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Speaker 1: be tremendous just based on the people on the show.

427
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: So when carl or Noah or Queen Victoria now got

428
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: us Victoria, We're gonna be on, I just knew this

429
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: was going to be outstanding. How interesting has it been

430
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: though it's been funny for me to watch and just

431
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: see like Brennan come in on day one, and I

432
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: feel like when Brennan comes in, he's the hot commodity

433
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: right away, all the women are talking about and people

434
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: want to make out, like that's the one that they

435
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: have their eyes set on. Right Thomas rolls in last week,

436
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like he sort of took he sort

437
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: of took the one seed real quick and took Serena

438
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: at like he takes from the day they're riding jet

439
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: skis or whatever that thing was and they're making out

440
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: in the water, and then poor grocery store Joe is

441
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: like going to go home again, Like we spend the

442
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: first hour of every episode thinking grocery store Joe's going home,

443
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: he's not sure what's happening. But then but then, how

444
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: about your boy agent Riley rolling? And now, like tell

445
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: me like that dude, Like if there was a definition

446
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: of alpha, yeah, that's Agent Riley right Like Riley right

447
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: now is and it's like he's not even like not

448
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: only is he like focusing his attention on the women,

449
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: like he has zero time for the other dudes, Like

450
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: he's not trying to make friends with anybody. He's like

451
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna take your day. He's gonna take or he's gonna

452
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: eat like a cow's tongue. He's gonna eat the he's

453
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna eat like raw tripe and like have zero, like

454
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: zero problem with that. And then and then there's extracurricular

455
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: activity after Like right now, it is like the show.

456
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: For me, it has been unbelievable and it's been funny

457
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: to sort of watch the dynamic through through these last

458
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: two weeks. How do you guys feel? I don't disagree

459
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: with you. I think the Riley thing has been the

460
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: most interesting to me because he comes in, he says

461
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: very few words. He really just like shows off those arms,

462
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: which everybody watching is like, yeah, that guy's just uh

463
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: and then he like am I just disappears and it's

464
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: like but he's I feel like he's kind of that Quae,

465
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: like that silent type that when he speaks, everybody's gonna listen,

466
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: and so he's gonna have a lot of control in

467
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: the house as things continue, especially as havoc and chaos

468
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: are ensuing. Um, but it's been a fun season for me.

469
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: Now I'll thirt it to actually give her thoughts, but

470
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: after she's done. I would love to hear where you

471
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: think of the guest hosting too. You know some of

472
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: these guys that are stepping in there and hosting. Obviously

473
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: you've hosted a few things for this company, um post,

474
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: you know your time on The Bachelor, So Ashley, what

475
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: do you think? And then just do what you think

476
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: of the host? Oh, I definitely find myself more invested

477
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: in certain storylines and others. Uh, definitely a grocery short.

478
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Joe and Serena, especially what you see their date tonight.

479
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: It's so cute. And then I just love taj Wan.

480
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: Do you love taj Wan? Like love? And the fact

481
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: that she's dating like the fact that she dated Trey's uncle.

482
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's still it's like mind blowing to me.

483
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: You've got to go to his to Tray's instagram where

484
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: there's a picture of the uncle and you can see

485
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: that the uncle's a very nice little thing. And then, um,

486
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I just love Natasha too, and I feel like she's

487
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: a basket screwed over, So I'm pretty invested in where

488
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: she her love life goes. Yeah, I thought it was

489
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool with Serena did too, like

490
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: she she stayed true to grocery store Joe, you know,

491
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, and I wasn't. Maybe you guys called

492
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: that like you saw it coming, and she's like, I'm

493
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: gonna go into state, but you know, don't, like, don't worry,

494
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: wink wink, It's all good. Like I really thought that

495
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: was that was done. I was concerned, Yeah, I was.

496
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the guest House? I

497
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: feel like you should have been on that list. I

498
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know, well, I mean i've I personally have liked

499
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: sort of the having kind of like there's been you

500
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: know too, I guess, well, technically two episodes each, and

501
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: it's been kind of nice to kind of get a

502
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: little bit of I found in totally different styles where

503
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: I think, like you get like the comedian aspect with

504
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: David Spade. I thought Lance was awesome. I thought he

505
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: was tremendous to um and brought a lot. And of

506
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: course there's there's more coming down down the pipeline, right,

507
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: is a Little John gonna host this? Yes? Are you

508
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: guys a little tired of the Bachelor pair? The the

509
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Little John intros Bachelor Paradise? Yeah? Yeah, it's funny at first,

510
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: and then I was like, Okay, not every time. The

511
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: first time, it's like super exciting after a couple of times,

512
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: like I expected. Now, Jesse, I do have a question.

513
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: You you are I'm gonna call you um A very

514
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: experience Like I said you you're one of the busiest

515
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: people entertainments. You're a professional host who had as experience

516
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: at all levels now on morning television, talk show, were

517
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: ali television, I would say I am like a D

518
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: level host where I've stepped into stepped into television and

519
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: hosted just a few things, um, which makes it still

520
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: fun for me because there's always something new to experience. Now.

521
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week, but there is a

522
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: moment with Lance Bass, who I think has done some

523
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: good hosting in his his um his career. I think

524
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: he's been on a couple of shows. But Riley is

525
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: sitting there on his day and they just start making

526
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: out and Lance is standing there in the room with them.

527
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: As a professional host. What would you have done in

528
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: that scenario? Because Lance readily admitius, I didn't know what

529
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: to do. I didn't know how to respond. I didn't

530
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: know to leave to videotape to watch to make a

531
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: joke like what would you have done? Yeah, I mean no,

532
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: it's like, actually I think Lance, I mean, I don't

533
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: know that that that's obviously a tricky thing. I think

534
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: as you guys know, like from from like hosting, Um,

535
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: you have to start of let that moment play out.

536
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: And it's like you either like you obviously can't interrupt it.

537
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: You can't make a joke about it. You can't be like, guys,

538
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: I got more questions on the card. We've got some

539
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: more uh, we got some more tripe. We gotta let's go.

540
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: You have to sort of let that happen. That that's

541
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: great television. Everybody at home and Bachelornation, we're all watching

542
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: that makeout session after they both just ate tongue and stuff,

543
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: and we're like, wow, this is crazy. It's kind of gross,

544
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: but it's awesome. There's a connection whatever, um, and you

545
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: have to let it happen. It was weird that, you know,

546
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's awkward for him, I'm sure because you're

547
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: you're standing there and you're like like looking around you

548
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: like do you like moonwalk like like off camera. I

549
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: mean I think he handled that probably as well as

550
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: as well as anybody could. I don't know. Is that

551
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: something that you noticed right away when you saw it. Yeah. Yeah,

552
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: I just think about like those scenarios and in hosting

553
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Paradise has got to be pretty difficult, especially

554
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: even the Bachelor in these moments, because you're trying to

555
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: guide people too intimacy and still once intencit exists, you

556
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: no longer feel like you need to be in the room.

