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He's a five 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: time pro bowler out of the yard out of Arkansas 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Pine Bluff from Belleville, Illinois, and he still holds the 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: record for the fastest offensive lineman for forty yard dash 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: time in the Combine history at four seven one. Here 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: he is Tron Armstead turn how you doing, mad? 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: How you doing? Just skip over that on Yeah, Let's 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: let us get through. Let's get through the reading. We 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: get to this. 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Supplies are limited and once 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: they're gone, they're gone, so please grab yours while supplies last, Yes, 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: O Joe. In the twenty thirteen Combine, Tehran recorded the 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: fastest forty for an offensive lineman in Combine history, a 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: record that still stands to this day. 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: It was close. 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson ran four seven two, but Toront's record of 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: four to seven one is close. And if I'm not mistaken, 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: they're the only two offensive linemans that's run in the 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: four sevens. They've been a couple of runs low four eights, 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: but no other lineman other than Tehran at four seven one. 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson at four seven two have been in the 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: offensive lineman have been in the four seventh so as 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: of yet. So now we're thirteen years in counting twenty 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty fifteen, and Toront still held that record. Turan, Look, 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: you're coming out of Arkansas Pine Bluff and it's not 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: like it used to be. There used to be a 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: plethora of guys coming out of HBCUs and so that 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: would have been nothing. 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: But here it is. 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: Now we're in the twenty tens and we get an 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, you're three times swack All Conference player, and 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: you go to the Combine. What were your expectations? Did 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: you know you had this kountability in you? 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure. 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: I knew I had the talent and the speed and 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: agility to showcase. I just had to get to the showcase. 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: So it was really huge for me to get that 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Combine invite. That was that was monumental for me trying 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: to get more exposure, to get more eyes to my 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: to my tape. So I knew that I was going 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: to go. I was going for the record for sure, 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Like before I even before we got to Indy, I 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: was going for the record out I wanted to run. 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: Faster honestly than that. But I'll take the four seven Hey, 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: but six four three five, that's that's what I get 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: ready to ask you. 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: I'll get to ask you how tall you were and 69 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: how much you weighed to be able to run that. Listen, 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: I ain't running before five, so technically by you right 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: there with. 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: Me, right there on your neck. 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was six six five three old six 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,279 Speaker 1: I believe three or four at the combine. 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Wow, so you knew, you knew? So what was if 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm not, I don't know what the record was? What 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: was the record? What was the fastest forty time for 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman before you broke it? It was four 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: a four for a four. While you didn't break it, 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: you obliterately needed it. 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: I needed it. I needed all that. I needed that 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: that my moment. 83 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: I was on NFL network dot com NFL dot com 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: for like two hours. 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I needed all of it. So the scouts can go 86 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: watch my film. 87 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so now you go run that forty yard dashtime 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: you run four seven one, and that's really the order. 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 90 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: They want you to jump high, Yeah, they want you 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: to do too. But speed is what captivates their tension. 92 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Now you an offensive lineman. You never gonna be able 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: to unwind that four seven one again, But you just 94 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: wanted to put that on tape to let them see, Look, 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: you got a phenomenal athlete. 96 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: Yes, I went to Arkansas Pine Bluff. 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're gonna downgrade me talk about who 98 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: did I flock and who did I play against, But 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come and showcase my skills and let you 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: see and then the kiffs fall what they may. So 101 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: when you read that time, did you know, like, okay, 102 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: I got their undivided attention. 103 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm about to get drafted. 104 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: And know for sure we have special talents down there 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: in these HBCUs all across the country. 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: We do. So I just needed the opportunity to showcase 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: my skill. I knew what time it was. I was 108 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: going for the vertical record too. 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I missed that by half an inch, so like I 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: knew that I was going to be able to make 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: that splash, and like I say again, I needed it. 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: I really needed that chance to get all the scouts 113 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: just to watch my fam I wouldn't ask you for 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: no favorites, but just check out the film and see 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: the dominance Yeah. 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: Now, also when I look at the officer line position, 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: as fast as you were, you know, as far as 118 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: running the forty, did you have an advantage as far 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: as your footwork goes when it came to playing offensive 120 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: line as well? Because most of the time, obviously, you know, 121 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: playing officer line is all about your hand placement in 122 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: your footwork and we always being being balanced. 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: Did that give you the advantage? Yeah? 124 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: No, My athletic says to my agility that those were 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: my strengths when I played throughout my twelve year career 126 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: because I'm six five, three or four, not the biggest tackle, 127 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily the strongest season. But I'm on your ass. 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: So was the ball snap you know what I mean? 129 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: A lot of jump says, I had to use that 130 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: in my game. So, uh findal ways to play in 131 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: my strength, and I was using my speed. 132 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Okay? 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: Were you always an offensive lineman cuts out? I mean 134 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: we were that kind of fast twitch. You might have 135 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: been a you might have been a tight end at 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: some point in time in your career. 137 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: Were you always an offensive lineman? Back in my hometown Cochi, Illinois, 138 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: we went off of speed. That's what we do. 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: We run, So I was a defensive lineman in off 140 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: of Salami, but I would go play seven on seven 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: with the guys corner, safety, receiver, whatever. Yeah, it really 142 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: was like that, really was like that, you can't do 143 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that shit no more. But I really was like that, 144 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I can't move like that no morel too with fit. 145 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Look you mentioned you say so you were thirty four, 146 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: thirty four right now thirty three thirty three to run 147 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: you walk away from the game. You're only thirty three 148 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: lineman normally played in at thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight. 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: We saw Jackie Slayter play twenty years and he retired 150 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: at forty plus. And you see linemen especially, I don't 151 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: know your injury history. That's why, that's why I'm going 152 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: with this. Why walk away from the game and all 153 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: that chip out there? You see that money, so how 154 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: it is. It's a lot of freshly trended money out there, 155 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: for sure, But yeah it is. Yes, indeed, I got 156 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: a man. 157 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: God blessed me with so many great moments and great 158 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: years and a great career. 159 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Uh, my injury history is extensive. It is, it is. 160 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: It is long, and I've been through it, and that's 161 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: really the part for me is my body. 162 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: You know, I love this game. 163 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I mentally, cerebrally, I can play the game for forever, 164 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: you know. But it's just physically and I'm and I'm 165 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: okay with saying that that that my body is slowing 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: down its movements and abilities, that I just can't perform 167 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: at at the same level. 168 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: And I take so much pride in my. 169 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: Film up that, Yeah, man, it has to look a 170 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: certain way, like every time I step on the field, 171 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: that has to look pro Bowl, all pro like. That's 172 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: the that's the brand I wanted to leave, so I 173 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: never want to leave. Got out there getting my getting 174 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: whooped on. That ain't that can't happen. 175 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: You know what, It takes a lot. 176 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: It takes a lot of awareness, self awareness at that 177 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: for a player of your caliber, or any player that's 178 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: played in the NFL, that's played at a high level, 179 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: to understand what it's time to call the quist. Most 180 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: of the time we will ride, we'll ride the ride 181 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: the car to the wheels fall off, you know, regard 182 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: for you know what, I don't look the same. At 183 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: what moment did you realize that, you know what, I 184 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: really don't have it to be to. 185 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: Play at the All Pro or or or Pro Bowl 186 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: level anymore. What moment did it hit you? 187 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been dealing with a knee since my third 188 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: year in the league, but it's been with me from 189 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: for my entire career. 190 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: So man, just I'll speak on this year alone. 