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Speaker 2: Pine Bluff from Belleville, Illinois, and he still holds the
Speaker 2: record for the fastest offensive lineman for forty yard dash
Speaker 2: time in the Combine history at four seven one. Here
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Speaker 2: O Joe. In the twenty thirteen Combine, Tehran recorded the
Speaker 2: fastest forty for an offensive lineman in Combine history, a
Speaker 2: record that still stands to this day.
Speaker 3: It was close.
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson ran four seven two, but Toront's record of
Speaker 2: four to seven one is close. And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: they're the only two offensive linemans that's run in the
Speaker 2: four sevens. They've been a couple of runs low four eights,
Speaker 2: but no other lineman other than Tehran at four seven one.
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson at four seven two have been in the
Speaker 2: offensive lineman have been in the four seventh so as
Speaker 2: of yet. So now we're thirteen years in counting twenty
Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty fifteen, and Toront still held that record. Turan, Look,
Speaker 2: you're coming out of Arkansas Pine Bluff and it's not
Speaker 2: like it used to be. There used to be a
Speaker 2: plethora of guys coming out of HBCUs and so that
Speaker 2: would have been nothing.
Speaker 3: But here it is.
Speaker 2: Now we're in the twenty tens and we get an
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, you're three times swack All Conference player, and
Speaker 2: you go to the Combine. What were your expectations? Did
Speaker 2: you know you had this kountability in you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: I knew I had the talent and the speed and
Speaker 1: agility to showcase. I just had to get to the showcase.
Speaker 1: So it was really huge for me to get that
Speaker 1: Combine invite. That was that was monumental for me trying
Speaker 1: to get more exposure, to get more eyes to my
Speaker 1: to my tape. So I knew that I was going
Speaker 1: to go. I was going for the record for sure,
Speaker 1: Like before I even before we got to Indy, I
Speaker 1: was going for the record out I wanted to run.
Speaker 3: Faster honestly than that. But I'll take the four seven Hey,
Speaker 3: but six four three five, that's that's what I get
Speaker 3: ready to ask you.
Speaker 4: I'll get to ask you how tall you were and
Speaker 4: how much you weighed to be able to run that. Listen,
Speaker 4: I ain't running before five, so technically by you right
Speaker 4: there with.
Speaker 3: Me, right there on your neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was six six five three old six
Speaker 1: I believe three or four at the combine.
Speaker 2: Wow, so you knew, you knew? So what was if
Speaker 2: I'm not, I don't know what the record was? What
Speaker 2: was the record? What was the fastest forty time for
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman before you broke it? It was four
Speaker 2: a four for a four. While you didn't break it,
Speaker 2: you obliterately needed it.
Speaker 3: I needed it. I needed all that. I needed that
Speaker 3: that my moment.
Speaker 1: I was on NFL network dot com NFL dot com
Speaker 1: for like two hours.
Speaker 3: I needed all of it. So the scouts can go
Speaker 3: watch my film.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you go run that forty yard dashtime
Speaker 2: you run four seven one, and that's really the order.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They want you to jump high, Yeah, they want you
Speaker 2: to do too. But speed is what captivates their tension.
Speaker 2: Now you an offensive lineman. You never gonna be able
Speaker 2: to unwind that four seven one again, But you just
Speaker 2: wanted to put that on tape to let them see, Look,
Speaker 2: you got a phenomenal athlete.
Speaker 3: Yes, I went to Arkansas Pine Bluff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're gonna downgrade me talk about who
Speaker 2: did I flock and who did I play against, But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come and showcase my skills and let you
Speaker 2: see and then the kiffs fall what they may. So
Speaker 2: when you read that time, did you know, like, okay,
Speaker 2: I got their undivided attention.
Speaker 3: I'm about to get drafted.
Speaker 1: And know for sure we have special talents down there
Speaker 1: in these HBCUs all across the country.
Speaker 3: We do. So I just needed the opportunity to showcase
Speaker 3: my skill. I knew what time it was. I was
Speaker 3: going for the vertical record too.
Speaker 1: I missed that by half an inch, so like I
Speaker 1: knew that I was going to be able to make
Speaker 1: that splash, and like I say again, I needed it.
Speaker 1: I really needed that chance to get all the scouts
Speaker 1: just to watch my fam I wouldn't ask you for
Speaker 1: no favorites, but just check out the film and see
Speaker 1: the dominance Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, also when I look at the officer line position,
Speaker 4: as fast as you were, you know, as far as
Speaker 4: running the forty, did you have an advantage as far
Speaker 4: as your footwork goes when it came to playing offensive
Speaker 4: line as well? Because most of the time, obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: playing officer line is all about your hand placement in
Speaker 4: your footwork and we always being being balanced.
Speaker 3: Did that give you the advantage? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, My athletic says to my agility that those were
Speaker 1: my strengths when I played throughout my twelve year career
Speaker 1: because I'm six five, three or four, not the biggest tackle,
Speaker 1: not necessarily the strongest season. But I'm on your ass.
Speaker 1: So was the ball snap you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: A lot of jump says, I had to use that
Speaker 1: in my game. So, uh findal ways to play in
Speaker 1: my strength, and I was using my speed.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Were you always an offensive lineman cuts out? I mean
Speaker 2: we were that kind of fast twitch. You might have
Speaker 2: been a you might have been a tight end at
Speaker 2: some point in time in your career.
Speaker 3: Were you always an offensive lineman? Back in my hometown Cochi, Illinois,
Speaker 3: we went off of speed. That's what we do.
Speaker 1: We run, So I was a defensive lineman in off
Speaker 1: of Salami, but I would go play seven on seven
Speaker 1: with the guys corner, safety, receiver, whatever. Yeah, it really
Speaker 1: was like that, really was like that, you can't do
Speaker 1: that shit no more. But I really was like that,
Speaker 1: I can't move like that no morel too with fit.
Speaker 2: Look you mentioned you say so you were thirty four,
Speaker 2: thirty four right now thirty three thirty three to run
Speaker 2: you walk away from the game. You're only thirty three
Speaker 2: lineman normally played in at thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight.
Speaker 2: We saw Jackie Slayter play twenty years and he retired
Speaker 2: at forty plus. And you see linemen especially, I don't
Speaker 2: know your injury history. That's why, that's why I'm going
Speaker 2: with this. Why walk away from the game and all
Speaker 2: that chip out there? You see that money, so how
Speaker 2: it is. It's a lot of freshly trended money out there,
Speaker 2: for sure, But yeah it is. Yes, indeed, I got
Speaker 2: a man.
Speaker 1: God blessed me with so many great moments and great
Speaker 1: years and a great career.
Speaker 3: Uh, my injury history is extensive. It is, it is.
Speaker 1: It is long, and I've been through it, and that's
Speaker 1: really the part for me is my body.
Speaker 3: You know, I love this game.
Speaker 1: I mentally, cerebrally, I can play the game for forever,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's just physically and I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: okay with saying that that that my body is slowing
Speaker 1: down its movements and abilities, that I just can't perform
Speaker 1: at at the same level.
Speaker 3: And I take so much pride in my.
Speaker 1: Film up that, Yeah, man, it has to look a
Speaker 1: certain way, like every time I step on the field,
Speaker 1: that has to look pro Bowl, all pro like. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the brand I wanted to leave, so I
Speaker 1: never want to leave. Got out there getting my getting
Speaker 1: whooped on. That ain't that can't happen.
Speaker 3: You know what, It takes a lot.
Speaker 4: It takes a lot of awareness, self awareness at that
Speaker 4: for a player of your caliber, or any player that's
Speaker 4: played in the NFL, that's played at a high level,
Speaker 4: to understand what it's time to call the quist. Most
Speaker 4: of the time we will ride, we'll ride the ride
Speaker 4: the car to the wheels fall off, you know, regard
Speaker 4: for you know what, I don't look the same. At
Speaker 4: what moment did you realize that, you know what, I
Speaker 4: really don't have it to be to.
Speaker 3: Play at the All Pro or or or Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: level anymore. What moment did it hit you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been dealing with a knee since my third
Speaker 1: year in the league, but it's been with me from
Speaker 1: for my entire career.
Speaker 3: So man, just I'll speak on this year alone.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a practice field like at all, and
Speaker 1: not because I didn't want to or the Dolphins just
Speaker 1: wanted me to rest. It's like I literally couldn't walk,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't after a game on Sunday. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to walk on my own, you know,
Speaker 1: under my own power until Wednesday, Thursday. So I was
Speaker 1: only able to play under under under the payment is
Speaker 1: I couldn't put any pressure on my knee.