557
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Yet he was, so I just I thought that was

558
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: one of the most Like there's always that moment during

559
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise where uh, you feel like you can

560
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: relate with the people there or the host. And I

561
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: feel like I could really relate with Lance, and probably

562
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot of the audience did. I would have like

563
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: grabbed my phone and been like, yeah, how my investments

564
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: do start finding things like to the Patriots, like they

565
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: picked a starting quarterback and what's happening like trying to

566
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: just try to look busy while you're buying yourself in

567
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: a room with two people making out, Jesse, I have

568
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: to be nosy for a second. I just noticed that

569
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: you're wearing a wedding band. I am, does that? What

570
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm married? Oh? You are married? Yeah?

571
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I thought that you said before that you were engaged

572
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: when you were like, you're engaged, and I was like, yeah,

573
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: I was engaged. He was he was engaged. Okay, so

574
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: now you're married. So you guys got did you guys

575
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: get a Did you have like a pandemic wedding? We did? Actually,

576
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: it was it. I think it breaks my heart worse

577
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: than it than it hurt Emily Um. We had had

578
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: this beautiful wedding planned. It was supposed to take part

579
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: last summer in France and province and it was going

580
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: to be amazing. I was so excited, and because of

581
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic, obviously we decided to postpone that We're supposed

582
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: to do it again this past summer in July, same place,

583
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: same crowd, everything. I was super stoked and ready and excited.

584
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: But the pandemic didn't cooperate. And obviously we're one couple

585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: in millions around the world that this is impacted. Certainly

586
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: not lost. Honest. Her family's Brazilian um, so the situation

587
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: in Brazil wasn't conducive to her family being able to travel.

588
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm Canadian, had a lot of friends back home that

589
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: that weren't able to leave the country and travel at

590
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: the time, so we made the really difficult decision to

591
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: cancel it. Um. Emily and I had done a very

592
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: small intimate wedding, really really small um here around where

593
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: we live on the East Coast, just just to just

594
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to have have that moment, have our day UM, because

595
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: we've been looking so forward to it for for a

596
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: very long time and we're anxious to to kind of

597
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: take the next step. I'm still hoping that next summer

598
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: we can do something with our parents. It breaks my

599
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: heart that that that my parents and her parents weren't

600
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: there to see it happen. And uh so I want

601
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: to do something next summer where we can get our

602
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: at least our families together and just do something symbolic.

603
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be like a big, big

604
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: to do a big thing um. But yeah, that was

605
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: sort of you know, we I'm so happy we went

606
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: ahead and did it anyways, but it was it was

607
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: a crazy It's been a crazy year and a half

608
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: these last two years trying to kind of navigate and

609
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: orchestrate all that stuff because it was was emotional and

610
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: it was tough. I'm so sorry and sad for you, Jessin.

611
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I got engaged March of last year and uh, and

612
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: we've planned it out to like November is our our

613
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: hope date to where we have a wedding. But you know,

614
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: you never know what life's gonna look like. UM. And

615
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: we've see, we've heard a ton of stories from people

616
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: just navigating this, and that is the tough part. I

617
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: think weddings and funerals are the two things that like

618
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: just break your heart for for anybody out there, especially

619
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: when the parents can't be involved and you can't attend

620
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: those those moments that you really want to be at. UM.

621
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: But you got married and that's the big deal. And

622
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: so as we close up here with you, UM again,

623
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: it's Jesse Palmer, the host of The Ultimate Surfer UM,

624
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: a new show that ABC is kicking off that everybody

625
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: should check out, even if you're not a surf fan,

626
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: that has everything. It's Jesse said at the beginning that

627
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: that you want in reality television, the drama, that love,

628
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: the competition, UM, the personalities. How has married life been?

629
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Now you're married? So for any be out there listening,

630
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: how you're holding up? It's been great. I mean it's

631
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's Uh, we've been together about almost five

632
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: years so this was this was something to her and

633
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I had both been really really looking forward to. I mean,

634
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: this thing weighs a ton, by the way, like dragging

635
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: my knuckles on the ground, like no one told me.

636
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: I fidget with this all the time. Jared does not stop.

637
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: He goes like this all day long. And then sometimes

638
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: don't drop it in the car and I'm like, put

639
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: that thing on your finger and came in there. You

640
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: and Emily are exactly last night at dinner, She's like,

641
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: can you put on you you know, you try to

642
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: use the mad like quiet voice like you had a

643
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: crowded restaurant. Put the finger and leave it on your finger.

644
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: I've never worn jewelry in my life, like I just

645
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: wore watches like I never I've never had any rings,

646
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: and this thing, it's so I just cannot stop fidgeting,

647
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: and I like fidgeting with it. And she's like, you're

648
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna drop it. You're gonna drop it into place and

649
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to get it back. And

650
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: so that is my daily struggle. That's the hardest part

651
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: of marriage really for me. Right now. It's just it's

652
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: just keeping this thing on my finger. Everything everything I'm

653
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: thinking about just a little note here and Jessicin I've

654
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: had this conversation a few times. Today I actually got

655
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: sent up the wedding ring that she designed for me.

656
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm very excited at But she did this, I think

657
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: in a passive aggressive way, um because I had told

658
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: her I want to get a tattoo of my ring

659
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: because I'm worried that I'm gonna mess with it all

660
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: the time and that I'm gonna not like that I'm

661
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna lose it and then it would break my heart.

662
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: And she's like, that's a good idea, you should do that.

663
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: But I'm also going to get you a ring. So

664
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: I have a feeling at some point I'm going to

665
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: get the I want you to wear your ring thing,

666
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: you know so. But anyway, Jesse, thank you so much

667
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: for joining us. Uh, it means a lot. Again. Can

668
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: you tell everybody where they can watch The Ultimate Surfer? Absolutely?

669
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: Ultimate Surfer. It's on ABC Mondays and Tuesdays immediately following

670
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. Thanks Jesse, You're awesome, guys. I really

671
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Congrats you both again and all the

672
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: great news. You guys deserve everything that come with your way.

673
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Thank you too, Ben. Have I ever told you this

674
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: story about Jared losing his wedding ring at the Blue

675
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: Lagoon when we were only married for three months? No,

676
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear that. It is the

677
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: weirdest story ever. I want to see if Jared come

678
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: in here, because he tells it way better than I do. Jared, Jared,

679
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Jared was okay. So I was just telling Ben that

680
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, you lost your wedding ring at the Blue Lagoon,

681
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: So I wanted you to tell the story because I

682
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: feel like you do a better job than me. But

683
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll start out by saying that when you get to

684
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: the Blue Lagoon, they tell you to take off like

685
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: any valuable jewelry, including your wedding rings, which sounds like

686
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: they they're just ready to steal it um. But it's

687
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: because the acids or whatever that are in the Blue

688
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: Agoon in Iceland, they tarnish real gold and silver. So

689
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Jared took off his wedding ring and didn't put it

690
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: anywhere in a pocket, in a backpack or in a pocket,

691
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: literally just put it loosely in the locker. Well, there's

692
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: signs obviously say take off wedding rings, jewelry, blah blah

693
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So I'm you know, she goes to

694
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: her women's locker. I go to my men's locker. I'm

695
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: taking everything off. So you stripped down to your bathing

696
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: suit and then I put the robe on, and I

697
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I gotta put take my ring off.

