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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: He guys, we are here at Are you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: With Mary Beth?

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Speaker 3: This is so surreal, you have no I don't even

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Speaker 3: know if I could even count the number of times

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Speaker 3: I've watched Sex.

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Speaker 2: And the City all the way through, you couldn't even count.

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Speaker 3: I think I do a rewatch once a year, and

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Speaker 3: I just finished my recent rewatch maybe like four months ago.

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Speaker 3: And then when I went back to watch the episode

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about, I almost let it keep playing,

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Speaker 3: but I was like, I can't do this. I actually

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Speaker 3: can't do this.

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Speaker 2: I love to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love to hear that one of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you well.

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Speaker 1: I do feel, as I said to you when you

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Speaker 1: got here, that I feel like you and Benny are

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Speaker 1: carrying the torch forward with Overcompensating and all your comedy

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Speaker 1: and all your everything that you're doing. I feel like

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Speaker 1: you're the next generation, like you know, trying to make

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Speaker 1: good stuff, like out there pushing the envelope talking.

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Speaker 4: About the issues.

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Speaker 2: So it's so perfect that you are here to talk

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Speaker 2: about boy girl, boy girl. Wish people do it a bit.

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Speaker 4: First, I weant talk.

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Speaker 1: Abo a little bit, and I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: overcompensating because I'm so so excited. And when I first

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Speaker 1: had Bennie on, I hadn't seen the whole season, okay,

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Speaker 1: because my niece had told me to have him on.

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Speaker 2: She was like, have Benny drama. I don't know Benny.

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Speaker 1: I had to do some research to like catch up,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, these kids are amazing.

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Speaker 4: We're you know what.

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Speaker 3: We had good role models with you guys, because I

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Speaker 3: feel like Sex and the City was so formative. And

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Speaker 3: actually I remember where I was the first time I

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Speaker 3: But then in high school I had to sleep over

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Speaker 3: we just dove in and I was like, holy shit,

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Speaker 3: I think this show is going to change my life.

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Speaker 3: And ever since then, i've yeah, I guess that must

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Speaker 3: over and over and then and just like that. It's

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Speaker 3: feel like Sex and the City was such like a

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Speaker 3: progress I mean at the time. And obviously there are

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Speaker 3: issues that we would handle differently today, of course, but

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Speaker 3: really presenting the mainstream with these things that were happening

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Speaker 1: And I think that we thought when we started it

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Speaker 4: I had.

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Speaker 1: I went to Rutgers and then I then I graduated

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Speaker 2: Not exciting.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you live in Williamsburg was very very cool.

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Speaker 1: Hopoken at the time wasn't really cool though it later

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Speaker 2: But it was kind of like the financial.

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Speaker 2: I was a waitress at that restaurant right. I don't

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Speaker 1: When you would get off the Path train, there was

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Speaker 4: I would, yeah, every day. So they're still like that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they've been somewhat diluted, though I don't

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Speaker 3: Now, yes, you're right, there's much more segment. It's much

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Speaker 2: Got the hipsters where you are. You know, we've got

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Speaker 1: And I think this is because the last season we

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Speaker 2: I mean, the students are living the life.

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Speaker 4: They are in the lap of luxury down there.

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Speaker 3: How my life would be different if I went to NYU,

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Speaker 3: But I went to like an information session there because

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Speaker 3: And I don't even end up applying I was.

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Speaker 3: But you know when you're just like and thank you

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Speaker 1: That was how I felt about Rutgers, because Rutgers they

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Speaker 3: I actually tried to sign up for drama when I

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Speaker 4: With my head hanging though.

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Speaker 3: That was I just think there's so many ways I

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Speaker 1: I mean, it always happens the way that should write.

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Speaker 4: To do, like the drug.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what I love so much about you

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Speaker 1: and Betty. First of all, you're super talented, but second

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Speaker 2: Like when people ask me when they're young, like what

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Speaker 3: Because it's a lot of banging your head against the wall.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's very very rare.

