1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: It is the best of two pros and a couple 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Airings and Rady Winn and Jonas Knox 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: on Box Radio. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Hey listen, man, moment of truth. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: If you ain't a gaiter, you just gator Babs whose 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: brackets are busted? 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 4: My bread been busted. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 5: Man, Thanks, Mark Pope my bracke. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't even care. I quit. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 4: Get Mark Pope. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: Out of there? Are you going in this early? 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 4: I'm going in right away? 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Man, all right, BBN, there are two years in the 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: head in the wrong direction. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 4: Mister with all those resources and everything, Man, just get 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: him out of here. 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 5: Dang couldn't assemble a team with a damn point guard. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 5: I said, I mean, let's be real's let's be real. 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: It was a miracle they got und Yeah. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I was about to say, yeah. 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 5: It was a miracle they got there anyway, And so 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: now you know, they basically delayed what would have probably 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 5: been an easier decision to move on. I think the 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 5: buyout in the high ends like seventeen million. But this 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: team has gotten worse. I mean, you go look at 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 5: where they were last year, what they looked like last 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: year compared to this year, and at one point I 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 5: was like, oh, they're actually playing really good defense, which 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 5: has been a struggle under Mark Pope. And then now 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 5: you look at the game and just go, oh, I 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: A would stay. It was a shooting board in the 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 5: first half. That was what it came down to. It 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 5: wasn't anything to do with Kentucky's defense for the most part. 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: So that's a blue blood that's a program that has 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: to be looking at so many others that have whether 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: it's the Dukes, the Arizona's, the Yukons, Michigan State, whoever 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: would have thrown into the category of a blue blood 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: basketball program. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: They have to be. 40 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: Looking everywhere else and going yeah, everyone seemed to figure 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: it out, but us, something's got to change. 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: Man, I mean, so, so what what what is that? 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Is it? 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 6: Really? 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: After two years, that's a rap. 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: Like bring back Patino. 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm in. 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm in Like everyone everyone wants. 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 5: Everyone wants to compare to coach Cal and what they 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: had on their Coach Cal. Part of the issue, you know, 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 5: was a bit of the administration at Kentucky, But even 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 5: towards the end of coach Cal's time, it's like, Okay, 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: well and look, the Arkansas is obviously in a good spot. 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: Now they got to play Arizona in. 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: The sweet sixteen. We'll see how that goes. But you 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,559 Speaker 5: need someone who's been able to do more with less. 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 5: Like I look at Iowa last night. Go look at 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 5: their head coach's tenure and where he's came from and 59 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 5: what he's done. Go look at the college football side 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 5: at Kurt Signetti, where he came from, what he's done, 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: and what he's done in Indiana. Like that to me, 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 5: resonates that, to me is what wins right now in 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 5: college roants to be like, well, you want a bunch 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: of money. No, here's the thing is, there's never an 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: endless pot of money for your program. For these players. 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: You need an investment by the university president, you need 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: an investment by the alums. But at the same time, 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: you need someone who knows how to stretch that dollar. 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: Two who knows how to construct the right team, Like 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: I think now more than ever, beyond coaching, there's a 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: big hat that's worn by these coaches that is more 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: of a general manager and understanding how to construct your 73 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 5: roster with the amount of money you're allocated. And that's 74 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 5: something that unfortunately Kentucky this year was not able to 75 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: do and I don't think or Mark pope Is has 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: been able to get that together over the past two 77 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: years now. 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 6: It just makes you wonder, like those all those names 79 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 6: that you mentioned that hat success or are having success, 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 6: how are they able to find it? Like with Hurley, 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 6: He's found it and he has maintained it. Izzo has 82 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 6: found it and has maintained it for a really long 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 6: time and is one of the last of a dying breeze. 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 6: He's like one of the last of the Mohicans man, 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: one of them hard knows till your remember. He told 86 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 6: his dude to get the old player that was in 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 6: the stads. That was, Hey, get the hell out of here. 88 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing? 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: Get out of here, like he talking to us, get. 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: The hell out of the Jim. 91 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: It just makes you It not only makes me wonder, 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: how you're able to create it that that type of 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: following and culture to begin with. Because it's easy to say, Okay, 94 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: you come in as a coach, you want to bring 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: in the right players. Nobody thinks they scout and recruit 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 6: the wrong player. You don't sit there and say, yep, 97 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 6: this is who we're giving a scholarship to. Because this 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 6: is the wrong player to get. Nobody's going out there 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 6: and feeling bad about the horse horses they're they're planning 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 6: on putting in the race. But how do you take 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 6: it from point A to point B being a winning team, 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 6: a winning culture, and then from B to C where 103 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 6: you're actually maintaining that high level of success. 104 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: That's the biggest question to me. 