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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft podcast, presented by Seekik,

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Speaker 1: the official primary ticketing partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm

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Speaker 1: Logan Paulson here with Jess the Guy, Jason and Jason.

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Speaker 1: We are doing a draft recap coupled with some free

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Speaker 1: agency stuff, right, is that we're doing it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the undrafted free agents, the rookies that weren't drafted

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Speaker 2: but came in much like your path.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right exactly. Yeah, So really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: talking about some of those guys because I have a

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Speaker 1: obviously a special place in my heart for those types

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Speaker 1: of guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I do know you made a pretty

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Speaker 2: pretty darn good career even though you weren't drafted, and

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Speaker 2: so did like London Fletcher, like, there are ballplayers that

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Speaker 2: come out of the UDFA, So it's worth talking about

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Speaker 2: some of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So first off, we got an announcement though

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about so obviously this show is

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Speaker 1: called Ticket of the Draft. Yeah, and the Draft is over,

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Speaker 1: but we feel like we can still do shows kind

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Speaker 1: of recapping how the rookie, our rookie draft class is doing,

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Speaker 1: rookie class as a whole is doing how our evaluations

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Speaker 1: are holding up. But we feel like we don't need

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Speaker 1: to do that every single week, so we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: once a month basically, right, Is that kind of the

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Speaker 1: gist of it.

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Speaker 2: Overall, Like the response from our fans over this podcast

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Speaker 2: has been tremendous, So we don't want to just leave

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Speaker 2: you guys right where our last episode was instant reactions

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Speaker 2: after the second and third round, we thought that was

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Speaker 2: the end, so it was a little sad, but then

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Speaker 2: we looked at the numbers and we're like, man, we

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Speaker 2: can do something here, like you were saying. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the rest of the draft,

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Speaker 2: the udfas and maybe I'm going to say once a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give or take.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we're going to look in on how the

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Speaker 2: rookies were doing here. The draft is over, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's worth keeping up with them. Let's see how

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Speaker 2: they panned out, like all this hype about them, all

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Speaker 2: these like all the analysis we did, all the hours

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Speaker 2: we spend in film, like, let's see how it pans out. Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk you through it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like one of the things I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate, I always I find very frustrating about draft

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Speaker 1: analysis in general is they give you your grade, it's

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Speaker 1: the day after the draft, but then what does that

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Speaker 1: look like a month, two months, six months from now

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Speaker 1: when they're playing football games. We can maybe revisit some

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Speaker 1: of these picks obviously internally, but some of the guys

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Speaker 1: we liked maybe that are on different teams to kind

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Speaker 1: of talk through, you know, maybe why they hit, why

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Speaker 1: they didn't hit, and kind of take you on our

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of that'll be that'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it doesn't just end with the draft as

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Speaker 2: far as like scouting goes.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So if I'm going to do this again next year,

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Speaker 2: which I would like to do as far as like

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Speaker 2: from this. So how do I learn? Well, I need

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Speaker 2: to see what the result is, right, So I need

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Speaker 2: to like take a microscope to migrating process my scouting process,

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Speaker 2: or how did it pan out? Where did I get

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Speaker 2: it wrong? How can I refine so that if ticket

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Speaker 2: to the draft twenty twenty or five homes up, we're

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Speaker 3: Polished, Yeah, a little bit more refined up. But in

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Speaker 3: the meantime, let's review our draft.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, like we're gonna go quickly through kind of the

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Speaker 1: We did a first day recap, second day recap, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys we've already talked about, but

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Speaker 1: just kind of as refreshers. Obviously, Jade and Daniels were

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Speaker 3: There, good football player. We're both excited about him.

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Speaker 1: Guy that I'm probably most excited about of these top

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a baller, and I want to see how

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Speaker 2: Emmanuel Forbes responds all this too, Not that it's like

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Speaker 1: is just how the coaching is going to affect that group.