191 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: I didn't see a practice field like at all, and 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: not because I didn't want to or the Dolphins just 193 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: wanted me to rest. It's like I literally couldn't walk, 194 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't after a game on Sunday. I 195 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to walk on my own, you know, 196 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: under my own power until Wednesday, Thursday. So I was 197 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: only able to play under under under the payment is 198 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't put any pressure on my knee. 199 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: So it was like, I can't keep doing that to myself. Man, 200 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: we uh it comes to. 201 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: That time, Yeah, thirty three and you now you get 202 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: to be forty and all of a sudden, you're like, man, 203 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: what my livers shutting down, my kidneys and all the 204 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: other things from taking those pain medicine Because I know 205 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen linemen have to take vikinging. Just 206 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: the practice I get, I get the game. I get 207 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: the game. I really do because you know that's once 208 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: a week, but the practice ahead. 209 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's crazy's and that's what I was the 210 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: norm for sure. 211 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't want to fall in that cycle, 212 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: right right. 213 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: But the thing Azcho was saying, it takes su space 214 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: because to the cat, to the lay person, they don't, 215 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: they don't, they don't, they don't really see what you know. 216 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: And the thing is is that when you it's kind 217 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: of hard to let go and not practice because as 218 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. 219 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: Sets for everything. 220 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: You weren't going to jump set when you paid a 221 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: lazy fat don't we And and the thing is you got 222 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: to practice that during the course of a week. It's 223 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: hard for an offensive lineman to just go out there 224 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: on a Sunday jump set. Quick said, hey, stab whatever 225 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: the case may be, and just go. And you going 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: against the best of the best. You said it, you 227 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: said it's the reps. It's especially for office line play. 228 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: We were so based. 229 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: It's based on technique and uh toim and and all 230 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the hand placement and not not to mention the cohesiveness 231 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: of everyone, because you know, we're the only unit that 232 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: never comes off the field outside of the quarterback. 233 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: That's one person. 234 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: But we're the only unit that never comes off the field, 235 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: so that chemistry and time and it just is really 236 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: tough not getting those practice reps and then preparing mentally 237 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: for Max Crosby and Miles Garrett. 238 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: And that's not okay, keep doing that, dealing with TJ. Wattson. 239 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: I can't keep doing that, man with no practice. 240 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, boys, like you said, you talk 241 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: about your offense Tehran, you talk about your t excuse me, 242 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: you talk about your offensive linement, and like, okay, they 243 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: get somebody else in there to practice it. But you 244 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: and that left guard, y'all need to be cohesive. You 245 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: need to like be on the same level and pass 246 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: it off because if you're on different levels, guy, go 247 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: hit that crack and now everybody's like, man, y'all hate 248 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: judge it, but see, you might be a little slow, 249 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: he might've been a little fast, and now all of 250 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: a sudden you give up a sack when y'all should 251 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: have had that situation covered. I know, I look and 252 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: everybody doesn't do it the same because I remember practicing 253 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: with Gary Zimmerman, who's the who's the two decade All 254 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: decade player in the eighties and the nineties. 255 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: He went to the Hall of Fame, but he didn't like. 256 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: He didn't like me, the chip block, he didn't like. 257 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: He like sharpy. 258 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: Don't touch he said, if I if I jumped, said it, man, 259 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: you hit him, you on the knock him inside, and 260 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: now I can't get him, and everybody goes back. 261 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: I got so don't touch it. 262 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the real thing, especially especially if you have 263 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a big physical tight end like like yourself. 264 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: So like you hitting him too hard? 265 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: He getting momentum, he getting like a joke into the 266 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: to the nside move you know what. I got him 267 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: to get out the way, get open, get over Jonathan 268 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: ja O. Now I played with j O Jonathan Auga. 269 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Whos the first battlet Hall of Famer. He like, hey, 270 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: knock him, knock him out if you can't. 271 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: For me. And depends on who it is man who 272 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: over there exactly? 273 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: But you, like you said, certain offensive linemen they want 274 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: some I mean, hey, stick and stay or some guys 275 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: like don't touch it. But like you said, that practice 276 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: like for an offensive lineman and seeing like like I said, 277 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: I've worked with Zam for like four years, work with 278 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: Jail for two years, and to see what they go 279 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: through because they're working on their sets. 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: They ate, they kicking. Uh, am I gonna stab him? 281 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: Am I gonna quick? Sitting? Am I gonna jump setting? 282 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: What am I gonna do? And not? In the game? 283 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: Man, I want to jump set? But that need bother you. Now, 284 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I can't. 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't see. I can't do what I 286 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: want to do. 287 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean the mind is and say do that that. 288 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: You can't do that? No, you can't do it no more. 289 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: When it came to playing the left tackle position, now, 290 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: I think about my approach to playing receiver when it 291 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: came to DB's and studying each DV every week and 292 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: understanding what type of dB I'm going against? You got 293 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: some that are quick, some of that fast, some of 294 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 4: the physical, some of that you know, playoff or whatever 295 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: may be. What was your approach when it came to 296 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: playing defensive ends each week? 297 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: Was was your Was. 298 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 4: Your approach different as far as from from a technical standpoint? 299 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Do you change up things you did depending on who 300 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: you were playing that week? 301 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: We always I've always said this is a show that 302 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot of parallels to me, a lot of similarities. 303 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: Between old line tackling tackling d N and receiver in corner. Yes, sir, 304 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: like that that one on one matchup. It's a lot 305 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: of dynamics there that that's parallel to me. 306 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: The technique that goes intoward tendencies, like you said, is depressing. 307 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: If I if I jab inside, what are you doing 308 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: with his hands? Same thing as I'm bringing the defensive end. 309 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at their alignment. First, how wide is the 310 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: getting and then it get off? You know, how well 311 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: is he time and a snap? Then I want to 312 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: see his home runs. What's what's his go to move 313 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: that he's consistently winning on. What he's winning on the 314 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: most I break that down. That's the one I want 315 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: to take away. I want to take that one away, 316 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: and then all right, what's his second highest percentage move 317 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: to count. I'm taking those top two away throughout my career. 318 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: That was the goal, my objective of game planning. I 319 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: want to take them top two winners away. Now, if 320 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: you beat me with a third, you you you're a 321 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: bad man, but you're going you're gonna have to get that. 322 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: But for me, I was taking those top two, top 323 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: two moves away. 324 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: And one of the things that I've always liked to 325 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: ask players that that, once they're done playing, who gave 326 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: the the most fits? 327 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: For me? 328 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: And everybody asked me all the time, listen, you played 329 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: a very long time, you're going against them. I've always 330 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: had to deal with the number one dB and everyone asked, 331 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: you know who gave you fits? 332 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: And obviously the one person I say every. 333 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: Time that you see had hell you lock everybody up, 334 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: but had to be super strong. 335 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: He asked you about nobody will would you were talking? 336 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: Hey? Who? So you just want to give him the 337 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: flowers for doing that? 338 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I had some battles. I had some of 339 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: these guys I say too many times like I didn't. 340 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have these robbery going on. But 341 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: you know that's how the schedule to go. I played 342 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: as a ton was always one of those. He's one 343 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: of those you got it. You can make sure he 344 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: breaks like he's one of those for short. But the 345 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: guy that gave me the most fits, and I've probably 346 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: seen him the most and he is still underrated in 347 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: my eyes. 348 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: Robert Quinn. 349 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, Man, oh that first double Quinn, he's been 350 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: in that edge. He listened Robert Quinn, he got he 351 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: probably got the most sacks on me, Like out of everybody, 352 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: he's the person that say I got to on t 353 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: stall like he he probably the one person that can 354 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: say that, right, Okay, okay, that dude gat Yeah. I 355 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: don't even want to see him whost career. 356 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I'm cool, friends, nothing, I don't 357 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: want to run in the Robert. 