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 6: And honestly speaking, when you think about what you just said, 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 6: you look at how these games play out, whether we're 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: looking at this tournament right now as a whole, or 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 6: we're looking at the college football season and what Signetti 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 6: was able to do and some other teams like Texas 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 6: Tech what they were able to do. It just makes 111 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 6: you really appreciate coaching staffs, I would venture, I would 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 6: I would really venture to say boldly coaching staffs are 113 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: more important now than they have ever been. That would 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 6: be my bold claim, just in what I'm watching right now. Yeah, 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 6: so college, I would say, I would most likely say 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: more so college because of just the amount of pressure 117 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 6: and and the things that you can't control, the non 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 6: controllable things that college coaches have now been thrust into 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: having to deal with. I would say it's it's probably 120 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: more of a pad on the back or more of 121 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 6: a great accomplishment for a coach to be a successful 122 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 6: coach in college, but it does exist in the pros 123 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: as well. 124 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Also, Probably in college, you've got so many other. 125 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: Factors off the court or field that you've got to 126 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: deal with. 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: All the other you. 128 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: Know, social media, the ANI, it's very different. All the 129 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: stuff that that athletes deal with. It that now very 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: just downhill the coaches have to deal with. That's why 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: what Patino's done is unbelievable, because he's he's been doing this. 132 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 6: You didn't mentioned Patino againsty, So this is what it's 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 6: all about. Huh yeah, y'all lobbya, y'all, y'all working together. 134 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 6: You're because you get Rick Patino back to Kentucky. That's 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 6: what he's done it. He's done it at multiple stocks. 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: He's still older over decades now and he's done it 137 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: multiple different levels of now the nil era and he's 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: got Saint John's in the sweet. 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 6: I mean blue shoes and and you know cialis and stuff. 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: But I probably ain't even working anymore. So he's just 141 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 6: more focused. 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: Now I get that guy do an Italian restaurant again. 143 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: He's good. Oh yeah, a little bit of red wine, 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: red red one. 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what the I don't know how, I 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: don't know what the chicken palms like in Lexington. 147 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: He might not go out as often anymore, you know, 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: But get Patino back, man. 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 6: That man can't wear a suit though, can he? 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: He can't wear a suit? 151 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: I mean I also appreciate that, man. I love the 152 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: old school coach just to wear a suit he can wear. 153 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: I feel like during COVID, guys started dressing down, you know, 154 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: after that, like they don't not a lot of more 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: suits anymore. 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: I just there's something about it. 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Bob Huggins was really ahead of his time. Man. 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 6: Well, because he's like one of them, AAU dudes, you 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like he lives on that like 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: it's just real clubbish. 161 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: It ain't. Huggins is clubbish. 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: The other two things I want to draw attention to 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 5: is once again, which conference has the most teams in 164 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen. 165 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: Let's just go ahead into Big ten, agains. 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: Big ten again, Big ten with six out basing the 167 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 5: SEC and everyone else for that matter. 168 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: So as I've continued to stay and will continue to. 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: Say, as you look through the NIL era, the Big 170 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: Ten has the most money from the TV media rights deal. 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 5: It's playing out that way as you continue to watch 172 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: the Big Ten distance itself from other conferences, the SEC 173 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: got the most in It's not how it's worked out 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: so far, and probably no better indication of that than 175 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: watching Iowa upset the defending national champions of Florida Gators 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: and last night's thriller that was a tremendous game. Trends, 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: but six Big Ten teams now in the sweet sixteen, 178 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 5: that number is going to go down rather quickly because 179 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: you've got, for example, Iowa play in Nebraska, so unfortunately 180 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: one obviously. 181 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: We'll move on, but one will not. 182 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: But either way, I'm not sure how great of a 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: chance outside of Michigan maybe'd say Michigan State Purdue they 184 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: have of winning the national championship. Like, I'm not sure 185 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: we're banking on Illinois or the winner of Iowa Nebraska. 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 5: But still it's it's pretty remarkable to see how the 187 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 5: conference has adapted to NIL. Probably the best of college 188 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: college sports conferences at this point. 189 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 6: I'll say this, U c A. LA gave Yukon all 190 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: they could handle in that first half. Yeah, they tried. Hey, 191 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: they would try. 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: A couple of red asses there, Hurley and mc cronin, 193 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: and they know each other. 194 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: Grew up. 195 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 196 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: You see, the officials had a bullproof vests on. 197 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: No, yeah, did they really? 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, they wore some kevlar just with Mick Cronin Hurley, 199 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 5: you know, to be shooting at each other. 200 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 6: Huh. I mean it's pretty I mean it's pretty cool. 201 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 6: Cronin is the assistant head coach, right, Okay, well, the 202 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 6: assistant head coach of U c l A is like 203 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 6: really close with the hurleyes with both yeah, right, so 204 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 6: he knew both coaches. The head coach of coached what 205 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 6: seventeen or some years with the coaches with now at 206 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 6: U c l A, and then grew up on the 207 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: same She's yeah, I guess he played for a big Hurley, 208 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: the big big the senior Hurly so at what is 209 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 6: like Saint Joe's or something like that. Anyway, Uh, you know, 210 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 6: it is a lot. You know, you start to realize 211 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: how much March madness, how quickly it moves. It's a lot. 212 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: I got drunk on Saturday watching I went to a 213 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 6: joint called Rebel something that's down in the Riviera and 214 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 6: I sat out the bars, really ice bar, and them 215 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 6: Long Islands was flowing. 