698
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: And so my locker was still open. So I took

699
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: my ring off and I just put it in the locker.

700
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: I didn't blocked it right there. I put my ring

701
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: in a pocket, in a pocket, in a pocket in

702
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: my backpack. I'm patting you on the back for it

703
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: right now. So fast forward a couple of hours. We're

704
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: in the Bluegon. I go back to the locker, get changed,

705
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: put everything back on. Mind you, this was only a

706
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: few months after we got married, three months, so I

707
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: hadn't been wearing a ring. I've never won a ring,

708
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: so I'm very I'm not used to it yet. Anyway,

709
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: in the car again, in the car we pull off,

710
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Ashley goes, where's your wedding ring? I immediately start stop

711
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: the car. My stomach drops. He jokes with me all

712
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: the time, though, like he such a joker, and he

713
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: tries to fool me all the time, so I think

714
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna like pull it out of his pocket or something.

715
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I was literally, I was literally the boy who cried

716
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: wolf in that moment because I was like, oh and

717
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: then so I immediately stopped the car put her reverse

718
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're joking, and I say, I am

719
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: not joking. It's in the locker right now. So I

720
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: go back into the area. They let me go back

721
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: into the men's locker room, which was very nice to

722
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: them because you have to pay before getting into the

723
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: locker room. But I told him I lost my ring.

724
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Go back in the locker room. The

725
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: door is still open, so I'm thinking it's it's got

726
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: to still be there. My locker is still open. No ring.

727
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: I look on the floor, I look everywhere around. There

728
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: no wedding band. I'm like, you gotta be freaking kidding me.

729
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: Three months after my wedding, I lose my Neil Rain

730
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Neil Lane wedding band. So then I asked all the

731
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: the I asked a couple of people that work there,

732
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: and then one guy was like, oh, you lost your

733
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: wedding band? Who worked there? And I said yeah, and

734
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if it's like on top,

735
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't find anywhere nobody's reported it to Lost and Found.

736
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: And he starts like walking to the lockers with me.

737
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, what are we doing. It's

738
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: not there. I already checked my locker in the surrounding

739
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: area and I told you this, But he's like, no,

740
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: nobody reported anything. And I was like, I don't know

741
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: where it could be and you know, and I'm I'm

742
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: telling him the story of when I took it off

743
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: where it went to try to give him any idea

744
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: of where this possibly could be. And he starts, because

745
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: he has a key to all the lockers, so he

746
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: opens the locker above mine, and in my head, I'm like,

747
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: what is this guy doing? And then he opened it

748
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: up and there was somebody's stuff in there, sneakers, pants,

749
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: somebody else's stuff, and then right in the middle on

750
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: the front was a wedding band and he's like, is

751
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: this yours? And I and I looked at it. I

752
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: was like, can I reach in and grab it? He's

753
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like, okay, I grab it and I

754
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: look at the inscription and I know that it's my

755
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: wedding band fits my finger and I'm like, uh, yeah,

756
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: that's mine. He's like all right, cool, and then I

757
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: was like okay, bye, and then I walked out and

758
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell just happened? How did my

759
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: wedding band get in the locker above mine? And how

760
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: the hell did that guy know that it was in

761
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: that locker unless it was a lucky guest and he

762
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: was going to open up all the lockers in the

763
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: surrounding area, and it just so happened that the first

764
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: locker he opened up, the wedding band was in there,

765
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: and he just let you leave with it, like just

766
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: you claimed it. Yeah, he opened up somebody else's locker.

767
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: I could have been like, yep, these are my pantsies,

768
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: are my sneakers? I gotta go see bye. Well, I

769
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: guess the more of the story is, Jared, you do

770
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: care about your wedding band. Ashley cares a lot more

771
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: about your wedding band. And then I should get a

772
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: tattoo because tattoos don't wear off in so you're gonna

773
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: get a tattoo on your finger. Huh, that's I think

774
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing with Jared thinks for joining us things for

775
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: sharing the story. Hey, good luck with the tattoo. No problem, guys,

776
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: anytime I'll be in the next room. It's time for

777
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: bachelor headlines. It's a big week obviously. Are very first

778
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: story is one that will blow in your mind. Staying

779
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: on the edge of your seat for this headline. The

780
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: news bat You Nations, Ashley, I Can Eddie and jaredy

781
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: him On reveals sex of their first babies. We talked

782
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: about the beginning, Ashley, We've already talked about having a boy,

783
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: but tell us all the emotions around it. Um, well,

784
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: it's uh. I was very much hoping for a girl,

785
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: and I just have to be honest there. I told everyone,

786
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: and I told so much press. I was like, I

787
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: hope it's a girl. I hope it's a girl, but um,

788
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm I will love and I'm and I'm getting very

789
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: used to the idea of having a boy, and I

790
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: just want him to be like a little Jared. I go, Jared,

791
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: since or having a boy, I need to create. We

792
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: need to make sure that we create him just like you,

793
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: so that one day a girl out there who's as

794
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: crazy as me can find her prince charming in our son. Um, yeah, Um,

795
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: so I hope that you know we are able to

796
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: raise him as wonderful as a gentleman as Jared's parents

797
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: raised him. Um. He If we do have a name

798
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: picked out, I joked in our announcement that it wasn't

799
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna be Tom or Brady. And I'll be honest, I

800
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: think the name Brady is actually adorable. But um, we

801
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: we already have a family dog named Brady. Jared's parents

802
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: dog is Brady, after Tom Brady, so it would just

803
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: be weird for us to name the son Brady as well.

804
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: And I've had a name for a boy. I didn't

805
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: have a name picked out for a girl, but I

806
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: had a name picked out for a boy since I

807
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: was like twenty years old, and Jared loved it so

808
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: much as well. And we recently came up with the

809
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: middle name that I think pairs so beautifully with it.

810
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: So it's really nice to kind of be saying, um,

811
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, referring to him by his name. I'm like, Jared,

812
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: put your hand on the belly and say hello to Beep.

813
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, yeah's name announced you gonna do? I might

814
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: tease it and like have some fun with it, like

815
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks leading up to the birth, but

816
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: I don't I don't plan on revealing it until he's here.

817
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. Um, well, big news. Super super

818
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: happy for the two of you. Obviously, no matter what

819
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: we knew, you're gonna be happy. Yes, I mean I

820
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I love him already of course. Yeah, that's just super fun.