Speaker 3: So it was like, I can't keep doing that to myself. Man,
Speaker 3: we uh it comes to.
Speaker 2: That time, Yeah, thirty three and you now you get
Speaker 2: to be forty and all of a sudden, you're like, man,
Speaker 2: what my livers shutting down, my kidneys and all the
Speaker 2: other things from taking those pain medicine Because I know
Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen linemen have to take vikinging. Just
Speaker 2: the practice I get, I get the game. I get
Speaker 2: the game. I really do because you know that's once
Speaker 2: a week, but the practice ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's crazy's and that's what I was the
Speaker 1: norm for sure.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't want to fall in that cycle,
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 2: But the thing Azcho was saying, it takes su space
Speaker 2: because to the cat, to the lay person, they don't,
Speaker 2: they don't, they don't, they don't really see what you know.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is that when you it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to let go and not practice because as
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Sets for everything.
Speaker 2: You weren't going to jump set when you paid a
Speaker 2: lazy fat don't we And and the thing is you got
Speaker 2: to practice that during the course of a week. It's
Speaker 2: hard for an offensive lineman to just go out there
Speaker 2: on a Sunday jump set. Quick said, hey, stab whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be, and just go. And you going
Speaker 2: against the best of the best. You said it, you
Speaker 2: said it's the reps. It's especially for office line play.
Speaker 2: We were so based.
Speaker 1: It's based on technique and uh toim and and all
Speaker 1: the hand placement and not not to mention the cohesiveness
Speaker 1: of everyone, because you know, we're the only unit that
Speaker 1: never comes off the field outside of the quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's one person.
Speaker 1: But we're the only unit that never comes off the field,
Speaker 1: so that chemistry and time and it just is really
Speaker 1: tough not getting those practice reps and then preparing mentally
Speaker 1: for Max Crosby and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3: And that's not okay, keep doing that, dealing with TJ. Wattson.
Speaker 3: I can't keep doing that, man with no practice.
Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, boys, like you said, you talk
Speaker 2: about your offense Tehran, you talk about your t excuse me,
Speaker 2: you talk about your offensive linement, and like, okay, they
Speaker 2: get somebody else in there to practice it. But you
Speaker 2: and that left guard, y'all need to be cohesive. You
Speaker 2: need to like be on the same level and pass
Speaker 2: it off because if you're on different levels, guy, go
Speaker 2: hit that crack and now everybody's like, man, y'all hate
Speaker 2: judge it, but see, you might be a little slow,
Speaker 2: he might've been a little fast, and now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you give up a sack when y'all should
Speaker 2: have had that situation covered. I know, I look and
Speaker 2: everybody doesn't do it the same because I remember practicing
Speaker 2: with Gary Zimmerman, who's the who's the two decade All
Speaker 2: decade player in the eighties and the nineties.
Speaker 3: He went to the Hall of Fame, but he didn't like.
Speaker 2: He didn't like me, the chip block, he didn't like.
Speaker 3: He like sharpy.
Speaker 2: Don't touch he said, if I if I jumped, said it, man,
Speaker 2: you hit him, you on the knock him inside, and
Speaker 2: now I can't get him, and everybody goes back.
Speaker 3: I got so don't touch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the real thing, especially especially if you have
Speaker 1: a big physical tight end like like yourself.
Speaker 3: So like you hitting him too hard?
Speaker 1: He getting momentum, he getting like a joke into the
Speaker 1: to the nside move you know what. I got him
Speaker 1: to get out the way, get open, get over Jonathan
Speaker 1: ja O. Now I played with j O Jonathan Auga.
Speaker 1: Whos the first battlet Hall of Famer. He like, hey,
Speaker 1: knock him, knock him out if you can't.
Speaker 3: For me. And depends on who it is man who
Speaker 3: over there exactly?
Speaker 2: But you, like you said, certain offensive linemen they want
Speaker 2: some I mean, hey, stick and stay or some guys
Speaker 2: like don't touch it. But like you said, that practice
Speaker 2: like for an offensive lineman and seeing like like I said,
Speaker 2: I've worked with Zam for like four years, work with
Speaker 2: Jail for two years, and to see what they go
Speaker 2: through because they're working on their sets.
Speaker 3: They ate, they kicking. Uh, am I gonna stab him?
Speaker 3: Am I gonna quick? Sitting? Am I gonna jump setting?
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do? And not? In the game?
Speaker 2: Man, I want to jump set? But that need bother you. Now,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't see. I can't do what I
Speaker 3: want to do.
Speaker 2: I mean the mind is and say do that that.
Speaker 3: You can't do that? No, you can't do it no more.
Speaker 4: When it came to playing the left tackle position, now,
Speaker 4: I think about my approach to playing receiver when it
Speaker 4: came to DB's and studying each DV every week and
Speaker 4: understanding what type of dB I'm going against? You got
Speaker 4: some that are quick, some of that fast, some of
Speaker 4: the physical, some of that you know, playoff or whatever
Speaker 4: may be. What was your approach when it came to
Speaker 4: playing defensive ends each week?
Speaker 3: Was was your Was.
Speaker 4: Your approach different as far as from from a technical standpoint?
Speaker 3: Do you change up things you did depending on who
Speaker 3: you were playing that week?
Speaker 1: We always I've always said this is a show that
Speaker 1: it's a lot of parallels to me, a lot of similarities.
Speaker 3: Between old line tackling tackling d N and receiver in corner. Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: like that that one on one matchup. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of dynamics there that that's parallel to me.
Speaker 1: The technique that goes intoward tendencies, like you said, is depressing.
Speaker 1: If I if I jab inside, what are you doing
Speaker 1: with his hands? Same thing as I'm bringing the defensive end.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at their alignment. First, how wide is the
Speaker 1: getting and then it get off? You know, how well
Speaker 1: is he time and a snap? Then I want to
Speaker 1: see his home runs. What's what's his go to move
Speaker 1: that he's consistently winning on. What he's winning on the
Speaker 1: most I break that down. That's the one I want
Speaker 1: to take away. I want to take that one away,
Speaker 1: and then all right, what's his second highest percentage move
Speaker 1: to count. I'm taking those top two away throughout my career.
Speaker 1: That was the goal, my objective of game planning. I
Speaker 1: want to take them top two winners away. Now, if
Speaker 1: you beat me with a third, you you you're a
Speaker 1: bad man, but you're going you're gonna have to get that.
Speaker 1: But for me, I was taking those top two, top
Speaker 1: two moves away.
Speaker 4: And one of the things that I've always liked to
Speaker 4: ask players that that, once they're done playing, who gave
Speaker 4: the the most fits?
Speaker 3: For me?
Speaker 4: And everybody asked me all the time, listen, you played
Speaker 4: a very long time, you're going against them. I've always
Speaker 4: had to deal with the number one dB and everyone asked,
Speaker 4: you know who gave you fits?
Speaker 3: And obviously the one person I say every.
Speaker 4: Time that you see had hell you lock everybody up,
Speaker 4: but had to be super strong.
Speaker 2: He asked you about nobody will would you were talking?
Speaker 3: Hey? Who? So you just want to give him the
Speaker 3: flowers for doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I had some battles. I had some of
Speaker 1: these guys I say too many times like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to have these robbery going on. But
Speaker 1: you know that's how the schedule to go. I played
Speaker 1: as a ton was always one of those. He's one
Speaker 1: of those you got it. You can make sure he
Speaker 1: breaks like he's one of those for short. But the
Speaker 1: guy that gave me the most fits, and I've probably
Speaker 1: seen him the most and he is still underrated in
Speaker 1: my eyes.
Speaker 3: Robert Quinn.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, Man, oh that first double Quinn, he's been
Speaker 1: in that edge. He listened Robert Quinn, he got he
Speaker 1: probably got the most sacks on me, Like out of everybody,
Speaker 1: he's the person that say I got to on t
Speaker 1: stall like he he probably the one person that can
Speaker 1: say that, right, Okay, okay, that dude gat Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to see him whost career.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I'm cool, friends, nothing, I don't
Speaker 3: want to run in the Robert.
Speaker 1: That's dope because if it's really it's really like a
Speaker 1: dang it is because like you said, they're getting that white,
Speaker 1: they're getting that what they're getting to that ye nine
Speaker 1: And now hey you're like, Okay, I know he gonna
Speaker 1: come wide, but what if he dropping bull me?
Speaker 2: Okay, now he gonna hit me, and then he's spin inside.
