1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Katty. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm Strong and Jakiety and he arm Strong and Jeddy. 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: You know, I've said repeatedly I don't think Kevin Newsom 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: in the end will be a presidential candidate, and that 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: was before this investigation of by federal officials into his 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: family finances. I can tell you from Californians who are 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Democrats who do not want JD. Vancer Marco Rubert to 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: be president. This is a real investigation. There may be 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: political elements to it, but there's a there there in 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: this investigation. And I think whether Missus Newsom is indicted 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: or not, that this will be another caution to the 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: family about what it would mean to their lives and 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: their young kids if they get into this race. That 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: is my prelude to telling you you need to think 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: seriously if the people who doubt Kamala Harris is going 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: to be the nominee, and if I'm right the Gavin 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Newsom ends up not running, you need to think about 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: the vacuum. 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Who's who's it going to be? Then? If It's 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: not Kammala or Gavin anyway. That's Mark Helprin from his 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: newscast yesterday afternoon, thrown around the idea of Jennifer Cebel Newsom, 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Gavin's wife, being indicted. Can you imagine what an earthquake 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: that would be that could happen any day? New York 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: poster sorry, California post version of the story. Gavin Newsom 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: solicited three hundred and forty million dollars in behested payments 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: from special interest filings reveal what's a behested payment. 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: It's essentially it's not legal. It's a I had the 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: law in front of me several months ago. Uh, you 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: asked for it. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ask for a donation. 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: A behested payment discloses, the database closes. Whenever state elected 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: officials request others to make donations on their behalf, there's. 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: No way they get busted on this. That's my initial feeling. 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: State records show Newsom has solicited more than three hundred 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: and forty million dollars. That's a lot of money in 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: donations from wealthy donors and special interests, some of which 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: have received preferential treatment, and millions of dollars in state contracts, 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: shopping while also taking pains to prop up the political 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: activity political activities of his wife Jennifer, and the numbers 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: when he was lieutenant governor were crazy, and they compare 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: this to other governors. The reason I'm cynical about anything 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: happening about this is how many politicians do I need 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: to hear about getting money and doing favors for people 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: who never get in trouble for it. It's just really, 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: really hard to bust people on this stuff. You gave 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: me a bunch of money, I gave you a contract. 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Then somebody else has to prove that I only gave 51 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you the contract because you gave me the money and 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: not because no, No, you happened to actually be the 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: best person at making railroad tracks for high speed rail, 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: so I gave you the contract. 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: I mean just knowing you happened to give a million 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: dollars to my wife's nonprofit, which has enriched her. 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: He's coming after my wife, jen You believe you published 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: the work, Yeah, sure, she is right, she is. 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: Nobody ever gets nailed for this stuff. I'm very cynical 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: about the the the whole people getting rich in government thing. 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a big war over an Indian casino, 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: and Gavy was fighting hard against it. And it turns 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: out to one of the other tribes that didn't want 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: the competition had contributed half a million dollars to his 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: wife's charity just before he rose up in opposition to 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: the thing they didn't want, and then he asked to 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: contribute another five hundred thousand dollars to his wife's charity. 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: Tribe cut those check specifically at Newsome's request, etcetera. Sira, 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: but no explicit quid pro quo. 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: All right, And one of the reasons I'm so cynical 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: is been saying for thirty years on this show, is 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: what do you think that these companies just like Gavin 73 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Newsom so much they're going to give him a million 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: dollars or five million dollars or hover much money they 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: give them. I don't expect anything return. I just like you, 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: and I'm willing to take profits from our business and 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: give them to you just because I like you. 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: All right, in your wife, man, she's doing some good work. 79 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: So John Fleischman wrote a great piece about this. He 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: tracked down a lot of the receipts which the California 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: Globe has been talking about for many, many months to 82 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: their credit. But first of all, he points out that 83 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: Jennifer Seebel Newsome is the founder of multiple nonprofits. She's 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: a public advocate who uses a position to influence public policy. 