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Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back e y l LA edition.

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Speaker 2: This is something that I'm very excited about. So the

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Speaker 2: young star court Day, he hit us up in the

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Speaker 2: DM and he was like, Yo, I think we should

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Speaker 2: do some content. Man be powerful, and he when he

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Speaker 2: reached out, I read the DM. So I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let's do it because I automatically knew what

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Speaker 2: that was like. You know, I've been following his career

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Speaker 2: and one of the things, Leason, I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if you've noticed, but we started in the schools with

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Speaker 2: young people. So that's actually how the whole thing was started,

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Speaker 2: with teaching financial literacy to young people. And I feel

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Speaker 2: like the movement of financial literacy is getting everybody right now,

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Speaker 2: but the young people are the people that really need

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Speaker 2: to hear the message the most for sure.

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Speaker 4: Not only do they.

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Speaker 2: Influence culture, influence everything, but they're in a position where

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Speaker 2: a lot of times, unfortunately you make mistakes. You forty

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Speaker 2: but it becomes tremendously harder.

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Speaker 5: For sure, time is your best ass, yea.

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Speaker 2: But when you're younger, you can actually, you know, get

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Speaker 2: off to a good start. So young man, superstar, Grammy nominated,

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Speaker 2: but even bigger than his musical career, just a very

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Speaker 2: I can tell he's a very sharp, intelligent young man.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: So first and Foremal, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you all for having me. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I haven't done no interviews in a minute, and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I watch all podcasts, you know, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, we got to do some dope shit

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Speaker 3: because I feel like it definitely can be something dope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: The first time I heard you, I was it was

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't we were on that. You know,

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Speaker 5: we come from a certain generation and we listened to

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Speaker 5: naves grow up on Jay. Yeah, and the newer artists

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Speaker 6: Cole had put out nineteen eighty five. Oh yeah yeah,

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Speaker 6: and they were like this young kid responded like, who

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, this kid's talented.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was that was dope. That was dope

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Speaker 2: because it was it was it was. It wasn't a disrecord,

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Speaker 2: But it's just your perspective, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I thought that that was dope because it was. I

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Speaker 5: That was nineteen eighty five, eighty five, Yeah, but he

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, so I'm excited to jump into this.

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Speaker 2: So first and foremost, I want to jump right into this.

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Speaker 2: As far as in the music business, you are what

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Speaker 2: We've like, We've talked to Jim Jones, We've talked to

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Speaker 2: has streaming? But this streaming is all you know? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Again, Yo, it's crazy. You mentioned Jim Jones too, my

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Speaker 3: bad to end the Rocks. Jim Jones was with me

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Speaker 2: at it like I'm gonna get hot on YouTube, do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a teenager, you know cause I made like

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Speaker 5: At an early age, right, you have influences? Are you

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Speaker 5: looking like I want to be a hip hop artist

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Speaker 5: because you got in like fifteen, which is like most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I was definitely since I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was rapping since I was like little, like five

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Speaker 3: like when we put out a whole mixtape or a

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Speaker 3: whole body of work, that's when like, uh, you are

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to Yeah, So ultimately that was

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Speaker 3: my goal to definitely get in the game. It's like

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Speaker 3: definitely hip hop. I mean it's a part of my DNA.

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Speaker 3: It's embedded within me, you know what I'm saying. That's

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Speaker 2: All the way, So I heard your dad used to

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Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: So that was some of your influences or did you

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Speaker 3: Man? A lot of naves, a lot of knaves, whole catalog,

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Speaker 3: the whole thing. What's your favorite album it was written? Ye?

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Speaker 3: Nah yo? Yeah nah yo. I feel like it's so

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Speaker 3: slept on because Ellmatic is Illmatic, but yo, it was written.

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Speaker 6: Grew up with us Amic FORU is my favorite of

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Speaker 3: I mean it's illmatic's crazy for sure. For sure, Fake

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Speaker 3: that's my joint? He said, yes, Nas King Solomon seven.

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Speaker 2: Hundred wives wise God, Yeah, this is a student that

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Speaker 2: makes sense? Now, Yeah, okay, student of the game. You're

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Speaker 3: You gotta be within whatever career path, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, if you want to be an architect,

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Speaker 3: research on Johnny Cockran you know what I'm saying on

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Speaker 3: So I feel like it's only right within the artistry craft.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm the biggest Michael Jackson fan. You fine,

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Speaker 6: All of that, So I would challenge most twenty three

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Unfortunately that's a fact. So let's get into this.

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Speaker 2: So from the business standpoint, there's a lot of young artists.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking on my nephew. He's in his early

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Speaker 2: they look at other people like you that have been successful,

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Speaker 2: but they don't.

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Speaker 3: Know how to get into rap.

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Speaker 2: What was your process to actually like walk through, get

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Speaker 2: a manager who walks you into the label? Like, how

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Speaker 2: did that work for you when you just you want

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Speaker 3: The college dropout. Man. It's like I was just listening

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Speaker 6: I got to follow my path.

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Speaker 3: was just gonna wing it for sure, and it just

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00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: God's time and shout out to Gods and God's time,

433
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 3: because I was definitely gonna leave regardless that same year

434
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: for sure, because I did three years two or three

435
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 3: years three years, and I was like, I was just

436
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 3: over it, dog, you know what I'm saying. Ass.

437
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 6: So you content on YouTube how frequently daily?

438
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 3: Not that frequently, because I was always on quality over quantity,

439
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: even when I had no fan base, you know, no

440
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: real audience. I was just always like, you know, if

441
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: I dropped some ship, it got to be some dope ship.

442
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 3: Like a cousin of mine used to shoot my videos.

443
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 3: He'd be pissed because you know, he wouldn't charge me

444
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: for him, but I would always be like very meticulous

445
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: about the art and I want it this way, like

446
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: not because I just had a bigger vision in him.

447
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. He's like, yo, I

448
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: can't even get mad at him. He like, yo, nigga,

449
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 3: don't got time. But I'm like, yo, bro, like you know,

450
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: my vision was just there and yeah, so it just

451
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: always trying to drop like the highest quality work, you know,

452
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: that was always my thing. Like we in such just

453
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: like content content flood flood flood flood flood era and

454
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: it works for certain things and for certain assets and

455
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: for certain products. But I feel like when you know

456
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: you got dope shit, and you confident within your dope shit,

457
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's like Kendrick, he't dropped

458
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: an album in four years. Next time he dropped, I'm

459
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: gonna listen to that motherfucker show, you know what I'm saying.

460
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: Like Nads dropped within his I'm like every two years.

461
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. So I just refused to

462
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: put out some men. I refuse to put out some

463
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 3: shit that like I won't die over. You know what

464
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I will argue with some if I put

465
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: out an album, I will sit here and argue with

466
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: your niggas to death about that jump. You know what

467
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like passionately will kill a nig about my album.

468
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm not that passionate about

469
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: the music man, and what I'm putting out. You ain't

470
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: gonna hear from me as an album, as a full album. Nah.

471
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this as far as shout

472
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: out to Ryan Leslie, he told us something that was

473
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: very powerful. He said, never discount the value of a

474
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: niche audience or just in your pocket.

475
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: I feel like there's so many different pockets of music

477
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: these days. With rest in peace to mac Miller, he

478
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: was a huge start. I never heard mac Miller song

479
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: on the radio. Even Russ. I've never heard Russ on

480
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: the radio, but I know he has a large fan

481
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: base and a large following, and there's a bunch of

482
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: other people like that.

483
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 4: So I say that.

484
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: To say, you are actually on the radio, But how

485
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?

486
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: Like it's for young artists?

487
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: Can you give them some words as far as like

488
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: do you think that it's better to try to reach

489
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: every single person, like yeah, Drake, or is it just

490
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: like double down on your audience and then if everybody

491
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: comes and that's just a blessing.

492
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, It just depends on what you want to do.

493
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: You can be a somebody who just builds the Like

494
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: I was saying earlier, that's the way you lay your foundation, right,

495
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: is just build your niche. That's the foundation that gives

496
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: you a let's look at a rap career like a

497
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: home right, build your core audience, your core fan base,

498
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: lay that foundation to lay that upon. But it's just

499
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 3: certain levels that you want to reach at the beginning

500
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: of stage. At the beginning stages, don't even worry about radio.

501
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: You know, I've I've only been a game for three years,

502
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: but this last year I just started getting on the radio.

503
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. I would say last year

504
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, but it's certain I want to be the biggest,

505
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: most successful artist in the world, so you need radio

506
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: for that. So for me personally, I'm not chasing no

507
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: radio single. I'm not that's lame, that's corny. You know

508
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm never gonna chase the radio I'm

509
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: never gonna make a song like, oh, this gonna be

510
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: good for the radio. You never never gonna do that,

511
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. When you do, if you

512
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 3: find yourself start doing that, you lost. You already lost,

513
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That shit lame as fuck.

514
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: But at a certain point, if you just happen to

515
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: make a really dope song and it's doing well on radio,

516
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 3: like you ain't never hurt nobody, You get what I'm saying.

517
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: But you shouldn't create music for the radio, and you

518
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: shouldn't chase the radio. You get what I'm saying. It'll

519
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: come when it's time to come. But I think I forgot.

520
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: I think shout out Juliet Jones. I don't know if

521
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: that that's Juliet's name right from Atlantic. She told me

522
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: you need every you're not a superstar and too, you're.

523
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 6: On the radio.

524
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 4: Tobody who said that?

525
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: That's I think funk Flex said that too. Yeah, yeah,

526
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: you're not a superstar until you're on the radio. Like

527
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: it's only it's like excher lines of stardom. You can be,

528
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, you can be like you ever heard

529
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: of his nigga name n f he or he's white

530
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: boy named n F exactly. But this motherfucker sells out

531
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: like amphitheaters. You never hear. Nobody in the one knows

532
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: who NF is. I just always research things. But this

533
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: motherfucker be selling out Amphitheater sold out. You can probably

534
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: do arenas. You get what I'm saying. It's a lot

535
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: of artists like that too. But if you want to

536
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: be like a true yeah like Drake not even but

537
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah. It just depends on whatever your path.

