WEBVTT - Mini Crush #168

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Everybody, and welcome to Mini Crush Monday with Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and Noel Brown. What does who I mean? Chuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a military thing? Like? When who are? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that just like an al pacino thing? Well? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it can be military and nature. I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thinking marines might have said it. That's what I find.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a marine thing. But you know, my brother in

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<v Speaker 1>law is a very high ranking marine, Noel, he is

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<v Speaker 1>one of us. Would you consider him elite? Was he

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<v Speaker 1>an elite marine? He is? He's one of eighteen three

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<v Speaker 1>star generals in the Marine Corps. And uh, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's almost at the tippy top. And then it goes

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked this up recently. That's why I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>know these stats because we were like, jeez, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if he's going to make it to four star and

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<v Speaker 1>be at the very tippy top. And we're like, surely

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<v Speaker 1>he will. But eighteen make three star, three make four star,

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<v Speaker 1>so fifteen super tippy top marines get told no. So

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<v Speaker 1>you never know no, So you like you what you say?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a forester to apply or or

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<v Speaker 1>do someone just like awarded to you based on It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's weird. It's like any other job

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<v Speaker 1>management system, like you get promotions and raises based on

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<v Speaker 1>tenure and uh, I mean in that way, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>any job. But yeah, he you will. I think eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you will be up for that promotion like under consideration,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you either get it or you don't, and

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<v Speaker 1>you progress in your career or you don't. Interesting. It

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. But he's been my and my family since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little ten or eleven years old, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I started dating my sister in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's like my brother. But anyway, the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>say that is I know that er it was a

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps thing, not even the Hua it went down

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<v Speaker 1>to er. Okay, it's just sound and a noise thing

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<v Speaker 1>they make. I don't know what it means. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably former Marines out there listening and laughing at

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<v Speaker 1>me right now because right in, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>Pacino comes into it except for that movie. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I just think of it in his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that sent of a woman. Yeah, I never

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<v Speaker 1>saw that believe it or not. It's fine. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>do the voice? You do a decent machino, right, he

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<v Speaker 1>got a great that's a good one. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>really got to kick out of our herd zg Christoft

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<v Speaker 1>Waltz and that we had Christoph Walts is on point.

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<v Speaker 1>My dude, I'm serious. I was blown away. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not expecting. I want them to do a buddy movie

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<v Speaker 1>together all of a sudden. That's a great idea. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great idea because they both have those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fun accents. But one is, you know, Christoph Waltz

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<v Speaker 1>is so jaunpty and then you've got Hertzog, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just so dire. I don't know who that was, say

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<v Speaker 1>so dire, so die. Yeah, I think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun combination. Put them in a buddy yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>road movie. Yeah, I think that makes sense because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because Christoph Walts is sort of the more upbeat nihilist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and uh and and her is the really

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<v Speaker 1>like in the fucking Weeds nihilist, you know. But between

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah, well, because Christoph Walts would be like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, we could just kill them all, and Vernon

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<v Speaker 1>Hurtzog would be like it is inevitable. Yeah, exactly. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>now this is this is a themed episode? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped this on you. Do you have a guess?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, a themed episode? No? Is it? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>date related? Seasonal? It's nothing related to anything? How could

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<v Speaker 1>I how could I possibly guess? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought you might pay attention and see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on the movie crush page. Oh I see, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I scroll. I gotta say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do Facebook nearly as much as I used to. Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>is good, but uh no, this is a tribute to

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<v Speaker 1>the movie trailer. I love a movie trailer. Maybe Mike

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<v Speaker 1>can put together some special music and drop it right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be fabulous. Mike, you did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. All right, how about that there was the music?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Mike. By the way, everyone, we need to welcome Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think I've mentioned on the show yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a new producer. I'm just getting shuttled around

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<v Speaker 1>the company like stop yesterday's garbage datted around like a

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<v Speaker 1>ball of string once and now. But welcome Mike. Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job, and uh, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Mike in person. Mike is a lovely guy, really

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<v Speaker 1>talented musician, great producer, fabulous NPR background, and uh he

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<v Speaker 1>joined my team recently, um, working on some other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it made sense to bring him into this show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used you know, now that I saw the picture

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<v Speaker 1>of him, I was like, Oh, that's Mike. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Mike around the office. Mike also is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the founders of an incredible Atlanta based literary event, long

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<v Speaker 1>running literary event with another guy named Nick Takowski, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a talented writer who has written podcast stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>US UM for the show Tomorrow's Monsters starring John Boyega

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<v Speaker 1>drop um. But Mike and Nick started this thing called