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Speaker 1: But I love you guys because you as opposed to

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Speaker 4: I would, right, that would be a lot for me

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Speaker 2: You just be like what what? What happened?

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Speaker 1: And like at one point they told me I had

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Speaker 3: It's brutal, especially when you start like working your way

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Speaker 1: think Darren's vision is about putting things together at the

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Speaker 1: right time.

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Speaker 2: He's one of those.

446
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Speaker 1: Producers where he can put the pieces together really brilliantly

447
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Speaker 1: like someone else and kind of feel the zeitgeisty type thing.

448
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Speaker 1: So he knew Candice and he optioned her book, but

449
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Speaker 1: then he brought Michael in because Michael knew how to

450
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Speaker 1: write jokes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because we didn't. The show is so funny.

452
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's surreal because you see these names on

453
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Speaker 3: your TV as you're watching the shows, and then when

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Speaker 3: you meet the people in real life, it's just like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, like I've watched you for so many hours,

456
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Speaker 3: and I feel like the comedy of the show. I mean,

457
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there was so much criticism of just like

458
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Speaker 3: having these sexually empowered women on TV back when the

459
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Speaker 3: show came out, but I think also just the comedy

460
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Speaker 3: of it all gets overlooked sometimes, where I'm like, first

461
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Speaker 3: of all, the comedic performances are genius, and I think

462
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Speaker 3: it is really difficult to like have these and I

463
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Speaker 3: think that's something we always try to do in Overcompensating,

464
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Speaker 3: just have these really earned art fault moments, but also

465
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Speaker 3: the comedy of it all. And sometimes it is physical.

466
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it is someone like having to swallow a bunch

467
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Speaker 3: of fish and then going to throw it up at

468
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Speaker 3: a Charlie XCX concert, which was very fun, which is

469
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Speaker 3: very funny. But I think it's you don't see as

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Speaker 3: many shows that are able.

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Speaker 1: To try or even trying. I think it's a very

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Speaker 1: hard thing to do. And that's one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I did love about our show, and that you know,

474
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Speaker 1: it's rare to you kind of in a weird way,

475
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Speaker 1: have to earn that opportunity to even make that show,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, And then I think actually executing that show

477
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Speaker 1: is so hard. And that's what I love about the

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Speaker 1: first season of over Compensating. That you start and it's

479
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Speaker 1: really fun, it's interesting, and you're like, you know, what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen? Is it going to come out as you

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, And then by the time we get

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Speaker 1: to your episode, it's so deep but also so funny,

483
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Speaker 1: but so earned, and the whole time you've been wondering,

484
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Speaker 1: like what's up with her?

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Speaker 3: At least I was know that people had a very

486
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Speaker 3: strong reaction to Grace in the first few episodes.

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Speaker 4: I think because the way it was written was like.

488
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Speaker 3: You you do really peel back the layers on all

489
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Speaker 3: the characters this season progresses, so I think people just

490
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Speaker 3: saw like, oh, she's a bitch for no reason. But

491
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Speaker 3: then it was so like expertly done that once we

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Speaker 3: go home and we see more of her interacting with

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Speaker 3: even like her the character of her boyfriend, Yeah, you

494
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Speaker 3: really start to understand, like what is motivating her.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, she's in some ways like the Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the beginning kind of underwritten a very

497
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Speaker 1: recognizable character.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're like, oh, I think I know her, but

499
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Speaker 2: why is she so uptight? Because you're like, why is

500
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Speaker 2: she so unhappy? Like that's interesting?

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Speaker 1: That's how I felt, right, And then I was like,

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Speaker 1: I hope they're going to give her more, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I just was watching by myself in the nighttime, right

506
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Speaker 1: when the kids are And then it was just such

507
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Speaker 1: a wonderful payoff when you did finally get to understand

508
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Speaker 1: and see and also divert a bit from you know,

509
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Speaker 1: the campus, and yeah, it took a lot of guts,

510
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Speaker 1: I think to do that in your first season to

511
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Speaker 1: be able to write that, and then you so beautifully

512
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Speaker 1: acted it, and it was so you were so rooting

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Speaker 1: for her, you know, and it's just so good.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the second season.