358 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: That's dope because if it's really it's really like a 359 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: dang it is because like you said, they're getting that white, 360 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: they're getting that what they're getting to that ye nine 361 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And now hey you're like, Okay, I know he gonna 362 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: come wide, but what if he dropping bull me? 363 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: Okay, now he gonna hit me, and then he's spin inside. 364 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: So I got I got all that going into I 365 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: gotta look at him. Okay, what is he doing? 366 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Now? 367 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm kicking. 368 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: I can only kick so far because the damn cornerback 369 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: the hell I keep kicking, i'ma be in his damn 370 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: last So I can only get brother like two picks. See, 371 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: and then I got to say, and I gotta tell you, hey, 372 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: I gotta be I don't want him to get it. 373 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't want him to bend the edge on me 374 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: because he, like you said, Miles can ben ben, But 375 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: I also I also don't want him to wax on, 376 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: wax out, been crossed my face all that were. 377 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Trying to process all that, man, and they lined up 378 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: in this way nine and these athletes are only getting 379 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: They're only getting bigger, faster, stronger. 380 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's man, it's it's it's tough to deal with. 381 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Like Michaeh playing Michael Parsons for the first time, it 382 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: was Christmas Day, we in Miami, beautiful day. 383 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: We smacked the cowboys. That ain't part of the story. 384 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: But seeing see Michael Parsons for the first time in 385 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: real life, it was different. Bro, Like you are You're 386 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: way too big to be moving as fast being that well, like, 387 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: it's just the athlete. The evolution of the athlete is 388 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: just it's becoming something something different. 389 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: Man. Cool, I'm cool, y'all. 390 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: And also those guys, especially watching you know, playing against 391 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: Derreck Thomas. But the guy that I had the most 392 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: respect for, I only played against him for two years 393 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: because I was on in Baltimore two years. I've never 394 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: seen a guy here size that quick. Was that Jabon 395 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: curse the freak man, freak the first time. The first 396 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: time I played man, hey, I turned about saying, hey, 397 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: y'all better talk. He was gone, called block, dude. He 398 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: took a step down because I got I had to step, 399 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: so I stepped with it. 400 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: Man. By the time I put my foot down, he 401 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: was on my shoulder. That's a bad feeling. 402 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: Well he get to your he get to your shoulder 403 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: and you ain't he hey, you might, that's a bad feeling. 404 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: He saw the picture I was. 405 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: I just saw Javon cursing the airport leaving Philly day 406 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 4: before yesterday. 407 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: Who before he got that before he hurt the ankles. 408 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: Joe, dude, was I'm talking about you talking about somebody 409 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: like he's like six four two fifty, I'm talking about all. 410 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about five big gloves. I mean his heads 411 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: look like a catcher man. Did kurtse get in there? 412 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: Did he get into the hall? Nah? Nah? Nah? 413 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: He uh he would? I mean Tennessee, he was at Tennessee, 414 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: his best year Tennessee. He goes to uh Philly and 415 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: then he had he messed up his ankle, okay, and 416 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: it messed up his years. But back in the day, 417 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, dealing with DT Bruce Smith was fast too. 418 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: Bruce could be in for a guy his size. Normally, 419 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: guys to seventy they can't be in like that. Bruce 420 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: be parallel to the ground. That movie that you see 421 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: that you see a von Miller do where he dip 422 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: the hit and come down on one hand. 423 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: And get back up. Bruce could do that at two seventy. Yeah. 424 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: So hey, that's why you guys make the big bucks. 425 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: That's why you guys are the highest pad on the 426 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: offensive line because you guys got the toughest assignment because 427 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: you're dealing with like I said, basically it's like Ginger 428 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Robins and Fredistaire. He's coming forward, but you got a 429 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: mirror what he does moving backwards. And the thing is, 430 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: you got a target that's sitting right there, whether it's 431 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: and basically everybody in the shotgun now. So you can 432 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: only set so much before he sets your ass in 433 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback leaf or he reach over the top. 434 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: And you agree. 435 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Listen, Jo, we need some more money, man, Oh lord, 436 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: we need some more. 437 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: We need some more that money. We need it all right, 438 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: check this out. 439 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: Saint Quon Barkler is coming off his best year of 440 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: his career, which ending of him becoming a Super Bowl 441 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: champion with the Eagles, and now he's gracing the cover 442 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: of Man twenty six. Sat Quan was asked if he 443 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: were retired at the top of his game or going 444 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: to the wheels came off. I'll probably be one of 445 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: those guys that will be out of nowhere. I'll probably 446 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: just wake up one day, whether it's the next year 447 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: or two or four, and just be like, yeah, it's over. 448 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever lose that passion. The competitive 449 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: nature is always going to be there. I like, probably 450 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: my favorite player of all time is Barry Sanders, so 451 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: probably similar to that. Maybe one day, like out of nowhere, 452 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: I'll probably just be bawling and just be like, yeah, 453 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: it's a quiz t. 454 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: Damn. 455 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: We just talked about that because your situation was just 456 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: like out of no were like, yeah, yep, a lot 457 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot that sudden. Really, the ones in that circle, 458 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: they they knew the situation, and I was trying to 459 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: push you. I was looking for options to continue, but 460 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's over for sure, like I knew it, 461 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: not as sudden as like Barry Sanders or or Calvin Johnson. 462 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: Saquon is incredible Hall of Fame talent. For sure, it'll 463 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: be a he he can't walk away all of a sudden. 464 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: We need to see some more of that man. That's 465 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: a special talent. 466 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: What the difference is between them situation and Calvin and Barry? 467 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: They got tired of losing, all right? 468 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: For sure? 469 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: That he's in a situation where he's I mean, you 470 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: just went to the Super Bowl. Now if you start 471 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: to lose, but Barry, Barry got to the NFC Championship 472 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: Game in ninety one and never got that close again. 473 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: So Barry got tired of losing. Barry wasn't injured. 474 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you talked about the guy had average 475 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yards. 476 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: For ten seats for sure to go. Yeah, Calvin's the 477 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: same thing. 478 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: Calvin like bro Man, we ain't getting no closer, And 479 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm going out here and doing all this to my body? 480 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: What amout really doing this for when I don't really 481 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: have a realistic chance of getting to in winning a 482 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl? So I think that's the different. Say quand 483 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: a different situation. Now, if he was at the Giants, yeah, 484 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: he probably. 485 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: Just goes like one day I'm not here. 486 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: But in the situation where he is with that offensive 487 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: line without offense with that defense. 488 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't 489 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: think he. 490 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Just wanted the money different too, Yeah, I mean the 491 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: money's all money different. 492 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: Obviously different, and obviously he just got paid it. Gave 493 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: a nice, nice, nice, nice nice Mili years and sure 494 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: take one for a running back for that position, obviously 495 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: with a position not as being as valued as it 496 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: is now, but being somewhere now where they appreciate you 497 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: for what you're doing and they showed you love. I 498 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: don't see safe coming and retiring until he has that 499 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: that coming to coming to grass moment. 500 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: You know what, I can't do it like I used 501 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: to explosion the same way. 502 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: I think that'll be the only time he actually called 503 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: it quits when he realized, you know what, I can't 504 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: get I can't bend that corner like I used to. 505 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: I can't hit I can't hit that A. But that 506 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: that be a C gap like I want that that 507 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: that want to be it and that that ain't. 508 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: Probably twenty six, twenty seven, he got twenty eight years. 509 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: Just but here's the thing, Joe Lane Johnson still there, 510 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: My Lott is still there. 511 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: Jersey Line still there and the Dickerson still there. 512 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: So it's not like you see some of these off 513 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: some of these guys, the offensive line get old and 514 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: they starting to move with them out. 515 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: That's the best offensive line in football. They're not going. 516 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: It's not like they're about to drop off a cliff 517 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: in the next year too, not at all. And they 518 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: got them all in the contract. They just did Lane's contract. 519 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: They just didn't buy a lot of contract. They just 520 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: just did Dickerson contract. Jergensen is a rook that was 521 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: on a rookie contract. Nah, he ain't going anywhere. 522 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: And you know, you know, it's funny when you think 523 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: about it. 524 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: As good as Saquon is and as good as that 525 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: offensive line is, even if sa Quon was losing step, 526 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: let's say it maybe maybe in three. 