85 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: She's constantly Gavin and she are constantly saying that she 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 4: needs to be listened to, blah blah blah. She's a 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: public figure and a political actor. But now that the 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: investigation is announced, Gavy acts as if she's this little 89 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: stay at home a wife who's just raising the kids, 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: and her face is sweaty from cooking, she's doing the 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: dishes and all, and how. 92 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: Dare you go after im? A little woman? Which is 93 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: absolutely hilarious. But here's how it works. 94 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh right, then, don't you dare? Yeah? 95 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: I've learned that his campaign has reached my own home 97 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 5: to get me. He's coming after my wife, Jen a 98 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: public servant, a woman who's dedicated her life to supporting 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 5: women and girls, someone who has done nothing wrong other 100 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: than having the temerity to advocate for what she believes in. 101 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 5: If they can't intimidate me, they'll go after the mother 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: of our children. Donald Trump hit the wrong target. We 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: have nothing to hide. I have a message for you. 104 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: You can subpoena my records, you can investigate me, you 105 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 5: can harass me. Oh, my name on every and any 106 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: enemies list you have. But leave my wife and family 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: out of your personal vendetta. 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 2: All right, nobody's going after your kids, Gabby. 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: It's just your wife because she's a political actor and 110 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: has profited enormously from her proximity to you. She's also 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: responsible for thousands, thousands of confused, young adolescent girls getting 112 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: testosterone treatments that have changed their bodies forever. More on 113 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: that in the gender Bending Madness update coming later. 114 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Are we going to overlook Gavin's really weird speaking style? 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: I was going to I'm going to just go with 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: the facts. What is that? That's a great question. Well, yeah, 117 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: He sounds like, can't go after me, but don't go. 119 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: My Why Bill Shatner in the original track you Nailed 120 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: It the other day, the original Star Trek. 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: You're right, this has become a thing. And is it 122 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: mostly on the left? I think because it seems to 123 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: be more often politicians on the left to their wives 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: or husbands are really really active also, and then when 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: you go after them and so oh, how you you 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: going after my spouse? Look, I'm fair game, but my spouse, 127 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: the spouse just gave a speech somewhere and raised a 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: bunch of money. 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, So this piece I was referencing makes reference 130 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: to the fact that Newsom's former chief of staff pleaded 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: guilty to multiple felonies recently about passing confidential state information 132 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: to clients and influence pedaling and that sort of thing. 133 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: But here's here's how it works. 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: And I wish I could figure out how to do 135 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: this for myself, but nobody's contributing money to me that 136 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: I don't earn. To my eternal regret, Reporting is highlighted 137 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: payments her One of her nonprofits is the Representation Project, 138 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: that is the gender bending pervert movement to convince confused 139 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: young kids and gay kids that they need surgeries and 140 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: powerful chemicals to correct their bodies to their true selves 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: instead of just letting them be. But anyway, Reporting has 142 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: highlighted payments from the Representation Project to Girls Club Entertainment, 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: which is a film production company that Cibel Newsom also owns. 144 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: So her one nonprofit paid her other nonprofit over one 145 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty one thousand dollars in twenty twenty four, loan, 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: hey look. 147 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: At us like idiots, don't they? They can't believe the 148 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: rest of us like go out and just work regular 149 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: jobs and get regular paychecks checks, don't understand how the. 150 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: World really works. 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: She was also paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 152 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: salary from the Representation Project, a nonprofit she controls, paid 153 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: six figures to a company she controls, while also paying 154 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: her six figures in salaries. Governor Newsom has also reported 155 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: so listening millions of dollars in behested payments donations made 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: to favored charities at a politician's personal solicitation directed to 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: the California Partners Project since twenty twenty. That reporting includes 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: one point eight million dollars from a Native American tribe 159 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: holding a state casino agreement. So that's the way the 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: money flows in out of an across of her various nonprofits, 161 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: and then salaries and travel and the rest of it. 