821
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just a crazy cool rad

822
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: that we've been on with you and and through all

823
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: this stuff. So um. Also, you showed some pictures of

824
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: baby bump. It's out there, it's happening. It's out there,

825
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: it's happening. It fluctuates though, guys. Sometimes I like post

826
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: a picture when I'm pretty bloated and it's like, oh

827
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: my god, she's like really got a bump. And then

828
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: sometimes like I'll wake up and nobody would ever know

829
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: that there is a baby in there. So it fluctuates,

830
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: and I think it'll start being more of a permanent

831
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: thing in the next week or two. Yeah. Wow, this

832
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: is crazy, just being so fast you with baby inside

833
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: of you. So wild. Um. Well, other headlines outside of

834
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared, and that's obviously a big headline and fascination,

835
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: but Katie Thurst and hints that when she and Mollins

836
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: will tie the knot this according to us, She says

837
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: not soon at all. So yeah, it says he's Canadians,

838
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: so we have a lot to work through first. Very interesting, Yeah,

839
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: reading that as you will. Um. Also, Blake moys, this

840
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: is an interesting one for me. I kind of related

841
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: with a little bit. Um. But he says he admits

842
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: that Katie Thurston's great Grippo drama did take away from

843
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: their love story. Um. Yeah, that one's I'm glad that

844
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: he's being honest about it though, because we were all wondering.

845
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: He said, do I think that the whole Greg thing

846
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: did take away from the love story? Unfortunately? Yeah? Um,

847
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: it sucks that it was such a focal point for

848
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: someone who didn't actually end up with her. Unfortunately. It's

849
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is for people who

850
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: think it should have been Greg. I don't know if

851
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: anybody really felt like should especially I don't. I haven't

852
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: found any of those people out there, but I do

853
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: get that, you know, I like that he's honest that

854
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: it did take away a little bit. That's tough, um,

855
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, just to see that go down. It's a

856
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: weird situation where you're engaged and you're happy, yet this

857
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: is kind of weighing over you, and then you're seeing

858
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: the headlines and um, it just does. It's an awkward

859
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: a couple of months, it does go away and people

860
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: stop talking about over time, but at the very beginning,

861
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's hard to consume. So I mean, kudos

862
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: to him for being honest, because it feels like an

863
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: honest Um. I mean, it's got to be so frustrating.

864
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, you end up like engaged and then you

865
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: feel like you can't even celebrate it with the people

866
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: who watched it. Well, this one's odd. Thomas Jacobs, the

867
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: big old tall guy that on Paradise he said, you

868
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: want to change a damn thing about his behavior? This,

869
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: according to E said this to to Brian and uh

870
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: and Mike on their podcast, and Uh, I find that interesting,

871
00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: do you? Uh? Sort of yeah, But I also still

872
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: think that I still think that Thomas gets villainized for

873
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: very few reasons, just for him saying that he had

874
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: thoughts that maybe he could become the Bachelor. If this

875
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: is really what we're still going off of, I don't know. Um,

876
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: So it says this he goes, You're not going to

877
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: please everyone. One of the reasons why I think things

878
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: went so sideways for me was because I was running

879
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: around trying to make everyone as happy as possible at

880
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: all times. And more often than not, if you're doing that,

881
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: you're doing it to sacrifice yourself. Uh. He says, never

882
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: leave your foundational principles of who you are. Um. He

883
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: just said that he's like, was emotionally charged and he

884
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: felt like he was like diving into a bowl in

885
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: a china shop didn't work out. I get it. I mean,

886
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I think for my like opinion, and obviously the reason

887
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: this podcast exist is because we have an opinion. Um.

888
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, I do think he got villainys for unnecessary reasons.

889
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: I also think that he could have done some things differently,

890
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: especially when he communicated people, and then some of the

891
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: decisions he made to like kind mostly in Paradise. Really

892
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: what's the date right? Yeah? Definitely. Um. And on this

893
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: week's episode, obviously like Aaron and him don't get along,

894
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: and then he makes out with Tammy, which he could

895
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: have said, Hey, can we go somewhere else and do this?

896
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: They're like, I mean, it's hard to say given the moment, right,

897
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: he could have been really into it, but it does

898
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: feel like he's going after like the people that are

899
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: mostly hurt by him the most, like the most. Um,

900
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: but it's also good television and it's fun to watch.

901
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: I guess. Um, Well, this is the big headline and

902
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: we read into it as much as you want. But

903
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison remember that guy. He says he's not ready

904
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: to retire after Batchelor exit, isn't holding any grudges this

905
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: according to US, so this is some sores at US

906
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Weekly says, Chris Harrison is truly doing great. He's really

907
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: enjoying this time with his kids and growing his relationship

908
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: with Lauren Zeema. He lives a low key life in Texas.

909
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: When he's not taking trips or going on vacation, He's

910
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: soaking in these moments of not working and taking time

911
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: for himself and his family. He celebrated his s with

912
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: You his birthday last month, and recently celebrated his third

913
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: anniversary with Lauren. He sees at this time almost a

914
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: neat chapter in his life and is figuring out what's

915
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: going to be his next best move. Um. He says

916
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: he still keeps in touch with some crew and former

917
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelor and you know the cast, and then

918
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: he says it's the insider explains that everyone who was

919
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: close to him on the show really misses him and

920
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: wishes he was still part of the show. He reads

921
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: messages from fans and post on social media all the time. Um,

922
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: he says, he is not the host anymore, but he

923
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: still loves Bachelor Nation. Doesn't hold any grudges, which is

924
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: very sweet, and he says, especially with the fans, yeah, well,

925
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: always give me an updates on Chris and where he's

926
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: at life. But also it's beast and I have something

927
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: in common. Made it very open that my dream job

928
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: would be to host the Bachelor over fifty show or sixty,

929
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't know which one it is, but the senior

930
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: senior show. And uh Layne's bass is coming out very

931
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: publicly and saying it would be a dream job for

932
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: him to host Bachelor in Paradise. This is according to

933
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: et So he says that they have not asked him

934
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: to be the permanent host, and of course that's going

935
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: to depend on Bachelor Nation out there. Um, but he says,

936
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm part of Bachelor Nation, so I understand how volatile,

937
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: we can get we're very opinionated. If they like me. Um,

938
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, yes,

939
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: of course, it would be a dream come true to

940
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: be able to host a show like that. Um. That

941
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: was God being very nice to me because I'm a

942
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: huge fan, especially a Bachelor in Paradise. I like all

943
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: the Bachelor shows, but Bachelor in Paradise is just my

944
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: summer indulgence. I love it so much so when they

945
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: asked me to be a host, I flipped. I'm like,

946
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to walk into paradise. He says that coming

947
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: off of you know, Chris Harrison's footsteps. He says, those

948
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: are these are tough shoes to fill. For sure. I

949
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: love me some Chris Harrison. UM, but I need to

950
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: put my little two cents in here now because I mean,

951
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, I missed Chris. But if Chris isn't really

952
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: not coming back, which we really know he's not, uh,

953
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: and we really have to talk about a future host.

954
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I really really liked Lance's performance this week

955
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: as host, and it was only two episodes and I

956
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: felt like it could have totally been more, wanted more.

957
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: There was only a few scenes from him, but what

958
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: we saw, I thought he really shined. He was just

959
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: very warm and comforting too. And he was really warm

960
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: recomforting to the contestants. And I felt like he was

961
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: just very conversational, like he was the kind of guy

962
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: that you could like sit down just chat with, as

963
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: we saw with him with Natasha this week, and very natural.

