Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?
Speaker 2: He guys, we are here at Are you a Charlotte?
Speaker 2: With Mary Beth?
Speaker 3: This is so surreal, you have no I don't even
Speaker 3: know if I could even count the number of times
Speaker 3: I've watched Sex.
Speaker 2: And the City all the way through, you couldn't even count.
Speaker 3: I think I do a rewatch once a year, and
Speaker 3: I just finished my recent rewatch maybe like four months ago.
Speaker 3: And then when I went back to watch the episode
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about, I almost let it keep playing,
Speaker 3: but I was like, I can't do this. I actually
Speaker 3: can't do this.
Speaker 2: I love to hear that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love to hear that one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you well.
Speaker 1: I do feel, as I said to you when you
Speaker 1: got here, that I feel like you and Benny are
Speaker 1: carrying the torch forward with Overcompensating and all your comedy
Speaker 1: and all your everything that you're doing. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're the next generation, like you know, trying to make
Speaker 1: good stuff, like out there pushing the envelope talking.
Speaker 4: About the issues.
Speaker 2: So it's so perfect that you are here to talk
Speaker 2: about boy girl, boy girl. Wish people do it a bit.
Speaker 4: First, I weant talk.
Speaker 1: Abo a little bit, and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: overcompensating because I'm so so excited. And when I first
Speaker 1: had Bennie on, I hadn't seen the whole season, okay,
Speaker 1: because my niece had told me to have him on.
Speaker 2: She was like, have Benny drama. I don't know Benny.
Speaker 1: I had to do some research to like catch up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, these kids are amazing.
Speaker 4: We're you know what.
Speaker 3: We had good role models with you guys, because I
Speaker 3: feel like Sex and the City was so formative. And
Speaker 3: actually I remember where I was the first time I
Speaker 3: saw Sex in the City. I was born in the nineties,
Speaker 3: so it was a little bit like, you know, mature
Speaker 3: for me as like a kid when it was sharing.
Speaker 3: But then in high school I had to sleep over
Speaker 3: at my friend Julia's house. It was like all the
Speaker 3: girls were all still friends to this day, and she
Speaker 3: had DVDs of like the fourth season or something, and
Speaker 3: we just dove in and I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 3: I think this show is going to change my life.
Speaker 3: And ever since then, i've yeah, I guess that must
Speaker 3: have been like ten years ago. It's just been such
Speaker 3: like a mainstay constant for me, and watching the movies
Speaker 3: over and over and then and just like that. It's
Speaker 3: just been so fun to follow the characters. But I
Speaker 3: feel like Sex and the City was such like a
Speaker 3: progress I mean at the time. And obviously there are
Speaker 3: issues that we would handle differently today, of course, but
Speaker 3: really presenting the mainstream with these things that were happening
Speaker 3: in New York absolutely maybe didn't feel so accessible at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: So absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I think that we thought when we started it
Speaker 1: in ninety eight, which is, you know, bizarre to say
Speaker 1: out loud, that it would be like a little niche,
Speaker 1: you know, like we all related to it. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: were in our thirties, and you know, this was kind
Speaker 1: of our life. I mean, it wasn't exactly our life.
Speaker 1: It was like an elevated, more intense version orund but
Speaker 1: it was so exciting to do it, you know, but
Speaker 1: we never thought it would have widespread appeal.
Speaker 4: Did you live in New York at the time or.
Speaker 2: Back and forth?
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 1: I went to Rutgers and then I then I graduated
Speaker 1: and lived in like first I lived in Jersey City.
Speaker 2: Not exciting.
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, sorry, okay, I know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: how it was right and not any means necessary.
Speaker 2: Right now, you live in Williamsburg was very very cool.
Speaker 1: Hopoken at the time wasn't really cool though it later
Speaker 1: got cool.
Speaker 2: But it was kind of like the financial.
Speaker 4: Bros were there.
Speaker 2: I was a waitress at that restaurant right. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever been over there.
Speaker 1: When you would get off the Path train, there was
Speaker 1: a restaurant right there, and they would all just come
Speaker 1: in their suits and yeah, like horrible.
Speaker 4: I would, yeah, every day. So they're still like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's true.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been somewhat diluted, though I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's my experience has changed, but like it
Speaker 1: used to seem that the entire city was that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, you're right, there's much more segment. It's much
Speaker 3: more segment.
Speaker 2: Got the hipsters where you are. You know, we've got
Speaker 2: the art student as well. We've got the college students.
Speaker 2: I feel like the college students.
Speaker 1: And I think this is because the last season we
Speaker 1: stayed in the village when my kids were there.
Speaker 2: I mean, the students are living the life.
Speaker 4: They are in the lap of luxury down there.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think a lot.
Speaker 3: How my life would be different if I went to NYU,
Speaker 3: But I went to like an information session there because
Speaker 3: that was my top choice for a while. I ended
Speaker 3: up into Boston College and dropping out after two years,
Speaker 3: but I went to this information session and one of
Speaker 3: the admissions people was like, we just know if someone
Speaker 3: is like a fit here, and we know if they're not.
Speaker 3: Oh no, And just that vibe really turned me off.
Speaker 3: And I don't even end up applying I was.
Speaker 4: So perfectly a fit.
Speaker 3: But you know when you're just like and thank you
Speaker 3: for saying that, But you know when you just here
Speaker 3: one thing where you're like, no, I actually don't think
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I do totally. I do totally.
Speaker 1: That was how I felt about Rutgers, because Rutgers they
Speaker 1: it was an acting program, and they they were like,
Speaker 1: no one gets in, and I was like, okay, great
Speaker 1: that's for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I almost.
Speaker 3: I actually tried to sign up for drama when I
Speaker 3: won at Boston College, and the teacher was like, I
Speaker 3: think the class is too full, but you can come
Speaker 3: to the first day I meet everyone, and then I
Speaker 3: did that, and then the second class I walked in
Speaker 3: and she goes, it's full, and then I had to
Speaker 3: walk out.
Speaker 4: With my head hanging though.