538
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: Like if you know the radio didn't play like anything

539
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: from like my last album, I ain't heard about it

540
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: at all, Like it's all it is what it is,

541
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: but I ain't gonna reject it. You get what I'm saying.

542
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: I'm accepted for what it is.

543
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 6: That's what makes you special because.

544
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to you, say you heard my showing radio,

545
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: So shout out to whatever radio.

546
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, one O five. I was hearing it so much

547
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: I started to actually remember the lines like fifteen my body.

548
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.

549
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: Now, I was saying, I think that's why people flock

550
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 5: to you. It's because of this organic feel like I'm

551
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: seeing veterans in the game, right even though there's not

552
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 5: a number one single, They're flocking to you because of

553
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 5: the gift the craft. So this it acceptance at the

554
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 5: upper echelon. Like I remember you posted up with Doctor Dre. Yeah,

555
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, like this kid doesn't have an album yet.

556
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Like what was that?

557
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 6: What is that like when you see acceptance from these greats?

558
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: Man, I just be having to pinch myself, man, And

559
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: thank god I was when I was at Dre House,

560
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: I think I was like, yo, kind of I went

561
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: to the bathroom and started thanking God immediately for real. Bro,

562
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, what the fuck nigga like this Doctor Dre. Bro,

563
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: this is like like just the God. You know what

564
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like, uh, Like he like rock and Roll

565
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. He's our Quincy Jones. Doctor Dre is

566
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: our Quincy Jones. Sure icon literally a living we use

567
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: this word go so loosely now and like in classic

568
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: so loosely now, but all right, but yo, but yeah

569
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: we use case in point but but yeah, but that

570
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: nigga's like a real life living legend icon go and

571
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: yeah yeah man, that I'm still like super appreciative, and

572
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: I like, don't take that relationship for granted, because he

573
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: was so early. You know what I'm saying, So shout

574
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: out doctor J that's the I seen.

575
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 6: I've seen him.

576
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: Then I saw you with Puff I'm like, yeah, he

577
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: must be the next That was my mind, Like I

578
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: heard that he must be so funny.

579
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: Shout out Puff too, y'all got y'all, y'all, y'all should

580
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: bring that liquor. And you know what, man, being around

581
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: puff Man inspires the fuck out of me all the time,

582
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: Like just being the same with him, just icon legend,

583
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: go to the highest level and he's still like work

584
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: like he ain't Puff you know what I'm saying, He's

585
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: still got so that ship. Every time I'm around him,

586
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: just his mind stay. And he's a man of God

587
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: as well. You know what I'm saying, Just like being

588
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: is inspiring as fuck because every when you he's so

589
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: much of a boss that in a rap lyric, whenever

590
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: you say boss, the following line is gonna be like Diddy,

591
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like Puff or like like

592
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: when he is become a noun or adjective for the words,

593
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: you know what, Like for real, he's like a legit,

594
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: a a living adjective for the word boss.

595
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: So black Caesar, I call him black Caesar for real.

596
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: I call him man Samosa for real.

597
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: That's even better. That's even better.

598
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, as far as on

599
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: the on the business side, we hear a lot about masters,

600
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: only your masks and things of that nature.

601
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: Is this something that you thought about?

602
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: Have you?

603
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're on your masters or not,

604
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: but have you thought about that? And is it in

605
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: your in your brain process?

606
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

607
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?

608
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ownership is is everything because what are you going

609
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: to leave your kids behind? You get what I'm saying, Like,

610
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: who's the artist I'm thinking of, Like Michael Jackson kids

611
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: are eating crazy? You know what I'm saying. I don't

612
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: know if Michael owned his man. I think he does.

613
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: He owned his Masters and the Beatles catalog and they.

614
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: Just sold that back the state.

615
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

616
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean that's things that your grand

617
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: especially when you make dope music like that, that's something

618
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: that your great grandkids they're going to sell your mass

619
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: you leave it up to them. So yeah, shout out Grandpa,

620
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: thanks for not selling them masters. But but yeah, it's

621
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: just you know, all about ownership. You get what I'm saying.

622
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: That's like one of the things everybody's preaching out, but

623
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: that's like the living embodiment of ownership. Nine times out

624
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: of ten, as a new artist, especially when you're signing

625
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: to a major label, you're not going to own your

626
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: masters unless you come in with the crazy dumb leverage

627
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: and even thinking on that level of ownership, because most

628
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: of the time when you come in the game, you're

629
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: just like, y'all need to check or you're like you're

630
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: in a position most artists are in a position to

631
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: where you don't really have anything. You don't got no money.

632
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: You come from the you know myself included come from.

633
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, nothing, You get what I'm saying,

634
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 3: and you just like somebody waves some bread at you,

635
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: you like, fuck it. I'll cross that bridge when it

636
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: comes the fact that most niggas getting too bad deals

637
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: because they're like, man, fuck it, I know it's a

638
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: bad deal, but nigga, I'm gonna get in this just

639
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna get me in the game. I don't got

640
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: ship right now, and I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

641
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: I worry about that shit later. Most people don't even

642
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: have the business acumen or the access to the information

643
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying, or knowledge. That's that's one thing.

644
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: That money or not even money, but being in the

645
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: position that I am has gave me access to the

646
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: information you get what I'm saying, because that's the number one.

647
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: But honestly, we're in the era. We are in the

648
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: information age, right access you have to do the research

649
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: and the knowledge on it, you know. So most people

650
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: come into the game, like I said, not even on

651
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: that mindset and not having a business acumen to even

652
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: think about ownership, owning my master's making sure the percentages

653
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: are right, the longevity, this, this, and that. Niggas like, Yo,

654
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: this million nigga milk nigga, give me that shit. Nigga

655
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: right now, give me a million dollars. Let me take

656
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: this ship for these motherfucking white folks change their mind

657
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: for real. That's what niggas be thinking, like, let me

658
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: just take this shit before they change their mind. Or

659
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: why it's on the table, get it, why it's going.

660
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, versus just like let me

661
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: sit back. You know, you get that with time, you

662
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying, Like that confidence within yourself and

663
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a learning process because it ain't

664
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: like one right way to go as an artist. You

665
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. It ain't okay sign to a

666
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: label and do this, do this, do that. It's so

667
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: many different avenues that you can take. You can, like

668
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: I said, you can be independent. You can be an NF.

669
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: You can be a.

670
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: Russ is rust independent.

671
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you can.

672
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: For sure you can be a RUSS. And you know,

673
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: just on your shit and collect upon that, you know,

674
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: forever the rest of your life, and you know, just

675
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: just continually build. And it's always the long grind always

676
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: ends up paying off the most because some people just

677
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: want to pump people. Like like I was saying, we're

678
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 3: in this content flood age, especially like within music. You

679
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying, Like everybody just like flood flog

680
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: you gotta get it. Niggas always say you gotta get it.

681
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: Why of goings? You know what I'm saying, blood Like, nah, nigga,

682
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: my shit doping and everybody shit in my opinion, you

683
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna take my time

684
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: with this and make sure I put out the best

685
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: quality work that I can live behind and I can

686
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: sleep well and night. You gel what I'm saying, Like.

687
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: I like that mentality people putting I'm gonna make ninety

688
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: nine songs, one of them is gonna be good for sure.

689
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 5: It's like, well, you just put out ninety eight whack junt.

690
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's at and it's a It's a fine

691
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: balance too, man, that it's just finding that perfect balance.

692
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: But the main thing is just putting out music that

693
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: you feel good about that you can stand behind. You

694
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like sometimes you want to put

695
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: out like different sounds to experiment and just test out.

696
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, like put this on the sea.

697
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But but for me personally,

698
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: if I put it out, especially an album an LP, well,

699
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: this is part of my legacy. I'm thinking about my legacy.

700
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be in the rock and roll the

701
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: Hip Hop Hall of Fame at the end of the day,

702
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: you gel what I'm saying. So with every single song,

703
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: with every single body of work, I'm thinking, how is

704
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: this going to affect my catalog in the long run.

705
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: When I'm entering as an inductee of the rock and

706
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: roll or the hip Hop Hall of Fame. So that's

707
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: how I'm thinking, just like in a in a bigger picture,

708
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: you know.

709
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

710
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: So when you signed to Atlantic, was it as a cruel?

711
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: You guys had individuals individual individual So yeah, here's the

712
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: thing that I think is impressive about you. Right, you

713
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: don't spend a lot of money and you don't do jewelry.

714
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you consciously made that decision. Is that just something watch?

715
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate it. Appreciate it.

716
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: Is that something you consciously went into your career saying,

717
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: you know what, that's just not something I'm thinking about

718
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: or were you thinking longevity?

719
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 6: I'm a stacked paper stackedus.

720
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: People, man, because a combination of both. Like when I

721
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: was in college and you know, I was like making

722
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: my little money from you know, hustling and ship like entrepreneurship.

723
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: I had like two gold chains. I had like the

724
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: mcm book bags. You know what I'm saying, study the

725
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: Pradas and the Balenciagas and ship. But when I like,

726
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: because I was trying to have to create the solution,

727
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: I was having money, you know what I'm saying, especially

728
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: when I get them the refund checks back. Oh, boy,

729
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: we lit lit falling for real and was I saying,

730
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: but yeah, But once I got bred, it was just

731
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: more soa me knowing like okay, like I got this

732
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: and it's just not something that I ever wanted to

733
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: become a part of me. You get what I'm saying,

734
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: like the jewelry or whatever other vanity because I feel

735
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 3: like in hip hop right now, man, it's this big

736
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 3: ass dick swinging contest about who can spend the most

737
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: money on the dumbest shit. You know what I'm saying,

738
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: Like for real, bro, and I get it, like with

739
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Jory and shit, I get it cause like Nigga, just

740
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: watch God don't make me feel good. You know, it's

741
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: a different thing. It's like a balance because like when

742
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: you feel good, when you look good, you feel good.