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Speaker 4: A lot of fun things in story. Yeah, it's I

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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Benny's so in the zone right now too,

518
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Speaker 3: Like everything he's sending us to look at is so

519
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Speaker 3: funny and so beautiful and it is so personal to him.

520
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Speaker 3: So I think there everyone in the room and on

521
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Speaker 3: the show on set, everyone feels a lot of like

522
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Speaker 3: care for the story, yes as well you should, and

523
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Speaker 3: playing the characters. One thing Benny always talks about with

524
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Speaker 3: the casting process is like playing these characters with a

525
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Speaker 3: lot of respect for who they are, not making them

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Speaker 3: these like reductive, sort of dumb college kids, which I

527
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Speaker 3: feel like you guys also did on Sex and the City.

528
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Speaker 3: It's like it's so easy to put those four main

529
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Speaker 3: characters into their little boxes, but you really feel the

530
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Speaker 3: depth and like the complexities, especially as the show goes on,

531
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Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, it just feels like a lot

532
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Speaker 3: of TV shows and not to I mean I watched

533
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Speaker 3: so much TV too, and some TV shows they don't

534
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Speaker 3: need to go so deep.

535
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Speaker 4: But like the ones I go back to those ones.

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Speaker 2: Great a great well.

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Speaker 1: I mean for us, we never thought we were in

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Speaker 1: our boxes. I mean that's the thing. As an actor,

539
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Speaker 1: you have to think bigger and deeper. And yeah, you

540
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Speaker 1: never I mean everyone else is going to do whatever

541
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Speaker 1: they're going to.

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Speaker 4: Do, write and interpret it or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I think there's also been a lot of reflection on

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Speaker 3: the show in the in the past few years, people

545
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Speaker 3: from different generations finding it. It's amazing, and I think

546
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Speaker 3: that's great and everyone can take what they want from it.

547
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Speaker 3: But I get very defensive of the characters. I'm like,

548
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Speaker 3: I just think you don't get it. Maybe you don't

549
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Speaker 3: get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes people don't get it. I mean certainly

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Speaker 1: with them, just like that. People sometimes got it, sometimes

552
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Speaker 1: didn't get it. And I think a lot of that

553
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Speaker 1: had to do with how old they were, right, But

554
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Speaker 1: you're young and you got it, so you never know, right.

555
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Speaker 1: But with the first show, and I think also Les

556
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Speaker 1: you're saying perspective, you gain perspective over time and for us.

557
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Speaker 1: You know, in the beginning, we were like the Girls

558
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Speaker 1: Show at HBO, you know, and we were the unseerious.

559
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Speaker 1: We were a big hit. Not not originally, but like say,

560
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Speaker 1: by season three, which is the episode we're watching, we

561
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Speaker 1: were I think we'd won our first Golden Globe, I

562
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Speaker 1: want to say, And we got nominated for an Emmy

563
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Speaker 1: that year, which we.

564
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Speaker 2: Never thoughtould happened.

565
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Speaker 1: So we got credit for a certain kind of success.

566
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Speaker 1: But the Sopranos was like.

567
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Speaker 4: The serious, like prestigie whatever.

568
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Speaker 1: And definitely prestigie. I mean we were prestige because we

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Speaker 1: were on HBO. We could say whatever we wanted.

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Speaker 4: It's prestige. To me, Well, it's.

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Speaker 2: Prestige now, That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gained I think it gained importance. I

573
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right word. It gained something

574
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Speaker 1: in time which has been so rewarding.

