WEBVTT - Do You Even Need A Man? with Mary Beth Barone... 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>He guys, we are here at Are you a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>With Mary Beth?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so surreal, you have no I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know if I could even count the number of times

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched Sex.

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<v Speaker 2>And the City all the way through, you couldn't even count.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I do a rewatch once a year, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just finished my recent rewatch maybe like four months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when I went back to watch the episode

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about, I almost let it keep playing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was like, I can't do this. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love to hear that one of my favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you well.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel, as I said to you when you

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<v Speaker 1>got here, that I feel like you and Benny are

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the torch forward with Overcompensating and all your comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and all your everything that you're doing. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're the next generation, like you know, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff, like out there pushing the envelope talking.

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<v Speaker 4>About the issues.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's so perfect that you are here to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about boy girl, boy girl. Wish people do it a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>First, I weant talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Abo a little bit, and I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>overcompensating because I'm so so excited. And when I first

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<v Speaker 1>had Bennie on, I hadn't seen the whole season, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because my niece had told me to have him on.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, have Benny drama. I don't know Benny.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do some research to like catch up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Wow, these kids are amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>We're you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>We had good role models with you guys, because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like Sex and the City was so formative. And

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<v Speaker 3>actually I remember where I was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>saw Sex in the City. I was born in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was a little bit like, you know, mature

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<v Speaker 3>for me as like a kid when it was sharing.

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<v Speaker 3>But then in high school I had to sleep over

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<v Speaker 3>at my friend Julia's house. It was like all the

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<v Speaker 3>girls were all still friends to this day, and she

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<v Speaker 3>had DVDs of like the fourth season or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>we just dove in and I was like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this show is going to change my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And ever since then, i've yeah, I guess that must

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<v Speaker 3>have been like ten years ago. It's just been such

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<v Speaker 3>like a mainstay constant for me, and watching the movies

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and then and just like that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just been so fun to follow the characters. But I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like Sex and the City was such like a

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<v Speaker 3>progress I mean at the time. And obviously there are

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<v Speaker 3>issues that we would handle differently today, of course, but

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<v Speaker 3>really presenting the mainstream with these things that were happening

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<v Speaker 3>in New York absolutely maybe didn't feel so accessible at

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that we thought when we started it

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety eight, which is, you know, bizarre to say

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, that it would be like a little niche,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we all related to it. Obviously, we

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<v Speaker 1>were in our thirties, and you know, this was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of our life. I mean, it wasn't exactly our life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like an elevated, more intense version orund but

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<v Speaker 1>it was so exciting to do it, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>we never thought it would have widespread appeal.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you live in New York at the time or.

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<v Speaker 2>Back and forth?

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<v Speaker 4>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Rutgers and then I then I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>and lived in like first I lived in Jersey City.

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<v Speaker 2>Not exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, sorry, sorry, okay, I know, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>how it was right and not any means necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you live in Williamsburg was very very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopoken at the time wasn't really cool though it later

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<v Speaker 1>got cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was kind of like the financial.

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<v Speaker 4>Bros were there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a waitress at that restaurant right. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever been over there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you would get off the Path train, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant right there, and they would all just come

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<v Speaker 1>in their suits and yeah, like horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I would, yeah, every day. So they're still like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they've been somewhat diluted, though I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's my experience has changed, but like it

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<v Speaker 1>used to seem that the entire city was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yes, you're right, there's much more segment. It's much

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<v Speaker 3>more segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the hipsters where you are. You know, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>the art student as well. We've got the college students.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the college students.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is because the last season we

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in the village when my kids were there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the students are living the life.

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<v Speaker 4>They are in the lap of luxury down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I think a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>How my life would be different if I went to NYU,

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<v Speaker 3>But I went to like an information session there because

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<v Speaker 3>that was my top choice for a while. I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up into Boston College and dropping out after two years,

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<v Speaker 3>but I went to this information session and one of

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<v Speaker 3>the admissions people was like, we just know if someone

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<v Speaker 3>is like a fit here, and we know if they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, And just that vibe really turned me off.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't even end up applying I was.

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<v Speaker 4>So perfectly a fit.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know when you're just like and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for saying that, But you know when you just here

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<v Speaker 3>one thing where you're like, no, I actually don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I do totally. I do totally.

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<v Speaker 1>That was how I felt about Rutgers, because Rutgers they

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<v Speaker 1>it was an acting program, and they they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one gets in, and I was like, okay, great

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<v Speaker 1>that's for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I almost.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually tried to sign up for drama when I

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<v Speaker 3>won at Boston College, and the teacher was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>think the class is too full, but you can come

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<v Speaker 3>to the first day I meet everyone, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>did that, and then the second class I walked in

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<v Speaker 3>and she goes, it's full, and then I had to

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<v Speaker 3>walk out.

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<v Speaker 4>With my head hanging though.