964
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've really felt it. Yes, I do

965
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: think he'd be more appropriate for Paradise than say, maybe

966
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: the main show. But I'm also totally down to see

967
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: Lance try to host the main show. Um, what are

968
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? Am I being biased as a

969
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: huge Insing fan and like and and personally knowing Leans,

970
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: of course you're biased. I mean I think he did

971
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: it awesome, But I don't think he could have disappointed you,

972
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: because like he was gonna be lands and he knew

973
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: what he was gonna bring to the table when he

974
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: came in. He was a little funny, but he was carrying.

975
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: We've been around him. He cares deeply, uh for the

976
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: people around him. He's he's just I mean, I remember

977
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: with him in Vegas and we spent a good hour

978
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: um at the Plant Planet Hollywood, just chatting with him

979
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: and he was incredible, So you're biased because he liked him,

980
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: but you like him for a good reason. And I

981
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: think it death fit and I think it makes sense.

982
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, there's a lot of changes happening.

983
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: We still don't have a new host announced, we don't

984
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: have a Bachelor announced, we don't have a Paradise host announced. Um,

985
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: and obviously Bachelorette is being filmed right now, uh with

986
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: Caitlin and Taitia, but we don't know where that goes.

987
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: Are they in for the long haul? Are they're gonna

988
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: be switching it up? There's just so many things still

989
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: yet to be seen with this ranch. Eyes. Um, so

990
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: rolling out to the edge of our seats, we'll be

991
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: here the whole time. It almost famous talking about it well.

992
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Final headline of the week, The Batchlor's Rachel Kirknew is

993
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: in a good place with Matt James. Her quote is

994
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: it was a journey this according to people. Yeah. After that,

995
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: she says, I think we're in a really good place.

996
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: I think we've had a lot of love come our way.

997
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: But I like to think that even though people have

998
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: been super super nice, we just want to focus on

999
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: each other and put all that aside and let the

1000
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: noise stay a little bit more quiet these days. It's

1001
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: been good, though, We've been good. Just needed time, is

1002
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: really what they've been kind of saying, the two of them, um.

1003
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: And it's nice for them to be doing their own

1004
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: thing and spending a lot of time together. Yeah, it's

1005
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: it's good to see them together. And uh, you know,

1006
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I personally, as a fan, would just like to see

1007
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: and hear kind of how they navigated through that, because

1008
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: I think so many people out there trying to navigate

1009
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: through those really difficult circumstances and relationships and friendships and

1010
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: family dynamics, um or just people they run into. And

1011
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: so they obviously have worked through a lot based on

1012
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: when we last saw them, which is you know, talk

1013
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: about it, which is really on the after show, and

1014
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: now you know, they're spending a ton of time together

1015
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: and enjoying each other's companies. So it'd be great to

1016
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: hear that. Um. I mean, I don't think they're ever

1017
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna like come on a reunion show, you know, but

1018
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: I am curious as well. I would like to see it,

1019
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: but it probably won't happen. No, Well, maybe we can

1020
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: happen here on listening a podcast we'll see give a shot. Well,

1021
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have here today. Actually, thank

1022
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: you for breaking them down. We're gonna take a break,

1023
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna break down this week's episode

1024
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. It is a good one. We're

1025
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: gonna break down this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise

1026
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: are tremendous brand news. Again, we have a crazy good

1027
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: team here. Uh, Emma just wrote out the most detailed

1028
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: notes for us to run through. Ashley has a lot

1029
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: of thoughts along with these notes. So Ashley, let's get

1030
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: us started now. We begin this episode, uh with uh

1031
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: kind of running off of the Joe and Serena um reconnection. Obviously,

1032
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Riley Marissa are still canoodling um. Connor is waking up

1033
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: not knowing where Marissa is or when he came home. Uh,

1034
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: there's relationships forming. Ashley. What do you think? How are

1035
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: you feeling as you begin and dive into this week's episode.

1036
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: I feel like you're probably most concerned for Connor. The

1037
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: beating of the episode, You're like, Wow, he's gonna have

1038
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: to find out that the girl he really likes went

1039
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: to the Boom Boom room the night before. Um, but

1040
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: like also it's just so obvious that Marissa and Riley

1041
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: make more so much more sense than Marissa and Connor

1042
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: that like I actually don't even feel as bad as

1043
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: I should. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's like no, I'm sorry, dude,

1044
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: But like if you saw, it's evident. There's just like

1045
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: their chemistry is tangible, like you like you know, there's

1046
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: a headline this week where Risi got a lot of

1047
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: hate for her time with Riley in the Boom Boom

1048
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: room after their day. Now, we don't really know what

1049
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: happened there and nor is it really any of our business,

1050
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: but I think just to take that into consideration, like

1051
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: the reason they're in that room is because like they

1052
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: were both very into each other, Like it was very clear.

1053
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: And then the other big moment early on the episode

1054
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: is that we have Chasen and a guy named Chris, who,

1055
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: like nobody knows has a viewing audience, but apparently in

1056
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Bachelor Days community, Chris was well known really good friends

1057
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: with some of the guys, including Chason, which is why

1058
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: they went down together. And he was number white, number

1059
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: one sort of on just Snia's list to be there.

1060
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: She said that she wanted Chris to be there and

1061
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: Ivan to be there. And even though we feel like

1062
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Jenia and Ivan were going so strong that she wouldn't

1063
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: have said yes to a date, oh she did and

1064
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: she didn't have any hesitants. I would say this, that

1065
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: was a relationship. I was feeling more her over then, obviously,

1066
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: kind of like I felt for Ivan, because I did

1067
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: think that this was a shock or Chris walks down

1068
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: the stairs and like, I don't know this Chris guy,

1069
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, he doesn't stand a chance against Ivan,

1070
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: like Ivan is has always been like a very good communicator,

1071
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: very good looking guy, cared deeply and so like I was.

1072
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly was more shocked at like what

1073
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: happened there with Justina and I. I'm another backstory to

1074
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: like how she even knew this Chris guy existed? No,

1075
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: me too. Are we horrible for not remembering him from

1076
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: Player slash Tatia season? Probably not very good at jobs,

1077
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: but like the anomaly here, No, I think that we

1078
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: were like speaking the audience was relating to us right now.

1079
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know that he made it to the

1080
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Tatia part of the season. Yeah, it's he came out

1081
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: of nowhere, um, and maybe he's like changed his look.

1082
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: That could have been. I'm wondering if, like maybe he

1083
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: had a different look during that season. But I think

1084
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: he also mentioned he was like there for night one.

1085
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: He was just there from night one or yeah, yeah, yeah,

1086
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I think No, I don't think so. I only say

1087
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: that because it seems like he got so close to

1088
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: a couple of those guys. Regardless of wherever he stood

1089
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: during that season, He's there and he's making a splash

1090
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: in Paradise because just Sen is into him. So Jason

1091
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: takes Deandra on the day in Deandra is currently with Carl, right,

1092
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: but like they're not like a strong couple couple, Like

1093
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: they were friendly, flirty, maybe kissed a few times enough

1094
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: for him to give her the rose last week, but

1095
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: like nobody is like, oh, what a great love story

1096
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: that Carl and DeAndre. Anyway, so it's a double day.