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: So the total for Newsome on these behested payments, you're 163 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: asking for money three hundred and forty million dollars. His predecessor, 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Brown, his total number over eight years was thirty 165 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: five million. So Gavin's three hundred and forty million Jerry 166 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: Brown's thirty five million, So Gavin has ten times nearly 167 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the amount of behested payments. And most amazingly of it 168 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: all is the bulk of it. Sixty five percent of 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: it comes in one year. In twenty twenty, at the 170 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: height of the pandemic, Gavin Newsom asked various people for 171 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: two one hundred and twenty six million dollars in behested 172 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: payments in one year, which is amazing. I'll give you 173 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: a fri instance of the busiest stretch that came during 174 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: the heart of the pandemic. Blue Shield gave twenty million 175 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: dollars in September of twenty twenty. Months later, during the pandemic, 176 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Newsom awarded Blue Shield a fifteen million dollar no bid 177 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: contract to help distribute California's vaccines. There you go, That's 178 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: the way the world works, Ladies and gentlemen. 179 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: Quid pro quo, and the first partner, Jennifer Siebel Nuisance, 180 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 4: profited mightily from all of it and used again. If 181 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: she was using that money to like save children from 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: sex trafficking like Tim Tebow, or you know, doing something 183 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 4: righteous with it, it would still be corrupt, but she's 184 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: using it to promote transgenderism to small children. 185 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Good god, do. 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: You think it's enough to scare them off a running 187 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: like Mark Alpern thinks, where they'll think, why would we 188 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: do this? Let's just live our real were young people. 189 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: Let's live our amazing rich pace people. 190 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: Lives in obscurity, buy and sell restaurants and wineries in 191 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: Napa Valley. And you know inherit tons and tons of 192 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: family money from the pelosis and the getties and the 193 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: rest of it, don't I don't know. 194 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: It's about a coin flip. From where I sit. 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: He can sniff the Oval office, which is an afrodisiac 196 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: unlike any known man, according to anybody who's come close 197 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: to winning the office. 198 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: It's not like he's a I don't know who would 199 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: be a good example, somebody that conceivably could be president, 200 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: but probably not. He he's got a really really good 201 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: shot of being the nominee and being president. 202 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's seen the gold nuggets in the stream, and 203 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: he has serious gold fever. 204 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, we'll say. 205 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: When we see her and her in cuffs, shuffling along 206 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: in the orange jumpsuit and the white tube socks headed 207 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: into a prison. 208 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: So casting a longing look over her shoulder at handsome Gavey, 209 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: is he's shuffling off to that men's Penitentially. 210 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Don't go after my wife, a public servant, mother of 211 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: my children. 212 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: California, The Final Frontier Session, The Voyages of the Corrupt 213 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: Ship Gavin Prize. 214 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: We have a Supreme Court decision that has come down. 215 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: How big a deal is it? Well, Joe almost went 216 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: to law school, so he'll break down for us. Among 217 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: other things coming up. 218 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 6: A painting that a woman purchased at a thrift store 219 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: for one hundred dollars sold this month at auction for 220 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 6: over a quarter million dollars. It turns out the frame 221 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: was just stuffed with cocaine. 222 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, but the whole art thing. 223 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: You're a person who buys art, You're you're one of 224 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: those kind of people. But I would like to just 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: when I see the price on stuff, I just I 226 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: just I know how incredibly random it is in terms 227 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: of pricing it. I mean, just. 228 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 229 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: My sweet spot is very very talented, completely unknown artists 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: because their stuff is very inexpensive compared to and there 231 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: are multiple art galleries around where I live, and there's 232 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: one that specializes in like nationally known artists, And you're right, 233 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: that's like car buying money. 234 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: And so random. I can't even imagine what their decision 235 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: process is when they decide to price somethings. I mean, 236 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: once you sell something, then at least you've got a 237 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: number PEG you could kind of go from there. But 238 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: until you sell something at that level, I don't know. 239 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: I suppose that's how you end up with a deal 240 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: like what you just heard in that joke. Somebody probably 241 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: bought that painting really dang cheap. They liked it. You know, 242 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: you're at a knickknack store and it's a couple hundred 243 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: bucks and that and that artist went on to become something. 244 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: The person who bought it originally didn't know that, and 245 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: then that worked that way. But I don't trust I 246 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: don't care about making money or anything like that. I 247 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: just don't trust my own judgment. I wouldn't mind having 248 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: a he's of art that's, you know, worth a certain 249 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: amount of money, and you know, my kids could get 250 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: that back someday or whatever if I really like it. 251 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: But I just don't want to get ripped off because 252 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: you jump an eight year old could have done that. 