WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 10/20: Jaguars Recap, Evaluating Offensive and Defensive Performances and Injury Updates 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 This episode Patriots Postgame Show is presenting by Draft Cans. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.760 This is the Patriots Postgame Show presented by Draft Kings. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.240 Marsh shot dive to the episode Touchdown. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.280 Patriots join the conversation by calling into the DPX hotline 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.200 at eight five five Pats five hundred or email the 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.840 show at podcast at Patriots dot com. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:25.640 And off to Stevenson. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.080 Well, let's clip big Hole across the forty, cuts left 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.920 the forty five and steam rolls the Defender. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.880 There live from our studios inside Jullette Stadium. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:43.600 Here's Matt Smith. Hey, you ready over there? Well, time 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:43.839 to go. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.840 Yeah, you might know you've been gone a long time. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.159 I don't shine shoes no more. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.800 You got to open the show and look there's I 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.519 got all these papers in front of me, got all 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.640 this stuff. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.600 Uh, people are blaming you for the loss, just to 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.200 let you know. That's the word from the UK. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.400 Yeah, because first loss on the Patriots season. And what's 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.200 different is that I'm here so correct. I take full accountability. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:11.319 Welcome into the Patriots Postgame Show, which is presented by DraftKings, Sarah, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.440 I got one thing done correctly. Welcome in and you're 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.480 you're welcome to join us here eight five five pats 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.280 five hundred call into the TPX outline. You can also 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:26.920 email the show. It's a new email address. Podcasts plural 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.080 at Patriots dot com. Hardy, Paulparillo, Mike des here to 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.000 break down the loss to the Jaguars in London thirty 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.080 two sixteen The final, Boy, it did not appear to 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.480 be trending that way early in the game. Your initial thoughts, please, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:43.240 Paul Parillo. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.080 Yeah, I mean I thought they you know, a lot 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.200 of our keys had to do with getting off to 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.840 a better start, and I thought they got exactly that. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.600 They have a beautiful drive to open the game. Eleven 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.080 play sixty eight yards six twenty eight off the clock, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.680 seven to nothing. They respawd with a three and out defensively, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.720 then they get the ball, they drive again, twelve play 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.320 field goal drive and you're like, okay, here we go 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.760 ten nothing getting to play the game on your terms. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.680 Nothing after that was positive at all. This was a 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.280 butt whoopan I mean, Jacksonville was vastly superior for the 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:21.600 last three quarters of this game. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.760 Yeah, I mean, I just I'm in shock with the defense. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.480 I think I said it before. I was worried about 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.360 they just Jacksonville had their number all day long, whether 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.360 they I mean when they run eighteen straight times at 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.959 one point, I think that kind of says it all 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.600 in a game where you know your couple scores down, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.440 I mean, it's not a total blowout at that point, 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.560 but Jacksonville just able to control the line of scrimmage 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:42.560 all day long. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.600 So many of the runs it just looked like we 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.600 were joking Paul in the middle of it. Where have 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:47.799 your pick? Which hole do you want? 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.760 I mean, who was the old running back from Pittsburgh 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.480 used to live Leveon Bell. You know, it was like 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.200 one of those where he kind of like pause for 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.560 a second and you're like, would I go here? 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.280 Should I go there? 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.440 Dominant effort on the ground from the Jacksonville jag I 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.000 thought they're attack early on, especially through the air. Targeting 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.280 some of the Patriots linebackers was dead on. And you 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.959 know Trevor Lawrence, I mean, he's he's a really good player. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.600 He had time and they picked them apart. However, they 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.560 kind of wanted pretty much from the second quarter on. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.600 And they really didn't even have to do it in 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.880 a common sense approach, you know, at a halftime, Trevor 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:23.120 Lawrence I think was nine of ten on his completions. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.080 And for the game he's fifteen for twenty four hundred 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.000 and ninety three yards. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.120 So you would think, oh, with that kind of success 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.320 in the passing game, they must have thrown the ball 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.280 a lot. No, they went out ran the ball in 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 the second half and we're doing it at will. So 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.720 why take the chance of anything going wrong in the 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.880 passing game when you can run the ball too? Well? 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.560 Weren't you completing a lot of throws? Yeah, but we 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 didn't even have to just go out there and run 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.960 the ball and pick up first down after first down, 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.000 and just take time off the clock and build upon 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.000 that lead that that you had at halftime, when again 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.800 it looked like you'd jump out to that ten nothing lead. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.400 This is what we wanted from the Patriots. Play with 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.880 the lead and see how that works. Well, if you're 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.360 going to be so porous defensively, it doesn't work that way. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.720 It only works when you can get stops and they 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:11.440 couldn't get. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.280 And I have a confession to make, and I was 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.920 you know, everybody that listens to the show, you know, remembers, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.800 you know, the good old days right when I used 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.279 to have the nod. I was pretty close to like 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.839 giving a nod today, Like I personally thought the game 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.800 was over, you thought there was gonna be a nod. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.880 I thought Jacksonville looked lifeless, like we had all talked 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.280 about heading in, you know, throughout the week. The first quarter, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.480 I thought Josh heinz Allen looked like he had no 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.360 interest whatsoever being on the field for Jacksonville. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.719 The Cisco that. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:47.080 Guy, he looked like he had no interest in tackling. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:48.359 I was pretty close, you know. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.520 The Patriots looked like they they had brought some intensity, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.040 you know, a renewed energy, and I was pretty close 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.240 to saying if the Patriots could have gotten a stop 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.479 on that drive and they go up ten nothing, I 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.360 was like that, this is it. And then Jacksonville went 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.120 right down the field and scored and it never got stopped. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.800 The hasty TD it kind of looked like, is anyone 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.040 gonna tackle Let me Josh Hall. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.840 There was no interest whatsoever in tackling the Jacksonville in 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.800 that first drive. And then to their credit, their defense 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.680 played well the last three quarters. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.960 There's something that happened toward the end of the game. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.680 Which bugs me to no end. It bugs me when 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.360 I see it in virtually any game. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.640 Something tells me that's gonna come up on the bad list. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.839 Okay, well, I don't know if it's going to because 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.000 you may defend it as as a scholar of the 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:34.760 game point. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.159 Without knowing exactly what you're gonna say. I'm gonna go 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.040 on a limit say I'm not gonna defend it. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.359 Oka all on the same page. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.800 Maybe we'll see what you say, but I think we 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:42.320 might be Do. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.599 You want me to say it now? Can I just 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:48.440 say it right now? Going for the two point when 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.520 you're down fifteen, All right, let's get the two point 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.960 conversion out of the way. Now, Why why, why, why 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.520 don't you make it an eight point game? And if 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.440 by some miracle you make it back to the end zone, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.800 you'll have the momentum of having scored twice and everything 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.159 is on your side at that point, and now you 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.400 know you have it. Instead, you put yourself where you 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.520 know we still got to score two more times. Well 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.359 you didn't have to. If you just got it to 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.320 within eight, then a touchdown and two point conversion still 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.560 ties the game. Instead, we're gonna shoot ourselves in the 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.400 foot early on on this and put ourselves into a 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.719 position where we're playing from behind the eight ball again. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.040 I don't get it. I see it. I see it 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.599 all the time, and the book tells all these guys 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.760 the same thing, go for too early. I don't understand 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.440 the mentality. You know what you need, you know what 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:43.840 you need. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:44.919 That's what everyone just says. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.120 You'd be safe at home. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:48.160 Do you want to do? 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:48.520 You want? 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:49.800 You want to go? You want me to No, you 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:50.120 can go? 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:50.279 No. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.160 I like my mind is and we're complaining about the 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.680 same thing. But even when you get to the point 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.039 where the Patriots get the ball back and they're down 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.160 nine points, it's like your whole team demeanor is different 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.119 than if you get it back and you're down eighty points. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.480 You're like, hey man, we're one score away. Now, it's 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.799 like you're down nine. Even if you go down and score, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.440 you know you're gonna have to do it again. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:08.599 I don't get it. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.080 I'm sure there'll be someone who calls in and dismissively 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.800 just gives us the well, you want to know what 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.640 you need? That that line, which I still I'm with you, guys. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.080 I don't get it. I don't get it. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.640 Get within one score, and like you said, Hardy, have 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:20.160 the momentum. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.080 If you score again and then get the two pointer. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.720 And to any time you've you know, you can point 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.800 to it as a success and someone will inevitably bring 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.400 up the Super Bowl. Well, you know, you go for it. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.600 You go for two early enough. You see what happened. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.040 Tom Brady ain't back there. That's number one and number two. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.520 It is not a three or four score game. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.600 It's a two score the twos in the Super Bowl 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.760 with necessity, they were down sixteen. They needed two touchdowns 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:44.400 and two two's. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:45.200 Yes, but. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:48.720 We're gonna get to this a little bit more. But 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.840 I will just say I understand, and this is I 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.400 love the way Mike said it. Someone's gonna call in 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.840 and you can disagree with me all you want. I 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.640 don't care, but Mike said it perfectly. Going to call 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.120 in and dismissively tell us why we're wrong, and it 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.160 drives me insane. I'm not I'm not gonna dismissively tell 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.640 you you're wrong, but I'm gonna give you a lot of 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.760 reasons why I think it was wrong to go for two. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:14.080 There. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.440 You know again, we'll we'll get into it, but I 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.360 understand it's not easier to get the two point conversion 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.560 in the final seconds than it would be to get 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.520 it when you get as long as you will submit 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.160 for me that it wasn't easier to get it when 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.920 they went for it with eight minutes and twenty two 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:30.600 seconds left. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:32.120 Like that's the whole thing. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.360 These analytics guys tell you, Why is it easier to 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.120 get it in the final minute? Then if you don't 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.280 get it, the game's over. Well I got news for you. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.720 When you didn't get that with eight twenty two left, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:41.760 the game was old. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.600 Game was over. Yeah, I'd rather d the game late 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.040 as opposed to earlier. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.880 I would rather make the other team have to make 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.200 you know this is game on the line. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.640 One play and do you believe it? Yeah? Do you 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.080 believe in momentum? Do you believe it is at Mike's point? Absolutely? 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.560 So this is a trickle down effective things that happened. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.400 You ended up after that with a fourth and twenty six. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.760 You still had two timeouts left about two twenty five 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.480 left in the half, So you had two timeouts in 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.000 the two minute warning on fourth and twenty six. Had 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.720 you only been down eight at the time, hardy. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:20.720 Yes, you could have punted to see if you could 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.880 get a three and out usually two timeouts in the 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.960 two minute warning and get the ball back with two 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:26.520 minutes left. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.920 Down eight. You can't do that. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.400 But down down nine, don nine, We got to go 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:31.480 for fourth and twenty six. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.440 But you don't know what you're gonna need. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.160 But but the good news was they knew what they needed. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.200 I know they needed at least you knew. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:41.160 At least you know. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.160 And again you might put it perfectly. Someone's gonna tell 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.120 us why we're stupid, and that's fine. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:47.600 Like I get it. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.800 I just don't explain to me the reason. Like I 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.760 understand what your reason is. I disagree with it, like 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.880 it's Chris Rose did it during the games like this, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.920 you know at some point is there gonna be a 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.160 two point conversion classic. I understand all the reasons that 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.640 people say. I can live with the down fourteen thing. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.480 Down fourteen in the fourth quarter. A lot of teams now, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.840 when you get that first touchdown, you go for two 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.199 because you're trying to win in regulation. If I can 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.440 get the first one, then I can kick it on 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.760 the second one and win. I don't agree with it, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.000 but I understand that at least I'm still within a score. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.239 The nine point thing, to me is indefensible. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.040 That's it, the nine point And that's such a difference 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.680 between eight points and nine points for the team's point 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.240 of view at the end of the game, like you're 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.720 down by eight, you just need a play it, really, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.320 like you know you're gonna be right in it with 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.280 a play. My mindset down nine is completely different if 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:42.240 I'm an offensive player. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.200 I'm gonna be honest. I watched the last three quarters 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.160 of that game. Had the Pigeons kicked the extra point 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.760 and got within eight, do I think that they would 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.240 have had a chance. No, I think that they got 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.120 thoroughly blasted on that last drive. Like, I don't think 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.800 they would have had a better chance to get a 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.000 three and out if they were only down eight than nine. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.640 But I would have liked to have gotten the ball 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.960 back at the end down one score instead of two. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:06.839 It would have been more. Yeah, got that too much, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.679 that's all. No, that's it, that's it. That's it. That's 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.440 all we really wanted. So we'll get to your phone 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.960 calls here, We'll get to your emails once again. Podcasts 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.760 plural at Patriots dot Com eight five to five, Pats 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.400 five hundred. We'll get them loaded up here. But first, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.480 it's the good, it's the bad, it's the injured. Were 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.400 still calling it that. Now it's time for the good. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:34.600 But goody, pretty good, the bad, and the injured. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:40.760 Ah ah, you are right, guy, Good, the bad, and 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.280 the injured, brought to you by the good players, the 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.079 bad players, and the injured players. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.800 In today's thirty two to sixteen loss to the Jaguars 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.400 in London, Hardy filling in for Matt Smith or Paul Parbrello, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.960 Mike dess as the honor of leading us off on 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.959 the lengthy good list. Mike, where will you start? 