1097
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: They do this tan trick thing, which we've seen so

1098
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: many times in the show where it's like basically like

1099
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: a sensual experience where like there's not a lot of touching,

1100
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: but there's like a lot of well I guess there's

1101
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: some touching, but like they're blowing on each other. They're

1102
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: touching without it being coming super sexual. I guess it

1103
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: feels a little sexual. But um, chasen and and Deandra,

1104
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: like she says she feels really comfortable with him. I

1105
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: think they like each other, but I also don't think

1106
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: that there's like some mind blowing connection there. But then

1107
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: with just Senia, she gets like super honest, and she

1108
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: tells Chris that she was the main person that she

1109
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: wanted to see in Paradise, and she says that, um,

1110
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: she and I don't have had a really good thing

1111
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: go on, but something's been missing, and that missing thing

1112
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: she feels with Chris. So right then you're like, oh, crop,

1113
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I've been and just said you

1114
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: might be over It's I wonder if Chris. I'm gonna

1115
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: look up to see when Chris exactly said goodbye, because

1116
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there was one guy there that I

1117
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: really liked um and I wonder if it was him

1118
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have his hair slicked down anymore. I

1119
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: don't know anyways, Um the date, I feel like those

1120
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: dates set you up, um to have a connection, and

1121
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: I like, you know what I'm saying, like, when you're

1122
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: like two beautiful humans like on a beach, you've obviously

1123
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: said yes to a day, so there's some type of

1124
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: attraction and then you're like rolling on each other, blowing

1125
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: on each other, tickling each other, and like like it

1126
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: feels like it's gonna set you up to have a

1127
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: connection more than it doesn't. Yes and no, Like if

1128
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: you don't like it, if it's happening to you and

1129
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you're like not feeling it, then you're like, Okay, I

1130
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: know this is not gonna work for this person, or

1131
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: can go the extreme out of the opposite way, right,

1132
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like you have to have some

1133
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: sort of physical chemistry with that person to to enjoy

1134
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: the date at all. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be so grossed

1135
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: out if, like I realized that there was like nothing

1136
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: there and he was blowing his breath on me. So

1137
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: Chris was eliminated week one of clear Seasons. Yeah, he

1138
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: wasn't even around. So how did she feel like she

1139
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: How could she put him on a list? You didn't

1140
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: know anything about him. I guess she just thought it

1141
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: was cute. Yeah, I mean they what do they do?

1142
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: So tell us this? When you go on parodies, so

1143
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: they send you a list of potential cast numbers. No,

1144
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: they basically say, like who from other seasons would you

1145
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: be into interesting in the world you found like I mean, jeez,

1146
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: this is when we get paid for Hiven know he existed. Well, anyways,

1147
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: they on their date, they come back, they kiss with

1148
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: the strawberry in between their mouth. Yeah, she said it

1149
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: was the best strawberry she's ever had, So there's obviously

1150
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: something there. Maybe the strawberry is better than the kiss,

1151
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: or maybe the kiss added to the strawberry. Well, there's

1152
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: a weird moment here that I want to highlight um

1153
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: where they all come back to the beach and Carl

1154
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: takes Sandra away and chasing like follows, which is a

1155
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: very odd especially Yeah, it's weird for for me to

1156
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: watch in Paradise. It's like one thing I'm getting over

1157
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: as a fan who's never been done there is like, Hey,

1158
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: people date other people and they like all kind of

1159
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: walk off and start talking. They have stuff to work

1160
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: through into like navigate that they need some alone time for.

1161
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: And so yeah, does Carl like drive half the people crazy? Yes?

1162
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Did he have something going with her? Definitely? And so

1163
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: like give him his space to like talking now, and

1164
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Jason just like stands over in this way. That just

1165
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: really like urg me. Yeah, it annoyed me too, just

1166
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, dude, this is paradise. It's not

1167
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette where you need to fight for time and

1168
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: you only get ten to fifteen minutes of alone time

1169
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: like every five days. This is paradise where you are

1170
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: literally living together. Um, you will find time to chat

1171
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: with her, don't You do not have to interrupt and

1172
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: don't have to feel I mean, I guess you can

1173
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: say he was feeling threatened and that he didn't want

1174
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: them to have alone time because like he was word

1175
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: that they would like rekindle something during that alone time.

1176
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: But I just felt like it was inappropriate for paradise

1177
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: when you have pretty much all the time in the world. Yeah,

1178
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: it felt weird. It felt hard to watch, and just

1179
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: felt like you didn't need to be doing that. Well, Um,

1180
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to fast forward. I want to make a

1181
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: note here. One thing that happened with this episode that

1182
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: I was a little frustrated with was I felt like

1183
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 1: we really highlighted a few couples and we didn't talk

1184
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: about a lot of the both there mean, there were

1185
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: some people who literally had no camera time. Yeah no,

1186
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: and Abigail like where are they at this and they're

1187
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of like the ones just having their relationship off

1188
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: this side. We obviously um totally missed him. We didn't

1189
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: get a ton of time with bo. I mean, we

1190
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: got enough to know where they're at. Our favorite um

1191
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: Taj is like on like she's just like off the

1192
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: camera for most of the episode. We have no clue

1193
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: she has a connection at all, separate at the end

1194
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: where she was amazing she always is, She's just hilarious.

1195
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: She says, what's on her mind? But I want to know,

1196
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: like I want to see her fall and like we

1197
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know where her and traced and probably not that

1198
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: great and it doesn't seem to be well and and

1199
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: really the heart so let's note that that I was

1200
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: upset that we can to see some of those people.

1201
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: But the heart of the episode really starts when Mariot

1202
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: Paul's Kenny aside and tells him that they have something good,

1203
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: but also that she's kind of like, I mean, I

1204
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: took it as she was saying, Hey, I want to

1205
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: date other people, which again I've now gotten to this

1206
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: point from talking to you and talking to other guests

1207
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: that like, that's sceptible still right now in paradise, but

1208
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: if she dates other people, I feel like he could

1209
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: be able to date other people. What did you think

1210
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: about this? There is a lot. I of course was

1211
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: thinking about what am I going to say in the

1212
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: podcast about this when I was watching it, because I

1213
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: think I sort of understood what Marie meant, but it

1214
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: wasn't communicating the best way, and I definitely knew that

1215
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: Kenny did not comprehend it the way that she hoped

1216
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: that he would. She said, I want to be able

1217
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: to go on say yes to going on date to

1218
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: other people. So I think what she was trying to

1219
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: say was there's no one here right now that has

1220
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: my interest, but if somebody comes down, and possibly they do,

1221
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: I want to go on the date to see if,

1222
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: like what I have with you is as good as

1223
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: I think it is so fundamentally when you break it down,

1224
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: I feel like she was saying, I need to sort

1225
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: of test this relationship to see, like if I missed you,

1226
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: which I don't know that that's a good sign. I

1227
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: would I would say that, like if you have any

1228
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: desire to test it. You can't be totally certain in it. Um. Also,

1229
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: like I'm you can be both ways. Like so many

1230
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: people are here and like they always want to date

1231
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: around and like that's what they feel like they're there

1232
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: to do. But I'm like a serial monogamous in my head,

1233
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: and once I find like the object of my affection,

1234
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: it's just like no going back, right, Like I'm just

1235
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna be super loyal to that person. Um. But I

1236
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: don't think that Kenny is in the wrong at all

1237
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: for thinking that what she meant was that, you know,

1238
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: we see other people, because that's kind of what it

1239
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: sounded like. And I think again, fundamentally, it's kind of

1240
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: what she was saying. Yeah, you know in the Demi

1241
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: Kenny situation, and it makes a lot of sense, Like

1242
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: they're very similar, I think, to get a lot of

1243
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: fun together. They He was obviously very into him it.