527 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Years, if that, with an offensive line like that. 528 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: He will still be able to do what he needs 529 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: to do because that much better up front. 530 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: So he won't be able to go eighty yards with 531 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: anybody without anybody touching him. So now he might have 532 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: to break a tackle two yards from the line of 533 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: scripmen have the pose to runing through those holes that 534 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: my old slow ass could probably get five yards I 535 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: ain't gonna hit my head on the goal post like him, 536 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: but I might get five yards tea. 537 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: I gave about three or four yard drunk fall four, 538 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: I gave about three four. 539 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: The them makes hurt. 540 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: I can imagine now I hadn't gotten hit on the 541 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: man to a two decade. 542 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: I shot him like ice. You know how you drop. 543 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: Even remember they not hitting like we was back then. 544 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: Now it's different. Oh, I don't forgot how to fall. 545 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: I don't forgot how to take it again. 546 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: You see you start looking hey, you know how t 547 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 2: when you go like when you leave the season and 548 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: you come back and you got to go to training camp. 549 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: You got to relearning. Those don't tingle like they did. 550 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: Like once you get going like training camp and now 551 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: you go to the season, they don't tingle them and 552 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: not twenty years. 553 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 3: Man, I be get that. I run them Michelle across. 554 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: It's a zone. 555 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: You're running through the zone. They gonna get fined. They 556 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: gonna get fine though they might hit you what they 557 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: gonna I won't be fine. They might get fined, but 558 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: I won't be fine. That's that's the word. Yo oh cho, 559 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: you switch it up on me. Man, you usually have 560 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: on the Cardier shaves. I got seven pair of Cardier 561 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: saves over. 562 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 3: I was gonna be tonight. Hey, you know on see 563 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: what you got? What you got? You know what I mean. 564 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: We're in there right now. It's time. 565 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 4: I keep wearing the same ones over and over. I'm 566 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: trying to say the rest of them, you know, for 567 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: football season when I'm on TV. I got I got, 568 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: I got strings, right, I got a different color to 569 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 4: match each suit. 570 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah that's a different bran. 571 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: They got a different color of that mass suit. But 572 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: I gotta see you. I gotta see you, dude. 573 00:25:59,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Though. 574 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: Information right off of Twitter he from Canada, brou he 575 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 4: got everything, unbelieving. 576 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: I need it. I need it week. Okay, I'm gonna 577 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: switch up. You gonna put your door. 578 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: Says that when he's a bet, he'll have rookie organize 579 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: his locker. 580 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: Take a listen, take a look at this video. Guys, 581 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna bet. What I'm gonna do. 582 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a rookie organized by locker every day. 583 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: If Flacko told me to do this every day, I 584 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 5: would do it. I go to him every day. I said, hey, bro, 585 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 5: you good? You need anything? Right, then, because it's respect 586 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: you feel me, I feel that. 587 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: I ain't organ So when you came in as a rookie, 588 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: what did the bets have you do? 589 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Toron On bets were pretty pretty good to me, man, 590 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Evans, being Grubbs, Zach Street, those guys were pretty 591 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: good to me. I just had to get him yeah, yeah, okay, 592 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: get him breakfast every Saturday, uh food for the plane, snacks, 593 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: toilet tries. I had to bring that type stuff to 594 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: the facility, deoderant, body wash, all that good stuff. So 595 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: trying to find a ride to Walmart because Uber didn't 596 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: exist in the in twenty thirteen, So trying to find 597 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: a ride to Walmart, get the stuff for the guys 598 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: and haul it into the facility. 599 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: But they were they were pretty they were pretty smooth 600 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 3: on me. Yeah that's what it was. 601 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they want breakfast, sandwiches, they wanted doughnuts, they 602 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: wanted chicken the company, they wanted Popeye to come to 603 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: the plane. I'm like, come on, guys, y'all, bro y'all 604 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: know man, And back then, you know we drove, we know, 605 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: we drove drove to the airport, but we had our 606 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: own hangar. 607 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: So you drive up, go get on the walk up 608 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: and get on the plane. 609 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Man, you better I was driving so fast driving trying 610 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: to get there. Bro, I'm on a rookie contract. Man, 611 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't afford now twelve hundred and fifty 612 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: dollar fine. 613 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: Man, damn. 614 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: I remember remember them day I received a group. I 615 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: mean obviously the vestment I came into a rookie and 616 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: since Sinnati. Man, it was it was love, you know 617 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: that there was. There was a certain amount of respect 618 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 4: that that I showed them, a certain amount of respect 619 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: that they showed as well. 620 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: But you remember Darnay. 621 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: Scott, Yeah, Darnay Scott, Danny Farmer was there at the time, 622 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: Ron Dugans there and it was. 623 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: It was all love. 624 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: It was nothing to that magnitude like some of the 625 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: stories that I that I hear. 626 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: No, I think we have the hardest time with that. 627 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: The receiving room is always that that respect trying to 628 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: buck It's always a hard time with that. 629 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 630 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: We had a situation in Miami last year, not a 631 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: big situation, but uh tyr Tyreek Hill have bought one 632 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: of the rookies Christmas gifts and the rookie didn't like it. 633 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Really like what, like it's cool, but you know, youd 634 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: give me something better, you know, something bigger. You make 635 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: it thirty eight a year, you know what I'm saying. 636 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: And Tyreek was really hurt by that, like he was 637 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: really upset. 638 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: That, Hey, what did it get? I'm trying to remember. 639 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: It was like it was like a like a Gucci 640 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: cologne said or something like that, some type of designer 641 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: cologne said. And this is this young boy, he twenty 642 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: one years old in Miami. Man, he probably don't even 643 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: have no colown wearing no colonnia. 644 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't want that. 645 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: He wanted to try rig the boum something with a 646 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: little bit more more splash to it. 647 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not even plus you'll sing it. 648 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta sing at training camp and not 649 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: no damn fight song either, because I don't nobody, ain't 650 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: nobody go to your school, but you so you got 651 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: to say something. Whoever the latest see us now like 652 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: probably not either be Kendrin Lamar Drake or whomever. 653 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: The hot rapper is right now. 654 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: Back then, you know, R and B was still big 655 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: when I was coming up and guys singing Teddy Pitt, 656 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: the guy who was singing, uh, Luther was singing Barry 657 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: why he the undefeated song? 658 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: They did the thing y'all have, Did y'all have a 659 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: rookie show? Sure? For sure? 660 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Mike and Dany he was, he was big on that 661 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: and Shahpagne was two back in New Orleans. Uh, we 662 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: would do the song. Most of the guys would would 663 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: do R and B Old school R and B. 664 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 665 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: I feel like the and you guys probably have a 666 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: different song, but I feel like that undefeated song when 667 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: the rookie starts singing it, and that rookie show the 668 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: whole crowd. 669 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: On Jordan in it's fantation when I see you Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 670 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah he started that. 671 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: You get to the first thirty he get to the 672 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: first thirty seconds. Yeah, he won't because everybody gonna yeah. 673 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: Hey, you know what that song? That song right there 674 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: is like when the Swag surface song come on. It 675 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: don't matter where you at or what you doing, everybody 676 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 4: join it in. 677 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, grab somebody show. 678 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 6: Everybody. 679 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah that's it a. 680 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: Uh New Orleans that here we come to get you, 681 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: We call to get you. 682 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: That was or that super Dog used to rock Man. 683 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: I missed I missed them. I missed that place. I 684 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: missed those fans team matter the fact. Think you went 685 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: the Arkansas Pine Bluff, Yes, sir, as matter of fact. 686 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: When I was at Link you know about Lincoln University, right, yeah, 687 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: and we when I was at Lengths and we played 688 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: Arkansas Pine Bluff, they came up, they came on down. 689 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: There is a coil, so steal water whichever what it is, 690 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: but it's back in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety seven. 691 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: We played Lengths in my freshman year and Lengths and 692 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: beat us bro real. It was bad. It was bad. 693 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: I know, y'all took the bus. So we took the 694 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 2: bus everywhere. It didn't matter if it was three hours 695 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: or if it was twelve hours. 