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Speaker 2: when his measurements came in. And I think the PFF

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Speaker 2: one three hundred and seven pass blocking snaps in his

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Speaker 1: because I think Cornelia Szucas can hold down the fort

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Speaker 1: Let's say Cornelias Lucas comes out and plays excellent in

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Speaker 1: It's funny like Mike Sanders still Brandon Coleman and Luke

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Speaker 1: think you were telling me this. He had two touchdowns

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Speaker 1: He plays hard, but he just looks a little unsure

433
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Speaker 1: certain about what his plan is on a down to

434
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Speaker 1: down basis.

435
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 2: Right, So do coaches look at that and go weaken?

436
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so.

437
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: And again, like in terms of guys that I again like,

438
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 1: I think it was like a as Dan guys. Obviously,

439
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: the least three guys to me are like Dan guys,

440
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,239
Speaker 1: Jordan McGee, Dominic Campton, John Baptist, Because Jean Baptiste, if

441
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 1: you get him with a good D line coach and

442
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: you say, hey, man, do like these four things really well?

443
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 1: As a pass rusher, he could become a guy that

444
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 1: makes the roster and his productive. You know, he's a

445
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. I'm not saying he's going to change

446
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: the world here, but I think he's a guy that

447
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,679
Speaker 1: could be very impactful in that regard. And I like

448
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: the selection because I always get mad when in the

449
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: seventh round you take a guy that has no opportunity

450
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,120
Speaker 1: to ever play football for your team. You're like, oh,

451
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: his ceiling is a special teams guy, or his ceiling

452
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 1: is the third linebacker on goal line it's like I

453
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: get it, but like, let's take someone that is going

454
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 1: to be a good football player, like kind of at

455
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 1: a base you mentioned the run defense grade. That's always

456
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: a great metric for like just solid production at the

457
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: NFL level, Like if you can stop the run, you

458
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: can play footba.

459
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Speaker 3: At the NFL level.

460
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe he could be something more with that

461
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: athletic frame, that kind of wiry length and the speed

462
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: that he's shown.

463
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: So all right, so that's the draft.

464
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Speaker 3: That's the draft, all right, so real quickly, let's.

465
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Speaker 2: Recap the draft with this with this kind of like

466
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Speaker 2: picture for it. All right, team needs before the draft, Yeah,

467
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 2: all right, quarterback, defensive end, offensive tackle, defensive backs, linebacker,

468
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Guess what, every single one of those were filled.

469
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: But we had something happen that it doesn't feel like

470
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: happened here in a while. And that's we drafted the

471
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 2: quote unquote best player available. So what a great job

472
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: of getting best player available while filling team needs simultaneously.

473
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: And something I noticed when I was putting together this list,

474
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: all right, guys like Johnny Newton, Ben Sinat, Brandon Coleman,

475
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey, these guys are going Jordan McGee. These guys

476
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: are going to play behind some free agents and some

477
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: veterans that were already here that are good, solid pros.

478
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean, so you're filling a team need and you're

479
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: putting them in a position where they don't have to

480
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 2: be stars right away, outside of maybe Jaden Daniels, but

481
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: they can learn, they can grow, they can figure out

482
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: what it means to be a pro here and get

483
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: coached up. And then like, you got talent right there.

484
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: Behind these guys.

485
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: True, almost for the entire draft class, right, like when

486
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: you look at obviously everybody outside of Jayden and Daniels,

487
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: but Gerson, you know, has Alan and Payne, right, you

488
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: got Mike Sanders. Still, we talked about the defensive back group,

489
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: Benson and he's got zach Ertz, Brandon Coleman.

490
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: I think bringing in Corney's.

491
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: Lucas bringing him back, that's a big deal, right, Luke McCaffrey.

492
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Obviously the receiver room, Jordan McGee, with the linebackers, Warner

493
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: Haven't or not Warner Wagner and yeah, and then Dominie Campton,

494
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: who is like, to me, like a cookie cutter mold

495
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: of Jeremy Chin, Like Jeremy Chin almost won Defensive Rookie

496
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: of the Year, like talk about a great model for him.

497
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: And then John Baptiste is the seventh round pick, will

498
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: kind of mix into that defensive line room. But I

499
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: think it's a really smart philosophy to get leaders at

500
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: these positions. And you know, a lot of these older

501
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: veterans are on one year contracts, so you know, let's say,

502
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: for example, Jeremy Chin, well, you know, I think he's

503
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: going to have a great career here and they're going

504
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: to sign him to an extension hopefully, but if it

505
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, hypothetically, you've got a guy in Dominie

506
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Campton who has sat for a year as a special

507
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: teams guy with tremendous athletic upside that has learned in

508
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: the defense and could potentially kind of make an impact.