Speaker 2: So I got I got all that going into I
Speaker 2: gotta look at him. Okay, what is he doing?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm kicking.
Speaker 2: I can only kick so far because the damn cornerback
Speaker 2: the hell I keep kicking, i'ma be in his damn
Speaker 2: last So I can only get brother like two picks. See,
Speaker 2: and then I got to say, and I gotta tell you, hey,
Speaker 2: I gotta be I don't want him to get it.
Speaker 2: I don't want him to bend the edge on me
Speaker 2: because he, like you said, Miles can ben ben, But
Speaker 2: I also I also don't want him to wax on,
Speaker 2: wax out, been crossed my face all that were.
Speaker 1: Trying to process all that, man, and they lined up
Speaker 1: in this way nine and these athletes are only getting
Speaker 1: They're only getting bigger, faster, stronger.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's man, it's it's it's tough to deal with.
Speaker 1: Like Michaeh playing Michael Parsons for the first time, it
Speaker 1: was Christmas Day, we in Miami, beautiful day.
Speaker 3: We smacked the cowboys. That ain't part of the story.
Speaker 1: But seeing see Michael Parsons for the first time in
Speaker 1: real life, it was different. Bro, Like you are You're
Speaker 1: way too big to be moving as fast being that well, like,
Speaker 1: it's just the athlete. The evolution of the athlete is
Speaker 1: just it's becoming something something different.
Speaker 3: Man. Cool, I'm cool, y'all.
Speaker 2: And also those guys, especially watching you know, playing against
Speaker 2: Derreck Thomas. But the guy that I had the most
Speaker 2: respect for, I only played against him for two years
Speaker 2: because I was on in Baltimore two years. I've never
Speaker 2: seen a guy here size that quick. Was that Jabon
Speaker 2: curse the freak man, freak the first time. The first
Speaker 2: time I played man, hey, I turned about saying, hey,
Speaker 2: y'all better talk. He was gone, called block, dude. He
Speaker 2: took a step down because I got I had to step,
Speaker 2: so I stepped with it.
Speaker 3: Man. By the time I put my foot down, he
Speaker 3: was on my shoulder. That's a bad feeling.
Speaker 2: Well he get to your he get to your shoulder
Speaker 2: and you ain't he hey, you might, that's a bad feeling.
Speaker 3: He saw the picture I was.
Speaker 4: I just saw Javon cursing the airport leaving Philly day
Speaker 4: before yesterday.
Speaker 3: Who before he got that before he hurt the ankles.
Speaker 2: Joe, dude, was I'm talking about you talking about somebody
Speaker 2: like he's like six four two fifty, I'm talking about all.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about five big gloves. I mean his heads
Speaker 3: look like a catcher man. Did kurtse get in there?
Speaker 3: Did he get into the hall? Nah? Nah? Nah?
Speaker 2: He uh he would? I mean Tennessee, he was at Tennessee,
Speaker 2: his best year Tennessee. He goes to uh Philly and
Speaker 2: then he had he messed up his ankle, okay, and
Speaker 2: it messed up his years. But back in the day,
Speaker 2: you know, dealing with DT Bruce Smith was fast too.
Speaker 2: Bruce could be in for a guy his size. Normally,
Speaker 2: guys to seventy they can't be in like that. Bruce
Speaker 2: be parallel to the ground. That movie that you see
Speaker 2: that you see a von Miller do where he dip
Speaker 2: the hit and come down on one hand.
Speaker 3: And get back up. Bruce could do that at two seventy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So hey, that's why you guys make the big bucks.
Speaker 2: That's why you guys are the highest pad on the
Speaker 2: offensive line because you guys got the toughest assignment because
Speaker 2: you're dealing with like I said, basically it's like Ginger
Speaker 2: Robins and Fredistaire. He's coming forward, but you got a
Speaker 2: mirror what he does moving backwards. And the thing is,
Speaker 2: you got a target that's sitting right there, whether it's
Speaker 2: and basically everybody in the shotgun now. So you can
Speaker 2: only set so much before he sets your ass in
Speaker 2: the quarterback leaf or he reach over the top.
Speaker 3: And you agree.
Speaker 1: Listen, Jo, we need some more money, man, Oh lord,
Speaker 1: we need some more.
Speaker 3: We need some more that money. We need it all right,
Speaker 3: check this out.
Speaker 2: Saint Quon Barkler is coming off his best year of
Speaker 2: his career, which ending of him becoming a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: champion with the Eagles, and now he's gracing the cover
Speaker 2: of Man twenty six. Sat Quan was asked if he
Speaker 2: were retired at the top of his game or going
Speaker 2: to the wheels came off. I'll probably be one of
Speaker 2: those guys that will be out of nowhere. I'll probably
Speaker 2: just wake up one day, whether it's the next year
Speaker 2: or two or four, and just be like, yeah, it's over.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever lose that passion. The competitive
Speaker 2: nature is always going to be there. I like, probably
Speaker 2: my favorite player of all time is Barry Sanders, so
Speaker 2: probably similar to that. Maybe one day, like out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: I'll probably just be bawling and just be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a quiz t.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: We just talked about that because your situation was just
Speaker 1: like out of no were like, yeah, yep, a lot
Speaker 1: a lot that sudden. Really, the ones in that circle,
Speaker 1: they they knew the situation, and I was trying to
Speaker 1: push you. I was looking for options to continue, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's over for sure, like I knew it,
Speaker 1: not as sudden as like Barry Sanders or or Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 1: Saquon is incredible Hall of Fame talent. For sure, it'll
Speaker 1: be a he he can't walk away all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: We need to see some more of that man. That's
Speaker 1: a special talent.
Speaker 2: What the difference is between them situation and Calvin and Barry?
Speaker 2: They got tired of losing, all right?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 2: That he's in a situation where he's I mean, you
Speaker 2: just went to the Super Bowl. Now if you start
Speaker 2: to lose, but Barry, Barry got to the NFC Championship
Speaker 2: Game in ninety one and never got that close again.
Speaker 3: So Barry got tired of losing. Barry wasn't injured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you talked about the guy had average
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yards.
Speaker 3: For ten seats for sure to go. Yeah, Calvin's the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: Calvin like bro Man, we ain't getting no closer, And
Speaker 2: I'm going out here and doing all this to my body?
Speaker 2: What amout really doing this for when I don't really
Speaker 2: have a realistic chance of getting to in winning a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? So I think that's the different. Say quand
Speaker 2: a different situation. Now, if he was at the Giants, yeah,
Speaker 2: he probably.
Speaker 3: Just goes like one day I'm not here.
Speaker 2: But in the situation where he is with that offensive
Speaker 2: line without offense with that defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: think he.
Speaker 1: Just wanted the money different too, Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: money's all money different.
Speaker 4: Obviously different, and obviously he just got paid it. Gave
Speaker 4: a nice, nice, nice, nice nice Mili years and sure
Speaker 4: take one for a running back for that position, obviously
Speaker 4: with a position not as being as valued as it
Speaker 4: is now, but being somewhere now where they appreciate you
Speaker 4: for what you're doing and they showed you love. I
Speaker 4: don't see safe coming and retiring until he has that
Speaker 4: that coming to coming to grass moment.
Speaker 3: You know what, I can't do it like I used
Speaker 3: to explosion the same way.
Speaker 4: I think that'll be the only time he actually called
Speaker 4: it quits when he realized, you know what, I can't
Speaker 4: get I can't bend that corner like I used to.
Speaker 4: I can't hit I can't hit that A. But that
Speaker 4: that be a C gap like I want that that
Speaker 4: that want to be it and that that ain't.
Speaker 2: Probably twenty six, twenty seven, he got twenty eight years.
Speaker 2: Just but here's the thing, Joe Lane Johnson still there,
Speaker 2: My Lott is still there.
Speaker 3: Jersey Line still there and the Dickerson still there.
Speaker 2: So it's not like you see some of these off
Speaker 2: some of these guys, the offensive line get old and
Speaker 2: they starting to move with them out.
Speaker 3: That's the best offensive line in football. They're not going.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're about to drop off a cliff
Speaker 2: in the next year too, not at all. And they
Speaker 2: got them all in the contract. They just did Lane's contract.
Speaker 2: They just didn't buy a lot of contract. They just
Speaker 2: just did Dickerson contract. Jergensen is a rook that was
Speaker 2: on a rookie contract. Nah, he ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 3: And you know, you know, it's funny when you think
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: As good as Saquon is and as good as that
Speaker 4: offensive line is, even if sa Quon was losing step,
Speaker 4: let's say it maybe maybe in three.