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they when I'm blowing. Yeah. 217 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 6: I opened it up and it was. But it's a 218 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 6: when you're watching it. It's so you got to try 219 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 6: to find a rhythm on how you watch the games 220 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 6: and kind of like consume it and feel good about 221 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 6: like how you watched it or what the experience was, 222 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 6: because it's like when I'm watching it at home, and 223 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 6: now that they have all them screens and you could 224 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: split it into all those screens, it's still kind of 225 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 6: hard to It's like, okay, this one right here, seems 226 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 6: like the Tennessee game was pretty dope, right. So I 227 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 6: started watching the Tennessee game with the sound and got 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 6: got into that a little bit more, But you're still 229 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 6: trying to pay attention to the other one. Da Da 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 6: Da Michigan State girls. Who were they playing? And I 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 6: think they into Oklahoma. They were playing Oklahoma. I was 232 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 6: watching that. They were banging, they were getting it on. 233 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 6: That was a really really competitive game. And then you 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 6: start to real that you're fighting the clock, right, like, oh, 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 6: I have to get up in a couple hours too. 236 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 6: So now you're fighting having to how do you watch 237 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: all of the games and still get adequate rest for 238 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 6: the next day. But nonetheless, I think I don't. I 239 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 6: don't recall being this into watching the games to this 240 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 6: detail for a while. So it's been kind of cool 241 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 6: kind of watching it and really like getting into it. 242 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 6: Like the Mullins kid from from Yukon, I was like, man, 243 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 6: I started looking him up. I was like, is this 244 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: Chris Mullins? Is this is his I didn't even know 245 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 6: if it was spelled the same. You know, it might 246 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 6: be Chris Mullen versus the kids. You know, maybe he 247 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: was Mullins, but I think it was the same name. 248 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 6: But anyway, his dad did play Division one, but it 249 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 6: wasn't Chris Mullin's kid. But the kid had handles and 250 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 6: was blowing people's faces off. I mean he could shoot 251 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 6: that long ball. Man, Like, you look like Chris Mullins 252 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 6: out there. I was wondering if they were related or something, 253 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 6: but then couldn't find anything. 254 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: That's it that there was a related. 255 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: Old Chris Mullen. Yeah, one of the uh, one of 256 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: the lefties back in the days Bad boy. 257 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Man, Saint John's great Chris mullen. Yeah, it was fun. 258 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: We can bring him back to Patino again. Huh okay, 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: all right, well look we're campaign and here you go. 260 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: I mean, got to get him back there in in Lexington. 261 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be mad at it if I saw it. 262 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be mad at Rick Patino back in Kentucky. 263 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 6: I just would be I would feel bad about the 264 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: potential of guys like Q being let down eventually, even 265 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 6: by one day. 266 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't care. I'd rather take a big spring for 267 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: the fence at this point, you. 268 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: Know, based on the ending, you know, years of John 269 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: Calipari and now Mark Pope. Just just bring back Rick 270 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: Pettino and the little magic that he's able to spread. 271 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 5: Speaking of Rick Patino, by the way, do you know 272 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: that every national championship Duke has won, they've had to 273 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: beat Saint John's to get there? 274 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: Uh? 275 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: Kind of wild and obviously that sets up well for 276 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen matchup coming up here about four days 277 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: as Duke takes on Saint John's once again. 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 280 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 281 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 282 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: Hi, this is Jay. 283 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 7: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 284 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 7: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 285 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 286 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 7: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 287 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 7: have the dumbest takes on sports magicible. Don't listen to 288 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 7: the show so it can get camps. 289 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Get him fool. 290 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeart Radio 291 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: app or wherever you get your podcast. 292 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 293 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys were aware of this, 294 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: but there was a huge, huge football event that took 295 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: place over the weekend. Oh my gosh, Flag Football Hike. 296 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: They it is taken over Utah. About who's who? You 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: get all these superstar players? You had, uh social media influencers. 298 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: Oh and you had the guys who are trying to 299 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: get to the Olympics for. 300 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. He was chippy though. 301 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 6: He was pushing cats out there though a little bit, 302 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 6: but he w wasn't like he wasn't about that action. 303 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody knows. Everybody knows. Can I just want 304 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: to ask the question, what was the point? Honestly? 305 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: What was was it just to send out a bunch 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: of viral clips of Hey man, obj still got it 307 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: to catch? 308 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: If he still had it, he'd be again. 309 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: It's just like when he was with the New York Giants, 310 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: but not at all. 311 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: If if he still if he still had it, he'd 312 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: be signed. Understand what. 313 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: I mean. It's not real football, but it's flag Yeah. 314 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: I'd be honest. Man, I feel like this is. 315 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: People are gonna take this the wrong way, so I've 316 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: got to be careful how I word this. I feel 317 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: like we're being oversaturated with versions of football that aren't football. 