743
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: When you feel good, you do good. So it just

744
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: depends on whatever approach you want to take. That's why

745
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 3: I never talk down or you know what I'm saying,

746
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: got anything to say about anybody that like want to

747
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: spend a bunch of money on jewelry, because that's them,

748
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That could be like they

749
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: always wanted to shine, like we in the Blessed ass position.

750
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, why not fuck it? You

751
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: only live once. You got to live your life two

752
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: at the same time. But for me personally, that just

753
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: wasn't like my thing. You get what I'm saying, And

754
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: I knew like fiscally what like like we were just

755
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: saying earlier, like most people like yo, I want a

756
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: million when they signed to a lab, but they want

757
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: a million dollars. But you don't realize a million dollars

758
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 3: is really like three hundred and fifty thousand after taxes

759
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: and commissions, and that's if you don't spend shit, you

760
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

761
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: So I was gonna ask you about that. Can you

762
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: break that down?

763
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: Loo?

764
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that off camera? Like a million

765
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: dollars taxes and you gotta pay manage.

766
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so everybody when they come in the game, everybody

767
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: just want to take the big check, like out, yah,

768
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: I want five million, ten million dollar deals and niggas

769
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: is getting them for real in real life. But let's

770
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: just say it for like a meal. Uh, let's use

771
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: one meal because it's easy math. So, like say you

772
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: were a new artist and you signed for a million dollars, Well, niggas,

773
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: don't tell you it's boom. Taxes fifty percent off rip boom,

774
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: that's five hundred thousand, but uh, taxes take off Let's

775
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: say business expenses, right, so a million dollars boom, you

776
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: got one This is best case scenario. By the way,

777
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: say you only got one manager. Most niggas got two

778
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: managers or like they're in a production deal or some

779
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: shit like that. So let's say this best case scenario,

780
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: shit super cleaning your artist you got You just signed

781
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: four million dollars. You got one manager, okay, one million,

782
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: ten percent best case, it's nine hundred thousand boom. Then

783
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: you got your lawyer five percent and your business manager

784
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: boom boom boom. That's another uh fifty thousand, fifty down

785
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: to eight hundred thousand. Let's say you just happen to

786
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: have two managers, so boom another manager that's ten or

787
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: you pay manager twenty percent whatever, so boom, take out

788
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: another hundred thousand. So now you have seven hundred thousand.

789
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: You're gonna get taxed off. That's seven hundred thousand. So

790
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: now that's three hundred and fifty g's and that's best

791
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: case scenario. If you ain't like signing to some fucked

792
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: up ass production deal like most niggas is, or if

793
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: you uh, you know, got a manager, you're paying twenty

794
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: five percent, or whatever the case may be. So let's

795
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: just say best case scenario, a mill you get a

796
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: million dollar check after taxes and commissions, that's really three

797
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand. But niggas ain't spending money like

798
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: they got three hundred and fifty thousand, cause they don't

799
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: tell you that. Like I want to talk with labels,

800
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: we need to have a discussion us as artists about

801
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: like giving financial literacy classes, bro, because most artists we like,

802
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: come from nothing, you know what I'm saying. They don't

803
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: come from having even if they come from like better things,

804
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: they don't come from having a million dollars most of

805
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: the time, you know what I'm saying, having access to

806
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: this amount of money. You get what I'm saying. So

807
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: we need to start instituting like financial literacy classes, like

808
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: even for a hour. But most motherfuckers don't give a

809
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: fuck about the niggas they sign, you know what I'm saying,

810
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: They just like whatever, milking it. So I feel like

811
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: we got to start implementing that because when folks get

812
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: that million dollar checks, they ain't spending based off having

813
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty. They spending off of that million dollars.

814
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: So they're gonna buy a hundred can jewelry to feel

815
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: good because like I said, I can't knock get nigga

816
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: when you when I put on some jurey or nigga,

817
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: be feeling good, you know what I'm saying. Like, like

818
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: I said, when you look good, you feel good. We

819
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: feel good, you do good. And some niggas get cars

820
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: one you know, treat they mom. I remember when I

821
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: first got like something, some real money. I wired my

822
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: mom a large sum amount of money. That's why I do.

823
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: My mom was the realist. She was like, how much

824
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: money you got in your bank account? Will you pay

825
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: taxes yet? You you know what I'm saying. I was

826
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: like no. She was like, well, you can't afford to

827
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: send this for real? Sent it back, sent it back,

828
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So when I was able to,

829
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: you know, really have it like that, God to bless

830
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: moms all the way, you know, because that's some real ship.

831
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: Who mama gonna do that? You send your mama a

832
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: fat ass check wire a crazy she ain't never seen before.

833
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: She's gonna send it.

834
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 6: She's gonna be like where you get it from?

835
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: For sure? You know what I'm saying.

836
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's a mother's intuition. Because even my

837
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: mom to this day, like I send her like some

838
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: money and she'd be like, did you do this yet?

839
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm like if obviously, if I sent it, I

840
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: don't need it, Like it's all good. But you know

841
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 2: that that says a lot about how your mom saying

842
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: thinking of you before she saw of herself, for sure.

843
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the that's that's powerful right there. Let

844
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: me ask you this as far as as far as

845
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: like management, right, because this is something that we a

846
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: lot as far as like management and all that I'm looking.

847
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 6: We got management in the room.

848
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: No, no, no, How does an artist choose a manager? And

849
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: what do you think how like the role of a

850
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: manager should be an artist's career?

851
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: Well, I'm joking now, he said, this is awful line

852
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: right right.

853
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: Right, But man, honestly, with me and my manager, it

854
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: was like a divine time and sort of situation, we

855
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: just linked up at the perfect time, and you know,

856
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: I had the homie managers. You know what I'm saying,

857
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: Like my niggas that when I was like making my mixtape,

858
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: I had my nigga Eric, shop my nigga Eric and

859
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: we two super alpha males, you know what I'm saying.

860
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: So it didn't work out super early. Matter of fact,

861
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: like before my first I was like fifteen years old

862
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: and my man's managing me, and we were like, man,

863
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: fuck this shit, it don't work out, But you just

864
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: gotta man with it. Just got to be somebody that

865
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: won you mesh well with with a manager. And like,

866
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't got all the answers at the end of

867
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: the day, I'm still a fairly new artist. I'm still young,

868
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: So take everything I say with a grain of salt

869
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: throughout this whole interview. By the way, you know what

870
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because I'm still learning. In the grand scheme

871
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: of things, I still don't know sho not for real,

872
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: it's real. So everything with a grain of salt. But

873
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 3: in my opinion, it should be like you know someone

874
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: that you both are in alignment and both operate on

875
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: the same wavelength, you know what I'm saying, operating on

876
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: similar frequencies to where they already know you as a person.

877
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. One, do y'all get along

878
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: well too? Is it somebody that you can really trust?

879
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of people, Uh, my manager Ace,

880
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: I've been with him since day one. You know what

881
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, since the very beginning, since I had like

882
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: three thousand followers. You get what I'm saying. So it's

883
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: someone who I've grown to trust over time. You guild

884
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and someone that you trust. One, someone

885
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: that you're confident in their abilities to represent you when

886
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: you're not in the room. You guild what I'm saying.

887
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: They got to be someone who you're not afraid they're

888
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: gonna say some stupid ship to like misrepresent you. You know

889
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: what I'm saying when you're not there. Two. Somebody that hmmm.

890
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: Trustworthy.

891
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, trust that's that's for somebody trustworthy.

892
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: Because you know what I find it, Because it's like

893
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: even reaching out. There's been several artists I won't mention

894
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: their name, but.

895
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: Niggas want you to manage. Actually that's a good idea.

896
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 6: Actually, remember what you said about that financial literacy thing. Yeah, Atlantic,

897
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: we know two guys that teach it. So if you

898
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: need artists and.

899
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: Atlantic is definitely shout out Julie Kaiser, Craig Calm in Dallas.

900
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: They're all like real dope ogs to that been in

901
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: the game for a long time. So they'll sit If

902
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm like tripping, they'll like call me and be like, yo,

903
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: you sure you want to be spending You know what

904
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like they actually, I like, you know, good people,

905
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: but in some situations you get what I'm saying. It

906
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: ain't It ain't like that all the.

907
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Time now, But I was saying, I've reached out to

908
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: a few artist, a few arts and hit us up.

909
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: I reached out and they like, y'all want to come on,

910
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: Like I want to link with y'all. Yeah, it's not

911
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: even it's a done deal here. Hit my manager and

912
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: just work out the details. I hate the manager and

913
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: manager never responds yeah like that. It'd be like it's

914
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: either just like I feel like sometimes the manager might

915
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: have their own.

916
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: And sometimes as an artist you don't even need a

917
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 3: manager until you reach a certain echelne. That's like you're

918
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: reaching out. You're talking with somebody with like three thousand followers.

919
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: And just using that number as of talk to my manager.

920
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like talk to a manager you like, nigga,

921
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: What if I was that guy with three thousand followers?

922
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: What are you right now with the man like nigga?

923
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: What do you have to do? You know what I'm saying,

924
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: Like real, you know what I'm saying. So and I'm

925
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: saying that because I was that guy with three thousand

926
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: followers with the with the homie managers. You know what

927
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like for real? But uh yeah, dog, but yeah,

928
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: And you got to empower your folks to around you. You

929
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying, Like put like when you like,

930
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: when I'm on the road, all you see is the

931
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: homies I grew up with. You get what I'm saying,

932
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: Like my homie camp is my tour manager with tone,

933
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: my boy Ian's on the roll with me. You get

934
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Every single person on that tour bus

935
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: with me is homies that I grew up with, and

936
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: now we're seeing the world together and getting paid to

937
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: see the world. And that's like the most dopest, most

938
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: powerful shit you know to me. And because when like

939
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm on tour, they just able to cross paths with

940
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: just like they were here with me today. Somebody like

941
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: y'all to link up and build genuine, real connections on

942
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: their own, you know what I'm saying. To wherever they

943
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: able to branch off and do their own thing. You

944
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. Niggas can't be no hos either,

945
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: like when your homie Black has been able now for real,

946
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: Niggas can't be holes like when you said when you

947
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: say it, so they really capture that no no no

948
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,600
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949
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,839
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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, y'all must it must be an inside but yeah,

1001
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: but like just empower your people, dog, you know what

1002
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Always empower your people to where they can

1003
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: go off and branch off eventually and do their own thing.