509
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's a really good philosophy. Great job

510
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: by Adam Peters. And again, the other thing I want

511
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: to point out is they're all captains, they're all leaders,

512
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: they all have high floors, they're all self starters, and

513
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: when you're drafting players, that's one thing that I think

514
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: can't be can't be overvalued, is like, do are they

515
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: motivated to get better, and we talked about the improvement

516
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: that they've all shown over the course of their career.

517
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: Kind of the poster chitle that being Jane Daniels, but

518
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: really excited for this draft class.

519
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: Love that it's the vision is clear.

520
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: They've identified pieces, they brought in talent to peeps pieces,

521
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: and I can't.

522
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: Wait to see how they fit in here with the commanders.

523
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Logan Paulsons of the world and

524
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: the London Pitchers, just the hidden gems in there, the

525
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents. We watched some of these guys in

526
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: film leaning up. Yeah, so yeah, let's we're gonna go

527
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: down the list. I'm going to give like a couple

528
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: of stats about them, just so you understand it yield

529
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: a little bit about them. We don't have to spend

530
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: too much time on everybody here. We will, But who's

531
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: someone that stands out right away that you're like, oh,

532
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: this is this is a great grab surprise you didn't

533
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: get drafted. Glad he's here.

534
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple guys, but I'm gonna start with

535
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: two guys to start, and so the first guy is

536
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his name shingozier A Nusium.

537
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: I love it from Colorado State. At the corner he's

538
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: six ' to one. He ran a four three nine

539
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: at his protae is that it's on there four three

540
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: nine yep.

541
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was eight amongst the corners at the combine.

542
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and very explosive, very long arms. Has really solid

543
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: movement skills. Just wonder about his consistent compete, you know

544
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's playing hard, but like there's

545
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: times where it's like, hey, go get that tackle, go

546
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: fit that run, like you know what I'm saying. But

547
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: in terms of a coverage guy, like talk about an

548
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: incredibly high ceiling, like it's all there for you. Like

549
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: the movement skills, the ball skills. I when I saw

550
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: it when I started watching film with him, because I

551
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't on my list before I started, But

552
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: when I started watching film, I was like, Oh, this

553
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: guy can play some ball. Yeah, and so he probably

554
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: starts as a again, she probably starts as a special

555
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: teams guy.

556
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: Whatever. But in terms of remember we.

557
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: Talked about it with Jean Baptista, guy that could project

558
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: something more like the body is there, Yeah, the athleticism

559
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: is there. The instincts are there, it's just about making

560
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: sure that's all going in the right direction all the time.

561
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, six foot one, two hundred pounds, Like you said,

562
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: seven percent body fat, thirty seven point five introvertical, ten

563
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: foot two broad jump. He's explosive, A four three nine

564
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: forty Like you said, I mean that's Fred Smoot wishes.

565
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wishes.

566
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: And he was part of the All Mountain West first

567
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: team for PFF grades. Right, So he's a baller, he's

568
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: a player. And speaking of guys who are ballers and players,

569
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the next guy on this list

570
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: is Sam Hart.

571
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: Can I just say my one other guy, My one

572
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: other guy? I want to Yeah, guy, So two guys.

573
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: He's s that's one obviously, and then the next guy

574
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: for me is Noreel Pollard from Virginia Tech. And when

575
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: you watch him, like if you come to practice during

576
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: training camp, he is going to win every single pass

577
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: rush one on one. Yeah, Like, there's no doubt in

578
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: my defensive tackle. Defensive tackle from Virginia Tech. He's undersized,

579
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: he's like I think I saw something that said he

580
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: was six foot six foot like two to eighty. So

581
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: talk about like outlier size. He ran a four to

582
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: seven nine at his pro DA, very explosive. They had

583
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: a thirty five inch vertical jump, but has great feel

584
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: for like turning pads quick, quick, lightning, quick, get off.

