought in talent to peeps pieces,
Speaker 1: and I can't.
Speaker 3: Wait to see how they fit in here with the commanders.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Logan Paulsons of the world and
Speaker 2: the London Pitchers, just the hidden gems in there, the
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents. We watched some of these guys in
Speaker 2: film leaning up. Yeah, so yeah, let's we're gonna go
Speaker 2: down the list. I'm going to give like a couple
Speaker 2: of stats about them, just so you understand it yield
Speaker 2: a little bit about them. We don't have to spend
Speaker 2: too much time on everybody here. We will, But who's
Speaker 2: someone that stands out right away that you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is this is a great grab surprise you didn't
Speaker 2: get drafted. Glad he's here.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple guys, but I'm gonna start with
Speaker 1: two guys to start, and so the first guy is
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his name shingozier A Nusium.
Speaker 1: I love it from Colorado State. At the corner he's
Speaker 1: six ' to one. He ran a four three nine
Speaker 1: at his protae is that it's on there four three
Speaker 1: nine yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was eight amongst the corners at the combine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and very explosive, very long arms. Has really solid
Speaker 1: movement skills. Just wonder about his consistent compete, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's playing hard, but like there's
Speaker 1: times where it's like, hey, go get that tackle, go
Speaker 1: fit that run, like you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: in terms of a coverage guy, like talk about an
Speaker 1: incredibly high ceiling, like it's all there for you. Like
Speaker 1: the movement skills, the ball skills. I when I saw
Speaker 1: it when I started watching film with him, because I
Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't on my list before I started, But
Speaker 1: when I started watching film, I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: guy can play some ball. Yeah, and so he probably
Speaker 1: starts as a again, she probably starts as a special
Speaker 1: teams guy.
Speaker 3: Whatever. But in terms of remember we.
Speaker 1: Talked about it with Jean Baptista, guy that could project
Speaker 1: something more like the body is there, Yeah, the athleticism
Speaker 1: is there. The instincts are there, it's just about making
Speaker 1: sure that's all going in the right direction all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six foot one, two hundred pounds, Like you said,
Speaker 2: seven percent body fat, thirty seven point five introvertical, ten
Speaker 2: foot two broad jump. He's explosive, A four three nine
Speaker 2: forty Like you said, I mean that's Fred Smoot wishes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wishes.
Speaker 2: And he was part of the All Mountain West first
Speaker 2: team for PFF grades. Right, So he's a baller, he's
Speaker 2: a player. And speaking of guys who are ballers and players,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the next guy on this list
Speaker 2: is Sam Hart.
Speaker 3: Can I just say my one other guy, My one
Speaker 3: other guy? I want to Yeah, guy, So two guys.
Speaker 1: He's s that's one obviously, and then the next guy
Speaker 1: for me is Noreel Pollard from Virginia Tech. And when
Speaker 1: you watch him, like if you come to practice during
Speaker 1: training camp, he is going to win every single pass
Speaker 1: rush one on one. Yeah, Like, there's no doubt in
Speaker 1: my defensive tackle. Defensive tackle from Virginia Tech. He's undersized,
Speaker 1: he's like I think I saw something that said he
Speaker 1: was six foot six foot like two to eighty. So
Speaker 1: talk about like outlier size. He ran a four to
Speaker 1: seven nine at his pro DA, very explosive. They had
Speaker 1: a thirty five inch vertical jump, but has great feel
Speaker 1: for like turning pads quick, quick, lightning, quick, get off.
Speaker 1: Like you when you think about the Dallas defense of
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like this is the type
Speaker 1: of guy that fits perfectly in there. And he's probably
Speaker 1: just gonna be a situational pass rusher. But when you
Speaker 1: have a guy that can win pass rush reps like this, yeah, consistently,
Speaker 1: it's like keep him in the program. So he might
Speaker 1: just be a practice squad guy, but he's someone that
Speaker 1: if you come to practice, you watch one on one
Speaker 1: and you'll be like, who the heck is that guy?
Speaker 1: Because he's gonna win all of them? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's just the type of guy he is.
Speaker 1: So to two names that kind of just jump out
Speaker 1: to me as like, hey, maybe maybe can make some waves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to go in what you're saying there stats to
Speaker 2: back it up right, all right? So he was he
Speaker 2: had an eighty eight pass rush grade that's accordy and
Speaker 2: pff that's third Yeah, and better than Johnny Newton.