1004
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1005
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 4: That's it. That's a fact.

1006
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: That's kind of like what we built with Lisia is

1007
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: a whole family of everybody that you always see, is what.

1008
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: There's always people that we either are related to that

1009
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: we grew up with. Real small you know.

1010
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out Paulo g Man. I see like his

1011
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: mom manages them. She's you know, I see a lot

1012
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 3: of mom managers. She's crushing it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah,

1013
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: So that's I think that's the.

1014
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: Rulership because I'm thinking that the people that you grew

1015
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: up in Maryland?

1016
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: Is that are you talking about?

1017
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1018
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 6: He came west because I really.

1019
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: Thought she was from the West Coast where he talked,

1020
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, this guy's got to be from the west what.

1021
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: But I heard him like and then I read him like, well,

1022
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: he's not on the West Coast.

1023
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: So I've never heard that before. By the way, bro show,

1024
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: I think it's show. That's probably definitely for show. I've

1025
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: been living here the last two years, so that might

1026
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: have definitely take for the show.

1027
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: You know, I'm in that snowfall mind step right now.

1028
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 5: So Franklin always saying for show. So like when you said,

1029
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh okay, maybe from there.

1030
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 6: So it is it the same crew that they came

1031
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 6: with you where you left me? Okay, perfect, perfect, same crew.

1032
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no new friends, none at all. Anti social with

1033
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: that all the way kicking it.

1034
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get to that a little later.

1035
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: So branding, do you what other means do you bring?

1036
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Like merch you into the merchant.

1037
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so with branding, it's like high level. That's like

1038
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: my company, Like my it's perfect. How do you mention that?

1039
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: But but yeah, not Brandon. So high level is my thing.

1040
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: It's a it's a record label. It's a way of

1041
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: life more than anything. It's my brand, my way of life.

1042
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: It's something I'm very passionate about because it's like whenever

1043
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: like this is a high level interview. You know what

1044
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, got to make my music high level. You

1045
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. When Homie make a doult play

1046
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: or that some high level shit. You know what I'm saying.

1047
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: Everybody is high level, y'all high level. You make dope music,

1048
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: y'all high level. You know what I'm saying, my fans

1049
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: all high level, you know what I'm saying. So it's

1050
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: a mind stay, a frame of mind in a way

1051
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: of doing things. You get what I'm saying, So try

1052
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: to do everything to the highest level. So this is

1053
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: sponsor to you by level, just in case you're.

1054
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, I mean, like, how important is that because

1055
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: a lot of times I feel like it's one thing

1056
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: to just be a dope artist. But I feel like,

1057
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: especially a lot of new artists, they're realizing that their

1058
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: brand is growing outside of just music.

1059
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, for sure.

1060
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: Or if it's you know, different you know, endorsement deals,

1061
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: different things to that nature, Like, yeah, how important is

1062
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: all the intangible?

1063
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure outside of just making music.

1064
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's a combination. It's a like I said, man,

1065
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: this music game. Man, it's a real like thin line

1066
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: because you gotta, you know, brand yourself well. But you

1067
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: can't slutch yourself out either as an artist doing too

1068
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: many brand deals because you corny. You know what I'm saying.

1069
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: It look like you'll take any type of dollar, you

1070
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was making a joke when

1071
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: this quarantine shit first started out, was like, hey, nigga,

1072
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: don't judge me. Y'all see me doing swipe up stories.

1073
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But you can't just be

1074
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: slutting out your brand to look like you're you know,

1075
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: staying for something or fall for anything. You know, seem

1076
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: like you'll do whatever to you know, just for the check.

1077
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like high level that's on

1078
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: one hundred percent by me. There's something I'm passionate about.

1079
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1080
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: All my friends we all on that high level shit.

1081
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: All my fans all on that high level shit. So

1082
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: this is something that's like near and deep to my

1083
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: heart and I own it. It's my shit. But I

1084
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: also have a brand partnership with with Puma. You gel

1085
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But there's somebody who's been supporting me

1086
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: since day one. You gel what I'm saying, and it's somebody.

1087
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: I used to wear Puma. I wore pumas to my

1088
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: my middle school dance. You gel what I'm saying. And

1089
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: we used to wear back in Maryland. You know, we

1090
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: wore uniforms and shit. So Puma jackets was our way

1091
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: of like expressing ourselves. Just it was like for one

1092
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: year they was like super super dope. But yeah, Puma

1093
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: is somebody we uh we the company is like very supportive.

1094
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: We think like like minded ways. They support like all

1095
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: my ideas and you know, whether it be financially or

1096
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: in a lot of times, with Puma, I'm able to

1097
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: like go back within my community and do like really

1098
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: really dope ship. You get what I'm saying that you

1099
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: won't hear niggas talk about a brag about, but like

1100
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: really able to implement like some really cool ship to

1101
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: help out a lot of people. And that's one of

1102
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: the dope things about Puma is that they really like

1103
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: supportive with like you know, giving back to uh the

1104
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: community mine in particular, and like just really supportive of

1105
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: my vision. Like I'm able to creative direct. I'm a

1106
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: real like brand ambaster to like be a contract.

1107
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get yet I don't have on today,

1108
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: but I would I wear all the time.

1109
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. But but but yeah, like I said,

1110
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: there is just natural to me. I was wearing sways before.

1111
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, and they're real And what

1112
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: was I saying before? Oh yeah, yea, yeah, Like I'm

1113
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: like I'm literally a brand ambassador you know what I'm saying,

1114
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: like in real not like the Yeah for sure, And

1115
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: like with my sneaker, they give me royalties. You get

1116
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like I literally get a

1117
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: royalty rate on the shoe. You know what I'm saying.

1118
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure it's on the way

1119
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: for sure. But I'm able to creative direct all the

1120
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: shoots that I'm in. You get what I'm saying, Like

1121
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: I have like a position of power if you would,

1122
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 3: I've spoken with the c oh of Puma. You get

1123
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. From Germany. You feel me and jet,

1124
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 3: I've been on a Puma jet for real, they really

1125
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: I had. I had like three shows and one day.

1126
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, back when everything was popping, I had

1127
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: a show and I want to say Florida. Then I

1128
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: had Complex Con. Then I had Dan Vegas all in

1129
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: the same day, and Puma took the jet with me

1130
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: and the homies Nigga.

1131
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: All across Complex can when he was there the last

1132
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: Complex car there was.

1133
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: I was in and out yea long beach. I was

1134
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: in and out ye Complex Yeah. Yeah, I was in

1135
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: and out for Complex Cons and I had to fly

1136
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: day for day in Vegas. You know what I'm saying,

1137
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: at eight pm that day, So you know, they let

1138
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: me the Puma jet. You know what I'm saying. So

1139
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: for real, good folks at Puma, the good folks at Puma,

1140
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: for real, they really be fucking with a niggas, you

1141
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So yeah, and I did, like, uh,

1142
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: it's some like I try not. Like I was saying,

1143
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: this is a fine balance between like having brands because

1144
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: that also increases like your visibility. You know what I'm saying.

1145
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: Puma has me. I'm like literally like damn near the

1146
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: face of Puma. You gel what I'm saying. Like, and

1147
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: I've been they've been rocking with me, like for the

1148
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 3: last three years, three four years, and they have me

1149
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: in fucking bill I always get family members and niggas

1150
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: texting me, like with a picture of me and a

1151
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: Puma billboard, big ass billboard, like somewhere in the city

1152
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: or in a foot lock Champion of foot action. You

1153
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That helps my brand visibility. You

1154
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,240
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. So it's like a mutual thing.

1155
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: And I helped them sell sneakers one but have them

1156
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: relevant in pop culture and music culture, you know what

1157
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and the culture, so it's an equal you know,

1158
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: partnership in it with that situation for you or who

1159
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: oh yeah yeah Emory Yeah yeah, No he wasn't, but

1160
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm I'm yeah, yeah, very close. I met him a

1161
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: couple of times. Shout out to o g Emory, shout

1162
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: out to bigs. They all like, you know what I'm.

1163
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 6: Saying, in charge of the basketball.

1164
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't shout to Jay. Yeah, yeah, shout

1165
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: them for sure.

1166
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Yeah.

1167
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you as far as so investing.

1168
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: You said that you started investing during the pandemic, at

1169
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: the end of the pandemic. Yeah, so can you talk

1170
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: about that? What got you into investing and how has

1171
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: that going for you?

1172
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? So it was around March obviously when the pandemic

1173
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 3: verse started and I noticed the dal Jones was under

1174
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: nineteen thousand and like we talked about earlier, I always

1175
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: been stacking, Brad forever. You know what I'm saying, I've

1176
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: been I probably saved like eighty cent of my income,

1177
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: but I noticed, not even I noticed. I felt like

1178
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: I was just not even felt like I was just

1179
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: extremely liquid at the time. You get what I'm saying.

1180
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: I just had a bunch of money just sitting in

1181
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: a savings account, for sure, and you got to have

1182
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: your money work for you know. My stepdad was telling

1183
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: me that, And so I entered in this blessed as

1184
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: position to where I just happened to have an access

1185
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 3: of Hella capital. You know what I'm saying, to really

1186
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: make work for me. You get what I'm saying. So

1187
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: I entered the stock market. So I bought Apple, and

1188
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: this is last March, and it was dirt cheap, it

1189
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: was under nineteen thousand. So I bought Apple. I bought Neo,

1190
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: which is like the Chinese Tesla. When it was like

1191
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 3: at five dollars a share, I ran up to sixty Yes, Sirski,

1192
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: I feel me got out of there too, thousand percent.