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<v Speaker 1>Right Club, UM like fight Club, but right where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a pub literary slam kind of event where to

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<v Speaker 1>writers kind of go up and do pieces, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one after the other with a timer, UM and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick often m see them and they're very clever

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<v Speaker 1>and keep it moving. And then with audience applause, you

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<v Speaker 1>determine who wins, and then there's like a brackety situation

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<v Speaker 1>where the winner of that one goes up against the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of the other winner. Uh. And there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun and really really really talented writer and lovely person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's welcome and all. You know, we should plug Tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 1>Monsters too, because that is former guest Dan Bush uh

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<v Speaker 1>and once it will be future guest again. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have Dan back. But Dan did a scripted fiction uh

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<v Speaker 1>series for us called Tomorrow's Monsters starring John Boyega, which

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<v Speaker 1>which was a great get and I believe that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're already trying to get that thing option for for

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<v Speaker 1>TV or film, right absolutely, that's amazing, so cool. Way

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<v Speaker 1>to go, Dan, give it a shot. Everybody is that

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<v Speaker 1>three three D audio or is it just reg it's

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<v Speaker 1>just regular? Okay, all right, nol So let's get it

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<v Speaker 1>go in here. Uh. The first thing I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>is give a brief overview of movie trailers and what

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<v Speaker 1>they are in their history, and on movie Crush, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to do what I don't get to do on

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know, which is basically just do the

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia thing. We've never done that on stuff you should know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why it's still the only thing that bugs

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<v Speaker 1>me about our reviews. And I don't really don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about reviews at this point, and I never really did.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I see reviews that say two goods just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking read Wikipedia pages, that burns me up because we've

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<v Speaker 1>never used Wikipedia, not even as a source, much less

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<v Speaker 1>just reading the page. At least, no on your reviews

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<v Speaker 1>calling you a cock. So you called a cook just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the conspiracy thing. There's just so many people

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<v Speaker 1>that are just like, it's an interesting crowd, so it

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<v Speaker 1>rubs you. The rubs people the wrong way when we

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<v Speaker 1>even get remotely political about anything. But it's like, in

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age, how can you not somewhat talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these kinds of you know what I mean? So

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<v Speaker 1>we sort of we pissed some people off. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know why is it called a trailer? I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you got I know you'll get there, chuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first thing out of is uh. They used

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<v Speaker 1>to be shown after the movie. They used to trail

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, and that's why they were called trailers right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they learned pretty quickly that no one gave a

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<v Speaker 1>ship and didn't stick around, and so they said maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should frontload these things. And so then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, they used to have uh, cartoons

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<v Speaker 1>and newsreels and stuff like that before movies, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was all a part of it. So they just started

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<v Speaker 1>including the trailer at the front loaded bit of the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>which is of course what they still do today. It

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<v Speaker 1>says here that the very first trailer was in November

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<v Speaker 1>nine when an advertising manager for the low theater chain,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Lowe, produced a short promotional film for the movie

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<v Speaker 1>The Pleasure Seekers. So the very first I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was on Broadway, but the very first movie trailer was

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<v Speaker 1>The Pleasure Seekers. So if anyone ever asked you a

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<v Speaker 1>triviae question, you can keep that in your hip pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that about a bunch of sex addicts? Uh? Doubt it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not in uh. And it says here that they called

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<v Speaker 1>it in the newspaper The Nebraska Daily Star. They called

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<v Speaker 1>it an entirely new and unique stunt, and that moving

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of the rehearsals and other incidents connected with the

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<v Speaker 1>production will be sent out in advance of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>to be presented at Loews Picture Houses and will take

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<v Speaker 1>the place of much of the billboard advertising. So that

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<v Speaker 1>this they thought they were going to do away with billboards,

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<v Speaker 1>which they of course did not do. You don't see

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot outside of Los Angeles a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally it's but you're right, it is very l a

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<v Speaker 1>centric thing and and largely seeming to be like almost

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<v Speaker 1>industry facing, you know, or for like awards season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely there's some ego involved to have your movie

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<v Speaker 1>on the big billboard there on the sunset strip. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>now that's that's not to say that New York is

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<v Speaker 1>another big one. First with subway ads. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>see him in subways a lot in New York. True,

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<v Speaker 1>that is very true. Uh. It also says until the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen fifties, UM trailers were mostly uh done by

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<v Speaker 1>the National Screen Service, and it basically just pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>some some key scenes with big large text with music.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those early trailers were a little bit rough. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see those old trailers. In the sixties, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different because they got rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>text and started doing these montages instead of just like

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<v Speaker 1>a scene from a movie, and started editing these things together.

