1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow. 6 00:00:40,319 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: And find out what led to some of the greatest 7 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: moments in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:48,078 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Coy. 9 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: You're joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but 10 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:53,679 Speaker 2: number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. Good 11 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:55,679 Speaker 2: to be home. Good to see you guys. 12 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:01,239 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,839 --> 00:01:01,999 Speaker 2: The way you are got. 14 00:01:01,999 --> 00:01:05,118 Speaker 3: Spirit out, talkers out with the way you guys maybe 15 00:01:05,158 --> 00:01:07,798 Speaker 3: played the rest first half of the season coming in 16 00:01:07,839 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 3: and then. 17 00:01:08,119 --> 00:01:11,599 Speaker 2: The turnovers and that sequence in the second half that 18 00:01:11,679 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: cost you. 19 00:01:12,399 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: How frustrating was that. 20 00:01:13,919 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: It's really frustrating just hurting ourselves the same thing, same 21 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: things repeating, and you know those guys are playing, We're 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: playing hard. 23 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. You know, I see those guys 24 00:01:23,919 --> 00:01:25,958 Speaker 2: are fighting. We're fighting. 25 00:01:25,999 --> 00:01:28,719 Speaker 3: You know what atmosphere out there is, you know, we 26 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: feel like the way it really affect us. For we're 27 00:01:30,679 --> 00:01:33,519 Speaker 3: they run ball well, thrown it well, and got off 28 00:01:33,559 --> 00:01:36,519 Speaker 3: to a hot start, and I'll just came out the 29 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: second half and just you know, put a difference in 30 00:01:38,078 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: a tough spot after they tied it up and then 31 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:42,438 Speaker 3: went down there in the red zone and just gotta 32 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: bet in the red zone on me, I gotta be 33 00:01:43,879 --> 00:01:45,359 Speaker 3: I gotta be better, and I gotta be better with 34 00:01:45,479 --> 00:01:47,759 Speaker 3: getting this tough and be ready for you know, blid 35 00:01:47,919 --> 00:01:50,359 Speaker 3: zero and then making plays and it at some point 36 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 3: down there, it's a reflection of the quarterback and I 37 00:01:51,919 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 3: think it's gonna start to come that way down there 38 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:55,199 Speaker 3: in the red zone, and I gotta, you know, do 39 00:01:55,239 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 3: better and do more and it'll make better throws and 40 00:01:58,679 --> 00:02:00,519 Speaker 3: give our guys chances, cause you know they're playing their 41 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 3: butts off. 42 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:03,799 Speaker 2: You said some reflection the quarterbacks me, they're they're kind 43 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:04,359 Speaker 2: of challenging you. 44 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:07,759 Speaker 3: They're breaking Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean just 45 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,599 Speaker 3: me seeing it. You know, you're they're you're presenting a 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,759 Speaker 3: picture the breen zero. They're presenting the pictures and dropping out. 47 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: I think it's just colens on me to hey, we're 48 00:02:14,799 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: gonna force you to make tight throws and force you 49 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:19,159 Speaker 3: to be ready for blid zero and force you to 50 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: they'll not be able to run the ball, and mayb 51 00:02:21,959 --> 00:02:23,478 Speaker 3: gotta make a play not lett me scramble off and 52 00:02:23,559 --> 00:02:27,319 Speaker 3: I scrambled a little bit too early sometimes tonight. And 53 00:02:27,358 --> 00:02:29,758 Speaker 3: then just at the end of the day, you know 54 00:02:29,799 --> 00:02:31,558 Speaker 3: we're in that game and that's the playoff football team. 55 00:02:31,559 --> 00:02:34,199 Speaker 3: We just played with a m VP candidate, and you 56 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 3: know we're in that game, and I felt like we 57 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: had a chance to come out with them. 58 00:02:37,959 --> 00:02:41,559 Speaker 1: So two laterals that the game, are those designing laterals 59 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,999 Speaker 1: or execution off on those focus. 