1193
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: But let me see, I bought app for sure, so welcome,

1194
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: appreciate it, appreciate it. I bought Apple, I bought Neo,

1195
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: this regular shit too, like I bought Dizzy n I

1196
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: bought let me pull up money, just so it's an

1197
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 3: accurate thing. You know, you got to share the knowledge,

1198
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like that, it's like we

1199
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: have access We're in an information agent, so we have access,

1200
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: and one of the beautiful things about being in a

1201
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: position of power, we have to share this access of

1202
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: knowledge and information because, like I said, I still don't

1203
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: have all the answers. You know what I'm saying, I

1204
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: don't have nowhere near close. And I'll never pretend like

1205
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: I do. I'll be the first to say if I

1206
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: know some ship like Nigga, I do not know, like please, Okay.

1207
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: So I got Apple, I got Airbnb, I got Delta

1208
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 3: and these. I bought all of this in March because

1209
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing like the day trade thing because I'm

1210
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: like playing with like a large amount of bread. So

1211
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: I'm just looking on like long term. You know what

1212
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying, this bajo long term. So I got Apple, Airbnb,

1213
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: I got Delta. I just bought Airbnb. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1214
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah. Come on the show Disney Neo Royal

1215
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: Career being snowflake Tesla Uber. I just bought Zilos, Zilo Bend.

1216
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 3: I just bought Uber and Zillow. Both of them been

1217
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: kicking my ass. And then I have another one hold

1218
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: one Lockheed martin Walmart, like you know, just the regular

1219
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: blue chip stocks. I got a bunch of those. It's

1220
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 3: just like all paid dividends all you know what I'm saying,

1221
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: like the slow you know what I'm saying, like really

1222
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: for really living it.

1223
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 6: I love it.

1224
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: So what made That's a nice portfolio, by the way.

1225
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: I got I got a bunch. I got like thirty

1226
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: more to just in case. But it's it's all like

1227
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: Lockheed Martin ups lows type of you know what I'm saying,

1228
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: just the blue home depots, the blue chip all paid

1229
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: dividends just gradually build up, but also got blink to one.

1230
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: Sounds like you got one already, you know in ets.

1231
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: Nah. Also, you know I fucked up on not even

1232
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: fucked up. I'm missed out on bitcoin because I wasn't

1233
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: this nigga. RODDI Rich told me. I tell you, nigga,

1234
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: he told me about bitcoin in July, like last July.

1235
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: I want to say. It was like at four thousand

1236
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: or two thousand at the time, but I wasn't knowledgeable

1237
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: in it within myself. So I'm like, I'm gonna stick

1238
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: to what I know. You know what I'm saying. I

1239
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: know the blue chip stocks, and I know like the

1240
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: apples and the Tesla's and the NEOs and the Royal

1241
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: Caribbeans because I was just like, I know all like

1242
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: the cruise lines, it is dry. It was I thought

1243
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: Royal Caribbean at like thirty dollars, and I was like,

1244
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: I know that shit's gonna go back up. I know

1245
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: all these airline stocks is going to go back up.

1246
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: I know Apple ain't going nowhere, Tesla, you know all

1247
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: of these things, and obviously the blue chip stocks and

1248
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: also a lot into the cloud if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

1249
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: I had Rocket for a little bit. But yeah, yeah, like.

1250
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 6: The number one in America.

1251
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, what made him?

1252
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: What do you tell you about? But he just like

1253
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: just get in bitcoin, Like, oh, I'm investing in bitcoin.

1254
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he told me about it like super early.

1255
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1256
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: Man, So shout out to that nigga.

1257
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: Man that's at y'all having that conversation though, because I

1258
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: even a it's you know, it's like a dominant fact

1259
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: because I had him on a breakfast club when he

1260
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: said Meek Mill told him like saving money and money

1261
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: and save you. Yeah, and so like meek Mill gave

1262
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: him some financial advice and then he gave you some

1263
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: financial advice.

1264
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, just spreading the saying I told him about Neo

1265
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: the same day. You know what I'm saying, just spreading up.

1266
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: I dy k too. I don't know if y'all know

1267
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: who that is. He's like very knowledgeable within like financial literacy.

1268
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: So it's like we all. The way I look at

1269
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: it is like fuck a song, you know what I'm saying,

1270
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: Like this song, this music shit is all cool. But

1271
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: in the bigger picture, we all young brothers in a

1272
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: position of power who are in this blessed position to

1273
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 3: have access to capital and cash to where we gotta

1274
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: spread this information and this knowledge we have. Like, Yo, nigga,

1275
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: I got this uh opportunity for the pre IPO and

1276
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: Robin hood. Bro, you should get in it. I got

1277
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: this pre ip opportunity in zilch Man. You should get

1278
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: these all real life shit by the way, but like, yo,

1279
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: you should get into this. You know what I'm saying.

1280
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: No for real.

1281
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: So now, so how did you learn? You said your

1282
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: step Your stepdad.

1283
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah, yeah, he got he told me. He Now,

1284
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: he just told me I should just look into it.

1285
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, Like he just told me,

1286
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: like essential he might have, but he just told me, like,

1287
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, just to get into it. It's something so

1288
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: shout out to step Pops and and also too, uh.

1289
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: I first started buying stocks on cash at before. I

1290
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 3: was like playing with like my savings, you know what

1291
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, with like a big ass sum of money.

1292
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: I was playing with that a little bit and I

1293
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is kind of like like really dope,

1294
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: you geel what I'm saying. And then yeah, and then

1295
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: when my step Pops told me about it too, he

1296
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: told me about Neo. He specifically told me about Neo,

1297
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: and I got into that and every time they should

1298
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: go up, I call that nigga, Like, yo, nigga, you

1299
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like for real.

1300
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 6: I invested in it.

1301
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 5: Well, actually I didn't pull the trigger actually, and by

1302
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: somebody to pull the trigger.

1303
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: I got in Zoom early too. Zoom was a good one.

1304
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 4: So so you buying a whole whole holding them.

1305
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, holding them all along. I'm Neo is gonna be

1306
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: like one hundred dollars. Stop when Neo go to one

1307
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: hundred dollars should sometimes after a year in the day,

1308
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: which has recently been I share a little bit because

1309
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, long term personal. You know what I'm saying,

1310
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: You feel me, I really do this ship in real life,

1311
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: and you know, I just felt like that's why I

1312
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: wanted to do this with y'all, because I just felt

1313
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: like I just gained so much knowledge in the last

1314
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: year in which has been a blessing within quarantine because

1315
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm doing shows, you know. I was on

1316
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: the road doing shows every day, booked, you know, and

1317
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: it's a blessing. I can't wait to get back on

1318
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: the road either, because I love that ship. But I

1319
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: was just doing shows, got so much going on. But

1320
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: when this quarantine popped off, everything stopped and I had

1321
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, let me like like get my

1322
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: business acumen to the level it needs to be at.

1323
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: Let me high level came about. You get what I'm saying, Like,

1324
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: for real, how can I tell these young kids? And

1325
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: you know, because when I'm on tour, I always speak

1326
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: to like I go to like the local high schools,

1327
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: local middle school is just to talk to kids, you

1328
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I said, each one, teach one,

1329
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, how can I talk to these

1330
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: kids about ownership when I'm not a majority owner of

1331
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: some dope, shit you geel what I'm saying. So I

1332
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: had to get my business acumen to the level it

1333
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: needed to be because, like I said, I've always been

1334
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: good with saving money with money management. But I'm like,

1335
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: y'all got to invest this bread versus having all this money,

1336
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: millions of dollars just sitting in the savings account. No,

1337
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: let me invest some of these millions within these different

1338
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: tangible assets that you know I can that I'm not

1339
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: even looking at. That's just money that I'm just like

1340
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: put it away, don't even think about it, you gel

1341
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, and it's just growing like into

1342
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: real estate. Bought my first real estate properties, you gel

1343
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. For sure, just you know, just down

1344
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: Southhomore so because it's a lot cheaper, you know, and yeah,

1345
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: just getting into real estate, getting into you know, stocks

1346
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: and bonds. I got a good amount of bonds. California

1347
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: and New York got the best bonds. And for sure

1348
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: the way al ry you know what I'm saying, ilra

1349
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: every year fifty five thousand a year. You know what

1350
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying this stuff, which is you know, just to

1351
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: write it off, you know, bl.

1352
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: Going yo, you're gonna be an extremely wealthy man.

1353
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 3: For sure. Appreciate it. I received that for sure, had

1354
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: no for sure, not for real because I really, like,

1355
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: like I said, I always been God with saving money.

1356
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: But I was like, y'all, I gotta have this money

1357
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: work for me because, like I said, the blessing of

1358
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: the quarantine, I really had to get my business acumen

1359
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: to the level to where it needed to be at

1360
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: to where I have this money just okay, I got

1361
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: this working, these stocks over here working, uh, these municipal

1362
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: bonds working. I got this real estate over here work.