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Speaker 3: Well, it also feels like, I mean I was a

576
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Speaker 3: kid at the time, but it was sort of around

577
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Speaker 3: the same era as like the Spice Girls and all

578
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Speaker 3: these female pop stars coming up, and I feel like

579
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Speaker 3: there was this sort of I call it Spice Girls feminism,

580
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Speaker 3: but it's just this thing of like girl power, and

581
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Speaker 3: I do feel like maybe it coincided with you.

582
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Speaker 2: Yes, really, it's most definitely most huge audience, Sir Jessica.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll be mad at me for

584
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Speaker 1: saying this, but she used to play that Spice Girls

585
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Speaker 1: CD in the makeup trailer like over and over and

586
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Speaker 1: it's so good.

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Speaker 4: I mean over and over and over.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was a lot. It was a lot.

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Speaker 1: And then she would leave, and then Cynthia would put

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Speaker 1: on like, oh my god, Gypsy Rosie like like like

591
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Speaker 1: who's that belting lady on the Broadway like in the

592
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Speaker 1: forties or fifties, like the original Gypsy Rosley Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And Cynthia would put on an Ethel Murman, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny now, I know, and you just be

595
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Speaker 1: like oh. And then sometimes if they both left, Kim

596
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Speaker 1: and I would put on classical because we just needed

597
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Speaker 1: to chill, you know, make.

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Speaker 4: A palate cleanser.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a little palate cleanser. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot going on because we also we had to head

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Speaker 1: out on the.

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Speaker 4: Street, right, I mean filming in the in the bustling.

603
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Speaker 2: In the middle New York, excited in the.

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Speaker 4: It must or it must have been crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy in a good way. It added it

606
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Speaker 2: added a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think when you go on to a sound stage,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you guys film out in the

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Speaker 1: world in Toronto?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes we do. We have some in studio stuff and

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Speaker 3: then some that's like on location.

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Speaker 2: As they say, yes, location, but I would.

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Speaker 3: Say sex and the city for Benny and I, they're

614
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Speaker 3: real people to us, like we talk about it as

615
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Speaker 3: if we know these people. We have a joke on

616
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Speaker 3: our podcast that Alexander Petrowski died of COVID because he

617
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Speaker 3: refused to wear a mask. Don't you think he would

618
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Speaker 3: We wrote a fake obituation for him.

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Speaker 1: Or I mean I I wouldn't even say that out

620
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Speaker 1: loud because I do not want Barishnikov to die, right

621
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Speaker 1: and like for me, I can't separate. I get it,

622
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Speaker 1: I get it, see Like for me, Petrovsky and I

623
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Speaker 1: have only re seen the episode where we meet him.

624
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Speaker 2: I can't remember why I watched that one.

625
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Speaker 3: That whole stretch is like the way they reveal that

626
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Speaker 3: he is like kind of a nightmare.

627
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Speaker 4: I don't even remember gut wrenching.

628
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Speaker 2: I don't even remember when she when.

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Speaker 3: He cancels on meeting you guys, and then you go

630
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Speaker 3: there to meet him at a studio and he's so

631
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Speaker 3: fucking cranky.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember this.

633
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Speaker 3: They show up and he's like working on his light

634
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Speaker 3: installation or whatever. And you know, Samantha's wearing an afro

635
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Speaker 3: in the scene because she has cancer at the time.

636
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Speaker 3: It's I mean, that whole stretch is like, it's so

637
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Speaker 3: And that was when the show really felt more like

638
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Speaker 3: a movie, like The Last Reason, because it was like

639
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Speaker 3: a I think they did two half seasons it.

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Speaker 1: We really did one season and then they cut it

641
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Speaker 1: up because I didn't want to pay us more.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works.

643
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome, yes, and I love that.

644
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Speaker 3: But it really was just like it's so just it

645
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Speaker 3: was stunning, and I think so many ways we experience

646
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Speaker 3: that of just like there's this guy that is when

647
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Speaker 3: you're alone together, it feels like just like magic, of course,

648
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Speaker 3: but then when you bring in your own life you

649
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Speaker 3: just see how wrong it is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. It's really be interesting, very bath

651
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Speaker 2: that part. I have like really clear memories of some things.