60 00:02:44,559 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 3: I'm not but yeah, we running that playoffs season. I'm 61 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,199 Speaker 3: just unfortunate that, you know, we didn't get the end. 62 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: You know that ends up. 63 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:56,439 Speaker 3: You know, a big dude, it's tough, tough player to cut. 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 3: So that's really just a you know, tough break and 65 00:03:00,038 --> 00:03:01,918 Speaker 3: you gotta get back and maybe try to make it forward. 66 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,199 Speaker 3: But you know, tough, tough player on mandre to catch 67 00:03:05,239 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: it and get blown up. 68 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: So maybe. 69 00:03:08,359 --> 00:03:11,798 Speaker 3: Either gotta throw it that's somebody's feet or do something 70 00:03:11,799 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: different reception. 71 00:03:14,839 --> 00:03:17,918 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, uh shoo, there's a collision. Definitely have 72 00:03:17,999 --> 00:03:18,479 Speaker 2: the goal line. 73 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:20,918 Speaker 3: We had a you know concept and you know, you 74 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: kind of felt like it was gonna be the same 75 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 3: type throw against the Colts to hoop and I let 76 00:03:26,079 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 3: go early, you know, thinking he'd break it off, and. 77 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: You know, just wasn't on the same page. I gotave 78 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:31,638 Speaker 2: him a chance. 79 00:03:31,679 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: I think he was thinking back pylon, so I gotta 80 00:03:33,239 --> 00:03:35,159 Speaker 3: give him a better chance to you know, give him 81 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:38,279 Speaker 3: a maybe hold the safety a little bit. So just 82 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:40,479 Speaker 3: you know, frustrating, we're down there, get a chance to 83 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:42,239 Speaker 3: go up and you know, make it a twenty one 84 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:45,639 Speaker 3: to seventeen ball game. And uh just a kind of uh, 85 00:03:46,079 --> 00:03:47,359 Speaker 3: you know, frustrating kind of heartbreaker. 86 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:50,599 Speaker 1: Sure on that touchdown to the cage and you stayed. 87 00:03:50,359 --> 00:03:51,959 Speaker 2: Us through that play and what this ow there? 88 00:03:51,999 --> 00:03:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, just taking a shot pressed up man, And I'm 89 00:03:53,799 --> 00:03:56,399 Speaker 3: just giving giving our guys a chance to win on 90 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:58,679 Speaker 3: a fade ball. And I think you know, have some 91 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:00,919 Speaker 3: other chances tonight throw back shoulders instead of you know, 92 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 3: throwing up over the shoulder. But a great play by 93 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,999 Speaker 3: Booty and h felt like it was a great start 94 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 3: for you know, the game for you know, get up. 95 00:04:07,519 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 2: Seven o and then you know what a catch or 96 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:14,199 Speaker 2: your question your first quarterback to nine kind of back yat. 97 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, uh, the one of the goal one 98 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,318 Speaker 3: should cut it up, should have thought slick out there, 99 00:04:20,039 --> 00:04:23,399 Speaker 3: couldn't really steal my feet. But I think the other stuff, 100 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, chance for us to pick 101 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 3: us first downs. He had a big one at the 102 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 3: end there around the edge, and other than that, I think, 103 00:04:29,239 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: you know, there's a time ploor. 104 00:04:30,239 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: But at the. 105 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 3: Same time, I think of me making plays. I think 106 00:04:34,239 --> 00:04:36,238 Speaker 3: I'll scramble enough and make some plays. 107 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: With a VP and maybe draw it around those plays 108 00:04:40,318 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: being introduced to use in the game lens or those 109 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,399 Speaker 2: moutl plays. 