Speaker 3: Years, if that, with an offensive line like that.
Speaker 4: He will still be able to do what he needs
Speaker 4: to do because that much better up front.
Speaker 2: So he won't be able to go eighty yards with
Speaker 2: anybody without anybody touching him. So now he might have
Speaker 2: to break a tackle two yards from the line of
Speaker 2: scripmen have the pose to runing through those holes that
Speaker 2: my old slow ass could probably get five yards I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna hit my head on the goal post like him,
Speaker 2: but I might get five yards tea.
Speaker 1: I gave about three or four yard drunk fall four,
Speaker 1: I gave about three four.
Speaker 3: The them makes hurt.
Speaker 2: I can imagine now I hadn't gotten hit on the
Speaker 2: man to a two decade.
Speaker 3: I shot him like ice. You know how you drop.
Speaker 4: Even remember they not hitting like we was back then.
Speaker 4: Now it's different. Oh, I don't forgot how to fall.
Speaker 4: I don't forgot how to take it again.
Speaker 2: You see you start looking hey, you know how t
Speaker 2: when you go like when you leave the season and
Speaker 2: you come back and you got to go to training camp.
Speaker 3: You got to relearning. Those don't tingle like they did.
Speaker 2: Like once you get going like training camp and now
Speaker 2: you go to the season, they don't tingle them and
Speaker 2: not twenty years.
Speaker 3: Man, I be get that. I run them Michelle across.
Speaker 3: It's a zone.
Speaker 1: You're running through the zone. They gonna get fined. They
Speaker 1: gonna get fine though they might hit you what they
Speaker 1: gonna I won't be fine. They might get fined, but
Speaker 1: I won't be fine. That's that's the word. Yo oh cho,
Speaker 1: you switch it up on me. Man, you usually have
Speaker 1: on the Cardier shaves. I got seven pair of Cardier
Speaker 1: saves over.
Speaker 3: I was gonna be tonight. Hey, you know on see
Speaker 3: what you got? What you got? You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We're in there right now. It's time.
Speaker 4: I keep wearing the same ones over and over. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to say the rest of them, you know, for
Speaker 4: football season when I'm on TV. I got I got,
Speaker 4: I got strings, right, I got a different color to
Speaker 4: match each suit.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah that's a different bran.
Speaker 4: They got a different color of that mass suit. But
Speaker 4: I gotta see you. I gotta see you, dude.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 4: Information right off of Twitter he from Canada, brou he
Speaker 4: got everything, unbelieving.
Speaker 3: I need it. I need it week. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: switch up. You gonna put your door.
Speaker 2: Says that when he's a bet, he'll have rookie organize
Speaker 2: his locker.
Speaker 3: Take a listen, take a look at this video. Guys,
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna bet. What I'm gonna do.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a rookie organized by locker every day.
Speaker 5: If Flacko told me to do this every day, I
Speaker 5: would do it. I go to him every day. I said, hey, bro,
Speaker 5: you good? You need anything? Right, then, because it's respect
Speaker 5: you feel me, I feel that.
Speaker 2: I ain't organ So when you came in as a rookie,
Speaker 2: what did the bets have you do?
Speaker 1: Toron On bets were pretty pretty good to me, man,
Speaker 1: Jerry Evans, being Grubbs, Zach Street, those guys were pretty
Speaker 1: good to me. I just had to get him yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: get him breakfast every Saturday, uh food for the plane, snacks,
Speaker 1: toilet tries. I had to bring that type stuff to
Speaker 1: the facility, deoderant, body wash, all that good stuff. So
Speaker 1: trying to find a ride to Walmart because Uber didn't
Speaker 1: exist in the in twenty thirteen, So trying to find
Speaker 1: a ride to Walmart, get the stuff for the guys
Speaker 1: and haul it into the facility.
Speaker 3: But they were they were pretty they were pretty smooth
Speaker 3: on me. Yeah that's what it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, they want breakfast, sandwiches, they wanted doughnuts, they
Speaker 2: wanted chicken the company, they wanted Popeye to come to
Speaker 2: the plane. I'm like, come on, guys, y'all, bro y'all
Speaker 2: know man, And back then, you know we drove, we know,
Speaker 2: we drove drove to the airport, but we had our
Speaker 2: own hangar.
Speaker 3: So you drive up, go get on the walk up
Speaker 3: and get on the plane.
Speaker 2: Man, you better I was driving so fast driving trying
Speaker 2: to get there. Bro, I'm on a rookie contract. Man,
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't afford now twelve hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: dollar fine.
Speaker 3: Man, damn.
Speaker 4: I remember remember them day I received a group. I
Speaker 4: mean obviously the vestment I came into a rookie and
Speaker 4: since Sinnati. Man, it was it was love, you know
Speaker 4: that there was. There was a certain amount of respect
Speaker 4: that that I showed them, a certain amount of respect
Speaker 4: that they showed as well.
Speaker 3: But you remember Darnay.
Speaker 4: Scott, Yeah, Darnay Scott, Danny Farmer was there at the time,
Speaker 4: Ron Dugans there and it was.
Speaker 3: It was all love.
Speaker 4: It was nothing to that magnitude like some of the
Speaker 4: stories that I that I hear.
Speaker 1: No, I think we have the hardest time with that.
Speaker 1: The receiving room is always that that respect trying to
Speaker 1: buck It's always a hard time with that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We had a situation in Miami last year, not a
Speaker 1: big situation, but uh tyr Tyreek Hill have bought one
Speaker 1: of the rookies Christmas gifts and the rookie didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Really like what, like it's cool, but you know, youd
Speaker 1: give me something better, you know, something bigger. You make
Speaker 1: it thirty eight a year, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And Tyreek was really hurt by that, like he was
Speaker 1: really upset.
Speaker 3: That, Hey, what did it get? I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a like a Gucci
Speaker 1: cologne said or something like that, some type of designer
Speaker 1: cologne said. And this is this young boy, he twenty
Speaker 1: one years old in Miami. Man, he probably don't even
Speaker 1: have no colown wearing no colonnia.
Speaker 3: I don't want that.
Speaker 1: He wanted to try rig the boum something with a
Speaker 1: little bit more more splash to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not even plus you'll sing it.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta sing at training camp and not
Speaker 2: no damn fight song either, because I don't nobody, ain't
Speaker 2: nobody go to your school, but you so you got
Speaker 2: to say something. Whoever the latest see us now like
Speaker 2: probably not either be Kendrin Lamar Drake or whomever.
Speaker 3: The hot rapper is right now.
Speaker 2: Back then, you know, R and B was still big
Speaker 2: when I was coming up and guys singing Teddy Pitt,
Speaker 2: the guy who was singing, uh, Luther was singing Barry
Speaker 2: why he the undefeated song?
Speaker 3: They did the thing y'all have, Did y'all have a
Speaker 3: rookie show? Sure? For sure?
Speaker 1: Mike and Dany he was, he was big on that
Speaker 1: and Shahpagne was two back in New Orleans. Uh, we
Speaker 1: would do the song. Most of the guys would would
Speaker 1: do R and B Old school R and B.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like the and you guys probably have a
Speaker 1: different song, but I feel like that undefeated song when
Speaker 1: the rookie starts singing it, and that rookie show the
Speaker 1: whole crowd.
Speaker 3: On Jordan in it's fantation when I see you Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah he started that.
Speaker 1: You get to the first thirty he get to the
Speaker 1: first thirty seconds. Yeah, he won't because everybody gonna yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what that song? That song right there
Speaker 4: is like when the Swag surface song come on. It
Speaker 4: don't matter where you at or what you doing, everybody
Speaker 4: join it in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, grab somebody show.
Speaker 6: Everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's it a.
Speaker 2: Uh New Orleans that here we come to get you,
Speaker 2: We call to get you.
Speaker 3: That was or that super Dog used to rock Man.
Speaker 3: I missed I missed them. I missed that place. I
Speaker 3: missed those fans team matter the fact. Think you went
Speaker 3: the Arkansas Pine Bluff, Yes, sir, as matter of fact.
Speaker 4: When I was at Link you know about Lincoln University, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: and we when I was at Lengths and we played
Speaker 4: Arkansas Pine Bluff, they came up, they came on down.