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<v Speaker 2>That's horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>That was I just think there's so many ways I

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<v Speaker 3>could have found this, But I'm glad it happened the

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<v Speaker 3>way that it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it always happens the way that should write.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's never easy, no, no, for no one.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, it's been a tough I mean it's yeah, I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, stand up is to me like the hardest, hardest, hardest,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what made you want to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I think I've met. It's the type

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<v Speaker 3>of mental illness that I have. It's really specific. And

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<v Speaker 3>I started taking improv classes when I had like a

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<v Speaker 3>full time job and I lived with my boyfriend at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. I had a very quiet, sort of contained life.

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<v Speaker 3>And then once I took improv, I just decided I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to try stand up. And then after that first

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<v Speaker 3>time I did it, I was like, oh God, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I found the thing I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To do, like the drug.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a high and I totally blew up

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<v Speaker 3>my whole life and then just decided to like pursue comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the beginning, you have that right level of

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<v Speaker 3>like delusion where you're like this could actually happen for me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just tried to apply all the like type

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<v Speaker 3>a personality that I have to this career, right and

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm ten years in and things are going well

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<v Speaker 3>it works out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I love so much about you

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<v Speaker 1>and Betty. First of all, you're super talented, but second

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the way that you have made it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you guys met, which I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, but it's very much inspiring and exciting to

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<v Speaker 1>me that it has worked out for you guys, because

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I think you're super committed, which everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when people ask me when they're young, like what

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<v Speaker 2>should I do? And I'm like, uh, you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>bad do you want it? Like that's really the key.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's a lot of banging your head against the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>It really for years and years and years, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have no money. It's embarrassing, and you're begging people to

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<v Speaker 3>like support you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't love it, like if you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you would risk everything for it, then you really can't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. I mean, I'm sure there are some people

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<v Speaker 3>who've sort of stumbled into it and everything's worked out

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<v Speaker 3>for them.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's very very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't I don't know anyone like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think right now of anyone like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love you guys because you as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>like our generation, like we all. I mean, Cynthia and

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah were child actors and Kim had been acting for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time too, But like I went to college

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<v Speaker 1>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to be fa it isn't me no good?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are the kind of insanity is that?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, studying it?

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<v Speaker 1>But I know, right, I mean the thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>good about where I went is that it was very

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<v Speaker 1>very challenging and they cut people every semester. What so

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, Like five hundred people auditioned to be

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty of us got in.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes me five graduated, and you were one of

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<v Speaker 4>the fives.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, wow, Oh you're not going to stop me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I would, right, that would be a lot for me

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<v Speaker 4>to handle mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I mean you have handled ten years of

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<v Speaker 1>this business, so it's the same. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that the weird, weird hardness of it was good prep right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it made no sense, right, Like you couldn't you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You just be like what what? What happened?

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<v Speaker 4>They cut what?

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<v Speaker 1>And like at one point they told me I had

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<v Speaker 1>to lose weight. This is during college, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh god, you know good. It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>good because the real world is much.

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<v Speaker 2>Worse a nightmare. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's brutal, especially when you start like working your way

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit and you start to hear the

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<v Speaker 3>conversations that are happening behind the scenes and you see

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<v Speaker 3>just how brutal it Isn't right, I guess what's almost

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<v Speaker 3>nice about social media is like all the meanest things

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<v Speaker 3>anyone could ever say to you, you got to you

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<v Speaker 3>got a notification totally hey this person said this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm like, whatever an agent or exec could

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<v Speaker 3>say about me, I would love for them to try

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with something new because I would just

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<v Speaker 3>be interested.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, definitely, that's so true. That's your true.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not thought about that. I mean, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I really like I at one point when so,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm doing the podcast, so I'm looking at more

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and then the show ended, as you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>just like that, and I was so confused by it,

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<v Speaker 1>and also like, you know, everyone was hating on us,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we announced we were over and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, yeah, And then I was like, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting, like what's actually happening, you know, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the there's like such a weird vibe out there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Sir Jessca, I was like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, and she said, why are you reading

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<v Speaker 1>those comments? Don't read the comments? And I said, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. It's kind of not once you

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<v Speaker 1>get in. I mean for us, like we've been through

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<v Speaker 1>it like every which way, and she's very strong about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't Cynthia reads everything. Yeah, everyone finds their own way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Cynthia feels like she learns from it, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is amazing. Yeah, she's very tough. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>so tough, but I am really curious. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>It is that weird thing. I mean, I think people

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<v Speaker 3>love being mean on the internet. That's like one of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why we started our podcast, just because we

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to celebrate things and we wanted to we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about things that we loved in a genuine way.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so much easier to obviously have a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>where you're snarky about everything and you're just on what's

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<v Speaker 3>being made and you insult people's work. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>what people don't realize is like, yeah, if you are

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<v Speaker 3>going to complain about something and say it's bad, like

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<v Speaker 3>it might not be around anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, I mean, I would like people to

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<v Speaker 1>hear my best saying that, because I feel I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there is this weird I mean, I assume that

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like the times that we're living in, right,

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<v Speaker 1>people are so uncomfortable and we don't know what is