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.160 I'm gonna start with Drake May. I'm gonna put him 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.560 on there. Great start. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.839 I mean, I think it's more of a an overall thing. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.760 I mean, they know they lost the game, but didn't 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.280 turn the ball over today. I thought there were some 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.880 strides with that, and there were a couple we can 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.760 probably say those a little close, which I'll take though. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.520 I'll take close, going from you know, four turnervers who 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.200 was last week to none that it's just close ones. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.480 But I just was impressed with how comfortable he looked 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:18.800 out there. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.200 I thought that was just to me, especially right out 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.280 of the gate, it was like, man, this this kid 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.800 really looks like he's settling in a little bit. Had 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.040 some some nice pockets at times, you know, didn't really 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.920 get himself into much trouble. I'm sure of all this stuff, 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.720 we can probably go through and find a play here, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.320 play there where. It wasn't quite perfect for him, but 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.120 you know, went quiet for a long time with the offense. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.480 I kind of put that a little bit more on 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.360 the play calling when all of a sudden, we're trying 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:43.640 to run the ball a little more. I love they 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.680 came out, they were throwing the ball. Wanted to see 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.640 them kind of pick that back up, hit a few 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.679 big passing plays at the end with their with their 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.080 last scoring drive that they had. So I just thought, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.920 in a bubble, Drake, may this throw You're scene right 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.320 here to Hunter Henry, right on him, you know, throwing 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.880 it right as he's coming out of the break. So 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.600 I just thought it was a real nice developmental day 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.880 from Drake. I wish that the defense could have given 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.640 him some extra opportunities, gotten some more stops maybe than 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.120 we would have seen even more out of him, but 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.600 in the limited action that he was able to kind 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.079 of sling it out there. I liked what I saw 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.720 from him. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.560 So I had may on my list as well. Some 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.440 of the things that Mike said of the reasons too. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.679 You know, when I was doing my chin wag, yeah 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:20.719 on my. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.160 Shows, Yeah, on one of your shows. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.600 Yeah, Chris Gasper actually asked me, you know, what are 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.480 you looking for for Drake Maye today? What kind of 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.319 strides would you like to see? And you know, I 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.400 dismissed like the turnover thing, because like obviously, no one 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.400 wants to see their quarterback turning the ball over. But 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.600 I said, I'd like to see him look a little 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.040 bit more settled and comfortable, especially early in the game. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.400 In the pocket, Mike just talked about it. I thought 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.160 we really saw that. I thought he was real. He 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:50.040 looked really comfortable with the game plan, and I thought 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.280 he didn't look like he was running around into pressure 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.640 as much early, especially early in this game, as he 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.800 did last week. Now, the turnover thing is is kind 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.720 of circumstantial to you know, Mike alluded to it. He 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.600 threw a couple of he had both about three turnover 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.200 worth he plays two flat out dropped interceptions. So how 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.880 much differently do you look at the game if he 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.640 had two interceptions, Probably a little bit, but I would 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.920 stay with the same. I thought he looked more settled, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.360 more in charge of the offense. You know, you see 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.400 the difference on some of the balls downfield. You know, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.280 the ball to Booty was a really really nice throw. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.240 So yeah, I had Drake May on my good list too. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.000 I had him on there for a reason that I 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.200 will I will tag here when it's my turn to 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.880 go for the U for the good list. But yeah, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.960 twenty six and thirty seven for the two hundred and 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.960 seventy six yards, the two touchdowns, no picks, a couple 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.000 that were real close, but some of the some of 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.240 the game stuff that you're talking about, Paul, the ability 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.080 to recognize at this point, I could just throw the 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.960 ball at the at the feet of my running back 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.200 here a great uh and and and and get away 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.920 with an incompletion here as opposed to a loss. Stuff 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.720 like that. Good, Okay, I'll take it. We'll put him 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.960 on the good list, all right. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.760 Again, second game, if this is like second game of 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.840 his third season, and again, all of the productions coming 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.160 when the game's over. I'm not as forgiving, you know, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.080 but that play that he made right before the touchdown 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.840 to Osborne, that's a really really good play. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.440 That's a savvy veteran play. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.680 I'm going to roll out here, he's going to get me, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:26.760 but I got to back right there. I'm going to 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.280 backhand it right at his feet, live to fight another down. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.920 That was a really, really good play. I'm glad I 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.240 was a student enough to recognize it and bring it 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.720 up and somehow be elevated in the eyes of Paul. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.960 You got a little ball knower and thing or two 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.200 about a thing or two? What's your first good Paul ball? 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:46.520 All right? 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.160 So kind of in line with that is I'm going 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.080 to give Alex van Pelt in the coaching staff a 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.320 lot of credit for breaking the mold like they they 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.520 broke that start thing that we're talking about, first drive 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.920 touchdown in how many games like since Pittsburgh last year? 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.360 I think. Yeah. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.080 So I thought their opening script was was incredible. It 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.480 really had Jacksonville looking like every bit the team that 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.800 had to quit against Chicago last week. So I thought 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.000 everything that they did, they came out throwing the ball 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.040 I think they threw it on something like six of 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.840 the first seven plays. Something, you know, something in that neighborhood. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.280 They got may comfortable right away in a mix too, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.480 not just like bombing away some some downfield throw, some 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.440 underneath stuff, some quick, some a little bit slower developing, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.760 and you know, unfortunately, when that script was up, uh, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.440 the offense went went south. But I just thought the 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.840 opening game plan. You know, they usually script about fifteen plays, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.080 and it let's see, what were the two scoring drives 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.640 eleven and twelve, So that's you know, it was twenty 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.400 three plays that that opening script obviously was very effective. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.480 I want to give alexaman Pelt a little credit. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.800 That was my That was my first good the the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.600 opening drive. And you know, we've seen it for years. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.600 I used to kind of lament the fact that, even 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.800 when Tom Brady was here, you'd have that amazing opening drive, 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.359 you'd have the scripted plays, the ten twelve plays to 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.919 get you downfield score, and then things would stall and 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.000 I could never wrap my head around our defenses figuring 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.840 things out that early in the game. But is that 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.840 really all you came in with in terms of your 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.280 whole plan? That's your whole plan. Get her. You know 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.800 you're gonna come out with an opening drive and not 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.080 have much planned after that, but we've been lacking even 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.720 that for what seems like a while. I was happy 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.440 to see it return. Part of my Drake May good 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.640 came on how good things looked and that on those 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.600 opening two drives, and Drake may went beyond that and 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.040 played well beyond that for portions beyond those opening drives. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.760 So he belongs, I think, on the good list anyway. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:57.000 But kudos to both Vampelt and to the Patriots offense 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.880 for figuring things out and coming out with the league, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.000 which is one of the things we wanted. That's one 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.920 of the things I think we universally want to get 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.199 out there. Score first play with the lead. See how 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.080 that works out for you. We know how it did, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.080 but you know that's another story for another time. Yeah, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.640 all right, I got Hardy. 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:13.800 Yeah, you want to put somebody on here. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.920 Well, the opening drive was mine, so Paul took mine, 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.120 so I'll go to my second. That was Hunter Henry. Yeah, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:24.399 Hunter Henry eight catches on nine target targets for ninety 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.439 two yards. He has become, you know, the only thing 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.000 close to dependable in terms of a target for Drake May. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.200 And you know there there was the one off side 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.520 penalty that you really you can't afford, especially if you're 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.280 Hunter Henry. You're a veteran. You you can't not know 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.000 the snap count. I get it. That was you could 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.600 see drop Mail was really frustrated with Henry after that call. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.119 But in terms of being a weapon, he's he's it. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.760 He's it in terms of somebody that that Drake May 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.320 can can look forward to to come down with a 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.399 catch and help you move the chains little bit. So 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.600 Hunter Henry was my first good yeahs almost. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.159 I mean it's a kind of a cliche, the veteran 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.639 tight end of you know, supporting the rookie quarterback. But 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.440 some big catches for Hunter Henry. Another big, big game 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.880 for him, ninety something yards receiving. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.760 So yeah, he's uh, he's been. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.040 The safety blanket and hopefully that that relationship can continue to. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.120 Deep one down the scene that that catch was sick. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.480 he was covered like a blanket on that play. Kind 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.200 of head topped Darnell Savage. Yeah yeah, I mean he's 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.680 been he's been really good and he was really good today. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.280 All Right, what else he got dos. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.120 Oh, come on, kid, I got nothing else. 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.359 Come on, I got nothing else. Come hold on. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.160 Usually Paul's got some nuance the second court. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:41.160 No, he checked out. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.800 See the list, I checked all the three off the goods, 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:44.680 the goods over here. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.960 Yeah, yeah, no, that's that was it. I mean, where 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.080 else where else you're gonna point to. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.680 Joey Slide did make all his kicks though, didn't he? 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.720 Yeah, let's put him on the good list. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.320 I mean, I guess if you wanted to just sort 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.959 of like, you know, individual play, you know, like Hasty 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:03.879 makes a nice little catch and run for the touchdown, 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:04.960 but like we're talking about. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.160 Play like play, right, Yeah, I get it's not enough. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:14.359 It's not enough. All right, let's get to it. Deuce. Yeah, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.200 you're up again. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.560 I mean, first bad take your pick on the defense. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:18.880 I mean I don't I don't know where to where 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.400 to point the finger. I guess I'm just gonna start 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.680 by point at the coaching. I just think like it's 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.360 it's a it's a big thing. I'm not even really 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.439 going to pick on too many individual defensive defensive players. 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.400 But this is everything that's been happening in the last 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.840 couple of weeks and they look powerless to stop it. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.280 They got run over for one hundred and fifty yards 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.679 plus third week in a row. They just they they 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.960 had no answers today. I mean, at one point we 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:42.919 looked at Paul and he said, really, the only plays 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.560 they made to a certain point were just in completions 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.120 that you know, Jacksonville kind of dropped or like, you. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.640 Know, Lawrence throws one off of Kyle Kyle Douglas face 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.080 mask for one incompletion, Tank Bigsby drops a screen for 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.640 another one. You know, Christian Kirk, you know, may may 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.720 not have gotten that second footage bounds. Like, they didn't 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:06.320 have any like failed plays, you know, until like until 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.960 Jacksonville inexplicably decided not to make it a three score 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.800 game and and went forward on fourth in less than 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.800 a yard and then the Patriots stopped him. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:14.920 That was it. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.919 Yeah, they nothing. I mean, a couple of those red 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:18.600 zone stops. You could look at the stats and say 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.199 those looked okay, But I mean after that first you 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.000 know drive, they didn't focut the f stops. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.560 On eleven minute, twenty two second dry they don't do 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:27.080 much for. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.639 Him, and that points to it. I mean you know 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.080 that eleven minute drive. It's this is where the game's 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.000 in the balance. This is where you're you're kind of 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.879 scrapping your way back into it, or you're holding on 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.639 by a thread. At least they couldn't make the plays. 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:38.080 They can't. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.600 You know, were there any real like pressure, was there 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:42.720 any you know, there's none of that. Like we said, 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.679 with the run defense especially, I guess I'll put that 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.960 in the crossairs at the top too. It's just you're 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.119 not gonna win football games if you can't stop the run. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.000 The defense, the pass defense. You know, just as a 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.080 collector may have been up there too, but Trevor Lawrence 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.919 only attempted twenty passes. They didn't have to twenty passes 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:00.720 one night. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:01.360 It was just like. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.719 It felt like at a certain point, every time they 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.959 get the ball, even when it was competitive. 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:08.640 They were getting four or five six. 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.320 Do you feel like if Jacksonville decided to do what 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.480 they did, you know, like there was one stage in 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.520 the fourth quarter, I think they ran the ball something like. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:16.600 Eighteen straight plays. 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.359 Do you feel like if they threw it eighteen straight 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.760 plays the results have been the same, Probably because I do. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.280 No, Yeah, I mean that's all they wanted. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:24.960 It looked all day like that, and I mean, I 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.439 just I mean, like, let's call it what it is. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:27.760 That looked to me like. 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.480 The worst defense in the NFL out there on the 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:30.000 field today. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.679 Like that has to hurt, Mike, It does hurt. 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.640 But you know what, I'm a fan of extremes though, 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:36.200 so it's gonna be. 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.720 Bad, reactionary extreme, Like I don't. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:40.960 Want it to just be like, well, it was bad, 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:41.480 but it wasn't. 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.040 Like if you're gonna be bad, you gotta be really bad, 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:43.400 and they were. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.840 I agree with everything Mike said. I don't have any 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.560 defensive defensively, just you have it. 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.800 We have added ball. No, don't sell yourself short. We 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.800 both added to it. But it's time to move on. 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.040 We have a lot to get to it. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.199 This stacred and sixty four yards and like, I think 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.800 it could have been more than you kept. You know, 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.879 they lost a possession with the with the bunt return. 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.440 Otherwise that would have been another ninety yards drive. 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.000 I mean, there was four and a half a running play, 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:09.200 but it seemed like that's low. 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.400 I mean, because it got off to. 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.840 A reasonable like the first couple of runs were stuffed. 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.919 I thought they came out, you know, the first I 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.560 think the first drive that was a three and out. 