652
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Speaker 2: Some things I have no memory. What's so crazy?

653
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Speaker 1: Ever, because we never slept we basically filmed all night long,

654
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Speaker 1: every night, almost yeah, right till the sun came up,

655
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Speaker 1: so like you're just not in your right mind. And

656
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Speaker 1: so some things are really like for instance, the episode

657
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Speaker 1: We're gonna watch Boy Girl, Boy Girl, because Alanis Morrisett

658
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Speaker 1: was on, I was very excited, yes, and also Sarah

659
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Speaker 1: Jessca was very nervous about the kiss. So I went

660
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Speaker 1: down there. I was not working, but I went down

661
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Speaker 1: there to be like moral support. But then because Alantis

662
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Speaker 1: was there and we were trying to like keep it chill,

663
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: not overreact, you know whatnot.

664
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how we did it honestly.

665
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: Right because also like she's really young, like she must

666
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: have been at the height of like the whole thing.

667
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: I can't even I don't even know how she ended

668
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: up on her show.

669
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure it was because it was a

670
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: massive hit, I guess.

671
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like did we know someone who knew her?

672
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Like how did it happen?

673
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: It's such a funny cameo because it's like very small,

674
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: so small, so you're like, oh my god, that'ss Morse.

675
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: I mean, and like baby Alanis morris said with the

676
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: little bread like I love her so much. I can't

677
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: even I can't anyway, I went down there, but then

678
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: there were so many people in that party scene that

679
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: it was like kind of like like overwhelming, and I

680
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to add to it, so I hung back.

681
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: But Sartus was also really nervous because this is not

682
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: something that she would be doing right, and it was Atlantis.

683
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on. So I went down there.

684
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: Why did I bring this up? I don't know.

685
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 4: You were up all night.

686
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I was up all night as always, But also like

687
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: we were in the bubble.

688
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking of, Like you

689
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: didn't really have other I don't feel like I was

690
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: tethered to normal life in any way during that time.

691
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: Like in the beginning, it was on and off, right,

692
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: like when you're filming, you're in the bubble, But once

693
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: we really got going, you were just in the bubble

694
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: all the time.

695
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys did so many episodes for most season,

696
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I would imagine some things You're like,

697
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 3: I just.

698
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: Don't remember that. I don't sometimes I remember something filmed

699
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 4: in for.

700
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Vivid, And also rewatching is so fascinating because of course

701
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: when you're in it, remember it. One way because you

702
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: remember what was happening on the set and whether you

703
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: like the actor you didn't or whatever, it was right,

704
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: and then now when you look back on it, like

705
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: like when I watch myself in this episode with Donovan

706
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Leach trying to be the man in the photograph, it's

707
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: just fucking fascinating and so different than how I remembered it.

708
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: It's bizarre. I mean, Charlotte is full of surprises.

709
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: She is, and I think that.

710
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I really do feel like, depending on the day,

711
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm I'm one of the four, just depends on the day.

712
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: Really, wait, so all four are incorporated in this.

713
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: I love it. I really think so of it because

714
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm very Type A.

715
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: One thing that I think for Charlotte, what I really

716
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: identify with is she's Type A and she's always willing

717
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: to put her heart on the line. As many times

718
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: as she is, like, you know, not even rejected, but

719
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: as many times as things don't work out. When that

720
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: next thing presents itself, she's ready to really like throw

721
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: herself into it, and I really identify with that.

722
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: Also, there was.

723
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: This one moment where I think, you say, like I've

724
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: been dating men for.

725
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: Ten years, where is he fifteen years where is he?

726
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: And I think about that line read all the time.