Speaker 4: There is a coil, so steal water whichever what it is,
Speaker 4: but it's back in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: We played Lengths in my freshman year and Lengths and
Speaker 3: beat us bro real. It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 2: I know, y'all took the bus. So we took the
Speaker 2: bus everywhere. It didn't matter if it was three hours
Speaker 2: or if it was twelve hours.
Speaker 3: You owned that. I was on that bus. He's on
Speaker 3: that bus. Tear it up. Good days and well see.
Speaker 2: And the way we did it is like the starting
Speaker 2: offense and the starting defense on one bus and then
Speaker 2: the backups on another bus.
Speaker 3: Y'all offense and defense. But were the offense bus and defense?
Speaker 2: But no, hell no, started on one bust the back
Speaker 2: but you ride this bus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right exactly about segregation. Oh yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How they supposed to get better man, they can't sit
Speaker 1: and talk to none of y'all because we back there
Speaker 1: playing cards, you know, spades, were playing cards. We we know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all wanted the back to the back of the bus.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we wanted to go to the back of the bus.
Speaker 1: But hey, all of us, it wasn't nothing, specially because
Speaker 1: all of us was black. We had what a kicker
Speaker 1: with white Yeah.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no thinking. I'm sure it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with you guys. Did y'all have a white kicker? White
Speaker 1: kicker and punter, that's it? And a linebacker? We had
Speaker 1: a Yeah, we had a linebacker too. He was a
Speaker 1: bad man.
Speaker 2: But that's what you know. But you you missed that.
Speaker 2: I missed, you know, taking those you know going to Tuskegee,
Speaker 2: uh going to uh we're Burlington, North Carolina, just because
Speaker 2: you you know you you're taking the bus. I mean,
Speaker 2: it ain't no you know, playing it doesn't matter. It
Speaker 2: was like I said, if it was an hour to
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and Statesboro or you going to Tuskihee or
Speaker 2: you going to North Carolina, it didn't matter. Spartanburg, South Carolina,
Speaker 2: didn't matter.
Speaker 1: We would take we take that ten hour bus rode
Speaker 1: to Houston, play review Texas Southern. We'd take the ten
Speaker 1: hour bus ride to Alabama and them Alabama State.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: My first flight in my life was we got paid
Speaker 1: to come play U TIP, so we flew down to UTEP.
Speaker 1: They paid us to beat on us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, that was my first time. I'm trying to say,
Speaker 2: what if oh first time on the flight. I think
Speaker 2: I went to Black college, all American. I think I
Speaker 2: went to Pittsburgh. I think maybe I flew to see
Speaker 2: my brother play. Uh, but other than now, but now
Speaker 2: you wouldn't taking you wouldn't. But you missed that because
Speaker 2: guess what. We could stop by a convenience store. And
Speaker 2: he's like, man, the guy was like because I was.
Speaker 3: I was. I was a captainist the sow. The man
Speaker 3: like man, shop man, I'm holding me.
Speaker 2: Have Coach David to stop by the stop by the
Speaker 2: convenience store. I'm like, I'm like coach man, I'm home, Coach,
Speaker 2: can we stopped by a convenience store? Coach didn't looked
Speaker 2: at me, say all right, home, we're gonna stop. But
Speaker 2: you're responsible for. Man, he already knows what.
Speaker 3: They won't clean the store out, y'all y'all had that
Speaker 3: nil money back then. No, we had no n il money.
Speaker 2: That's why he told me I was responsible for him
Speaker 2: to make sure they put issue in their pockets.
Speaker 3: Money.
Speaker 2: That's why he told me. I'm responding and I'm standing
Speaker 2: to the door.
Speaker 1: Hey mm hmmmm hm, take it out man.
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, Joe, how that donna? Look? They ain't stop everybody, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you ain't see everything. But I tell you what.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I wouldn't do because I
Speaker 2: was one of the few guys that had had a vehicle,
Speaker 2: and they and people like man to this day, they're like, man,
Speaker 2: Sean wouldn't give nobody ride. Bro, I know who had
Speaker 2: the stuff, would follow them out the store. I I
Speaker 2: know who a bag of potato chip, soda, honey buns.
Speaker 2: It would follow you walk out the store behind you. So, no,
Speaker 2: you're not getting to my car because everybody knew who
Speaker 2: my who I was, and what I drove. Man, I
Speaker 2: just know they got in the car with Shannon. It
Speaker 2: was Shannon Shark. They ain't gonna say nothing else. It
Speaker 2: was Shannon Shark.
Speaker 1: Oh no, even if he had at Honey Bunny or
Speaker 1: slides he Live, swist roll or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zebra, he might have three dollars, but he gonna
Speaker 2: come out of there with five dollars worth the store.
Speaker 3: So no, they got some you he didn't know.
Speaker 2: Oh No, and the mall. Never go into the mall
Speaker 2: with him, absolutely not. Tell you what do you think
Speaker 2: about the locker room decision with two of going through
Speaker 2: his third and fourth major concussions. How do I mean? Look,
Speaker 2: you you can do all you can try to protect
Speaker 2: the guy, but at some point in time, he got
Speaker 2: to protect himself. He has to know when the journey's over.
Speaker 2: You can't. At no situation should he be allowed. I
Speaker 2: don't know what he was thinking, that you're gonna go ahead,
Speaker 2: that you're gonna go head first. Oh somebody knowing his caw,
Speaker 2: you know, he definitely he's he has to be aware,
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And he is aware, but
Speaker 2: even more and now it has to be proven on
Speaker 2: a weekly basis that he understands his importance and impact
Speaker 2: to the to the team, to the franchise, to the
Speaker 2: city without too under center.
Speaker 1: It's a different it's a different team. It's a different look.
Speaker 1: But with him under center, I strongly believe Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: can win any game that he's the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: So no, you're you're absolutely right, except when he gets
Speaker 2: thirty degrees.
Speaker 3: Here we go, let's get it, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Let's get into man, go ahead with go ahead with you.
Speaker 1: No, he has to know that, he has to know
Speaker 1: how how much of a value PC is and and
Speaker 1: whatever it needs to do.
Speaker 3: But just just.
Speaker 1: Knowing that God, knowing how much you love the game,
Speaker 1: and the way that he prepares. Man, it's that competitiveness
Speaker 1: against Buffalo this year where stagnant offensively, we get a
Speaker 1: drop gone and he's trying to extend on the third
Speaker 1: down to try to get another first down. It's just
Speaker 1: he can't be the one to do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But he's just been a competitor trying
Speaker 1: to trying to wield a team.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I actually I think I talked uncle and I talked
Speaker 4: about this last last year some time. Uh, when he
Speaker 4: when he went out, I just think he has to
Speaker 4: learn to fall a little better and under understanding. But
Speaker 4: when when to especially I remember that first down we
Speaker 4: went head first, he still got he got up.
Speaker 3: It was like one of the moments we'd be like, ah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, hold your breath moment, but just what.
Speaker 4: Journeys, knowing when the journey's over, and then when he
Speaker 4: gets hit, knowing how to fall correctly, you know, especially
Speaker 4: when you go when you go back and you don't
Speaker 4: try to do your best. I know it's hard, but
Speaker 4: I was. It's something that I trained myself to do.
Speaker 4: Is when you get tackled, you're going backwards, try not
Speaker 4: to let your head hit the back of the back
Speaker 4: of the back of the ground as hard as it does.
Speaker 4: I mean, what I used to do is if I
Speaker 4: get hit hard and I know it's backwards, I'm going backwards,
Speaker 4: I would tighten the my core and try to keep
Speaker 4: my head up right the best I can, the best
Speaker 4: I can, just so I don't get that boom that
Speaker 4: that that that initial shock which causes Yeah, cause the that's.
Speaker 1: The one though, the one that you're falling back hit
Speaker 1: the head, that's the one that's Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 4: If I'm getting it my best, like I'm holding the ball,
Speaker 4: but I do my best as if I'm as if
Speaker 4: I'm bear hunting dude, you know, in a sense obviously
Speaker 4: literally bare hugging. I'm just saying, trying to keep my
Speaker 4: body and my upper body and torso as close to
Speaker 4: him as possible even on impact, just so most of
Speaker 4: the force isn't the back of the head bouncing off.
Speaker 1: How do you feel like I got on the sideline
Speaker 1: and they jump out of bound or or are you
Speaker 1: trying to fall forth for the few more yards?
Speaker 2: What you what you think about that? It all depends
Speaker 2: in his situation. He can't do it, not even on
Speaker 2: four because he's too valued. He gets the first down
Speaker 2: and he gets Dean, what have you done? Okay, you
Speaker 2: got the first down. Now your backup has to come.