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.359 They it was like run, run, and they got nothing. 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.159 And then all of a sudden it changed, and it 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.000 changed because they started throwing the ball on them and 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.160 once they had success throwing the ball. 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.560 I just I get the feeling that all of a sudden, 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.919 we might see a shift this week, especially on you 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:35.800 guys's shows, which I guess I'm kind of part of 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.040 it now too, so yeah, on our shows, on our 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:38.960 on our show. 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:40.120 But it's it's it's wow. 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.600 The offense, I mean, and it wasn't it wasn't an absolute, 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.879 you know, disaster for Drake May. And then the protection 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:46.800 and now everyone's going to come for the defense and 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.479 what that means and why I got this bad and all. 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.479 I mean, it's already I just want to make a pout. 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.160 The offense crossairs a little bit. 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.200 I would have wholeheartedly agreed that with Drake May playing, 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.320 it's different, so I look at it different. I had 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.480 Drake May on my good list. I agree with everything 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.359 that Mike said about Drake May. The bottom line is 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.240 the offense, this is now two weeks in a row, 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.360 has been very similar in production to. 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:10.959 What it was. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.960 Yes, they don't score, they don't move the ball like 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.720 consistently for the game. Again, your sub three hundred yards 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.440 of total offense this week was even I think more 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.000 glaring than last week in terms of you piled up 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.119 about one hundred yards that were meaningless. At least last 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.600 week there was more time left when you scored. You know, 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.720 this week it was kind of like you just get 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.920 up an eleven and a half minute drive. You haven't 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.439 done anything since the first quarter, and all of a sudden, 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.120 you have a thirty two yard scene route to Hunter 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.679 Henry that he makes an unbelievable catch on, followed by 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.880 a thirty three yard pass to Kaishan Boody. They did 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.880 nothing basically for the last three quarters of this game. 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.480 That's a great preemptive strike. I feel like everyone's just. 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.000 Sick of talking, but everybody no, no, Today they're going 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.720 to be like, now it's time, we're going to kill 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:57.320 this defense. 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.480 And the difference to me today from last week is 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.840 today you got off to a really good start offensively, 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:02.920 You were really really. 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.320 Good in the first quarter. You set the defense up 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:06.080 for success. 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.359 The defense let you down today, whereas last week, the 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.840 defense kind of got hung out to drive by the turnaments. 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.080 Sure you know you didn't do that and they. 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:15.760 But this to me was every bit as bad as 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.959 last week defensively, and the offense helped them early on. 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.240 So yeah, there was just nothing really good. 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:24.160 They can't get off the field. 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.240 They can't get off the field. But was it six 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.720 for ten seam worse than that one drive? That eleven 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.360 minute drive had like three or so right in a row. 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:33.760 There are down conversions? 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:34.479 Yeah, three. 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.240 Yeah, we're supposed to be doing the good list here, guys, 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.160 come on, you know we're doing the bad list. Oh 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.320 that's right, the bad list. Sorry, I'm sorry, but we 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.400 got off the good list so quickly I couldn't even 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.639 believe we're already onder the bad list. All right, So 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:46.879 I defense. 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.240 A lot of a lot of that at all. 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:54.560 Okay, so everything encompassing the defense, But when you're talking 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:58.680 about offensively and and you know where things go wrong 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.399 beyond that on that first drive, because on the first drive, 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:10.040 multiple receivers targeted, you know, multiple players employed involved. Absolutely, 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.520 But if you're going to start going bad on the offense, 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.000 ball not that this is your first, bab, but I'm 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.359 curious as to where you start. 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.399 I would start with Jalen Polk, I you know, and 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.520 this is he's a rookie, and I get it. And 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.080 right there, I had a whole thing this week, you know, 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.960 and I I'm not like the kids played now seven games. 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.280 I'm not out on Jalen Polk. I'm still not out 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.000 on them, but it's not trending in the right direction. 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.280 And I was a little troubled Mike By and Mike 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:40.840 and I talked about this during the weekend. I was 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.840 very surprised that Mike agreed with me on this because 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.080 it's something that normally we would odds and he's a contrarian. 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:48.439 He is. 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.480 See. 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.080 So there was a couple of things, and I mentioned, 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.919 you know, he had the clips that he's like, you know, 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.679 putting up about the referees of screwing them, you know, 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.159 with these plays that are clearly out of bounds. Right, 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.400 And then he and I went back to that comment, 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.520 like he got really mad at the fans because they're 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.240 not with them. You know, if they're not with us, 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.520 we don't want them, you know, Like he haven't played 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.919 a game yet, bro right, you know. And now the 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.080 most recent thing, which at the time I made this 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.080 rant that I'm talking about with Mike, I didn't even 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.200 know about yet because it hadn't happened. Gerd Meos says, yeah, 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:27.840 you know, he's he's fighting it a little bit. He's 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.080 got a mental hurdle he's probably got to need to 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.040 get over a little bit after the drops last week. 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:32.320 Yep. 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.720 He responds by saying, I don't have any mental issues. 0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.800 I had the best hands in football. Then he goes 0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.399 out and drops the first two balls thrown in his 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:40.119 direction today. 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.360 Correct, So two things about that bothered me. Number one 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.280 is the best hands in football thing. There's one thing 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.199 to have confidence. Then there's one thing to just you know, speak, 0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.280 you know. And Mike Jusso ask hyperbole, right, I mean 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.679 that's crazy. But the fact that he can't make a 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.840 distinction between his head coach saying something as a knock 0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:02.720 you is you got a mental block there and him 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.480 taking it as I'm not crazy, I'm out. I don't 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.840 have anything meant not really soft. Yeah, what do you 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.800 call me like some kind of mental defective air? No, no, no, no, 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.040 one's saying that, Jalen. That is not at all what 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.479 is being said about you but to take it so 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.119 personally and to take it so seriously where he's trying 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.000 to help. He's trying to help you. He's saying you're 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:28.920 a good player. He's saying you've got good hands. It's 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.880 just a little little confidence iss you get over that. 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.720 You should be taking that as a positive as opposed 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.360 to getting your feathers ruffled over it. To me, that 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.000 really says to me that. 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.160 That validated with Mike and I were talking about during 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.680 the week when he had that comment about Mail, like, 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.360 you know, I'm not Yeah, I don't have any mental problems, 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.480 So I think it We figured it out last week. 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.040 It was ten catches on twenty three targets or something 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.880 like that. So he was zero for three today, three targets. 0:28:58.480 --> 0:28:59.080 No catches. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.080 That doesn't count the two point conversion that he slips 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:02.560 and falls on. 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.960 Yep, it was. It was a slippery field. 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:06.719 It was. 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:11.920 It was so he's he's just not he's not been 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.160 reliable for them. And I thought if there was one 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.880 word I could I could put on him out of 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.880 training camp. Mike knows that I'm not wasn't super super 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.200 high on him. But the one thing I would say 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.080 that I was oppressed with was his reliability. He was dependable. 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.080 You threw it to him, he caught it. It wasn't 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.400 always the biggest gains, but he caught it. Right now, 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.600 we're having problems making connections with him. The off field 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.520 stuff is a concern with him. He's trending in the 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:37.040 wrong direction. 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.720 What hurts is you need him right now, and that's 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.720 you know, you're not going to get very far with 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.720 just Hunter Henry and Sorry Douglas to catch his fourteen yards. 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.960 I don't know if they gave him any specific attention. 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.360 I know he was kind of in and out during 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:49.760 the game, which is something with Douglas. 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.680 Douglas, Yeah, he had an illness and I should mention 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.640 that Polk ended up not finishing the game with the 0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.080 head injury injury and they declared him late in the 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:00.640 game as being out for the game. 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:02.560 So I don't know what's. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.400 Going just they need that guy though, They need somebody 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.120 on the outside, and I mean, you're not going to 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.640 be able to get it done with just a tight 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.280 end and a slot receiver, and they're waiting for one 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.480 of these guys to step up. Booty's one big catch 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.000 a game. That's that's not gonna. He wasn't making happen. 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.520 He wasn't open today. A couple of times they looked 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.240 his way. One of them was got erased by a penalty. 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.040 But the one time he got open, he made the 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.360 playdown the field. But there was a couple of balls 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.200 thrown in his general direction. I don't know if they 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.120 were necessarily targeted to him, but he didn't look like 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.600 he was as open today as he was at times 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:34.000 last week. 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.840 Yeah, I think they need somebody else. 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.640 They need, they need a receiver to step up. 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.840 Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw one out here on 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:42.959 the bad list, and I want you guys to explain 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.240 to me why it's not all that bad or why 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.280 I'm looking at it the wrong way. Okay, but I 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:52.040 have Ramandria Stevenson on my bad list today. Okay, I 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.480 won't necessarily push back on it, but this is a 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.800 case of you know, and we've talked about this many 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.360 times over the years. Philosophically, we're looking at is from 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.040 a very patriot centric standpoint of the game. If you're 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.720 watching this game as a neutral observer, do you say 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.600 Ramandre Stevenson had a bad game or the Jacksonville run 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.640 defense was very good. I get it. 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.520 He got a little existential crisis there that you got 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:17.000 going on. 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.640 Because what more did you both? What more did you 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.760 want him to do today that he didn't do. It's 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.120 not like you fumbled the ball, No, you know, it's 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:29.600 it's not like he was running backwards and trying to improvise. 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.560 There was There were plenty of instances today. There was 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.320 just nowhere for him to go. 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.920 I would agree with that, Mike. Do you he wasn't 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.400 necessarily on my list, but I'm not necessary. I don't 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.400 think it was like a what are you crazy? He 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:44.040 had a great game? 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.120 No, Kevin seven for eighteen. That's kind of how I 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.640 felt about thirty eight rushing yards total for the team 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:49.880 to day. 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:50.880 It was just kind of it was kind of how 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.400 I felt about the defense to where it was just 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.920 like eighteen of them from dr a bad effort. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.000 Yeah, your running backs combined for twenty yards today. 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.280 Yeah, I mean the game, which is weird because you thought, 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:02.280 I don't believe it. 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.680 Look at that it's over here for me. 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:07.880 I mean, you would have thought after they got out to. 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.600 A ten point lead that they'd have more than fifteen 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.120 carries in the whole game, you know. 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.240 Yeah, but they couldn't they couldn't run the ball. I 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.280 think that they I think they wanted to throw it 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.920 to get a lead Mike and get off to a 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.400 good start with Drake May, and then they wanted to 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:21.280 sort of mix in the run. 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.160 And you had mentioned in the middle of your your 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.720 Drake May boosh that the play call. 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.680 I didn't think there was really anything wrong with play 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.560 calling today. I just don't think they executed it all 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:34.320 in the last three quests. 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.320 It might have literally just boiled down to a couple 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.920 like first and second down throws on those middle possessions 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:40.440 where they ended up having a punk where it. 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.240 Just felt like he got a little wild in the. 0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:44.080 You know, there was a couple I mean there was 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:45.120 one driver. They went backwards. 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.560 I think that might have been the first punt to day, 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:47.640 like even the field goal. 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.680 The field goal drive, I thought he had borne coming 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.600 across and you kind of threw a wobbler that looked 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:54.920 like he came out of his hand a little funny, 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.160 a little bit out in front of him. I thought 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.640 it could have been caught, but it wasn't a great throw. 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.960 I thought he got a little a little way, but 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.320 yeah they did. They didn't run the ball well at 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.240 all today, not all where else. 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:06.640 You want to go on the bad list their duce. 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.880 Ah God, I feel like I'm just so mad at 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:10.440 the defense. Can I go back to them again? 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:10.760 Yeah? 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.000 Yeah, No, I just big plays, big plays again. And 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.080 that's I mean, maybe it's under the same umbrella as 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:17.360 what I said earlier. 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:18.720 But the bomb was a big, big play in the 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.120 game momentum. 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.160 Yeah, I mean, it's just they can't stop the big plays. 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.320 And that's you know when. 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.360 You just you talk about fundamental defense hardy when you're 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.600 team up in the pregame show, and that's you know, 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.560 it's one thing to be bad at tackling, but then 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.960 if you start giving up big plays, it's just it's 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.640 pick your poison right now. In a bad way for 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.880 the Patriots defense, they can't get off blocks, they can't 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.000 make tackles for losses in the run game, you know, 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.680 they can't really put the offense in it, you know, 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.640 in bad situations. Everything just felt like the whole game 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.160 from that first possession on was Trevor Lawrence and the 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.360 Jags kind of dictating what they wanted to do. And 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.320 oh yeah, they got a penalty, so all right, a 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.280 little all right, but they just made it right back okay, 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.160 in another eight yard run. 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.120 So so big yard big plays. 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.640 The bomb the past to Thomas fifty eight yards, okay, 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.680 which which set up the second. 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:04.880 I mean, let's put Gonzo in there. Maybe we can 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:05.640 put gonzwn I. 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.560 Had zero bomb, you know, you know that whole that 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.439 whole sequence, because that's a six play, eighty eighty two. 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.920 Yard drive something like that. Watching it in real times 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.360 for eighty two, I had the same thought that you did, Paul, 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.560 which was the coverage wasn't bad on that? Yeah? Then 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.480 I saw the replay and then you see that Tomas 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.160 he gets he gets behind him, and let's let's give 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.879 Trevor Lawrence credit here. Throw what a pass? Yeah, good 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.520 throw in good catch, Yeah, good throw, good catch. But 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.399 that is the momentum changer for that game. You jump 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.600 out to a ton nothing lead, and after that pass, 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.520 you put the Jags in position to take the lead 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:42.239 fourteen to ten. 