1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: now two time gold medal winning half pipe, stovepipe, pipe, 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: drain pipe, windpipe, backpipe, and pipe dope. J P. Shadrick, 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: that's a long list. Welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon. My name's j. P. Shadrick. We 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: have a busy hour ahead. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockhaman returns 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: to the show. That's the top line, of course. Coaching 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: staff announcement earlier today will break down some of the 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: names who have joined the staff, twenty two coaches. I 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: feel like that's cutting a half from last year. Butselly's 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame reaction will get some of the thoughts 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: from the big fella from last week that that story 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: is not going away, you do. That'll go all the 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: way through August. Of course, that we'll go around the 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: National Football League and our thoughts on Super Bowl fifty six, 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: some of the news that has come out around the 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: league since then. Jeff Logaman joining us now here in studio. 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I we're sweating to the oldiest today in here. It's 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: a little warm here in the office, but good to 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: see it. Oh Man yeah, what what happened to the 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: h V A C unit. And I'm not talking about 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the uh, the age part. It's it's a work in progress. 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: That's okay. It's one of those. But hey, it's gonna see. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: You were gone last week, you're back at it. It's 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: good to be seen, to be honest with that. That 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: means that we're all above ground. So that's positive. And 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: a lot has happened since the last time that we spoke, 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: and uh, and I can tell you that last Thursday, 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I celebrated, I think with a lot like a lot 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: of people did in Jacksonville with with the announcement that 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli was inducted in the Hall of Fame. It's 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: a long time coming. We've been talking about it for 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: years and years. And we'll get into this a little 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: more in depth coming up in a little while. But 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: just to see the reaction on his face, the Famili's face, 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: that's that's what made it special for me at least. Well, 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: and I think I take it to another level because 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: I saw and read some of Leon Searc's comments and 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: that we all kind of go in with him, and 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and really we do in some respects because you know 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Tony was our teammate, and and we've always been a 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: big fan of Tony's. We have always thought very highly 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: of him as a player. And I've said this before, 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: there's only a couple of players that in my career 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: that I actually would go to the sideline and then 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: return to watch somebody on the offensive side of the ball, 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: and Tony was that guy. I did it early in 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: my career a little bit with Freeman McNeil, because Freeman 49 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: McNeil was such a gifted runner, and I used to 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: love how he could be running parallel to the line 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then plant his foot and then at 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: a hundred miles and our same speed he was running parallel, 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: He's running north and south, and I thought that was 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: a special gift. Aut Tune who was on his way 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: to having a Hall of Fame type of career until 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: the concussion issue that he sustained cut his career short. 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I was on the same field watching Ronnie Lott, and 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: I used to sit there in Marvel and watch the 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: film of Ronnie Lott because I would be watching myself, 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: but then I would want to watch Ronnie Lott. Art Monk, 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: who I had the opportunity to play with for one 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: year in New York who came to us. I used 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to love watching how Art Monk conducted himself and how 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: he practiced. He was the epitome of excellence. With Tony. 65 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: I've got so many different stories from when he came 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: in as a young pup to the first game that 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: he ever played. I'll never forget it because he was 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: as a rookie had the knee issue because I heard 69 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: him remember this story, Yes, you um pretty decided to 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: pretty simple story. We're in Steven's Point, Wisconsin and we're 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: doing one on one pass rush drills and it's a 72 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: little wet out and I do a bull rush on Tony. 73 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: He hurts the knee, and you know, the franchise is 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: headed in the downward spiral because Tony heard a knee. 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: They put him on Wayne Weaver's jet and find out 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: that he's got to have a fix. They fixed the knee. 77 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: His first game back ever as a rookie was against 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers right here at home, and it 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: was against the defensive end that was Shawn Jones. Sean 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: Jones was one of the best defensive ends in all 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: of football. All of football and so when I came 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: to the sideline and Tony was out on the field 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: against Sean Jones, I couldn't wait to watch him play, 84 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: and he kicked the snot out of Seawan Jones. It 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: was no different than the playoff game in ninety six 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: going to Buffalo. You couldn't wait to watch the matchup 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: against Bruce Smith and to watch Tony kick the snot 88 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: out of Bruce Smith. Watching Tony battle Mike McCrary every 89 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: year a couple of times, I mean, these were these 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: were monumental matchups that you just as a as a 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: teammate of his, you couldn't wait to watch. And that's 92 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: very rare. I mean, here, here's the thing, JP. Not 93 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: many defensive linemen are gonna break out the popcorn. Okay, okay, 94 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: arall owens break out the popcorn and watching offensive lineman. 95 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: There's only been a couple of guys in in my 96 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: career that ever did that. With Tony BASSELLI was one 97 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: of them. Larry Allen was another one because he was 98 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: so dominant, and uh, I can't remember another that I 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: literally would would pay the price of admission to watch. 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: The one I like is. And we'll get into the 101 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: base stuff. Now we'll get to the coaching staff announced. 102 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: That's coming up a little bit later here on Jaguar's 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: Happy Hour now. But the one I liked was I 104 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: think Thomas had five or six sacks one week. The 105 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: next week, the Jaguars are playing the Kansas City Chiefs, 106 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: and I think they asked Tom confind, hey, are you 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna help us out? No, he's he's he's gonna line 108 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: up one on one on the outside. Okay, no big deal, 109 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: and shut about. I mean, didn't have a sack in 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: that next game. And speed guy a little different. Tony 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: is a massive human being, but from six, five or 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: six sacks one week to zero and he was one 113 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: of He's in the Hall of Fame too, Tony had 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Tony was an incredibly smart offensive lineman, and that he 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: knew what the strength was. I mean, much like people 116 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: talk about Bill Belichick taking away the strength of an offense. 117 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman, you're facing pass rushers that have strengths. 