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<v Speaker 1>And this basically the sixties was when we saw the

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<v Speaker 1>birth of what we kind of know as the movie

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<v Speaker 1>trailer today. Uh. In ninety three they started showing them online.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in the early days of the internet, going

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<v Speaker 1>to Apple movie trailers every week to watch those movie

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<v Speaker 1>trailers because I loved because that was a good thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that sort of fell by the wayside a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit didn't now sort of because YouTube came along, I

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<v Speaker 1>think and kind of just took over because if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch any movie trailer, you can just type

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<v Speaker 1>it into YouTube. But I used to love going to

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<v Speaker 1>Apple movie trailers. That was a regular thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'd just see him pop up shared, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Instagram stories are like Facebook post, people just

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<v Speaker 1>like share it when any trailer comes out. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't go like trolling form every week. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little ritual. I did the same thing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There are dozens of companies down the United States that

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<v Speaker 1>make movie trailers, course based in New York and l

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<v Speaker 1>A mainly, and uh, there's sort of like many ad

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<v Speaker 1>agencies as almost, and a lot of times they're working

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<v Speaker 1>from the the dailies, like they're they're cutting these things

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<v Speaker 1>together before the movie is even finished. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you will see scenes and bits that don't make

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<v Speaker 1>it into the final film they're in the trailer, which

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<v Speaker 1>can be confusing. Yeah, I mean, it really is an art,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing worse than I mean, I'm sure there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people say this all the time, there's nothing worse than

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<v Speaker 1>a movie trailer that like spoils the movie, um, which

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<v Speaker 1>which can happen? I don't know. That's why I say

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<v Speaker 1>there's an art. I think there's like and there's also

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<v Speaker 1>like there's the long form trailer, and there's like the

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<v Speaker 1>teaser trailer, which is you're going to get into. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I like a good teaser. Uh. And you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>times they can use that to their advantage and all

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<v Speaker 1>they can they can true, if you have like one

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<v Speaker 1>person in your movie that's a big star that's in

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<v Speaker 1>like one scene, they might play that up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more and then you'll get in there and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not even in the movie. So uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a part of the fabric of going to

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. There's like twenty minutes of that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the big, big movies and now nol as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the big, big, highly anticipated trailers, some people might

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<v Speaker 1>even buy a ticket to a movie just to see

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<v Speaker 1>that trailer, like the New Star Wars trailer or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>because they know it's going to be front loaded at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of whatever big Tin Bowl movie is out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And that's usually like the exclusive where you

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<v Speaker 1>see it there in the theater for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>before even they like put it on TV or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, which is really interesting. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>notion of someone buying a ticket to a movie just

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<v Speaker 1>to see that trailer. I mean, I would think they

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<v Speaker 1>would stay for the movie, but you never know, people

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<v Speaker 1>might even leave Noel, which is very strange. Hmm yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very weird. But I had a couple of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I posted the movie Crushers on the trailer Front and

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<v Speaker 1>they really got into it. The first one is very simple, Noll,

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<v Speaker 1>what is one movie trailer that you will never forget seeing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness Blair Blair, Which is a good one

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<v Speaker 1>for me because and we've talked about the great viral

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<v Speaker 1>campaign they did leading up to that movie. I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget that movie trailer because it just uh enthralled me

0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.199
<v Speaker 1>because I was tricked. I was just like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a real is it not? So? I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>even the night that I saw that trailer, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have one? I can't think of a trailer like that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that really blew blew me out of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wish I could. I'm gonna think about

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<v Speaker 1>it as I hear some more from from the from

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<v Speaker 1>the Crushers. I'm sure some of these will will trigger

0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.959
<v Speaker 1>you in a good way. Joe bomb Gardner says Jurassic

0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Park an adventure sixty million years in the a King.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he was fresh off reading the book as

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<v Speaker 1>a young teen and seeing the ripples in the water

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<v Speaker 1>glass blew my mind. I was gonna say that one actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't remember what about it was memorable to me,

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<v Speaker 1>But that is I definitely distinctly remember that part in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer. You know how they did that water glass trick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people know this by now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. Well, they wanted the perfect center out ripple,

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<v Speaker 1>as if it's coming from the center, and they they

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<v Speaker 1>had a guitar string at the bottom of that glass,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were plucking a guitar string. When you say

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the glass, you mean some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like like vibrating through the surface that it was, well,

0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they strung it through the bottom of the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they got they built a special glass with

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<v Speaker 1>a guitar string through the bottom of the glass as

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<v Speaker 1>if it was you know, strung guitar. I see like vertically,

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<v Speaker 1>not horizontally vertical, like like attached on the top and