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<v Speaker 1>happening at any given time, right, So it's much safer

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<v Speaker 1>to complain about a TV show, right than it is

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the bigger issues, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>get that, I get that, But if you're the people

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<v Speaker 1>making the TV show, it's hard to be yelled at

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<v Speaker 1>continually and told that you don't know what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>and that that person in wherever their houses knows your

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<v Speaker 1>character better than you, which you know is interesting. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we were trying to make a different show with the

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<v Speaker 1>same character.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, and that's how I approached it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the same universe, but the characters obviously have

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<v Speaker 3>changed because they're in totally different phases of their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like, again, the show tried to tackle

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<v Speaker 3>topics like, you know, you having an on binary child.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like or Charlotte having an on binary child. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what you mean, it's I just felt like, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 3>were always going to hold it to I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>hold reboots in anything like that to such a different

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<v Speaker 3>standard because of the nostalgia. But I just to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, you know, once again, same with the original,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I didn't necessarily I wouldn't make the same choices.

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<v Speaker 4>As the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was watching that every single week, and every

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<v Speaker 3>single friend that I talked to, conversations would start with,

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<v Speaker 3>did you see in just like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like it was musty TV?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah thirty, I'm thirty four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. You're in the third thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, put it that way, you're in the thirty See,

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<v Speaker 1>we were, And that's part of what's weird about streaming.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how you guys feel and overcompensating,

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<v Speaker 1>but back in the olden days. Not so much with

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<v Speaker 1>HBO because we were our own We were like paving

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<v Speaker 1>the road or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were new.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you, you kind of knew who was watching streaming.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like, I don't know. The only people you're

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<v Speaker 1>aware of is who's complaining, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, and he was posting clips and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chopping it up and right. Do you feel that way

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<v Speaker 3>about overcompensating, Yeah, I think it's just it's tough when

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the streamers don't really tell you how

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<v Speaker 3>many people or or anything like that. Now that I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers get so big at a certain point, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even conceptualize that many people, but I know

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<v Speaker 3>how many people are reaching out and posting about it

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<v Speaker 3>and making fan edits and stuff like that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, yeah, it's also, for whatever reason, the criticisms

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<v Speaker 3>always resonate with like sticking your brain more than the

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<v Speaker 3>people who love it, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well, also just feel that the people who

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<v Speaker 1>love it, if they're your friends, of course you're assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that they are just you know, biased, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily hear from the people in the world who

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<v Speaker 1>love it because they don't post about loving it right,

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<v Speaker 1>only the angry people post it seems. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like with overcompensating. So okay, First of all, how'd

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<v Speaker 1>you meet Benny?

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<v Speaker 3>So? Bennie and I actually met at a stand up show.

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<v Speaker 3>This was in yeah, pre pandemic. We met.

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<v Speaker 4>We were booked on the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Show in Bushwick, Oh my God, a bar called Our

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<v Speaker 3>Wicked Lady, and it was we always say, there were

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<v Speaker 3>more comics on the lineup than people in the audience.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very small show and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Just really liked each other's sets, and he stopped me

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<v Speaker 3>on the way out and we sort of had this

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<v Speaker 3>like moment of connection. And then we were booked on

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<v Speaker 3>another show together like a week later, and he said

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<v Speaker 3>he needed someone for a sketch that he was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like absolutely, Like you know, that was

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<v Speaker 3>a time when it was say yes to everything, and

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<v Speaker 3>then also if it's someone that you think is really funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, well, of course, like I'll be there, what time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then it just sort of organically grew from there,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we had this opportunity to do our first

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<v Speaker 3>podcast together, which was canceled.

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<v Speaker 4>First podcast in history to ever be canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 4>All the Obsessed. Oh, which was for Spotify year.

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<v Speaker 2>What year?

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<v Speaker 3>This was during the pandemic? Okay, so it was twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty podcasts. Yeah, that was sort of the beginning of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So then that got canceled and we decided to start

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<v Speaker 3>our own thing called Ride Right. And so yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>been We've done a lot of different projects together and

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<v Speaker 3>it's always so fun and it's just nice to have

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<v Speaker 3>someone in this industry who you genuinely feel like so

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<v Speaker 3>happy or and so much love and like we support

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's isolating, it's so beautiful and so rare, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I see it because we I had been obviously by

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<v Speaker 1>myself in my career right previous to Sex and City,

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<v Speaker 1>and then because we were together and we went through

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<v Speaker 1>the whole experience together, you had someone to check in

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<v Speaker 1>with about the insanity and the difficulties and whatever was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, right, And it's something that I'm just so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for because I see other actresses because generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>you're alone. You're very alone, especially as a female, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you'll be on a set and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be all guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, and so few shows go for that

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<v Speaker 3>many seasons now, right, So it's like you guys really

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<v Speaker 3>had like a family on set, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a which was what was so great to get

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<v Speaker 2>back together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so so great.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did the movies and Morocco and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've had like quite the life, quite the life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been incredible, and obviously I just wanted to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know whatever, Right now, we're just taking a

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<v Speaker 1>little pause. That's a break at break.