Speaker 2: That's horrible.
Speaker 3: That was I just think there's so many ways I
Speaker 3: could have found this, But I'm glad it happened the
Speaker 3: way that it did.
Speaker 1: I mean, it always happens the way that should write.
Speaker 1: But it's never easy, no, no, for no one.
Speaker 4: Right, it's been a tough I mean it's yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like stand up.
Speaker 1: I mean, stand up is to me like the hardest, hardest, hardest,
Speaker 1: Like what made you want to do that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think I've met. It's the type
Speaker 3: of mental illness that I have. It's really specific. And
Speaker 3: I started taking improv classes when I had like a
Speaker 3: full time job and I lived with my boyfriend at
Speaker 3: the time. I had a very quiet, sort of contained life.
Speaker 3: And then once I took improv, I just decided I
Speaker 3: wanted to try stand up. And then after that first
Speaker 3: time I did it, I was like, oh God, I
Speaker 3: think I found the thing I want.
Speaker 4: To do, like the drug.
Speaker 3: It was such a high and I totally blew up
Speaker 3: my whole life and then just decided to like pursue comedy.
Speaker 3: And at the beginning, you have that right level of
Speaker 3: like delusion where you're like this could actually happen for me,
Speaker 3: and I just tried to apply all the like type
Speaker 3: a personality that I have to this career, right and
Speaker 3: now I'm ten years in and things are going well
Speaker 3: it works out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I love so much about you
Speaker 1: and Betty. First of all, you're super talented, but second
Speaker 1: of all, the way that you have made it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys met, which I want
Speaker 1: to know, but it's very much inspiring and exciting to
Speaker 1: me that it has worked out for you guys, because
Speaker 1: first of all, I think you're super committed, which everyone
Speaker 1: has to be.
Speaker 2: Like when people ask me when they're young, like what
Speaker 2: should I do? And I'm like, uh, you know, how
Speaker 2: bad do you want it? Like that's really the key.
Speaker 3: Because it's a lot of banging your head against the wall.
Speaker 3: It really for years and years and years, and you
Speaker 3: have no money. It's embarrassing, and you're begging people to
Speaker 3: like support you.
Speaker 4: Yes, and yeah, if.
Speaker 3: You don't love it, like if you don't feel like
Speaker 3: you would risk everything for it, then you really can't
Speaker 3: do it. I mean, I'm sure there are some people
Speaker 3: who've sort of stumbled into it and everything's worked out
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 4: But I think it's very very rare.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't know anyone like that.
Speaker 2: I can't think right now of anyone like that.
Speaker 1: But I love you guys because you as opposed to
Speaker 1: like our generation, like we all. I mean, Cynthia and
Speaker 1: Sarah were child actors and Kim had been acting for
Speaker 1: a long time too, But like I went to college
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: I got to be fa it isn't me no good?
Speaker 2: Like what are the kind of insanity is that?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, studying it?
Speaker 1: But I know, right, I mean the thing that was
Speaker 1: good about where I went is that it was very
Speaker 1: very challenging and they cut people every semester. What so
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, Like five hundred people auditioned to be
Speaker 1: a freshman.
Speaker 2: Fifty of us got in.
Speaker 4: That makes me five graduated, and you were one of
Speaker 4: the fives.
Speaker 2: I was, wow, Oh you're not going to stop me,
Speaker 2: that's you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I would, right, that would be a lot for me
Speaker 4: to handle mentally.
Speaker 1: Right, But I mean you have handled ten years of
Speaker 1: this business, so it's the same. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that the weird, weird hardness of it was good prep right,
Speaker 1: because it made no sense, right, Like you couldn't you couldn't.
Speaker 2: You just be like what what? What happened?
Speaker 4: They cut what?
Speaker 1: And like at one point they told me I had
Speaker 1: to lose weight. This is during college, right, And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh god, you know good. It was actually
Speaker 1: good because the real world is much.
Speaker 2: Worse a nightmare. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's brutal, especially when you start like working your way
Speaker 3: up a little bit and you start to hear the
Speaker 3: conversations that are happening behind the scenes and you see
Speaker 3: just how brutal it Isn't right, I guess what's almost
Speaker 3: nice about social media is like all the meanest things
Speaker 3: anyone could ever say to you, you got to you
Speaker 3: got a notification totally hey this person said this thing.
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, whatever an agent or exec could
Speaker 3: say about me, I would love for them to try
Speaker 3: to come up with something new because I would just
Speaker 3: be interested.
Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, that's so true. That's your true.
Speaker 1: I had not thought about that. I mean, as much
Speaker 1: as I really like I at one point when so,
Speaker 1: so I'm doing the podcast, so I'm looking at more
Speaker 1: stuff and then the show ended, as you know, and
Speaker 1: just like that, and I was so confused by it,
Speaker 1: and also like, you know, everyone was hating on us,
Speaker 1: and then we announced we were over and they were like,
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, And then I was like, well, that's
Speaker 1: really interesting, like what's actually happening, you know, but like
Speaker 1: the there's like such a weird vibe out there. But
Speaker 1: I said to Sir Jessca, I was like trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out, and she said, why are you reading
Speaker 1: those comments? Don't read the comments? And I said, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's kind of not once you
Speaker 1: get in. I mean for us, like we've been through
Speaker 1: it like every which way, and she's very strong about it.
Speaker 2: She doesn't Cynthia reads everything. Yeah, everyone finds their own way,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I think Cynthia feels like she learns from it, which
Speaker 1: I think is amazing. Yeah, she's very tough. I'm not
Speaker 1: so tough, but I am really curious. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to understand.
Speaker 3: It is that weird thing. I mean, I think people
Speaker 3: love being mean on the internet. That's like one of
Speaker 3: the reasons why we started our podcast, just because we
Speaker 3: wanted to celebrate things and we wanted to we wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about things that we loved in a genuine way.
Speaker 3: And it's so much easier to obviously have a podcast
Speaker 3: where you're snarky about everything and you're just on what's
Speaker 3: being made and you insult people's work. But I think
Speaker 3: what people don't realize is like, yeah, if you are
Speaker 3: going to complain about something and say it's bad, like
Speaker 3: it might not be around anymore.