696 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: You owned that. I was on that bus. He's on 697 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: that bus. Tear it up. Good days and well see. 698 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: And the way we did it is like the starting 699 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: offense and the starting defense on one bus and then 700 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: the backups on another bus. 701 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: Y'all offense and defense. But were the offense bus and defense? 702 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: But no, hell no, started on one bust the back 703 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: but you ride this bus. 704 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right exactly about segregation. Oh yeah, that's crazy. 705 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: How they supposed to get better man, they can't sit 706 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: and talk to none of y'all because we back there 707 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: playing cards, you know, spades, were playing cards. We we know, Yeah, 708 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: we all wanted the back to the back of the bus. 709 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We as a matter of fact, 710 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to go to the back of the bus. 711 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: But hey, all of us, it wasn't nothing, specially because 712 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: all of us was black. We had what a kicker 713 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: with white Yeah. 714 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 715 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't no thinking. I'm sure it's the same thing 716 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: with you guys. Did y'all have a white kicker? White 717 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: kicker and punter, that's it? And a linebacker? We had 718 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: a Yeah, we had a linebacker too. He was a 719 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: bad man. 720 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: But that's what you know. But you you missed that. 721 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: I missed, you know, taking those you know going to Tuskegee, 722 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: uh going to uh we're Burlington, North Carolina, just because 723 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: you you know you you're taking the bus. I mean, 724 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: it ain't no you know, playing it doesn't matter. It 725 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: was like I said, if it was an hour to 726 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and Statesboro or you going to Tuskihee or 727 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: you going to North Carolina, it didn't matter. Spartanburg, South Carolina, 728 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: didn't matter. 729 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: We would take we take that ten hour bus rode 730 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: to Houston, play review Texas Southern. We'd take the ten 731 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: hour bus ride to Alabama and them Alabama State. 732 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 733 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: My first flight in my life was we got paid 734 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: to come play U TIP, so we flew down to UTEP. 735 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: They paid us to beat on us. 736 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, that was my first time. I'm trying to say, 737 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: what if oh first time on the flight. I think 738 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: I went to Black college, all American. I think I 739 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: went to Pittsburgh. I think maybe I flew to see 740 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: my brother play. Uh, but other than now, but now 741 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: you wouldn't taking you wouldn't. But you missed that because 742 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: guess what. We could stop by a convenience store. And 743 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: he's like, man, the guy was like because I was. 744 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: I was. I was a captainist the sow. The man 745 00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: like man, shop man, I'm holding me. 746 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: Have Coach David to stop by the stop by the 747 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: convenience store. I'm like, I'm like coach man, I'm home, Coach, 748 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: can we stopped by a convenience store? Coach didn't looked 749 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: at me, say all right, home, we're gonna stop. But 750 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: you're responsible for. Man, he already knows what. 751 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: They won't clean the store out, y'all y'all had that 752 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: nil money back then. No, we had no n il money. 753 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: That's why he told me I was responsible for him 754 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: to make sure they put issue in their pockets. 755 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: Money. 756 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: That's why he told me. I'm responding and I'm standing 757 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: to the door. 758 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: Hey mm hmmmm hm, take it out man. 759 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: Man, Oh, Joe, how that donna? Look? They ain't stop everybody, Joe, Yeah, 760 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 3: you ain't see everything. But I tell you what. 761 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I wouldn't do because I 762 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: was one of the few guys that had had a vehicle, 763 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: and they and people like man to this day, they're like, man, 764 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 2: Sean wouldn't give nobody ride. Bro, I know who had 765 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: the stuff, would follow them out the store. I I 766 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: know who a bag of potato chip, soda, honey buns. 767 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: It would follow you walk out the store behind you. So, no, 768 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: you're not getting to my car because everybody knew who 769 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: my who I was, and what I drove. Man, I 770 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: just know they got in the car with Shannon. It 771 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: was Shannon Shark. They ain't gonna say nothing else. It 772 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 2: was Shannon Shark. 773 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, even if he had at Honey Bunny or 774 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: slides he Live, swist roll or something. 775 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zebra, he might have three dollars, but he gonna 776 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 2: come out of there with five dollars worth the store. 777 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: So no, they got some you he didn't know. 778 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 2: Oh No, and the mall. Never go into the mall 779 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: with him, absolutely not. Tell you what do you think 780 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: about the locker room decision with two of going through 781 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: his third and fourth major concussions. How do I mean? Look, 782 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: you you can do all you can try to protect 783 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: the guy, but at some point in time, he got 784 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: to protect himself. He has to know when the journey's over. 785 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: You can't. At no situation should he be allowed. I 786 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: don't know what he was thinking, that you're gonna go ahead, 787 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: that you're gonna go head first. Oh somebody knowing his caw, 788 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: you know, he definitely he's he has to be aware, 789 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And he is aware, but 790 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: even more and now it has to be proven on 791 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: a weekly basis that he understands his importance and impact 792 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: to the to the team, to the franchise, to the 793 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: city without too under center. 794 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: It's a different it's a different team. It's a different look. 795 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: But with him under center, I strongly believe Miami Dolphins 796 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: can win any game that he's the starting quarterback. 797 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: So no, you're you're absolutely right, except when he gets 798 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: thirty degrees. 799 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: Here we go, let's get it, let's get into it. 800 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 3: Let's get into man, go ahead with go ahead with you. 801 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: No, he has to know that, he has to know 802 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: how how much of a value PC is and and 803 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: whatever it needs to do. 804 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: But just just. 805 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: Knowing that God, knowing how much you love the game, 806 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: and the way that he prepares. Man, it's that competitiveness 807 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: against Buffalo this year where stagnant offensively, we get a 808 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: drop gone and he's trying to extend on the third 809 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: down to try to get another first down. It's just 810 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: he can't be the one to do it, you know 811 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: what I mean. But he's just been a competitor trying 812 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: to trying to wield a team. 813 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 814 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: I actually I think I talked uncle and I talked 815 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: about this last last year some time. Uh, when he 816 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: when he went out, I just think he has to 817 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: learn to fall a little better and under understanding. But 818 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: when when to especially I remember that first down we 819 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: went head first, he still got he got up. 820 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 3: It was like one of the moments we'd be like, ah, yeah, yeah, 821 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: for sure, hold your breath moment, but just what. 822 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 4: Journeys, knowing when the journey's over, and then when he 823 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: gets hit, knowing how to fall correctly, you know, especially 824 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: when you go when you go back and you don't 825 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: try to do your best. I know it's hard, but 826 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: I was. It's something that I trained myself to do. 827 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 4: Is when you get tackled, you're going backwards, try not 828 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 4: to let your head hit the back of the back 829 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 4: of the back of the ground as hard as it does. 830 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: I mean, what I used to do is if I 831 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 4: get hit hard and I know it's backwards, I'm going backwards, 832 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 4: I would tighten the my core and try to keep 833 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: my head up right the best I can, the best 834 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 4: I can, just so I don't get that boom that 835 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 4: that that that initial shock which causes Yeah, cause the that's. 836 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: The one though, the one that you're falling back hit 837 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: the head, that's the one that's Yeah, that's the. 838 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 4: If I'm getting it my best, like I'm holding the ball, 839 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 4: but I do my best as if I'm as if 840 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm bear hunting dude, you know, in a sense obviously 841 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 4: literally bare hugging. I'm just saying, trying to keep my 842 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: body and my upper body and torso as close to 843 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: him as possible even on impact, just so most of 844 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 4: the force isn't the back of the head bouncing off. 845 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: How do you feel like I got on the sideline 846 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: and they jump out of bound or or are you 847 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: trying to fall forth for the few more yards? 848 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: What you what you think about that? It all depends 849 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: in his situation. He can't do it, not even on 850 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: four because he's too valued. He gets the first down 851 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: and he gets Dean, what have you done? Okay, you 852 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 2: got the first down. Now your backup has to come. 853 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: In and finish out the bar game a whole different time. 854 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: I give you a private example, Peyton Manny. Once Peyton 855 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: Manny hurt that neck, they never let him do quarterbacks. 