585
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: Like you when you think about the Dallas defense of

586
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like this is the type

587
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: of guy that fits perfectly in there. And he's probably

588
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: just gonna be a situational pass rusher. But when you

589
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: have a guy that can win pass rush reps like this, yeah, consistently,

590
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: it's like keep him in the program. So he might

591
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: just be a practice squad guy, but he's someone that

592
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: if you come to practice, you watch one on one

593
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: and you'll be like, who the heck is that guy?

594
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: Because he's gonna win all of them? You know what

595
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's just the type of guy he is.

596
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: So to two names that kind of just jump out

597
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: to me as like, hey, maybe maybe can make some waves.

598
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, to go in what you're saying there stats to

599
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: back it up right, all right? So he was he

600
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: had an eighty eight pass rush grade that's accordy and

601
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: pff that's third Yeah, and better than Johnny Newton.

602
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: He's got some he's got, Like we talked about juice. Yeah,

603
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: he's got the juice.

604
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: He has a thirty total pressures. That's a sixteen point

605
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: five percent win rate, fourth best in his class. True

606
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: in true pass sets.

607
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: Of everybody, of everybody, Oh my god, of.

608
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: True pass sets. And that means that this is clearly

609
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: a pass right. It's not a RPO. It's not play

610
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: action quarterbacks definitely throwing this ball a ninety point four

611
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: grade and with twenty pressures, that's tied with Byron Murphy.

612
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: The first defensive tackle it went off the board.

613
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: So get this. I watched the Virginia game.

614
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had to like scrub it because he's

615
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: not on every play because but there was a sequence

616
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: where it was like ten consecutive pass plays and he

617
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh that was a pressure. It was like

618
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: the guy I definitively beat the guard. And I don't

619
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: know who that guard is. He might just be a guy,

620
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: you know, other occupation type guy. But when you can

621
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: rush the passer, yeah, let's see if it works.

622
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: And it's a size that's what That's what had him

623
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: not get drafted. But guess what, he's a team captain. Yeah, right,

624
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: fitting that molding it, and I think it's what you're

625
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: talking to. It feels like this is like, well, he's

626
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: an undersized guy, but he wins like this, So maybe

627
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: it's that attitude.

628
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: Yea, Yeah, find a role for him.

629
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: And when you look at the philosophy of Dan in Seattle,

630
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: in Dallas, in Atlanta, he understands probably better than I mean,

631
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: at least better than any of the defense coach dropping

632
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: with the importance of creating pressure to insulate coverage. Yeah,

633
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: and you do that by finding guys who can rush

634
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the passer. And so to get this guy's UDFA. And

635
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: again he's undersized, there's lots of issues. He's got thirty

636
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: two inch arms, not great length. But man, if that

637
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: even pops up a little bit and you get and

638
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: you're able to get some pressures out of this guy

639
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, that's a win, you admit,

640
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: because it's not a big investment. It's a UDIFA. Just

641
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: you made a phone call, Hey, you want to come

642
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: be a commander. He's like yeah, and it's like cool,

643
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: come on up, let's do it. So I think that's

644
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: those are those are two names I think are interesting.

645
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: All right, here goes my segue again, Sam harton the

646
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: qv from Notre Dame. So uh, probably the most handsome

647
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: guy of the draft.

648
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're that's a ten out of ten.

649
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you a quick little story. So

650
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: my wife's best friend went to Notre Dame. Okay, so

651
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: big Notre Dame fan knows who Sam Hartman is. Definitely

652
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: knows who Sam Hartman is. So my wife texts me

653
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: when we the we signed him. Here he goes, can

654
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: I bring my friend to meet Sam Hartman? I went

655
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: absolutely not, No, I will bring your friends to meet

656
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: Sam Hartin. You can stay at.

657
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 3: Home, they'll tell you. So my wife had similar thing.

658
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: So we were talking about we were at a friend's

659
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: house and they're like, oh, they drafted this quarterback, Sam Hartman.

660
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: My friend is my wife's friend is a huge Commanders

661
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: FANFA and she was like, who's this guy? And I

662
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: was like, he's maybe the most handsome man on her

663
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: because she's like no, and she got her phone out,

664
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: got really quiet and was like, oh my I was like.

