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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellancamps at Tamra Edge. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy

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Speaker 1: Mellancamp camera judge. We have on this week Leah McSweeney

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Speaker 1: from Real Housewives of New York. She's having a new

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Speaker 1: book coming out called Chaos Theory, Finding Meaning in the

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Speaker 1: Madness One bad decision at a time. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a mustry, that sounds like my life. So we're excited

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Speaker 1: to have her on, ask all the questions. She also

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Speaker 1: has an incredible clothing company called Married to the Mob.

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Speaker 1: All types of things, but uh yeah, let's get her

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Speaker 1: on and start grilling. Oh my god, you guys are together.

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Speaker 1: We are. We are together in in Orange County, at

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Speaker 1: Teddy's house in Dana Point right on the ocean. M

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Speaker 1: the same exact color blonde. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a lighting. It's a lighting. We have the biggest, brightest

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Speaker 1: light on our faces right now. I'm still bruised from

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Speaker 1: my facelift, my necklift, so it's like I'm talking like this, Hi,

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Speaker 1: you look great. I'm like, I want it so bad.

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Speaker 1: Where are you? I'm in the city, I'm in New York,

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Speaker 1: at your house, in my house, how's life? How's everything is? Too?

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Speaker 1: Drinking my green juice. I'm just I'm taking a mental

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Speaker 1: health day. I'm just like taking it easy today. This

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Speaker 1: is our mental health day, A green juice in a champagne.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't drink, but this is we on

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Speaker 1: on Thursdays. We drink. We have to. We do like

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Speaker 1: multiple podcasts on Thursday. So we don't have to you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to break that wound from being fired

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Speaker 1: Housewives repeatedly. We can simply do it on Thursdays. A

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Speaker 1: fact of being fired and feeling embarrassed about talking about

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Speaker 1: a show you're no longer on you No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's honestly interesting that you guys, I mean I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know you knew each other. So the fact that

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Speaker 1: you guys did this, are doing this podcast and are

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Speaker 1: becoming so successful at it so cool. We only met

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Speaker 1: like five times and then they we had like a

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Speaker 1: good connection, good connections like work out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: our husband's are both named ed, Like there was just

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Speaker 1: so much similarity. She's got a house like fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: from me in Orange County. We met at church in

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Speaker 1: Orange County of all places. Yeah, don't really really suiting.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, we get together to talk show

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Speaker 1: and housewife. This is actually like a divine work that

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Speaker 1: you're doing. That Jesus kind of have it rolling, right, Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Jesus took the wheel talking podcast brought us together. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because but the first person they pitched was actually to

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Speaker 1: be my co host was Tinsley your friend and I

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Speaker 1: don't know her very well. I was like, she was,

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Speaker 1: She's really nice. I'm like, I need someone really outspoken,

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Speaker 1: like I need someone that has a touch of crazy

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Speaker 1: or okay, the truth is coming out now. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I just need it. I can't image in

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Speaker 1: wanting to do I don't think she would want to

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Speaker 1: do it. But that was there, like they like, we

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Speaker 1: think that Teddy and Tensley it has a nice ring

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Speaker 1: to it. And I was like, I think Teddy and Tamara.

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Speaker 1: Teddy and Tamara doesn't have a nice ring to it.

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Speaker 1: They packed me on Tenley. I came back and said, you, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can ye. She doesn't have like low voice sating

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Speaker 1: of yelling. We have to ask Lea about something, okay.

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Speaker 1: Leah Teddy claims and she claims it's about every guest.

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Speaker 1: We have, not every guest, every guest from the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: You said something about her on social media that wasn't

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Speaker 1: very flattering, and she was so ready to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about it. But now I can't find it. What

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Speaker 1: it was. I can't remember what it was. And then

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Speaker 1: I even asked the person that helps me run my

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Speaker 1: social media, I'm like, what did Leah say? I wanted

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Speaker 1: to come in hot and I cannot because I don't

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Speaker 1: have Twitter. No, it was on your ends to story.

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Speaker 1: It was something about like if I wanted to watch Housewives,

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn it, I can't find it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we did that too. She did, I would,

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Speaker 1: I would, I never like, I would never like. I

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Speaker 1: don't start ship with other housewives from other franchises, only

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Speaker 1: my own. So then we came to a conclusion that

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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't you, because somebody sent me a message

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Speaker 1: that said I run Leah's fan account, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was me. Oh well, now the truth comes out.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a fan account. I don't know

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Speaker 1: you have a fan Twitter account? And somebody runs it.