Speaker 1: So I know, I mean, I would like people to
Speaker 1: hear my best saying that, because I feel I feel
Speaker 1: like there is this weird I mean, I assume that
Speaker 1: it's also like the times that we're living in, right,
Speaker 1: people are so uncomfortable and we don't know what is
Speaker 1: happening at any given time, right, So it's much safer
Speaker 1: to complain about a TV show, right than it is
Speaker 1: to deal with the bigger issues, you know, And I
Speaker 1: get that, I get that, But if you're the people
Speaker 1: making the TV show, it's hard to be yelled at
Speaker 1: continually and told that you don't know what you're doing
Speaker 1: and that that person in wherever their houses knows your
Speaker 1: character better than you, which you know is interesting. No,
Speaker 1: we were trying to make a different show with the
Speaker 1: same character.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, and that's how I approached it was like,
Speaker 3: it is the same universe, but the characters obviously have
Speaker 3: changed because they're in totally different phases of their lives.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, again, the show tried to tackle
Speaker 3: topics like, you know, you having an on binary child.
Speaker 3: It's like or Charlotte having an on binary child. It's like,
Speaker 3: what you mean, it's I just felt like, yeah, people
Speaker 3: were always going to hold it to I mean, they
Speaker 3: hold reboots in anything like that to such a different
Speaker 3: standard because of the nostalgia. But I just to me,
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, once again, same with the original,
Speaker 3: even though I didn't necessarily I wouldn't make the same choices.
Speaker 4: As the characters.
Speaker 3: Like I was watching that every single week, and every
Speaker 3: single friend that I talked to, conversations would start with,
Speaker 3: did you see in just like that?
Speaker 2: Oh, like it was musty TV?
Speaker 4: Yeah thirty, I'm thirty four.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. You're in the third thirties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put it that way, you're in the thirty See,
Speaker 1: we were, And that's part of what's weird about streaming.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you guys feel and overcompensating,
Speaker 1: but back in the olden days. Not so much with
Speaker 1: HBO because we were our own We were like paving
Speaker 1: the road or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were new.
Speaker 1: But like you, you kind of knew who was watching streaming.
Speaker 1: You're just like, I don't know. The only people you're
Speaker 1: aware of is who's complaining, Oh.
Speaker 3: For sure, and he was posting clips and you know,
Speaker 3: chopping it up and right. Do you feel that way
Speaker 3: about overcompensating, Yeah, I think it's just it's tough when
Speaker 3: a lot of the streamers don't really tell you how
Speaker 3: many people or or anything like that. Now that I mean,
Speaker 3: the numbers get so big at a certain point, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can't even conceptualize that many people, but I know
Speaker 3: how many people are reaching out and posting about it
Speaker 3: and making fan edits and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, it's also, for whatever reason, the criticisms
Speaker 3: always resonate with like sticking your brain more than the
Speaker 3: people who love it, of course.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, also just feel that the people who
Speaker 1: love it, if they're your friends, of course you're assuming
Speaker 1: that they are just you know, biased, and then you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily hear from the people in the world who
Speaker 1: love it because they don't post about loving it right,
Speaker 1: only the angry people post it seems. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but like with overcompensating. So okay, First of all, how'd
Speaker 1: you meet Benny?
Speaker 3: So? Bennie and I actually met at a stand up show.
Speaker 3: This was in yeah, pre pandemic. We met.
Speaker 4: We were booked on the same.
Speaker 3: Show in Bushwick, Oh my God, a bar called Our
Speaker 3: Wicked Lady, and it was we always say, there were
Speaker 3: more comics on the lineup than people in the audience.
Speaker 4: It was a very small show and we.
Speaker 3: Just really liked each other's sets, and he stopped me
Speaker 3: on the way out and we sort of had this
Speaker 3: like moment of connection. And then we were booked on
Speaker 3: another show together like a week later, and he said
Speaker 3: he needed someone for a sketch that he was doing,
Speaker 3: and I was like absolutely, Like you know, that was
Speaker 3: a time when it was say yes to everything, and
Speaker 3: then also if it's someone that you think is really funny.
Speaker 4: You're like, well, of course, like I'll be there, what time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then it just sort of organically grew from there,
Speaker 3: and then we had this opportunity to do our first
Speaker 3: podcast together, which was canceled.
Speaker 4: First podcast in history to ever be canceled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of.
Speaker 4: All the Obsessed. Oh, which was for Spotify year.
Speaker 2: What year?
Speaker 3: This was during the pandemic? Okay, so it was twenty
Speaker 3: twenty podcasts. Yeah, that was sort of the beginning of it.
Speaker 3: So then that got canceled and we decided to start
Speaker 3: our own thing called Ride Right. And so yeah, it's
Speaker 3: been We've done a lot of different projects together and
Speaker 3: it's always so fun and it's just nice to have
Speaker 3: someone in this industry who you genuinely feel like so
Speaker 3: happy or and so much love and like we support
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: It's isolating, it's so beautiful and so rare, like when
Speaker 1: I see it because we I had been obviously by
Speaker 1: myself in my career right previous to Sex and City,
Speaker 1: and then because we were together and we went through
Speaker 1: the whole experience together, you had someone to check in
Speaker 1: with about the insanity and the difficulties and whatever was
Speaker 1: going on, right, And it's something that I'm just so
Speaker 1: grateful for because I see other actresses because generally speaking,
Speaker 1: you're alone. You're very alone, especially as a female, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know, you'll be on a set and they'll
Speaker 1: just be all guys.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and so few shows go for that
Speaker 3: many seasons now, right, So it's like you guys really
Speaker 3: had like a family on set, which is.
Speaker 2: Such a which was what was so great to get
Speaker 2: back together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so great.
Speaker 1: And we did the movies and Morocco and you know,
Speaker 1: we've we've had like quite the life, quite the life.