1363
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: And I got this company, this branding just overall, with

1364
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: my entire branding, I had to like really like sit down, wosah,

1365
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: because when you're on the road and you like release

1366
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: the music my because I'm a workaholic, all I do

1367
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: is record music. I ain't go a single day throughout

1368
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: this pandemic without writing a song, this entire pandemic road

1369
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 3: music every single day. And I was like that, especially

1370
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: on the road. I do a show late at night,

1371
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: and then as soon as I lead show, do my

1372
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: meet and greets, boom this record. And you know, I

1373
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: was just on auto pilot essentially, dysfunctioned off all of

1374
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: part of a machine, you know what I'm saying, Like

1375
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 3: really just doing shows after the show record boom boom

1376
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: boom is knocking it out. So where like I said,

1377
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: it's quarantine, been able to take a deep breath and

1378
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: really get my business uh sorted out to the level

1379
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: it needed to, because my shit wasn't fucked up, but

1380
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: it wasn't high level, you know what I'm saying. It

1381
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: wasn't for sure, It wasn't you know what I'm saying invertually,

1382
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't high level for real. So I had to

1383
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: sit down rewrite my goals because out of my first

1384
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: like manifest book and vision board, I accomplished a good

1385
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: amount of that, you know, within these last three years,

1386
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, these last two years, and

1387
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: I thank God, and I thank Him in advance for

1388
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: what's about to come. I still ain't done nothing yet

1389
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: in the grand scheme of things. For what I'm about

1390
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: to do, you know what I'm saying, really about to

1391
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: go legend out here for real, and I just really

1392
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: had to, you know, just rewrite down my goals, rewrite

1393
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,479
Speaker 3: down what I want to do and what I really

1394
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 3: went out of this music thing, and how I can

1395
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: really by the next generation, and just thinking about, like

1396
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: I said, my catalog and my legacy, what do I

1397
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: really want to be remembered as. And I always had

1398
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: these things in my mind, but I just had to

1399
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 3: just really like just sit down and formulate it, plot playing,

1400
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: write it down in my journals, in my vision note book.

1401
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: I got where you go. In my house, I got

1402
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 3: fucking like motivational quotes literally everywhere. You know what I'm saying,

1403
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: I hired an assistant. I didn't have an assistant until

1404
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: the beginning, you know what I'm saying of a pandemic. Yeah,

1405
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: for sure, you know, because I was just like just

1406
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: saving bread, you know what I'm saying. When I realized,

1407
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: like an assistant can help my personal life to where

1408
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about certain things.

1409
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

1410
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 5: That's crazy that you just said the word worry, Because

1411
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 5: as you're talking, I'm thinking about the fact that the

1412
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: pandemic has.

1413
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 6: Had on you.

1414
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 5: It's almost helped you become a little bit of therapeutic

1415
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: because even through the Lost Void the album, I hear

1416
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: anxiety a lot through the lyrics. And you said earlier

1417
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: antisocial and so has that the pandemic has helped you

1418
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 5: deal with.

1419
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: Those things anti social. I'm even more now it's about

1420
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: me to leave the house because I got Yeah, I

1421
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: got the studio in the crib. We can do August

1422
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: twenty sixth.

1423
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 4: So you're what is that.

1424
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 6: Right before that?

1425
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: We are the best. We got Mike, we got Michael Jackson,

1426
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: we got Beyonce, we got Kobe, we got nas with

1427
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: Swiss like me, you know what I mean, not to

1428
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: put myself in that category of them by level respect

1429
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 3: they all level extremely the highest level, highest level all show.

1430
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: But but yeah, man, just shout out to all the

1431
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: virgos out there, you know.

1432
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: But then what was we talking anti social? Because no, no, no,

1433
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: I open up if you're comfortable.

1434
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, not even I don't even want to use the

1435
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: word anti social. Get shout out that nigarati. But I

1436
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: don't want to use the word anti social. But I'm

1437
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 3: just very to myself, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,

1438
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: reserve and more reclusive if anything.

1439
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 6: You know, I don't really you said the past ye

1440
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 6: turns you to extreme clues.

1441
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: For sure, Like I'm not like I'm not with the

1442
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: fake kicking it especially within this industry, this entertainment industry.

1443
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say just music industry, just

1444
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: within entertainment. It's just a lot of fake kicking that

1445
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: we call networking. You know what I'm saying. But I

1446
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 3: just really fuck with like minded individuals, you know what

1447
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Anderson Pact. That's like people you see

1448
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: me do music with. That's like a real homie of mind.

1449
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I got like I

1450
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: love that nigga. You know what I'm saying, that's really

1451
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: like my big bro, Like he been fucking with me

1452
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: since like the very beginning. You know what. He took

1453
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: a chance when we did that R and P. You

1454
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like not a big one. We

1455
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: got a platform. You know what I'm saying.

1456
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean now, but debut.

1457
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: For sure, the debut. Appreciate it. Y'all said it now,

1458
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: y'all said winning the next one.

1459
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 6: Big fact for real.

1460
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: But and I always that's how high level came about,

1461
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: because I say that ship so fucking much bro Like,

1462
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: especially now, I was like, yo, man, that's a fucking

1463
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: high level man, somebody. You know what I'm saying, Yo,

1464
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: that is not high level, bro. So you know what

1465
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying like that ain't no.

1466
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: High level because I was saying that before, like you know,

1467
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: like I used to play basketball.

1468
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know my coach that used to

1469
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: be like how much your niggas getting paid for one

1470
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: go to the next, But I like the diverse from

1471
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: one go to the next, my bag. You'll can clip

1472
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: that out Jerry Rice, Oh for real.

1473
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his energy drink that's made with mushrooms.

1474
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: That's a commercial. Yeah, that's a commercial. Mike, cut the check.

1475
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 6: Call the people over there, Call the people over there.

1476
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: Now.

1477
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: But my coach used to always say, like, no matter

1478
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: what you're going through in life, whatever you got girl problems,

1479
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: you got family problems, you gotta perform at a high level.

1480
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: For Surebody give a funk about what you got going

1481
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: on in life. And that's the sad reality. Were not

1482
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: avet Us as a society. We're not very compassionate. We

1483
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: have no empathy, we have no compassion myself, not myself

1484
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: and sometimes no, no, no, no, I'm gonna be real

1485
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: like all I can be is myself. Bro. You know

1486
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I'm not here to be anybody else.

1487
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: All I can. Nobody can be you better than you,

1488
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 3: Nobody can be Cordat better than me. You get what

1489
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I'm not ever gonna fake the funk.

1490
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be myself unapologetically. Bro. You don't you

1491
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 3: don't like it, fast forward, you fuck with it. Love,

1492
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: I love you like my mother gave birthy. You know

1493
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But yeah, us as a society, and

1494
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: like I said, sometimes I can be not as compassionate.

1495
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm passionate, but sometimes I can be a little more compassionate.

1496
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 3: I can show a little more empathy. I have empathy

1497
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 3: for fellow man and for humans, for us, you know,

1498
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: brother sisters. You know what I'm saying. But I can

1499
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: be whatever. I'm not even about to go down. You

1500
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 3: get them.

1501
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 5: This is one of my favorite quotes. Common said it,

1502
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 5: but it's in the Bible as well. Knowing when you're weak,

1503
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 5: when you're really being strung. And so if you know

1504
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 5: your flaws, then you know what you need to work on.

1505
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 5: So take credit for that.

1506
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

1507
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 6: Being aware of that concert or that is powerful.

1508
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure. And I don't want niggas to

1509
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: think I'm not empathetic. I'm very, but I'm very What

1510
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying is, I'm I'm compassionate, empathetic, but I can

1511
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: be a lot more and extremely us as a society,

1512
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: we are extremely unempathetic, not compassionate, because it's just all

1513
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 3: of this shit going on. You get what I'm saying,

1514
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: Like back to what we were saying, like, nobody give

1515
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 3: a fuck about what you got going on at home,

1516
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: what you got going on in your brain, your mental issue.

1517
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 3: It's it's an unfortunate reality. People don't give a fuck.

1518
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 3: You still gotta work, for sure. It's the harsh reality

1519
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 3: of life. Nobody cares that much. Nobody cares as much

1520
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 3: as you think they do.

1521
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 6: Show up the.

1522
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 3: Show, show up and do your job at the highest level.

1523
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: You know. That's it.

1524
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 4: That's a fact. One thing. Also, you're very vulnerable in

1525
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: your music.

1526
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: I feel like all great artists and hip hop, whether

1527
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: it's eminem whether it's not, or it's DMX rest in

1528
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 2: Peace Therapy, they always say.

1529
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 4: What's going on in their life.

1530
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1531
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: A lot of people resonated with that.

1532
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you have been.

1533
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: Very vocal about you, you know, with pills. Yeah, and

1534
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: can you talk about that as far as like, why

1535
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: is that important for you to say that? And what's

1536
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: that message to the to younger people, because obviously that's

1537
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: been a huge issue not just our community but all

1538
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: over the world. Noah, for sure in your generation specifically,

1539
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: So why was that important for you to really put

1540
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: that out there?

1541
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 3: Yet? Just because music is like my therapy more than anything,

1542
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: like even this next album, I feel like I'm pretty

1543
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: vulnerable and sometimes i'd be like, man, but I too

1544
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: real in that line, you know what I'm saying, Like

1545
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 3: I do, and it's like a real thing when you

1546
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: put like your heart and your soul. And that's why

1547
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate and I'm who's I think Erkabad. I'm

1548
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: a real artist and I'm sensitive about my shit, you

1549
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because it's like, imagine, it's putting

1550
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: all your heart and soul, man, to this this body

1551
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: of work into this music that you spent so much time,

1552
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 3: and you're putting all of these vulnerable things about yourself,

1553
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, a lot of times you

1554
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: won't even speak upon it until through the music, that's

1555
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 3: your outlet to speak for the world to judge. You

1556
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, it's a real thing, and it's

1557
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: no complaint, no woe was me, But it's like a

1558
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: real thing. It's some scary ass shit bro putting like

1559
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 3: your life and your deepest and your darkest, most vulnerable,

1560
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 3: most uh you know, most vulnerable transparent feelings within the music.

1561
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,839
Speaker 3: But as an artist, it's our job, you know, artists,

1562
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 3: we are the gatekeepers of time. You know what I'm saying. People,

1563
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: you remember moments, seeing very important moments in your life

1564
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: based off the music. You know what I'm saying, that

1565
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: was playing during that time. I remember ninth grade, good kid,

1566
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 3: Mad City came out, you know what I'm saying, and

1567
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 3: I related to that because I was the same shit

1568
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: being from Suitland, I was. I was a good kid,

1569
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But my homies is really

1570
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: on some foul you know, chanky on in real life,

1571
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: slim for real, jangsters for real. I never used that before, janksters,

1572
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: that's funny, but yeah, movement, yeah for sure, having a

1573
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: being able to maneuver in that environment, you know what

1574
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And like I said, it's always important as

1575
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: an artist to express yourself in your freest, most creative,

1576
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: most vulnerable, most transparent way, because people that's the easiest

1577
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 3: way to connect. You know, if you're saying some ship

1578
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: that ain't you, niggas can't hit niggas and see that ship.