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Speaker 1: They sent me a d M. They're like, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: You thought it was Leah talking about you. Was actually yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like Leah McSweeney but like spell drawer, who

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. But well, here we go. We got

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Speaker 1: to the bottom. We got to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's hilarious either way. So tell us about your book.

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Speaker 1: What you said, I'm so sick of talking about a bit,

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to get to way trash your Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the book is a memoir, but it's very self reflective. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a little prescriptive, but not really because I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm anyone who should be telling anyone like

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Speaker 1: how to live their lives. Um. But you know, it

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Speaker 1: talks a lot about mental health, addiction, motherhood. I get into,

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Speaker 1: like some of my opinions on feminism and cancel culture,

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Speaker 1: and like I do that too. So it's just it's

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Speaker 1: a good book. It's a good read. People like it.

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Speaker 1: It's an easy read. If you're going on vacation soon

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Speaker 1: or whatever, by it for the summer. Is it already?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing a book tour? You're gonna come to

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Speaker 1: Orange County? I did it. I was in l a

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Speaker 1: thanks for reaching out. I mean in the way I

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Speaker 1: invited us to her show. Louanne reached out, Louie, but

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Speaker 1: you're not. But now you're not even going I'm going

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Speaker 1: to the cabaret. How was it? I was saying this yesterday?

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Speaker 1: So good if I had like one percent of Luanne's

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Speaker 1: self confidence when this woman like like we know that,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not like she's got a voice from heaven, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a voice of an angel

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Speaker 1: exactly rhymes Oh my god, Brandy's gonna kill you, Brandy Lesliann.

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Speaker 1: Someone told me I looked like Leanne rhymes, but you

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Speaker 1: of Leanne rhymes. Ish, Okay, got it? I mean I

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Speaker 1: have kind of also, But like so um Luanne, when

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Speaker 1: does that, you know what, She makes so many people happy.

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Speaker 1: Like when I was at her show, I was like

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Speaker 1: mean they're like crazy, like it's really it's a really

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Speaker 1: great experience. Now if I tried that they are be

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Speaker 1: booed off stage, sit down your more on. I show

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Speaker 1: my hands in an ends to to story and I'm attacked,

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Speaker 1: like I can't even imagine. Oh my god, isn't what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? I talked with my hands like always,

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Speaker 1: people harassing Tile about her hands, they were like going

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Speaker 1: hands or something. Well, I I do not have pretty hands.

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Speaker 1: I've had old hands since I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember my girlfriend in high school going why

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Speaker 1: would like to see your hands, and my hands are

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Speaker 1: pretty nice all you have long, nice finger. You know

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Speaker 1: who has beautiful hands? Vicky Gana the most beautiful hands.

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Speaker 1: I'm always so jealous of them. Whatever, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: I have other great things you do. It's like a

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Speaker 1: everyone this story about Tamra, that what this woman did

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Speaker 1: to me. She try to make out with you, no

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Speaker 1: I wish. So she starts sending me her CBD, which

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Speaker 1: Tamara takes kids. Don't know. I didn't. I said I

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Speaker 1: want to try if a CBD with a code twats you?

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Speaker 1: the beginning? How did you get cast or, if Ema

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Speaker 1: get casted? I got past it because so Bethnie Frankel

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Speaker 1: I think she was. She probably liked it. They were

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Speaker 1: this whole life like before I like got on the

423
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: show that like almost disappeared in a way because I

424
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: didn't have time for anything exactly. Andy said, and you know,

425
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: not to bring up something crappy, but I have to um.

426
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Andy said, your turnaround from being the most loved to

427
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: one of the most hated and one season was incredible,

428
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: something he had never seen. What do you think it was?

429
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know what I did.

430
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: And also like, don't it's not necessarily a bad thing though,

431
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: I mean, like, and he always says, like they can

432
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: love to hate you, but when they hate to hate you,

433
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: that's when you're done. Like if they're talking about you

434
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: and they have an opinion about you, like this housepice

435
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: out there that people have zero opinion about, and I'm like,

436
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: why are they on the show? Nobody gets a ship

437
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: if they have a strong opinion about you, that's not horrible.