727
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

728
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: And I also think like Charlotte is certainly you know,

729
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: there are moments of judgment, but I also think it's

730
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: because she is maybe has the less. She just hasn't

731
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: met as many people. And then when she meets I

732
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: think she is very open minded. And I'm also judgmental

733
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: and open minded at the same time. Well, that's because

734
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm a Gemini, so I can be both. And I

735
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: get it, you know, from Samantha's perspective, like the sexual

736
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: empowerment I think is really important, and just showing a

737
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: woman that her age is not limiting her and she

738
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: dresses or what choices she's making. Yes, and Carrie of

739
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: course being a little selfish at times and.

740
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: Being a writer. That's how I feel I am.

741
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: And then Miranda being work obsessed and thinking she can

742
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: do her job just as good as a man, if

743
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: not better.

744
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: Of course, I mean good.

745
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Think about having those characters on TV. For me as

746
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: a high school student, I'm like, I can be anything.

747
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: That was really what I felt like. I love it.

748
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's critiques of it where I'm like, sure, whatever,

749
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: But to me, I don't see that.

750
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: I see it. I don't see how it limited anyone's worldview.

751
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: I think, if anything, I mean, of course, when I

752
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: look at it just like that, obviously it's wonderful that

753
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: there's a more diverse cast and we're seeing people who

754
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: have very different experiences. But for me at the time,

755
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: it was it felt like a lot of different experiences,

756
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: and I.

757
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Think it was for television at the time, a much

758
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: broader view of what it meant to be a woman,

759
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: what it meant to be a woman in the world,

760
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: and your choices.

761
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm thankful for that.

762
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it was nice to get to do even

763
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: a broader view in and just like that. And then

764
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: you and I were talking briefly before we started. We

765
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: said we would wait till we got here. You feel

766
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: that the ending of just like that, that Carrie should

767
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: find the love you want Carrie to.

768
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: That's what I want because I'm a hopeless romantic.

769
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: And also I think having a life full of beautiful friendships.

770
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: That's what I have right now in my family that

771
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: I love. But of course I still want to find

772
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: a partner. And I just you mentioned and there was

773
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: criticism when the first series ended about you all being

774
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: paired off and.

775
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: People were big mad Marybeth.

776
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: Those people are the same people that when I talk

777
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: about wanting a partner, they say to me, like, you

778
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: don't need one.

779
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I want one.

780
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Well, those are two very different things. Yeah, and why

781
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't you.

782
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: We've watched these characters pursue romantic love and their friendships

783
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: flourish at the same time. But I still want to

784
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: see them achieve what.

785
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: They want, right.

786
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: I think that might be one of the interesting points.

787
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure because I don't really have closure

788
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: on it, as I was saying, And I haven't even

789
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: watched the last two because I'm just in denial, right,

790
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: And I hope someday that we will come back and

791
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: do something.

792
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: But I do feel for Carrie.

793
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: If you look at Carrie, because obviously this whole new

794
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: thing about her being selfish, this was not something that

795
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: we thought about at the time or would have said

796
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: at the time.

797
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: Also, make she's the main character, absolutely.

798
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I think the thing that we thought of at the

799
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: time was that we wanted her to be complex, and

800
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: that was kind of unheard of in a woman main character, right,

801
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: Like as a woman main characters that you're supposed to be,

802
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: you know.

803
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Flirty and sweet.

804
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: And the rom comes of the nine choices exactly make

805
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: good choices or if you make a bad choice, then

806
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: regret it and rethink it and change it. Whereas we

807
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: were just ongoing storytelling in a really you know, free way.

808
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: It's great and HBO almost said nothing And.

809
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: It feels like real people because they're making mistakes.

810
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what we wanted.

811
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: And it didn't make any sense to us, at least

812
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: to me, like when the whole Narcissists Carried Things started,

813
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: which I feel like was during COVID or at least

814
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: when I saw it.

815
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: Pop had way too much time, y'all. Don't need to

816
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: be thinking about sex and the city that much.

817
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 5: Oh.