318 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this again. 319 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: We're being fed versions of football that are not football, 320 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: tackle football eleven on eleven where you can smack a dude, 321 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: where you can get smacked like, where there's an element 322 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: of physicality to it. You get knocked down, you got 323 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: to get back up like. That's the game that I 324 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: know and love, And so I'm not trying to take 325 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: away from what flag football is. I think for you know, 326 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: young kids who want to play boys, girls, whatever. And 327 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: I know we're making an Olympics sport. 328 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: I'm kind of confused why we wouldn't have tried to 329 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 5: go to tackle football. Maybe knowing on the Olympic committee 330 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: would want to have a sport where that the NFL 331 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 5: or excuse me, the United States would be so far 332 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: ahead and so far superior to everyone else they won't 333 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: even want to try it. So they feel like, maybe 334 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 5: there's a chance other countries would try flag football instead. 335 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: Whatever the selling point is, okay, it waters down, it. 336 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 4: Dilutes what real football is. 337 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: And I'm telling you, man, if if people could look 338 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 5: like twenty thirty years down the road, when you start 339 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 5: chipping away at what the real essence of the sport 340 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: is to these lesser versions, these seven on seven leagues, 341 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 5: these flag football leagues, and maybe you'll say it's one 342 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: of the same. Whatever it takes away from what the 343 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: actual sport really is in my opinion, and I think 344 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: you kind to confuse your fan base and you might 345 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: be dividing up some of that fan base too, Like like, 346 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: I'll be real, I can only consume so much football. 347 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: Like I love watching college I love watching NFL. I 348 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: love watching football during the season. I love watching bad 349 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: games and looking at prospects players getting ready. 350 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: For the draft. I'm not really in it for anything else. 351 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: Like I want to watch the highest stakes, the highest 352 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: levels at those levels you know collors in in the NFL, 353 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: and then I'm good, Like I don't need to see 354 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: another version of what someone's trying to be in pro 355 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: or what they're trying to do in flag or something 356 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: that's that's not applicable at all in my mind. 357 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: I'd rather go. 358 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: Watch basketball in March matters. I'd rather go watch baseball. 359 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: I'd rather go watch anything a golf and watch a guy, 360 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: you know blow you know, a putt in a playoff 361 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: in the Live Tour this past weekend, allow Bryceon to win. 362 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: Like I'm just being real and this is maybe just 363 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 5: me and maybe you you saynd like I'm a traditionalist. 364 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: But so be it. Call me guilty. 365 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you watch a lot of football though I don't. 366 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: And that's but that's the problem is, like I don't. 367 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: I didn't find anything about what that was, that whole 368 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 5: flag football thing other than that Raising Kine's guy who 369 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 5: now is everywhere and is sponsoring everything somehow is made 370 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: twenty two billion off of chicken fingers, Like that's the 371 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 5: only thing raising Kanes's sponsoring everything. 372 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: Is it good? Yeah, it's great warm, He's got a 373 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 4: great product. But it's like, outside of that, I'm not 374 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: really sure what the point was. 375 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: In some ways, I'm not. 376 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it's like a second life for Tom 377 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: Brady to keep playing football, even though it feels like 378 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 5: the quarterback position is asked to a lot more than 379 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: just drop back and throw, Like you got to be 380 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: able to move and dodge and dive. And obviously Bengals 381 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 5: fans are probably holding their breath while Joe Burrow's out 382 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 5: there and making spin moves and putting his acl risk. 383 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: It's just it's not for me, man, It's not. 384 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: I saw. 385 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 6: A commentary on how hard the NFL players were playing, 386 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 6: and the harsh criticism was that you saw them playing 387 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 6: crazy competitive, way harder than what you saw take place 388 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 6: in the Pro Bowl. And the question was asked, and 389 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: I agreed with it. I agreed that these guys were 390 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 6: they were out there, like I. 391 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: Told you guys. You was like, why's Tom Brady take? Like, 392 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: what's what's what Tom is? 393 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 6: Like? He's so serious, like he was really out there 394 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 6: on his timing, like he was in a real game, 395 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 6: and it was like those dudes were out there on 396 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 6: their timing like they were in a real game, and 397 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 6: I just wonder what. 398 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean. 399 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 6: I guess the point was made. Whatever the check was 400 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: that they were offered if they want one, was so 401 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 6: significant that they was really trying to win. 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: Now, while that. 403 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 6: Might sound true or be true for some I still 404 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 6: came to the conclusion, like we were joking about on text, threat, 405 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 6: like some of these guys are still living vicariously through 406 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 6: their prior accomplishments and accolades. 407 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: I don't think Tom Brady is. 408 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 6: I don't know that he has been able to let 409 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 6: go of that underdog that was coming out in the 410 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 6: draft and felt slight it going so late in the 411 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 6: draft or never was like legitimately at one year, you know, 412 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 6: the starter, Like he didn't solely have the starting position. 