Speaker 3: In and finish out the bar game a whole different time.
Speaker 2: I give you a private example, Peyton Manny. Once Peyton
Speaker 2: Manny hurt that neck, they never let him do quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And again yeah, if you.
Speaker 2: Notice, they don't let Patrick mahone since he hurt his knee.
Speaker 2: They don't let Patrick Mahones do go straight into the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. You see, you have to protect them.
Speaker 2: That's the fact that's he's gonna have. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: let him do. Obviously, you wouldn't do no touch push
Speaker 2: with Tour. But second of all, bro you got slide.
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, slide. I'm not looking at the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Oh he tough for what You're not used to taking
Speaker 2: those licks like that, and they're looking to punish you
Speaker 2: because you don't have the protection of the pocket, because
Speaker 2: once you leave that pocket, you're a runner.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hit you like the free game. Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean you go from you have Drew Brees for
Speaker 3: a number of years and then you go from Tour.
Speaker 3: What was it? What was it like?
Speaker 1: What was Breeze like? Brees was a Breeze was a
Speaker 1: killer man. He was an assassin.
Speaker 3: He prepared like like a federal agent. He was he
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 1: He's prepared man like he's trying to build a case
Speaker 1: on everything that we played. Man, you would you hear
Speaker 1: the cliche first one in, last one to leave. But
Speaker 1: that was genuinely him. That was truly him. I would
Speaker 1: see him on those off days. Man's he preparing like
Speaker 1: none other. And you've seen it every week. And it
Speaker 1: was no matter the outcome of the game too. This
Speaker 1: was the special part of bottom Note, no matter how
Speaker 1: he played individually or if it was a win and lost.
Speaker 1: He put the same amount of time. Man, he gave
Speaker 1: every team the same amount of attention and respect. Playing
Speaker 1: the Falcons twice a year, that second game, even though
Speaker 1: we just beat them about fifteen two weeks ago, He's.
Speaker 3: Going to put those same amount of hours in And
Speaker 3: that's why he was He was the greatest. Wow, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: T did you understand before? Did you understand the animosity
Speaker 3: and the hatred that the Saints fans had for the
Speaker 3: Falcon fan Did you know that? No? I didn't. Honestly
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was such a thing, but I
Speaker 1: quick quickly adopted quickly.
Speaker 3: I hate them folks still Listen.
Speaker 4: I think I found out maybe two or three years ago.
Speaker 4: And here I go, try to have a Kumba y'all moment,
Speaker 4: trying to get fans become one of the game, you know,
Speaker 4: and like man, f no like about like for real,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking they you know, I think they playing around
Speaker 4: on Twitter. And then people say, like this is really
Speaker 4: I really hate them? People like really, no.
Speaker 2: They do not mess with the same Sames fans do
Speaker 2: not mess with Falcon fans, and Falcon fans you best.
Speaker 3: Believe then, don't they don't. Is that serious? I had
Speaker 3: no idea.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't need it, but I said, I
Speaker 1: quickly adopted it. I still hate them to this day.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not rocking with the Falcons ever.
Speaker 2: Uh. Laces on Leather ranked the NFL atmosphere from best
Speaker 2: to worse. What do you think the best atmosphere? NFL atmospherees?
Speaker 2: What do you think the best one is?
Speaker 3: Hey, uncle, you gotta be between Kansas City and Seattle,
Speaker 3: and the city is number one. Okay. I go through
Speaker 3: the top ten.
Speaker 2: Cow the Chiefs are one, Packers are two, see Hawks
Speaker 2: are three, Vikings are four, Ravens are five, Bills are six,
Speaker 2: Lions are seven, Saints are eight, Patriots are nine. Cowboys
Speaker 2: are ten. I don't know how Cowboys made it cause
Speaker 2: they ain't got no home feeling about it. They lose
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. The stadium nice, though. I think
Speaker 1: it's just raising the stadium. Ranking the stadium for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's got the environment. I was shocked
Speaker 1: they lost. They lost like six games last year and
Speaker 1: don Cowboys don't got that. Don't really have a unless
Speaker 1: there unless that winning. They their fans to show up.
Speaker 1: But there's so many people in that stadium.
Speaker 3: You will hear it. I'm shocked to hear that that
Speaker 3: that New Orleans was was so low on that list.
Speaker 3: That Super Dome is crazy. It's super crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but y'all, y'all, y'all been y'all been, y'all been struggling,
Speaker 2: y'all been on hard.
Speaker 1: So this is this is what last year's like. Best atmosphere. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm just fair. Look, yeah, I give y'all credit. Now, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all be making some noise because I remember Katrina when
Speaker 1: y'all with y'all y'all played in San Antonio. I think
Speaker 1: he was in San Antonio when they came back and
Speaker 1: glease and blocked that point on that Monday night game
Speaker 1: against the I.
Speaker 3: Mean you could literally hear it through the television.
Speaker 2: I mean it was if I don't know, and Sean
Speaker 2: Payton all the people say they've never heard it that
Speaker 2: loud before or since that night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that I that was definitely a strucial moment.
Speaker 1: But during my tenure in New Orleans, we were always
Speaker 1: it was us Seattle. Yeah, y'all did as far as
Speaker 1: like the loudest crowd noise. The Saints was always near.
Speaker 2: The top, and I'm not surprised that. A look, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at this, A lot of these Seahawk vikings A Dome,
Speaker 2: Lions Dome, Saints Dome, Cowboys Dome. It's something about when
Speaker 2: you can get a you can get an outdoor arena
Speaker 2: and you get that kind of like the Chiefs have,
Speaker 2: or like when I played the broncos Man.
Speaker 3: Oh my, how that thing be rocking.
Speaker 2: They that's seventy six thousand, I'm talking about. They be
Speaker 2: going crazy. Pole chargers right down here at the bottom.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah charges hand Listen. I've been in
Speaker 4: some great atmospheres. I played at every stadium that's on here,
Speaker 4: and I honestly no one Number two should be the Bengals. Honestly,
Speaker 4: cut it out. Listen to me, to stay with me. Now,
Speaker 4: never been in the jungle, boy, You've never been in
Speaker 4: jungle on a primetime game in Cincinnati. You see what
Speaker 4: you gotta see what you have? You say, I preface
Speaker 4: the team a prime time around the playoffs. It ain't
Speaker 4: gotta be no prime time game. It can be any game.
Speaker 2: It can be appreciding game, it can be a note
Speaker 2: of what you're scrimmaging against yourself. It's gonna be ruckous.
Speaker 2: That is what y'all do to do.
Speaker 3: That's what we've been. That has changed tremendously. You hit me,
Speaker 3: I have been there was. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: I give you, I give you credit, Joe, it is
Speaker 1: it has from my earlier years to now. I feel
Speaker 1: like now is a lot better atmosphere. They were they
Speaker 1: all white. Yeah, it is rocking that Joe Burrow, the
Speaker 1: Icy White. It's not in the top ten. Not in
Speaker 1: the top ten though.
Speaker 3: No, guess what, No, it's not. When they win the
Speaker 3: Ice and White.
Speaker 2: All you're gonna do is see them see see them
Speaker 2: scared marks because they're gonna poop the bed.
Speaker 3: They already they gonna dough it, poop the bed. I
Speaker 3: mean going on at nothing. Bimore Raven coming out. I
Speaker 3: know what that is. I know what that.
Speaker 1: That's that hatred y'all was asking me about when the
Speaker 1: five in the Saint Well, don't know your hatred?
Speaker 3: Steelers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers, No, we and us for the in
Speaker 2: the Denver it would be it was the Raiders. Then
Speaker 2: the cheap I got was that, but the raid it
Speaker 2: was it was the steep.
Speaker 3: During my time, it was the Ravens, Ravens and Steelers.
Speaker 3: It was bad.
Speaker 1: It was y'all be with Cleveland because y'all try to
Speaker 1: fix who own Ohio and he's ain't nobody worried about y'all.
Speaker 3: During my time, we used to beat up on the
Speaker 3: Ravens and the Steelers. Yeah, well maybe you did. I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: Saw on him that showed on that thing on you black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he put you down, but you got the trip Cardinals
Speaker 1: bear the Chargers.
Speaker 3: So what what you're thinking on Joe? What what they
Speaker 3: get right? What they get wrong? I mean, know this
Speaker 3: is about right though I'm not sure who made this list,
Speaker 3: but it's about right. You know.