110 00:04:43,438 --> 00:04:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, big six five dude, they can 111 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, pick up a yard or you know, beat 112 00:04:47,678 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: somebody with some speed. And I think people underestimate me 113 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,639 Speaker 3: a little bit. So I think it helps us offensively 114 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: to move the change and at this point, you know 115 00:04:55,799 --> 00:04:57,999 Speaker 3: need some helping them some short yardage or some different 116 00:04:58,039 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 3: areas and you're going in the red zone for me 117 00:04:59,599 --> 00:05:00,838 Speaker 3: to you'll go make a play. 118 00:05:00,958 --> 00:05:05,398 Speaker 1: So you guys want to be a team that's really 119 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: difficult to play against at the end of the year, 120 00:05:08,359 --> 00:05:10,519 Speaker 1: despite the loss, do you take any solace. 121 00:05:10,159 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 2: From that feature go to play. 122 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,399 Speaker 3: Close game against the good teams that yeah, I think, uh, 123 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,238 Speaker 3: you know, when you lose, it's tough to kind of 124 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:20,639 Speaker 3: you know, think about the positives and you know, it's 125 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 3: so frustrating, and. 126 00:05:23,159 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold myself from some manger. 127 00:05:25,239 --> 00:05:27,399 Speaker 3: It's just you know, at some point it turns from 128 00:05:27,438 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: disappointment to just kind of you know, you're getting you're 129 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 3: getting frustrate, real frustrated. 130 00:05:31,159 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: So, uh, the big thing is, uh, it's a tough 131 00:05:34,078 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 2: environment here. 132 00:05:34,958 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: It's a basically a night game, basically basically a prime 133 00:05:37,438 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: time game in Buffalo and maybe, like I said, against 134 00:05:40,318 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: MVP candidate and you know, good defense and a team 135 00:05:43,479 --> 00:05:45,598 Speaker 3: that's gonna be in the playoffs. Almost proud of the guys, 136 00:05:45,599 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: and you know, Coach Mayo said that at the end, 137 00:05:48,039 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: you know, tonight's kind of breakdown. He said, you're proud 138 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: of us, but at the same time, it's not where 139 00:05:53,159 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 3: we want to be. And put thing, it's kind of 140 00:05:56,078 --> 00:05:58,398 Speaker 3: sneak peak hopefully into you know, some meaningful games here 141 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,198 Speaker 3: and hopefully it's at our place in the future years, 142 00:06:01,239 --> 00:06:03,398 Speaker 3: but some meaningful games at the end, you know, with 143 00:06:03,438 --> 00:06:06,319 Speaker 3: Buffalo and in December and hopefully just some super seam 144 00:06:06,359 --> 00:06:08,879 Speaker 3: in two weeks, so the final parts gonna fall. 145 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: Bill said, you know the fact. 146 00:06:10,359 --> 00:06:12,759 Speaker 3: That there were fourteen point hundred dollars coming in there 147 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: eleven through your three at eleven, A lot swirling around ABE. 148 00:06:15,958 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: This week and. 149 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: Even drawed, and how good was there for the team 150 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: that kind of you said, The best is that he 151 00:06:22,599 --> 00:06:26,118 Speaker 3: got the coaches backs, And well, yeah, just trying to 152 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:28,079 Speaker 3: just trying to block out that noise. You know, I 153 00:06:28,119 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: think it's a you know, a bunch of you're kind 154 00:06:30,039 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: of stations about our at our coaching staff and you know, 155 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: stuff like that. I think it's uh, you know, some bs, 156 00:06:36,159 --> 00:06:39,238 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, you know, Coach Mail, those guys, 157 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:41,238 Speaker 3: Coach Mail's you know, we got like I said, we. 158 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: Got his back, and his coach is hard. He wants 159 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: to win. 160 00:06:43,078 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: We all want to win. You know, we're all frustrated. 