665
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: I will be etched in my brain when he ran

666
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: the fourty.

667
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they get slow mo with.

668
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: His hair and glad he's here. The reason I'm glad

669
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: he's here.

670
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: Not because he's hands.

671
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: It's not because he's hands, because he can play football right.

672
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty four touchdowns, that's first all time

673
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: in the ACC. Fifteen thousand, six hundred and fifty six yards,

674
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: that's second all time for the ACC. One hundred and

675
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: one passing touchdown since twenty and twenty one, that is

676
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: first among all quarterbacks and another team captain. This guy

677
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: just gets it done.

678
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Ball.

679
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing, the one thing, not a strong arm, no,

680
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: comparatively at the combine, Joe Milton through the ball. They

681
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: clocked it at seventy two miles an hour, sixty two,

682
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: sixty two was it sixty two?

683
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I think he was like fifty four.

684
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, sixty two and then yeah, McCarthy was

685
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: right there with Milton, and yeah, Sam Hartman was. It

686
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: was a little bit low, but accurate with the ball.

687
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: The ball right, So like plays the position so like.

688
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of conversation about his like

689
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: limited athletic tools, you know, But the thing that comes

690
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: that when you watch this film, like he gets how

691
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: to play quarterback, understands what to.

692
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: Do with his eyes, understand his reads, understands.

693
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: The protections, and you know, Adam Peters has had a

694
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of success with Rock Party. I'm not saying this

695
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: is Rock Party. I think Rock Party has a little

696
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: bit more athletic juice, a little bit.

697
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: More physical talent.

698
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: But there is value to basically saying, like, you know

699
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: how to play the position the way it's supposed to

700
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: be played. Maybe if things look good through the OTA

701
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: training camp process, you're the third quarterback, you're the practice

702
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: squad guy, something like that. But having someone with that

703
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: level of experience, the level of college production in the

704
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: building is ever a bad thing.

705
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, Hi IQ GUYI, Hi IQ guy. Hi

706
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: you guys all right, Austin Jones are running back from US.

707
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Most people know Marshawn Lloyd from US. Yeah, this was

708
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: the other that was there. He had threes out three,

709
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty eight total yards in his career

710
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: with twenty seven touchdowns. In twenty twenty two. He had

711
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: seven and one one hundred and five rushing yards, nine

712
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two receiving yards I put, passing yards

713
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: I met receiving yards, and six yards per touch average,

714
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: So pretty productive.

715
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: Pretty productive.

716
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: So Austin, I'm gonna put the two running backs in

717
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: the same category because they are really similar to me.

718
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: So Austin Jones and Michael Wiley from Arizona running back

719
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: from Arizona, and so basically when you watch them as runners,

720
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: they're fine. You know, there's nothing to write home about.

721
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: Where they kind of excel is catching the football. Yeah,

722
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and they're not crazy athletic. They're not you know, running

723
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: four twos or four threes anything like that, but they're

724
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: very efficient catching the ball. So I do think they

725
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of identified a skill set. They said, these guys

726
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: can pass, protect and catch the ball well and Wiley specifically,

727
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: they kind.

728
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: Of lined them up all over the formation.

729
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: He did a lot of his damage, you know, catching

730
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: yards after catch screens, things like that. So you know,

731
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: obviously that running back room is going to be very tight,

732
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: very competitive. You know, McNichols is a very good player.

733
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: They're kind of in that same mold Chris Rodriguez, b

734
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: Rob and obviously Austin Eckler kind of the archetypical third

735
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: down back in the NFL. But they are very much

736
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: third down runners, yeah, because they're not on first, second down,

737
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: they're just they're okay. Like, there's certain guys you watch me,

738
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh look, this guy's got like Marshall Lloyd's a great example.

739
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: He's got some creative ability. He can break tackles, he

740
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: can do all these things. They're not really in that bucket.

741
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Their value is pass catchers and in pass protection.