Speaker 1: It's been incredible, and obviously I just wanted to keep going.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, Right now, we're just taking a
Speaker 1: little pause. That's a break at break.
Speaker 5: If whatever's next, I'll be there, thank you, I'll be there, Sport.
Speaker 2: I'm very, very very excited for the second season. If
Speaker 2: I can't compensate.
Speaker 4: It's so fun. We're writing it right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marbeth came to us before where she's going to
Speaker 1: the writer's room a whole day.
Speaker 3: It's so exciting, it's so fun. It's such a crazy
Speaker 3: thing to do for work. Like we just sit there
Speaker 3: and like pitch what we think is funny, and sometimes
Speaker 3: it's not funny.
Speaker 4: You find that out when you say it out loud.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is like sometimes it's a funny
Speaker 1: idea and then on the page it might not be funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right, let's talk about so you
Speaker 2: and Benny.
Speaker 1: Meat, Yeah, at a stand up and so you're both
Speaker 1: doing stand up and.
Speaker 2: Is he already doing his YouTube thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, we've been doing crtches online and some character stuff
Speaker 3: and so, yeah, we met at this very interesting time.
Speaker 3: It was like twenty I think it was twenty eighteen
Speaker 3: or twenty nineteen. But basically when I first started, there
Speaker 3: were so many like clear milestones that a comedian could
Speaker 3: hit in their career to be like, I'm on my
Speaker 3: way to what my dreams are, my goals. And then
Speaker 3: it felt like with the pandemic and then the strikes
Speaker 3: like so many of these, so many of these like
Speaker 3: cornerstones of comedy just sort of like went away. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so it's been really interesting to see like people
Speaker 3: have to build their own career paths and like Benny
Speaker 3: was such a trailblazer in that respect. Yes, and I
Speaker 3: think his being able to pivot to like you know,
Speaker 3: traditional legacy media gives a lot of people hope who
Speaker 3: started online or even you know, even me.
Speaker 2: He gives me.
Speaker 3: It's just like there is there are ways, there are ways,
Speaker 3: and he's extremely talented, so it's not just like anyone.
Speaker 4: Could do it.
Speaker 1: Well, no, of course, but I think I think that
Speaker 1: the commitment and the persevering through the different things and
Speaker 1: also just using your head right because you guys are
Speaker 1: super smart and you're seeing opportunities to get in there.
Speaker 1: It gives me hope, you know. And I saw Michael
Speaker 1: Patrick and I was like, you've got to meet Betting.
Speaker 2: He's like, I've met at me. He's amazing.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So he had like a whole love fest, I know.
Speaker 1: And it's so nice because Michael Patrick was also a
Speaker 1: stand up. You know, he was, Yes, he was a
Speaker 1: stand up, possibly not husually a successful stand up right
Speaker 1: where you would know his name, but he was out
Speaker 1: there grinding, going to the clubs doing all the things. Now,
Speaker 1: this is when he was wearing like plaid shirts. He's
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania, and he had the curly hair and like,
Speaker 1: it was a whole different time, a whole different different vibe,
Speaker 1: very extremely different vibe. But he worked and worked and
Speaker 1: worked at it and then started writing I think, like
Speaker 1: punch up jokes for sitcoms and then eventually was hired
Speaker 1: on Murphy Brown and won an Emmy on Murphy Brown,
Speaker 1: which was you know, trailblazing in the eighties slash nineties,
Speaker 1: I guess, and then obviously we got him on the
Speaker 1: first season of our show Sex and City, thank goodness,
Speaker 1: because you know, he's been the visionary, you know. I
Speaker 1: think Darren's vision is about putting things together at the
Speaker 1: right time.
Speaker 2: He's one of those.
Speaker 1: Producers where he can put the pieces together really brilliantly
Speaker 1: like someone else and kind of feel the zeitgeisty type thing.
Speaker 1: So he knew Candice and he optioned her book, but
Speaker 1: then he brought Michael in because Michael knew how to
Speaker 1: write jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we didn't. The show is so funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's surreal because you see these names on
Speaker 3: your TV as you're watching the shows, and then when
Speaker 3: you meet the people in real life, it's just like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, like I've watched you for so many hours,
Speaker 3: and I feel like the comedy of the show. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure there was so much criticism of just like
Speaker 3: having these sexually empowered women on TV back when the
Speaker 3: show came out, but I think also just the comedy
Speaker 3: of it all gets overlooked sometimes, where I'm like, first
Speaker 3: of all, the comedic performances are genius, and I think
Speaker 3: it is really difficult to like have these and I
Speaker 3: think that's something we always try to do in Overcompensating,
Speaker 3: just have these really earned art fault moments, but also
Speaker 3: the comedy of it all. And sometimes it is physical.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is someone like having to swallow a bunch
Speaker 3: of fish and then going to throw it up at
Speaker 3: a Charlie XCX concert, which was very fun, which is
Speaker 3: very funny. But I think it's you don't see as
Speaker 3: many shows that are able.
Speaker 1: To try or even trying. I think it's a very
Speaker 1: hard thing to do. And that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that I did love about our show, and that you know,
Speaker 1: it's rare to you kind of in a weird way,
Speaker 1: have to earn that opportunity to even make that show,
Speaker 1: you know, And then I think actually executing that show
Speaker 1: is so hard. And that's what I love about the
Speaker 1: first season of over Compensating. That you start and it's
Speaker 1: really fun, it's interesting, and you're like, you know, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Is it going to come out as you
Speaker 1: you know whatever, And then by the time we get
Speaker 1: to your episode, it's so deep but also so funny,
Speaker 1: but so earned, and the whole time you've been wondering,
Speaker 1: like what's up with her?
Speaker 3: At least I was know that people had a very
Speaker 3: strong reaction to Grace in the first few episodes.
Speaker 4: I think because the way it was written was like.
Speaker 3: You you do really peel back the layers on all
Speaker 3: the characters this season progresses, so I think people just
Speaker 3: saw like, oh, she's a bitch for no reason. But
Speaker 3: then it was so like expertly done that once we
Speaker 3: go home and we see more of her interacting with
Speaker 3: even like her the character of her boyfriend, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: really start to understand, like what is motivating her.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, she's in some ways like the Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the beginning kind of underwritten a very
Speaker 1: recognizable character.