413 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: At least my last year of school he didn't have it. 414 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 6: And maybe he had it the neck no, because we 415 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: came out the same year. Yet, so he never was 416 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: a full time starter. So he has this underdog mentality 417 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: and I think he still chases the feeling that he 418 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 6: gets when he's on the field, and that's why he's 419 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 6: doing so many different things is because it's something that 420 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 6: he's searching for. That's what I get when I look 421 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 6: at him, because it's like, at some point it's like 422 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 6: Tom Brady, you're not fighting Jake Paul or Logan. You're 423 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 6: not fighting Logan Paul. You're not like, you're not going 424 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 6: to fight a dude. That's one. 425 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: Two. 426 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 6: You're not making it like he probably could, but you're 427 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 6: not making any comebacks to the NFL. So your playing 428 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 6: career is over, like playing on the on the field 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 6: is over. And and as far as like just being 430 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 6: Tom Brady, you're Tom Brady. Everybody knows who Tom Brady is. 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: You're You're revered, you're respected, You're considered by many to 432 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 6: be the greatest football player all the time. Like I 433 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 6: don't know, Like am I wrong for saying that? If 434 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 6: I were to look at the model citizen of somebody 435 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: who has accomplished at the highest of highest levels and 436 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: does it in a way where you just don't get 437 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 6: tired of him. For some strange reason, he just always 438 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: seems to hit it out of the ballpark in media and. 439 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: In content, it's Peyton Manning. We don't see Peyton. 440 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 6: Manning doing these these things just enough you get just enough, 441 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 6: it's not too overly saturated, even with Eli, who isn't 442 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: nowhere near close to them to but beat the guy 443 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 6: that beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowls that Tom 444 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 6: Brady lows to the Giants. 445 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: So there's that. 446 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 6: I just I just feel like with Tom he's dangerously 447 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 6: close to how he handles things and how he does 448 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: things where he actually might be turning people off to him. 449 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: That's just my take. 450 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: I look, whatever the personal motivations are, I don't know. 451 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: I mean, if I were him, like if I had that, 452 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: like I would disappear and you guys would never hear 453 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: from me again. Like I wouldn't be on social media, 454 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be Like there would be no contact, no nothing. 455 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 3: I'll go disappear with my family and I'm gone. Everybody 456 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: else can figure it out afterwards when it's all said 457 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: and done. Whatever his personal reasons are, and I don't 458 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: know exactly what that is to each their own from 459 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: a flag football standpoint, though I don't. It's it feels 460 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 3: like there's this real strong push towards it that I 461 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: don't really understand because I'm seeing some of the clips 462 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: as they pop up on social media because that's how 463 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: so much of it came in. And I looked at it, 464 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: I said, so, is this just all about having viral clips? 465 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: Like that's who this is for, for these short attention 466 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: span out there that they just want to throw. 467 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: Out viral media. 468 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: It is though, and the way that it's presented. I 469 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: think it was Jaden Dan Daniels. They say Jaydeen Daniels 470 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: went through this from one end zone all the way 471 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: to the other. 472 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: I think that's fifty yards. Like what do we like? 473 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: What are we talking about it? Why? 474 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: Why is why is this such a push, such an 475 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: embellishment to sell this whole thing to everybody. 476 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 5: I've got a conspiracy theory on us. 477 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: We need some music though I forgotten. 478 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh, I don't. 479 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 4: Know if you have any Robert Stack. 480 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 481 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: So to your point about the push behind this, Now 482 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: we know the Olympics are coming up, and that's that's 483 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 5: a porsche of this twenty twenty eight LA. You know, 484 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: flag football would be a part of it, so we 485 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: know that's part of the push. I mean, hell, we've 486 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 5: got you know, folks on Fox's broadcast team going forward 487 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 5: all that stuff. But I think part of it is 488 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: is if you looked at how the NBA, and some 489 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: people would say Lebron is still the face of the NBA. 490 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 5: I would argue and say he was at one point, 491 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 5: and then I. 492 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: Feel like Steph Curry kind of took over. 493 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: And the reason why I say Steph Curry took over, 494 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: And then when I look at the WNBA, what Kaitlin 495 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 5: Clark has done, what makes them relatable in a sense 496 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: is everyone's got the ability to shoot threes. 497 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: Now, maybe not as good as they. 498 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 5: Do, but they sure as heck are going to try 499 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: to attempt shots from the logo, shots from half quarter deep, 500 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: but not everyone's gonna be able to dunk. And that 501 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: was one of the reasons why in my mind, when 502 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: you looked at Steph Curry, who wasn't an Adonis like 503 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 5: Lebron or Shack for that matter. 504 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: You know, they. 505 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 5: Weren't someone that was like, well, that's just an unbelievable 506 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: freak athlete, like I'll never. 507 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: Be like him. 