856 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: And again yeah, if you. 857 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: Notice, they don't let Patrick mahone since he hurt his knee. 858 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: They don't let Patrick Mahones do go straight into the 859 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. You see, you have to protect them. 860 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: That's the fact that's he's gonna have. They're not gonna 861 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: let him do. Obviously, you wouldn't do no touch push 862 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: with Tour. But second of all, bro you got slide. 863 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, slide. I'm not looking at the quarterback. 864 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: Oh he tough for what You're not used to taking 865 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: those licks like that, and they're looking to punish you 866 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: because you don't have the protection of the pocket, because 867 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 2: once you leave that pocket, you're a runner. 868 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hit you like the free game. Uh. 869 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: I mean you go from you have Drew Brees for 870 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: a number of years and then you go from Tour. 871 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: What was it? What was it like? 872 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: What was Breeze like? Brees was a Breeze was a 873 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: killer man. He was an assassin. 874 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 3: He prepared like like a federal agent. He was he 875 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: would be. 876 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: He's prepared man like he's trying to build a case 877 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: on everything that we played. Man, you would you hear 878 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: the cliche first one in, last one to leave. But 879 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: that was genuinely him. That was truly him. I would 880 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: see him on those off days. Man's he preparing like 881 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: none other. And you've seen it every week. And it 882 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: was no matter the outcome of the game too. This 883 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: was the special part of bottom Note, no matter how 884 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: he played individually or if it was a win and lost. 885 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: He put the same amount of time. Man, he gave 886 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: every team the same amount of attention and respect. Playing 887 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: the Falcons twice a year, that second game, even though 888 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: we just beat them about fifteen two weeks ago, He's. 889 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: Going to put those same amount of hours in And 890 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 3: that's why he was He was the greatest. Wow, hey, hey, 891 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: T did you understand before? Did you understand the animosity 892 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: and the hatred that the Saints fans had for the 893 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 3: Falcon fan Did you know that? No? I didn't. Honestly 894 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 3: I didn't. 895 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was such a thing, but I 896 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: quick quickly adopted quickly. 897 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 3: I hate them folks still Listen. 898 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 4: I think I found out maybe two or three years ago. 899 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 4: And here I go, try to have a Kumba y'all moment, 900 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 4: trying to get fans become one of the game, you know, 901 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 4: and like man, f no like about like for real, 902 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm thinking they you know, I think they playing around 903 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: on Twitter. And then people say, like this is really 904 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 4: I really hate them? People like really, no. 905 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: They do not mess with the same Sames fans do 906 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: not mess with Falcon fans, and Falcon fans you best. 907 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 3: Believe then, don't they don't. Is that serious? I had 908 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: no idea. 909 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't need it, but I said, I 910 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: quickly adopted it. I still hate them to this day. 911 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: Like I'm not rocking with the Falcons ever. 912 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: Uh. Laces on Leather ranked the NFL atmosphere from best 913 00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: to worse. What do you think the best atmosphere? NFL atmospherees? 914 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: What do you think the best one is? 915 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: Hey, uncle, you gotta be between Kansas City and Seattle, 916 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 3: and the city is number one. Okay. I go through 917 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 3: the top ten. 918 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 2: Cow the Chiefs are one, Packers are two, see Hawks 919 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 2: are three, Vikings are four, Ravens are five, Bills are six, 920 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: Lions are seven, Saints are eight, Patriots are nine. Cowboys 921 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: are ten. I don't know how Cowboys made it cause 922 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 2: they ain't got no home feeling about it. They lose 923 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: all the time. 924 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. The stadium nice, though. I think 925 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: it's just raising the stadium. Ranking the stadium for the Cowboys. 926 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's got the environment. I was shocked 927 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: they lost. They lost like six games last year and 928 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: don Cowboys don't got that. Don't really have a unless 929 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: there unless that winning. They their fans to show up. 930 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 1: But there's so many people in that stadium. 931 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 3: You will hear it. I'm shocked to hear that that 932 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 3: that New Orleans was was so low on that list. 933 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: That Super Dome is crazy. It's super crazy. 934 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but y'all, y'all, y'all been y'all been, y'all been struggling, 935 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 2: y'all been on hard. 936 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: So this is this is what last year's like. Best atmosphere. No, 937 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: but I'm just fair. Look, yeah, I give y'all credit. Now, y'all, 938 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: y'all be making some noise because I remember Katrina when 939 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: y'all with y'all y'all played in San Antonio. I think 940 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: he was in San Antonio when they came back and 941 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: glease and blocked that point on that Monday night game 942 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: against the I. 943 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 3: Mean you could literally hear it through the television. 944 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean it was if I don't know, and Sean 945 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: Payton all the people say they've never heard it that 946 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: loud before or since that night. 947 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that I that was definitely a strucial moment. 948 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: But during my tenure in New Orleans, we were always 949 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: it was us Seattle. Yeah, y'all did as far as 950 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: like the loudest crowd noise. The Saints was always near. 951 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 2: The top, and I'm not surprised that. A look, I mean, 952 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: look at this, A lot of these Seahawk vikings A Dome, 953 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 2: Lions Dome, Saints Dome, Cowboys Dome. It's something about when 954 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: you can get a you can get an outdoor arena 955 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 2: and you get that kind of like the Chiefs have, 956 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 2: or like when I played the broncos Man. 957 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 3: Oh my, how that thing be rocking. 958 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: They that's seventy six thousand, I'm talking about. They be 959 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: going crazy. Pole chargers right down here at the bottom. 960 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah charges hand Listen. I've been in 961 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 4: some great atmospheres. I played at every stadium that's on here, 962 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 4: and I honestly no one Number two should be the Bengals. Honestly, 963 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 4: cut it out. Listen to me, to stay with me. Now, 964 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 4: never been in the jungle, boy, You've never been in 965 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 4: jungle on a primetime game in Cincinnati. You see what 966 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 4: you gotta see what you have? You say, I preface 967 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 4: the team a prime time around the playoffs. It ain't 968 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 4: gotta be no prime time game. It can be any game. 969 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: It can be appreciding game, it can be a note 970 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: of what you're scrimmaging against yourself. It's gonna be ruckous. 971 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 2: That is what y'all do to do. 972 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 3: That's what we've been. That has changed tremendously. You hit me, 973 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 3: I have been there was. Yeah, it does. 974 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: I give you, I give you credit, Joe, it is 975 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: it has from my earlier years to now. I feel 976 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: like now is a lot better atmosphere. They were they 977 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: all white. Yeah, it is rocking that Joe Burrow, the 978 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: Icy White. It's not in the top ten. Not in 979 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: the top ten though. 980 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: No, guess what, No, it's not. When they win the 981 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 3: Ice and White. 982 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 2: All you're gonna do is see them see see them 983 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 2: scared marks because they're gonna poop the bed. 984 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: They already they gonna dough it, poop the bed. I 985 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 3: mean going on at nothing. Bimore Raven coming out. I 986 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: know what that is. I know what that. 987 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: That's that hatred y'all was asking me about when the 988 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: five in the Saint Well, don't know your hatred? 989 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 3: Steelers? 990 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers, No, we and us for the in 991 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: the Denver it would be it was the Raiders. Then 992 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: the cheap I got was that, but the raid it 993 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: was it was the steep. 994 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 3: During my time, it was the Ravens, Ravens and Steelers. 995 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 3: It was bad. 996 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: It was y'all be with Cleveland because y'all try to 997 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: fix who own Ohio and he's ain't nobody worried about y'all. 998 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: During my time, we used to beat up on the 999 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: Ravens and the Steelers. Yeah, well maybe you did. I was. 1000 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: I was. 1001 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: Saw on him that showed on that thing on you black. Yeah, 1002 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: he put you down, but you got the trip Cardinals 1003 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: bear the Chargers. 