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.719 I agree, and that's it. That's I mean, that's a 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.960 good throw too. To Christian Kirk, you know, I thought, 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.239 like I said, I thought, if if Jacksonville wanted to 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.120 make this, you know, like a forty forty pass attempt game. 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.800 I think it would have been thirty two to sixteen. Yeah, 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.680 you know, like I just think they could have done 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.520 whatever they wanted. And that was too easy, by the way. 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:02.319 That was that the. 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.640 First touchdown, the one to thomasin right in the middle, 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.719 that was way too easy. He was wide open right 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.400 off the snap. You could see it on the on 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:09.360 the television screen. 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:10.400 You didn't need the ALL twenty two. 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:11.799 I didn't need the ALL twenty two. 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.479 I just needed two eyes and needed too, not twenty two. 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.600 There it comes there. 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:18.640 Oh man. 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.120 So like you watch that, you see like like see 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.920 here's where you can see how much he gets beat by. Look, 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.480 that's a lot of separation right there. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.080 Yeah, that's two folds, you know. And if I think if. 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.319 The throw the throw was the throw was pretty good, 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.880 but I think if the throw was more toward the 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.040 middle of the field, he might catch that in stride. 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.080 And uh, it's a lot on Gonzalez right now, but 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:39.640 they need they need more from him, I mean the 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.040 last couple of weeks. I mean, if they're going to 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.840 be this bad on defense, you just have to be 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.440 able to count on something and right now he's just, 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:46.920 you know, a little bit off. 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.080 With these really good receivers. 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.120 Digs last week on the touchdown, similar kind of plate 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.080 this week. Brian Thomas, who's the youngster. Brian Thomas just 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.359 kind of had the edge on them all day. 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.800 And unfortunately for Gonzales, it's not like things got easier 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:01.479 for him within the division this pass. 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.120 Why did someone get a new star receives. 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.120 He's a couple of couple of teams, a couple of 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:07.920 guys worried about that. 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:09.920 And I keep saying the same thing with Gonzales, And 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.320 I know people think I'm a broken record, and I am, 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.200 But when I see the locked up one on one, 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.239 I see that a lot, and I wonder if that's 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.080 why they don't lock him up one on one with 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.319 the other team's best receiver. I know the announcers say 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.880 it every week, but Evan comes in every Tuesday and 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.160 tells me that that's not the case. He comes in 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.799 with numbers of how many times he's man to man 0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.279 on the other team's number one receiver, and it's not 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.080 anywhere near as often as it's sort of made out 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.840 to be. In the aftermath of these games, you know. 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.040 I mean, you had someone on Twitter today claim that 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.520 Michael Winnu allowed his first sack of the season as 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.600 a tackle. I'm like, I'm sorry, that's not true. Like, 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.840 I don't care if you credited him with giving up 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.640 a tackle. He's given up tons of pressures and tackle 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:53.440 in sacks. 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.680 I thought it was his year. I was pronounced I knew, 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.160 which is how I heard on the telecast today or 0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:59.960 something else along with City Sue. 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:05.000 So, so, do you have a bad that you would 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:05.920 like to contribute to this? 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.960 I got a special teams. I mean, ninety six returns not. 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.759 Great, So I would add to that ninety six yard 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.360 part return, which obviously is completely unacceptable. But then you 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.600 go offside on the extra point which allows them to 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:22.120 go for two. 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.920 I that's a that's quite a little. 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.400 That's a a double whimmy. 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:33.759 Quite a little double whimmy. That's pop pop bang. It's 0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.240 I miss Hardy. Sorry Matt. By the way, Matt Smith 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.480 calling in today for the pregame. Great to have him here. 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.719 And Matt Smith will of course return and we will 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.360 have the interim host back next week presonably. Matt Smith 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.839 is the internmost that's right, that's right. 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.640 No, in all seriousness, I know he's not listening, but 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.000 I'll say it anyway. He's doing a great job and 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.640 we're having uh, we're having some fun. Mike and I 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.319 have pull the fun out of him, you know what, 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.160 he wanted to be really serious at first. We're trying 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:05.440 to rip the fun right out. 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.160 Of Let's rewind a little bit. Let's put Matt Smith 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:16.120 on the good list. You know what, he gives good phone. 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:17.480 What was that? 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.799 I don't have any other bads? No, I mean, oh, 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.399 you have any other bads. I could spend the next 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.000 hour talking about how bad the defense was. 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.319 But yeah, so yeah, we I think we exhausted the 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.640 decision to go for two, right, Oh yeah, I think 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.240 I think that I hated the game with eight twenty 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:34.560 two left, I think. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.520 That doesn't even necessarily belong on this show talking about 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.239 in the game because I hate it in general and 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:41.279 eate hate it. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.719 Fourth and three from their own thirty seven early in 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:45.640 the second half. 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.520 I believe they do the fa coctai. We're going to 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:49.279 try to draw him off. 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.080 Nobody's buying nesting anymore? 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.040 Oh that old gag? Yeah? 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.120 Yeah? 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.440 Is it? No? No, we're not doing it. We're not 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:06.280 doing it all right. Injuries, Robinson went down early. 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.680 Yeah, he went out. Gibson was out. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.000 Gibson came back, but he was out quick. I don't 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.600 think Robinson came back though. 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.359 I think it looks like an ankle so so soon. 0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.720 Yeah, daniel Lequale, I wouldn't be surprised if we're hearing head. 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.279 Yeah, did he ever come back? 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:24.480 I didn't see him. 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.800 He took a good There was that eleven minute drive. 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.040 He was involved in one of those run stuffs at 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.600 the end inside the ten and. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:37.320 He took a good hit. Pop Douglas. Watch is that's 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:37.719 not it? 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.480 I don't know what happened with Douglas. 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.040 Well, he wasn't that's not out of broadcast either. 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.799 He was sick, and then he wasn't sick because he 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.439 was in the game, and then he got sick again. 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.719 Yeah, So I don't know, Like i'd be curious to 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.799 see what his snaps are, the snap total. I don't 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:57.040 think that will be out yet. But yeah, I didn't 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.680 really notice that he was because the Patriots possessed the 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:04.200 balls so infrequently in that sort of stretch from the 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:08.120 second quarter through the ten minute mark or the fourth quarter, 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.040 they almost never had the ball, so I didn't realize 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.839 how infrequently Douglas was on the field, but I guess 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:16.400 he was dealing. 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.560 Steve Weisch said he was dealing with an injury. You 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.799 think about Jalen Polk we mentioned and how much time 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.759 they possessed the ball on their on their first two 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.839 possessions which went for scores and then crazy, the time 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.720 of possession ends up being thirty three fifteen versus twenty 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.880 six forty five for the Patriots, So that tells you 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.520 how much they possessed the ball after those scoring drugs. 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.200 Just figure that out. That was something you were like, 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:39.200 this is great there. 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.719 The time possession is crazy on the Patriots side, and 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:42.960 then it just completely swung. 0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.640 I'm looking at my watch him like I'm going to 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.200 be I'm going to be a home in time for 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:47.239 a late lunch. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:48.480 All right? 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.960 No, okayr it is souper weird? 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:52.680 Is supper on Sundays? 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:58.360 No, we don't do that. Supper dog has suppered for 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.680 some reason. We call it supper for the dog. Really, yeah, 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.200 breakfast and supper? Did she ever supper? All right? Because 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.479 it's early, it's five o'clocks, you know, what that little 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.920 SCAMPI start asking for her supper thirty. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:15.640 Yeah, it's too early. 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.640 Elder dog dog gone, No, she's not elderly. How dare 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:26.760 you what a card? Mike? You're an absolute caution. 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:32.480 Paul, You're a panic and I hate when I'm not involved. 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.120 But we just haven't gotten to buy you quote. That's 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.960 the only thing we haven't. We haven't checked that one yet. 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.400 But oh well, I got the booty ran by you 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.880 though I did it. I was gonna say, but I 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.920 was watching the game separately from YouTube. Uh Tamara and 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.120 I went in and watched it on an actual, big 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:51.040 size television. But I did hear the service of not 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.640 making the buy you joke. When you know what that 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.800 she did chat Hunter Henry passed on the scene. You 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.080 know what that allowed me to do, Mike, is to 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.880 end my streak, oh of playing the trend. 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.520 Oh there you go, good one. 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:05.640 Pa. 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.080 I appreciate you on that one, because I don't know 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.279 we you did? You did? I'll I owe you, I 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:11.960 owe you one. 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.920 Let's take some phone calls here eight five five pats 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.040 five hundred, get the emails rolling in here to podcasts 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.120 plural at Patriots dot com. We'll go to Kevin in 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.080 Nashville to get us started here on the Patriots postgame show, 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.080 which is presented by DraftKings. Go ahead, what do you 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:27.920 got for us? Kevin? 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:29.279 Hey? 0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:31.879 Can I just rip like two or three tanks real quick? 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:33.840 Yeah? 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.319 Already took the tea back. You're way better than that nofense, Matt, No, 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:44.560 that's not it is true anyway, Jalen Polk can't catch 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:49.200 a ball. That's very unfortunate. Also, Juwan Bentley being out 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.080 is apparently the biggest thing ever because they can't stop 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.000 the run, so that's an issue. And then also Drake 0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.440 May it seems like whatever he does well, the team 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.440 just is not ready for what he does. 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.480 Team is not I don't know. I don't know if 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:06.640 I understand that last point. 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:11.200 Kevin well, well, it seems like he's like even if 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.080 he plays well well. Also, the popped out was thing 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.560 spas me out today because I was like trying to 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.439 figure out what was going on. I was like, why 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.200 is he not on the field? All was chaking Twitter 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.040 and they're like, oh, he's sick. And then why do 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.480 you play the first five reps of the game and 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:27.560 then not come back? 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.640 Yeah, And you know, sometimes this kind of gets a 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.680 little inside football, and you know, we've had former players 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.000 tell us, you know, they can they can do things. 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.480 They can do things for you to get you ready 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.680 to play the game. And those things have a shelf 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.000 life in terms of how long they're gonna make you love. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:44.960 I would love to try those drugs. 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.640 Well, you know, I'm just saying, even if, even if 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.160 it's like a dehydration issue and that there was talk 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.480 of ivs going on for whatever he was dealing with, 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.560 after a while, it wears off, and if you know, 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.560 you come back out after halftime you're like, I can't go, 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.120 Then he can't go. I'm not put it on Pop Douglas, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.160 But I think I know what you're saying, Kevin about 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.200 Drake May. I don't think he's playing beyond you know, 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.880 what his his teammates and receivers are willing to do. 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.560 He's certainly not there as a rookie star. 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.520 Maybe he's not ready for that. He's not he's not 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:14.120 ready for it. 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.880 But and that's what I'm saying. I think he's playing solid. 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.000 But it's like if it pops not on the field, 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.920 who does he have to throw it to? Because Bolt's 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.279 gonna drop it. He's got kJ Osborne that will catch 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:25.120 a wide oven pass. 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.520 But I mean Hunter Henry that's it. 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.040 Yeah, they they obviously need more weapons. But can we 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.600 agree that he had opportunities to make some places that 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:34.680 he made bad throws on too? 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:34.880 Right? 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.839 Like I think he was really good based on this 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.839 was his second career start. Yeah, like not really good, 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:45.000 Like in terms of NFL quarterbacks, he was good for 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.240 where he is in his development, right right. 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.439 He misses a lot of throws, but he also makes 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.799 throws that just get dropped or sticked. And it's like, yeah, I. 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.360 Don't really see that all that often. To be honest 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.800 with you, I didn't see it. I mean Pope dropping it. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.440 Pulpe dropped two passes. Who else dropped one? 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.600 Yeah, it's a good question. 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.279 Because it didn't happen. This is my point. Like he 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.759 had Born coming across the middle wide open and overthrew him. 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:16.359 You know, like there's there's like I said, Drake may 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.600 is right where you want him to be as a 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.880 guy who's making a second career start. But let's not 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.239 like you know, one of and one have pulled all 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.480 on everybody else that they're not more more productive. 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:27.560 Part of it is on him. 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.080 I'm not trying to annoy him as no. 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:31.799 I know, I know you're not. I know you're not. 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:32.160 Kevin. 0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:33.160 I know it. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.640 Seems like he's getting a little bit let down, but 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.600 he's like he's also a fault too. But I mean, honestly, 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.319 the main thing was I was just blown that Douglas 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.120 just was gone after the first it was. 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.000 It was surprising. I'm not gonna lie to you, I 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.040 was shocked. I want to understand in the aftermath, Kevin, thanks. 0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.359 For the call. I just real quick. 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.520 I don't know if you already said this, but Andrew 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.040 Callahan talked to Pop in the locker room, said he's 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.319 been vomiting all day, could stand up a focus, said 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.799 it got worse throughout the day, so he's he's sick. 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.279 He was fighting through lamb like they said it on 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.200 the Oh, that's a great Mutton. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.160 I don't know what has got nothing on this? 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.560 Not something in your crumpet? 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.240 Do you want me the crumpet? I don't even know. 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:20.120 Stuck with the Mutton. 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:24.760 Mutton Mutton was working, probably more likely the Mutton play. 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.640 I overthought it. 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:32.200 That Super Cops story that was working one of the 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:36.160 polk drops was that across the middle where the ball 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.520 was out in front of him a little bit and 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:39.640 he had his arms extended. 