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 5: But if you can put up threes like that, all right, 509 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 5: like they're a more relatable superstar athlete. I think in 510 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: this sense, when you look at how they kind of 511 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 5: keep trying to push out these viral e clips and 512 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: all that. With flag football, everybody can play it. Everyone 513 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: can play, boys can play, girls can play. On top 514 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 5: of that whatever, there's no element of physicality where if 515 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 5: you're not big enough, I mean, look at the team, 516 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: that team USA, the one like those those aren't the biggest, 517 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 5: most physically imposing dudes, but yet they're still able to 518 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 5: go out there and compete with NFL stars and whoop 519 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: that ass in flag football. So it is a more 520 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: relatable sport to the general masses to get them involved 521 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 5: and then to have them play, And I think that's 522 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: more of the push behind it in an effort to 523 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: grow the sport. But again I go back to this, 524 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 5: that to me is what waters it down because you 525 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 5: create confusion amongst your fan base and so you've built 526 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: up this behemoth of the NFL. But there's a part 527 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: of me that goes, okay, are you scared about like 528 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: CTE coming out and a killing contact football? Like I 529 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: know there's less enrollment at younger ages a lot on 530 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: the West Coast, but even you know, all across the 531 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: country there's parents who I get asked all the time, 532 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 5: would you let your sons play tackle football? 533 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: And honestly, my response is always to them. 534 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely made them. Well that's why I made them. I 535 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: want to be a dad. 536 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: And that's your opinion with it, like like my my thought, 537 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: it's a little bit different. My thought is at a 538 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 5: young age, i'd rather teach them the right fundamentals and 539 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: technique because they're not big enough to really hurt each other, like. 540 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: You put in the proper pads and so forth. Like, 541 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: they're really not big enough to create the sort of 542 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: damage we're talking about. 543 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 1: Now. 544 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: Once they get older, that's different. 545 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: But by that point they've got the right fundamentals and 546 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: technique and hopefully they can avoid some of that. So 547 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: that's my take on it. But but but that's my conspiracy. 548 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: I think this is because it's relatable to everyone else 549 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: out there, boys, girls and what have you, and there's 550 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 5: not this dividing line of well, you're not tall enough 551 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: to play this, you're not fast enough, you're not big enough. 552 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: You don't see that as much. 553 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 6: Well that exposed I mean the fact that they did 554 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 6: lose the weight that they lost, that exposes some things 555 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 6: that if you add. 556 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: Okay, but here's here's the part that I think that 557 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: they failed on. Can you name one player from the 558 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: Flag Football team that won the tournament. 559 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: Speed, Yeah, do Set. That's it. I don't know. 560 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: All I know. 561 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: All I know is Logan, I show, Speed, Tom Brady, 562 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: and the usual suspect. So if this was to build 563 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: up the notoriety and the reputation of the Flag football team, 564 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: it failed because I don't know any of these guys. 565 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: I know du Set because he had comments to the 566 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: to the Washington Post a couple of years ago or 567 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: a year ago that we talked about on this show. 568 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: And that's it. 569 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: Other than that, you've got all of these superstar NFL 570 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: players and I don't know who any of these other 571 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: guys are. 572 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: I just think the beauty of it is that football, 573 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 6: real football, not flag, not seven on seven. Real football 574 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 6: exposes the fact that those people that we're speaking of 575 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: that you just can't be because genetically speaking, you just 576 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: if you're not that, you're just not that are offensive tackles, 577 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: offensive guards, centers, defensive tackles, most often defensive ends. You're 578 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: not going to be a trenchman if you don't have 579 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: it to be a trenchman. Now edges have changed a 580 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 6: little bit. You could be a normal kind of size 581 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 6: guy at edge, but not really, but those interior guys, 582 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 6: when you say games are one and lost in the trenches, 583 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: I think now you realize what that represents. I'm not 584 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 6: going to go as far as the venture offense saying 585 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 6: the rest is what it is, because obviously the lead 586 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 6: singer of the group is always the quarterback. 587 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: They're the lead singer. 588 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 6: But with that being said, you don't have a group 589 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 6: if you don't have the rest of those those guys performing. 590 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 6: And I think when I was watching that, I was like, yeah, 591 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 6: but I mean, the pass rush is like, you know, 592 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 6: it's like. 593 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: Count to three and pass rush. 594 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 6: It's like it's like the amount of time that you 595 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 6: take with your steps and what your drops and what 596 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 6: you're timing is what the pass rush is timed out 597 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 6: to be. In flag flag football, there is no blocking, 598 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 6: there is no chips, there are no you know what 599 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 6: I mean. 600 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: Like, just because you can shadow box doesn't mean you 601 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: can boxh Man. 602 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 6: Just because you can win in seven on seven or 603 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 6: flag doesn't mean you can win in real football. Everybody's 604 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 6: got a plan, everybody's got a strategy until you get 605 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 6: punched right in your mouth. 606 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: Then everything goes out the door. 607 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 608 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 609 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 610 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: Hey guys, remember Christian Willilkins. No, remember that guy? I 611 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: don't remember that name. 612 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: He was the. 613 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: Splits ye oh yeah yeah. 614 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 6: Okay, now that you say Splits, yeah yeah yeah. 615 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: Pretty good player. 