1004 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 3: So what what you're thinking on Joe? What what they 1005 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: get right? What they get wrong? I mean, know this 1006 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 3: is about right though I'm not sure who made this list, 1007 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 3: but it's about right. You know. 1008 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 4: The funny thing about it is the fact that some 1009 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: of the dome teams are a little low. That's a 1010 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 4: testament to the fans in Seattle, in Green Bay, in 1011 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 4: Kansas City. And funny thing the first thing I said before, 1012 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 4: as soon as you mentioned we've been doing the rank 1013 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 4: in the best stadiums, I said, I said Kansas City 1014 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 4: and Seattle right away, So goddamn loud. 1015 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 3: T Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't know if it's 1016 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 3: the way the stadium is built. I don't know what 1017 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 3: it is. It's like dog, you be on the field 1018 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 3: and can't hear nothing. Yeah, no, for sure the Seattle game. 1019 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 3: We played them our rookie year in the playoffs and 1020 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: oh that was to be. That wasn't that? Man, No, okay, 1021 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: that wasn't. 1022 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of that. I would have tripped him. 1023 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: But in the second round of the playoffs and Champagne, 1024 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 1: so we went up there. We kind of like battle 1025 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: for the number one seed. Middle of the season. We 1026 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: played on Monday night, It's twenty eighth to nothing, and 1027 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: immediately first quarter they smacked us. So when we go 1028 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: back in the playoffs, Sean Payton had us all these 1029 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: custom ear pieces made dead silence. So all week we 1030 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: were these ear pieces and we nonverbally communicated every play, 1031 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: every snapcount, and we got up there and we we 1032 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: we did it. It worked like a charm as far 1033 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: as that we still lost. Of course, they went on 1034 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: and won the Super Bowl, but it was it was 1035 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: that to your to your point, it was really it 1036 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: was so loud that it like hurt. So we had 1037 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: these custom earpieces. 1038 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like after the day with Kansas City, we did 1039 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 2: that with Kansas City. But uh, the old Kingdome. Before 1040 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 2: they built this stadium, they used to have. They used 1041 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: to have a dome and see how to call the 1042 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 2: King Dome. 1043 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 3: No, that didn't know that. They now it only hold 1044 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 3: about sixty. But boy, that's because it always it's always 1045 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: ran in this Seattle. 1046 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Those people walking around sad all week and they go 1047 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: in the stadium and screen. 1048 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 3: That's all it is. It's all the. 1049 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: The old the astronom was like that steal. Oh, the 1050 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: House of Pay. They used to call it the House 1051 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: of Pay. They did well. They had warm moon, they 1052 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 2: ran to run and shoot and their defense made. Boy, 1053 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 2: but the bills, the Bills is like the Bill Stadium. 1054 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: That's what they got it. They got a nice fo 1055 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: I don't know what they call it now. I don't 1056 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: know what they call it in Mark or whatever. They 1057 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: call it high Mark or something. But it used to 1058 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 2: be called uh Rich Stadium. Yo, Yo, them just gonna 1059 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: be talking about let's go. Buffalo said, that's. 1060 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 3: That's That was one of my favorite plays to play 1061 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: throughout my career. The energy is did Joe start jumping 1062 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 3: around to you better tell you that it's hard? It's hard. 1063 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 3: They got a nice atmosphere up thee Hey, Buffalo got 1064 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 3: some crazy fans. Boy, they sucked. They go jumping out, 1065 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 3: jumping on Bernie table. 1066 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, they got real football up there, real 1067 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: football atmosphere. 1068 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 4: You know what's funny t T when you think about it. Listen, 1069 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 4: Buffalo Buffalo fans deserve their flowers anytime it comes to donating. 1070 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 3: You know when other players they talk, what Buffalo fans 1071 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 3: come through like no other. No, that's the Fu's that's 1072 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 3: they always show love. 1073 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: Man. 1074 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they used the tragedy. They always lose, so they 1075 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 3: know how to handle losing. Well you know what I mean, 1076 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 3: Like they know how to get close, get to the 1077 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 3: door and get both shut on them. So they used 1078 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 3: to lose and they know how to handle it. Well. Yes, Oh. 1079 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 2: So you good Chiefs one, Packers, Seahawks, Vikings, Ravens, Bills, Lions, Saints, Patriots, Costleys, Sat. 1080 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: So you think Saints should be in the top five? 1081 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 3: Real real Saints amish the top top three environment? Oh 1082 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 3: whoa hold on? 1083 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 4: If the Saint's top three environment, then the Cincinnati was 1084 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 4: damn show got to be in top. 1085 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 3: Argument. 1086 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, different than I hadn't played at this new stadium, 1087 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: but the old Metro Dome. You played no metro doome right? 1088 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 3: Crazy? 1089 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh standing? I played up there, man. When they had 1090 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 2: they had Johnny Randall, they had Chris Doman, rest his soul. 1091 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: They had Keith Keith Millard, they had Alga and they 1092 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: had Henry Thomas. Hey boy, they had a defense out 1093 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: of this world, boy, boy, boy boy. If Floyd the 1094 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: defense court down, I think it was Floyd Peters, Floyd Reeches, 1095 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: Floyd What was Floyd's last name? I think it's Reese. 1096 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 2: Boy you're talking about. Come man, don't let them sack. 1097 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: Don't you let them take that quarterback? 1098 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: They was doing that star blow that hard. 1099 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Jord, because right now he just logged 1100 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 2: on for the fact he wanted on the first athlete, 1101 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 2: the original music man fan guy. 1102 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 3: He's been trused. We've been trying to get him on 1103 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 3: for a minute. We linked up a couple of weeks ago. 1104 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 2: He said, Man, let me come on night cap and 1105 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: here you is, ladies and gentlemen, your favorite rappers, favorite 1106 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: rapper symbol. 1107 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 3: Un what's up? Oh then what they do? 1108 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: Man? 1109 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 7: We live in life. We blessed you alive. Man, I'm 1110 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 7: loving the man, happy to be here with you. Are 1111 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 7: your Nor'm a big fan of the show. Shout out 1112 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 7: to my good my guy up there, man, big dog. 1113 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 7: I'm not a Dolphins fan, but I'm a Dolphins supporter. 1114 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 7: I'm a Dolphins supporter. I got fan out of Miami 1115 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 7: with shout out to you, man, shout out to the 1116 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 7: whole crew. 1117 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, shout out to make sure you're from your 1118 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 3: faith living in La. Now, So were you a Raiders fan? 1119 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 3: You're a forty nine Ers fan. 1120 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 6: I'm a Raider. You see that the to us, they 1121 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 6: liked the they like the prima Donnas of the Bay. 1122 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 3: You know, they liked that. 1123 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 7: They liked the pretty girl at school. Everybody want the 1124 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 7: Raiders was gotten there, Gritton. Growing up, my mom was 1125 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 7: in real estate, so one of her first real estate 1126 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 7: deals was Lance Johnstone when he came to the Raiders. 1127 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 3: Okayah. 1128 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 7: He used to give us tickets to the game and 1129 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 7: my mom would always take me to the game. And 1130 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 7: then one of my close friends, Taiwan Jones, he was 1131 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 7: drafted to the Raiders from our high school, Deer Valley. 1132 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 7: So always been a big Raider fan, Marshawn Lynch, Charles Woodson, 1133 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 7: you'd always been a big Raider fan. 1134 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 3: Man, all right, we'll get you out here. CJ. 1135 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson goes off on DC big FANGI on ig. 1136 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 2: I was a tenth dummy for them, So now they 1137 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 2: can be like my scheme work or did my skills? 1138 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: Fan make it work? I had zero issues. People had 1139 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 2: issues with me, So yeah, let the satary cap be 1140 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: the excuse. 1141 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 3: Uh, fan Joe. He said that C. J. 1142 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson trade was a salary cap issue, a salary 1143 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: cap thing, and I'm fine with it. 1144 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 3: Just don't let the young guys know like y'all did. Hey, 1145 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 3: Uh what what hold on? Man? 1146 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: Basically, he said the situation was a big fat Joe 1147 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator. He said the they traded him because 1148 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 2: it was a salary cap issue. Now, they didn't save 1149 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, maybe a couple of hundred 1150 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But moving forward, because you got who you 1151 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 2: got coming up, o Jo. You got that big dog 1152 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: up front. J Carter, he gonna it's gonna take some break, 1153 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 2: big bread. And then you got you're gonna have brother. 1154 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna have brother Mitchell, he gonna be coming up. 1155 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna have Cooper de Jon he gonna be coming up. 1156 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 3: Right, so they clean the house. 1157 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: So you know, but it happened, Bro, You got a rig, 1158 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 2: you got an opportunity to come back, you got a ring, 1159 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: and somebody wanted you. When somebody trade for you, to y'all, 1160 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 2: let me know what you think about this team. When 1161 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 2: somebody trade for you, they're telling you they want you. Okay, 1162 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: though the team didn't want me, but this new team 1163 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 2: traded for me. They gave up something to give me, 1164 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 2: So clearly they see the value in me, even if 1165 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 2: the whole team doesn't. 1166 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 3: C J. 1167 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: C J he real passionate, man. He's he's very vocal. 1168 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: That's that's his that's his his biggest attribute. 1169 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 3: His passion. 1170 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: The way that he play the game is like that's 1171 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: how he is off the field too, though he's very 1172 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: he's very vocal, very passionate. 1173 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 3: So if it's the way that he's feeling, you really 1174 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: can't convince some otherwise. 1175 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: So, like, even though that the Houston Texans did want him, 1176 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: they wanted them, they traded for him, they gave away 1177 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: compensation for him to be a part of their team. 1178 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 3: CJ is still gonna let let Philly know how you feel. 1179 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 3: That's just that's just how he is. That's how you are. Yeah, uncle, 1180 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: you know I talked. I talked to CJ all the time. Man, 1181 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: CG and I are really close. 