Speaker 2: Right, you're like, oh, I think I know her, but
Speaker 2: why is she so uptight? Because you're like, why is
Speaker 2: she so unhappy? Like that's interesting?
Speaker 1: That's how I felt, right, And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I hope they're going to give her more, you know,
Speaker 1: because I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just was watching by myself in the nighttime, right
Speaker 1: when the kids are And then it was just such
Speaker 1: a wonderful payoff when you did finally get to understand
Speaker 1: and see and also divert a bit from you know,
Speaker 1: the campus, and yeah, it took a lot of guts,
Speaker 1: I think to do that in your first season to
Speaker 1: be able to write that, and then you so beautifully
Speaker 1: acted it, and it was so you were so rooting
Speaker 1: for her, you know, and it's just so good.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the second season.
Speaker 4: A lot of fun things in story. Yeah, it's I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: I mean, Benny's so in the zone right now too,
Speaker 3: Like everything he's sending us to look at is so
Speaker 3: funny and so beautiful and it is so personal to him.
Speaker 3: So I think there everyone in the room and on
Speaker 3: the show on set, everyone feels a lot of like
Speaker 3: care for the story, yes as well you should, and
Speaker 3: playing the characters. One thing Benny always talks about with
Speaker 3: the casting process is like playing these characters with a
Speaker 3: lot of respect for who they are, not making them
Speaker 3: these like reductive, sort of dumb college kids, which I
Speaker 3: feel like you guys also did on Sex and the City.
Speaker 3: It's like it's so easy to put those four main
Speaker 3: characters into their little boxes, but you really feel the
Speaker 3: depth and like the complexities, especially as the show goes on,
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, it just feels like a lot
Speaker 3: of TV shows and not to I mean I watched
Speaker 3: so much TV too, and some TV shows they don't
Speaker 3: need to go so deep.
Speaker 4: But like the ones I go back to those ones.
Speaker 2: Great a great well.
Speaker 1: I mean for us, we never thought we were in
Speaker 1: our boxes. I mean that's the thing. As an actor,
Speaker 1: you have to think bigger and deeper. And yeah, you
Speaker 1: never I mean everyone else is going to do whatever
Speaker 1: they're going to.
Speaker 4: Do, write and interpret it or whatever.
Speaker 3: I think there's also been a lot of reflection on
Speaker 3: the show in the in the past few years, people
Speaker 3: from different generations finding it. It's amazing, and I think
Speaker 3: that's great and everyone can take what they want from it.
Speaker 3: But I get very defensive of the characters. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I just think you don't get it. Maybe you don't
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes people don't get it. I mean certainly
Speaker 1: with them, just like that. People sometimes got it, sometimes
Speaker 1: didn't get it. And I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: had to do with how old they were, right, But
Speaker 1: you're young and you got it, so you never know, right.
Speaker 1: But with the first show, and I think also Les
Speaker 1: you're saying perspective, you gain perspective over time and for us.
Speaker 1: You know, in the beginning, we were like the Girls
Speaker 1: Show at HBO, you know, and we were the unseerious.
Speaker 1: We were a big hit. Not not originally, but like say,
Speaker 1: by season three, which is the episode we're watching, we
Speaker 1: were I think we'd won our first Golden Globe, I
Speaker 1: want to say, And we got nominated for an Emmy
Speaker 1: that year, which we.
Speaker 2: Never thoughtould happened.
Speaker 1: So we got credit for a certain kind of success.
Speaker 1: But the Sopranos was like.
Speaker 4: The serious, like prestigie whatever.
Speaker 1: And definitely prestigie. I mean we were prestige because we
Speaker 1: were on HBO. We could say whatever we wanted.
Speaker 4: It's prestige. To me, Well, it's.
Speaker 2: Prestige now, That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: It kind of gained I think it gained importance. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right word. It gained something
Speaker 1: in time which has been so rewarding.
Speaker 3: Well, it also feels like, I mean I was a
Speaker 3: kid at the time, but it was sort of around
Speaker 3: the same era as like the Spice Girls and all
Speaker 3: these female pop stars coming up, and I feel like
Speaker 3: there was this sort of I call it Spice Girls feminism,
Speaker 3: but it's just this thing of like girl power, and
Speaker 3: I do feel like maybe it coincided with you.
Speaker 2: Yes, really, it's most definitely most huge audience, Sir Jessica.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll be mad at me for
Speaker 1: saying this, but she used to play that Spice Girls
Speaker 1: CD in the makeup trailer like over and over and
Speaker 1: it's so good.
Speaker 4: I mean over and over and over.
Speaker 2: I mean it was a lot. It was a lot.
Speaker 1: And then she would leave, and then Cynthia would put
Speaker 1: on like, oh my god, Gypsy Rosie like like like
Speaker 1: who's that belting lady on the Broadway like in the
Speaker 1: forties or fifties, like the original Gypsy Rosley Thank you.
Speaker 1: And Cynthia would put on an Ethel Murman, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's so funny now, I know, and you just be
Speaker 1: like oh. And then sometimes if they both left, Kim
Speaker 1: and I would put on classical because we just needed
Speaker 1: to chill, you know, make.
Speaker 4: A palate cleanser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a little palate cleanser. It was a
Speaker 1: lot going on because we also we had to head
Speaker 1: out on the.
Speaker 4: Street, right, I mean filming in the in the bustling.
Speaker 2: In the middle New York, excited in the.
Speaker 4: It must or it must have been crazy.
Speaker 2: It was crazy in a good way. It added it
Speaker 2: added a lot.
Speaker 1: I think when you go on to a sound stage,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you guys film out in the
Speaker 1: world in Toronto?
Speaker 3: Sometimes we do. We have some in studio stuff and
Speaker 3: then some that's like on location.
Speaker 2: As they say, yes, location, but I would.
