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Speaker 1: Stephen from New Jersey asks us, how can you say

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427
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Speaker 1: program and that university. That program would not miss a

428
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Speaker 1: beat if you walked away. I'm just being real with you.

429
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Speaker 1: You need to get everything you can out of that

430
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Speaker 1: because they do use you. I had someone put it

431
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Speaker 1: very very succinctly the other day. They said, gotta make sure,

432
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Speaker 1: when you're in college you use college football instead of

433
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: college football just using you. It should be a two ways.

434
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: They are going to use you. You're really good athlete,

435
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna benefit from you putting on their uniform.

436
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 1: They're gonna win games in part because of you. But

437
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: if you think you're driving up that program's value, oh man,

438
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Speaker 1: aside from a very very small handful of exceptions, you're not.

439
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Speaker 1: You're not. And yet some of you are about to

440
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Speaker 1: get compensated, probably above and beyond what true market value

441
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Speaker 1: would be. I'm not mad at it. I'm happy for you.

442
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is enjoy it, and thank the Good

443
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Speaker 1: Lord above at night that you've come along in the

444
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Speaker 1: area you've come along in, because I'm telling you college

445
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: football does not need star players. Now, there is something

446
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Speaker 1: to be said. If you do have a transcendent star player,

447
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: you and I are gonna watch the sport no matter what.

448
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: But your aunt Gladys maybe lured into tuning into a

449
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: game if there's a huge star. Okay, so you may

450
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: get a sidewalk crowd population that otherwise wouldn't watch the games.

451
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: That just benefits TV networks. That doesn't benefit you nor

452
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Speaker 1: does it benefit me, So I don't really talk about

453
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Speaker 1: that all that much. I just think college football is great,

454
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's great for reasons that extend far

455
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: beyond star players. Other leagues, other sports are different. That's

456
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Speaker 1: the way college football is. Next up, Peter, Oh yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: I was gonna save this one for last, but since

458
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: I already started at Peter, I'll hit this one now.

459
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Peter says, I love the no off season mentality because

460
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Speaker 1: it gives me something to listen to year round. Thank

461
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Speaker 1: you Peter's words, not mine, he continues, But isn't one

462
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Speaker 1: of the perks of covering a sport that you know

463
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Speaker 1: a down period will eventually come, kind of like a

464
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Speaker 1: school teacher looking forward to summer break. I think what

465
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Speaker 1: Peter's trying to say here is why the whole no

466
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Speaker 1: off season thing when one of the perks is supposed

467
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: to be that you get an off season. Look, I

468
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: said the word, uh, Peter, I don't want one. I

469
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: don't want one. So that's not a perk to me.

470
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Speaker 1: Here's the perk. I get to talk about a game

471
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Speaker 1: for a living. That's the perk. The perk is I've

472
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Speaker 1: worked many an many a job that sucked, and all

473
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: I thought about was sports all day. It's all I

474
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: talked about with the dudes in the warehouse when I

475
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: worked there, or on the construction site when I worked there,

476
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: That's all we talked about. So imagine a world where

477
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: they put a microphone in front of you, they let

478
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: you own your own show, they'll pay you, and you

479
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: just talk about what you would talk about for fun anyway.

480
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: Who needs a break from that? That's what you do

481
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: on the break, Peter, at jobs you don't like. So

482
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: I I think I told this story a long time ago.

483
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: It's not a long one, don't worry. First time I

484
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: ever got to cover a game was only back in

485
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. I have only been doing that about a

486
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: decade and I went into my first press box ever.

487
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: It was one of those big kickoff games in Atlanta,

488
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Speaker 1: and I remember having this image in my mind of

489
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Speaker 1: what people who cover sports must be like. They all

490
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: must be the happiest people in the world when they're

491
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Speaker 1: at games. It must be total euphoria. They must look

492
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Speaker 1: around and pinch each other and just say, can you

493
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Speaker 1: believe we get to do this? I'm not kidding you.

494
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: This was my perception as an outsider about what the

495
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Speaker 1: sports media industry must be like. And I walked in

496
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: that press box in Atlanta, and I saw a lot

497
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Speaker 1: of big names. Some of them had watched, some of

498
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: them I had read, but I'd known many of them

499
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: for a long time. I'd known their work, and I

500
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: saw them and I could not have been more underwhelmed.

501
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more disappointed. But I also couldn't

502
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: have been more inspired. So let me tell you what

503
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean really quick. When I say I was underwhelmed

504
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: and disappointed, my perception was not reality at all. These people,

505
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Speaker 1: some of them, at least, looked miserable. They looked like

506
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Speaker 1: you do if you're at a job you don't like

507
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: right now, and statistically many of you are. Then you

508
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: go to work and you're counting the hours until you

509
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: get to clock out, and you're counting the years until

510
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: you can somehow get out of there. You working towards

511
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: retirement or whatever you're doing, but you're not doing what

512
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Speaker 1: you're passionate about. And not trust me, I've been there.