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't know. 254 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: Buy it if you like looking at it, that's that's 255 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: the idea. You know. 256 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: You don't have to look at it as an investment 257 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: at all. You just think it's pretty or moving or interesting, 258 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: or you like to study it and it makes you happy. 259 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't even have to. So I've walked into somebody 260 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: like San Francisco downtown. San Francisco's got a ton of 261 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: those stores that sell that art, and here there's lots 262 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: of tours. There is that stuff like way overpriced. It's 263 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: got to be right. I a beholder. 264 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: The price is what someone will give for it. And 265 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: that's the difficulty of art. It's not like you know, 266 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: a gallon of gasoline. I can tell you what I'm 267 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: going to get out of that, and I can tell 268 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: you what it's worth, and if you don't offer it 269 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: to me at the right price, I'll go elsewhere. 270 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: A unique piece of art. 271 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Who's to say, right? 272 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 273 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: So I want to get to the Supreme Court decisions 274 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: real quick while we have a couple of minutes left. 275 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: Three of them out today. 276 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: First of all, Us versus Haimani that was a case 277 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: nine oh decision, or they said, no, you can't take 278 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: away a dude's Second Amendment rights because you find out 279 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: he smokes pot a few times a week. It's not 280 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: enough of the tradition, in enough in the tradition, enough 281 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: of the control of firearms in American history. You can't 282 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: make the argument that that's okay if the guy's not 283 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: intoxicated while he's brandishing the gun, and it's got nothing 284 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: to do with his rights. 285 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: But did this overturns the way we used to do it. 286 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: We used to take away your right to own a 287 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: gun if you got caught smoking pot. Well, that's crazy 288 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that that if you. 289 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Used any controlled substance. 290 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: I've seen people relating to this on Twitter around the 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: whole Hunter Biden thing because it came up a lot 292 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: with under Biden and his gun charges. You can't take 293 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: away my free What other rights can you take? This 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: is the question I always ask, What other rights do 295 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: you get to take away from me because I smoked pot? 296 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: My free speech, my right to assemble my dat Now 297 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the quarter troops of my house because I smoked pot down? 298 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: Then right, I'm sorry, You've got to house this unit 299 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: of eight guys, because you smoke product. Wait what another case? 300 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: This was an eight to one or an agreement not 301 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: to appeal a sentence in a plea deal is unenforceable 302 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: if it would result in a miscarriage of justice. So yeah, 303 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: you can't strong arm somebody into agreeing never to appeal 304 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: a case. 305 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: Which is good. 306 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: That's a good, good decision that was eight to one, 307 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: and then in this five to four to one. It 308 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: is so confusing. It's given me a headache. And I 309 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: don't want to give you a headache. Has to do 310 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: with court jurisdictions, and I will spare you the details. 311 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't need to know that. 312 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: Now it's again, it's confused me. It's disturbinate to my core. 313 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: Seattle is crumbling. Unfortunately, we'll have a Seattle update. 314 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: Coming up next and. 315 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: A lot of other stuff that we'll get to it. And 316 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: if you miss a segment of the podcast Armstrong and 317 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Getty Undemanded, it's going to be. 318 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: Fantastic Armstrong and Getty as. 319 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: We speak, as we are doing this radio show, which 320 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know when you're going to hear it, but 321 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: jd Vance is taking questions standing up at the Ponium 322 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: in the White House press room, and it is by 323 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: far the most thorough explanation from the administration thus far 324 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: of what this deal is, why they think it will work, 325 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: all the details from every angle, by far, because Trump, 326 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: you know how Trump talks in the way he is, 327 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: and he can't quite understand. I mean, JD's laying it 328 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: out very methodically, and then people are drilling down and 329 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: he's answering the questions. So I'm trying not to have 330 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: an need your negative reaction to it, just because everything 331 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: that's come out over the last couple of days seems 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: so ridiculous to me. But like, for instance, he