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<v Speaker 1>then pulled taught from the bottom and plucked. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense because that's exactly that makes I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that, chuck, And that's fascinating that that that

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what the fact would do. I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's right. This is all from memory. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I got it wrong, I'm sorry. But that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool. And it also makes you think like

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<v Speaker 1>if they experimented with different string gages and like, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they really wanted the perfect thing for that

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<v Speaker 1>shot because it was such an iconic shot. Um. Linda Baccaleo,

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<v Speaker 1>one of our friends, says, easy, thank you for asking

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<v Speaker 1>the Watchmen before one of the Batman movies, Deep Cut

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<v Speaker 1>Smashing Pumpkin Song is the music definitely helped because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as that came on, all of my senses perked

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<v Speaker 1>up and I became immediately entranced with the entire thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, especially if you're a Watchman fan, to see

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<v Speaker 1>that come to life. I remember that trailer it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big deal. Yeah it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Eric as Sims says, Lord of the Rings. My sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old brain was very ready to nerd out on

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<v Speaker 1>a well made version of a well of book series. Uh. Also, also,

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<v Speaker 1>I was horny and there's some hot guys in it,

0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't yet know what to do with that energy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw this in the theater five times. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very cute, Carrie Stones has Transformers transported me back in

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<v Speaker 1>time to my childhood, even though it was only a

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<v Speaker 1>black screen and a voice. Yeah, that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>movie for a lot of people. I mean, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>very good, But I mean, were you too old for

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff? Or was that in your alley? No? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that kind of that kind of passed me by.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it really when you were a kid? I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't Maybe it was before your time? Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see another Jurassic Park Tony Cox is the Matrix?

0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that one? The Matrix is one that

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing the poster for that it was coming

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought it looked really interesting. But I so again,

0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a distinct memory for like, oh, I'm so

0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.000
<v Speaker 1>excited about the Matrix because of the trailer. Ny says,

0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it was fourteen watching TV in my bedroom. The trailer

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<v Speaker 1>came on. It was so different to anything else i'd seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Ran out of the living room and said, Mom, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I found a movie we'll all enjoy. It looks amazing. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that one because it did look different. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I remember seeing that that scrolling green stuff, that

0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.040
<v Speaker 1>code that looked cool, and that got me sort of

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<v Speaker 1>right out of the gate. And that was really the

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<v Speaker 1>first use of that kind of three sixty bullet time effect,

0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. That really was created that for that movie,

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and it got done to death and kind of went away.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, people don't even do that anymore much,

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<v Speaker 1>do they. It's well, it's something that Zack Snyder is

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<v Speaker 1>quite fond of. He still does it. I mean, not

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<v Speaker 1>the three sixty spin, but just like the hyper slow

0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.199
<v Speaker 1>mo bullet time, they're they're sort of I'm sort of

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<v Speaker 1>combining two tropes. Because the thing that in the Matrix

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<v Speaker 1>that was very specific was the spin around where they

0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>have like a ring of cameras that we're all filming.

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<v Speaker 1>That technology is so cool. It was so cool and

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<v Speaker 1>but the thing is like, once you've seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>the Matrix, then you see in other places it almost

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<v Speaker 1>starts to feel a little hackney and kind of cliche.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I rewatched The Matrix recently and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a victim of its own genius by it looking a

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<v Speaker 1>little dated now because of that effect. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that they're the ones who did it, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I still think it looks good, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>just my take. Yeah, total, have you seen the new trailers?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of trailers for Army of the Dead in Zack Snyder? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? No, no, no, I don't know what

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it is? This like another like it just dropped. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a New Dead movie and uh it's Evil Dead or

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<v Speaker 1>like like Dead series but has Tig Nataro in it

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<v Speaker 1>as as a toughie and the it's a heist zombie movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea is that there's this money in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>after the zombie apocalypse that this elite team is of

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<v Speaker 1>like former soldiers, has to go get and then fight

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<v Speaker 1>off an army of zombies to get it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like seeing her do that. She's happy, great for it. Man, Like,

0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.680
<v Speaker 1>she has a really good look for that movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of she's all like loaded down with like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a bandalro type, you know, like gun cartridges.

0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 1>What do you call those looks? Very cool? Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the word. That's the word, gun cartridges. I'm clearly not

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a gun person. Clearly more of a video game person

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<v Speaker 1>than a gun person. Uh. Steve Rothogg says the teaser

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<v Speaker 1>for clover Field, that one definitely sold some movie tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>even without saying the title of the movie. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. That was a brilliant campaign. I do agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Pollutzi says the Force awakens after the disappointing prequels,

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<v Speaker 1>this felt more like the original trilogy. Totally. Yep. That

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<v Speaker 1>one gave me chills. Actually, oh boy, I remember this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Dodgers says the original Alien was nine or ten.