742
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: So with Wiley, the running back from Arizona, he had

743
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: forty nine games in his career, twenty eight touchdowns, and

744
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: he scored on every sixteen point three touches. He had

745
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: a nose for the end zone. Another undrafted free agent

746
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: running back that is here that has a nose for

747
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: the end zone is Austin X. Yes, that's right, right,

748
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: So what a great Like we were talking about earlier

749
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: young guys coming in with veterans that Peters and Quinne

750
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: brought in. What a great guy to have leading your

751
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: running back room. Now in Eckler, with these young guys

752
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: coming in undrafted, he's been through it. He knows how

753
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 2: to get it done. He knows how to go through

754
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: that process of being undrafted running back. And like, there's

755
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: some guys here that have I don't want to say

756
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: they're similar to Austin Eckler, but they have a nose

757
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: for the end zone, right, They find a way to

758
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: make plays to get yards and it's like got something

759
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: here made.

760
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

761
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: And Austin Eckler was a freak. Yeah.

762
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Physically you know, he was like a six hundred pounds

763
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: backsquad guy, very fast, very explosive. These guys aren't that

764
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: same athletes, you know, that same physicality, but in terms

765
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: of catching the ball and making a career doing that,

766
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: like talk about a great role model. A guy that

767
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: started his career doing that, I was able to kind

768
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: of develop into something more.

769
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: There's one more running back one here, is there?

770
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: You want to talk about him? Oh?

771
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Well, so yeah, we can tell. So I've actually going

772
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: to include him in the other group. Okay, so we're

773
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: the next The next we're going to do is we're

774
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: going to do Ben Nickel wide receiver, quarterback slash quarterback

775
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: from Iowa State. We're going to do Tyler oh safety

776
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. And we're gonna do Coolson Yankov running

777
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: back for UCLA. And the reason we're gonna put those

778
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: guys in all and also we could put the receiver

779
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: from Georgia in here if you want to, but I

780
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: think he's going to be his own thing.

781
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do him.

782
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: But those three guys to me are really interesting. So

783
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: let's start with Ben Nickel from I always say, basically,

784
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: a non scholarship player does not play any position, defense

785
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: or offense. He is a absolute lunatic. Lunatic on special teams, yes,

786
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: like that is his thing. Like he is a missile

787
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: on covering kicks. He's going to play gunner, He's going

788
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: to play vice, He's going to do all of that stuff.

789
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: And so like when I think when I see this guy,

790
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: not the same athlete, but I think of like Matthew

791
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Slater for New England, like didn't really have a position

792
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: in college. I played with him actually at UCLA, so

793
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: played corner.

794
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: A little bit.

795
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you're not going to for corner, played receiver, uh,

796
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: but was an excellent special teams guy. And there is

797
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: value there. You know what I mean is Oo's the

798
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator. I think he sees the value

799
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: of a guy who's tough, competitive, made his own way,

800
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: earned a scholarship. We'll figure out what he whether he's

801
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: a receiver or corner at the next level, but teams teams, teams, teams,

802
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: teams all day for him.

803
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 2: And we know how important teams is here with guys

804
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: like all pro Revo Jeremy comes here. So but yes,

805
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: he was a walk one, earned the scholarship, a co captain.

806
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Really I didn't know that, yep, and a co captain.

807
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: So like, like you said, a guy that like may

808
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: not be the most athletically traded guy, but just like

809
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: a maniac earns you respect.

810
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Maniac is a good way to explain it. Like it'll

811
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he like where he kind

812
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: of fits in. But yeah, an absolute lunatic on teams.

813
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: Next guy Tyler Owens. He is a physical freak. He's

814
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: six two fifteen. He's got thirty three in a quarter,

815
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: like very similar to Dominic Campton. He broke the combine

816
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: record for broad jumps, so maybe the most explosive different

817
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: and than fastest.

818
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: Well foot two broad jump.

819
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: It's maybe the most explosive dude in the history of

820
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: the combine. I think he had forty one inch vertical right.

821
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: That was first among the all safety.

822
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: He is big, he's explosive, like when you see him

823
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: hit people, he injects people from the screen. You see

824
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: the explosive in this show up. The problem with him

825
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: is on defense, not overly instinctive. He transferred from Texas.