818
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: I enjoyed the show fun.

819
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I find it all fascinating, the way the conversation changes

820
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: over time, right, And so there was this time of like,

821
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: we don't like Carrie, and I was like, well, that's

822
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: bizarre and interesting.

823
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we need Carrie to go through all this.

824
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: To have a show exactly, you know, and movies and

825
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: then another show. But I do know what you're saying

826
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: in terms of like people, I'm single, You know, and

827
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: people are always very like, you know, please explain yourself.

828
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Which is you know, really unfair at a hard is.

829
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: It rocket science? I want to have fun with someone.

830
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but that's not where I am at this point, right,

831
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: So I think that's what confuses people. If I had

832
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: said that when I was thirty, I don't feel like

833
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: people would have I don't know what people would have said,

834
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: because at that point we were trying to avoid these conversations.

835
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah you could, right, I mean, you'd be surprised the reactions.

836
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: People look at me like I have you know, six heads.

837
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm just like, but you're married. The people i'm I'm

838
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: like the person I'm talking to say, so you get it, like, yeah,

839
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna, you know, throw away my whole life

840
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: in pursuit of romantic love. But obviously that's what I want,

841
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: like as the one part of my life.

842
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: So people get you like you're crazy because you want

843
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: something or because you want to have fun.

844
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: Because I want to at this point where I'm at

845
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: is like I would just love someone to Now I

846
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: get it's cool fun things, right, and I would love

847
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: someone to bring that wants to make out with me

848
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: at the end of the night.

849
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: Does that sound crazy?

850
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like that's kind of normal.

851
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: It is definitely normal. It is definitely normal.

852
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: This is what I think is interesting from my perspective,

853
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: like the thing that went through my head, because I've

854
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: definitely gone through many phases as the many times, you know,

855
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: thirty years i've been doing this, I've had times where

856
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: I had somebody who would come with me and I

857
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: just want to say, it can get complicated, you know,

858
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: and when yeah, it doesn't always go so smooth.

859
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: I know, it's like someone that is like a social

860
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: socially additive like that doesn't have a good time. I

861
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: know it is hard, it's so easy. But what I'm

862
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: looking for is very specific. I think it exists. But yeah,

863
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: ideally too, you're you're laying the foundation for something that's

864
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: more long term. But I did back to back long

865
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: distance relationships for five and a half years, so I'm

866
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: really I'm okay with, you know, feeling a lot of

867
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: control over my life right now and not having to

868
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: fly internationally like every three weeks. But I think, yeah,

869
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: it's of course I want great. And then that was

870
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And in my twenties I had

871
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: the energy for it. Now I don't so much, but interesting,

872
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: I want to call out some scenes from Sex and

873
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: the City I think about at least once per day.

874
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you?

875
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: Explain this? Why are you and Benny so fascinated with it?

876
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 4: The we love pros and it's just good writing.

877
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: It is good writing.

878
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: And I'm your wife and I'm sexual and I love you.

879
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, just you don't need any anything else,

880
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: you don't need any fluff. It's just like it's this

881
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 3: woman that just so badly wants to be seen.

882
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: So that's like.

883
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: Also, Kyle McLaughlin's so fabulous in our show, in your show,

884
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: such an iconic character, and he's so funny and so

885
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: like just nice, Yeah, like a nice man, and so

886
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: we loved having him on the show. Then there's a

887
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: moment where after Carrie is leaving BIG's apartment and Natasha

888
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: falls and the hospital and she's bag and she says,

889
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: we are over.

890
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: We need a new word for over.

891
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's huge.

892
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: Then there's also.

893
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: When Carrie talks about the pear shaped diamond that's really aid.

894
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: And trying to give her and really good and Samantha.

895
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't get her.

896
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just such a good reaction.

898
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: I mean there's a million also, like you broke my heart,

899
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: Carrie Aiden.

900
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: So oh that's really good.