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 1>That teaser came out airing on TV. It scared me

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<v Speaker 1>so much. O't run out of the room. Yeah in space,

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 1>no one can hear you scream. One of the great taglines.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've talked about that, Chuck. That's one that

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<v Speaker 1>just exists so singularly that I never even associated with

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. I always thought it was from like a

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<v Speaker 1>old episode of the Twilight Zone, like something that had

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<v Speaker 1>just been around forever. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great tag

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder who wrote that. It's such an art form,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to write a good tagline. Totally. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see Katie Howard clar says Cliffhanger, that awful Stallone movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was twelve when the combination of music and heights

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<v Speaker 1>still gives me sweaty palms. I never saw that, did you. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's that's one of those movies that it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. I don't think it pretended to

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<v Speaker 1>be high art or anything. Absolutely, but I'm surprised I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it. Mcmcdonnod says, there will be blood. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've ever been more excited to see a

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<v Speaker 1>movie after the trailer. That's a good point, because it

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<v Speaker 1>had that really a testing Johnny Greenwood choppy like you know,

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>strings in it, beauty shots and no man so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great trailer. It was also one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones where you're like, I don't quite know what this

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<v Speaker 1>is about, but you knew there was some oil involved

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and it was just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of tense faces and very very well. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was Paul Thomas Anderson. If you were already a fan

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 1>of him, seeing him dive into a completely different world,

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>then you had seen him working before this this period.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been his first period piece, which now

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of is his bread and butter. But that's exactly

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>what that was, wasn't Yeah, totally. I can't wait for

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.879
<v Speaker 1>his new movie. What is it? What do you know

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>about it? He's going back to the seventies, I think

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<v Speaker 1>with um. I think it's a movie about a former

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<v Speaker 1>child star actor or something in the valley. I think

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he's going back to his roots a bit. It looks great. Oh,

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>here's a player with the project, Matthew Fober memorable one.

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<v Speaker 1>Since it was at the time, we didn't realize it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really y. Yeah, there wasn't really any precedent for

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of found footage movie. Boy, those guys turned

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>out to be not great filmmakers. Though, what else did

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they did they do? And I know there was that

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<v Speaker 1>second Blair Witch, but I didn't think they had anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it, did they? That was our old

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>pal Joe Berlinger. The documentary filmmaker who I had on

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<v Speaker 1>movie Crush, who did the Ted Bundy movie with Zac Efron.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know what his claims to shame that he

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<v Speaker 1>laughs about now is he made that second Blair Witch

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<v Speaker 1>movie and he's a great filmmaker. And he talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about why it stunk and how they took

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it away from him and he didn't get to do

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<v Speaker 1>the movie he wanted to do. And a lot of

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.199
<v Speaker 1>times you hear that and you think, yeah, whatever, But

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<v Speaker 1>I totally believe Joe because he's a really good filmmaker. Absolutely, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, I there were things about that

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>movie that I liked when I was young. I did

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>rewatch it more recently and it is quite quite quite bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say, yeah, I saw the Book of Shadows

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing in the theaters when I was younger. Yeah.

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I told Joe I didn't see it, and he was like, good, don't.

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Justin Ratliffe says the Shining, Timothy Hendrick says Joker. Yeah,

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Joker was a really good trailer. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>simple to write, it didn't give away ship. It was

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<v Speaker 1>almost Oh. There's also the thing that there's a style

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>of trailer where it's like it's its own I guess

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that is the teaser where it's very much its own thing,

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>where they've shot something that really doesn't exist anywhere else

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<v Speaker 1>outside this little trailer, you know. Troy Nolan says Independence Day.

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<v Speaker 1>So does cat Haven's Witten, and Troy says, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it debut during the Super Bowl one year, and I

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>remember thinking, holy shit, that looks awesome. But it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to be kind of corny. I didn't really like

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<v Speaker 1>that movie much, did you. Oh? I loved it. I

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>loved it when I was a kid, But I think again,

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's an age thing. You know, you were probably the

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>right perfect age. I was just the right age. I

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. I very much enjoyed it.

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll finish up this movie. Trailer you're never

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna forget seeing with Ivy Hutchinson, Hutchinson saying Fury Road.

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I remember seeing that trailer, dude, and I

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>was just absolutely I was so just put it in

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>my neck, man, and it was great. It lived up

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to it. I think I saw that three times in

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the theater, dude. I did at least see it twice

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>in the theater. That one was just an absolute just treasure.