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.000 Was that, Well, no, he had one. I think we're 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.880 going to see the first one right here. That's a 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.440 drop like and I know that the defensive back comes 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.640 over and he comes in and rapes in between. You 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.759 gotta you gotta catch that ball. The second one I 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.319 put on May. The second one he was open and 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:56.320 the ball was a little. 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:56.960 Bit late and short. 0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.759 Yeah, and allowed I think your guy to don dunk 0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.720 dounk to come over and break it up. 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.960 Right this one? Oh no, not that one. 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.800 That play was whistled for a penalty that was passing 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:10.359 appearance the. 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.680 Like instant like the instant throw the flag. 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.040 Well, that's that's what I say. 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.280 I think that's how I think that was the pass defance. 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:17.680 I don't don't quote me on that. 0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.200 Every once in a while the all twenty two does 0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:22.720 get me. So I think that was the past inference. 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.319 But and deuce. The players only do that to help 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.920 the officials. Sometimes they don't see the past. Thank you. No, 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:32.040 I didn't realize you should be throwing a flag, Just 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:33.880 so you know, I don't want you to be embarrassed. 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.600 There was some cheating going on there, and you need 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:36.680 to call it exactly. 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:41.359 Uh, let's go to Cameron in North Carolina. Hello, Camera, 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.440 thanks for being on the Patriots postgame show with Hardy 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:49.640 and Paul and Deuce. What do you got cam com 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:57.239 com All right, my. 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.000 Hm, David, this is the one I was talking about. 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.239 I thought that, yeah, this one. I think you see 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.400 how he's backpedaling, he's open, and I think this a 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:10.879 little bit. 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:12.759 I think there's a little bit of a. 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.120 Problem that I put that on both Polk and May. 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.560 I thought cover two shots timing. The timing was a 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.400 little off there. I thought he was open settling in 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.799 the in the hole and the ball wasn't there in time. 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:26.399 By the time it was, the guy had come over, 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.120 And I mean, yeah, like you could call that a drop. 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:31.520 I think that's tough. 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.280 That's to catch. 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:44.680 Dad what happens when he works, David. I apologize for 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.680 making you wait, oh sorry, go ahead, David. That will 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.120 be my fault. It's like, how you guys doing good? 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:54.480 So you want me to start with the positive or 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:55.000 the negative? 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.000 Take here a positive? Please? 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.160 All right? So the positive I've come away with these 0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:05.120 last two games is that May is not mac Jones, 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.480 and that is at the very least really good. He 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.360 does not need the situation around him to be He 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.680 doesn't need two top ten receivers to put up two 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.880 hundred and fifty yards. He can do it with the 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.400 guys we have, and that's good to see, you know. 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:21.080 I'm glad he, you know, limited some of the turnovers today, 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:22.920 although he had a couple that probably should have been 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:26.239 picked off. But you know, I think he's doing I think, 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:27.840 like Paul said, he's right where you want him to be. 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:28.640 Yep. 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.120 So for the negative side, is it fair to say 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.360 this might be like the worst defensive showing since the 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:40.440 wild card game? Because what did they have one stop 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:41.560 in the last three quarters? 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:42.040 Yeah? 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.440 I think this has been consistent of the way the 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:45.640 defense has played this season. 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:46.560 I'll be honest with you. 0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:51.000 I get they did force two punts and seventeen. 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.360 They didn't get any the fact. 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.480 That we've we've lost by more sixteen or more points 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.600 in four of our last five games. And I have 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.680 to also mention, like I understand the circumstances and everything 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.959 of what happened. It's you know, but of the four 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.600 guys that were supposed to be running the defense, I 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.560 honestly think we kept two of the worst ones, Steve 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.000 and Bill, where I think the ones who sort of 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.719 brought the whole game plan together. And I feel like 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:23.799 Mayo and Covington were the ones who communicated it to 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.480 the players. But I feel like they're not. They just 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.040 don't have a game plan for the defense. 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:29.080 Yeah. 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:33.720 I'm just saying to myself or anyone else who cared 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:37.280 to hear me, I can't remember seeing a Patriots defense 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.600 look like this for seven games. 0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.360 That's that's what I'm saying. I think this isn't and 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.520 I agree with I agree with David. I mean, I 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:49.359 think this has been indicative though, like the scores, like 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.440 for as many points as they have allowed, they've been 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.080 kind of fortunate to only allow what they've allowed. You know, 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.839 like Christian kirk Bailey being out of bounds on that play, 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.800 and I would like to see a replay again to 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.600 see if that first foot when he caught it was down. 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.280 I think the foot that came down out of bounds 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.359 might have been the third foot. Obviously, they go for 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.240 eleven minute drive and come away with no points because 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.320 they they failed to block on the fullth down play 0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.319 like the Seattle game, all those drop passes that the 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.879 Seahawks had in that game, Like there's a lot of 0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.640 there's a lot of stops quote unquote that the Patriots 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.200 have gotten that they didn't have a whole lot to 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.920 do with and their struggle, this struggle. I think David's right. 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.640 I think this this is like wild Card, Like you 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.200 know that that twenty twenty one Wildcard game. 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.879 Like can I can. 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:38.520 I point out something that you had on your your 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:39.319 good list real quick? 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.000 Okay? Sure, uh you had. 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:43.839 I think you had a VP on your good list 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:44.239 for a bit. 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:46.800 I feel like, well just for the start they got out. 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:50.840 For the start yet start, but like what what? I 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:52.840 feel like we were running a lot of plays that 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:57.720 are not what's the word like related to Drake Me's 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.480 skill set? Like why are we running so many line 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.080 it like screen passes behind the line of scrimmage? Why 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.040 are we running so much when we can't we don't 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:05.759 have a run game. 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.520 I don't think you ran the ball as often as 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:10.919 you think you did today. 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.200 It felt like it's still I think I think they. 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.839 Attempted twelve runs and I would say that the first 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.800 touchdowns of screen like it's a that's that's a blitz 0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.920 beating screen to Jamichael Hasty, like when they don't work, 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.160 you're like, why are you calling that? When it does work, 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:32.520 you know and listen. I would say that Alex van Pelt, 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.239 I gave him some credit for coming up with a 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:37.319 good game plan, a good script. Well that's only part 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:38.919 of it, Like, you got to figure out what's going 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.760 on the rest of the game. Once the game declares, 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.120 you have to figure out how am I going to 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.640 adjust and move the ball? And they had no answers, 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.759 So I by no means am I saying Alex van 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.560 Pelt painted a Picasso today. They got off to a 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.480 good start and then they went They went south for 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.319 a while, and that's that's unacceptable. You've got to be 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:55.759 better than that. 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:57.319 Thanks, David, appreciate it. 0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.400 UH just a little nuanced, I think, Paul, to feedback 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.480 on something that you've been saying a lot about the defense, 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:04.719 was that you thought, because hear a lot of people 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:06.319 going like, how do you go from a top ten 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:07.319 defense to the worst? 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.240 I think that they didn't quite start at that position. 0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:12.440 Is as you've pointed out, many times they you know, 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:14.000 I think the last couple of years, there probably were 0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:14.319 plenty of. 0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.279 Exams yet to play a backup quarterback of Bill Belichick. 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:18.640 They played one Bill. 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.400 Bellichick out scheming a backup quarterback. 0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:22.000 And I think that that's a big piece of some 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.120 of their defensive success over the last couple of years 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:27.279 was getting favorable matchups against backup quarterbacks, like you said, 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.279 on more than a few occasions. And you know, give 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:31.719 Bill credits. Certainly he knows the right game plan to 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.080 go against those guys. But I just I don't know 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.160 if if the drop off has been quite as dramatic 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.280 as some people will make it out to be because 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.479 of what their rankings were. But I think that they're, 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.960 you know, they're a defense right now that that's really struggling. 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.240 And I mean in a variety of areas. 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.600 From hyperbole to nuance and this du this deuce kid 0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:52.640 range my autobiography. 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.400 Well, I was just trying to I don't know the nuance. 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.200 Paul is the one who points out the nuance all 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.200 the time, which is just you know that they're that 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.640 you know, you'll just look at the numbers and you say, wow, 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:02.319 this was a great defense last year. 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:03.560 Was it? I don't know. 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:07.000 Would that be the title of your autobiography from Hyperbole 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:11.319 to Nuance? Well, it talks about your development as a human. 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:12.960 I already got the title, I just I don't want 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:13.640 to share it yet. 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:19.840 Though, Diary of Indignities. Oh, I like it? Uh Isaac 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.279 in South Dakota here on the Patriots post game show 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.600 high Isaac II. 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:25.319 Guys, so. 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.600 Talking about like wide receiver ones, like wide receivers, what 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:33.239 if we did like a trade for like Cooper Cups? Maybe, Yeah, 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.000 like a late route like some draft picks for Cooper Cups, 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.920 like not like early on, but somewhat cheap because I 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:40.279 feel like he's going to be a cheap since he's 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.480 gotten injured in the past two years, he hasn't played 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:43.040 very much. 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.359 And then why do the Rams want to make that trade? 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:48.200 Yeah? 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.880 What do you guys? Would you guys consider making that 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:51.319 trade for? 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:51.640 Oh? 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:53.960 I would absolutely I would. I were the Patriots, I would. 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.680 If I were the Rams, I wouldn't. Why would you 0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:58.080 want Why would the Rams want to trade Cooper Cup? 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.239 Because? I mean, because he's been injured the past two 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:03.480 Like it's just because he's been so injured the past 0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:04.040 two years. 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:05.600 He hasn't really played that much. 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:10.200 I think Pukah's coming back, I believe. And then there 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.959 I don't know why that. Why wouldn't they take draft 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.520 picks for Cooper Cup. 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.200 Because he's good and he's good. And I'll tell you 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.399 something else, Isaac, I'm not giving up a third round 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:20.960 or for anybody right now because I think you can 0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:22.560 go find receivers in the third round. 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:24.880 Well, I just would look at it and say, the Rams, 0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.760 you know, they have a veteran quarterback. They're not looking 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.880 to get rid of guys, you know, especially guys that 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:31.680 are under contract. 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.600 Yeah, guys that are under contract and injured or not 0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.160 have shown to be Yeah, he's a good player, and 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.880 it's like, oh, there's a guy that can catch the 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:41.640 ball from our veteran quarterback. We're going to keep him. 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:45.200 All right, let's step side here for a moment. We'll 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.200 continue with your phone calls here to a five to 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:51.480 five Pats five hundred and your emails podcasts plural at 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.799 Patriots dot com. 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We're here doing the 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.200 Patriots postgame show for you, which is presented by Draft Kings. 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.520 And we're going back to the phones, uh and we'll 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:09.080 talk to John who is in South Beach. Are you 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:11.840 in South Beach? Are you on South Beach? John? I 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.760 remember asking you this question before, but I just want 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:15.760 you to answer it again. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:20.280 It's an important question. I am in South Beach, not 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.640 currently laying on the beach. I'm fortune okay. 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:27.320 And you've called into this program before, yes, I have. 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.280 And Paul even give to me the nickname Johnny South Beach, 1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:32.240 which I have embraced wholeheartedly. 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:34.680 That's a cool nickname. That is accurate. Man is good 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:37.000 already Southpeach, John? What do you? What do you got 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:37.520 for us? 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.960 A couple quick things. First of all, hearing your Dulcie 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:47.160 tones today, Hardy makes the lost hurt five percent less 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:50.840 o no no shade, no shade to Matt. But Hardy, 1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:54.960 Hardy is the one that got away. I was just 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.920 I kind of want to swear something before you know, 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.840 everybody starts like discussing on Twitter, fighting about it on 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:06.919 the radio on that near pit Row to Osbourne. Immediately though, 1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:10.520 is like screaming that Osborne didn't run a good route, 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.360 and then everyone on Twitter is like made and throw 1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:16.040 the ball quick enough to pass break up. Blah blah blah. 1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:20.120 What from your guys' perspective, actually happened on that play 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:21.800 and who's the most to blame. 1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:23.320 I'd like to see, can we put it up? 1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:24.880 I'll break it down for you live. Maybe we could 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:25.280 get the chick. 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:27.440 I really look forward to this. 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:31.480 Can you get a telestraight her off from my No, 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:35.080 we're gonna We're gonna look at it here hopefully, and uh, well, 1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:37.280 we'll come to a consensus here among the three of 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:39.680 us as to whether or not it was a bad pass, 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:45.840 a bad route, or just bad luck. I my gut 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:51.320 tells me that the route maybe was a little bit off. 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:53.600 I'm trying to remember in my mind's eye, but I'm 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.200 hesitant to to say one way or the other. Without 1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:57.720 looking at it again, I can tell you it was. 1:01:57.840 --> 1:02:01.960 Zoe was streaming saying that Osborne is supposed to cut 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:05.240 more towards the quarterback on that route, and I was like, 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:08.000 I love though, but he's a little QB oh. 1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:13.560 Wide receiver right that route, right, especially this QB Yeah, 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:15.760 I don't think you would have been as forgiving if 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:16.080 it were. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:19.000 We're set making the same throw. Now. The good news is, 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:21.200 I'm sure uh Drake May who will hear from here 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:25.120 in a little while, did not put the uh the 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:28.080 onus on his receivers a la Aaron Rodgers last week 1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.480 talking about here the red line line. You got a 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:33.120 red line and it has nothing to do with uh. 