1244
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: You know, Mari confides in Demmi and then Demi was like,

1245
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: well cool if because are data the people I'm gonna

1246
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: out to Kenny, And that's that's just to Demmi. Is

1247
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you knew that going in. It's not

1248
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: like she's untrustworthy, but she's just like, Okay, well, what

1249
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: you're telling me and what Kenny's understanding also is that

1250
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: you're wanting to date other people. So I'm gonna go

1251
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: after Kenny because I'm attracted to him, which causes this

1252
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: love triangle to exist and a lot of confusion because

1253
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: I think, I think this is where it becomes clear

1254
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: to me. Mary talks to Kenny. Can you lose that

1255
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: conversation be going, hey, we can date other people or

1256
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: we should be dating other people, even though he's like, hey,

1257
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't really want to, but it's that you're saying this,

1258
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: then okay. And then Marie talks to Demi. Demi leaves

1259
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: that conversation with Mari going you want to date other people? Okay,

1260
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to day Kenny. So like, I think

1261
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: Mari was not communicating clearly, or here's the other thing.

1262
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: What if just possibly she doesn't want to admit that

1263
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: this all backfired because someone she saw Kenny with Demmy.

1264
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, I don't want to be dating other people,

1265
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: and now I don't know how to take it back. Yeah,

1266
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's kind of how it went. Um,

1267
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: I think she should have thought that through the whole

1268
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: thing through a little bit more. I think she was

1269
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 1: acting in the moment because she was like, oh, people

1270
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: are going on dates. Date seemed fun. Yeah, you know, um,

1271
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: and then she throws the you know, the cake and

1272
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: the fire. And then I have to say that during

1273
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: that cake in the pow wow, that like fire bonfire

1274
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: situation where Demi brings him up for the forty birthday celebration,

1275
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: I kind of was getting the sense from Kenny that

1276
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: he was kind of missing Marie. Did you did you

1277
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: pick up on that? I mean he said, like they

1278
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: were doing that question some time, and he you know,

1279
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: who would you rather be? He's like Mari and so yeah,

1280
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean I think he I mean, I think he's

1281
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: very into her. He was into her from the very beginning.

1282
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: And uh, and then Demmi brings down the cake, and

1283
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: I think he's just like, I think he's confused. I

1284
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: think he feels pulled in two directions with two women

1285
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: that he's both like into, but one of them sending

1286
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: him mixed signals. Yeah, I think that with Demi, he like, actually,

1287
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: it's like a physical thing. And then I think with

1288
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: mariy like there might be a bit more depth to

1289
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: the relationship. H yeah, we will. We will see how

1290
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: this goes on. Um, but it's definitely in a sticky

1291
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: spot now the you know. Then then we obviously go

1292
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: back to the Connor Marissa date our relationship and Connor

1293
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: asked Marrissa on a date. She kind of like doesn't

1294
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: really say yet, it doesn't really say no. It's very

1295
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: clear she's not into manymore. He pretty much says no

1296
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: with like all of her body language. Yeah, and then um,

1297
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: Juan like says hey, kind of like they stleft together

1298
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: last night, and he at that point, like, I hope

1299
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: Connor moves on. But even though it says it like

1300
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: it feels like no our Connor doesn't even exist right now,

1301
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: Like he's just not even himself. He's super her even

1302
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: though I feel like under still like somebody out there

1303
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: that could find somebody in paradise. I mean, he's not

1304
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: a lost cause yet. Yeah, no, I don't think so.

1305
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: But like, then again, who are the single women they're

1306
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: currently that will give him a rose mm hmm, yeah,

1307
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: well anybody, and he seems friendly maybe MARII maybe like

1308
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: somebody like it'll be a friendship rose. Yeah, well one

1309
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: of the couples I want to talk to you about

1310
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: is one that I know that you care deeply about

1311
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: Natasha and Brendan Um. Natasha is trying really hard and

1312
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: she's definitely putting herself out there. She's done it multiple

1313
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,919
Speaker 1: times now. I want to hear your thoughts about their kiss,

1314
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: um and just see if you felt anything in that

1315
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: moment that changed your mind that maybe Natasha should be

1316
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: also looking elsewhere. Mm hmm. Well, uh. The fact that

1317
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: they're like into the whole week, like they probably have

1318
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: been there for like close to seven days now and okay,

1319
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: maybe not even close to seven days. Maybe like they're

1320
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: on their like fifth day, um, and they haven't kissed yet,

1321
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: but like they're coupled off is a little bit strange.

1322
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't really have a change in stand since last episode.

1323
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: Like I really just think that he's like trying not

1324
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: to kiss her because he doesn't want to lead her

1325
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: on because he knows that he's going for Piper when

1326
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: Piper comes down the stairs. But they do end up kissing,

1327
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like even like a passionate makeout. It

1328
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: was it was not really even a makeout. It was

1329
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: just like a couple of kisses, but it definitely satisfied Natasha.

1330
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: You know, She's like, Okay, we're just gonna move slow,

1331
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that he made the move. And I'm

1332
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: like kind of glad he made the move. I'm I

1333
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: don't know knowing what's to come, and I actually don't

1334
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: know what's to come, but I just my sensors are

1335
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: going off. Maybe I'm not happy that it kissed her

1336
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: because maybe she is being led on. I don't know,

1337
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: but I just love Natasha. She's just deserves the world. Yeah,

1338
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: it just didn't do much for me. It felt like

1339
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: he knew he had to. Yes, you know, like I

1340
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: put this off long enough. Yeah, I put it off

1341
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: long enough if I don't do it now, like she

1342
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: was gonna know, and so you like it was like

1343
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: a peck, Like it was like, doude, what are you doing?

1344
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: Like this girl is so into you. She's beautiful. You've

1345
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: been like hanging out with her every day, like give

1346
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: her a good old smooch, like let her know you're

1347
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: into an he kind of picks her and it just

1348
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 1: feels it feels like there's nothing there for me watching

1349
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: And I wasn't obviously there in the moment, but um,

1350
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm upset with that situation because I did. I

1351
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: do hope Natasha comes out of this like just feeling

1352
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: like not like just like she was like desired, and um,

1353
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if right now she feels that way. Yeah,

1354
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: she's definitely putting herself out there and definitely trying really hard. Well, um,

1355
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: we go from there to the Scurry and Joe date.