1579
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying for that too, because like

1580
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: I said, just putting that message out there that you know,

1581
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: that's something that you did, but you're not glorifying it.

1582
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah at all.

1583
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: And it's like a lot of people can learn from that.

1584
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: I feel like people don't really give artists enough credit

1585
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: when it comes to that because it's like even me personally,

1586
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: I go through stuff.

1587
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 4: Even my mom won't know like.

1588
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 3: For sure, definitely till the music come out. Oh yeah, yeah,

1589
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying that. Till the music come out.

1590
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 4: Look, I ain't telling nobody like you know what I'm saying.

1591
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: But it's like artists they.

1592
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: Telling you don't heard by that word, be like that

1593
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: nobody funcked you like you think they do that. It's

1594
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: real life and real shit. It's real. It's a harsh reality.

1595
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 3: Like it's like artists. I feel like, man, so many

1596
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 3: artists be like so like I don't know because I'm

1597
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: not holy it than down like I said, And then grands.

1598
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: Before I say anything, I'll be like, I'm not holy

1599
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 3: it in down and in the grand scheme of things.

1600
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't know shit and I'm still learning. And I'll

1601
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: be the first to say that. But I feel like

1602
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 3: a lot of artists, man, I don't know because it's

1603
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: like I don't know. It's a weird balance. What was

1604
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 3: you about to say?

1605
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1606
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, it's just it takes

1607
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: a lot of courage to tell millions because really it's

1608
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: like you can find and it's like usher that confession's LP,

1609
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: Like that's soundtrack to life music. Like for sure, he's

1610
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: telling his deepest, darkest emotion secrets to twenty million people.

1611
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,440
Speaker 3: And sold twenty million records. Like that's a hard copy CDs,

1612
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 3: not stream equivalent.

1613
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 4: I don't think people realize how tough it is.

1614
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: I love that album to shout out the album that joint, man,

1615
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: I really like, is it eighty seven O one? That's

1616
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 3: the one before I love know what I'm saying. The

1617
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: one before that. I was just make sure that was

1618
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 3: the right numerica. That's my ship, Like you mind me?

1619
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: Like my folks got old. I ain't gonna get into it,

1620
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: but like my folks got old video of me singing

1621
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: like into a fucking flash, like like that album.

1622
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: I question your guy, big put you on the spot, okay,

1623
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: versus versus Chris Brown.

1624
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 3: Oh that's your guy, Yeah, Chris, that's that's my nigga.

1625
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, bro, because Chris Brown got some classes

1626
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: to a million. I gotta honestly, I can't give a

1627
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 3: solid answer without writing down the joint.

1628
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 5: Make it a little bit easier. What's Chris Brown's classic album?

1629
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: The first one?

1630
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 6: You think that's a classic for sure, it's a great album.

1631
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I like the Fame album me personally, this is

1632
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: all personal opinion. The Fame album was like really dope,

1633
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like that joint got some

1634
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: incredible songs.

1635
01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 6: If he just plays.

1636
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: But also, you got, bro, Chris Brown is still like

1637
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: twenty nine, Bro, he still got a legend and already

1638
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: a bro. He got co signed by Michael Jackson, bro

1639
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 3: and real since he's a I don't think we give

1640
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: him like his flowers. You know what I'm saying.

1641
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: But that's not a good comparison what you just did,

1642
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 2: because that's like saying, all right.

1643
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 3: You could the album. You could say like ell Madic.

1644
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: Is arguably the best album ever, even though we think

1645
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: it was written was better. But Drake got a hundred songs. Songs.

1646
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not denying now, I'm just saying.

1647
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm just saying difficult for any legendary territories, you gotta

1648
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 5: have a classic.

1649
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

1650
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: Album.

1651
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 4: What's Drake's classic album?

1652
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 6: Some people say, take care. I think Nothing was the

1653
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 6: same as his best.

1654
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: You think so? I like, Nothing was the same. That's Drake.

1655
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 3: If you're reading this, it's too late.

1656
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 6: That's that's a good one too.

1657
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: Nah. That was that came out my senior year, so

1658
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: I remember like listening to that jont faithfully, but Nothing

1659
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: was the same.

1660
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,520
Speaker 6: That's my favorite.

1661
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: Coming off the last record. Like you know what I'm

1662
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 3: saying that Tuskan Lether jonesesy.

1663
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 6: Some people say so far go the mixtape.

1664
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all like it's a subjective music. I never

1665
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: like to speak about other artists art publicly because it's

1666
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 3: all subjective. You know what I'm saying, And there is

1667
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 3: no right or wrong answer, you know what I'm saying.

1668
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 3: That's why I can't give you an usher versus Chris Brown.

1669
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be politically correct. Fuck that ship.

1670
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: But I just like I can't you know what I'm saying.

1671
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm huge. I'm one of the biggest Chris Brown fans.

1672
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: You'll find. Same with Usher and I, like I said,

1673
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: I have to really sit down and write it, you

1674
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1675
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: Shot the Swiss man. That's what they put together.

1676
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: Man, Now it's incredible. Swiss beats one of the ones too,

1677
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 3: Like just like you know, behind the scenes, he's one

1678
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,520
Speaker 3: of my mentors as well as for sure, like yeah.

1679
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: Shout to him and let me ask you about the

1680
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: real estate situation. So the stocks you went over your stocks?

1681
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: Who got you in the real estate?

1682
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: The same principle, Like just really it was just like

1683
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: it was all it was all one day, bro, it

1684
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 3: was just one day. It was not for real. It

1685
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 3: was a super productive day. Like it's a real dog.

1686
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: I just was super productive, dog, Like I turned my

1687
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: house into a factory on some real shit. My boy

1688
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: Ian be doing the clothes and get because I'm like, bro,

1689
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 3: my merch gotta be better, man. I got to make

1690
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: better high level merch for real dog. And so I

1691
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: bought like we got like downstairs. I really turned my

1692
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 3: house into an entire office and dash business thing. You

1693
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I got I got two studios.

1694
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: I got one upstairs, I got one downstairs. I got

1695
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 3: to sew a machine to my boy to work on

1696
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 3: this ship. You know what I'm saying. We got the

1697
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: kitchen is the fucking office, you know what I'm saying,

1698
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 3: where we're just talking about creative dope ideas and things

1699
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 3: of that nature. And so I became I made my

1700
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: house a factory, and I became like a person, like

1701
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: a real machine, you know what I'm saying. So it

1702
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 3: was like a very productive valve. I got the stocks,

1703
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 3: I gotta get bonds. I got to set up this IRA,

1704
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 3: and I gotta get some real estate.

1705
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 4: Dog.

1706
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: Real estate took a little longer because you know it's yeah,

1707
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: for sure, I got to find the right property, something

1708
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: that you like, that you believe in. Gotta find. You know,

1709
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: my mom is working on getting her real estate license

1710
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: right now because I'm buying so many properties. I need

1711
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 3: my mom to you know, be getting that Yeah, get

1712
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 3: that property man exactly.

1713
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: So that's dope.

1714
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1715
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 6: You we talked about one more thing.

1716
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 5: Go ahead, it's social activism, Okay, because I think people

1717
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 5: missed that. Yeah, and at twenty three, it's extremely impressive.

1718
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 6: Appreciate you were in Kentucky. Yeah for the Breonna Taylor situation.

1719
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 5: Well what compels you when inspired you to speak up

1720
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 5: and be a voice and be a presence.

1721
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned I just got that felony dismissed yesterday.

1722
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 3: I got a whole I had a whole felony for that.

1723
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 3: Like I had a felony with that, Yeah, for trying no,

1724
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 3: not for threatening an official like a because it was

1725
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: outside of the governor something like that. Yeah house and

1726
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 3: now the Attorney General House. And so they like I

1727
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 3: had all eighty of us, all eighty seven of us,

1728
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 3: Like they gave us all felonies, bro, which is fucking crazy. Dog.

1729
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: But you know, shout out to Mika Mallory uh until freedom.

1730
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: They're all she's like a leader in this time, you

1731
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, much needed leader and she has

1732
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: you know, she's really compassionate about it. She's been doing this.

1733
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy, man. I not knew her, but I met

1734
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 3: her before when I was like eighteen years old. It

1735
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: was like during the Filando Castile. So fucked up with

1736
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 3: so many eras of niggas getting killed by the police,

1737
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it was like around

1738
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 3: Michael Brown Filando Castile, But this was at a protest

1739
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 3: for Colin Kaepernick. Actually shout out my boy Colin Kaepernick,

1740
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 3: because he actually recommended me this financial advisor, Peter Barowski

1741
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 3: to handle like my extreme hot you know what I'm saying,

1742
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: like the trust, Yeah, yeah, exactly, So Colin Kaepernick actually

1743
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: recommended him to me, you know what I'm saying, So

1744
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 3: shout out my boy Cap. But I met her at

1745
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: a protest for Kaepernick like five years ago when I

1746
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: was in high school, you know what I'm saying. So

1747
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: it's really crazy how that came to be like a

1748
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 3: full circle moment. But as as you know, it's always

1749
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 3: been something that's been a part of me, you know

1750
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like I always I was like ten

1751
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 3: years old reading Huey P. Knew and reading Revolutionary Suicide.

1752
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 3: I read Wretched of the Earth. I was like young

1753
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 3: reading books on third Good Marshall, W. E. B. Duboy,

1754
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, d Boys, whichever however you said. But but yeah,

1755
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: it's just something that's always just been embedded like within

1756
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 3: my DNA, And the only difference is now I just

1757
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 3: have a platform, you know what I'm saying. And but

1758
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 3: but yeah, bro, I feel like as artists it's all responsibility,

1759
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 3: you know, and whatever feels It's like I think Kyrie

1760
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 3: Irvan's a real like like had Honcho what it called,

1761
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: like a real spearhead. More so when it comes to

1762
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: like activism and and being he's a he's an artist.