438
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: I have like a theory that like people. We're so

439
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: upset about the show last season because it wasn't like

440
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: fun and light and like whatever escapism that they wanted,

441
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: and they pinned it on me. Why I have no idea,

442
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: um because I wanted to have fun but I couldn't

443
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: because we were talking about very serious things that were

444
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: not that were not my ideas to talk about. But

445
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: if we're talking about them, I'm going to act accordingly.

446
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: And if we're talking about racism, I'm not going to

447
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: get up and get naked and frotiqui torches. I'm just

448
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: not doing It's not that it's not the time. It's

449
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: a horrible time to fill them across the board for

450
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: every show out there, every show, And I think, me,

451
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: it was a horrible time to live, like is fucked up,

452
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Like it's like my birthday is coming up, like I

453
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: don't even want I don't feel like celebrating, Like I

454
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: just don't like we're not there like yet, like you know.

455
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's just I think, I think, like maybe I

456
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: seemed drastically different from one season to the next. For me,

457
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: I was still me. But I'm just I'm behaving a

458
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: certain way in a certain environment that's much different than

459
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: the environment the season before, and I wouldn't have done

460
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: anything different. The only thing I wish is that I

461
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: wish that they had showed more because when I was

462
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: grieving my grandmother, which I didn't even really get to

463
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: do because I was working. Um, I went from like

464
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: being angry and then sad, angry sad, angry sad, and

465
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: they only showed me being angry. They didn't show my sadness,

466
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: so then it just looked like I was an angry bitch.

467
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: I've had many seasons like that, not great Grandmother, but

468
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: just they like, if you're going through a bad time

469
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: in your life, and as I say, like you could

470
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: have one good season, one bad season, one, you can

471
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: have one good episode. We that's we always say you're

472
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: only as good as last week's episode because you have

473
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna turn exactly some wrong thing. And

474
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: then they're not going to show and people say, is

475
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: the show fake? Is it scripted? And I say no,

476
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: but they can edit you by only showing a certain

477
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: part of you, and if we only see a certain

478
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: part of you, it may not be your most likable part. Yeah.

479
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: Also it's like I really don't like I mean, I

480
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: had like Rihanna comes to my defense. I know I

481
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you that, Like don't I'm like, oh great,

482
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: like all these like like lame like psychos like on

483
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: my Instagram or like you're the worst. I'm like Rihanna

484
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: likes me, so I know it really doesn't matter. How

485
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: did you find out about the New York News that

486
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: they were going to go in a different direction? Um?

487
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I got a phone call. Were you surprised? Um? I

488
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: am not surprised. You know what something was coming. I

489
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: just felt like something had to happen. Probably, you know,

490
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: do you have anything else in the works as far

491
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: as TV stuff? Um, that's a maybe she's pausing. She

492
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: doesn't know what she's allowed to say. I'm not allowed

493
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: to say. Okay, Um, and then just kind of I know,

494
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: running out of time, but just give us updates like

495
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: on how your daughter is, how's your life like all

496
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Um, Kiki is amazing. She's turning

497
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: fifteen next month. She's I know, she got sewing recently,

498
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: which I'm really happy on. She made these super cool

499
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: like camo like mask things like that you put over

500
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: your head, like I can never pronounce it. The balat Cova.

501
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: I always say back lava, but that's like that's a

502
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: goat cheese. No black la ba is like the no

503
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: bank blah blah. It's like goat cheese inside of like

504
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: a little that's not. Oh no, we were like dumb

505
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: and dumber right now, it's like a what is a

506
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: It's a It's like a dessert. It's a great dessert.

507
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: But I also have it at Koi and make it

508
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: pretend it's an appetizer and has cheese on it, and

509
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, well, anyway, keep making amazing masks,

510
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: not goat cheese tarts tarts or anything. And she's doing awesome.

511
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Rob is great. He's like working on his art and um,

512
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: everything is good. I'm excited for the summer, like it's

513
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: been a long ass winter and yeah, more stuff coming.

514
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in New York next month, so

515
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: we STI have to hook up, go to dinner or something.