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<v Speaker 5>If whatever's next, I'll be there, thank you, I'll be there, Sport.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very, very very excited for the second season. If

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<v Speaker 2>I can't compensate.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so fun. We're writing it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Marbeth came to us before where she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>the writer's room a whole day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so exciting, it's so fun. It's such a crazy

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do for work. Like we just sit there

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<v Speaker 3>and like pitch what we think is funny, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You find that out when you say it out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is like sometimes it's a funny

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<v Speaker 1>idea and then on the page it might not be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, all right, let's talk about so you

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<v Speaker 2>and Benny.

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<v Speaker 1>Meat, Yeah, at a stand up and so you're both

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<v Speaker 1>doing stand up and.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he already doing his YouTube thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we've been doing crtches online and some character stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and so, yeah, we met at this very interesting time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like twenty I think it was twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>or twenty nineteen. But basically when I first started, there

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<v Speaker 3>were so many like clear milestones that a comedian could

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<v Speaker 3>hit in their career to be like, I'm on my

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<v Speaker 3>way to what my dreams are, my goals. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it felt like with the pandemic and then the strikes

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<v Speaker 3>like so many of these, so many of these like

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<v Speaker 3>cornerstones of comedy just sort of like went away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's been really interesting to see like people

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<v Speaker 3>have to build their own career paths and like Benny

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<v Speaker 3>was such a trailblazer in that respect. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think his being able to pivot to like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>traditional legacy media gives a lot of people hope who

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<v Speaker 3>started online or even you know, even me.

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<v Speaker 2>He gives me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like there is there are ways, there are ways,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's extremely talented, so it's not just like anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, of course, but I think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the commitment and the persevering through the different things and

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<v Speaker 1>also just using your head right because you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>super smart and you're seeing opportunities to get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It gives me hope, you know. And I saw Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick and I was like, you've got to meet Betting.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I've met at me. He's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had like a whole love fest, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so nice because Michael Patrick was also a

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<v Speaker 1>stand up. You know, he was, Yes, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>stand up, possibly not husually a successful stand up right

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<v Speaker 1>where you would know his name, but he was out

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<v Speaker 1>there grinding, going to the clubs doing all the things. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when he was wearing like plaid shirts. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from Pennsylvania, and he had the curly hair and like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a whole different time, a whole different different vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>very extremely different vibe. But he worked and worked and

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<v Speaker 1>worked at it and then started writing I think, like

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<v Speaker 1>punch up jokes for sitcoms and then eventually was hired

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<v Speaker 1>on Murphy Brown and won an Emmy on Murphy Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>which was you know, trailblazing in the eighties slash nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and then obviously we got him on the

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<v Speaker 1>first season of our show Sex and City, thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, he's been the visionary, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Darren's vision is about putting things together at the

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<v Speaker 1>right time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Producers where he can put the pieces together really brilliantly

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<v Speaker 1>like someone else and kind of feel the zeitgeisty type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So he knew Candice and he optioned her book, but

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<v Speaker 1>then he brought Michael in because Michael knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>write jokes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because we didn't. The show is so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's surreal because you see these names on

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<v Speaker 3>your TV as you're watching the shows, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>you meet the people in real life, it's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, like I've watched you for so many hours,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like the comedy of the show. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there was so much criticism of just like

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<v Speaker 3>having these sexually empowered women on TV back when the

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<v Speaker 3>show came out, but I think also just the comedy

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<v Speaker 3>of it all gets overlooked sometimes, where I'm like, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, the comedic performances are genius, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is really difficult to like have these and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's something we always try to do in Overcompensating,

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<v Speaker 3>just have these really earned art fault moments, but also

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<v Speaker 3>the comedy of it all. And sometimes it is physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it is someone like having to swallow a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of fish and then going to throw it up at

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<v Speaker 3>a Charlie XCX concert, which was very fun, which is

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<v Speaker 3>very funny. But I think it's you don't see as

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<v Speaker 3>many shows that are able.

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<v Speaker 1>To try or even trying. I think it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>hard thing to do. And that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I did love about our show, and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rare to you kind of in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 1>have to earn that opportunity to even make that show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And then I think actually executing that show

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<v Speaker 1>is so hard. And that's what I love about the

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<v Speaker 1>first season of over Compensating. That you start and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fun, it's interesting, and you're like, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? Is it going to come out as you

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, And then by the time we get

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<v Speaker 1>to your episode, it's so deep but also so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but so earned, and the whole time you've been wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's up with her?

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<v Speaker 3>At least I was know that people had a very

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<v Speaker 3>strong reaction to Grace in the first few episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>I think because the way it was written was like.