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And I don't do that anymore. I don't go see

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>movies more than once in the theater because my time

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>is so limited for for movie going. But I did

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was worth it. Yeah, I do it. You know,

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be a real hum dinger, as Lucy

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>all Ball would say, hum dinger, all right now, and

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna move on to this what And this

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>is sort of along the same lines as those movie

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>trailers that that might pump up one character who's not

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>even in it. What movie trailer totally misled you, because

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that can happen in terms of a twist, well, in

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>terms of a lot of stuff. And I think the

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 1>crushers get it because this is sort of I've been

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>reading through these they sort of encapsulate the different ways

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in which you can be misled. Ian Bowers's Drive. It

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>marketed itself like a fast and furious clone. Yeah yah

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>ya ya, yeah uh And it was not that. No,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it was not that. And and and sometimes that can absolutely backfire, right,

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it can like like that movie Mother

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>for example, which was then seen that I fucking loved it. Um.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It is a difficult movie. It is what many would

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>probably consider very art cy and pretentious, but I just

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>found it very arresting and it like really took my

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>breath away, literally, and it's just it goes places that

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not expecting and it really goes their heart. But

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it was marketed like a thriller, right, and it is

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>not that at all. It is a high art very

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>um what's the word, almost like a like a parable

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like where like an allegorical kind of thing where there's

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 1>stock characters that represent different things. It is not what

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it looked like at all. Mother, And it pissed people

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>off because it was looking like, oh, from the creator

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of this other kind of edgy movie Dream or whatever,

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Requiem for a Dream comes Mother, an exercise and Terror

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>more or less interesting. It's just one of those movies.

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I never got around to you. Yeah, I recommend it.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh Adam had Dad says the trailer for the first

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Suicide Squad. Whoever edited that should totally be the go

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>to trailer editor for all movies because it looked like

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be awesome and it was a horrible mess. Yeah,

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Suicide Squad look great in that trailer. I didn't see

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the movie though. It's such a fun concept and the

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>characters are neat. I I hold out hope for the

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>new one, um, because yeah, there there's something there, but

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that one just it was just a mess. It was

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like it felt like it was made by committee and

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that like they had to have rush a bunch of

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>things and make things into montages that were never meant

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to be and just like like it just covered it

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>with music because clearly they were using that to cover

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>edits and time jumps and things. It was just, you know,

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>very clearly a real mess. Uh. One of our oldest friends,

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Minal Data says and I la san poorly marketed as

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>an action movie, but luckily I ended up loving it

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 1>as another sci fi hit from Alex Garland. I loved Annihilation.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was killer. I thought it was fantastic,

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and anything Alex Garland does I'm down for. Yeah, that's

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a multi part thing though the books, right, Annihilation, that's

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>one part of several part book series, if I'm not mistaken, um.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think the movie maybe didn't do well enough

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to justify making more. Probably I don't think it was

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a big hit, and I think it was a bit

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 1>of miss marketing. I don't think I think it did

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>look like sort of like Predator or something. And it's

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>not that it's not. It's another one that gets very

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>high art and surreal. But I thought one things I

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>lead about that movie was the set design and like

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>all of the like weird fungus kind of textures and stuff. Yeah,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.239
<v Speaker 1>it was really. Here's the thing though, man, if you

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>know your filmmakers, Like if you're just a regular sort

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of average movie goer who doesn't pay attention that much

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to filmmakers and stuff, you might get full. But if

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, like who Alex Garland is or who was

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it that did drive um oh oh, Nicholas winding Refin. Yeah,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know, he's not going to make a fast

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and furious movie. Uh so you should be suspicious of

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>those trailers, you know what I mean? Right, you know,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree. But that's the thing though. Those trailers are

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>designed to trick the Norman's you know, and and the

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>But to me, that's why it'll backfire, because then of

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>course they're going to shoot all over because it does

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>not She's going to go down and furious. Jordan Wang

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>says every movie trailer is misleading by the very nature

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of what advertisers are trying to do. I don't know

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>if I agree with that. Jordan's um, they're trying to

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>sell a movie, and I don't I think sometimes they

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they have to mislead. But I don't

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>think every movie trailer is misleading, do you, No, I

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think, like I said this, We've

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>been talking about this whole time. I think some of

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>them do it justice. It's an art to it because

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to spoil it, you don't want to mislead,

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to bore people either. So there's

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like you really had enough fine line between all those things,

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>all right. But Jordan does say Cabin in the Woods

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was one of the most egregious of these. I think

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that was purposeful. I think they wanted to sort of

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>hould wink you for Cabin in the Woods because you

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>can't you can't give away anything in that trailer because

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is about that twist is the thing? Right. Yeah.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw that again not too long ago, and it's

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a very fun movie. It really truly is. David Rumor

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.959
<v Speaker 1>says Overlord seemed like a badass to a World War

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>two movie. Sure, Yeah, they didn't show a lot of

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the horror movie imagery in the trailer. Did you see Overlord?