was 333 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: just saying a few minutes ago on the whole Iran 334 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: gets rockets thing and everything like that. Look, we're not 335 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: going to tell any country they're not allowed to defend themselves, 336 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: whether it's Israel or Iran. And I just think, well, 337 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: one's a good guy and one's a bad guy. Why 338 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: you treat them the same way. I just don't understand that. 339 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: But we'll get into that and now or for Yeah, 340 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: anytime somebody engages in moral relativism, be careful. So yeah, 341 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: looking forward to that. We will still down JD's statement 342 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: and this Q and A to great highlights for you 343 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: so you can understand the administration's point of view and 344 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: draw your own conclusions. One of the few advantages of 345 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: aging is that you get to witness things that unfold 346 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: over a significant chunk of time, including the utter decay 347 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: of the West Coast's great cities, in particular from Seattle 348 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: to Portland to San Francisco and Sacremento in La and 349 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: San Diego. 350 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: It's just utterly tragic. 351 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: They have fallen apart and rotted and become diseased under 352 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: Democratic party control. And we frequently spotlight one or the 353 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: other in a little feature in this case called Seattle 354 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: is Crumbling? 355 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Love It? 356 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 357 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, our old Gattle guy hadn't done a Seattle one, 358 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 4: so he hired a new hair metal guy. 359 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the dude from a warrant we hired to 360 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: sing that he was willing to work for five bucks. 361 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: He did that. 362 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 4: Weighs three hundred and twenty five pounds. Now still get 363 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: it like the blonde hair. 364 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: Though there might have been the guy from Winger who 365 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: would know the difference. 366 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 367 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: So a new report from the Downtown Seattle Association says 368 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: that Seattle lost thousands of jobs and significant property value 369 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: in the years since it implemented the jump start payroll 370 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 4: tax in twenty twenty that was hammering companies for daring 371 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: to hire people and taxing them for it. The report 372 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: compares Seattle status with its neighboring city, Bellevue, a lovely 373 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: place which has no comparable payroll tax of social housing tax, 374 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: and found that while Seattle's workforce and property values have shrunk, 375 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: values Bellevues rather have remained resilient. Since twenty twenty, what 376 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: we've seen in downtown Seattle is not a jumpstart, but 377 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: a slow down. Since being implemented, Downtown Seattle's lost around 378 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 4: thirty thousand jobs, the office vacancy rate increased to thirty 379 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: two percent of the downtown core, and more than ten 380 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: billion dollars in office value have been lost. Meanwhile, look 381 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: right over there. 382 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: That's Bellevue. 383 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: You can see it. 384 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: Dating back to twenty twenty, the city has seen more 385 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: jobs come to his core, lower office vacancy, in the 386 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: stability of office building values. 387 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: This provides a stark tale. 388 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: Of two cities and two tax environments just miles apart. 389 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 4: The child mayor of Seattle, Katie Wilson, who is still 390 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: on her mommy and daddy's payroll and is a socialist 391 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: and a child in so many ways. 392 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: It's amazing how many socialists live off their parents or 393 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: a trust or borrow from friends and never pay them 394 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: back or whatever. Yes, including Karl Marx himself, by the way, 395 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: if you've never looked into his biography, although this was 396 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: our knock on fetterman and he turned out to be, 397 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, pretty damned reasonable in the sense after his 398 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: stroke you think that was the difference. Uh. 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: I don't know why or how, but it was a 400 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: rather stark pivot point. And I don't know whether it 401 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: was an emotional reaction to I'm not going to engage 402 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: in stupid politics anymore. I almost died I'm going to 403 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: tell the truth. Or if it caused a fundamental change 404 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: in his brain, wow, because that sort of thing can 405 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: change your temperament and your personality. Anyway, back to woman 406 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: child Katie Wilson. So the US is playing the Socker Ruse, 407 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: the Australian football team tomorrow in the World Cup. 408 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: Can't wait to watch that? 409 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: Got the US Open Golf Championship going on this weekend too, 410 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: and Father's Day anyway, Oh so Seattle, and I love this. 411 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 4: I love this characterization. Seattle cleaned itself up to host 412 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: the World Cup the way a child cleans his room 413 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: before his parents come upstairs, by shoving the dirty laundry 414 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: under the bed and stuffing everything else into the closet. 