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<v Speaker 3>You you do really peel back the layers on all

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<v Speaker 3>the characters this season progresses, so I think people just

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<v Speaker 3>saw like, oh, she's a bitch for no reason. But

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<v Speaker 3>then it was so like expertly done that once we

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<v Speaker 3>go home and we see more of her interacting with

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<v Speaker 3>even like her the character of her boyfriend, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>really start to understand, like what is motivating her.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, she's in some ways like the Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because in the beginning kind of underwritten a very

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<v Speaker 1>recognizable character.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you're like, oh, I think I know her, but

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<v Speaker 2>why is she so uptight? Because you're like, why is

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<v Speaker 2>she so unhappy? Like that's interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I felt, right, And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they're going to give her more, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was watching by myself in the nighttime, right

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<v Speaker 1>when the kids are And then it was just such

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful payoff when you did finally get to understand

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<v Speaker 1>and see and also divert a bit from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the campus, and yeah, it took a lot of guts,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to do that in your first season to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to write that, and then you so beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>acted it, and it was so you were so rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for her, you know, and it's just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see the second season.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of fun things in story. Yeah, it's I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Benny's so in the zone right now too,

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<v Speaker 3>Like everything he's sending us to look at is so

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<v Speaker 3>funny and so beautiful and it is so personal to him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think there everyone in the room and on

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<v Speaker 3>the show on set, everyone feels a lot of like

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<v Speaker 3>care for the story, yes as well you should, and

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<v Speaker 3>playing the characters. One thing Benny always talks about with

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<v Speaker 3>the casting process is like playing these characters with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of respect for who they are, not making them

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<v Speaker 3>these like reductive, sort of dumb college kids, which I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you guys also did on Sex and the City.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's so easy to put those four main

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<v Speaker 3>characters into their little boxes, but you really feel the

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<v Speaker 3>depth and like the complexities, especially as the show goes on,

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, yeah, it just feels like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of TV shows and not to I mean I watched

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<v Speaker 3>so much TV too, and some TV shows they don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to go so deep.

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<v Speaker 4>But like the ones I go back to those ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Great a great well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for us, we never thought we were in

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<v Speaker 1>our boxes. I mean that's the thing. As an actor,

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you have to think bigger and deeper. And yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>never I mean everyone else is going to do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, write and interpret it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's also been a lot of reflection on

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<v Speaker 3>the show in the in the past few years, people

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 3>from different generations finding it. It's amazing, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's great and everyone can take what they want from it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I get very defensive of the characters. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think you don't get it. Maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes people don't get it. I mean certainly

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<v Speaker 1>with them, just like that. People sometimes got it, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get it. And I think a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>had to do with how old they were, right, But

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you're young and you got it, so you never know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the first show, and I think also Les

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you're saying perspective, you gain perspective over time and for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in the beginning, we were like the Girls

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<v Speaker 1>Show at HBO, you know, and we were the unseerious.

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.480
<v Speaker 1>We were a big hit. Not not originally, but like say,

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<v Speaker 1>by season three, which is the episode we're watching, we

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<v Speaker 1>were I think we'd won our first Golden Globe, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, And we got nominated for an Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>that year, which we.

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<v Speaker 2>Never thoughtould happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got credit for a certain kind of success.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Sopranos was like.

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<v Speaker 4>The serious, like prestigie whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And definitely prestigie. I mean we were prestige because we

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<v Speaker 1>were on HBO. We could say whatever we wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>It's prestige. To me, Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Prestige now, That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of gained I think it gained importance. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's the right word. It gained something

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<v Speaker 1>in time which has been so rewarding.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it also feels like, I mean I was a

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<v Speaker 3>kid at the time, but it was sort of around

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<v Speaker 3>the same era as like the Spice Girls and all

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 3>these female pop stars coming up, and I feel like

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 3>there was this sort of I call it Spice Girls feminism,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just this thing of like girl power, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel like maybe it coincided with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, really, it's most definitely most huge audience, Sir Jessica.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she'll be mad at me for

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<v Speaker 1>saying this, but she used to play that Spice Girls

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<v Speaker 1>CD in the makeup trailer like over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was a lot. It was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she would leave, and then Cynthia would put

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<v Speaker 1>on like, oh my god, Gypsy Rosie like like like

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<v Speaker 1>who's that belting lady on the Broadway like in the

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>forties or fifties, like the original Gypsy Rosley Thank you.

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And Cynthia would put on an Ethel Murman, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny now, I know, and you just be

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<v Speaker 1>like oh. And then sometimes if they both left, Kim

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and I would put on classical because we just needed

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to chill, you know, make.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 4>A palate cleanser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need a little palate cleanser. It was a

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>lot going on because we also we had to head

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<v Speaker 1>out on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Street, right, I mean filming in the in the bustling.

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 2>In the middle New York, excited in the.

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 4>It must or it must have been crazy.

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy in a good way. It added it

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>added a lot.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I think when you go on to a sound stage,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Do you guys film out in the

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<v Speaker 1>world in Toronto?

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we do. We have some in studio stuff and

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 3>then some that's like on location.

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 2>As they say, yes, location, but I would.