Speaker 3: Say sex and the city for Benny and I, they're
Speaker 3: real people to us, like we talk about it as
Speaker 3: if we know these people. We have a joke on
Speaker 3: our podcast that Alexander Petrowski died of COVID because he
Speaker 3: refused to wear a mask. Don't you think he would
Speaker 3: We wrote a fake obituation for him.
Speaker 1: Or I mean I I wouldn't even say that out
Speaker 1: loud because I do not want Barishnikov to die, right
Speaker 1: and like for me, I can't separate. I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it, see Like for me, Petrovsky and I
Speaker 1: have only re seen the episode where we meet him.
Speaker 2: I can't remember why I watched that one.
Speaker 3: That whole stretch is like the way they reveal that
Speaker 3: he is like kind of a nightmare.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember gut wrenching.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember when she when.
Speaker 3: He cancels on meeting you guys, and then you go
Speaker 3: there to meet him at a studio and he's so
Speaker 3: fucking cranky.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember this.
Speaker 3: They show up and he's like working on his light
Speaker 3: installation or whatever. And you know, Samantha's wearing an afro
Speaker 3: in the scene because she has cancer at the time.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, that whole stretch is like, it's so
Speaker 3: And that was when the show really felt more like
Speaker 3: a movie, like The Last Reason, because it was like
Speaker 3: a I think they did two half seasons it.
Speaker 1: We really did one season and then they cut it
Speaker 1: up because I didn't want to pay us more.
Speaker 2: That's how it works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome, yes, and I love that.
Speaker 3: But it really was just like it's so just it
Speaker 3: was stunning, and I think so many ways we experience
Speaker 3: that of just like there's this guy that is when
Speaker 3: you're alone together, it feels like just like magic, of course,
Speaker 3: but then when you bring in your own life you
Speaker 3: just see how wrong it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. It's really be interesting, very bath
Speaker 2: that part. I have like really clear memories of some things.
Speaker 2: Some things I have no memory. What's so crazy?
Speaker 1: Ever, because we never slept we basically filmed all night long,
Speaker 1: every night, almost yeah, right till the sun came up,
Speaker 1: so like you're just not in your right mind. And
Speaker 1: so some things are really like for instance, the episode
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch Boy Girl, Boy Girl, because Alanis Morrisett
Speaker 1: was on, I was very excited, yes, and also Sarah
Speaker 1: Jessca was very nervous about the kiss. So I went
Speaker 1: down there. I was not working, but I went down
Speaker 1: there to be like moral support. But then because Alantis
Speaker 1: was there and we were trying to like keep it chill,
Speaker 1: not overreact, you know whatnot.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we did it honestly.
Speaker 1: Right because also like she's really young, like she must
Speaker 1: have been at the height of like the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I can't even I don't even know how she ended
Speaker 2: up on her show.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure it was because it was a
Speaker 4: massive hit, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, like did we know someone who knew her?
Speaker 2: Like how did it happen?
Speaker 3: It's such a funny cameo because it's like very small,
Speaker 3: so small, so you're like, oh my god, that'ss Morse.
Speaker 1: I mean, and like baby Alanis morris said with the
Speaker 1: little bread like I love her so much. I can't
Speaker 1: even I can't anyway, I went down there, but then
Speaker 1: there were so many people in that party scene that
Speaker 1: it was like kind of like like overwhelming, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to add to it, so I hung back.
Speaker 1: But Sartus was also really nervous because this is not
Speaker 1: something that she would be doing right, and it was Atlantis.
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on. So I went down there.
Speaker 2: Why did I bring this up? I don't know.
Speaker 4: You were up all night.
Speaker 2: I was up all night as always, But also like
Speaker 2: we were in the bubble.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking of, Like you
Speaker 1: didn't really have other I don't feel like I was
Speaker 1: tethered to normal life in any way during that time.
Speaker 1: Like in the beginning, it was on and off, right,
Speaker 1: like when you're filming, you're in the bubble, But once
Speaker 1: we really got going, you were just in the bubble
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys did so many episodes for most season,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I would imagine some things You're like,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 4: Don't remember that. I don't sometimes I remember something filmed
Speaker 4: in for.
Speaker 1: Vivid, And also rewatching is so fascinating because of course
Speaker 1: when you're in it, remember it. One way because you
Speaker 1: remember what was happening on the set and whether you
Speaker 1: like the actor you didn't or whatever, it was right,
Speaker 1: and then now when you look back on it, like
Speaker 1: like when I watch myself in this episode with Donovan
Speaker 1: Leach trying to be the man in the photograph, it's
Speaker 1: just fucking fascinating and so different than how I remembered it.
Speaker 2: It's bizarre. I mean, Charlotte is full of surprises.
Speaker 4: She is, and I think that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I really do feel like, depending on the day,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm one of the four, just depends on the day.
Speaker 2: Really, wait, so all four are incorporated in this.
Speaker 4: I love it. I really think so of it because
Speaker 4: I'm very Type A.
Speaker 3: One thing that I think for Charlotte, what I really
Speaker 3: identify with is she's Type A and she's always willing
Speaker 3: to put her heart on the line. As many times
Speaker 3: as she is, like, you know, not even rejected, but
Speaker 3: as many times as things don't work out. When that
Speaker 3: next thing presents itself, she's ready to really like throw
Speaker 3: herself into it, and I really identify with that.
Speaker 4: Also, there was.
Speaker 3: This one moment where I think, you say, like I've
Speaker 3: been dating men for.
Speaker 4: Ten years, where is he fifteen years where is he?
Speaker 4: And I think about that line read all the time.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And I also think like Charlotte is certainly you know,
Speaker 3: there are moments of judgment, but I also think it's
Speaker 3: because she is maybe has the less. She just hasn't
Speaker 3: met as many people. And then when she meets I
Speaker 3: think she is very open minded. And I'm also judgmental
Speaker 3: and open minded at the same time. Well, that's because
Speaker 3: I'm a Gemini, so I can be both. And I
Speaker 3: get it, you know, from Samantha's perspective, like the sexual
Speaker 3: empowerment I think is really important, and just showing a
Speaker 3: woman that her age is not limiting her and she
Speaker 3: dresses or what choices she's making. Yes, and Carrie of
Speaker 3: course being a little selfish at times and.