1763
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: I look at artists, respect artists. You know what I'm saying, Well,

1764
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: how he handle that rock and the jump shot? Like basketball?

1765
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 3: Niggas is artists for real, you know, especially that nigga

1766
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 3: in particular special on the court, off the court, way

1767
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 3: of thinking, mind, freedom to express himself, don't care what

1768
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: no one thinks. You know what I'm saying, He's the one.

1769
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: And when it comes to that, you know what I'm saying,

1770
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 3: But Kyrie, but yeah, as artists, And I say all

1771
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 3: that to say as artists because like I said, I

1772
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: consider him an artist. It's our job. We already gate

1773
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 3: keepers of time and it is our job to express

1774
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: the things that are going on, whether it be music

1775
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: through or in real life situations. You know what I'm

1776
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: saying like and only if it's something that you're actually

1777
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 3: compassionate about, don't do it because it's the cool shit

1778
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: to do, you know what I'm saying, or it's like

1779
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: politically correct that shit lame, you know what I'm saying, niggas.

1780
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fake believers make believers out there,

1781
01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and just doing it just

1782
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 3: for but like, this is something I've always been compassionate about,

1783
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And uh, the only like

1784
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: I said, some I've always been doing like I was

1785
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 3: at protest with Mike Brown Filando Castill, you know, as

1786
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 3: a as a kid. You know what I'm saying, like

1787
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 3: going out and doing it on my own. You feel

1788
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying and watching, Yeah, for sure. And the

1789
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: only difference is now just have a platform, you know.

1790
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, man, you had just dropped that felony though, dog,

1791
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 3: congrats on that. I appreciate it.

1792
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: In fact, man, Nah, I really enjoyed this conversation now

1793
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: is Yeah, this is one of my most enjoyable conversations.

1794
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: May you have a bright future ahead of you, man,

1795
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: extremely extremely smart young man. I mean music, I feel

1796
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: like that's just gonna be one of the things you're

1797
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 2: known for when it's all said and done, like show

1798
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: me like you have such so many different things that's

1799
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: ahead of you.

1800
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 3: So appreciate it.

1801
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work, man, and more importantly, keep

1802
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: keep educating. Keep because I feel like you're a leader

1803
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: and the message that you're putting out there, especially like

1804
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: on the financial literacy side since we're business podcast, it

1805
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: is much needed.

1806
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 4: It's much needed.

1807
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: Nah, definitely, and it's dope. Yeah, now we gotta man,

1808
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: we gotta collectively, we gotta do this again, Yeah for sure,

1809
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: but to like, yeah, we definitely gotta do this. I

1810
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 3: was thinking about an idea. I had an idea, but

1811
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 3: it wasn't all the way like flushed out yet. So

1812
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: I want to present it when it's like a fully

1813
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: high level, flushed out idea.

1814
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah I heard you heard you bad idea.

1815
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: That's all so Telle.

1816
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: What would you like to tell the people with some

1817
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: words of encouragement or wisdom or just like, you got

1818
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: a project coming out?

1819
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that? I forgot about that? Yeah? A lot

1820
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: of music? Yeah yeah, right right right, but yeah, just

1821
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: so I won't even call it the project, just a

1822
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: little four pack called just until essentially like just until

1823
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm done with this next album. You know what I'm saying.

1824
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: So this is a collection of high level Lucy's or

1825
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 3: just you know, I level songs that didn't make that

1826
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: that just didn't correlate to feel with the album. And

1827
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 3: you got q Thug Yeah for shore. Q Tip shout

1828
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 3: out Q Tip one of my mentors. For real, I

1829
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: got it. I got a lot of dope mentors within

1830
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: this hip hop ship. Yeah, no, for sure, but man,

1831
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 3: it's like it's a blessing. I don't take any of

1832
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: it for granted, bro, because it's it's a blessing. Man,

1833
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: I dreamed about this ship. I'm living my dream and

1834
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna continue to live my dream at the

1835
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 3: highest level and keep going to I'm all the way

1836
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 3: at the top and I won't stop. I'm relentless with

1837
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: this ship, you know what I'm saying. But yes, A

1838
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 3: slime Is is also like the one for real a

1839
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: real nigga at the highest level.

1840
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 6: Dougga Jackson, he is for real, for real.

1841
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he get his credit challenge, no, no, no,

1842
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: for sure, I don't think he get his credit as

1843
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 3: far as his influence man. He but I told him

1844
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 3: this personally to and I said, right now, he belongs

1845
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: in the rock and roll Hall of Fame a million percent.

1846
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: He if he stopped making music today, if Young Thug

1847
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 3: stopped making music today, he should be in the rock.

1848
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm already a legend if I ever leave for real.

1849
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: That was card two. That was in the card too.

1850
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: He said that, yep, so you can. You could compare

1851
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Young Thugs right now to like Little Wayne's card, like

1852
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: where he was at, Where Little Wayne was at in

1853
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: the card two.

1854
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 6: That was my only thing with the was the litl

1855
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 6: Wayne thing like that. He came on and I.

1856
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Think they were that, but you know, I was young,

1857
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: I was playing a major part. And he's been a culture.

1858
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 3: A million percents. And yeah, you you asked most of

1859
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 3: new artists who their favorite artists was, Horn spot them,

1860
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna say Thug in future A million percent, futures

1861
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: another one, future is another one eight number one albums,

1862
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, and and even more importantly that his

1863
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 3: influence and future be dropping them gyms as far as

1864
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 3: financial literacy and knowing how to move within the game is.

1865
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 3: While I was watching one of his interviews, with one

1866
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: of the like Atlanta local radio stations, and that nigga

1867
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 3: be dropping them gems for real all the time. Same

1868
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 3: same with Slime, Like same with Thug. He always dropped.

1869
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 2: Language too, But we got linked with both of those gentlemen. Yeah,

1870
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 2: shout a little bit. I feel like when I'm listening

1871
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: to you a little baby, and he's like, I'm not

1872
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: a goal, but I fit the description.

1873
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: I feel like you fit the description of future.

1874
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 6: I appreciate that. Say I ain't make a hundred million,

1875
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 6: I can chill.

1876
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 4: Yet he's another one.

1877
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 3: Not really noting. I met him like a couple of

1878
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: times in passing, but I don't know.

1879
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,480
Speaker 2: He's happy with the financial literacy the little baby.

1880
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Now it's it's an artist. And like I was saying before,

1881
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: like what's even more powerful than niggas doing songs together?

1882
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that that's that's dope too.

1883
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: That's cool too. But just like us as all young brothers,

1884
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 3: just having access to the information and capital to really

1885
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: be able to come together to like once spread the knowledge,

1886
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 3: spread the information and really increment like actual change within

1887
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: our personal communities, within our world with within whatever you know,

1888
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: just sharing the knowledge you know what I'm saying. Like

1889
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 3: I was saying before, It's just important. That's all I'm

1890
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 3: here to do. Like each one, teach one. As soon

1891
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: as I learn it, I'm gonna say something. You know

1892
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying about it. Tell somebody, give somebody the game.

1893
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: You don't the game is to be told.

1894
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 6: So you know some game, go to your hood and

1895
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 6: give it right back.

1896
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,839
Speaker 3: Alwa, it's necessary for real. All my all, my brothers

1897
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: got that Neil stock Via cash Shot. Actually you can't

1898
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: get Neo cash shot.

1899
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 6: The other one Robin Hood.

1900
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Just so niggas can't fact.

1901
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 4: Don't say I don't say I didn't tell you.

1902
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 6: They're being in comments. They will definitely be the.

1903
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 3: Appreciate a real life sure Troy Housekeeping.

1904
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 6: Yeah shot.

1905
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 5: Everybody on Patreon dot com, y'all know that's our product.

1906
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Speaker 5: To paid program obviously Tier five members you have access

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Speaker 5: to E y L University, the number one place for

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Speaker 5: everything business. Uh, we have over seven eight thousand people

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Speaker 5: in there. Shout to all our earners and shout everybody

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Speaker 5: supporting the merch. Shout out to the merch team.

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Speaker 6: Bam Smithy out there merch going crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wett I think we got some stuff over there,

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Speaker 5: some high level for sure as important.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: We greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Man, once again, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate having me Mike who worked behind the scenes to

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Speaker 2: put this together for a couple of weeks and like

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Speaker 2: I said, I thoroughly enjoyed this.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to developing relationship and watching your growth more importantly,

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Speaker 2: watching your growth.

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Speaker 4: I feel confident that you're gonna be successful.

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Speaker 3: We don't remember the many years it's gonna be. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a classic interview that nigga's going back like

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Speaker 3: ten years from now. For real. It's just crazy niggas

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Speaker 3: gonna go back ten years from now and be like,

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Speaker 3: whoa this nigga said this nigga doun did everything that

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Speaker 3: he said he was going to do.

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Speaker 4: That's a fact.

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Speaker 6: We flew out here when we confirmed that we were

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Speaker 6: gonna have this interview. We're going to LA for two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: didn't have anything else on this plan.

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Speaker 3: We had to plan a lot of stuff around we got.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate Noah, we had to do this in person.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't be in a zoom. This hope for sure,

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Speaker 3: this hole I've been avoiding the zoom interviews like I

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Speaker 3: just can't do it man, like for real, I appreciate,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. It's a good interview. Virginity breaker. Well read.

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Speaker 6: Back in the game it celibate for be back now,

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Speaker 6: let's get it.

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Speaker 4: All right, God, thank you for rocking us. Well, see

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Speaker 4: you next week.

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Speaker 3: Peace please, my graduates from my school being forced bad

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Speaker 3: drop bags, drop drop bag, drop bag drops.

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