516
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: They're having the Ultimate Girls Trip premier party in New

517
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: York in New York. Yes, yes, I can wait to

518
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: watch that. It's gonna be I'm afraid. I'm so excited.

519
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Right It was one of those things where you're off

520
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: TV for almost two years and you get back on

521
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: and then you're surrounding with a bunch of girls that

522
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: you don't really I knew Dorenda, but most of them

523
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: I didn't really know. And um, you know, you get

524
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: back on it. You're like, this is good, we got this.

525
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's cameras everywhere, Like even like Vicky

526
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: and I drunk at three in the morning eating cold

527
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: pizza and not realizing what we're talking about, and there's

528
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: cameras on the walls. I'm like, ah, like, ship, what

529
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: did we say? So I know we can ask you

530
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: just brought it up. Do you think that last season

531
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: was problematic because there was no Dorinda? Oh? I think

532
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that was an issue. But I don't think even Dorinda

533
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: could have saved last season. Even Bethany, like, no one,

534
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I mean maybe if we had like

535
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: eight women and we were I don't know. I think

536
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: people just didn't like the like it was just a

537
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: horrible time, horrible time, horrible time. We have to play

538
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: one last game we play with every single guest. Um,

539
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: first question, if it's got to be men or women,

540
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pick from. So, but you're gonna

541
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: have to tell us do you want men or women?

542
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be kiss Mary, It's gonna be Mary

543
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Kelver done. A combination, A combination from anybody from New York.

544
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: It can be of the boyfriends or the housewives, or

545
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: if anybody was married that you know. I'm so confused

546
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, so the question is, would you shou

547
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I could marry kill? Oh got it? But you guys

548
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: picked the people. No, no, you have to pick them

549
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: from your from your cast. But it could be their

550
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: boyfriends or them. Oh okay, cool. Um I would Mary kill?

551
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I would like probably Luanne. I love it, Dalen, it's over,

552
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: that's all right. I just feel like she's probably very

553
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: sensual in bed and whatever. Um I would marry that's

554
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: a hard one. That's really hard. I mean I wouldn't

555
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: marry Tom. No, No, it's these are this is a

556
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of she's from. Maybe I would um marry. There's

557
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: not about the husband's that show. I don't know. I

558
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: can can I play a different game? Well, just get

559
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: that one? Is there somebody married? Are you killing? Are

560
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you killing? Or disappearing? Sometimes we have to say disappeared,

561
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: So like, oh my god, I know I don't know,

562
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: like probably, I don't know. I feel like she wants

563
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: to say, Sonya set about it. Well, that was nice

564
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: of you, Yes, but Mary Tinsley, you always just ruined

565
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: a friendship there. But then you remember, do you have

566
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: any regrets and anything that has ever happened on the show. Um,

567
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I really don't like to have regrets. I don't see

568
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: in it. It's like this is like that's what it

569
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: is like any lessons, right yeah? Ead Yeah, regrets are

570
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: pointless and U this is a fan question. Final one,

571
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: what is your biggest fashion mistake you made on the show? Honestly,

572
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: even my even my fashion mistakes were like great moments

573
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: because you wanted to read. Both had one that I

574
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: really had a little bit of a rough time with. Yeah.

575
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: I really don't like the I do I have an issue.

576
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I have textual issues. I have hand issues. Both of

577
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: you guys in the gloves really Salt Lake City girls

578
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: were wearing gloves at the reunion. I don't do well

579
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: with it. But I did it first. You did, and

580
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: like two years ago I did. I did it, and

581
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: they're just now coming out with it. Yeah, I did first.

582
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: It might not have been as expensive as Derek's hand

583
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: a glife. It might not have beend ball or whatever

584
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: she was wearing, but but you worked it and you

585
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: were first, and that's all that matters. Thank you. It

586
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: was that was a crazy look. That was definitely crazy look. Well,

587
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: we thank you so much for joining us. You're such

588
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: a pleasure. We had so much fun with you. You guys,

589
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: make sure that you purchase chaos theory, finding meaning and madness.

590
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: One decision, one bad decision at a time, a K.

591
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Tamra's life. That's my mom and uh, go ahead and

592
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: follow Liam McSweeney and thank you guys for tuning in.

593
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Yes and I'll hook. I'll give you a call when

594
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I get to New York. Yes, please do Yes? Okay,

595
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: h only, yes so much