118 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas get off outside speed rush. That was his strength, 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: and so for Tony, Tony was inviting him to essentially 120 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: to try to run him over. Because Tony wasn't fearful 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: of Derrick Thomas's power. Well, you had to be scared 122 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: of was his speed. And when you faced Reggie White, 123 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Reggie White power, Reggie White move. I mean so, but 124 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Tony was always very aware of what a defensive lineman's 125 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: strength was and what their weakness was, and and so 126 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: he adapted I think in a lot of ways his 127 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: game against players based on what that was. And and 128 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, you hear Tony talk all the time about J. J. Watt. 129 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Many people look at J. J. Watt and his hey 130 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: day now as being this powerful, strong guy, and Tony 131 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: always say, that's not j J. Watt. J J. Watts. 132 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: You need to fear his shake because he doesn't use 133 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: his power a whole lot. Well, all most offensive lineman 134 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: got into trouble with J J because they thought he 135 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: was a power guy. But that's what made Tony smart. 136 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, when I would try to go against Tony 137 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: and practice one of my better moves, I didn't have 138 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: any great moves. One of my better moves was to 139 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: knock the hands down. I called it the karate kid 140 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: wax on him, wax off kind of thing, and it 141 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: used to drive me crazy because Tony would pass set 142 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: and then either pull his hands away at that time, 143 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: or he would hide him and not give them to 144 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: you and then shoot him at the last second because 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: he knew that was the move that I had. And 146 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: so I mean as a pass rusher, that was frustrating 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: because he was aware of what your strength was and 148 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: he could adapt his pass set, his pass protection to 149 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: to accommodate any pass rusher to benefit him. And uh 150 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: and on top of that, he had a nastiness that 151 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of offensive lineman today do 152 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: not have. And he liked to finish guys, and I 153 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: when I say finished guys, he would finish guys. He 154 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to watch and and I'm 155 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm proud for him, proud of him, happy for him 156 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: and his family. It's well deserved and and it's pretty cool. 157 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Seventy one is gonna be in the hall. Here's the thing. 158 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: They better get some more clay to make that book. 159 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: We talked about that you've got a big hit. They 160 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: might have to expand a big head physically, like like 161 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: literally if you measured it, he's got like one of 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: the piggers. I think they had to order a special 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: helmet for him. Like, how about that breaking news. Just 164 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: because he's in the Hall doesn't mean we're gonna stop. 165 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: It's only just because busting a shop, That's right. Let's 166 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: hear from Tony. We caught up with him the day 167 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: after the announcement NFL honors this past Thursday, the announcement 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: came down that he was elected to the Pro Football 169 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He sat down with us on Friday 170 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: morning and what did it mean to have the family 171 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: so much involved? Yeah? It was to me that's the 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: fun part, chapions of moments, um, because I mean, being 173 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame is huge, don't be wrong. I 174 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: mean it's just it's it's amazing, um. But the special 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: things for me were the moments I got to share 176 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: with people I love and with my wife and my 177 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: kids and my close friends. That's what matter life and uh, 178 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: and there's been so many already and that's what I 179 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: really enjoyed about the process. So the one person that 180 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: was not around obviously for this, with his father who 181 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: passed away last year, missed it by a year. But 182 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: from what we saw in the reports after the private 183 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: dinner after the fact Thursday night, they actually recorded a 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: message from his dad before he passed away, like two 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: weeks before he died, and that was part of the 186 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: presentation Thursday this past Thursday night out in l A 187 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: And really good tribute there, but that's the one person 188 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: that was missing. But just just seeing the glow on 189 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: the faces of the kids, they're they're really hyped up 190 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: and excited, you know about all this happening finally for 191 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: their dad. Well, and it's it's it's incredible and it's 192 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a kind of a whirlwind I think for 193 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Tony from from the point last week until until the 194 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: induction app actually happens, and uh and and I just 195 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a cool situation, not just 196 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: for him and his family, but it's a I think 197 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: it's a great moment for the franchise, for the franchise 198 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to finally have a guy in the Hall of Fame. 199 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: I think it's incredibly huge. I think it's bigger than 200 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people might realize right now because you 201 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: finally have somebody in there. And yes, it could start 202 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and open the door for some others in the years 203 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: to come, but to finally have somebody in that room 204 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: of just under four hundred of the greatest football players 205 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: of all time. That is a cornerstone, milestone achievement for 206 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the franchise well. And also I think it's great because 207 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: it is Tony and in a lot of respects, I 208 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: don't think there can be a better ambassador for Jacksonville 209 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: the franchise, but then also Jacksonville the city. I mean, 210 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Tony came back to the city after being gone for 211 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: quite some time, and and he loves this place. He 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: loves his franchise, he loves the city. He wants to 213 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: live here, and he's raised his family here and that's 214 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: I think it's very important. And hopefully he paves the 215 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: way for two other guys that are worthy, which is 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and Jimmy Smith. And I think those two guys, 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: if you looked at them just from a performance standpoint, 218 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: simply one of the best two players in the era. 219 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: And they're very, very deserving as well. Have you been 220 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: to Canton since the Hall of Fame game? No? No, 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: I have not. I was. I went there twice. Was 222 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the last year, which was the year in which the 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars and then the Panthers played both expansion franchises. Was 224 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: the expansion year, and then in a previous year when 225 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: I was with the Jets, we were there because that 226 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: was the year that John Riggins was inducted into the 227 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, which John got his start in professional 228 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: football with the New York Jets, I believe, and obviously 229 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: made his fame with about the Raal Washington Redskins. But 230 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I hope that for from 231 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: our standpoint, that the Jaguars are playing in the Hall 232 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: of Fame game. And I don't know if this is 233 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna happen for most organization if they don't want anything 234 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to do with the Hall of Fame, because it's essentially 235 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: it's an extra preseason game that most coaches and players 236 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: don't want to have on their docket when they're getting 237 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: ready for the regular season, especially now nowadays when the 238 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: emphasis has certainly been taken away from the preseason. But 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool, not just because 240 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Tony is going in, but also, uh, Jacksonville native is 241 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: going in and uh yeah, and fantastic, and so I 242 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: think it would be cool in that aspect. Now we'll 243 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: have to wait and see if that does happen, but 244 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: but I hope. I hope so, because you know what, 245 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: then it ensures that we're gonna be there. True, that 246 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: would be really cool, And well, I guess well we 247 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: can ask Doug Peterson this tomorrow. You know, if that 248 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: were the case, get two extra weeks of training camp. 249 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: You don't think the new coaching staff wants two extra 250 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: weeks around these guys. Well, it wouldn't be two extra weeks, 251 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: it would be one extra week either way. Right. So 252 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: they lost two O T A s because of the 253 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: rules broken in this past offseason, right, so, which gives 254 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: not Doug Peterson's fault, That's right, but that's the hand 255 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: their doubt. So why not get some more time? That 256 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: would be I think really cool. It's gonna be a 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: cool week anyway in Canton. But if you have the 258 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: game on Thursday and then the triment ceremony on Saturday, 259 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: that's a full week and that would be fun. Yeah. 260 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: I hope, So I hope we get to be there, 261 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and I will. I will be there if I can 262 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: be there, regardless of whether the Jaguars are there, and 263 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: that's yeah, I think that speaks for all of us. 264 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment, coaching staff and ounce 265 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: today logs. We've got a lot of names to go through, 266 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys to meet. I like this staff. 267 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a big fan of the Doug 268 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Peterson hiring. I wish it had happened sooner, but I 269 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: really like that he is the head coach of the 270 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. That's exactly what this franchise needed at this 271 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: point in history. And uh, and I look forward to 272 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: to talking with him tomorrow. All Right, Daily's Place schedules 273 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: starting to really ramp up now after around March, we'll 274 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: get things going with a w dynamite March second and 275 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: then April. Here we go Brothers, Osborne, Little Dirk. On 276 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: the nineteenth of April, Tim McGraw May five, Erica Vedoo 277 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Goodie mob at that show as well. May six. Tickets 278 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: at Daily's Place dot com. We've got two dates with 279 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: the full day Matthews Band coming up later, two dates 280 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: of Keith Urban. I mean there's some big time shows 281 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: coming up at Matthews Band is good, big time. That's 282 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: a that's an arena almost stadium show at times. It's 283 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a Dailies place. So get your tickets now. Uh. 284 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Some of those shows not on sale yet. They'll go 285 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: on sale very soon back in a moment, coaching staff talk. 286 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: When we return, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 287 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hour continues Thursday afternoon. J P. 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lockman. Glad you're along with us. Joe 289 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Fortunato on the audio print Reaber on the video. We 290 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: just went through the Tony Baselly Hall of Fame discussion. 291 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: That will go on and on and on rightly. So 292 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming, but today the Jaguars 293 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: and head coach Doug Peterson announced the coaching staff for 294 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Let's start on the offensive staff, and 295 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: it starts with offensive coordinator Press Taylor. He was with 296 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson up in Philadelphia in some lower level coaching 297 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: roles there, but now he's the offensive coordinator. Jim Bob 298 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Cooter is the passing game coordinator. Mike McCoy, the former 299 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Chargers head coach, is the quarterbacks coach. Phil Rossher is 300 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, Wide receiver coach Chris Jackson, tight 301 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: end coach Richard and Gulo. Running back coaches. Bernie Parmly 302 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: returns from last season. Andrew Bryner is the assistant quarterbacks coach. 303 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Will Herriger is the offensive assistant assistant on line coach, 304 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Todd Washington Returns and Nick Williams the offensive quality control coach. So, 305 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: and just to lead that list up just for a second, 306 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: because a couple of comments here. Press Taylor is the 307 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: brother of Zach Taylor, the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. 308 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooer had a lot of respect in Detroit. 309 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: He uh, he was a coordinator there with the Detroit lines, 310 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: I think for a period of time. Mike McCoy, former 311 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: head coach of the San Diego Chargers, who was considered 312 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: a brilliant offensive mind, which is one of the reasons 313 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: why he got the job in San Diego. So I 314 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: think that's a real strong hire to add an experienced 315 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: offensive mind there. Richard and Gulo played for the Jaguars 316 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: as a tight end. Bernie Parmelee was uh the much 317 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: discussed positional coach from this past year under Urban Meyer staff, 318 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: and he was retained, which is I think it's great 319 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: because Bernie Parmly is a great guy and he was 320 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: treated like garbage by the previous administration in my opinion, 321 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, and then Todd Washington has 322 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: been here before as well. If it's the same Todd 323 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Washington and I'm thinking about and he comes back, and 324 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: and Todd's a super guys, so very strong offensive staff. 325 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: A lot of offensive minded head coaches can sometimes shy 326 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: away from having strong names or strong personalities or people 327 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: that have a lot of experience doing what he's done. 328 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: So but I like when you've got a guy like 329 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter and Mike McCoy with Press Taylor and 330 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: with of course the head coach, their offensive experience, all 331 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: of that experience I think is nothing but a good 332 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: thing for Trevor Lawrence in this offer. Think about the 333 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks those guys have been around Taylor up in Philadelphia, 334 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: of course, most notably Jim Bob Coonter with Matt Stafford 335 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit, excuse me, with Peyton Manning as well, had 336 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: some time in Denver with him, Mike McCoy of course 337 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. I mean, so these guys have have 338 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: seen it at a very high level before they know 339 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look and feel like and hopefully 340 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: can transfer over to Trevor. And I think it's a 341 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a real strong offensive staff. I mean, you're you've 342 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: got some guys that have been in the mountain, so 343 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: to speak. I think also with Press Taylor, he probably 344 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: at some point, if this offense goes as you know, 345 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: you hope it goes, he could become the next hot 346 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: offensive candidate, which that seems to be. Where these hot 347 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: candidates are now coming from is the offensive side of 348 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: the ball. You know what? That that would be good 349 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: news for the Jags. That means things are going very 350 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: well on offense exact, the coaches are getting offers and 351 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: opportunities elsewhere. Let's go to the defense now, and Mike 352 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Caldwell leads the way as the defensive coordinator, coming up 353 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: from Tampa. It's his first coordinator role. He's been an 354 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: assistant for a long time in the league. Bob Sutton 355 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: returns as the senior defensive assistant. Brentson Buckner is the 356 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Bill Shoey outside linebackers. Tony Gilbert gets 357 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. He returns. Cody Graham is the safety's coach. 358 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Secondary and cornerback coaches to Shay Townsend. He had a 359 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: long playing career, most notably in Pittsburgh and he went 360 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: to Alabama. Luck's assistant d line coaches Roy Siegrist and 361 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: defensive call to control is Patrick Riley, but called Well 362 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: gets his first coordinator role. And again leave this list 363 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: up of Caldwell. Excellent player, very respected, had an assistant 364 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: head coach position I think with the Jets, which shows 365 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: you the level of respect that he has around the league. 366 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: For for a head coach to name him in that position, 367 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: that's outstanding. Bob Sutton, who was on the staff last year, 368 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: is an absolute wealth of knowledge. He's been there, He's 369 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: done that in the game for what forty years. He's 370 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: a guy that you can when you've got a first 371 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator, that's the kind of guy that you'd 372 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: like to keep on staff. Or Mike Caldwell. Brentston Buckner, 373 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: of course was a really good football player de line coach. 374 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: I like players that have played the position, coaching the 375 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: positions that they played. Tony Gilbert I think he has 376 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: done a very good job here. He's retained. Cody Grimm, 377 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: I believe is the son of Russ grim Hall of Fame, 378 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: former member of the Redskins offensive line in the hogs 379 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: uh De Shay Townsend who has been a great former 380 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: player and and it's not Redskins anymore to Washington football team, 381 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: but when he played, it was the Redskins. Okay, So 382 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: for all you sensitive people out there, uh sorry, just 383 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: suck it up. De Shay Townsend who has been a 384 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: great football player for many years. And uh and I 385 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: think it's a great higher there because he's been around 386 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: the block, so to speak as well. So I think 387 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: I I really like the combination on the defensive staff 388 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: and I'm glad they got experience to be with the 389 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: first time coordinator. And just hearing from Doug Peterson as 390 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: press conference this past week, you know, hey, defense are 391 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of on their own because Peterson's gonna be calling 392 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: the plays on offense. Yes, you'll have an oversight thing 393 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: on defense, but it's might called well show over there 394 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: on defense. And I'm curious tomorrow to see exactly what 395 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: he puts out there of what they want to be 396 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: on defense. And that's I think that's the one. The 397 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: one if if you're looking at history about where you 398 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: look where he's been, Okay, and most recently he's been 399 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They don't 400 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: do a whole lot of exotic type of things. They 401 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: rely on a four man rush. So the real secret 402 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: there is that if he's a coach, and I think 403 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: that you have to be in today's day and age 404 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: in National Football League, you have to be able to 405 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: adapt to your personnel because there's no vide of aas 406 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: on defense right now. Okay, there's uh no guy by 407 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the name of Sue and there's not a guy on 408 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: the outside that might be missing a finger, but he's 409 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers that there is. Okay, 410 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: So my point being and that you've got to be 411 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: willing to be able to morph into what that defense needs. 412 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: And I hope that Mike called Will is that the inexperience. 413 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: We don't know for sure if he is at but 414 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: I think with Bob Sutton there to help him and 415 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Mike called Wall having a lot of experience around the 416 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: National Football League, at some point you gotta let a 417 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: strong candidate, a guy that has a lot of respect 418 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: around the league finally drive the ship. And so so 419 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, happy for him. A couple of 420 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: special teams coaches named as well, and special teams coordinators 421 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: he farwell he was a ten seasons he played in 422 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: the NFL and was a special teams captain throughout his 423 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: time with the Seahawks. Luke Thompson the special teams assistant 424 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: far a while forty years of age. He was a 425 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: coordinator for the Bills the last three seasons, and special 426 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: teams and assistant with the Seahawks in sixteen and seventeen, 427 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: the Panthers in eighteen and now getting a second go 428 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: round as a coordinator in the NFL. So a great 429 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: opportunity for him. And I think special teams coordinators are 430 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: are very unique and that they have to be able 431 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: to draw upon some experience and and one of my 432 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: favorite coordinators in the league is Brent Boyer, who talk 433 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: about him often. Yes, he was a special teams player 434 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville in a really good special teams player, 435 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: and he's been one of the better special teams coaches 436 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And uh he's currently working 437 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: with Robert Salo with the New York Jets. And he 438 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: was retained from the previous staff up there in New 439 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: York because he's a he's a player that's been there 440 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: and done that, and so with farewell having been there 441 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: and done that. I like that. So a lot of 442 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: former players on this. Absolutely, there are guys that have 443 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: played in the NFL and played for a good length 444 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: of time in the NFL too, not just a cup 445 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: of coffee. I think that matters in a lot of 446 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: cases because when when a player learns that their coach 447 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: played the game, I think that there is a certain 448 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: level of respect that is afforded to them. But then 449 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: after a while you had that, the coach has to 450 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: start giving you tools results to be better and and 451 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: to help make those players better. Otherwise that respect evaporates. 452 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: So there has to be a give and take, and 453 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: so again that respect will be given, but then it 454 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: has to be continued to be earned. And I think 455 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: that's the challenge any coaches. But when there's a former 456 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: player in that position, at least the initial respect happens, 457 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: it gets you in the door, but then you better 458 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: start making that Hey what can you do for me 459 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: to make me a better player? That's really what it's 460 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: about for a lot of guys exactly, and and creating. Now, 461 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: when we heard this term last year with urban Meyer, 462 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: and not to bring him up, but he talked about 463 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: helping players increase their value and that's one way to 464 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: put it. It's but the simpler way to put it 465 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: is just hell to help the players be better because 466 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: when they're better, the yes, it does increase their value. 467 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't like it from that standpoint because it's not 468 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: a team oriented comment. You want to make that player 469 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: better so that the team can be better. That's the 470 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: reason why you want to make that player better, not 471 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: so that he can get a big, fat contract somewhere 472 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: else next year. You want to make that player better 473 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: so you can win. What this game is about is winning. Well, 474 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I bet you didn't know that. We've kind of less 475 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: side of that. I think thoughts, it's better to win 476 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: than lose. You listen to me, JP deep thought. I've 477 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: missed you for a couple of weeks. It's good to 478 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: have you back to keep us on track. We'll come 479 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: back and hear from Jaguar's head coach Doug Peterson about 480 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: the Jaguars quarterback with a Hall of Fame quarterback on 481 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: an interview earlier this week, and we'll go around the 482 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: National Football League a little bit later. It's Jaguars Happy 483 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars Happy Hour continues 484 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon renew now Roar later the time 485 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: is now to a New York twenty twenty two Jaguars 486 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: season tickets. Season ticket members who are new by March 487 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: fourth will also be inner to win one of fifty 488 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: four scratch packs with prizes including signed merchandise, exclusive access 489 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: to events at the Bank, and even a trip to 490 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft in Las Vegas. Renew now at Jaguars 491 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: dot com and welcome back J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lagman. 492 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Jaguars Head. It's Doug Peterson. He visited 493 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: with his former teammate this week. Brett Farve. Brett Farve 494 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: as a co host is now a co host on 495 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: NFL Excuse Me Serious x M NFL Radio and Doug 496 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Peterson was a guest on the show this week and 497 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: far asked him about the quarterback so far. You know, 498 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: that's the thing. As you talked to Trevor, he he 499 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: just he just wants to get better. He wants to win. 500 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: He's a proven winner. He did throughout you know, his 501 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: his days there at Clemson, and he's a he's a 502 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: tremendous leader, uh you know inside the building with the 503 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: football team outside the building, you know, and there's a 504 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of good things, um that he 505 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: does that that you can work with and and you know, 506 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: things that you can clean up and uh still want 507 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: to maintain, you know, aggressiveness, to want to maintain athleticism. 508 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to change that stuff with him. But 509 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to teach him how 510 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: to play, you know, quarterback in the National Football League. 511 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously my varience watching you know, watching 512 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: guys like you Bretton just how you how you prepared 513 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: yourself and how you you know, led the football team. 514 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: And obviously I spent time with with Dan Marino you know, 515 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: earlier in my career, and guys like that that and 516 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: like yourself, that really has kind of shaped you know, 517 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and how we were coached too, you know, um our 518 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: days in Green Bay with with Mike Holmgren and you 519 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: know Mooch and you know Marty Mornaway, Gandy reads all 520 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: those guys how we were, how we were taught, and 521 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: that's those those those same basic principles you know, hold 522 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: true today. And that's why I'm excited to be able 523 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: to work with Trevor and and uh, you know, uh, 524 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: continue to to watch his you know, uh success and 525 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: growth in the NFL obviously around a number of different 526 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks there. That's Doug Peterson on the series x M 527 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: NFL Radio earlier this week. Brett far Of, a co 528 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: host of that show, who asked him the question we 529 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: did not air there, but he was he was a 530 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: backup under Dan Marino. He was a backup too far 531 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: It was a player two different type of kind of 532 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: skill sets there. And then as he's going on as 533 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: a coach, you've seen him work with a number of 534 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: different skill sets in the NFL too, and that's the 535 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: ability to adjust to what the player can do. I 536 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: think will be um will be big for Doug Peterson 537 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: with the with the two stints that he had with 538 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay and uh talking with Brett Farve there, did 539 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: you hear some of the names that he threw out 540 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: that were with that Green Bay staff Homegron Mooch, which 541 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: is Steve Mariucci, Marty morning Wig, Uh, Andy Reid. I mean, 542 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: all of these guys come from that tree of Mike Homeground, tremendous, 543 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: tremendous offensive minds, and so a lot of times you 544 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: sometimes just have to have good fortune and an opportunity 545 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: to be able to spend time with people that you 546 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: learn a lot from. And Doug Peterson certainly had that opportunity, 547 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: not only learning from players, but coaches as well. Players 548 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: of the statue are far and Marino, but coaches that 549 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: he had in Green Bay, coaches that he had in Miami, which, oh, 550 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: by the way, uh Shula was pretty pretty dog one 551 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: good by the way. So a great opportunity that he 552 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: had to learn from from a lot of great minds. 553 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: Looking forward to a hearing from Doug Peterson tomorrow. Jaguars 554 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: head coach and the coordinators are scheduled to speak about 555 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. The press conferences will be available on Jaguars 556 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: dot com. And I'm sure he's excited coaching staff now 557 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: that they're officially announced. They've been here for a little bit. 558 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys, well they're officially announced. Now. 559 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: It's we're less than two weeks away from the combine 560 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. That's crazy to think Super Bowl got moved back. 561 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: So here you go. And then the offseason workout program 562 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: for new coaching staffs starts April four. I mean we're 563 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: like a month and a half from the vets being 564 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: able to come back and get in the weight room 565 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: and do all that, and then you're already looking at 566 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: free agency as mid March. I mean the league year 567 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: starts March six. I mean we're at it now. Yeah. 568 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: The the the off season for the players. When we 569 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: say the workouts start first week of April, most of 570 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: the players, the workouts don't ever stop. Yeah. For for 571 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of players, players have been if they haven't 572 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: had any type of surgical procedure, a lot of them 573 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: are still rehabbing something that was not operated on and 574 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: are doing some type of maintenance workout stuff. Some guys 575 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: have already taken that time off, and we'll take let's 576 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: say the a period of time to three weeks. When 577 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: I was a younger player, I might only take two 578 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: weeks off, but the older I got, sometimes it was 579 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: even less than that. So you just didn't stop because 580 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: you didn't want to lose what you would gain. So 581 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: for the players, it's not like they're sitting around on 582 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the couch eating Cheetos in their underwear, okay, and drinking 583 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: soda pop okay. They're they're working out and they're taking 584 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: care of their diet. Did you look at me when 585 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: you said that? And I didn't look at you. I 586 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: I looked at me when you said cheetos and soda 587 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: pop on the couch. I don't know why passive aggressive 588 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: logs something. Sorry that you're an NFL player. Sorry you 589 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: have a complex about that, but I was talking about 590 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: NFL players cheetos and but that's that's. Uh. The one 591 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: thing that's pretty cool too is that when when the 592 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: league year starts and the new coaches start, you get 593 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a jump on the rest of 594 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: the league, which I think is really good because you 595 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: want to be able to you want to be able 596 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: to start instill the new program, the new mindset, and 597 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: so I like that and I do hope. We were 598 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: talking earlier about the possibility of maybe getting the Hall 599 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: of Fame game, and uh, is it too much? And 600 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, is it too much? 601 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: And I was joking around about having the extra preseason game, etcetera, 602 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: extra preparation, and today's day and age of the National 603 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: Football League, with how limited it really has become, I 604 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: think it's it would be a really good thing if 605 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: this team were to get that opportunity. So you get 606 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: the extra opportunity because you have a new coach to 607 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: start earlier in the all season. If you can get 608 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: that opportunity to have that extra preseason game, I think 609 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: that would also serve this team. Well, not so much 610 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: from getting the extra game standpoint, but you're getting the 611 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: extra week of practice standpoint. That would be nice. It 612 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: would be And you know that that game, Let's be honest, 613 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, You're not seeing frontline guys 614 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: go in that game most every team if they even 615 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: travels those guys there in street clothes in the sideline, 616 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: they're not going to touch the field. But it gives 617 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: you that extra environment to practice. And I like that 618 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: aspect of it because you can say, Okay, during the 619 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: week leading up to the Hall of Fame, Okay, we're 620 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna allow our starters or our top couple guys on 621 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: the on the positional depth chart to get a lot 622 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: more work in practice leading up to the game. And 623 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: then once we get to the game, Okay, now we're 624 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: going to look at some of the back end of 625 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: the roster type of guys or the or the back 626 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: end of the depth chart type of guy. So I'm 627 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: okay with that, and a lot of people say, well, 628 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't make for a watchable TV. I get it. 629 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: I understand that part of it. It is it's incredibly 630 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: hard to watch some of the early preseason games. But 631 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: at the same token, when you're looking at just from 632 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: a preparation standpoint, trying to get ready from a season standpoint, 633 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: I think it's very valuable. I read an article to 634 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: day um the gil uh jil Hodges No Gil Hodges 635 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: as the baseball player, UM, Dallas Cowboys long time ran 636 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: jil brand Excuse me, jil Hodges played with the Giants. 637 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: I think right? Brand in his own right jil Brandt 638 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: my apologies wrote an article today NFL dot com um 639 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: about every team what they should go after and free 640 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: what what free agent they should have back? And his 641 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: was Cam Robinson. I'm curious your take on this. The 642 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: deadline to designate franchise players is March eight. That's coming 643 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: up relatively quick. He's eligible to be franchised again. I'm 644 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: not sure exactly what the number would be more than 645 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: last year. Or you obviously can make a deal and 646 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: extend him and do all that. Would you do that? 647 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: Are you confident in Walker? Little? Do you even know 648 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: yet has the staff been on site enough to to 649 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: really get to know the tape and know that where 650 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: do you stand on Cam Robinson? The FO you got, 651 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: you got a little bit of time to evaluate that 652 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: as a new coaching staff. For me, I mean, I've 653 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: been watching Cam Robinson for for many years and I've 654 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: been watching Joan Taylor for quite a few years. For me, 655 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer is to make sure that you 656 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: find a way to bring Cam Robinson back into the fold. 657 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: And I've said this many times before. I think that 658 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson could be the best right tackle in football. 659 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: Right tackle, yes, And I'm not trying to and I 660 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: but I can still pay him left tackle money and 661 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: play him at right tackle. You've got to make sure 662 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: that the players on board with something like that. And 663 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Walker Little is better than Cam 664 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Robinson at left tackle. But here's the thing I think 665 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: that you need to be realistic about. Right tackle has 666 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: been your weakness out of the two tackle positions. So 667 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: if you want to get better, then you you find 668 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: a way to make those positions competitive. If getting the 669 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: best two guys on the field is making a move 670 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: with Cam going to right Walker Little going to left 671 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: or can of being at left walker little going to right. 672 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: However that works. How are they view the best combination 673 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: as being? But you've got to create competition to to 674 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: achieve a higher level of performance, and Juwan has not, 675 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, has not gotten better a lot since 676 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: his rookie year. About this, guil Brand added this statistic 677 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: into his argument for Ken Robinson today. He had the 678 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: best pass blocking grade for Pro Football Focus of any 679 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: Jaguar last season. One sack and five thirty nine snaps. 680 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: Cam Robins impressive. And you know, if you franchise him 681 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: and do all that, then you're gonna move with fifteen million. 682 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing a number out there to right tackle, 683 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, and then well it's gonna be more than 684 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: fifteen man if he's if he's not as strong at 685 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: right as he is at left, are you, in theory 686 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: weakening two positions that way? Or as whatever you get 687 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: out of it right better than what you had and 688 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: you're okay with that? The Well, the reason I say 689 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: that moving in the right tackle would, in my mind, 690 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: I think be a great situation is that I think 691 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is an incredibly dominant blocker run blocker, he 692 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: finishes really well. He plays the game with great lean 693 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: not many offensive lyn Juan Taylor does at times, but 694 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: the consistency is not there. The finish by Juwan hasn't 695 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: been there enough. And with Cam you're talking about another 696 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: incredibly big body. Look, and you need to try to 697 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: find a running game to support a young developing quarterback. 698 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: The better that you can make it, the better this 699 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: football team will be. So and and look I understand, 700 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: Look he's a left tackle. You know, well, you'd be 701 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: paying him a left tackle money to play right tackle. 702 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't care. I've got a I've got a left 703 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: tackle on a rookie contract. Who makes it okay to 704 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe overpay a guy that would be playing right tackle. 705 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: But for all of that to work, you have to 706 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: have the player on board with it. If a player 707 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: doesn't want to play, you know, if a guy who 708 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: typically plays left guard doesn't want to move to right 709 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: guard and he's not gonna be on board with it, 710 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a happy player. So you have 711 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: to be able to have a happy player. And I 712 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: think that's what great leadership and great coaching can do, 713 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: is to sometimes have players do things maybe that they 714 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: ordinarily didn't want to do, but for the betterment of 715 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: the team, and then maybe in the long run, for 716 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: the betterment of them, it might be good of them 717 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: in the long run as well. Well. Here during I'm 718 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: sure the NFL scouting combine from Doug Peterson, Trent Balkey 719 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: schedule to speak as well general manager about that and 720 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: many more Jaguars topics. I believe that will be the 721 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: next time Trent Bawky schedule to speak to the public, 722 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: and then Doug Peterson tomorrow we'll talk about the coaches, 723 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they'll get that deep into 724 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: too something like this tomorrow, But that's coming up Art's 725 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: first second third from Indianapolis, and that will be the 726 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: big storyline because as we said, the eight that's the Tuesday, 727 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: and that's what two weeks away from this coming Tuesday 728 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: as the deadline. Well, I think that will be a topic. 729 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: I also think that the situation with the executive vice 730 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: president will also be a question may or may not 731 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: be resolved at that point, but I think that that's 732 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: something that is certainly maybe the number one story now 733 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: that the coaching staff has been filled out. So after 734 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow with the press conferences with the coordinators. Then I 735 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the May story to watch. The 736 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson thing is certainly near the top, but I 737 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 1: think the e VP situation will be at the top. 738 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: Like it. That's a lot going on in the next 739 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: few weeks ahead. We're back in a moment. We'll look 740 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: around the National Football League final look at the Super 741 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty six. Turned out to be a really good game. 742 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: At the end, the refs got involved, but that's happens 743 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: from time to time, and Rams are Super Bowl champions. 744 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: We'll take a look at some other news from around 745 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 746 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: Digital Network, Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the home stretch, 747 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com and Jack 748 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: social media, thank you. First of all. Second, you're looking 749 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: at the footprint of the new Jaguars Football Performance Center 750 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: on the practice fields. So they've chopped up one field. 751 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: They're moving some dirt around with equipment, and that dirt 752 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: part on the right is the footprint of the building itself. 753 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: That will be exciting. So it will be open for 754 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: training camp. I get a little while ago, but they've 755 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: fenced off the area around. They're starting to move dirt, 756 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: they're doing things, which is great. That's a good start, 757 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: I think. I think they started construction on that literally 758 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: the day after the last game here at the State. 759 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: They were putting up fencing for the construction area the 760 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: day after and brought in the mobile offices for the 761 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: construction company. Yeah, it was. It was wasting no time, 762 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: to say the least, so no day wasted there. That's, 763 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: of course the start of that. Hoping hopefully that'll stay 764 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: on track, and of course groundbreaking on the shipyards expected 765 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe mid year. Official ground breaking there. The fire museum 766 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: I saw today is up on a lift right now. 767 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: I drove by there on gator wall boolar lifted up. 768 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're moving it or how or what, 769 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: but that's a building tall, brick and mortar, and I 770 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: don't yeah, but there was I could see underneath the building. 771 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: They can do that is really incredible. I mean it's 772 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: really it's an architectural feet that they can actually take 773 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: a building or a house and pick it up and 774 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: move it to another location and then reset it down 775 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: and then have it still be structurally strong and the 776 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: integrity not be lacking in any way whatsoever? How do 777 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: they do that? Didn't they do that to the church 778 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: over here by the baseball grounds? Um, when they move 779 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: that in? I think it was the same thing right 780 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: when the ballpark opened and all that, because that was 781 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: just a blog. I don't remember. I got it was 782 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: so long ago. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, maybe 783 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: they did. That's it's pretty wild how they do that. 784 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that's uh. And how they can move. You 785 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: sit there and you look at like some of the 786 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: shipyards actually you know, you're not the shipyards project that 787 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about for the development, but you go out 788 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: towards like Blunt Island and then you see these big 789 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: giant things that are taking containers off of ships and 790 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: things and how big they are, and they just sit 791 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: there and they creep along and said, how do they 792 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: do that? Anyway? It's just amazing to me how they 793 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: can take giant structures and just pick them up and 794 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: move them like it's a it's an apple on a table, 795 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: Let me just move it over here. How about that 796 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: crazy stuff? But looking forward to the new complex and 797 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: we are and I it's gonna be interesting to see 798 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: how they how they because the practice fields are over 799 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: there and they are disturbed somewhat because you had you 800 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 1: had three full grass practice fields. So will the grass 801 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: fields that are there still remain undisturbed enough to where 802 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 1: until this opens up, you can still use those practice 803 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: fields or will they have to utilize the field inside 804 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: the stadium game field. They have the indoor over here 805 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: at Daily's Place. Obviously facility, it's not you can go 806 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: back and forth the indoor facility. I'm sorry, but it 807 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: wasn't built to be big enough. In my opinion, that 808 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: should be the training camps. The next question like what 809 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: happens well training camp. I mean they're saying they're ready 810 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: to be rock and rolling by training camp coming year. 811 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah on the fields, just the fields, but no building. 