Speaker 1: He's got some he's got, Like we talked about juice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the juice.
Speaker 2: He has a thirty total pressures. That's a sixteen point
Speaker 2: five percent win rate, fourth best in his class. True
Speaker 2: in true pass sets.
Speaker 3: Of everybody, of everybody, Oh my god, of.
Speaker 2: True pass sets. And that means that this is clearly
Speaker 2: a pass right. It's not a RPO. It's not play
Speaker 2: action quarterbacks definitely throwing this ball a ninety point four
Speaker 2: grade and with twenty pressures, that's tied with Byron Murphy.
Speaker 2: The first defensive tackle it went off the board.
Speaker 3: So get this. I watched the Virginia game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had to like scrub it because he's
Speaker 1: not on every play because but there was a sequence
Speaker 1: where it was like ten consecutive pass plays and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh that was a pressure. It was like
Speaker 1: the guy I definitively beat the guard. And I don't
Speaker 1: know who that guard is. He might just be a guy,
Speaker 1: you know, other occupation type guy. But when you can
Speaker 1: rush the passer, yeah, let's see if it works.
Speaker 2: And it's a size that's what That's what had him
Speaker 2: not get drafted. But guess what, he's a team captain. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: fitting that molding it, and I think it's what you're
Speaker 2: talking to. It feels like this is like, well, he's
Speaker 2: an undersized guy, but he wins like this, So maybe
Speaker 2: it's that attitude.
Speaker 3: Yea, Yeah, find a role for him.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the philosophy of Dan in Seattle,
Speaker 1: in Dallas, in Atlanta, he understands probably better than I mean,
Speaker 1: at least better than any of the defense coach dropping
Speaker 1: with the importance of creating pressure to insulate coverage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you do that by finding guys who can rush
Speaker 1: the passer. And so to get this guy's UDFA. And
Speaker 1: again he's undersized, there's lots of issues. He's got thirty
Speaker 1: two inch arms, not great length. But man, if that
Speaker 1: even pops up a little bit and you get and
Speaker 1: you're able to get some pressures out of this guy
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, that's a win, you admit,
Speaker 1: because it's not a big investment. It's a UDIFA. Just
Speaker 1: you made a phone call, Hey, you want to come
Speaker 1: be a commander. He's like yeah, and it's like cool,
Speaker 1: come on up, let's do it. So I think that's
Speaker 1: those are those are two names I think are interesting.
Speaker 2: All right, here goes my segue again, Sam harton the
Speaker 2: qv from Notre Dame. So uh, probably the most handsome
Speaker 2: guy of the draft.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're that's a ten out of ten.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you a quick little story. So
Speaker 2: my wife's best friend went to Notre Dame. Okay, so
Speaker 2: big Notre Dame fan knows who Sam Hartman is. Definitely
Speaker 2: knows who Sam Hartman is. So my wife texts me
Speaker 2: when we the we signed him. Here he goes, can
Speaker 2: I bring my friend to meet Sam Hartman? I went
Speaker 2: absolutely not, No, I will bring your friends to meet
Speaker 2: Sam Hartin. You can stay at.
Speaker 3: Home, they'll tell you. So my wife had similar thing.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about we were at a friend's
Speaker 1: house and they're like, oh, they drafted this quarterback, Sam Hartman.
Speaker 1: My friend is my wife's friend is a huge Commanders
Speaker 1: FANFA and she was like, who's this guy? And I
Speaker 1: was like, he's maybe the most handsome man on her
Speaker 1: because she's like no, and she got her phone out,
Speaker 1: got really quiet and was like, oh my I was like.
Speaker 2: I will be etched in my brain when he ran
Speaker 2: the fourty.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they get slow mo with.
Speaker 2: His hair and glad he's here. The reason I'm glad
Speaker 2: he's here.
Speaker 3: Not because he's hands.
Speaker 2: It's not because he's hands, because he can play football right.
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty four touchdowns, that's first all time
Speaker 2: in the ACC. Fifteen thousand, six hundred and fifty six yards,
Speaker 2: that's second all time for the ACC. One hundred and
Speaker 2: one passing touchdown since twenty and twenty one, that is
Speaker 2: first among all quarterbacks and another team captain. This guy
Speaker 2: just gets it done.