901
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: It's closer to my heart this way when she wears

902
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: the ring. There's just so many moments that are like

903
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: brund in my brain. I just yeah, I think it's

904
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we could do a whole other episode about

905
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: the clothes, and I will say in a single again,

906
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm I watched the show right after my breakup, and

907
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: I've been wearing my heels out as I'm wearing right

908
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: now because I have all these shoes and I'm just

909
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: like you, the show really inspires me to just like

910
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: wear the clothes that are hanging in your closet that

911
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: you were so excited to buy. But that wearing feels

912
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: like more of like it's going to be like an

913
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: element of the evening, right and I'm just like, I'll

914
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: be uncomfortable.

915
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: Oh sure, Jessica would really love you.

916
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

917
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: I all the characters too, I mean all the different

918
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: styles that you guys wear.

919
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: It's so true to the characters. But my god, you

920
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: look good. Thank you. I mean every outfit is flattering.

921
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: It's oh thank you. They weren'd hard man, I mean,

922
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was such a process and

923
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: Pat very genius level, and Molly, who was with us

924
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: from the beginning, who didn't just like that. I mean,

925
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: we have such an incredible time and it is it's

926
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: a rare, rare situation that you get to have, like,

927
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: first of all, just total freedom and coture.

928
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.

929
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: And you know, back in the day it was a

930
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: hardcore cuture where like we felt the pressure to have

931
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the newness and remember there's a whole drama about sir

932
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: Jisca wanted I can't remember who it was something and

933
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: it was on the runway and so we had to

934
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: send an assistant to roam or oh my god, stood

935
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: waiting for it to come off the runway, took it,

936
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: got on a plane, flew back.

937
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, that's amazing.

938
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 6: I know, but fully insane because it's artistry, like at

939
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: every level, which it was beautiful, yes, And that's the

940
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 6: thing that people would ask me about with the show,

941
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: the first show especially, and true with the second show

942
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: in a slightly different way, but the first show, because

943
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: there was nothing else like it, right, and like in

944
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 6: the beginning when we had Molly come on and talk

945
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 6: about the costumes.

946
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: In the beginning, she said, we had ten thousand dollars

947
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: for the whole first season.

948
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 4: Nuts, it seems that just seems like fiction.

949
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: No, it's true, that's true.

950
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: Well she did a great job. I mean did they

951
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: did a great job.

952
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: But there was play Century twenty one down at the

953
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: tip of Manhattan all there.

954
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, remember they lived there. People used to think Molly

955
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: worked there wear the belts.

956
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably knew she did, she did, And I

957
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: remember going there with them and like you know that

958
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: there's a little tiny green skirt with the ruffle in

959
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: the back. Thing is Sella McCartney Century twenty one.

960
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 4: Wow.

961
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it took a while for us to build

962
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: up our relationship with the designers, to get things lent

963
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: to us. Like we first of all, no one knew

964
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: what we were doing. Second of all, it took a while.

965
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: We had to be photographed a certain amount of time.

966
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: And then Sir Jessica had her good relationships and she

967
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: was kind of a good example of like how to

968
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: make a relationship with designers.

969
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: You had to go to the shows back in.

970
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: The day, and like kind of like pay homage and

971
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: work on that relationship and return everything immediately in pristine conditions.

972
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Respect for the garments, right, respect absolutely, And also they

973
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: needed them, they needed those samples, yeah, you know, but

974
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: also there was a lot of pressure about that, you

975
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But when I look back on it,

976
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean I just felt the pressure at the time,

977
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, was I thin enough?

978
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: That was really my major conversation in my head.

979
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: You know, not fun, but that was the truth. And

980
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: then also like were we you know, was Charlotte?

981
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Like I was always really concerned about the character, you

982
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say, which when I look

983
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: back on I'm like, yeah, it was good. You guys,

984
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: this is so much fun that weird have to have

985
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: a part two, so join us later in the week

986
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: on are You a Charlotte