513
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Speaker 1: It sucks. I know these people look like that, and

514
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: they're covering a college football game. And I thought to myself,

515
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: and I still think to myself, how could anybody be miserable?

516
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: How could you look miserable doing this? But what I

517
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: came to find out over the years is I was

518
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: wrong in my default belief that everyone who covers sports

519
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: love sports. They don't. They don't. Don't even get me

520
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: started on how competitive this business is, therefore, and how

521
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: crazy it is that someone who doesn't love it ended

522
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: up getting one of the jobs at the head table,

523
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: because that makes no sense to me. But I was

524
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: so disappointed in just how morose the vibe in the

525
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: press box was. But then I was inspired because I

526
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: look around and I say, wait a second. I've always

527
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: thought to myself, there's this impenetrable wall, and inside are

528
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: the biggest, best, brightest, enthusiastic minds in all of sports media,

529
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and I could never keep up with them. I could

530
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: never go at that speed. And then I saw what

531
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: speed they're going at. This is. I know this sounds

532
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: very broad. I'm not talking about everyone in this business,

533
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: just a few observational points that I had that night.

534
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Those are a lot of folks doing a lot of

535
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: good work in our business and always have and still

536
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: are today. But I looked around and said, if this

537
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: is it. If this is the competition, we could create

538
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: something that just owns this space. And shortly thereafter I

539
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: started this show, I started lay kick and did whatever

540
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I had to do to make sure that we could

541
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: do it the way we wanted to and produce it

542
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: the way we wanted to and see what happened to it.

543
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: And so why would I ever want to break from that, Peter,

544
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: it's my question. I don't want to break from it

545
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: at all. In fact, we have put out more content

546
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: since the season ended than we were putting out during

547
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: an average week in the season. I told management, and

548
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I told our staff, and Jesse's out here trying to

549
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: get married. This spring, I said, Jesse is going to

550
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: be tough, because we're turning the volume up this spring.

551
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: We're going to fifteen or twenty campuses. We're going to

552
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: do live shows from every time, zoning this country several

553
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: times over. And we're gonna do it because we can.

554
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: And we're gonna put the pedal all the way down

555
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: to the floor because there are other folks out there

556
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: who want to take a vacation and they need to

557
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: know in this space you are ultimately providing content to

558
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: people who want it as an escape. Peter, you just

559
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 1: said you're glad this is year round. Why because it

560
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: gives you something to listen to year round. And I'm

561
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: guessing it gives you something to listen to when you're

562
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: doing something you'd rather not be doing because thousands upon

563
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of our listeners, I know good and

564
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: well listen on your commute, or you find a way

565
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: to listen or watch at work and you're doing it

566
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: to pass the time. Well, if you're providing content for

567
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: those folks, they don't get an off season, Peter, where

568
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: are you working? You don't get an off season? And

569
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: insurance sales, why in the world should I? I'm doing

570
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: the fun stuff. Why should I? So I get worked

571
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: up a little bit, I know, but I'm very passionate

572
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: about that particular point. I have to have that little

573
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Speaker 1: talk with some of my people frequently who want to,

574
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, check out for a couple of months because well,

575
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: well there are no games, okay, alrighty, Well, feel free

576
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: to come back. Probably won't have a job waiting for you,

577
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: but feel free to come back anytime. I'm looking at you, Jesse,

578
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: right after you get married. No, we're kidding. Jesse. Jesse

579
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: has agreed to have a spring wedding on a Friday.

580
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: How about that? So we wish producer Jesse the best

581
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Speaker 1: of luck. I don't know if he's changing his name

582
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: or not. I have no clue. That's his personal business.

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Speaker 1: But I am in the wedding. I am in the wedding.

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Speaker 1: I am choosing to confirm that. Yes, I am in

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Speaker 1: what his Lanning won? I Some of you are lifers,

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Speaker 1: And I was talking program, not team. I said, the

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Speaker 1: did I not yet? Yes? Yes, okay, I said that.

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Speaker 1: All right. That sounds like hype. That sounds like a

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Speaker 1: fair amount of hype. I will say that Whittingham does

626
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Speaker 1: not seek attention. Landing and Oregon seek attention. Therefore they

627
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: get it a little bit more. Now, that could be

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00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
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Speaker 1: it could be bad. I don't think Oregon's scared of that.