Speaker 3: Ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing, the one thing, not a strong arm, no,
Speaker 2: comparatively at the combine, Joe Milton through the ball. They
Speaker 2: clocked it at seventy two miles an hour, sixty two,
Speaker 2: sixty two was it sixty two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I think he was like fifty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, sixty two and then yeah, McCarthy was
Speaker 2: right there with Milton, and yeah, Sam Hartman was. It
Speaker 2: was a little bit low, but accurate with the ball.
Speaker 3: The ball right, So like plays the position so like.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of conversation about his like
Speaker 1: limited athletic tools, you know, But the thing that comes
Speaker 1: that when you watch this film, like he gets how
Speaker 1: to play quarterback, understands what to.
Speaker 3: Do with his eyes, understand his reads, understands.
Speaker 1: The protections, and you know, Adam Peters has had a
Speaker 1: lot of success with Rock Party. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is Rock Party. I think Rock Party has a little
Speaker 1: bit more athletic juice, a little bit.
Speaker 3: More physical talent.
Speaker 1: But there is value to basically saying, like, you know
Speaker 1: how to play the position the way it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be played. Maybe if things look good through the OTA
Speaker 1: training camp process, you're the third quarterback, you're the practice
Speaker 1: squad guy, something like that. But having someone with that
Speaker 1: level of experience, the level of college production in the
Speaker 1: building is ever a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, Hi IQ GUYI, Hi IQ guy. Hi
Speaker 2: you guys all right, Austin Jones are running back from US.
Speaker 2: Most people know Marshawn Lloyd from US. Yeah, this was
Speaker 2: the other that was there. He had threes out three,
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty eight total yards in his career
Speaker 2: with twenty seven touchdowns. In twenty twenty two. He had
Speaker 2: seven and one one hundred and five rushing yards, nine
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two receiving yards I put, passing yards
Speaker 2: I met receiving yards, and six yards per touch average,
Speaker 2: So pretty productive.
Speaker 3: Pretty productive.
Speaker 1: So Austin, I'm gonna put the two running backs in
Speaker 1: the same category because they are really similar to me.
Speaker 1: So Austin Jones and Michael Wiley from Arizona running back
Speaker 1: from Arizona, and so basically when you watch them as runners,
Speaker 1: they're fine. You know, there's nothing to write home about.
Speaker 1: Where they kind of excel is catching the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're not crazy athletic. They're not you know, running
Speaker 1: four twos or four threes anything like that, but they're
Speaker 1: very efficient catching the ball. So I do think they
Speaker 1: kind of identified a skill set. They said, these guys
Speaker 1: can pass, protect and catch the ball well and Wiley specifically,
Speaker 1: they kind.
Speaker 3: Of lined them up all over the formation.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of his damage, you know, catching
Speaker 1: yards after catch screens, things like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: obviously that running back room is going to be very tight,
Speaker 1: very competitive. You know, McNichols is a very good player.
Speaker 1: They're kind of in that same mold Chris Rodriguez, b
Speaker 1: Rob and obviously Austin Eckler kind of the archetypical third
Speaker 1: down back in the NFL. But they are very much
Speaker 1: third down runners, yeah, because they're not on first, second down,
Speaker 1: they're just they're okay. Like, there's certain guys you watch me,
Speaker 1: Oh look, this guy's got like Marshall Lloyd's a great example.
Speaker 1: He's got some creative ability. He can break tackles, he
Speaker 1: can do all these things. They're not really in that bucket.
Speaker 1: Their value is pass catchers and in pass protection.