1356
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: Something to celebrate, something to hold onto. Now that there

1357
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: is something they're actually taking away, Oh my god, this

1358
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: was such a cute date. Now, I do feel like

1359
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: they're really starting just to get to know each other

1360
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: because some of the questions that they asked each other

1361
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: on the date, I was like, oh man, how have

1362
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: they not covered this already in casual conversation just lying

1363
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: around paradise. Um, But I do feel something with them.

1364
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: I especially feel it coming from Joe, like the way

1365
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: that he smiles and looks at her. It's just he's

1366
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: feeling it and it's really adorable and I'm happy for them.

1367
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: I h I think there's a still some terminal to come.

1368
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: I do think because we know Kendall's coming. Yeah, we

1369
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: know Kendall's coming, And I don't know how he's gonna

1370
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: handle that. He did say, Hey, it's gonna be tough

1371
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: because there's never romantic connection there, but it'll be good.

1372
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: This see here, I have a feeling like no matter what,

1373
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: like that's not just ever idea, and it's gonna bring

1374
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: like we said weeks ago, like you're gonna remember the

1375
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: good times and you're gonna remember the memories that we're there.

1376
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: But if Serena's the one thing was Serena that I

1377
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: picked up on so so far is that, like her

1378
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence feels so high, and I think she'd be

1379
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: a type of person that even if Joe is struggling

1380
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: with that, like she would sit beside and be like, hey,

1381
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm here and like I know this sucks. I know

1382
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch, but like I'm still here beside you.

1383
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about it? Do you want

1384
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: to like off on a date together? You gonna walk

1385
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: the beach together? Like I think she would understand because

1386
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: she just feels like she has that maturity that wouldn't

1387
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: get it and be a great partner for him through this. Yeah, yeah,

1388
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I think one thing that she's going to

1389
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 1: find concerning is the fact that Joe and Kendall truly

1390
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: seemed to have only broken up because of location, you know,

1391
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: So I think like, if that's the only reason, you're like,

1392
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how can you not still have feelings

1393
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: for this person? Yeah? But I also wonder like if

1394
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: Joe is respecting that relationship on camera with the with

1395
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: the Kendle like saying that to Serena and then like

1396
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: at some point he'll find time to be like, hey,

1397
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: there's more to it, and I'll tell you later, but like,

1398
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: there's got you know there there had to be a

1399
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: little more to that. You don't just break out because

1400
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: you can't decide where you're gonna live. Yeah, I know,

1401
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: because I do feel like the love has to be

1402
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: stronger than the location, Like you have to love somebody

1403
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 1: more than you love the city that you live it definitely.

1404
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: So he I'm sure he'll get hopefully get some time

1405
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: to talk to her about that maybe, And he's just

1406
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: he is, he's respecting Kendall by not saying much right now,

1407
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: That's what I picked up on, and I'm okay with that.

1408
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: I get that that's not some messy Um. Well, Ashley,

1409
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: let's talk about Tammy for a second, Okay, oh yeah,

1410
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: that was firing. Tammy tells Errand at the beginning of

1411
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: the day that you know, her connection with Aaron is

1412
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: the strongest out there. Um Thomas shows up, asked her

1413
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: to go to the side and kind of mention it

1414
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: to tell you want to kiss her if she wasn't

1415
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: with Aaron, and Tammy takes you know, takes charge and

1416
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: kisses him with I mean, Aaron's gotta be stoming. We've

1417
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: seen his I don't know what anger or is just

1418
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: like his heatedness coup. He's just a steward all the time. Yeah,

1419
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: and now he's got to be just fuming because his

1420
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: his christ Nite is also kissing the girl that he

1421
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: feels like he has a strongy's relationship with. I feel

1422
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: like this is a storyline that we've got to follow,

1423
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: um coming into uspect like the Roads ceremony that was

1424
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, not done during this episode. But I think

1425
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. This is gonna be so interesting.

1426
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: I this is like sort of like a villain's got

1427
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: a vill type moment, as J J would say. I

1428
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: kind of love the villainous nous of this scene just

1429
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: because I wasn't part of it. I was just an

1430
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: observer and like Thomas is telling Tammy that she's a

1431
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: villain and he's like, we've bonding because we're both villains

1432
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: on our season, and then to see her just st

1433
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: rattle him, I was just like, this is great TV

1434
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: for us. I am so sorry for what is going

1435
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: through Aaron's heart right now, but I mean it was entertaining.

1436
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: It is. I mean that's why I watched the show, like,

1437
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what they signed up for. So yuys,

1438
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: it's entertaining, but I do think it's gonna be really

1439
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: really hard to watch at times. Um, Tammy's getting some

1440
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: attention and uh, and Aaron's gonna have to figure out

1441
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: how to deal with it. The other thing that happened

1442
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: that night was that that just Senya pretty much ended

1443
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: it with Ivan by saying he checked the boxes, but

1444
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: she felt a spark with Chris, and then she said,

1445
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: you can't really create a spark if it's not there.

1446
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: So that was sad. That's a big deal. And then

1447
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: also you know Mark pretty much ends it or Kenney

1448
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: pretty much ends it with Mari and then Marie comes

1449
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: back at him and they mean it's more confusing than ever,

1450
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: like I just don't understand what's going on there. But

1451
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: um relationships ending, new relationship with blossoming. Um. There's been

1452
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: a lot of changes so far in Paradise. A few

1453
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: have stayed steady. We still have Abigail, um and Noah,

1454
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: we have Joe and Serena. Um, who else do we have?

1455
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: That's like very solid? Those are two solid. But I

1456
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 1: would even say that Riley and Marissa are like third

1457
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: now in that row. Huh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.

1458
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't see them ending anytime sooner. Well, um, we're

1459
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: back tomorrow with another breakdown of actually in Paradise. It's uh,

1460
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: it's a crazy, crazy good episode today. Um, but it

1461
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 1: kind of just leads us into I think tomorrow's episode.

1462
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: I feel like there's still a lot of questions not answered,

1463
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: and tomorrow we're gonna get those questions. And I'm sure

1464
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more um questions coming from that episode.

1465
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And big news with this episode is Becca

1466
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: and Tia both show up and we see Kenny and

1467
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: Tia kiss. Oh my goodness, what freaking dream? Well, Oh

1468
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: my god, and Kendall she shows up too. This is

1469
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna be big A lot happening a lots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back breaking it down with you, um

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Speaker 1: and we're excited to do it. Well, Hey, everybody, it's

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Speaker 1: been a great episode, Thanks for listening. Thanks to Jesse

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Speaker 1: Palmer for joining us coming on and talking about the

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Speaker 1: Ultimate Surfer. Also, tomorrow we're gonna have Connor Brennan on

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Speaker 1: talking about Bachelor in Paradise is time there everything good

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Speaker 1: in the world. Make sure you tune for that. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be own special episode. It's gonna be a big deal. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna gets really excited for tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night's episode Paradise and we will be recapping that episode

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Speaker 1: with Emily and Amanda. Uh and uh, we'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys then. Yeah. Well, hey, I've been Ben Ashley to

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