616 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: But you know, there was that whole issue that happened 617 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: with the Raiders where some weird stuff went down, and 618 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: Jordan Renan, who covers the Giants for ESPN, was discussing 619 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: the situation with Wilkins. He basically said, what we've heard 620 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: from a lot of people that you know, there was 621 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: some weirdo stuff that was going on there, and whatever 622 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: he did with the Raiders, it's going to be tough 623 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: for him to come back from. And so we don't 624 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: know what that is. People have alluded to stuff. 625 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: We don't know. 626 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: If he was Goosen teammates in the shower, we don't. 627 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean, who the hell knows what's what was going 628 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: on there. But what was interesting is when that story 629 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: came out, people sort of started discussing it a little 630 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: bit on social Media's I was sort of a Oh yeah, 631 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: I remember that story. It happened last year before the season, 632 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: and you know, the season played out and people just 633 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: kind of forgot because he's recovering from head an injury 634 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: at the time and all that. To which Adam Schefter 635 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: or in this case, we'll call him Adam Mullagedtah posted 636 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: on x the following Adam free agent defensive tackle Christian 637 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: Wilkins fully intends to play this season, but still is 638 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: rehabbing his foot injury, per his agent, David Mullagedtta. So far, 639 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: twenty six teams have reached out and are waiting for 640 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: Wilkins to be ready, and Wilkins is expected to have 641 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: a new home as soon as he wants that according 642 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: to Adam Schefter, according to his agent David Mullagedta and 643 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: by his agent, I mean Christian Wilkins, And it basically 644 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: just reads as one of those, as Brady's pointed out, 645 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: and others have started to notice, and Mike Florio likes 646 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: to point out basically a copy and paste from whatever 647 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: the agent said to try and spin the narrative, because 648 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Renand from ESPN pointed out out that, hey, listen, 649 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: we don't think he's going to come back, like there's 650 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: there's some weirdo stuff that happened, and it would be 651 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: really difficult for a team to bring him in. But 652 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: according to Adam Schefter, twenty six teams have reached out 653 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: exactly twenty six for Christian Wilken services. Okay, so there's 654 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: your there's your update on Christian Wilkins. Has anybody heard 655 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: what the incident was that he might have might have transferred? 656 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: I have no idea. You don't know. Something tells me 657 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: you might. 658 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about this. Jerk face. 659 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: No, not at all, jerk face. You might just the 660 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: the idea that it's so. 661 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 4: What are you trying to get? What have you heard? 662 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: Because I feel like you're you're trying to like leaning 663 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 4: one way, like you've heard something. 664 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just what are you leaning on? 665 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: Hey? 666 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: There's just you see the highlights from Clemson and you 667 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 3: know he's reaching for stuff. 668 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: Uh what is he reaching for that? He's you know, 669 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: reaching for something from the. 670 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 5: Down just like like can you take me high? 671 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: Like he's going low? 672 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: And then you know the Josh Allen the highlight when 673 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: he was with the Dolphins and they you know, he 674 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: tackles Josh Allen, and Josh Allen kind of gets up 675 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: complaining because he might have reached under there and like 676 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 3: he was grabbing a bowling ball. 677 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: No, he was checking checking the oil, was he? 678 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, making sure that the oil level was what it 679 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 6: was supposed to say, I'll get mine soon, making sure 680 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 6: if the turkey is done, got to base that thing. 681 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 6: That's a good point, the idea that Schefter is not 682 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 6: even hiding it anymore, and maybe he doesn't have to 683 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 6: because of how how much control ESPN sort of has 684 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 6: over all this stuff. 685 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: But he doesn't even. 686 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: Hide this anymore, that he's getting this information and is 687 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: basically turned into. 688 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: A bit of a mouthpiece for some of these agents. 689 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 3: It's not even like not even trying to be discreet 690 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: about it. Literally a copy and paste from the agent 691 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: out in response to the rumors that were going around 692 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: about his client on social media. 693 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Are you offended by that? 694 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: That's just weird? What do we whatever happened to? You 695 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: report on stuff and that's it. There is no agenda. 696 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 3: You're not bought and paid for, you're reporting on things. 697 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: You're just reporting it. And that's why you know, Florio's 698 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: got a lot of there's things that Mike Florio does 699 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: that you know, can be a little off putting. You know, 700 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: he sort of spins, you know, when he's writing an article. 701 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, can we just get to the story, 702 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: not your lead in and you know, sarcasm to go 703 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: along with it. 704 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: But at least he. 705 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: Will call this stuff out. And it just feels like 706 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: nowadays there are more and more of these guys that 707 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 3: are basically just fed things from agents. It's pushed out 708 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: through the media so that they can spin their story 709 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: to try and make their client look better. Like the 710 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: idea that Christian Wilkins has got twenty six teams reaching 711 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: out to him, it's just not well, it's well, why 712 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 3: didn't accurate? Why why is he on a team? Why 713 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: isn't he on a roster? What happened last year? 714 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: That's more reaching than he was doing. 