Speaker 4: Being a writer. That's how I feel I am.
Speaker 3: And then Miranda being work obsessed and thinking she can
Speaker 3: do her job just as good as a man, if
Speaker 3: not better.
Speaker 4: Of course, I mean good.
Speaker 3: Think about having those characters on TV. For me as
Speaker 3: a high school student, I'm like, I can be anything.
Speaker 4: That was really what I felt like. I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's critiques of it where I'm like, sure, whatever,
Speaker 3: But to me, I don't see that.
Speaker 4: I see it. I don't see how it limited anyone's worldview.
Speaker 3: I think, if anything, I mean, of course, when I
Speaker 3: look at it just like that, obviously it's wonderful that
Speaker 3: there's a more diverse cast and we're seeing people who
Speaker 3: have very different experiences. But for me at the time,
Speaker 3: it was it felt like a lot of different experiences,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Think it was for television at the time, a much
Speaker 1: broader view of what it meant to be a woman,
Speaker 1: what it meant to be a woman in the world,
Speaker 1: and your choices.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was nice to get to do even
Speaker 1: a broader view in and just like that. And then
Speaker 1: you and I were talking briefly before we started. We
Speaker 1: said we would wait till we got here. You feel
Speaker 1: that the ending of just like that, that Carrie should
Speaker 1: find the love you want Carrie to.
Speaker 4: That's what I want because I'm a hopeless romantic.
Speaker 3: And also I think having a life full of beautiful friendships.
Speaker 3: That's what I have right now in my family that
Speaker 3: I love. But of course I still want to find
Speaker 3: a partner. And I just you mentioned and there was
Speaker 3: criticism when the first series ended about you all being
Speaker 3: paired off and.
Speaker 2: People were big mad Marybeth.
Speaker 3: Those people are the same people that when I talk
Speaker 3: about wanting a partner, they say to me, like, you
Speaker 3: don't need one.
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I want one.
Speaker 2: Well, those are two very different things. Yeah, and why
Speaker 2: shouldn't you.
Speaker 3: We've watched these characters pursue romantic love and their friendships
Speaker 3: flourish at the same time. But I still want to
Speaker 3: see them achieve what.
Speaker 2: They want, right.
Speaker 1: I think that might be one of the interesting points.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure because I don't really have closure
Speaker 1: on it, as I was saying, And I haven't even
Speaker 1: watched the last two because I'm just in denial, right,
Speaker 1: And I hope someday that we will come back and
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 2: But I do feel for Carrie.
Speaker 1: If you look at Carrie, because obviously this whole new
Speaker 1: thing about her being selfish, this was not something that
Speaker 1: we thought about at the time or would have said
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 4: Also, make she's the main character, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that we thought of at the
Speaker 1: time was that we wanted her to be complex, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of unheard of in a woman main character, right,
Speaker 1: Like as a woman main characters that you're supposed to be,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Flirty and sweet.
Speaker 1: And the rom comes of the nine choices exactly make
Speaker 1: good choices or if you make a bad choice, then
Speaker 1: regret it and rethink it and change it. Whereas we
Speaker 1: were just ongoing storytelling in a really you know, free way.
Speaker 1: It's great and HBO almost said nothing And.
Speaker 4: It feels like real people because they're making mistakes.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what we wanted.
Speaker 1: And it didn't make any sense to us, at least
Speaker 1: to me, like when the whole Narcissists Carried Things started,
Speaker 1: which I feel like was during COVID or at least
Speaker 1: when I saw it.
Speaker 3: Pop had way too much time, y'all. Don't need to
Speaker 3: be thinking about sex and the city that much.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed the show fun.
Speaker 1: I find it all fascinating, the way the conversation changes
Speaker 1: over time, right, And so there was this time of like,
Speaker 1: we don't like Carrie, and I was like, well, that's
Speaker 1: bizarre and interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, we need Carrie to go through all this.
Speaker 1: To have a show exactly, you know, and movies and
Speaker 1: then another show. But I do know what you're saying
Speaker 1: in terms of like people, I'm single, You know, and
Speaker 1: people are always very like, you know, please explain yourself.
Speaker 1: Which is you know, really unfair at a hard is.
Speaker 4: It rocket science? I want to have fun with someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but that's not where I am at this point, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that's what confuses people. If I had
Speaker 1: said that when I was thirty, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: people would have I don't know what people would have said,
Speaker 1: because at that point we were trying to avoid these conversations.
Speaker 3: Yeah you could, right, I mean, you'd be surprised the reactions.
Speaker 3: People look at me like I have you know, six heads.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, but you're married. The people i'm I'm
Speaker 3: like the person I'm talking to say, so you get it, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna, you know, throw away my whole life
Speaker 3: in pursuit of romantic love. But obviously that's what I want,
Speaker 3: like as the one part of my life.
Speaker 1: So people get you like you're crazy because you want
Speaker 1: something or because you want to have fun.
Speaker 3: Because I want to at this point where I'm at
Speaker 3: is like I would just love someone to Now I
Speaker 3: get it's cool fun things, right, and I would love
Speaker 3: someone to bring that wants to make out with me
Speaker 3: at the end of the night.
Speaker 4: Does that sound crazy?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like that's kind of normal.
Speaker 2: It is definitely normal. It is definitely normal.
Speaker 1: This is what I think is interesting from my perspective,
Speaker 1: like the thing that went through my head, because I've
Speaker 1: definitely gone through many phases as the many times, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty years i've been doing this, I've had times where
Speaker 1: I had somebody who would come with me and I
Speaker 1: just want to say, it can get complicated, you know,
Speaker 1: and when yeah, it doesn't always go so smooth.