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.800 I think it was Andrew Kantllahan who said, maybe take 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:38.640 some accountability for throwing a no look past forty yards 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:41.840 down the field, and uh, you know that maybe takes 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:45.800 some of it on yourself. But you know, I think 1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:48.040 these are all part of the It's part of the 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:51.440 learning curve for these guys getting together and and getting 1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.360 first team reps for only what the third week now 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:57.400 second third week, you know, getting the majority of them 1:02:57.520 --> 1:02:59.680 and figuring things out. It's his second start, and I 1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:01.680 don't get Maybe something else that Zoe has said, which 1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:04.360 I happen to agree with, and if you go back 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:07.480 and look at starts from quarterbacks, there's something to it. 1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:10.840 You need three starts before you can really make any 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:14.919 kind of real determination. Let that quarterback have the game 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:17.720 plan for a week. Let them get the install let 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:21.040 them develop some rapport if there is any with the receivers, 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:24.520 and then you start making decisions on what he's good at, 1:03:24.560 --> 1:03:27.280 what he's bad at. You can't do it after a game, 1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:29.600 and if you do it after two games, you're doing 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:33.360 everybody a disservice, you know, after three games and then 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:35.400 and then maybe we'll be able to make a better 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:39.120 determination on specific things like that. John, it's a good question, though. 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:39.880 We'll take a look at it. 1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:41.000 Yeah, yeah, we'll break the film. 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:43.800 We'll let you know. I'll let you know anything else. 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:49.000 John, Well, since since you're on Hardy, I've been waiting 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:52.480 to share my favorite Hooper quote or when Austin Hooper 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.280 has a good game, But I just don't think that's 1:03:54.280 --> 1:03:55.800 going to happen, so I'm just going to share it anyway. 1:03:55.840 --> 1:03:58.480 It's when Hooper standing in front of the boat and 1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:00.640 he says, don't give me any of that working class 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:05.240 bureau crap. I think, yeah, basically, yeah, that's the most line. 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:07.600 Yeah, and they're they're not in front of the boat. 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:11.360 I believe they are in the shop. They're in Quinn's shops. 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:14.760 Yeah, it was boiling with the Hooper U S O. B. 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:15.360 Line. 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:17.600 Yeah, yeah, I like that. 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:20.160 I like the subtle underspreath. I don't think so you know. 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:24.400 Yeah, yeah, you think you know it all salty dog fishermen. 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:26.600 But I have a degree. Yeah, and I'm going on 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:27.240 the aurora. 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.560 It's a floating asylum, is what it is. John, Thanks for. 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:36.680 The call, which still doesn't really what not like it 1:04:36.720 --> 1:04:40.800 doesn't make any sense, like it it's a floating asylum. 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:43.760 What missus Brodie thinks it's hysterical. 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:46.080 She is in the book They got after it together. 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:48.280 That's it, That's it right. 1:04:48.360 --> 1:04:50.600 I didn't I didn't know that until you told me 1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:53.800 about it. And now watching her react to him, I 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:56.200 wonder if there's something in the back. There was something there, 1:04:56.360 --> 1:04:57.320 there's something there. 1:04:57.680 --> 1:05:00.240 I mean, miss Brodie, she you love you love. She 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:02.600 was already feeling it earlier. She was like, Chief, you 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:04.520 want to fool around and was like sure. He didn't 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:05.960 really seem that much into it. So you could see 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:08.280 where they're parent seeds of you know, Miss Brodie, she's 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:09.400 she's looking around for a little action. 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:11.320 I think, yeah. 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:16.760 And then two, there's a clear inference. There's a clear 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:21.880 inference to me that the hotel guy, you know, the 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:25.360 business you know, the hotel business guy, and you know, 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:28.320 and and Ellen is like the pr person. 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:30.440 You know, there's something there. 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:32.640 Right right, And then in four she's I don't know 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:34.840 what we do without you know, it's like Brodie's body 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:37.439 isn't even dry. She's jumping to Michael Kine playing around 1:05:37.480 --> 1:05:40.080 the which I mean, credit. 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:43.280 To Michael Kine for still being willing to make time 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:46.480 with her with that haircut, because that haircut climb against 1:05:46.560 --> 1:05:47.840 humanity that was bad. 1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:51.280 And credits to Michael Kine for still accepting checks for 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:52.040 these roles. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:55.160 I mean, she stabbed the shark with the boat. 1:05:56.960 --> 1:05:58.880 All right, all right, you guys say. 1:05:58.720 --> 1:06:02.040 So Matt, and I'm with us, now go ahead, Matt, 1:06:02.040 --> 1:06:03.880 thanks for calling Patriots post game show. 1:06:05.240 --> 1:06:07.800 Hey yeah, thanks for having me. So just a couple 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:14.200 of questions. First, so, how when was the last time 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:18.200 you thought that the defense really looked like this consistently bad? 1:06:18.360 --> 1:06:20.160 I mean, and then the. 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:25.440 Next question is, Drowd Mayo attreats this a lot to coaching, 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:29.240 and when do you think that at what point can 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:33.160 we actually like say it's not working, we need to 1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:35.960 shake something up with coaching, because I mean, if it's 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:39.800 this consistently bad and we're having all these mistakes week 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:42.720 after week after week. I mean, it can I mean, 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:46.400 when when can we expect to get better? I'll take 1:06:46.400 --> 1:06:48.280 it off here, all right. 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:51.440 I mean I'm looking back at twenty twenty. 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:53.240 I mean, and that's and then we always talk about 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:55.280 twenty twenty is kind of a year where. 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:56.560 Like hitting the reset button on the defense. 1:06:56.600 --> 1:06:58.800 I don't think anyone was really expecting that. 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:01.200 Now, you're right, it was a bad defense. 1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:03.480 They were a bad defense. Just looking at some of 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:05.280 some of their scores, just a bad u. 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:12.320 Yeah, so when can it get better? I really think 1:07:12.320 --> 1:07:16.680 it could be better next year, Like how much better? 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:18.800 I don't know. I think you can sort of make 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:22.320 the jump from obviously where you are right now, which 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.680 is not very good. I think you can make the 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:28.360 jump from that to competitive in one year. And I 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:31.600 think I think that it's going to require a good 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:37.880 draft and some shrewd free agency moves. You can't just 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:40.680 do one, you know, I know, this whole notion of 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.919 like we're a draft and developed team, Like yeah, that's great, 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:45.760 and I like that philosophy. I think they need to 1:07:45.760 --> 1:07:48.480 do better with their young players than they have, you know, 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:51.720 in terms of developing but you can't just do that. 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:54.520 You need to spend some of that money and get 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:58.400 some talent in as well, some some proven talent. And 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:00.960 I don't think that they've taken an enough advantage of 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:04.960 those opportunities. But I think that they can. Listen, you 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.400 draft a left tackle, you know, in the first round. 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:11.040 Maybe you pick up a veteran receiver and draft a 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:15.640 receiver that hit, and all of a sudden, you can be, 1:08:16.080 --> 1:08:20.040 you know, a competitive team next year. I don't think 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:23.920 you're going to be necessarily a playoff team overnight, but 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:25.439 it can happen quickly. 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:28.360 It can happen quickly. I don't think it has to 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:31.760 be just you know, over because they're rebuilding. 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:34.799 Yeah, they were the worst run defense according to TVA 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:37.960 in twenty twenty thirty, second twenty sixth overall, but you 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:40.760 still look at points seventh and points fifteenth in yards. 1:08:40.800 --> 1:08:41.360 I mean they were. 1:08:41.280 --> 1:08:43.720 Still they still had a little something. So I think 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.840 that there's probably somewhat an argument to be made this 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:48.840 this defense is the worst one in a long time. 1:08:48.960 --> 1:08:51.679 Do Shawn and Virginia on the Patriots post game show? 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:53.599 Height does Sean what's going on? 1:08:53.840 --> 1:08:58.760 Hey, how you guys doing good? Good, good, big. What 1:08:58.840 --> 1:09:00.519 I wanted to say is that I think John Gotsen, 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:02.760 that's gonna be the same weekend and week out because 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:07.120 there's a talent efficiency problem, mainly in the trenches. They 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.639 can't rush the passer, uh, nor can they stop the running. 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:12.680 On the other side, you can't protect the quarterback. So 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:15.040 as long as that keeps happening, it's gonna be more 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:18.200 of the same. You know. Like people talk about Gonzales 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:20.000 and I look at the way of how they play them, 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:21.840 I don't I'm not really a huge fan of it. 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:24.240 The outside technique, not putting the hands on the guy 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:26.360 or whatever. I mean, I think you should really utilize 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:28.000 the skill set. I think they really don't you do 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:30.679 that or whatever. So there's certain things as the coach 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:33.160 maker is the problem, and there's a talent officiency problem. 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:35.679 So those get addressed, won't They probably will never be fixed. 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:38.840 Well, I mean, the the talent up the middle right 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:42.160 now defensively, and Paul talked about it in the pregame show. 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:45.720 That's not going to be fixed overnight. Uh. When you're 1:09:45.720 --> 1:09:48.600 talking about Gonzales and how they're playing things, you know, 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:52.839 schematically in the secondary, maybe that's something that can be addressed. 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:56.960 But again, personnel issues, Uh, if you're talking about more 1:09:57.000 --> 1:10:01.920 than two positions, U uh, this is this something that's 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:03.320 going to be a process. 1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:06.800 Now, I agree, And it's yeah, it's you can't just 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:09.040 like snap your fingers and be done. And I know 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:11.519 people look at this and I do too. I'm guilty 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:15.080 of it like, well, it's post Brady, so it's year 1:10:15.160 --> 1:10:17.599 five like and it is. 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:18.280 That's right. 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:20.479 I'm not telling you you're wrong for thinking about it 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:22.559 that way, but it's it's a little unfair to Girod 1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:24.280 Mayo and Elliott Wolf to look at it that way 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:28.760 because they're just getting the opportunity right now to do 1:10:28.880 --> 1:10:31.720 this on their own. And we'll see if they if 1:10:31.760 --> 1:10:36.160 they end up doing it doing it right now, it's 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:40.200 not off to a great start. I think that there's 1:10:40.240 --> 1:10:43.880 been so I think there were opportunities lost last year 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:49.280 and resigning all of their players like they did. I'm 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:51.839 not going to kill that, but like they didn't augment 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:54.559 it with really anything. What did like what did they 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:56.640 bring in like Antonio. 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:59.040 Gibson, Yeah, Antonio, I mean like how much? 1:10:59.080 --> 1:11:00.800 I mean maybe Jalen Hawkins a little bit. 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.280 I mean, I can run it right down for you. 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:03.240 I mean most of them just. 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:05.920 I'm talking about contributors, and no I know in the 1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:09.320 draft has not like really yielded anything. 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:11.400 Beyond Austin Hooper. 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:13.000 Hooper drives the boats. 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:17.519 Yeah, but I mean between Leverett didn't work out, armand 1:11:17.560 --> 1:11:20.639 Watts didn't work out, a corps for it didn't work out. Uh, 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:24.000 Taki Taki was a healthy scratch today he got you know, 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:25.200 a two year deal. 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:26.040 Uh. 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:27.880 And a lot of these guys that you extended, I 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:29.760 mean Born you're just starting to see him. But when 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.960 you hasn't had a great year. kJ Osborne has kind 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:35.880 of been an afterthought. Uh, Stevenson's been in out of 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:38.400 their lineup and had some fumble issues. David Andrews is out, 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:42.599 Gibril Peppers is out. I mean, gotcha looks pretty good. 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:44.240 I mean that that you know, that's one piece that 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:45.439 like a piece of it. 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:45.960 Now. 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.360 I'm just I'm just talking overall guys that you made 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:50.880 an effort to give new contracts to over the last 1:11:50.920 --> 1:11:52.000 you know, six months. 1:11:52.400 --> 1:11:54.160 Not not a lot of them have have worked out. 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:55.880 And a lot of them that you you know. 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.800 I was just talking about like free agent additions, like 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.680 they they made a decision to retain a lot of 1:12:01.720 --> 1:12:04.360 their own players, and that's fine, and I don't necessarily 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:06.439 I mean, some of them, I've just talked about this 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:09.280 all all off season. Some of them I wouldn't have 1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:11.920 brought back. But you know, individually, I'm not going to 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:14.120 stand on a mountain and scream like, how did you 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:17.680 resign that guy? But they didn't bring anything in to 1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:21.799 augment that, right, No, and you went forward to thirteen. 1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:25.000 I argued with you at Evan a lot like they're 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:27.400 basically running it back with the same team, only they're 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:29.080 changing the quarterback and they think it's going to be 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:31.439 a magic fix. I didn't think it would be a 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:32.280 magic fix. 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:34.120 Right, And I don't know how much credit you're you're 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:36.920 going to get from people, from critics and fans of 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:42.160 life for resigning guys that have proven themselves even a 1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:44.120 little bit. Well, yeah, that's what you should do. The 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:47.960 guys who can play you keep here unless there's someone 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:50.040 out there, and in many cases there are someone else 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:53.960 who could truly augment that position, then you bring them in. 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:54.280 Right. 1:12:54.520 --> 1:13:00.320 So how about Eldred in North Carolina talk about sight 1:13:00.439 --> 1:13:02.920 for sore eyes or sore ears? Aldrid good to talk 1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:04.840 to you there. It is my man. 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:08.840 He tell us, hey, hey, Hardy, how you doing. 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:09.680 Good to hear from you. 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:14.760 Yeah, Paul, Uh excuse me, Matt, Hey, uh, I want 1:13:14.760 --> 1:13:18.400 to piggyback off the other guy. But uh, Paul, you're 1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:22.439 right too. You can't kill Rod and Elliott. I can 1:13:22.520 --> 1:13:24.920 kill Ellie for part just draft, but the other five 1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:27.439 I put it on the building in this GM. And yeah, 1:13:27.560 --> 1:13:30.840 you know, but Gunso was a good corner, but guns 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:31.920 can't cover speed. 1:13:32.520 --> 1:13:33.720 And Brian Thomas was. 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:36.720 The third wire receive. I wanted Pope was nowhere near. 1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:41.679 I wanted Harrison or a d Mitchell or Brian Thomas, 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:45.120 but we got Pope, you know, And which go against. 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:47.640 What Brian Thomas off the board in the middle of 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:48.280 the first round. 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:51.280 Yeah, yeah, he didn't go to the middle, did he. 1:13:51.600 --> 1:13:54.400 I think he was a first round pick, right, Yeah? 1:13:54.600 --> 1:13:55.200 I thought he was. 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:58.000 Okay, maybe yeah, mitchelluld have stuck around. 1:13:57.720 --> 1:14:00.800 Pa Mitchell if there was something happen with Mitchell. I 1:14:00.840 --> 1:14:03.800 don't know what the story is. But he dropped in 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:07.280 the draft like he he went like a full round 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:10.600 or so round and a half later than he was projected. 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:13.040 Picked twenty three for Thomas. Thomas was twenty three, Yeah 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:14.240 he was, he was longer three. 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:18.160 Okay, well don't go Well my thing is this. Everybody 1:14:18.400 --> 1:14:21.799 pumped the break. This is a rebuild just to really 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:24.280 the rebu start supposed to start with Bill, but he 1:14:24.320 --> 1:14:27.080 didn't do it right. So this is it. So we 1:14:27.320 --> 1:14:29.280 just out of talent, just like I've been saying it 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:31.400 for years. If I would just to shoot me down 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.400 and say we need some day sometimes you gotta get 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:35.600 to afleet not the blue. 1:14:35.280 --> 1:14:39.200 I couldn't agree more. Alters. Yeah, years and Aldred you've 1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:41.479 got you've got the right attitude about him. A lot 1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:43.960 of people that are not willing to accept the fact that, 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:50.479 you know, the rebuild wasn't done correctly, going back several 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:52.960 years now and it's kind of like, okay, now it 1:14:53.000 --> 1:14:55.360 begins like, well what have we been doing? Uh, you 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:57.479 were supposed to be doing it, but you really said. 1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.800 I don't think people that say that it's five years 1:14:59.880 --> 1:15:03.720 or wrong because it has been. Yes, and a lot 1:15:03.720 --> 1:15:06.840 of these guys were here too, like Elliott Wolf and 1:15:06.880 --> 1:15:09.440 mac growe were true were part. I mean I understand 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:13.120 Bill had final say Bill, this the roster, the makeup 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:15.680 of the roster is on Bill. I understand that, but 1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:18.120 these got the guys were part of the personnel department. 1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:19.880 Right and they had input on some of these draft 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:20.600 picks that missed you. 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:23.320 Yes, sir. 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:28.559 To me, he's still drafting like Bill. To me, he's 1:15:28.560 --> 1:15:30.880 still drafting like Bill. That's why I say that doing 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:31.400 that draft. 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:33.800 Yeah, well, I don't know if Bill would have drafted May, but. 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:37.160 No, he would. Yeah he had you could need a quarterback. 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:41.200 If he did, he was crazy and running with day 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:44.040 and death. That insanity. 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:46.639 Yeah, I mean I think he Yeah, I mean, that's 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:48.519 a good point. I know what Mike is saying, because 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:52.000 Bill wasn't overly complimentary of May in the draft, but 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:55.960 that was also maybe an ulterior motive involved there. I'm 1:15:56.000 --> 1:15:58.439 just saying knowing that he was going to the page. 1:15:58.439 --> 1:15:59.800 Now, that doesn't sound like it. 1:16:00.920 --> 1:16:03.439 Uh, Eldrick. Great to hear from you, my man. Thank you, 1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:05.000 appreciate it. Appreciate it. 