415 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 4: Socialist mayor Katie Wilson heard it thousands of drug addicts 416 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: away from the neighborhood around the Big Football Stadium near 417 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: downtown hotels, then bragged that Seattle is the readA for 418 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: the massive influx of international visitors. But walk a couple 419 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: of blocks away and the truth crowds the sidewalk, hunched 420 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: over and smoking fentanyl. And this week this writer whose 421 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: name credits were credit where it is due. Oh, for 422 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: God's sake, pop ups, Ariy Hoffman, nice writing airy back 423 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: to the article, There we go. This week our joined 424 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: at Jonathan Choe, Senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, not 425 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: Andrea Suarez, founder of homeless outreach group. 426 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: We heart Seattle for what we call the doom Loop 427 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: tour through parts. 428 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: Of Seattle that officials hope World Cup visitors never see. 429 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 4: At twelfth in Jackson in the Chinatown International District that 430 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: overlooks the stadium. I mean it's literally a couple of 431 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 4: blocks away. Hundreds of people, hundreds clustered on corners to 432 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: openly smoke fentanyl and staggered through the streets like a 433 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 4: horde from the Walking Dead. Drug deals going down in 434 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: Plane View. Minority owned businesses, especially in the district's Asian 435 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: part shopkeepers that have been abandoned by the city for years, 436 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 4: were left to fend for themselves. Many had had to 437 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: board up their storefront windows. One had to intervene. This 438 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 4: is while they were there to stop a drugged out 439 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: vagrant from breaking into his car while he watched. A 440 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: pair of people we took to be charity workers distributed 441 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: food to the addicts. Then when we tried to speak 442 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: with them, the reality became clear. They weren't charity workers. 443 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: They were drug dealers trying to draw in customers for 444 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: their illegal drug sales. Oh wow, hey, come on over here, 445 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: I got a hot dog for you. 446 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: You need some fentanyl. 447 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: We spoke with a dazed looking girl who looked no 448 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: older than fifteen, wearing a loose fitting, brawn torn unbuttoned jeans. 449 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: In one hand, she held a straw and the other 450 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 4: fentanyl foil now Suarez, the person I mentioned who personally 451 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 4: interacts with homeless people and tries to get them into 452 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: housing and treatment without the city's help, told me she 453 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: believed the girl was a victim of trafficking, but the 454 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 4: teenager declined her offer of assistance, accepted a hug, and 455 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: so they tried. 456 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: I know, it's so sad, the whole drug thing. So 458 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: there is some famous actress I didn't know. She's a 459 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: child star of the eighties or nineties who died recently. 460 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Did you follow that story? And she's on one of 461 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: those Who's the Bell or your dad's name is Charlie 462 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: or whatever? TV? 463 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: And she died hilariously perfect, Yeah. 464 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: She died, and they had, you know, pictures of her 465 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: as a child star, and then pictures of her recently 466 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: when she is found on the streets of the way 467 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: and just you know, skeletal and had gotten into the 468 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: hardcore drugs. And I was just thinking about how there's 469 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: almost no rescuing these people, and I don't know what 470 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: we do as Society'd almost have to put them on 471 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: an island or lock them in a camp or something, 472 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: because their brains are ruined. They cannot support themselves any longer. 473 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: If you don't have them in like a jail like setting, 474 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna run out and do more drugs and steal stuff. 475 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: Right. 476 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the answer is for people 477 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: that are that far down the road at this point, 478 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: you know. 479 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: I want to get back to that point in just 480 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 4: a second. Let me finish up to Seattle stuff. Then 481 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: we'll approach that more generally. So after encountering this poor young, 482 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: underaged girl who is probably you know, some junkie, some 483 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 4: maybe a pimp's rape slave. Maybe she just turns tricks 484 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: to support her drug habit. She's completely lost her soul 485 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: as a teenager, then we attempted to walk through Lewis Park. 486 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: I walked through Lewis Park, a natural area with a 487 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: hiking trail that's become a no go zone. In the twilight, 488 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: we can make out the flicker of dozens of lighters 489 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 4: burning fentanyl along the path. Suarez, remember that's the activist 490 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: Gal called out to see if anyone needed services. Addicts 491 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: pelted her and Chloe with expletives and half eaten pines 492 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: of Ben and Jerry's ice cream ice cream. In response, 493 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: a few of those wandering nearby warned us not to 494 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: go further in saying it was too dangerous. Honduran drug 495 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: gangs are controlling the park. By abandoning the addicts and 496 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 4: the homeless of the gangs, the city is feeding an 497 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: ecosystem of exploitation and violence. Outside the park, we came 498 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: across a mostly naked, emaciated body on the ground. 