826
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: He's transferred from Texas to Texas Tech, never really got

827
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: on the field, but plays special teams like an absolute

828
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: insane person, you know what I'm saying. So like a

829
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: guy that is frustrating because you say to yourself you athletically, physically,

830
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: you are what you draw up to play that star

831
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: safety position near the line of scrimmage. And here's a

832
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: guy that I also think kind of in that Dominie

833
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: Campton role right where it's like you were playing post

834
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: safety in college. That's not your bag. Let's get you

835
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmagers that you're covering tight ends.

836
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Let's get you in man coverage. But in terms of

837
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to have an impact right now,

838
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: like it'll be on teams, like absolutely lighting people up,

839
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: being the first one down on kicks. Like they definitely

840
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: made it a point of emphasis to say you're a

841
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: freak athlete. We'll figure out we're going to do with you. Again,

842
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: I hope that they're able to kind of say, hey,

843
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: you're at a position here, let's move you towards at

844
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. But the reason they're all these guys

845
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: are clustered together, including Coolston Yankov running back from UCLA

846
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Teams guys teams, teams, teams, teams, teams. Yankov played quarterback

847
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: at udub transfer to UCLA. They moved into a running back,

848
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: they moved to a receiver. He played a little bit

849
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: of linebacker. He's just an athlete that hasn't been able

850
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: to find like a true identity yet.

851
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: But I think he led the.

852
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Team in special teams tackles like led So every game

853
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: he was getting three to four special teams tackles. So

854
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: dude is an absolute maniac. And also I think you

855
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: have this on here. Return kicks.

856
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, return kicks.

857
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: So that's why those guys are all kind of closer together.

858
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he had sixteen kick returns for three hundred

859
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: and thirty four yards, which is pretty darn good. And

860
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: he was fifth in the Pac twelve and return yards,

861
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: but he received less opportunities and the guys ahead of him,

862
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: so very productive as far as kick.

863
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: And also big guy. He's six ' four six four

864
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: and a half to twenty five two thirty. I think

865
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: he ran like a sub four or five at his PROTA.

866
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to confirm that because the PRODA

867
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: numbers aren't coming out. But talk about big, explosive guy

868
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: that made his value on teams, and it's kind of

869
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: like we'll figure out what role to be. So those

870
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: three guys, Ben Nickel, Tyler Owens circle that name too.

871
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: Man just that athletic profile and that size is so unique,

872
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: is so unique.

873
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: That like, as long as he's not totally an apt

874
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: to playing safety, they'll find a way to keep him around.

875
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: And then Colson niekov special teams ace with again the

876
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: guy that kind of fits this.

877
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: Positionless football, Kyle Yuschek. Where do we find value for

878
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: you on the field.

879
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk about AJ Woods, a cornerback from pitt He

880
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: went to u A High school in Germantown, Maryland, the

881
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: same high school he went to. Yeah local kid, so

882
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: hoping the best for him. In his career, he had

883
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: one hundred and five tackles, two sacks, four interceptions, twenty

884
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: nine pass defense and one for sun. What do you

885
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: know about A J.

886
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Woods? I don't really know that much about him. I

887
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: was able to find any film on him.

888
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, when you're kind of scouring the internet,

889
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and I think that's the hard thing about some of

890
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: these guys. So I put him aj Woods with our

891
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: tackle buddy, David. I want to give that a shot.

892
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: David will Goog from Toledo obviously with google's a former

893
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: basketball player. Share expecting high end upside, but he's transferred

894
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: schools multiple times. He's six ' five three ten three

895
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: three oh five, so it's like, I.

896
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: Don't know how he moves. I don't know anything about him.

897
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Those guys are the same bucket for me, not because

898
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: I think they're bad players. I just wasn't able to

899
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: find anything film related on either one of them.

900
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: I mean, how good are NFL scouts that they're finding

901
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: these guys who could be diamonds in the rough. I mean,

902
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: for with Goog, you started all fourteen games last year

903
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three for Toledo on the line. That

904
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: line ranked fourth in the nation in sacks allowed only

905
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: zero point seventy nine sacks per game. That's pretty good.