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it is the fact that some
Speaker 4: of the dome teams are a little low. That's a
Speaker 4: testament to the fans in Seattle, in Green Bay, in
Speaker 4: Kansas City. And funny thing the first thing I said before,
Speaker 4: as soon as you mentioned we've been doing the rank
Speaker 4: in the best stadiums, I said, I said Kansas City
Speaker 4: and Seattle right away, So goddamn loud.
Speaker 3: T Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: the way the stadium is built. I don't know what
Speaker 3: it is. It's like dog, you be on the field
Speaker 3: and can't hear nothing. Yeah, no, for sure the Seattle game.
Speaker 3: We played them our rookie year in the playoffs and
Speaker 3: oh that was to be. That wasn't that? Man, No, okay,
Speaker 3: that wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of that. I would have tripped him.
Speaker 1: But in the second round of the playoffs and Champagne,
Speaker 1: so we went up there. We kind of like battle
Speaker 1: for the number one seed. Middle of the season. We
Speaker 1: played on Monday night, It's twenty eighth to nothing, and
Speaker 1: immediately first quarter they smacked us. So when we go
Speaker 1: back in the playoffs, Sean Payton had us all these
Speaker 1: custom ear pieces made dead silence. So all week we
Speaker 1: were these ear pieces and we nonverbally communicated every play,
Speaker 1: every snapcount, and we got up there and we we
Speaker 1: we did it. It worked like a charm as far
Speaker 1: as that we still lost. Of course, they went on
Speaker 1: and won the Super Bowl, but it was it was
Speaker 1: that to your to your point, it was really it
Speaker 1: was so loud that it like hurt. So we had
Speaker 1: these custom earpieces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like after the day with Kansas City, we did
Speaker 2: that with Kansas City. But uh, the old Kingdome. Before
Speaker 2: they built this stadium, they used to have. They used
Speaker 2: to have a dome and see how to call the
Speaker 2: King Dome.
Speaker 3: No, that didn't know that. They now it only hold
Speaker 3: about sixty. But boy, that's because it always it's always
Speaker 3: ran in this Seattle.
Speaker 1: Those people walking around sad all week and they go
Speaker 1: in the stadium and screen.
Speaker 3: That's all it is. It's all the.
Speaker 2: The old the astronom was like that steal. Oh, the
Speaker 2: House of Pay. They used to call it the House
Speaker 2: of Pay. They did well. They had warm moon, they
Speaker 2: ran to run and shoot and their defense made. Boy,
Speaker 2: but the bills, the Bills is like the Bill Stadium.
Speaker 2: That's what they got it. They got a nice fo
Speaker 2: I don't know what they call it now. I don't
Speaker 2: know what they call it in Mark or whatever. They
Speaker 2: call it high Mark or something. But it used to
Speaker 2: be called uh Rich Stadium. Yo, Yo, them just gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about let's go. Buffalo said, that's.
Speaker 3: That's That was one of my favorite plays to play
Speaker 3: throughout my career. The energy is did Joe start jumping
Speaker 3: around to you better tell you that it's hard? It's hard.
Speaker 3: They got a nice atmosphere up thee Hey, Buffalo got
Speaker 3: some crazy fans. Boy, they sucked. They go jumping out,
Speaker 3: jumping on Bernie table.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, they got real football up there, real
Speaker 1: football atmosphere.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny t T when you think about it. Listen,
Speaker 4: Buffalo Buffalo fans deserve their flowers anytime it comes to donating.
Speaker 3: You know when other players they talk, what Buffalo fans
Speaker 3: come through like no other. No, that's the Fu's that's
Speaker 3: they always show love.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they used the tragedy. They always lose, so they
Speaker 3: know how to handle losing. Well you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like they know how to get close, get to the
Speaker 3: door and get both shut on them. So they used
Speaker 3: to lose and they know how to handle it. Well. Yes, Oh.
Speaker 2: So you good Chiefs one, Packers, Seahawks, Vikings, Ravens, Bills, Lions, Saints, Patriots, Costleys, Sat.
Speaker 3: So you think Saints should be in the top five?
Speaker 3: Real real Saints amish the top top three environment? Oh
Speaker 3: whoa hold on?
Speaker 4: If the Saint's top three environment, then the Cincinnati was
Speaker 4: damn show got to be in top.
Speaker 3: Argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, different than I hadn't played at this new stadium,
Speaker 2: but the old Metro Dome. You played no metro doome right?
Speaker 3: Crazy?
Speaker 2: Oh standing? I played up there, man. When they had
Speaker 2: they had Johnny Randall, they had Chris Doman, rest his soul.
Speaker 2: They had Keith Keith Millard, they had Alga and they
Speaker 2: had Henry Thomas. Hey boy, they had a defense out
Speaker 2: of this world, boy, boy, boy boy. If Floyd the
Speaker 2: defense court down, I think it was Floyd Peters, Floyd Reeches,
Speaker 2: Floyd What was Floyd's last name? I think it's Reese.
Speaker 2: Boy you're talking about. Come man, don't let them sack.
Speaker 2: Don't you let them take that quarterback?
Speaker 3: They was doing that star blow that hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Jord, because right now he just logged
Speaker 2: on for the fact he wanted on the first athlete,
Speaker 2: the original music man fan guy.
Speaker 3: He's been trused. We've been trying to get him on
Speaker 3: for a minute. We linked up a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: He said, Man, let me come on night cap and
Speaker 2: here you is, ladies and gentlemen, your favorite rappers, favorite
Speaker 2: rapper symbol.
Speaker 3: Un what's up? Oh then what they do?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 7: We live in life. We blessed you alive. Man, I'm
Speaker 7: loving the man, happy to be here with you. Are
Speaker 7: your Nor'm a big fan of the show. Shout out
Speaker 7: to my good my guy up there, man, big dog.
Speaker 7: I'm not a Dolphins fan, but I'm a Dolphins supporter.
Speaker 7: I'm a Dolphins supporter. I got fan out of Miami
Speaker 7: with shout out to you, man, shout out to the
Speaker 7: whole crew.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, shout out to make sure you're from your
Speaker 3: faith living in La. Now, So were you a Raiders fan?
Speaker 3: You're a forty nine Ers fan.
Speaker 6: I'm a Raider. You see that the to us, they
Speaker 6: liked the they like the prima Donnas of the Bay.
Speaker 3: You know, they liked that.
Speaker 7: They liked the pretty girl at school. Everybody want the
Speaker 7: Raiders was gotten there, Gritton. Growing up, my mom was
Speaker 7: in real estate, so one of her first real estate
Speaker 7: deals was Lance Johnstone when he came to the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Okayah.
Speaker 7: He used to give us tickets to the game and
Speaker 7: my mom would always take me to the game. And
Speaker 7: then one of my close friends, Taiwan Jones, he was
Speaker 7: drafted to the Raiders from our high school, Deer Valley.
Speaker 7: So always been a big Raider fan, Marshawn Lynch, Charles Woodson,
Speaker 7: you'd always been a big Raider fan.
Speaker 3: Man, all right, we'll get you out here. CJ.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson goes off on DC big FANGI on ig.
Speaker 2: I was a tenth dummy for them, So now they
Speaker 2: can be like my scheme work or did my skills?
Speaker 2: Fan make it work? I had zero issues. People had
Speaker 2: issues with me, So yeah, let the satary cap be
Speaker 2: the excuse.
Speaker 3: Uh, fan Joe. He said that C. J.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson trade was a salary cap issue, a salary
Speaker 2: cap thing, and I'm fine with it.
Speaker 3: Just don't let the young guys know like y'all did. Hey,
Speaker 3: Uh what what hold on? Man?
Speaker 2: Basically, he said the situation was a big fat Joe
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator. He said the they traded him because
Speaker 2: it was a salary cap issue. Now, they didn't save
Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, maybe a couple of hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But moving forward, because you got who you
Speaker 2: got coming up, o Jo. You got that big dog
Speaker 2: up front. J Carter, he gonna it's gonna take some break,
Speaker 2: big bread. And then you got you're gonna have brother.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have brother Mitchell, he gonna be coming up.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have Cooper de Jon he gonna be coming up.
Speaker 3: Right, so they clean the house.
Speaker 2: So you know, but it happened, Bro, You got a rig,
Speaker 2: you got an opportunity to come back, you got a ring,
Speaker 2: and somebody wanted you. When somebody trade for you, to y'all,
Speaker 2: let me know what you think about this team. When
Speaker 2: somebody trade for you, they're telling you they want you. Okay,
Speaker 2: though the team didn't want me, but this new team
Speaker 2: traded for me. They gave up something to give me,
Speaker 2: So clearly they see the value in me, even if
Speaker 2: the whole team doesn't.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 1: C J he real passionate, man. He's he's very vocal.