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.000 I love that dude for the Dolphins just recovered to 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:08.000 fumble without a helmet. 1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:11.439 That's good. Cela Zach Seeler, big play. I think David 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:15.240 Montgomery got u strip sacked in the in the Lions game, 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:17.320 which is something you don't see all that all running 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:20.439 gets through the line and and I don't know if 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:22.280 I don't know if it was one of the linebackers 1:16:22.280 --> 1:16:25.000 from Minnesota like took the ball away from him and 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:28.400 came down with it on the ground before Montgomery even 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:31.920 knew what happened. Like huh, all right, so I know, 1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:34.000 just real quick, like to Elder's point, like, I just 1:16:34.040 --> 1:16:36.040 I'd like to feel good about something other than Drake May. 1:16:36.080 --> 1:16:37.519 I feel pretty good about Drake May right now. 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:38.120 I do too. 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:38.840 I don't feel good. 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:41.519 About anything else right now that I don't like. As 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.200 much as you want to tell me about Gonzalez and 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:45.840 Key and White and you know, Pop Douglas and and 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:48.360 all that. I you know it, it's not consistent, and 1:16:48.400 --> 1:16:50.360 it certainly isn't getting better right now. And at some 1:16:50.439 --> 1:16:53.200 point they've got to turn the tide and put some 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.440 places together. And it's just right now. 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:57.559 What you got Halloween coming up? About that? 1:16:59.080 --> 1:16:59.720 Not like I used to. 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:01.559 It's not fun with it when I was a kid 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:03.599 or when my kids were little. Now it's just about 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:05.439 where are my kids going they're gonna run around. 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:07.880 The sweet spot was when the kids were like middle school, 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:11.120 a little older than that it became like a neighborhood thing. Yeah, 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:15.400 you know, you get the rid solo cups going, oh yeah, 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:16.760 you know, but. 1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:19.280 Now you find that Halloween Central Street. 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:21.320 And you know what really like, I don't know, like 1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:23.880 the neighborhoods you guys live. I don't know one comes 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:25.960 to my like on my street because I live on 1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:28.559 a small street. There's only a handful of houses. Oh 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:31.639 not only that your boy got hurt, David Montgomery's great, 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:35.160 there's uh, there's not there's not a lot. There's only 1:17:35.200 --> 1:17:37.040 like eight houses on my street. There's like four on 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:38.760 each side of the street. So no one really comes 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:39.439 down my street. 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:40.240 Aristocrat. 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:42.160 Maybe if you get big, I didn't get it medium, right, 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:49.719 get them big candy bars. Perlo's got the king size. 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:50.400 Because a lot of times, you know, do you do 1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:51.800 the full size candy at your house? 1:17:52.240 --> 1:17:52.479 Uh? 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:56.800 No no, because that's why no, because we don't roll 1:17:56.800 --> 1:17:57.599 the pennies for you. 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:00.559 If we got popcorn balls, if we got the if 1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:03.320 you know, candy corn if we get. 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:06.240 I've got the full time. If we've got the full full. 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.040 Sized candy bars, and then no one shows up, who 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:08.680 do you think eats it? 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:09.960 Me? 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:10.479 Yeah? 1:18:10.520 --> 1:18:12.120 Like I don't want that. Let me tell you. Let 1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:14.200 me tell you boys two things, and then I swear 1:18:14.240 --> 1:18:18.840 we'll get back to the postgame. Number one, candy corn. 1:18:19.160 --> 1:18:21.439 If you're out, you're out. But if you like it 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:23.799 and you're just okay with it, here's what I say. 1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:28.960 You get a can of planters, salted shelled peanuts, okay, 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:31.559 dump those in a bowl, and then you dump about 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:33.720 half a bag of candy corn in there, and you 1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:36.840 just grab a handful. It is, and it's about a 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:40.320 three to one mixture. You need three to four half 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:43.639 nuts or nuts with one candy corn provide. Some people 1:18:43.920 --> 1:18:46.000 prefer more like a two to one. It's too much. 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:49.040 It's too much candy corn, too much, it's delicious. And 1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:52.559 number two, I'm gonna throw this one at you. I 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:57.519 was at a friend's last night and the woman brings 1:18:57.520 --> 1:18:59.880 out these Oh look at these ritz crackers. They're dipped 1:18:59.880 --> 1:19:03.160 in chocolate. Aren't these delicious? We all tried one, and 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:06.599 we said, you know, we need peanut butter to dip this. 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:09.040 I went across the street because I may peanut butter 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:12.120 in this house. So readiness brought my peanut butter back 1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:14.639 over it. And that is a delightful treat. I don't 1:19:14.640 --> 1:19:16.640 think you want to hand him out for Halloween, but 1:19:16.880 --> 1:19:22.400 just for yourself. Good Cracker, Yeah, delicious? You get that? 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:26.360 Do you get that reference? Ritz Cracker? Good Cracker, Eddie Murphy, 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.719 Andy Griffith. Oh wow. 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:32.400 So that's why that's why I went to you. Mike 1:19:32.479 --> 1:19:33.240 pretends he's. 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:34.760 Not as old as I am, so I'm not. I 1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:36.920 didn't even know to Mike. You know that Andy Griffith 1:19:36.920 --> 1:19:38.600 show is one of my top three TV shows of 1:19:38.640 --> 1:19:42.479 all It's a great show. And if you're going to 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:45.320 up to Pilot, could you get me a new pair 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:51.639 of scissors? Mark in Providence on the Patriots postgame Hello, Mark. 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:52.960 Mount Pilot. 1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:59.439 Looked at last year's season. To me, it didn't seem 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:02.240 like a re building a team that needs to be rebuilt. 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:06.599 I mean they lost seven games by less than seven points, 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.320 in another game by seven points, so eight games by 1:20:10.320 --> 1:20:11.120 a touchdown a lot. 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:13.400 Do you think when you go four and thirteen you're 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:16.599 not a team that needs to be rebuilt. When you 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:21.120 lose to Tommy DeVito and Trevor Simeon. 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:22.439 Like. 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:30.040 And any if you watched all the games, Mac Jones 1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:32.920 was a huge problem. So I mean you're going to 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:37.679 change the quarterback. You had to receive a left tackle 1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:41.400 and keep adding to the defense. Now, this team, that's 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:43.360 a lot needs to be completely rebuilt. 1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:46.040 But you needed all those things that you just said, 1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:49.479 that's a that's that's a that's a rebuilt, Like you 1:20:49.520 --> 1:20:53.200 need a left tackle, a receiver in adding to the defense, like. 1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:55.320 That's a lot of stuff. That's a lot of stuff, Mark. 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:58.240 And that's not even taken into consideration. Does the quarterback work? 1:20:58.439 --> 1:20:58.519 Like? 1:20:58.600 --> 1:20:59.679 Did he? Did it pan out? 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.160 Like we knew you took the quarterback at three, But 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:04.000 that doesn't mean it's gonna work. A lot of teams, 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.679 you know, find themselves in that quarterback carousel. 1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:11.200 Okay, but you've moved down from the three and you 1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:15.080 address your offensive line, and they got a ton of money, 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:18.360 they could have brought in a couple of skilled guys. 1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:20.800 Still the other holes and you still had all them 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:21.600 other drasticks. 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:26.719 I don't know what do you do a quarterback? Okay, 1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:29.080 all right, mar I'll just say this. 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:31.160 I just don't know how you watched last year and 1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:34.040 you deceived yourself into thinking they only lost ten to 1:21:34.120 --> 1:21:36.320 seven to Tommy DeVito, so they weren't that far away. 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.200 Well, this comes from years of sitting at the. 1:21:38.640 --> 1:21:42.000 Gardner Minshew's ten to six. We're right there, Like they 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:46.200 lost to one backup quarterback after another, right, and yeah, 1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:47.880 the games were closed because the other teams were all 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:49.560 playing their backup quarterbacks. 1:21:49.120 --> 1:21:51.680 And Deuce, maybe maybe you've fallen under the city, you know, 1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:54.519 the same spell that I did, now that you've been 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:58.000 with Paul for as many years as I was. One 1:21:58.000 --> 1:22:01.559 of the things that just you know, gets drilled into 1:22:01.600 --> 1:22:05.759 you and you absorbed by osmosis is a team's record 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.760 at the end of the year is the best indicator 1:22:08.800 --> 1:22:11.559 really of what they are. You can say theirself and 1:22:11.600 --> 1:22:14.080 Paul taught me this. You can talk to yourself and ah, 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.080 they're really better than their four and thirteen record would 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:20.519 indicate that. Almost every single time you look at the 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:22.080 record at the end of the season, it's like that's 1:22:22.120 --> 1:22:22.599 what they were. 1:22:22.680 --> 1:22:26.280 See I could say, like, well, you were you were 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:28.240 seven and ten or eight and nine, but you know 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:29.800 we were a little better than that. 1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:31.160 We got you buzzards lucked. 1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:32.720 You know, we missed a couple of field goals that 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:36.040 would have won games. When you're four and thirteen or 1:22:36.080 --> 1:22:38.120 thirteen and four. It's hard to say you're not that 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:41.080 good or you weren't that bad. Like that's a really 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:44.920 dramatic you know, one way or the other. Yeah, Like 1:22:45.000 --> 1:22:47.840 I agree with Hardy, like you're four and thirteen, okay, 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:49.439 so maybe you should have been you should have been. 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:52.360 Six and eleven. Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough to convince Yeah, 1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:55.720 it's it's tough to convince me that because of all 1:22:55.720 --> 1:23:00.519 those close games, you're really more like a nine and eighteen. No, no, no. 1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:04.360 A bunch of emails here there which Now. 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:05.760 I are you gonna read the emails this time? 1:23:06.040 --> 1:23:09.200 The electronic mail? You know what, I'm not even gonna 1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:11.840 say anything. I'm not gonna say anything. I was gonna 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:14.080 do it. He was gonna do it. No, I was 1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:18.200 gonna do it earlier and disrespect and now this was 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:23.599 all on me. I wasn't gonna say it. Matt, Yeah, yeah. 1:23:22.960 --> 1:23:25.960 Left us and usually forwards hard of the emails I 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:26.519 forgot to do. 1:23:26.600 --> 1:23:29.439 That is everything, all right? Yeah, he had something to do, okay, 1:23:30.479 --> 1:23:31.679 it was it was a nice event. 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:32.840 He had to go apple picking. 1:23:32.960 --> 1:23:34.960 No, it wasn't apple He had to go do a 1:23:35.000 --> 1:23:37.759 little fo somebody else was that? Somebody else was apple picking? 1:23:37.800 --> 1:23:39.519 I saw on the Instagram during the game. Did you 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:40.240 see that photo? 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:41.400 No? 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:42.320 No, Jim Murray. 1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:42.479 No. 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:46.880 Who is right now is in the process of courtship, 1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:48.920 and it has to go do things like apple picking. 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:52.120 Oh god, even though he doesn't even though he doesn't 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:54.200 have young children, he has to go apple picking? 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:54.880 Is it? 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:56.919 Bill b Wow? 1:23:58.000 --> 1:23:58.560 Wow? 1:23:59.160 --> 1:24:00.799 Look it up to be from yesterday. 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:02.559 There's no way she got him out there on a Sunday. 1:24:03.040 --> 1:24:06.360 Probably not, but oh boy, is it? Is it fun 1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:06.599 to look? 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:08.559 At least he can afford it, you know, that's the thing. 1:24:10.200 --> 1:24:10.960 Pick it ain't cheap. 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:13.080 Got five hundred apples for seven hundred dollars. 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.400 I can't really think of very many things I would 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:16.639 rather do less. 1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:19.040 Than my buddy. Kyle Brandt had a good rant on 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:21.439 it the other day. Abou Kyle brand it's my buddy, 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:24.080 But it is. It's just like obscenely priced and you 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:25.960 get way more apples than you're ever gonna need. 1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:28.519 And you know it's silly. 1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:30.120 Yeah, they're silly. 1:24:30.439 --> 1:24:32.920 But she like pies, making pies for your friends. Maybe 1:24:32.920 --> 1:24:34.160 then that's it ends up being a deal. 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:37.360 But here's here's ken. When we are dealing with a 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:39.640 lack of performance on both sides. The ball remind me 1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:43.000 of how much we are under the salary cap? How 1:24:43.040 --> 1:24:45.360 much are how much are we under the salary cap? 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:47.080 You guys know a lot of you are gonna have. 1:24:47.080 --> 1:24:49.120 They're gonna have a good amount of cap space next year. 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:49.360 Yeah. 1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:51.240 I don't know what they're under it right now. That's 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:55.080 probably a Miguel question. But they're gonna have a lot 1:24:55.080 --> 1:24:58.360 of room next year for sure. And I just I'm 1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.320 skeptical that they're going to use it on weapons. 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:04.360 Yeah, they got to use it on something, and they've 1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:06.439 kind of extended everybody that's going to be extended. I 1:25:06.479 --> 1:25:08.160 feel like at this point, there's not you know, most 1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:09.720 of this offense is going to come back. There's not 1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:12.240 really you know, a lot of pieces. Jonathan Jones, he 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.599 could maybe say, was is somebody that that you would 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.360 look at, But they did the heavy lifting last year. 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:23.040 That's tough to look at. I'm not gonna lie. Sorry, sorry, Mike. Yeah, 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:24.880 he went to a corn maze too, because you know 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:29.599 sometimes they have corn maze. I mean we've all been there, 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:33.240 but with our kids, right, I can't get out of here 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:37.480 and there. Steve, he's got the headphones. 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:41.599 Ernie, Ernie, I need am app of this maze right now. 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.960 Email from Jordan's He says, this team is an embarrassment 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:50.639 through and through. Worst team in the league by a mile. 1:25:51.280 --> 1:25:57.479 I think we could beat Foxboro all high. The coaches, fully, 1:25:57.800 --> 1:26:00.240 Drake may is out there doing his level best with 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:04.320 no support. Team isn't playing hard. They're undisciplined. They don't 1:26:04.320 --> 1:26:06.760 play me a little bit. Well, hold on, I'm not 1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:10.080 even done their selfish. They're constantly infighting when they talk 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:12.800 to the media. All the things are product of a 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:15.439 head coach and the culture he installs. Wow, now it's 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:17.840 on the mail at this point. How why I and 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:21.719 his whole staff the one to be done? Play calling? 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:27.800 Culture is bad? Scrap it, tear it down. Wow, this 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.040 is so this. 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:32.240 We've heard a lot of this, you know, Mike and 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.519 I get, you know, some periodic emails about it, and 1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:39.320 people just like out on the new regime, like they 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:42.400 they just feel like it's not working and they need to, 1:26:42.600 --> 1:26:44.280 you know, they need to make a change. I don't 1:26:44.280 --> 1:26:46.720 think there's much of a chance of that unless there's 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:51.559 something really significant off field that happens. But that's not 1:26:52.479 --> 1:26:53.840 a completely unique take. 1:26:54.439 --> 1:26:54.920 I've heard. 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:56.920 I've heard that from time to time, which kind of 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:57.600 surprises me. 1:26:58.240 --> 1:26:59.560 I mean, that's what happens when you lose six in 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:01.559 a row. It's first time in what thirty years that 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:02.120 that's happened. 1:27:02.160 --> 1:27:04.000 I think they said on it it was kind of 1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:05.760 half listening to at the end, I'm not gonna lie, 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.840 I was sort of in lala land. 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:11.719 First time since before before Craft's ownership. 1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:14.479 Yeah, Jews first, they lost a bunch of games in 1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:17.360 a row that year the bill, and they finished strong 1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:20.240 that year, they won the last four. So maybe if 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:22.200 they can get something like that, it could be uh, 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:25.240 you know, at least some some hope moving forward if 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:28.240 they finish the second half of the season. Like, I 1:27:28.280 --> 1:27:33.080 think part of the problem is this, there remains like 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:38.240 a level of expectation that I don't think is commensurate 1:27:38.360 --> 1:27:42.240 with what they have. Like I heard people saying, you know, 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:45.519 they could easily fit, they could easily be six and six, 1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:50.040 Like you're one in five and you think this team 1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:52.800 is capable of rattling off five out of the next six, Like, 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:55.840 I don't care who they're playing, but you'd think a 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:59.639 one in five team can reasonably expect to win five 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:03.720 of the next six. I don't care who are against, 1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:07.360 you know. And I heard that on the on the radio. 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:10.080 I heard, you know, finding a way to win six, seven, 1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:14.080 eight games for the season. Come on, like, I'm sorry, 1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:18.759 but like the more likely situation is another four and thirteen, 1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:21.560 you know, and the way it's going. 1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:23.040 Where those next three comes, I don't know what you know? 1:28:23.520 --> 1:28:27.040 Yeah, Like this was one that I thought you had 1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:30.200 a reasonable chance to win. This is another part of 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.080 the whole expectation thing. How many gofas. 1:28:32.640 --> 1:28:33.759 Did you hear this week? 1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.160 Jacksonvill was favored by five and a half. 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:39.280 I was one of them. 