715 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: You know. 716 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 6: See, you guys know, I don't know anything. I don't 717 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: know what you're talking about. 718 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: I mean, did your agent when you were playing LeVar, 719 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 3: did your agent try to, you know, try and get 720 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 3: in the. 721 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 5: Way when you say that fast that word I think 722 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 5: you said when you're Asian. 723 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I did. 724 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: It sounds it sounded like that Coop. 725 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: Perked up for that. Yeah he did. No agent? Okay Asian. 726 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: That's interesting, LeVar. 727 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: When you were going through your fiasco with the then Redskins, okay, 728 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: did your agent, sorry, Coop, did he try and spin 729 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: the narrative, so to speak with the media, Try and 730 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: get your side of the story out there to just 731 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 3: to uh, I guess, create some sort of an alternative 732 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: story to whatever Little Danny and the and the Redskins 733 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: were trying to. 734 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: Push out there. They may have, they may have. I don't, 735 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't. 736 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 6: I recall at that point, I was fed up with 737 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 6: my agents, Like I felt like I felt like I 738 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 6: should not have been thrust it into a scenario that 739 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 6: would actually impact my career the way that it did 740 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: outside of my own the own merits of my performance. 741 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 6: And that's what happened, you know. I was I was 742 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 6: collateral damage to a situation that I really didn't have 743 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 6: anything to do with, you know, other than I said 744 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 6: what I wanted my numbers to be, and the contract 745 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: was negotiated, the contract was rushed based upon the whole 746 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 6: meeting the requirements of the timing for the CBA or 747 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 6: whatever it is that that not CBA for the salary 748 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 6: cap or. 749 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even remember. 750 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 6: It's been so long, but I just you know, it 751 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 6: was an interesting I'll say it was an interesting time. 752 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 6: It definitely was an interesting time for me, but it 753 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 6: was not the only way it played out in the 754 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 6: media for me was me basically keeping the focus on 755 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 6: our team and that was that's the truth. Like they 756 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 6: were like, why are you not playing? I'm not good enough. 757 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 6: I gotta get better. Like that was kind of the 758 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 6: narrative the whole time, and it played out but and 759 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 6: eventually I talked about it, but in it I don't 760 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 6: recall my agents. I don't recall and I don't think 761 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 6: I would have allowed them to do it like that 762 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 6: would have That would have been the final straw. If 763 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 6: you're out here trying to manipulate the narrative, that would 764 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 6: have probably been the final straw for me, because I 765 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 6: didn't like the way things went down to begin with. 766 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 6: Like if people make mistakes, they make mistakes, but I'm 767 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 6: not paying you to make that that type of mistake 768 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 6: where it impacts me the way that it did, So 769 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 6: you know, that's just kind of how the cookie crumbles sometime, 770 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 6: but yeah, I don't recall it being like my agents 771 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 6: were manipulating the media to be able to put out 772 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 6: a message that made me look favorable to the audience. 773 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 5: I don't know that they're manipulating the media. I think 774 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 5: they're just trying to, you know, use it as a tool. Yeah, 775 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 5: And that comes down to where I think the media 776 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 5: unfortunately has gotten, is there's you know, seldom somebody is 777 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 5: just objective. Like everyone's got their own biases and their own, 778 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 5: you know, reasons for making sure their business is good. 779 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 5: And part of Adam Schefter's business is making sure that 780 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: he has those relationships with all those agents. And in 781 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 5: order to have those relationships where he gets the first 782 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 5: crack at it over Ian Rapport or any other insider, 783 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 5: he's got to be the one that's going to be 784 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 5: able to speak kind of for them. So it's it's 785 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 5: kind of easy to see why it's set up the 786 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 5: way it is. It's just, you know, there's got to 787 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 5: be some level of you know, objectivity to it, or 788 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 5: there should be at least if you're a part of 789 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 5: the media, you know, some of the things you got 790 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 5: to kind of fact check and say, okay, let me 791 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 5: call around this twenty six teams or who are this 792 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 5: twenty six teams? Okay, cool, let me reach out as 793 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 5: I'm sure Adam Schefter has resources at every one of 794 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 5: those teams and say, hey, you guys probably Christian Wilkoms 795 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 5: Before I put something out there, I want to make 796 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 5: sure this is accurate and they say no, they're no. 797 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: So you know that that would be how you're supposed 798 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 5: to handle it, But I'm not even sure you're You know. 799 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 4: People care about that. For Adam Schefter, they just want news. 800 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 5: They want things that come out and then keep playing 801 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: up the news cycle. You know that That's how I 802 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 5: see it nowadays, Like we tend to want to grab 803 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 5: these headlines so there's something to talk about all the 804 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 5: time instead of anyone actually like researching this or finding 805 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 5: out if it's true. It's like, now we'll talk about 806 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 5: that tomorrow. Well, remember we talked about that yesterday. 807 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 808 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 5: Now we're talking about today and this is actually what happened. 809 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 5: Like that's the world we're living in. 810 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a new day and maybe one day some 811 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 3: of those some of those details will come out and 812 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 3: we'll get that. 813 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 814 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 3: Why the other six teams in the NFL are not 815 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 3: interested in Christian Wilkins.