1182 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 4: Like like T said, he's very passionate about especially about 1183 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 4: the way the game, the game of ball in general, 1184 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 4: the way it is and some of the things that 1185 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 4: that that he knows what's going on. I think he 1186 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 4: allows that passion and love for the game. He gets 1187 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 4: that it's business at the end. 1188 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: Of the day, always has been, always will be. And 1189 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 2: it's tough though. It's tough when you devote so much, 1190 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 2: you know, like you said, think about it. You getting 1191 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: out there and you can't walk until Wednesday, and you 1192 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 2: out there hobbling, and you doing everything you can to 1193 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: give them everything you can and then they do something 1194 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 2: like this. 1195 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely get it. 1196 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 7: I'm trying one dad sore, three of you guys, Like, 1197 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 7: what's it? What is it like kind of being married 1198 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 7: to a situation. You may have bought a home in 1199 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 7: this city or whatever it may be. You raised the 1200 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 7: family here and because it's time to blow it up 1201 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 7: and we want to get younger players, and what's that 1202 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 7: like that transition like having to know you gotta leave. 1203 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 4: Right, you understand it, You understand it, see him like 1204 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 4: I already knew. At some point, I knew my time 1205 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 4: was coming. I didn't know when that day would be. 1206 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 4: Obviously I was able to squeeze out ten years normally 1207 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 4: ten years to your cut off point, no matter how 1208 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 4: good you are. If you go down the list of 1209 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 4: some of the great receivers, that have been very few 1210 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 4: that stayed on one team for a very long time. 1211 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 4: The two that I could think of, maybe the longest, 1212 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 4: might have been Jerry Rices and Larry Gerald. You know, 1213 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 4: Jerry at some point left, but Larry, for Jeral's one 1214 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 4: of the few I could think of that stayed and 1215 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 4: won an. 1216 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: Organization for a very long time. I knew my time 1217 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: was coming. 1218 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 4: So while I was there, wherever I was at, whatever cars, 1219 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 4: I was there well often to play in my hand. 1220 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 3: See, I had fun. 1221 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 4: So when that time did come, you know, I was 1222 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 4: at peace with it because I understood the business side 1223 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 4: of it, which is why I chose to have fun 1224 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 4: instead that I understood the politics and businesside that came 1225 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 4: with it. 1226 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 2: You know it's going to happen, but it doesn't make 1227 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 2: it any eiier, Right, what you or what you give 1228 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: to that organization, all those painkilling injections that I took, 1229 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 2: all that, all all that, those those toor doll shots 1230 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: that I took just to be able to go play, 1231 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: and now I have one down year, Like, oh yeah. 1232 00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 3: It was good. 1233 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 2: Seven consecutive Pro Bowls, first Team All Pro through a 1234 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: five yard all that. It's tough side to you, Hey, T, 1235 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you don't like, yeah that is 1236 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Damn, I thought I was gonna be 1237 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 2: one of them John Elway, and I'm gonna get me 1238 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: twelve thirteen T with one. 1239 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's real. It's real, cymvil for for real. 1240 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: Just and just to add to what what o Cho 1241 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: and Uncle's saying, especially, it's it's today's media and Adam 1242 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: Schefter and Ian Rappaport them guys get the news before 1243 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: you do, you know what I mean. So that's that's 1244 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: the part that I've seen be really impactful negatively to 1245 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: some players. I had one of my teammates here in 1246 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: the Saints. He was a running back and we bro 1247 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: we chilling and training camp, playing the game, and he 1248 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: just scrolling on Twitter. Bro, he just got released by 1249 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: the Saints. He had no idea, like, no idea, and 1250 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: it was real. 1251 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 3: He got released. 1252 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: They kept one of the rookie running backs that they had, 1253 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: they had drafted so on. He had no idea, you 1254 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the part that hurt mine. 1255 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: The fact that the matter is is what Ocho and 1256 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: I we go around sometimes I'm like, bro, when Adam 1257 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 2: Schefter and. 1258 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 3: These guys be talking, where do you think they're getting 1259 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 3: that from? 1260 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: They getting that from the teams, They're getting that from 1261 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 2: the general managers, They're getting that from owners, They're getting 1262 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 2: that from player personnel director. They're getting that from NFL sources. 1263 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh yes, they dude, I mean Adam Schefter making you know, 1264 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 2: lots of money. These were these are insiders. They making 1265 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 2: a lot of money, and they built up great relationships 1266 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 2: because and this is why they say anonymous. This is 1267 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: why they say sources, because the moment they give up 1268 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 2: one source, they're done. I hope you've made a lot 1269 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 2: of money because if you give up one source, nobody 1270 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 2: will ever go on record with you again. Nobody will 1271 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: ever tell you ish. That's why Adam Schefter got all 1272 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 2: those phones, That's why he taking calls. 1273 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 3: He's live on air taking calls the may no dummy calls, trust. 1274 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 7: Me, that's crazy. That's why I got so much love 1275 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 7: for the King. You know we see out the eye 1276 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 7: when it come to King j James. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1277 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 7: I got so much love for the King because these 1278 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 7: organizations got the ability to move you where they want 1279 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 7: you to be, but you never kind of got the 1280 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 7: opportunity to pick where you want to go. 1281 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you one question I'm gonna 1282 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: get out of you guys. Way uh going going through 1283 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: your discography? Man, what what's it like to have a 1284 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: song with the legendary DMX made it? 1285 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 6: Honestly, bro, Like, I can't, I can't. 1286 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 7: I can't tell you because the way that happened, I 1287 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 7: really wasn't involved on the process of that. That was 1288 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 7: Joinner Lucas's team and him and X had a relationship 1289 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 7: and right before X had passed, I believe that might 1290 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 7: have been the last verse. Joiner told me that he 1291 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 7: might have laid before he passed, had a great relationship 1292 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 7: and they had laid a song and one day Joiner 1293 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 7: hit me, he was like, yo, I got this joint 1294 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 7: me and X, did I. 1295 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 6: Want you to get on it? And of course, I 1296 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 6: was honored to be a part of it is X. 1297 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 7: I grew up trying to be like X, from rapping 1298 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 7: like him to trying to act like them in Exit Wounds, 1299 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 7: you know. 1300 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 6: So it was just a blessing to be a part 1301 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 6: of it, honestly. 1302 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, but Tie, I know you got to get 1303 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 3: out of here. Man, I appreciate that. 1304 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time looking out and when you get 1305 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,479 Speaker 2: some more time, hey, stop back by with us again. 1306 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Man, We love to have it. We appreciate you guys. 1307 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: Hold on what you got, uh hey, tell us about 1308 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 3: the YouTube channel you getting. 1309 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just really man, being a big fan of 1310 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: you guys, showing everything you guys doing. I'm looking to 1311 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 1: get into my own I want to talk O line. 1312 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk on line D line, get some 1313 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: details of the trenches. How Kobe and Peyton Manning had 1314 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the detailed show and they really broke down what. 1315 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 3: They're seeing and how they analyze the game. 1316 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to be one of those people and kind 1317 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: of really take over that that avenue for O line, 1318 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: D line to words easily digestible, so I can I 1319 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: can be an educator in that space. So you know 1320 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: what technique is used. You know who that sack is 1321 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: on and how it happened, you know what I mean. 1322 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a part of my YouTube show, So 1323 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Toronto Upstairs show coming. 1324 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 3: So man, I appreciate you guys. 1325 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: You already got a partner, We got some we got 1326 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: something in the workpiate line. 1327 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah you got you got you know, Big Willy Andson. 1328 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah sure believe me. 1329 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 4: I mean we believe we'd be real good in that space, 1330 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 4: especially from an informative standpoint, playing a playing the old 1331 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 4: line position. 1332 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,919 Speaker 3: Man, he's really gonna be there for sure. 1333 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what TV We really appreciate Daddy YouTube 1334 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 2: show launched on June seventeen. He's gonna break down. It's 1335 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 2: gonna be the final points of old line and d 1336 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 2: line play What actually happened? The set, quick set, jump set, 1337 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 2: He watched the staff, he dropped down, he played for 1338 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 2: the bull, he been all of that stuff. So all 1339 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 2: the good stuff, that the interesting stuff that a lot 1340 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 2: of people don't talk about. You'll be able to get 1341 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 2: that on tear uh Toront's YouTube channel, so Chick it 1342 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Out is launching June seventeenth. T appreciate your chime, man, 1343 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 2: and when you get an opportunity to stop back by with. 1344 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 6: A shout out to tea appreciated something. 1345 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 3: Yep, the volume