161 00:06:45,359 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: A VP has been I don't feel like I feel 162 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: calling great the past past weeks. We're just plays away 163 00:06:50,438 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 3: and pasically me turning the ball over. I think it's 164 00:06:53,599 --> 00:06:55,999 Speaker 3: just a testament these guys. They keep fighting, we keep fighting. 165 00:06:56,239 --> 00:06:58,199 Speaker 3: We're not gonna make the playoffs. We're out of the race, 166 00:06:58,239 --> 00:07:00,158 Speaker 3: and these guys are keep coming in and on the 167 00:07:00,159 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: frustrating we don't score, and there they got energy a 168 00:07:03,119 --> 00:07:04,879 Speaker 3: practice and they got energy coming into the game, and 169 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 3: we want to win this guys not even playing that 170 00:07:07,399 --> 00:07:09,438 Speaker 3: or are yelling on the sidelines and and wanting to win. 171 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:11,919 Speaker 3: So it's a I think we're building something good, building 172 00:07:11,958 --> 00:07:13,639 Speaker 3: something that's that feels right here. 173 00:07:13,719 --> 00:07:16,639 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm proud to be you know, proud 174 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:20,359 Speaker 2: to be a Patriot. Last part, you're going over six. 175 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 2: Last week he's doing on a third guy. He started 176 00:07:24,119 --> 00:07:24,879 Speaker 2: four and four of. 177 00:07:24,919 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: The day, a lot more game out of the wall. 178 00:07:30,159 --> 00:07:33,479 Speaker 2: You can overcome some of the decent files for sure. Yeah, 179 00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:34,839 Speaker 2: I felt last week just to really to get in 180 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:35,439 Speaker 2: the flow of the game. 181 00:07:35,479 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: I feel like kind of we got into the flow 182 00:07:36,679 --> 00:07:39,278 Speaker 3: of the game tonight and I felt I was seen it. 183 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:39,519 Speaker 2: Well. 184 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:42,038 Speaker 3: So those guys who do a good job of you know, 185 00:07:42,078 --> 00:07:43,999 Speaker 3: find space and you'll beating their man one on one. 186 00:07:43,999 --> 00:07:46,319 Speaker 3: They challenges one on ones, and you know, I think, 187 00:07:46,958 --> 00:07:48,599 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully people continue to do that because I 188 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:51,479 Speaker 3: like our guys won on one matchups. I'm I think 189 00:07:52,078 --> 00:07:53,959 Speaker 3: it's a little bit different game for a fourteen seven 190 00:07:53,958 --> 00:07:55,639 Speaker 3: that first throwed a booty. 191 00:07:55,799 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 2: I throw it in the dirt, had a dig across 192 00:07:57,119 --> 00:07:58,719 Speaker 2: the middle. It's fourteen seven. I think I hit it. 193 00:07:58,719 --> 00:08:00,119 Speaker 2: That's probably possibly a big. 194 00:07:59,999 --> 00:08:02,199 Speaker 3: Play and maybe get down there and score another time, 195 00:08:02,239 --> 00:08:05,518 Speaker 3: that'd be huge. So it challenged us and I think 196 00:08:06,078 --> 00:08:07,518 Speaker 3: we felt like in a good rhythm, and you know, 197 00:08:07,559 --> 00:08:09,879 Speaker 3: credit those guys are studying the plan. We're getting in, 198 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:11,399 Speaker 3: you know, in in and out of a lot of 199 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:14,439 Speaker 3: different calls and different formations and different play calls. So 200 00:08:14,759 --> 00:08:15,999 Speaker 3: you know, proud of those guys, and you know, I 201 00:08:15,999 --> 00:08:17,199 Speaker 3: feel like we've got something to look forward to. 202 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook Join John Brook as he brings you all 203 00:08:21,119 --> 00:08:24,518 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 204 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 205 00:08:27,599 --> 00:08:29,599 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 206 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 1: state of the be. 207 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:31,839 Speaker 2: Where the Patriots are concerned. 208 00:08:32,078 --> 00:08:34,399 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done and let's get it 209 00:08:34,439 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: done right and then we. 210 00:08:35,958 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: Can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here? 211 00:08:38,958 --> 00:08:41,279 Speaker 2: Let's just get one thing done. Let's get one thing 212 00:08:41,359 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: done right, and then we can move along. That's kind 213 00:08:44,439 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 2: of my biggest thing. 214 00:08:45,319 --> 00:08:47,958 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts