WEBVTT - Technology To Free Us With John McAfee 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.680 Sort of big question is this, How do investors like 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.800 us get access to the ideas, information and most importantly, 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.880 the right people that give us the tools of information 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.000 we need to make informed and educated decisions to have success. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.319 That is the question, and this podcast will give us 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.520 the answers. This is Mark Moss, your host. Let's get 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.280 this started. In the early days of bitcoin and cryptocurrency, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.840 people are afraid to put out who they really were. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.760 We have all types of people working behind alias is, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.239 animal accounts, and so forth. And the industry has not 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.080 been short on characters in the space, and none of 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.800 the characters are as big as the notorious John mccafee. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.319 John mccafee is famous for his anti virus software, which 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.240 of course carries his name and is still one of 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.000 the biggest anti virus softwares out there today. He's been 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.920 in the cybersecurity space for a long time. Then if 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:59.680 anybody gets security cybersecurity technology, it's John mccafee again. His 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.160 character here has been larger than life. He's had his 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.640 own Netflix show kind of showing some of the stuff 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.119 that he's done throughout his life. Um, he's been pretty 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.840 notorious being outspoken against a lot of the oppression that 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.120 we see from the government, the financial and the lack 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.520 of privacy as we call it. He liked to say 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.840 that we don't have privacy, we have to take it right, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.399 we have to hide. And anyway, we sat down with 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.640 John mccaffee, we jumped into a lot of these topics. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.360 He talked about the golden cage that we're in, and 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.200 the keys that we have in our hand today, and 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.960 so many other interesting topics as you might imagine talking 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.280 to John mccafee. So it's a great conversation. Let's ahead 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.880 and jump right into it. Hello and welcome to another 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.039 episode of the Market Disruptors podcast. Today I am joined 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.160 by John mccaffee, who doesn't need a whole lot of introduction. Uh. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.840 He's uh, he's definitely been a big person in the space, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 talking a lot about the technology from a different perspective, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.120 and so I'm really happy to have you on. John, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.520 Welcome to the show. Well, thank you very much. I 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.200 appreciate to having you having me Onlark. Yeah. So, um, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.120 as I said, you don't need a lot of introduction. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.800 You've been a pretty pretty a pretty big person, a 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.880 character in the space for sure, but maybe just for 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.680 a few people that don't know, just kind of briefly 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.280 tell us about kind of your perspective. How you got here, UM, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:16.800 what you know, what you've been working on? What you 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.359 How you got here? Okay, all terms that we're here 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:27.000 is UM, Yeah, I got here. I got here. My 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:34.799 political here technically because the twobjectory of my experience, which 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.760 has been your computer technology, right, the first job had 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:45.839 UM come perspective, UM pret cocon and say, I got 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.720 here because one of my employees came to visit me 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.679 and Belief and two pals men en uh bought the bitcoin. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.679 I read Dad immediately saw where this was headed. We've 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.680 gone so far since midcoin. I mean, you've gone so 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:11.400 far in block chain um to include privacy, include smart contracts, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.200 and all the kinds of function now with you on 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.400 the blockchain, so that one simple coin at one very 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:24.280 um simplistic equation has expanded and blossom to an entire 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:29.400 industry which is going to change the face of society, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.880 either for the better for the worst, depending on their 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.600 army pocisions. Yeah, which I which I want to talk about. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.560 That's an interesting conversation. But you've been kind of at 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.520 the forefront of security. I mean, obviously mccafee anti virus. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.520 I got a brand new computer and it's like it's 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.320 prompting me to update my mccafee antivirus. So you've kind 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.400 of been at the forefront of that, UM and and 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.680 maybe even with the life you've been living down in 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.880 Belize and around the world and whatnot, you've been practicing 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.720 privacy in your own life as well. So does that 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.680 give you like a unique person perspective? You know, are 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.760 your world view has been shaped in a way to 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:08.800 see you know, bitcoin in a different in a different way. Well, 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.960 you're making assumption that we actually have privacy or privacy 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.400 as possible in today's world. And I'm afraid that I 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:22.039 have to say, as when I see the world, we 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:28.120 have no privacy. What's over right is not possible. Um. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.960 You know what we have UM left, and that's only 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.400 for the few like me, is the ability to hide. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.279 In this conversation, I has been listened to by probably 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:43.520 thirty different agencies and all trying to find where they am. UM. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:48.039 That lack of privacy, once I understand it is listening 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.599 is easy to deal with. If my my aim is 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.440 simply to avoid avoid discovered um, you know, I know 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.360 enough about computer security that if I do, don't want 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:03.919 to be found. If draw it, trustpect you like. And 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.120 even though as I said, this is not private and 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.719 they listened to my structure and my layered network of 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.039 virtual private networks and not the type you down from Google, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.839 I mean serious virtual words, multi layers. You just can't 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.760 find me. Yeah, so two different things, you know. And 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.880 that's the last thing we have left, and that's us 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.720 to be to be hidden. But see to do that, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.919 like we don't have phones, we can't have phones. Obviously 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:44.040 these phones are the ultimate spy device. Everybody is listening watching. Yeah, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.360 I've seen just recently. Um, I forget which country, but 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.159 they want to make it where in order to even 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.240 buy a SIM card you have to do a facial recognition, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.680 like they won't even give you a SIM card without that. Yes, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.839 it's crazy, of course I know that. Why because our 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:07.360 smartphones is how we are monitoring, controlled and surveillance by 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:13.640 our governments and institutions and regulatory about it. Um. And 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:18.039 and if you have one, I promise you there is 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.000 no software, hardware or anything you can do in the world. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.479 It will keep your life fine. I mean unless you 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.359 put your phone in the freezer at night, shut the 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.560 door and leading there because turning it off doesn't help. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.000 I mean you think you think it was actually turn 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.440 off from the It's a software switch turns all the 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.520 power off to the lights and anything the grains. But 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:48.039 it's still running for um, you know, chewing up a 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:53.640 minimum amount running and con turn on the microphone and 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:58.520 turn on the camera. They can continue to read what's happening, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.680 you know, an attempt to community Asian. Um. No, people, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:09.359 She's yeah, it's it's definitely scary. And you know we 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.120 know that because now the phones have Siri or Alexa 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.320 or whatever they have, and so we know they're always 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.840 listening because at any time we can just say hey 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.160 Siri or hey Alexa, and I can instantly can instantly 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.840 get it, so we know it's listening. Um. It reminds 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.960 me Alexa, Alexa, and these things are just smoke screens 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.880 to keep your attention away from the wheel spy Alexa. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.440 What happens Alexa? Does Alectualy get into your car with 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.120 you go to work? Does it go out with you 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:43.360 on days? No? Does your phone? Yes? Right, your phone? People, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.120 It's not like it's not your TV that's listening to 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.120 your conversations. You can walk out of the room, Hello, 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.080 what's your phone? Yeah, I have an Android phone, so 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.280 I have Google, so I can say okay Google and 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:00.320 like it instantly comes on. It just did, so, like 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.280 I know what you listening. But it reminds me of 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.240 the quote from one of our forefathers, and I think 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.640 it's it's been misattributed either. Thomas Jefferson said that you know, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.679 those willing to give up safety for security deserve neither. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.800 And we're giving up safety or security for actually actually 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:22.320 giving up. It's giving up um freedom for safety. I 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.440 think that's what you're going to side, right, Yeah, and 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.120 they deserve neither, right, So we're giving up, we're giving 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:32.640 up our privacy, our security for convenience. Yes, absolutely, that's 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.679 it an to do that. That's fine. I mean I 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.040 I still live in this world quite CONFU. Myew move 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.520 is being monitor I simply choose my words. I put 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:49.600 out enough disinformation that I'm still safe even though I'm watched. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.480 That we have to change our attitude to be living 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.480 in this new AIDS. It's coming up. Yeah, And and 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.600 it's a shame that most people have no idea why 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.720 they need privacy. I hate to see people say, well, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.920 I have nothing to hide, so I don't need privacy. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.160 We'll see that those people who say that has never 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.079 looked at themselves, because there's not a human on this 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:15.400 planet that does not. In every single meeting with every 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:21.040 single person, UM used a set of privacy filters and 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.600 an example. You buy something with the storage and you've 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.480 never seen the checkout pork before. Do you say, Hi, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.320 I my mothers my brother's wife last night. I'm kind 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.160 of worried about it. Do you know why you don't 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:39.400 we feel because it's private in that relationship. Yeah. Um, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.760 you know you you call into work and you're not 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.560 really sick, but you want to play golf with your friends, 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.599 and nothing really happening at work, and you tell you 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.360 about you're playing golf. You might tell your friends and 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.520 your friends find another Hey, your boss will lead you absolutely. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.600 What are you gonna tell your boss? So I lied 0:09:55.640 --> 0:10:00.280 to you yesterday. Maybe people don't do those things, but 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:05.199 I promise you every relationship that you have casual acquaintances, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.559 you might tell them where you live, don't do things 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.240 about your life. Closer friends, you might tell them a 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.160 lot your best friends. You might tell them everything, and 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.640 the same thing with your spouse, but maybe not. Yeah. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.440 So I promise you, people you think you've got nothing 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:25.079 to hide, it's high from whom for sake if you 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.120 take the entire world you got shipped to hide. Yeah, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.640 look at yourself, especially especially in today's world, more than ever, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.880 because the world is so polarizing today that no matter 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.440 which side you're on, someone's gonna hate you. I'm pro life, well, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.280 people hate pro life. I'm pro choice, well, people hate 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.760 pro choice right like I'm Republican. I'm like, no matter 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.800 which side you're on, there's somebody opposing you, and so 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.640 which is where? Which is? Which is where censorship eventually 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.680 comes from. If you're on both sides and I hate 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.760 what you're saying, I wish you didn't say it. I 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.439 wish I didn't have to see ship like that, that's okay. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.080 If if broth sides are really that's what. If you're 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.920 an extremist group and you say something that both sides hate, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.280 suddenly censorship always comes in, and doesn't you're not allowed 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.720 to say that. That's defensive to everybody. My own Chamus 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.760 is showing me where someone had quoted saying, I I 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.040 don't think uh, sex with children is bad. There's a 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.240 police sex with children when it's not consensual. That's a 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:28.280 terrific statement, right, But does it make healing any way? 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.280 Change your attitudes going oh oh, I think it's okay 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.679 to have sex with children. No, we get angry. So 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:39.200 what happens, nothing changes in the world. Be a fucking crime. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.199 What is the crime is that you suddenly hate the 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:49.040 person who stated and believes what you hate. So now 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.040 you hate that person. We want to censor them for 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.400 what crime? The crime of being hated. He's got people. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.800 That's what censorship is. Yeah, now I know, um you 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.839 wanted to talk about or you wanted to come on 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.640 the podcast and top because you don't like to be 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.400 on mainstream media. Um and and we have this kind 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.000 of alternative system. Now, the Internet is created, this alternative 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.520 system for information where we could do something like this, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.480 um and and reach a large audience. But then we have, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.440 you know, cryptocurrencies, which are creating an alternative system, maybe 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.600 not just for money, which a lot of people think 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.800 of money right now, but also a technology, as you mentioned, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.240 kind of to free us. Well, let's let's look through 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.360 the example on how we are told looking financially, of course, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.839 and the the US doll or for example, if you 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.160 in the U s which is the the legal tender, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:49.520 it's actually written on the dollar that this is everybody 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:55.559 must take it. Um. And so the the Fed can 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.280 do whatever they want in terms of money supply, for example, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.439 all all the things that can buck you over, and 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.319 let's say, increase to supply money which decreases the value 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.240 of your harder and savings. And you think this hasn't 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.760 having governments have done this to extremes, like like inflating, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.640 like in Germany. And the food is by a factor 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.600 of ten, making all of your fruits of your labor 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.920 worth while ten of what they used to do. You're 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.800 at the mercy. Not only that the far move more important, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.800 they said more and ten thousand dollars in cash. And 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.160 you can't look from one computer another, I think you're 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:37.840 a criminal. Um Why because they want all with your 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.920 money flow to go to a channel that can be talented, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:49.120 monitored and controllable stopped. They want for example, and so um, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.559 this is the situation that we're in. And if you 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.839 think that this doesn't make you a slave, let me say, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.440 if the person who owns or controls that money controls 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.880 everything in your life. You cannot pay the rent by 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:06.160 a car, send your kids to school getting without it. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.000 What if we had our own controlled by nobody so 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.959 that it cannot be an increase in supply or a 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.600 decrease in supply, or a monitoring system to make sure 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.120 that you're spending money in the way that the government approves. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.600 Are right? I think you see where we are people. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:32.840 So with cryptocurrency, we are freed from that completely. If 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:37.960 we use privacy coins and decentralized exchanges, yam, governments can 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:43.880 eithern know what you're doing or stop what you're doing financially. Yeah. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.920 I that's how I've looked at bitcoin where it's it's like, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 for the first time in history, right, we have a 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.640 way to hold our value that can't be seized or stolen. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.360 It can't be inflated or manipulated, and if I want 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.120 to transfer it to you, it can't be stopped or blocked. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.000 We've never had that before. It's like a brand new technology. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:05.240 You that's that's that that in itself is revolutionary. Yes, um, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.200 you know this whole thing with privacy and like me 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.360 having my privacy and me having my own money, the 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.600 government wanting to see everything I'm doing and invade my 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:18.120 privacy and have control over my money. I'm at the 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.680 end of the day. I mean, why do they want that? 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.920 You think that's something sinister? I mean they want it. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.840 They want to see every detail because they want ultimate 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:29.240 control to maintain power. Of course, of course, well, knowing 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:36.600 everything about a populace is the holy grail of dictatorship, 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.720 because if you know everything about everybody, you can control 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.840 everything that they do. And so governments want control also 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.520 of your finances, knowing exactly where every penny comes from, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.320 where every penny goes to, and because you must have 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.160 that money to live, you must conford to what everyone 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.240 rules they wish to apply to their any supply, like 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.520 you can't send it to a ran not this year 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.800 where we don't like them, um or what have you. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.120 And please give us of all the fruits of your labor, please, 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.040 because we're to goddamn lazy to figure out how to 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.720 earn money. As that's a that's a that's that's being 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.080 generous for them. Well, I'm trying to be all right, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:29.479 I mean, good God, all the money okay? In feudal societies, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.560 which we are in right now. If you think about 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.920 the funeral societies, the defining characteristic was the king owned 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.000 you and the land, and you were there at his leisure. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.080 Every year, you're required to work two months for the 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.480 king wherever he wanted to assign you and whatever he 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.120 wanted you to do, build the castle, carry the stones, 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.280 dig the ditch, or two months worth of the fruits 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.400 of whatever your labor was. If you're a blacksmith, who're 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.040 going to take horseshoes? If five percent of this and that, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.000 we're not trying two months worth of that. If you 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.720 grew potatoes and group, you know whatever, we're gonna take 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:12.960 two months supply if your potatoes. Imagine the hardships. And 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:23.160 yet today we work more. I don't think. So really, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.159 where are you? Well, I'm in California. So in addition 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.399 to thirty percent top federal tax rate, we have a 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.200 fourteen percent state income tax rate. Oh that's correct, that's 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:37.119 right too. And now they changed too illegal. Yes, all right, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.359 you've got two illegal taxes on you. Imagine the people. 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:46.119 Half of the year of your labor goes to the government, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.040 which does not I promise you give you a half 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:55.119 years of service in return. Right, But have you do 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.200 you feel like, oh, I don't mind paying taxes. I 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.760 get that much every year from the government. Well even 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.440 worse than that, even worse than that, I object to 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.520 how they're spending my money. Well don't we all? Yeah? 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.160 I mean, you know, my heart goes out to you. Yeah. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.680 So I want to chase this down a little bit because, um, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.320 it's something that I've been focused on. So again back 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.520 to the technology to free us. So right now, we 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.480 have this technology that seems to be enslaving us. Right so, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.600 as our phones, as you said, are spying on us, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.359 it's giving them the ultimate tool that they want. Um, 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.359 we're seeing things like in China, which is you know, 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.159 with the social credit scores and whatnot, where they're really 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.720 you know, I've heard you know, millions of people are 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.680 are limited from even traveling by bus now because of 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.520 social credit scores. And it's almost like this technology is 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.200 going to give them, as you just said, the perfect 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.359 tool for control. I mean that's kind of where this goes, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:54.240 right Well, yeah, yeah, here's our issue with technology. People. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.639 Up until the blockchain was created, all of the world 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:08.880 changing technologies like the ecomic the uh space rocket. These 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:13.360 things came from where, from the bowels of some government 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:19.800 research program, controlled by, monitored by and and motivating and 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:25.240 oriented towards those things that the government once Um, so 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:30.119 we're at the mercy of technology, even computer technology. When 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.399 I say government, I mean government slash industry. There's not 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:42.040 much difference anymore. Big industry, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, at Samsung, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.159 these are the big industries, are very little difference. And 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.840 saying they operate the same secretive when they're developing, why 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.840 I have to be you know what your competitors knowing 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.480 what you're doing. And we know the CIA and the 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.600 government is in Silicon Valley working with these companies, pardon, 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.000 and we know that the c i A. The government 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.840 is in Silicon When I say the government, I really 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.720 should say the CIA. And there's no difference on the 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.960 CIA is the controlling factor in America. So so yeah. So, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.000 But for the first time, the blockchain, which if you 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.439 do not think it is really changing, please look at 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:24.359 it came from the people, a group of less than 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:33.960 ten right geeky um uh programmer slash developers who came 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.480 up over a period of years with the idea and 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.280 the code for the blockchain and the first application for it, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:47.200 which on bitcoin. UM. It's from the people, and we 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.640 now for the first time in a hundred years, are 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.239 in the leading edge. We develop privacy coins. Governments are 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.119 just now noticing the good God, we've got a problem 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.639 with critical currency. We'd better find out about it. We 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:08.880 developed UM, the smart contracts. We developed things which are 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:14.000 truly anti government, things that the people can use so 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.960 that they don't need a government. You don't need a 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.880 government to back a dollar when you've already got more 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.920 narrow privacy coin or some other or d ai the 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:30.280 stable coin which is paid to the dollar. So who cares? 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.920 So do you understand where what governments lose? They lose 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:39.600 their financial control over the populace. And if they lose 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.399 financial control, they lose all control. Now isn't this how 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.120 it should be? For fox sake? Is the government's supposed 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.119 to be there to control us? Where is it to 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:54.400 be there to serve us? As I understand our fucking constitution, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:22:01.040 its purpose is to serve. You take job, sometimes unwillingly, 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.560 but you're the best for it, get paid, do your duty, 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:09.200 and come home. Thank God, that's over. I hated being president. 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.160 I'm sure that George was George Washington did not want 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.199 to be president. They had to drag is sorry as 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.760 kicking and screaming. And I'm sure after his term he 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.159 is going. Good God, I'm glad that's over. That was 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.840 my sacrifice for my country. Now what of people do 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.240 it for a job that pays two d and fifty 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.119 dollars a year. They paid twenty million dollars to get it? 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:37.359 Use of logic? People, where's the common sense voting for 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.680 these pricks? It doesn't matter to go No, it's not 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.800 his money. It's the money off his backers, his campaign 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.080 to donate whatever. Who gives a funk whose money it 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.120 is it's being spent to put this prick in that chip? 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.119 Are you crazy? You're actual vote for that person? No, 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.480 I want to vote for the person going. I don't 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.040 want to do it. No, you're the best man. It's 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.879 your duty to do it. It's a sacrifice. If you 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.120 don't do it, we want to shoot you. That's who 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.679 I want to for. Yeah, and like any any any company, 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.959 you know we talked about, you know, these big tech companies, 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.560 but any company really, in order to have a good company, 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.119 you have to build this company culture. Um, and it 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.560 really starts from the top. And as you said, like 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.800 with with George Washington, like they came here sacrificing their 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.480 life to lead a country, sacrificing for few generations. But 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.560 today the leaders are not sacrificing anything. They're all out 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.600 there to enrich themselves personally, and that sets the culture 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.760 for the whole country. It can't be. We can't have 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:41.600 that culture as a government. Please, people like, I mean, 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.960 it can't continue. Yeah, we really get this far. But 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.520 now that it's gotten as far, just take a look 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:52.359 at it. It's not what we intended, what we wanted. No, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.760 it's not what we wanted, and certainly we're not what 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.399 we need. So this has got to change. And who's 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.920 changing you? The government's not going to change itself no 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.840 matter how much we yell and shout. So give us 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.520 more entertainment to keep us, I don't know, from being 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.600 war started war or something. No, wake up and look 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.160 at it. He put these idiots and opposite people paying 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.640 money to get a fucking job next to nothing. What's 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:28.280 wrong with this picture? Please? Like like time to we 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.359 have time for one more question, my friend. Okay, So 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.159 we have the we have the technology that's working to 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.280 enslave us, and now we have the technology that can 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.080 free us. So we have this race which one wins, right, 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:44.680 So is that how you see it? Like a race? 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.000 Like the people need to adopt this technology at a 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.560 faster rate in order to we need to talk to 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.240 the faster rate. We need to stop looking at it 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.159 as a way to get which quick because that's a 0:24:55.320 --> 0:25:00.840 proved version of the intent of this. You know you're 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:05.359