Speaker 2: So with Wiley, the running back from Arizona, he had
Speaker 2: forty nine games in his career, twenty eight touchdowns, and
Speaker 2: he scored on every sixteen point three touches. He had
Speaker 2: a nose for the end zone. Another undrafted free agent
Speaker 2: running back that is here that has a nose for
Speaker 2: the end zone is Austin X. Yes, that's right, right,
Speaker 2: So what a great Like we were talking about earlier
Speaker 2: young guys coming in with veterans that Peters and Quinne
Speaker 2: brought in. What a great guy to have leading your
Speaker 2: running back room. Now in Eckler, with these young guys
Speaker 2: coming in undrafted, he's been through it. He knows how
Speaker 2: to get it done. He knows how to go through
Speaker 2: that process of being undrafted running back. And like, there's
Speaker 2: some guys here that have I don't want to say
Speaker 2: they're similar to Austin Eckler, but they have a nose
Speaker 2: for the end zone, right, They find a way to
Speaker 2: make plays to get yards and it's like got something
Speaker 2: here made.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And Austin Eckler was a freak. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Physically you know, he was like a six hundred pounds
Speaker 1: backsquad guy, very fast, very explosive. These guys aren't that
Speaker 1: same athletes, you know, that same physicality, but in terms
Speaker 1: of catching the ball and making a career doing that,
Speaker 1: like talk about a great role model. A guy that
Speaker 1: started his career doing that, I was able to kind
Speaker 1: of develop into something more.
Speaker 2: There's one more running back one here, is there?
Speaker 3: You want to talk about him? Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, so yeah, we can tell. So I've actually going
Speaker 1: to include him in the other group. Okay, so we're
Speaker 1: the next The next we're going to do is we're
Speaker 1: going to do Ben Nickel wide receiver, quarterback slash quarterback
Speaker 1: from Iowa State. We're going to do Tyler oh safety
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. And we're gonna do Coolson Yankov running
Speaker 1: back for UCLA. And the reason we're gonna put those
Speaker 1: guys in all and also we could put the receiver
Speaker 1: from Georgia in here if you want to, but I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be his own thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do him.
Speaker 1: But those three guys to me are really interesting. So
Speaker 1: let's start with Ben Nickel from I always say, basically,
Speaker 1: a non scholarship player does not play any position, defense
Speaker 1: or offense. He is a absolute lunatic. Lunatic on special teams, yes,
Speaker 1: like that is his thing. Like he is a missile
Speaker 1: on covering kicks. He's going to play gunner, He's going
Speaker 1: to play vice, He's going to do all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And so like when I think when I see this guy,
Speaker 1: not the same athlete, but I think of like Matthew
Speaker 1: Slater for New England, like didn't really have a position
Speaker 1: in college. I played with him actually at UCLA, so
Speaker 1: played corner.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you're not going to for corner, played receiver, uh,
Speaker 1: but was an excellent special teams guy. And there is
Speaker 1: value there. You know what I mean is Oo's the
Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator. I think he sees the value
Speaker 1: of a guy who's tough, competitive, made his own way,
Speaker 1: earned a scholarship. We'll figure out what he whether he's
Speaker 1: a receiver or corner at the next level, but teams teams, teams, teams,
Speaker 1: teams all day for him.
Speaker 2: And we know how important teams is here with guys
Speaker 2: like all pro Revo Jeremy comes here. So but yes,
Speaker 2: he was a walk one, earned the scholarship, a co captain.
Speaker 3: Really I didn't know that, yep, and a co captain.
Speaker 2: So like, like you said, a guy that like may
Speaker 2: not be the most athletically traded guy, but just like
Speaker 2: a maniac earns you respect.
Speaker 1: Maniac is a good way to explain it. Like it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he like where he kind
Speaker 1: of fits in. But yeah, an absolute lunatic on teams.
Speaker 1: Next guy Tyler Owens. He is a physical freak. He's
Speaker 1: six two fifteen. He's got thirty three in a quarter,
Speaker 1: like very similar to Dominic Campton. He broke the combine
Speaker 1: record for broad jumps, so maybe the most explosive different
Speaker 1: and than fastest.
Speaker 2: Well foot two broad jump.
Speaker 1: It's maybe the most explosive dude in the history of
Speaker 1: the combine. I think he had forty one inch vertical right.
Speaker 2: That was first among the all safety.
Speaker 1: He is big, he's explosive, like when you see him
Speaker 1: hit people, he injects people from the screen. You see
Speaker 1: the explosive in this show up. The problem with him
Speaker 1: is on defense, not overly instinctive. He transferred from Texas.