812 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: No thought is when that opens not you have the 813 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: fields will be ready to rock and roll. I don't know. 814 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Oh I think they gotta figure 815 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: out some planes. Okay, so I think they'll we'll see 816 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch, I think. So it is it 817 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: better have better have some fields that you can practice with. Yeah, 818 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna go in the parking lot. I mean, what 819 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: is this. It's like Junction, Texas are going to the desert. 820 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: Have you ever played a little bit of pick up 821 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: football in the parking lot? I have, Yes, It's it's 822 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,479 Speaker 1: not it's not very good. You might want to stay 823 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: upright on that one not good and and go down 824 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: to the car and turn right, you know, on on 825 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: the past pattern. It's not a good option route school 826 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: round the National Football League recap of Super Bowl fifty 827 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: six the Rams over the Bengals twenty three twady. There 828 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: was talk after the game that Sean McVeigh could retire 829 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: from coaching after leading the Rams to the championship. Nick 830 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: McVay said, at least he might have had a few 831 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: on the stage the other day, and he plans to 832 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: run it back. And as fiancee posted a picture of 833 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: McVeigh captioned it, No, he is not retiring. There was 834 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,479 Speaker 1: talk maybe he could go to TV and get double 835 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: the money. Well, he's first of all, he's very entertaining. 836 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: He's a he's a great leader, he's a he's an 837 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: excellent coach. Congratulations to him and his football team. Less 838 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: sneed who was with the Jaguars going all the way 839 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: back to who who? Who? I knew less very well 840 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: and he I thought they were crazy trading away all 841 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: those draft picks, but that they made it work okay, 842 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: and less sneeds were sporting that shirt that that's really 843 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: funny and he's implying a curse work right, Uh, good stuff, 844 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: But it worked out for them now long run, who knows, 845 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: But they're winning right now. If I'm Andrew Whitworth and 846 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm a left tackle forty years old, and I know 847 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: all this talk about McVeigh may be retiring and Aaron 848 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: Donald retiring, Look, those guys are still young. They're still 849 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: in the prime of their careers. No, it's not time 850 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: for them to retire. Andrew Whitworth though, if he walked 851 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: away from the game today, what would be wrong with that? 852 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: You're a forty year old left tackle. I think he 853 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: said he's about done, so I mean, and it was 854 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: his speech. I don't know if you saw his speech 855 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: on the stage. I guess I guess I didn't. He said, Hey, 856 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, five years ago, a lot of people counted 857 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: me out, said my career is over. But I bet 858 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: on myself and this team took a chance on me, 859 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: and I'm here, at forty years old, home the Lombardi Trophy. 860 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: So bet on yourself. He said that was his message 861 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: the other day. Yeah, well he's been he's been a 862 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 1: really good left tackling and could he play again, Absolutely 863 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: he could. He's still a good player. He's not a 864 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: liability in any way, and he's tough as nails, and 865 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: he's been a really he's not a Hall of Fame 866 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: type player, but he's a really good player, one of 867 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: those guys like Mike Cann who played a long, illustrious 868 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: career for the Atlanta Falcons. And by the way, anybody 869 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: who thinks that Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer 870 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: after this game, they're crazy. What if he wins another one, 871 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: then you can start talking a little bit about possibilities. 872 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: But right now, no, really good, really good player, but no, 873 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: considering where he was for all of his career. No, 874 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. He was just asking we can 875 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: have this discussion in Canton in August to look, there 876 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago we're watching Matthew Stafford 877 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: going what's wrong with him? Okay, So sometimes it's not 878 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: always about those that are around you. Sometimes it's about you. 879 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: You know you, uh, you point the finger at somebody, 880 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: three fingers come pointing back towards you at the if 881 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: you're onfense, could be pointing back at the quarterback pointing fingers. Okay. 882 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler cut by the foul Plkins. One year remained 883 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: on his contract. He took a pay cut last year 884 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: as part of a reconfigured contract and did not hit 885 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: any incentives in the deal. He played fourteen games, six starts, 886 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: only had four and a half sacks. He had a 887 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: million dollar bonus starting at five sacks. He was a 888 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: half sack away from a million bucks. The Falcons were 889 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: lasting the league in sacks only eighteen as a team, 890 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: and Fowler led the team. Um there, you know Dante 891 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: Fowler on the street. Now, well he gets a little 892 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 1: head start on free agency. And uh, I think part 893 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: of the problem that why Dante hasn't been able to 894 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: stick in one place. First of all, when he was 895 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: with the Rams, he was playing alongside Aaron Donald. That helps, 896 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: and by the way, that helps, But the consistency in 897 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: his performance hasn't always been there. And that's that's something 898 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: that is I think of concern to some people. He's uh, 899 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: he's been, He was and is an incredible athlete, one 900 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: of the most gifted athletes I've ever seen, but the 901 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: productivity hasn't been consistent enough with Dante Fowler and another 902 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: high Jaguars draft pick that wasn't able to contribute to 903 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: this organization. And that's the disappointing part when you talk 904 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: about Donte Fowler one in a long list of former 905 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: first you just want to start having draft picks that 906 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: stay here for a long period of time and then 907 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: are really good football players and that that do a 908 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of winning. It would be nice, good to see you, 909 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot for good to be seen. We'll talk to 910 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: you next week. Joe Fortunado, Brent Reeber, our entire crew 911 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: for Jeff Logging, and I'm J P. Shadrick. This is 912 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.