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Say sex and the city for Benny and I, they're

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 3>real people to us, like we talk about it as

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.919
<v Speaker 3>if we know these people. We have a joke on

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 3>our podcast that Alexander Petrowski died of COVID because he

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 3>refused to wear a mask. Don't you think he would

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 3>We wrote a fake obituation for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I mean I I wouldn't even say that out

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>loud because I do not want Barishnikov to die, right

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.199
<v Speaker 1>and like for me, I can't separate. I get it,

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it, see Like for me, Petrovsky and I

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>have only re seen the episode where we meet him.

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember why I watched that one.

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 3>That whole stretch is like the way they reveal that

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 3>he is like kind of a nightmare.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't even remember gut wrenching.

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember when she when.

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 3>He cancels on meeting you guys, and then you go

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>there to meet him at a studio and he's so

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 3>fucking cranky.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't remember this.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 3>They show up and he's like working on his light

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 3>installation or whatever. And you know, Samantha's wearing an afro

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 3>in the scene because she has cancer at the time.

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.239
<v Speaker 3>It's I mean, that whole stretch is like, it's so

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.919
<v Speaker 3>And that was when the show really felt more like

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 3>a movie, like The Last Reason, because it was like

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 3>a I think they did two half seasons it.

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<v Speaker 1>We really did one season and then they cut it

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<v Speaker 1>up because I didn't want to pay us more.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's awesome, yes, and I love that.

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 3>But it really was just like it's so just it

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 3>was stunning, and I think so many ways we experience

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>that of just like there's this guy that is when

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>you're alone together, it feels like just like magic, of course,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 3>but then when you bring in your own life you

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<v Speaker 3>just see how wrong it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't wait. It's really be interesting, very bath

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>that part. I have like really clear memories of some things.

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Some things I have no memory. What's so crazy?

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Ever, because we never slept we basically filmed all night long,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>every night, almost yeah, right till the sun came up,

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>so like you're just not in your right mind. And

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>so some things are really like for instance, the episode

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna watch Boy Girl, Boy Girl, because Alanis Morrisett

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>was on, I was very excited, yes, and also Sarah

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Jessca was very nervous about the kiss. So I went

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>down there. I was not working, but I went down

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>there to be like moral support. But then because Alantis

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>was there and we were trying to like keep it chill,

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>not overreact, you know whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how we did it honestly.

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Right because also like she's really young, like she must

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>have been at the height of like the whole thing.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't even I don't even know how she ended

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>up on her show.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure it was because it was a

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 4>massive hit, I guess.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like did we know someone who knew her?

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Like how did it happen?

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 3>It's such a funny cameo because it's like very small,

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 3>so small, so you're like, oh my god, that'ss Morse.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and like baby Alanis morris said with the

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>little bread like I love her so much. I can't

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>even I can't anyway, I went down there, but then

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>there were so many people in that party scene that

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>it was like kind of like like overwhelming, and I

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to add to it, so I hung back.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>But Sartus was also really nervous because this is not

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>something that she would be doing right, and it was Atlantis.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>It was a lot going on. So I went down there.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Why did I bring this up? I don't know.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 4>You were up all night.

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I was up all night as always, But also like

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>we were in the bubble.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I was thinking of, Like you

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't really have other I don't feel like I was

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>tethered to normal life in any way during that time.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Like in the beginning, it was on and off, right,

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>like when you're filming, you're in the bubble, But once

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>we really got going, you were just in the bubble

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>all the time.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you guys did so many episodes for most season,

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, I would imagine some things You're like,

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I just.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 4>Don't remember that. I don't sometimes I remember something filmed

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 4>in for.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Vivid, And also rewatching is so fascinating because of course

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're in it, remember it. One way because you

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>remember what was happening on the set and whether you

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like the actor you didn't or whatever, it was right,

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and then now when you look back on it, like

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like when I watch myself in this episode with Donovan

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Leach trying to be the man in the photograph, it's

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>just fucking fascinating and so different than how I remembered it.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>It's bizarre. I mean, Charlotte is full of surprises.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>She is, and I think that.

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I really do feel like, depending on the day,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm one of the four, just depends on the day.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Really, wait, so all four are incorporated in this.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 4>I love it. I really think so of it because

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm very Type A.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 3>One thing that I think for Charlotte, what I really

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>identify with is she's Type A and she's always willing

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>to put her heart on the line. As many times

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 3>as she is, like, you know, not even rejected, but

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>as many times as things don't work out. When that

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 3>next thing presents itself, she's ready to really like throw

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>herself into it, and I really identify with that.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Also, there was.

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>This one moment where I think, you say, like I've

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>been dating men for.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Ten years, where is he fifteen years where is he?

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 4>And I think about that line read all the time.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>And I also think like Charlotte is certainly you know,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>there are moments of judgment, but I also think it's

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>because she is maybe has the less. She just hasn't

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>met as many people. And then when she meets I

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 3>think she is very open minded. And I'm also judgmental

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>and open minded at the same time. Well, that's because

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Gemini, so I can be both. And I

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>get it, you know, from Samantha's perspective, like the sexual

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 3>empowerment I think is really important, and just showing a

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>woman that her age is not limiting her and she

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 3>dresses or what choices she's making. Yes, and Carrie of

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 3>course being a little selfish at times and.