Speaker 1: He's transferred from Texas to Texas Tech, never really got
Speaker 1: on the field, but plays special teams like an absolute
Speaker 1: insane person, you know what I'm saying. So like a
Speaker 1: guy that is frustrating because you say to yourself you athletically, physically,
Speaker 1: you are what you draw up to play that star
Speaker 1: safety position near the line of scrimmage. And here's a
Speaker 1: guy that I also think kind of in that Dominie
Speaker 1: Campton role right where it's like you were playing post
Speaker 1: safety in college. That's not your bag. Let's get you
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmagers that you're covering tight ends.
Speaker 1: Let's get you in man coverage. But in terms of
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to have an impact right now,
Speaker 1: like it'll be on teams, like absolutely lighting people up,
Speaker 1: being the first one down on kicks. Like they definitely
Speaker 1: made it a point of emphasis to say you're a
Speaker 1: freak athlete. We'll figure out we're going to do with you. Again,
Speaker 1: I hope that they're able to kind of say, hey,
Speaker 1: you're at a position here, let's move you towards at
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. But the reason they're all these guys
Speaker 1: are clustered together, including Coolston Yankov running back from UCLA
Speaker 1: Teams guys teams, teams, teams, teams, teams. Yankov played quarterback
Speaker 1: at udub transfer to UCLA. They moved into a running back,
Speaker 1: they moved to a receiver. He played a little bit
Speaker 1: of linebacker. He's just an athlete that hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to find like a true identity yet.
Speaker 3: But I think he led the.
Speaker 1: Team in special teams tackles like led So every game
Speaker 1: he was getting three to four special teams tackles. So
Speaker 1: dude is an absolute maniac. And also I think you
Speaker 1: have this on here. Return kicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, return kicks.
Speaker 3: So that's why those guys are all kind of closer together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he had sixteen kick returns for three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty four yards, which is pretty darn good. And
Speaker 2: he was fifth in the Pac twelve and return yards,
Speaker 2: but he received less opportunities and the guys ahead of him,
Speaker 2: so very productive as far as kick.
Speaker 1: And also big guy. He's six ' four six four
Speaker 1: and a half to twenty five two thirty. I think
Speaker 1: he ran like a sub four or five at his PROTA.
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to confirm that because the PRODA
Speaker 1: numbers aren't coming out. But talk about big, explosive guy
Speaker 1: that made his value on teams, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like we'll figure out what role to be. So those
Speaker 1: three guys, Ben Nickel, Tyler Owens circle that name too.
Speaker 3: Man just that athletic profile and that size is so unique,
Speaker 3: is so unique.
Speaker 1: That like, as long as he's not totally an apt
Speaker 1: to playing safety, they'll find a way to keep him around.
Speaker 1: And then Colson niekov special teams ace with again the
Speaker 1: guy that kind of fits this.
Speaker 3: Positionless football, Kyle Yuschek. Where do we find value for
Speaker 3: you on the field.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about AJ Woods, a cornerback from pitt He
Speaker 2: went to u A High school in Germantown, Maryland, the
Speaker 2: same high school he went to. Yeah local kid, so
Speaker 2: hoping the best for him. In his career, he had
Speaker 2: one hundred and five tackles, two sacks, four interceptions, twenty
Speaker 2: nine pass defense and one for sun. What do you
Speaker 2: know about A J.
Speaker 3: Woods? I don't really know that much about him. I
Speaker 3: was able to find any film on him.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, when you're kind of scouring the internet,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the hard thing about some of
Speaker 1: these guys. So I put him aj Woods with our
Speaker 1: tackle buddy, David. I want to give that a shot.
Speaker 1: David will Goog from Toledo obviously with google's a former
Speaker 1: basketball player. Share expecting high end upside, but he's transferred
Speaker 1: schools multiple times. He's six ' five three ten three
Speaker 1: three oh five, so it's like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know how he moves. I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 1: Those guys are the same bucket for me, not because
Speaker 1: I think they're bad players. I just wasn't able to
Speaker 1: find anything film related on either one of them.
Speaker 2: I mean, how good are NFL scouts that they're finding
Speaker 2: these guys who could be diamonds in the rough. I mean,
Speaker 2: for with Goog, you started all fourteen games last year
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three for Toledo on the line. That
Speaker 2: line ranked fourth in the nation in sacks allowed only
Speaker 2: zero point seventy nine sacks per game. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That offense in the MAC was first in scoring, total offense,
Speaker 2: and pass efficiency, and they were eighth in the nation
Speaker 2: in rushing rushing offense. So he was a part of
Speaker 2: a good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, and the athletic the basketball background with
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I'm always really intrigued by that because you're
Speaker 1: looking for big, lean athletes and he's a big lean athlete.