499 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: Couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman. 500 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: We immediately called nine one one and they came to 501 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: retrieved the dead body. We can see the lights of 502 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: Lumenfield where hundreds of thousands of soccer fans will be 503 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 4: flocking in coming weeks. 504 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I used to know all those areas too, back before 505 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I had kids. I used to go to Seattle regularly 506 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: in Pioneer Square and listen to bands and walk around 507 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: and drink and all that sort of stuff. And I 508 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: had a good time, and I didn't realize that some 509 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: of these areas are no go zones now for regular people. 510 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 511 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: For more than a decade, Seattle has followed the housing 512 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: first model, which treats housing as the primary response to 513 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: homelessness without demanding treatment, mental health care, or accountability. It 514 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: also it absolutely misplaces what it is it's not a 515 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: homelessness problem. 516 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: The animating detail. 517 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: The most important thing about their lives is not that 518 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: they lack a permanent address. 519 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: It's that they're a hardcore, hard. 520 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: Drug addict, which you've said a thousand times back to 521 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: your point, which is absolutely true. I quoted Sam Kinyonis 522 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: the other day about don't dismiss Spencer Pratt's candidacy because 523 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 4: it opened a lot of people's eyes, and it made 524 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: it excuse me no longer taboo to talk about what 525 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 4: we were just saying that it's a drug problem, not 526 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: an address problem. And Sam wrote a blockbuster piece for 527 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: The Free Press in which he talks about the two 528 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: synthetic drugs made in Mexico, the super Meth as it's 529 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: being called or the New Myth, which started in like 530 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: twenty twelve or twenty fourteen to be distributed on the streets, 531 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: and fentanyl in twenty eighteen. Both are present nationwide, but 532 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: it's hyper pure coming out of Mexico, and it quickly 533 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: drove the users to symptoms of psychosis and this homelessness, 534 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: and then they get on the fentanyl and they die. 535 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: And the idea that everybody was mentally ill and that's 536 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: why they're on the street is wrong. Now, those who 537 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: are we ought to be more aggressively helping them, whether 538 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 4: they want it or not. But the fact that the 539 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: powers that be don't ever admit the drugs are destroying 540 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: people's minds and making them unsalvageable zombies is just proof 541 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 4: that it's just the government responsible. A lot of this 542 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: is a pipeline to hand out taxpayer money to their cronies, 543 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: the homeless industrial complex. 544 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: And what's especially cruel about this. 545 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: And horrifying is these people claim to be compassionate, but 546 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: they're the opposite. They're draining taxpayer money while acting compassionate 547 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: and condemning these people to death. And as Sam puts it, 548 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: where is it for it's been taboo to discuss these drugs, 549 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: the mental illness they cause, and their connection to the homelessness. 550 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: Dissent was silenced and shame should not be heresy to 551 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: suggest that those on the streets are often drug addicted 552 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: and mentally ill, and essentially that the only the only 553 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: solution is to attack the drug thing. But he makes 554 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 4: a really eloquent statement, I'm trying to find it about 555 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: how it's a slow motion death row that we're running, 556 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: letting these people fry their brains on the meth, then 557 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: killing them with the fentanyl. It's the absolute opposite of compassion. 558 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: I wish I could find it. I will find it. 559 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: But I like this characterization of it as a slow 560 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: motion death row, because. 561 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Well, I wish I was a better person and worried 562 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: more about the compassion angle of it. I'm always worried 563 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: about the legal, law abiding, tax paying citizen and their 564 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: role in this whole story. It'd be one thing if 565 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: it was a death row or whatever, and they weren't 566 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: stealing your kid's bike or breaking into your car or 567 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: threatening you as you walk down the street. But it's not. 568 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: All those things are included. If we're a fenced off 569 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: area where they want to dine in their own knock 570 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: yourself out, do what you want. It's your life. But 571 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: that's not the way it works. You're stealing from the 572 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: rest of us, ruining parts of the city where people can't, 573 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, run their businesses right, draining the taxpayer. 