Speaker 1: That's that's his that's his his biggest attribute.
Speaker 3: His passion.
Speaker 1: The way that he play the game is like that's
Speaker 1: how he is off the field too, though he's very
Speaker 1: he's very vocal, very passionate.
Speaker 3: So if it's the way that he's feeling, you really
Speaker 3: can't convince some otherwise.
Speaker 1: So, like, even though that the Houston Texans did want him,
Speaker 1: they wanted them, they traded for him, they gave away
Speaker 1: compensation for him to be a part of their team.
Speaker 3: CJ is still gonna let let Philly know how you feel.
Speaker 3: That's just that's just how he is. That's how you are. Yeah, uncle,
Speaker 3: you know I talked. I talked to CJ all the time. Man,
Speaker 3: CG and I are really close.
Speaker 4: Like like T said, he's very passionate about especially about
Speaker 4: the way the game, the game of ball in general,
Speaker 4: the way it is and some of the things that
Speaker 4: that that he knows what's going on. I think he
Speaker 4: allows that passion and love for the game. He gets
Speaker 4: that it's business at the end.
Speaker 2: Of the day, always has been, always will be. And
Speaker 2: it's tough though. It's tough when you devote so much,
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, think about it. You getting
Speaker 2: out there and you can't walk until Wednesday, and you
Speaker 2: out there hobbling, and you doing everything you can to
Speaker 2: give them everything you can and then they do something
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely get it.
Speaker 7: I'm trying one dad sore, three of you guys, Like,
Speaker 7: what's it? What is it like kind of being married
Speaker 7: to a situation. You may have bought a home in
Speaker 7: this city or whatever it may be. You raised the
Speaker 7: family here and because it's time to blow it up
Speaker 7: and we want to get younger players, and what's that
Speaker 7: like that transition like having to know you gotta leave.
Speaker 4: Right, you understand it, You understand it, see him like
Speaker 4: I already knew. At some point, I knew my time
Speaker 4: was coming. I didn't know when that day would be.
Speaker 4: Obviously I was able to squeeze out ten years normally
Speaker 4: ten years to your cut off point, no matter how
Speaker 4: good you are. If you go down the list of
Speaker 4: some of the great receivers, that have been very few
Speaker 4: that stayed on one team for a very long time.
Speaker 4: The two that I could think of, maybe the longest,
Speaker 4: might have been Jerry Rices and Larry Gerald. You know,
Speaker 4: Jerry at some point left, but Larry, for Jeral's one
Speaker 4: of the few I could think of that stayed and
Speaker 4: won an.
Speaker 3: Organization for a very long time. I knew my time
Speaker 3: was coming.
Speaker 4: So while I was there, wherever I was at, whatever cars,
Speaker 4: I was there well often to play in my hand.
Speaker 3: See, I had fun.
Speaker 4: So when that time did come, you know, I was
Speaker 4: at peace with it because I understood the business side
Speaker 4: of it, which is why I chose to have fun
Speaker 4: instead that I understood the politics and businesside that came
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: You know it's going to happen, but it doesn't make
Speaker 2: it any eiier, Right, what you or what you give
Speaker 2: to that organization, all those painkilling injections that I took,
Speaker 2: all that, all all that, those those toor doll shots
Speaker 2: that I took just to be able to go play,
Speaker 2: and now I have one down year, Like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 2: Seven consecutive Pro Bowls, first Team All Pro through a
Speaker 2: five yard all that. It's tough side to you, Hey, T,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you don't like, yeah that is
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Damn, I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 2: one of them John Elway, and I'm gonna get me
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen T with one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's real. It's real, cymvil for for real.
Speaker 1: Just and just to add to what what o Cho
Speaker 1: and Uncle's saying, especially, it's it's today's media and Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter and Ian Rappaport them guys get the news before
Speaker 1: you do, you know what I mean. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the part that I've seen be really impactful negatively to
Speaker 1: some players. I had one of my teammates here in
Speaker 1: the Saints. He was a running back and we bro
Speaker 1: we chilling and training camp, playing the game, and he
Speaker 1: just scrolling on Twitter. Bro, he just got released by
Speaker 1: the Saints. He had no idea, like, no idea, and
Speaker 1: it was real.
Speaker 3: He got released.
Speaker 1: They kept one of the rookie running backs that they had,
Speaker 1: they had drafted so on. He had no idea, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the part that hurt mine.
Speaker 2: The fact that the matter is is what Ocho and
Speaker 2: I we go around sometimes I'm like, bro, when Adam
Speaker 2: Schefter and.
Speaker 3: These guys be talking, where do you think they're getting
Speaker 3: that from?
Speaker 2: They getting that from the teams, They're getting that from
Speaker 2: the general managers, They're getting that from owners, They're getting
Speaker 2: that from player personnel director. They're getting that from NFL sources.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, they dude, I mean Adam Schefter making you know,
Speaker 2: lots of money. These were these are insiders. They making
Speaker 2: a lot of money, and they built up great relationships
Speaker 2: because and this is why they say anonymous. This is
Speaker 2: why they say sources, because the moment they give up
Speaker 2: one source, they're done. I hope you've made a lot
Speaker 2: of money because if you give up one source, nobody
Speaker 2: will ever go on record with you again. Nobody will
Speaker 2: ever tell you ish. That's why Adam Schefter got all
Speaker 2: those phones, That's why he taking calls.
Speaker 3: He's live on air taking calls the may no dummy calls, trust.
Speaker 7: Me, that's crazy. That's why I got so much love
Speaker 7: for the King. You know we see out the eye
Speaker 7: when it come to King j James. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I got so much love for the King because these
Speaker 7: organizations got the ability to move you where they want
Speaker 7: you to be, but you never kind of got the
Speaker 7: opportunity to pick where you want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you one question I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get out of you guys. Way uh going going through
Speaker 1: your discography? Man, what what's it like to have a
Speaker 1: song with the legendary DMX made it?
Speaker 6: Honestly, bro, Like, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 7: I can't tell you because the way that happened, I
Speaker 7: really wasn't involved on the process of that. That was
Speaker 7: Joinner Lucas's team and him and X had a relationship
Speaker 7: and right before X had passed, I believe that might
Speaker 7: have been the last verse. Joiner told me that he
Speaker 7: might have laid before he passed, had a great relationship
Speaker 7: and they had laid a song and one day Joiner
Speaker 7: hit me, he was like, yo, I got this joint
Speaker 7: me and X, did I.
Speaker 6: Want you to get on it? And of course, I
Speaker 6: was honored to be a part of it is X.
Speaker 7: I grew up trying to be like X, from rapping
Speaker 7: like him to trying to act like them in Exit Wounds,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 6: So it was just a blessing to be a part
Speaker 6: of it, honestly.
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, but Tie, I know you got to get
Speaker 3: out of here. Man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time looking out and when you get
Speaker 2: some more time, hey, stop back by with us again.
Speaker 3: Man, We love to have it. We appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3: Hold on what you got, uh hey, tell us about
Speaker 3: the YouTube channel you getting.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just really man, being a big fan of
Speaker 1: you guys, showing everything you guys doing. I'm looking to
Speaker 1: get into my own I want to talk O line.
Speaker 1: I want to talk on line D line, get some
Speaker 1: details of the trenches. How Kobe and Peyton Manning had
Speaker 1: the detailed show and they really broke down what.
Speaker 3: They're seeing and how they analyze the game.
Speaker 1: I want to be one of those people and kind
Speaker 1: of really take over that that avenue for O line,
Speaker 1: D line to words easily digestible, so I can I
Speaker 1: can be an educator in that space. So you know
Speaker 1: what technique is used. You know who that sack is
Speaker 1: on and how it happened, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a part of my YouTube show, So
Speaker 1: Toronto Upstairs show coming.
Speaker 3: So man, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: You already got a partner, We got some we got
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Speaker 3: Yeah you got you got you know, Big Willy Andson.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah sure believe me.
Speaker 4: I mean we believe we'd be real good in that space,
Speaker 4: especially from an informative standpoint, playing a playing the old
Speaker 4: line position.
Speaker 3: Man, he's really gonna be there for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what TV We really appreciate Daddy YouTube
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Speaker 6: A shout out to tea appreciated something.
Speaker 3: Yep, the volume