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I did see if that's the Nazi

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>movie that kind of pivots right, It's it's sort of

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like starts out one way and then like all of

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it's this other thing. Yeah, I don't know

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>about loved it. I quite enjoyed it, though. Jonathan Cooley says,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Scream totally thrown off by Drew

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Barrymore not being the lead. Well, that was very much

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>purposeful too, pulled the rug out from underneath you. Yeah,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's obviously a nod to Janet Lee, you know,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>being bumped off in Psycho so quickly being a big star.

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Spoilers Noel for Psycho. I'm just kidding, boy, that was

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>an eye roll and a half that I just got.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, it's just I've get to get yelled at

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>for spoilers. But I think there should be a statute

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of limitations. Here's what I haven't seen yet and a

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>shresths one of our old friends says the Art of

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Self Defense trailer looked like a fun black comedy with

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Eisenberg. It was a really fucking dark, weird and

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>disturbing film. I didn't see that. I think because of

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the trailer. I can see either. I need to check

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that out. It's supposed to be good. A Lisa Adams says,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Silver Linings Playbook trailer made it seem way more of

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a comedy than it was. I liked it, but it

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was not what I expected. Yeah, I could agree with that.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh here we go, No with the Mother the good,

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>David Gooch, This trailer made it look like a psychological

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>horror thriller. Instead, it was a weird dream like Bible parable.

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>You said it, Yeah, I did, I did. I gotta

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>see that movie. Why do people hate it because of

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of it is because of

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the feeling mislead. I believe, you know, if you go

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>into something expecting one thing and then you get something

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the polar opposite, you're gonna be You're gonna feel, you know,

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.239
<v Speaker 1>manipulated in some way. I think, Well, Jonathan Cooley when

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a world friend says, uh, David Gooch, I hated this

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>almost as much as I hated Midsummer Interesting and coolly

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>rewatched Midsummer and hated it. More just wasn't for him

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that happens. I want to rewatch Midsummer I have not

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>done so yet. You saw the first one first time,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it, but I really want to

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>rewatch it as well. I recommended I liked it better

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the second time. Kate kittleson Marley and Me unbelievable bait

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and switch. I would not have watched it if I

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>knew the truth going in, because it's sad times, right. Yeah,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Emily and I watched Marley and Me until the scene

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, we're big, big dog people, and we

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>watched the scene until um it was like, Mommy, why

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>are Marley's legs buckling? And then turned it off and went,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>well that was good. Yeah, we certainly enjoyed the first

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>hour of that movie. Animal sads are the most triggering

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of sads. Yeah, Animal and kids SAIDs I can't do

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that kids stuff, man give me like uh Florida project

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>or Beasts of the Southern wild Man. That stuff just

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>rerects me. Hmm. Hans Bronzel says Hereditary remember seeing the trailer,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>not being interested enough to see it in theaters. Fast

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>forward about a year. I picked it up on Blue

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Ray to flea market for cheap and I tried out

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Mother of God. That movie twisted my stomach around so

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>much I couldn't finish it until the next day. One

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite horror movies. I actually think the trailer

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>was really successful. It made really good use of that sound,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and he used it to ratchet up the tension, and

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you see her do it once, and you keep hearing it,

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and they keep adding reverb to it, and it gets

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like just more and more weird and kind of like

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>trippy sounding. Um. I thought that was a very good trailer. Actually,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you too? Robbie Pools is the Matrix fooled

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>him because he thought it was some alien invasion, superheroes

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>save the World thing going on. Yeah, I guess you

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>could see how that could have been. You could be

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>misled by that. Jason Lewis's Gods Lewis's Kong, I expected

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a bit more in the beginning. It felt like it

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>was trying to hide them in plain sight. Compared to

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the trailer. I don't understand. How can you be confused

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>about what that movie is going to be about? Like, well,

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's I don't know, he just says a

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He says he feels like that they

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>were trying to hide the monsters too much in the movie.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I thought they were like just trotting them out.