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Being a writer. That's how I feel I am.

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>And then Miranda being work obsessed and thinking she can

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 3>do her job just as good as a man, if

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>not better.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I mean good.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Think about having those characters on TV. For me as

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 3>a high school student, I'm like, I can be anything.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 4>That was really what I felt like. I love it.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's critiques of it where I'm like, sure, whatever,

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>But to me, I don't see that.

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 4>I see it. I don't see how it limited anyone's worldview.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>I think, if anything, I mean, of course, when I

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 3>look at it just like that, obviously it's wonderful that

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a more diverse cast and we're seeing people who

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>have very different experiences. But for me at the time,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>it was it felt like a lot of different experiences,

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 3>and I.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Think it was for television at the time, a much

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>broader view of what it meant to be a woman,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>what it meant to be a woman in the world,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and your choices.

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm thankful for that.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was nice to get to do even

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a broader view in and just like that. And then

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you and I were talking briefly before we started. We

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>said we would wait till we got here. You feel

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that the ending of just like that, that Carrie should

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>find the love you want Carrie to.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 4>That's what I want because I'm a hopeless romantic.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And also I think having a life full of beautiful friendships.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I have right now in my family that

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I love. But of course I still want to find

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 3>a partner. And I just you mentioned and there was

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 3>criticism when the first series ended about you all being

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 3>paired off and.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>People were big mad Marybeth.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Those people are the same people that when I talk

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 3>about wanting a partner, they say to me, like, you

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>don't need one.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, but I want one.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, those are two very different things. Yeah, and why

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't you.

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>We've watched these characters pursue romantic love and their friendships

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>flourish at the same time. But I still want to

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 3>see them achieve what.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>They want, right.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that might be one of the interesting points.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure because I don't really have closure

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>on it, as I was saying, And I haven't even

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>watched the last two because I'm just in denial, right,

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And I hope someday that we will come back and

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>do something.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>But I do feel for Carrie.

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>If you look at Carrie, because obviously this whole new

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>thing about her being selfish, this was not something that

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we thought about at the time or would have said

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>at the time.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Also, make she's the main character, absolutely.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that we thought of at the

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>time was that we wanted her to be complex, and

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of unheard of in a woman main character, right,

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Like as a woman main characters that you're supposed to be,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Flirty and sweet.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And the rom comes of the nine choices exactly make

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>good choices or if you make a bad choice, then

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>regret it and rethink it and change it. Whereas we

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>were just ongoing storytelling in a really you know, free way.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>It's great and HBO almost said nothing And.

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 4>It feels like real people because they're making mistakes.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that's what we wanted.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And it didn't make any sense to us, at least

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, like when the whole Narcissists Carried Things started,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>which I feel like was during COVID or at least

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>when I saw it.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Pop had way too much time, y'all. Don't need to

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 3>be thinking about sex and the city that much.

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed the show fun.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I find it all fascinating, the way the conversation changes

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>over time, right, And so there was this time of like,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>we don't like Carrie, and I was like, well, that's

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>bizarre and interesting.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we need Carrie to go through all this.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>To have a show exactly, you know, and movies and

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>then another show. But I do know what you're saying

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like people, I'm single, You know, and

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>people are always very like, you know, please explain yourself.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Which is you know, really unfair at a hard is.

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 4>It rocket science? I want to have fun with someone.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, but that's not where I am at this point, right,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what confuses people. If I had

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>said that when I was thirty, I don't feel like

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>people would have I don't know what people would have said,

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because at that point we were trying to avoid these conversations.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you could, right, I mean, you'd be surprised the reactions.

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>People look at me like I have you know, six heads.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, but you're married. The people i'm I'm

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>like the person I'm talking to say, so you get it, like, yeah,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna, you know, throw away my whole life

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>in pursuit of romantic love. But obviously that's what I want,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 3>like as the one part of my life.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So people get you like you're crazy because you want

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>something or because you want to have fun.

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Because I want to at this point where I'm at

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>is like I would just love someone to Now I

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>get it's cool fun things, right, and I would love

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 3>someone to bring that wants to make out with me

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the night.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Does that sound crazy?

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I feel like that's kind of normal.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It is definitely normal. It is definitely normal.

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>This is what I think is interesting from my perspective,

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like the thing that went through my head, because I've

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely gone through many phases as the many times, you know,

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty years i've been doing this, I've had times where

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I had somebody who would come with me and I

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just want to say, it can get complicated, you know,

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and when yeah, it doesn't always go so smooth.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's like someone that is like a social

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 3>socially additive like that doesn't have a good time. I

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>know it is hard, it's so easy. But what I'm

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 3>looking for is very specific. I think it exists. But yeah,

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 3>ideally too, you're you're laying the foundation for something that's

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 3>more long term. But I did back to back long

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>distance relationships for five and a half years, so I'm

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 3>really I'm okay with, you know, feeling a lot of

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>control over my life right now and not having to

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>fly internationally like every three weeks. But I think, yeah,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>it's of course I want great. And then that was

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun. And in my twenties I had

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>the energy for it. Now I don't so much, but interesting,

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I want to call out some scenes from Sex and

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the City I think about at least once per day.