906
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: That offense in the MAC was first in scoring, total offense,

907
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: and pass efficiency, and they were eighth in the nation

908
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: in rushing rushing offense. So he was a part of

909
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: a good offensive line.

910
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, and the athletic the basketball background with

911
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I'm always really intrigued by that because you're

912
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: looking for big, lean athletes and he's a big lean athlete.

913
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: Just depends on, you know, how he's able to develop. Again,

914
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: the transfer things is a little bit interesting, but yeah, uh,

915
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, scouts get paid and they get paid a

916
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot more than we do. So

917
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: hopefully they found the right guy and that leaves one

918
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: more person on our list, right, Yes, and this is

919
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: maybe my I had actually had a really high grade

920
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: on him coming out this So what's his name? Marcus

921
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: rosemy Jack saint YEP wide receiver from Georgia.

922
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: I think he's six to two. Is that correct?

923
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: I can look it up.

924
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Took it up. I think he's six to two, about

925
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: two ten.

926
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: And I loved his film, Like I'm always looking for

927
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: guys that I think embody kind of the dirty work

928
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: traits of a position, and he's a guy that definitely

929
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: did that for me. He's rolling the block, willing to

930
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: make tough contested catches. Not kind of the guy at Georgia.

931
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Obviously that's Lad mccognity, but he was a guy that

932
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: definitely I just I really enjoyed watching his film.

933
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: I think he had a medical issue.

934
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I think had an acl that they were people are

935
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: a knee issue that people were concerned about, which is

936
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: maybe why goes undrafted. But I love the player, love

937
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the way he approaches the game, loved the like the

938
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: yards after catchability, blocking on screens like probably again has

939
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: special teams value, but I really enjoyed he was one

940
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: of my one of my kind of dark horse receiver

941
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: guys that it just like I just liked him, and

942
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: so I'm really happy to see him here.

943
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah he's six two one ninety five. So here's something

944
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: that's I think pretty good about him. Yeah, for a

945
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: wide receiver. You want to see this. He's had zero

946
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: drop the passes since twenty twenty two. That's with eighty

947
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: eight targets. Yeah, zero drop passes in his whole career.

948
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Only two drop passes.

949
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude catches ball, Yeah catch.

950
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: You love to see that from a wide receiver.

951
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: Shows up on tape. He does the receiver stuff well,

952
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: runs good routes, physical blocking, makes tough catches. I thought

953
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: he did find at the Senior Bowl, like he wasn't

954
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, the best wasn't the worst, kind of right

955
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: in the middle there, and that's what you expect from him.

956
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: A guy that's going to have a nice role on

957
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: the team. But I love the way he approaches it.

958
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: And I wonder if his medical was better, like if

959
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: he's if he's drafted to a different team.

960
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can really see with this process how

961
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: Peters and Quinn and the whole staff here are putting

962
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: the pieces of the puzzle together, from free agency bringing

963
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: in the veterans that they did at the positions that

964
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: they did, to the draft to the undrafted free agents.

965
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: There's going to be more free agency signings that come along.

966
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure like you can start to see this team

967
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: get built and in the image that they said that

968
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: they were going to do it absolutely what you have

969
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: here with them is all these guys are guys that

970
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: love football. They either have athletic traits or just the

971
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: design correct to be better all the time always, and

972
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: in many cases both of those things. And like there

973
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: is clearly a culture with what they're building here and

974
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this plays out on the field.

975
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: This draft strategy that we haven't seen in Washington in

976
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: a long time.

977
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's extremely exciting and it's you

978
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head there. It's the type

979
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: of guy they're bringing in, and I think that's that's

980
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging. They're all kind of wired the same way.

981
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: So even though I haven't seen, you know, some of

982
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: these undrafted for agent guys, I know that they're going

983
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: to be kind of cut from the same cloth, of

984
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: the same mold, because that's kind of what they've prioritized

985
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: throughout the process, which is always really exciting. But I

986
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: think that's going to do it for today's show, for

987
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: day Yeah, and let us know, right, let us know

988
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: if you're interested in seeing more of these shows, the

989
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: once a month thing, the updates and what you want

990
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: to see in those shows, We really appreciate it. But

991
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: that's going to do it for today, and I think

992
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: that's it.