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Speaker 1: gonna be a truth telling exercise here. Oregon's a more

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Speaker 1: high profile program, more people care about him, therefore more

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: people talk about him. That doesn't mean they've been better

635
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,520
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00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: It's apples to bowling balls comparison anyway. Winningham's been around

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Speaker 1: of the best in the country and has been for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Dan Lanning's been a head coach for

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds, So I don't compare them. I think the

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Speaker 1: world of Dan Lanning. He's a friend of the program.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go on to do great things.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham has done those great things. You ask, what

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Speaker 1: is Landing won, Well, he's won a lot of football games,

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Speaker 1: hadn't won a conference, hadn't won a national title, hadn't

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Speaker 1: gone to the playoff. I guess that's what you mean

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Speaker 1: by that. But he's three years in, so I am

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Speaker 1: willing to give him a little bit of time. And

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Speaker 1: I always, I always am very curious when someone talks

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Speaker 1: about being overrated. You're overrating this team, You're over hyping

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Speaker 1: this guy. You know, my modus operandi is always to

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Speaker 1: ask them what have I said or what have I

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Speaker 1: rated them? And at that case they either just start

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Speaker 1: shouting hysterics and the conversation quickly goes into meltdown mode,

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Speaker 1: or they'll say, oh, there you go again, trying to

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Speaker 1: ride the fence. There you go again, trying to wiggle out. No,

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Speaker 1: there I go again, trying to understand what it is

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Speaker 1: you think I said, because most of the time, like

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, ninety plus percent of the time, someone

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Speaker 1: who's hating on it didn't watch the show. For instance,

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Speaker 1: if you had watched me talk about Utah and Kyle Whinningham,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this question would have been asked, but

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Speaker 1: it so there's my answer. Next up, can you explain

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Speaker 1: this is Jeremy, by the way, can you explain why

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Speaker 1: your show's very so much in length? Some are forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes, others could be an hour twenty Well, very simply, Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a heart out, as you would say

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Speaker 1: in legacy traditional media. There is no time that we

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Speaker 1: have to be done. We just go to we don't

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Speaker 1: have anything to say anymore. That is basically how I

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Speaker 1: try and do the show. I try and pack as

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Speaker 1: much of it in as I can, but I also

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Speaker 1: we're never going to put filler in the show. But

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Speaker 1: I also don't want to be stretching things beyond where

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Speaker 1: they need to be stretched. Immunity, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: way to talk about a whole lot and to get

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Speaker 1: it in in a pretty succinct period of time. You

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Speaker 1: need to be very deliberate about it. You need to

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Speaker 1: understand what's important. You need to be able to trim

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Speaker 1: a out of the fat off, which is hard sometimes honestly,

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Speaker 1: because I want to interject as much as I can,

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Speaker 1: just like the next guy does. But there's a way

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Speaker 1: to get it in. I'd say most of our shows

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Speaker 1: usually go about an hour. But if I'm at forty

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Speaker 1: t two minutes and I feel like we're done, I

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Speaker 1: say goodbye. And if I'm in an hour ten and

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Speaker 1: we still got two more segments to go, I tell

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Speaker 1: Jesse and Collins strap in, it's gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: while we go as long as we need to to

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Speaker 1: make it a complete show. I guess would be the

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Speaker 1: working theory behind that. Let's see Trevor. Where Trevor's question

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Speaker 1: go here it is he said, what's your favorite college

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Speaker 1: gonna single one of these folks out. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a few. I am not gonna single one of them

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Speaker 1: out because they're all awesome to work with. Dave Blue

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Speaker 1: at Alabama is one of my favorite people to talk to.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about Dave Blue is he's been

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Speaker 1: responsible for training some of the most finely tuned athletes

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Speaker 1: in college football the last several years, and he can

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Speaker 1: outlift most of them. When you're the S and C

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Speaker 1: you are not to be messed with. Aaron Fell down

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Speaker 1: it markets himself like a psychopath. It's effective. It works,

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Speaker 1: a guy who's set in Fell's office and just talked

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Speaker 1: with him for like an hour and a half. There

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Speaker 1: very philosophical human under there. It's almost like you're seeing

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Speaker 1: saying there are layers to that guy, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: know him. But we get treated We get treated pretty

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Speaker 1: well most everywhere we go. Like I said, I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have even named those two because there are so many

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Speaker 1: I know this was a little abbreviated because I've been

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Speaker 1: the road again. We're gonna be live in ut at

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Speaker 1: Austin or at Texas in Austin this Thursday. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: really fun conversation. I don't know where we're going to

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Speaker 1: go because out of all the these interviews, I have

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Speaker 1: So it's all on the fly. We just call it

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Speaker 1: say we haven't edited a single thing out. There was

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Speaker 1: had to step in and say, I think you may

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Speaker 1: want us to cut that, and we did. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you who it is, but ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 1: that's been said, and certainly when I'm talking about didn't

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Speaker 1: this should be good, should be no different Sork looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. Thank you guys so much. Got to

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Speaker 1: see you Thursday.

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