Speaker 1: Just depends on, you know, how he's able to develop. Again,
Speaker 1: the transfer things is a little bit interesting, but yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, scouts get paid and they get paid a
Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot more than we do. So
Speaker 1: hopefully they found the right guy and that leaves one
Speaker 1: more person on our list, right, Yes, and this is
Speaker 1: maybe my I had actually had a really high grade
Speaker 1: on him coming out this So what's his name? Marcus
Speaker 1: rosemy Jack saint YEP wide receiver from Georgia.
Speaker 3: I think he's six to two. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: I can look it up.
Speaker 3: Took it up. I think he's six to two, about
Speaker 3: two ten.
Speaker 1: And I loved his film, Like I'm always looking for
Speaker 1: guys that I think embody kind of the dirty work
Speaker 1: traits of a position, and he's a guy that definitely
Speaker 1: did that for me. He's rolling the block, willing to
Speaker 1: make tough contested catches. Not kind of the guy at Georgia.
Speaker 1: Obviously that's Lad mccognity, but he was a guy that
Speaker 1: definitely I just I really enjoyed watching his film.
Speaker 3: I think he had a medical issue.
Speaker 1: I think had an acl that they were people are
Speaker 1: a knee issue that people were concerned about, which is
Speaker 1: maybe why goes undrafted. But I love the player, love
Speaker 1: the way he approaches the game, loved the like the
Speaker 1: yards after catchability, blocking on screens like probably again has
Speaker 1: special teams value, but I really enjoyed he was one
Speaker 1: of my one of my kind of dark horse receiver
Speaker 1: guys that it just like I just liked him, and
Speaker 1: so I'm really happy to see him here.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's six two one ninety five. So here's something
Speaker 2: that's I think pretty good about him. Yeah, for a
Speaker 2: wide receiver. You want to see this. He's had zero
Speaker 2: drop the passes since twenty twenty two. That's with eighty
Speaker 2: eight targets. Yeah, zero drop passes in his whole career.
Speaker 2: Only two drop passes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude catches ball, Yeah catch.
Speaker 2: You love to see that from a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Shows up on tape. He does the receiver stuff well,
Speaker 1: runs good routes, physical blocking, makes tough catches. I thought
Speaker 1: he did find at the Senior Bowl, like he wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, the best wasn't the worst, kind of right
Speaker 1: in the middle there, and that's what you expect from him.
Speaker 1: A guy that's going to have a nice role on
Speaker 1: the team. But I love the way he approaches it.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if his medical was better, like if
Speaker 1: he's if he's drafted to a different team.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can really see with this process how
Speaker 2: Peters and Quinn and the whole staff here are putting
Speaker 2: the pieces of the puzzle together, from free agency bringing
Speaker 2: in the veterans that they did at the positions that
Speaker 2: they did, to the draft to the undrafted free agents.
Speaker 2: There's going to be more free agency signings that come along.
Speaker 2: I'm sure like you can start to see this team
Speaker 2: get built and in the image that they said that
Speaker 2: they were going to do it absolutely what you have
Speaker 2: here with them is all these guys are guys that
Speaker 2: love football. They either have athletic traits or just the
Speaker 2: design correct to be better all the time always, and
Speaker 2: in many cases both of those things. And like there
Speaker 2: is clearly a culture with what they're building here and
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this plays out on the field.
Speaker 2: This draft strategy that we haven't seen in Washington in
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's extremely exciting and it's you
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head there. It's the type
Speaker 1: of guy they're bringing in, and I think that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging. They're all kind of wired the same way.
Speaker 1: So even though I haven't seen, you know, some of
Speaker 1: these undrafted for agent guys, I know that they're going
Speaker 1: to be kind of cut from the same cloth, of
Speaker 1: the same mold, because that's kind of what they've prioritized
Speaker 1: throughout the process, which is always really exciting. But I
Speaker 1: think that's going to do it for today's show, for
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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for today, and I think
Speaker 1: that's it.