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you?

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Explain this? Why are you and Benny so fascinated with it?

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:24.720
<v Speaker 4>The we love pros and it's just good writing.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It is good writing.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 4>And I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like, just you don't need any anything else,

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>you don't need any fluff. It's just like it's this

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 3>woman that just so badly wants to be seen.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 4>So that's like.

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Also, Kyle McLaughlin's so fabulous in our show, in your show,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>such an iconic character, and he's so funny and so

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 3>like just nice, Yeah, like a nice man, and so

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 3>we loved having him on the show. Then there's a

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 3>moment where after Carrie is leaving BIG's apartment and Natasha

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>falls and the hospital and she's bag and she says,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 3>we are over.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>We need a new word for over.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's huge.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Then there's also.

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>When Carrie talks about the pear shaped diamond that's really aid.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 4>And trying to give her and really good and Samantha.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't get her.

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just such a good reaction.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a million also, like you broke my heart,

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Carrie Aiden.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 4>So oh that's really good.

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>It's closer to my heart this way when she wears

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>the ring. There's just so many moments that are like

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>brund in my brain. I just yeah, I think it's

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we could do a whole other episode about

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 3>the clothes, and I will say in a single again,

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm I watched the show right after my breakup, and

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 3>I've been wearing my heels out as I'm wearing right

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>now because I have all these shoes and I'm just

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>like you, the show really inspires me to just like

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 3>wear the clothes that are hanging in your closet that

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 3>you were so excited to buy. But that wearing feels

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>like more of like it's going to be like an

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 3>element of the evening, right and I'm just like, I'll

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 3>be uncomfortable.

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, Jessica would really love you.

0:36:59.320 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 3>I all the characters too, I mean all the different

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>styles that you guys wear.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 4>It's so true to the characters. But my god, you

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 4>look good. Thank you. I mean every outfit is flattering.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's oh thank you. They weren'd hard man, I mean,

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was. It was such a process and

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Pat very genius level, and Molly, who was with us

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning, who didn't just like that. I mean,

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>we have such an incredible time and it is it's

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a rare, rare situation that you get to have, like,

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>first of all, just total freedom and coture.

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, back in the day it was a

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>hardcore cuture where like we felt the pressure to have

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<v Speaker 1>the newness and remember there's a whole drama about sir

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<v Speaker 1>Jisca wanted I can't remember who it was something and

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<v Speaker 1>it was on the runway and so we had to

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<v Speaker 1>send an assistant to roam or oh my god, stood

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for it to come off the runway, took it,

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<v Speaker 1>got on a plane, flew back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, but fully insane because it's artistry, like at

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<v Speaker 6>every level, which it was beautiful, yes, And that's the

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<v Speaker 6>thing that people would ask me about with the show,

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<v Speaker 6>the first show especially, and true with the second show

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<v Speaker 6>in a slightly different way, but the first show, because

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<v Speaker 6>there was nothing else like it, right, and like in

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<v Speaker 6>the beginning when we had Molly come on and talk

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<v Speaker 6>about the costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, she said, we had ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole first season.

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<v Speaker 4>Nuts, it seems that just seems like fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Well she did a great job. I mean did they

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<v Speaker 4>did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was play Century twenty one down at the

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<v Speaker 1>tip of Manhattan all there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, remember they lived there. People used to think Molly

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<v Speaker 2>worked there wear the belts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she probably knew she did, she did, And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going there with them and like you know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little tiny green skirt with the ruffle in

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<v Speaker 1>the back. Thing is Sella McCartney Century twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But it took a while for us to build

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<v Speaker 1>up our relationship with the designers, to get things lent

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<v Speaker 1>to us. Like we first of all, no one knew

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<v Speaker 1>what we were doing. Second of all, it took a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to be photographed a certain amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Sir Jessica had her good relationships and she

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a good example of like how to

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<v Speaker 1>make a relationship with designers.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to go to the shows back in.

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<v Speaker 1>The day, and like kind of like pay homage and

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<v Speaker 1>work on that relationship and return everything immediately in pristine conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Respect for the garments, right, respect absolutely, And also they

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<v Speaker 1>needed them, they needed those samples, yeah, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>also there was a lot of pressure about that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But when I look back on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just felt the pressure at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, was I thin enough?

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<v Speaker 1>That was really my major conversation in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, not fun, but that was the truth. And

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<v Speaker 2>then also like were we you know, was Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was always really concerned about the character, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm trying to say, which when I look

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<v Speaker 1>back on I'm like, yeah, it was good. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so much fun that weird have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a part two, so join us later in the week

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<v Speaker 1>on are You a Charlotte