574 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: One correct. 575 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 4: Both ends of it are correct, and both of it 576 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: point in the same direction. Outlaw hard drugs, bust the dealers, 577 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: enforce the law. Always what we do with the thousands 578 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: and thousands of people these permissive policies have allowed to 579 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: become seriously, irrevocably mentally ill because of the myth. 580 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's a shame, but Seattle is crumbling, 581 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: is crumbled. 582 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that in because he's got to 583 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: get back to work at the Starbucks. Right, lead singer 584 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: of winger jd Vance explaining them ou Right now, we'll 585 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: have some of the highlights form that in our four 586 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: lots of stuff coming upstair here put the follow up 587 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: to the discussion of all the street people in Seattle 588 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: and all that different sort of stuff we were talking about. 589 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: And what do you do with the drug addicts that 590 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: have ruined their brains? 591 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: And I don't rattle in a thousand small, large and 592 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: medium sized hands all over it. 593 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of places around the West coast certainly 594 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: are around the country. But I honestly don't know you 595 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: what you do with these people. I don't know if 596 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: they can quit. A lot of them don't want to quit. 597 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: And then even if they did quit, their brains don't 598 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: work in their unhirable what do you do with them 599 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: as a society? Right? 600 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: I found one of the things I wanted to share. 601 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: From Sam Quinyona's piece, he says outreach workers on the 602 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: street offer beds, services and treatment to people living intents 603 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: among feces and disease, raped and beaten, yet who routinely 604 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: refuse those services. Workers conclude these folks are not ready 605 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 4: for treatment. But this is a reaction from another era 606 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: when heroin dominating in the streets and people could survive 607 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: on it for years, even decades. It ignores another change 608 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: fentanyl and meth have created. People on the streets will 609 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: never be ready for treatment in the time it takes 610 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: for meth to drive them mad and for fentanyl to 611 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: kill them. 612 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 613 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: Powerful stuff. I want to squeeze that in. But we 614 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 4: don't want to be complete Debbie Downers. Speaking of which, 615 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: Rachel Dratch, who played that hilarious character on Saturday Night Live, 616 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: is killing it on Broadway right now in a revival 617 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. And she did the 618 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: commencement address at Dartmouth the other day and reprised her 619 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: fabulous character. 620 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 7: It's quite an achievement graduating from Dartmouth. Of course, thanks 621 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 7: to AI, there won't be any jobs left, so congrats 622 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: to all on your mandatory gap years. It's inspired to 623 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 7: see all your fresh minds ready to take on the world. Sadly, 624 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 7: due to the construction of data centers and the impending 625 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 7: water wars, the most useful college majors now are foraging 626 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 7: and hand to hand combat. 627 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. AI may take. 628 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 7: All our jobs and clean drinking water, but at least 629 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 7: we can all see what we'd look like as leather 630 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 7: Daddy Santa. 631 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 4: Wow, that was funny, although that whole water thing is 632 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: so a cunard. 633 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, that was an interesting way to approach it. 634 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: First of all, do college kids know what a famous 635 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Saturday Night live bit was from twenty years before they 636 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: were born? 637 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Or wasn't that long ago? 638 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: Hu? 639 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time ago. Yeah. Any who. 640 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: Uh. Interesting way to attack the whole AI thing in 641 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: front of the college crowd is to make it like, yeah, 642 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: it does suck, and let's make a joke about it, 643 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to pitch it. It's kind of 644 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: a positive artificial intelligence is coming in. 645 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: The crowd boosts boo, No, listen to me, it's gonna 646 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: be great. 647 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: You suck. 648 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, people joke about what they fear. It's a way 649 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: to come into terms with it. I think that's perfectly fine. 650 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 651 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 4: I mean there's something about humor that changes a fear 652 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: into a I can deal with this. I'll find a way. 653 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Just changes your brain chemistry. 654 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So jd vance with the best best 655 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: explanation yet of their theory of the case around the 656 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: deal with Iran to end the war, and we'll have 657 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: that for you an hour four. This is all brand 658 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: new stuff you haven't heard. If you don't get it, 659 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 660 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: Subscribe Armstrong and Getty