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>They were like, I mean, it was really the focus

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of the movie for me, um in a way that

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was very self aware, and I appreciate it. You know,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of big monster bashes. I can't wait,

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about it, Wendy White's Shawshank Redemption. I totally

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>had no idea what the movie was about, and I

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>hadn't read the book yet. M hmm. Yeah, I mean,

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I I don't remember what the trailer was, like, it's

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>been too long, but obviously love that movie. Sam Comber

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>says a trailer to adventure Land made it seem like

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>super Bad and an amusement park, and it very very

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>ain't that. I really enjoyed adventure Land. Did you see

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that movie? I did. It's a very sweet, kind of

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>coming of age type thing, almost right. I loved it. Yeah,

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really good and very underseen. Yeah,

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>exactly one of Kristen Stewart's lesser known but I think

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>better performances. In my mind. I was just like, is

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Kristin Stewart in that she is isn't her? And Jesse

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Eisenberg it absolutely is not. Yes, it is Okay, I

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>was losing it, Yeah she was. She was really good

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>in that. Maybe that's why I don't remember. Ryan Reynolds

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>was in at Martin Starr, Bill Hayter and Kristen Wegg.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Where the Yeah, Where the Bosses. It was a really

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>good movie. M all right, Let's do a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>more here. Eternal Sunshine from Leam Butler trailer head Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sky playing all the way through was really a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>The trailer played at as a very typical Jim Carrey comedy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that happens a lot, especially when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a Jim Carrey doing something large different. They're gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>we got we we got Jim Carey. We can't squander

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<v Speaker 1>this Jim Carey opportunity. Totally, totally, totally Uh. Former and

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<v Speaker 1>future guest Cole Stratton, one of our old pals, who

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<v Speaker 1>is I love it that coal was so active here

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the board, he said the Twister trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>when that tire hurdles at the viewer, which wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, that's the first cinema bait and switch. I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember being perplexed by you remember that what hurdles

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<v Speaker 1>that the viewer the tire at the very end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Uh. And my old buddy Ward Jenkins, he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my brother's good friends in high school. He

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, Uh he was a crusher, so welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also says Twister because he worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>theater at the time, and he said Twister is the

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<v Speaker 1>first trailer that he remembers that had that stinger at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, like where you think the trailer is over

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get that last thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might be right. I don't remember any other movie

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<v Speaker 1>before Twister. And he even posted the trailer and I

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<v Speaker 1>rewatched it and I was like, yeah, man, that Twister

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<v Speaker 1>trailer was great. And at the very end, it gives

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<v Speaker 1>that stinger of a truck being flipped in an attire,

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<v Speaker 1>coming right at the camera, kind of crashing through the windshield.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was not in the movie. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about earlier. Sometimes they're using footage that

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<v Speaker 1>they do not use in the film itself. That is

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting example. But now you're right that little you

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<v Speaker 1>know fake out where it's like you even see no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it is. It is usually after the

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<v Speaker 1>title comes up, but before the final like um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>freeze frame of the credits basically you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean at the very end. Yeah, mean, if you haven't noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>trailers are very of the moment, like everyone does sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the same thing for a while, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>movie posters. It becomes sort of the way you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for a time, and then it switches and there's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a new thing that you do for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and those those stings became very much a part of

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the modern trailer thing. I think it can

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<v Speaker 1>be effective. I think it can be too. You kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wait on them now though, and sometimes they don't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the horror movie ones, like you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen here at the end? Is the girl

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out of the closet with a knife screaming? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's like it's like subverting the subversion of

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation, Yeah, exactly, Like everyone knows that they're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>all right, No, well that's gonna wrap this one up

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<v Speaker 1>our little movie or owed two movie trailers and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of fun. I'm doing a little steamer

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then. I love it too, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, uh, kudos to people that really treat

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<v Speaker 1>this like an art for them. You can definitely tell

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<v Speaker 1>the difference, you know what I mean when one is

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<v Speaker 1>made by committee or it's like you know, clearly designed

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<v Speaker 1>to mislead, but like a really good movie trailer is

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely thing. I think, yeah, And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>misleading ones, especially like with Drive, is when the studio

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<v Speaker 1>knows we got some art house garbage that no, you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta sell it as something else just for that

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<v Speaker 1>first weekend. We gotta get some asses in the seats

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make some of our money back. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the filmmakers, I'm sure hate that. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>really like the Paul Thomas Anderson's they have trailer control too. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's and that's that's why we talked so much about

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be blood trailer because of in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself, is uh an absolute little little mini work

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<v Speaker 1>of art. Totally absolutely all right, good stuff everyone, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for chiming in, and thank you Noel for everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you do for this show. But just as a human

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Hey man, YouTube brother and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, We'll see you all next week. Movie Crash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's produced and written by Charles Bryant and Roll Brown,

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