Speaker 3: I know, it's like someone that is like a social
Speaker 3: socially additive like that doesn't have a good time. I
Speaker 3: know it is hard, it's so easy. But what I'm
Speaker 3: looking for is very specific. I think it exists. But yeah,
Speaker 3: ideally too, you're you're laying the foundation for something that's
Speaker 3: more long term. But I did back to back long
Speaker 3: distance relationships for five and a half years, so I'm
Speaker 3: really I'm okay with, you know, feeling a lot of
Speaker 3: control over my life right now and not having to
Speaker 3: fly internationally like every three weeks. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's of course I want great. And then that was
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And in my twenties I had
Speaker 3: the energy for it. Now I don't so much, but interesting,
Speaker 3: I want to call out some scenes from Sex and
Speaker 3: the City I think about at least once per day.
Speaker 4: I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you?
Speaker 2: Explain this? Why are you and Benny so fascinated with it?
Speaker 4: The we love pros and it's just good writing.
Speaker 2: It is good writing.
Speaker 4: And I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, just you don't need any anything else,
Speaker 3: you don't need any fluff. It's just like it's this
Speaker 3: woman that just so badly wants to be seen.
Speaker 4: So that's like.
Speaker 3: Also, Kyle McLaughlin's so fabulous in our show, in your show,
Speaker 3: such an iconic character, and he's so funny and so
Speaker 3: like just nice, Yeah, like a nice man, and so
Speaker 3: we loved having him on the show. Then there's a
Speaker 3: moment where after Carrie is leaving BIG's apartment and Natasha
Speaker 3: falls and the hospital and she's bag and she says,
Speaker 3: we are over.
Speaker 4: We need a new word for over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's huge.
Speaker 4: Then there's also.
Speaker 3: When Carrie talks about the pear shaped diamond that's really aid.
Speaker 4: And trying to give her and really good and Samantha.
Speaker 2: He doesn't get her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just such a good reaction.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a million also, like you broke my heart,
Speaker 3: Carrie Aiden.
Speaker 4: So oh that's really good.
Speaker 3: It's closer to my heart this way when she wears
Speaker 3: the ring. There's just so many moments that are like
Speaker 3: brund in my brain. I just yeah, I think it's
Speaker 3: I mean, we could do a whole other episode about
Speaker 3: the clothes, and I will say in a single again,
Speaker 3: I'm I watched the show right after my breakup, and
Speaker 3: I've been wearing my heels out as I'm wearing right
Speaker 3: now because I have all these shoes and I'm just
Speaker 3: like you, the show really inspires me to just like
Speaker 3: wear the clothes that are hanging in your closet that
Speaker 3: you were so excited to buy. But that wearing feels
Speaker 3: like more of like it's going to be like an
Speaker 3: element of the evening, right and I'm just like, I'll
Speaker 3: be uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Oh sure, Jessica would really love you.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: I all the characters too, I mean all the different
Speaker 3: styles that you guys wear.
Speaker 4: It's so true to the characters. But my god, you
Speaker 4: look good. Thank you. I mean every outfit is flattering.
Speaker 1: It's oh thank you. They weren'd hard man, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was such a process and
Speaker 1: Pat very genius level, and Molly, who was with us
Speaker 1: from the beginning, who didn't just like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have such an incredible time and it is it's
Speaker 1: a rare, rare situation that you get to have, like,
Speaker 1: first of all, just total freedom and coture.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: And you know, back in the day it was a
Speaker 1: hardcore cuture where like we felt the pressure to have
Speaker 1: the newness and remember there's a whole drama about sir
Speaker 1: Jisca wanted I can't remember who it was something and
Speaker 1: it was on the runway and so we had to
Speaker 1: send an assistant to roam or oh my god, stood
Speaker 1: waiting for it to come off the runway, took it,
Speaker 1: got on a plane, flew back.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 6: I know, but fully insane because it's artistry, like at
Speaker 6: every level, which it was beautiful, yes, And that's the
Speaker 6: thing that people would ask me about with the show,
Speaker 6: the first show especially, and true with the second show
Speaker 6: in a slightly different way, but the first show, because
Speaker 6: there was nothing else like it, right, and like in
Speaker 6: the beginning when we had Molly come on and talk
Speaker 6: about the costumes.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, she said, we had ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for the whole first season.
Speaker 4: Nuts, it seems that just seems like fiction.
Speaker 2: No, it's true, that's true.
Speaker 4: Well she did a great job. I mean did they
Speaker 4: did a great job.
Speaker 1: But there was play Century twenty one down at the
Speaker 1: tip of Manhattan all there.
Speaker 2: Yes, remember they lived there. People used to think Molly
Speaker 2: worked there wear the belts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably knew she did, she did, And I
Speaker 1: remember going there with them and like you know that
Speaker 1: there's a little tiny green skirt with the ruffle in
Speaker 1: the back. Thing is Sella McCartney Century twenty one.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it took a while for us to build
Speaker 1: up our relationship with the designers, to get things lent
Speaker 1: to us. Like we first of all, no one knew
Speaker 1: what we were doing. Second of all, it took a while.
Speaker 1: We had to be photographed a certain amount of time.
Speaker 1: And then Sir Jessica had her good relationships and she
Speaker 1: was kind of a good example of like how to
Speaker 1: make a relationship with designers.
Speaker 2: You had to go to the shows back in.
Speaker 1: The day, and like kind of like pay homage and
Speaker 1: work on that relationship and return everything immediately in pristine conditions.
Speaker 1: Respect for the garments, right, respect absolutely, And also they
Speaker 1: needed them, they needed those samples, yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: also there was a lot of pressure about that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But when I look back on it,
Speaker 1: I mean I just felt the pressure at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, was I thin enough?
Speaker 1: That was really my major conversation in my head.
Speaker 2: You know, not fun, but that was the truth. And
Speaker 2: then also like were we you know, was Charlotte?
Speaker 1: Like I was always really concerned about the character, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say, which when I look
Speaker 1: back on I'm like, yeah, it was good. You guys,
Speaker 1: this is so much fun that weird have to have
Speaker 1: a part two, so join us later in the week
Speaker 1: on are You a Charlotte