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:41.400 I was one of them, and I just looked at him, like, 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:44.960 if you're matching up, if you know, we're talking about 1:28:45.000 --> 1:28:49.799 Jalen Polk and kJ Osbourne and Kendrick Bourne and Tomrio Douglas, 1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:51.840 and everybody is like, they need a receiver, they need 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:55.200 a receiver. Which one of those guys is better than 1:28:55.400 --> 1:29:00.479 Brian Thomas, Christian Kirk or Gabe Davis. Which one of 1:29:00.520 --> 1:29:02.920 those four guys that the Patriots had as wide receivers 1:29:02.920 --> 1:29:05.599 today are better than the three guys that Jacksonville had. 1:29:05.680 --> 1:29:07.600 None of them. I would take all three of those guys. 1:29:07.320 --> 1:29:09.640 Over, you know, and I think Drake may can be 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:12.719 better than Trevor Lawrence, but it's not reasonable to expect 1:29:12.760 --> 1:29:17.240 him to be in his second career start. So I 1:29:17.240 --> 1:29:21.360 don't understand where this sort of righteous indignation came with 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:24.920 the fact that they were underdogs today. I picked the 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:27.800 Patriots to cover. I thought that they would put a better, 1:29:27.920 --> 1:29:29.360 better effort forward today than that. 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:30.200 So I was wrong. 1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:31.280 I mean, what do you want me to tell you? 1:29:31.280 --> 1:29:34.120 I missed it, just like everybody else. But I didn't 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:38.840 think they the whole, like the roster on paper for 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:40.799 Jacksonville is better than that of the Patriots. 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:44.519 Yeah, I was wrong. I thought the Patriots would cover today. 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:45.800 I missed it. 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.920 Not great stuff coming out of the Patriots locker room either, today. 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.640 Daniel Aqualley, with a quote via Andrew Callahan Jirog just 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:54.760 said postgame everybody got to check their ego when they 1:29:54.800 --> 1:29:56.880 come in, and I agree with him. I feel like 1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:58.800 a lot of guys think too highly of themselves and 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:00.360 have to check their ego and come in and just 1:30:00.400 --> 1:30:02.280 play as a team. I feel like if we play 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:04.479 as a team, nobody can stop us. But if we 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:06.000 go out there and do our own thing and play 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:09.040 outside of the scheme. That's when we get beat. A 1:30:09.080 --> 1:30:11.240 similar message kind of from what we heard from Devon 1:30:11.320 --> 1:30:12.559 Godshaw a couple of weeks ago. 1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:15.839 Also Alex Barts just pointing out. 1:30:15.640 --> 1:30:19.479 Thatch and ray Quon mcgillan played just eleven snaps each, 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:21.360 so there was a little bit of a pullback on 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:22.880 them from terms of defensive changes. 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:26.439 Well, you got your hipster tablet pulled up there? Could 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:30.200 you also go on to the Instagram because uh Sam 1:30:30.200 --> 1:30:33.439 from North Carolina says, uh polk has me wondering his 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:35.960 Insta post after the game was odd, wondering if he 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:37.719 dropped his phone while posting. 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:40.439 Now he just posted a simple peace sign. I don't 1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:43.320 know what that means, peace out piece, I'm okay, but 1:30:43.520 --> 1:30:44.160 just simple. 1:30:44.240 --> 1:30:47.320 Maybe I'm okay, just a piece emoji read from that 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:49.800 one too for two drops. 1:30:51.040 --> 1:30:54.280 And I completely I completely understand. 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:56.320 Maybe he's getting meat all sandwiches. 1:30:58.280 --> 1:31:01.959 You talk, give me two I completely understand. 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:04.040 You know that I'm one hundred years old and I 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:07.639 didn't grow up with all of these apps that you 1:31:07.680 --> 1:31:10.320 incessantly have to post every one of your last every 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:13.479 last thought on I just don't know what would possess 1:31:13.640 --> 1:31:17.120 a player going through what he's going through right now 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:18.639 to immediately say. 1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:20.559 You know what I think is a good idea. Let 1:31:20.560 --> 1:31:21.800 me get on Instagram? Right? 1:31:21.840 --> 1:31:25.760 Oh jeez, no again, I understand I'm out of touch. 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:29.559 It's not you know, I get it. Oh big run 1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:30.839 for your boy, Jamier Gibbs. 1:31:31.280 --> 1:31:33.880 He gone, he walks, right, he gone. There we go, well, 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:36.160 red zone hardy as the Lions are on the scoreboard 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:37.720 here at ten seven against Minnesota. 1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:43.080 Okay, I just I don't really know harmless and it's 1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:45.639 probably a nothing thing. It's probably like peace. I'm okay, 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.439 you know, peace London whatever, like. I don't think it's 1:31:48.479 --> 1:31:52.799 like any negative peace posts. Why are you posting anything? 1:31:53.520 --> 1:31:53.680 Right? 1:31:53.800 --> 1:31:57.040 You already deleted it, No, did he, which tells me 1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:58.520 it wasn't harmless. 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:00.599 You'll find your soulmate too, Pitho. 1:32:01.520 --> 1:32:02.000 It's just. 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:07.400 That was just to Kip dynamite. 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:08.360 That's all it was. 1:32:09.080 --> 1:32:15.320 All right. Let's let's hear from the I love doing. 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:17.880 The Uncle rito when I'm sitting here like this just 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:22.680 looking at his arms. Even I have arms I have, 1:32:23.479 --> 1:32:25.240 I would have give yourself biceps. 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:30.360 Let us hear from the head coach here, Gerrod Mayo, 1:32:31.400 --> 1:32:35.519 which is brought to you by Microsoft Surface, our partner 1:32:35.520 --> 1:32:38.600 here in the official sideline technology provider and laptop of 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.760 the NFL and the new England Patriots, provides players and 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:44.120 coaches with the tools to succeed both on and off 1:32:44.120 --> 1:32:46.760 the field. Check out the new Surface Pro designed to 1:32:46.880 --> 1:32:50.040 keep you and keep up with you as the most flexible, 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:53.360 most powerful two in one tablet and laptop out there 1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:56.040 at Surface dot com. 1:32:56.160 --> 1:32:59.439 Look a disappointing game. Disappointing game. We came out, we 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.200 started fast y. What I would say is, look, we're 1:33:01.200 --> 1:33:03.800 a soft football team. Across the board. We talk about 1:33:03.840 --> 1:33:05.840 what makes a tough football team. That's being able to 1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:07.760 run the ball, that's being able to stop the run, 1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:09.680 and that's being able to cover kicks. And we did 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:10.719 none of those today. 1:33:11.320 --> 1:33:11.479 Uh. 1:33:11.520 --> 1:33:13.600 They controlled the ball for most of the day. You know, 1:33:13.640 --> 1:33:15.639 their run game average over four and a half yards 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.200 to carry our run game. Not sure what the average was, 1:33:18.240 --> 1:33:22.479 but it wasn't good. Look back to the drawing board. 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:24.479 I mean, we can't sit here and pout. We just 1:33:24.760 --> 1:33:27.880 we just gotta put a game together. Do you explain 1:33:28.080 --> 1:33:30.960 the talent to run meet I'm not sure. 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:31.519 I'm not sure. 1:33:31.600 --> 1:33:33.439 That's something that you have to watch on you know, 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:35.599 watch on film. What I will say is it's a mentality. 1:33:35.640 --> 1:33:38.559 It's an attitude. And here as of late, our run 1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:40.760 game just hasn't been able to do anything offensively and 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:43.840 then defensively. I mean, the players like, we just gotta 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:47.479 play better, we gotta play better technique, gotta lock our 1:33:47.479 --> 1:33:49.280 guy out in front of us, and really just I mean, 1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:50.840 that's what it comes down to, locking the guy out 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:54.320 in front of you, dominating, dominating him and making a tackle. 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:56.320 What do you do with balls? Just to be. 1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:01.439 I'm not sure. I mean, that's something that you know, 1:34:01.479 --> 1:34:03.600 I have to I have to think about. You know, 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:05.920 we have a long flight back, and I'm not sure. 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:08.519 It's not like all of a sudden, you know, we 1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:10.760 did something different and now we're a soft football team. 1:34:10.800 --> 1:34:12.680 It's just the mentality that we got to get back in. 1:34:12.720 --> 1:34:14.799 The guys, do you think. 1:34:14.720 --> 1:34:16.519 You need to consider a change the. 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:18.720 Look? 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:21.280 Once again? Well, I'll go back over I'll go back 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:25.640 over the film and yeah, from where I was standing, like, 1:34:25.680 --> 1:34:27.599 even when you're in a right call, in the right call, 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:30.720 they're still not doing their job. So that's on me. 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:35.360 The decision to go for the two point conversion after the. 1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:39.479 Touchdown, yup, yup, So that that decision at some point 1:34:39.479 --> 1:34:41.200 in time, you have to go for two, and I 1:34:41.280 --> 1:34:43.439 just wanted to at least know what situation we were 1:34:43.479 --> 1:34:45.280 gonna be and with more time on the clock, so 1:34:45.320 --> 1:34:47.720 we went for two on the first one. You know, 1:34:47.800 --> 1:34:49.800 s I'm sure other people see the different ways, just 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:50.800 the philosophical thing. 1:34:51.160 --> 1:34:53.240 What uh what'd you see on the punk of your touch? 1:34:54.160 --> 1:34:56.080 I saw guys getting out leveraged. I saw a punt 1:34:56.120 --> 1:34:58.839 down the middle of the field, which is always difficult 1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:01.240 to cover. And look, he has a strong leg and 1:35:01.439 --> 1:35:03.680 he out kicked his coverage and we weren't disciplined in 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:05.720 our lanes. 1:35:07.439 --> 1:35:07.880 Is at the. 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:09.960 Start, I thought, Drag you know, did a good job, 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:12.400 especially starting the game off fast. He made some good throws, 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:15.320 he made some plays with his legs. Uh. But again 1:35:15.720 --> 1:35:17.519 I have to go back to the film and really 1:35:17.560 --> 1:35:19.120 just study that draw with the. 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:22.960 Straight loss or worried that the players at all? 1:35:24.240 --> 1:35:26.120 No, I'm not worried about that. Look, the guys, they 1:35:26.200 --> 1:35:28.760 understand every week is its own weekend. You know, it's 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:31.080 my job, you know, we'll get there on Wednesdays, is 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:32.040 to change the page. 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:32.800 So you. 1:35:36.840 --> 1:35:39.000 Feel farther away than maybe even you. 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:40.800 Wow took his job? 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:41.720 No, not at all. 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:44.960 You know, look, I don't wanna go back and say 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:46.559 we should have won this or should cause we should 1:35:46.560 --> 1:35:47.800 have lo I mean we could have lost all of 1:35:47.800 --> 1:35:51.280 the games. And saying that we just gotta keep working, 1:35:51.360 --> 1:35:53.120 going out there with the players that we have and 1:35:53.120 --> 1:35:53.879 and get better. 1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:56.000 Offensively. 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:58.360 What do you think that having success? 1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:00.320 I mean that kind of goes back to what I 1:36:00.360 --> 1:36:03.720 said earlier. It's a mentality. It's a mentality and it's 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:10.639 about re establishing the line of scrimmage. I mean, yeah, 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:14.000 we need more from Polk, We need more concentration. Uh, 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:16.320 he'll be a a good player in this league. Just 1:36:16.360 --> 1:36:17.439 gotta continue to work at it. 1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:18.760 Offensively. 1:36:19.000 --> 1:36:21.320 You had ten points on the first two drives, But 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:23.800 what did you see change after that? 1:36:27.240 --> 1:36:29.639 Again, I'll go back and look at the film. Uh 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:31.680 it it would be easy to say, you know, the 1:36:32.439 --> 1:36:34.040 you know, the vibe on the sideline was down. It 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:35.880 wasn't down. It was still Ugh it wasj I. It 1:36:35.920 --> 1:36:38.560 always comes back to execution in my eyes, and just 1:36:38.600 --> 1:36:41.519 didn't do it. It wasn't like a big adjustment that 1:36:41.560 --> 1:36:43.120 was made or anything. Like that. We just wanna make 1:36:43.160 --> 1:36:43.519 in the place. 1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:45.040 Uh. 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:47.360 I mean, do you wish you had brought the team 1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:48.400 are earlier. 1:36:48.040 --> 1:36:51.040 To get like that? Nah? H. Look, once again, we 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:53.680 started the game off fast and they felt you know, 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:56.920 they felt good. I asked multiple players and we just 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:59.200 didn't finish. But usually word. 1:36:59.000 --> 1:37:00.200 Concentration when you were talking. 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:06.120 Is a almost growing toward the Oh. I don't think so. 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:07.960 I think every single week is its own weekend. 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:08.800 Uh. 1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:10.320 You gotta hit the reset button. 1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:10.680 Uh. 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:13.920 And that includes concentration, attention to the details, all of 1:37:13.960 --> 1:37:14.400 those things. 1:37:14.840 --> 1:37:15.519 How that concern? 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.519 How do you use how do you motivation? 1:37:19.200 --> 1:37:22.800 What do you struggle like to Well, first, I have 1:37:22.840 --> 1:37:24.680 to remind him he's a young football player, and I'm 1:37:24.680 --> 1:37:26.800 not using that as an excuse, but I mean, this 1:37:26.880 --> 1:37:31.120 isn't the last iteration or evolution of Jalen polp. He 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.040 She says, to get back in the in the in 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:34.680 the uh the meeting rooms, and then go back out 1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:35.880 there on the field and get better. 1:37:36.120 --> 1:37:40.240 A message to them. 1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:42.200 Every time I talk to you guys, I I n 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:44.519 understand that the players read all of that stuff. So 1:37:44.560 --> 1:37:47.400 I always use this vehicle as a way to reinforce 1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:49.759 a message or get a message out to those guys. 1:37:49.840 --> 1:37:54.439 Do you think there's always a way to be harder. 1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:57.519 I think there's there's always a balance in doing that. Again, 1:37:57.680 --> 1:38:00.400 like we you know, six straight losses. I mean they 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:03.360 they feel bad about it as well as a professional player, 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.760 like you feel bad about losses just like everyone else. 1:38:06.880 --> 1:38:08.920 And it's about just going back to the drawing board 1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:10.120 and trying to put some stuff together. 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:13.519 They describe a team as a soft and me, how 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:13.880 would you. 1:38:13.880 --> 1:38:15.120 Describe the coaching staff? 1:38:16.160 --> 1:38:16.280 Uh? 1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:18.640 Look, the coaches it well, first it starts with me, 1:38:18.920 --> 1:38:22.880 and you know, it's about just the mentality of going 1:38:22.880 --> 1:38:25.000 back to having a tough football team and I just 1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:26.639 have to do a better job. And like I said, 1:38:26.640 --> 1:38:28.800 I'll you know, I'll uh think it through on the 1:38:28.800 --> 1:38:33.920 playing right home, the fun where you just feel close challenging. 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:35.000 Uh. 1:38:35.040 --> 1:38:36.960 Look, it's hard to win football games in the NFL, 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:40.439 and I I totally understand that. I've talked to season coaches, 1:38:40.479 --> 1:38:42.920 head coaches around the league and they say the same thing. 1:38:42.960 --> 1:38:45.439 It's tough. It's tough. And then once again, uh, every 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:48.200 week is its own week. Coach what last process school? 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:48.599 Uh? 1:38:49.040 --> 1:38:52.040 So of the most successful begin up one six second 1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:54.160 off the season. What's what goes to people in the 1:38:54.200 --> 1:38:55.519 place to the least can shoot. 1:38:55.600 --> 1:38:57.880 That's gonna be something this team. 1:38:58.040 --> 1:38:58.240 Yup. 1:38:59.040 --> 1:39:01.760 I think the main goal is the next week, thank you, 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:03.040 and there you go. 1:39:03.040 --> 1:39:05.920 There's your head. Coach. Drob Mayo asked about Jalen polk 1:39:06.439 --> 1:39:09.360 Uh softening a little bit, saying that he will be 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:11.000 a good player in this league. He just needs to 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:13.040 continue to work at it. Didn't say anything about his 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:16.519 mental issues. Also asked about the decision to go for it, 1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:20.559 go for two after scoring the touchdown, and uh, you 1:39:20.600 --> 1:39:23.360 know what, he brought up something that we hadn't mentioned before. 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:26.840 If that way they know what they need. So I 1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:30.200 think I think he's I think he's brought me around 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:35.120 on this. He he did say it's a philosophical decision. 1:39:35.439 --> 1:39:36.720 Other people disagree. 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:39.400 Why wouldn't like if it was just about knowing what 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:42.000 you need, right, Why wouldn't you just kick a field 1:39:42.000 --> 1:39:42.920 goal on third down? 1:39:43.439 --> 1:39:46.160 Save some time? Well, now you know what you need, 1:39:46.439 --> 1:39:47.200 right right? 1:39:47.680 --> 1:39:47.840 You know? 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:51.920 He set it down nine with down twelve. 1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:54.960 Knowing what you need, knowing what you have, knowing what 1:39:55.000 --> 1:39:57.880 you can do without. That's inventory. I don't I don't. 1:39:58.000 --> 1:39:59.960 I don't get it. I just don't get it either. 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:03.559 There's a lot of analytics stuff that is sort of 1:40:03.600 --> 1:40:05.400 taking the league over that I think has been for 1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:07.640 the better. I think more teams are willing to go 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:12.320 forward on fourth down, even in uncon unconventional spots on 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:14.479 the field, which I think is smart. I think it's 1:40:14.479 --> 1:40:19.040 good football. I just can't understand why you would rather 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:21.160 be down nine so you know you need two scores 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:22.760 with eight minutes left from the game, rather than be 1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:24.439 down eight no one, you only need one score. 1:40:24.560 --> 1:40:27.080 I know it's a philosophy. I don't know why I don't. 1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:30.000 I don't understand why it's better because you know what 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:31.320 you need. I don't understand that. 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:33.640 Yeah, i'd say too on Polk, Like, I don't think 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:35.559 I've ever seen anything like this. I mean it's not 1:40:35.640 --> 1:40:38.479 that extreme, but like I've never in my time here 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:41.280 watching all the training camp and seeing a player and 1:40:41.320 --> 1:40:43.000 thinking like, all right, this guy's going to be pretty 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:46.280 good to just see kind of a mental block. I 1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:50.759 don't know that's the tweet or I guess the ig 1:40:51.280 --> 1:40:53.360 story that he put up with just the peace sign, 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:56.080 But I don't know. I just I've never usually can 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:58.280 get a good sense of how player is. And you know, 1:40:58.320 --> 1:41:00.519 we've seen plenty of receivers over my time. Year man, 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:03.280 that guy just can't get open. He's inconsistent, he has 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:06.840 drops or he gets hurt. And with Polke it he felt. Man, 1:41:06.880 --> 1:41:09.920 he looks pretty solid and somehow he is. Uh, he's 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:12.080 just I've never seen a player kind of fighting it 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:12.799 like this before. 1:41:12.880 --> 1:41:14.880 All right, what did Drake May have to say after 1:41:15.120 --> 1:41:18.479 his performance today in the thirty two to sixteen loss 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:22.200 to the Jaguars in London. Let's hear from the quarterback 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:22.679 right now? 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:27.000 Character. 1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.320 Yeah, No, We've been preaching fast start, you know, VP 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:34.040 he want us to start fast. 1:41:34.040 --> 1:41:35.240 He said it last week. We didn't do it. 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:36.439 But I feel like, you know, we did that today 1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:39.000 and just didn't sustain it long enough. You know, had 1:41:39.000 --> 1:41:40.720 some chances down in the red zone that second drive 1:41:40.760 --> 1:41:43.800 that wish I have back. No other than that, I 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:46.280 think what coach Mayo's preaching me have to run the football, 1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:49.400 and when we do throw it on first and second down, 1:41:49.560 --> 1:41:51.880 then we gotta I gotta find some completions to get 1:41:51.920 --> 1:41:53.760 us in you know, third manageable. You know, third and 1:41:53.800 --> 1:41:54.759 longs hard in this league. 1:41:54.760 --> 1:41:56.320 And I thought. 1:41:56.160 --> 1:41:58.120 The guy's battle, you know, especially up front. This guy's 1:41:58.120 --> 1:42:00.920 playing their butts off those guys a lot up front, 1:42:00.960 --> 1:42:03.160 and I feel like we made some plays just not 1:42:03.200 --> 1:42:03.679 good enough. 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:04.559 What do you think. 1:42:06.280 --> 1:42:06.760 Fast start? 1:42:07.320 --> 1:42:11.080 Yeah, I think yeah, But I think other than maybe 1:42:11.080 --> 1:42:12.840 one or two other games this season, we just you know, 1:42:12.880 --> 1:42:14.960 we hadn't fast started fast in a while. It was 1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:17.840 kind of it was something new for us. So you know, 1:42:17.840 --> 1:42:20.920 probably the guys were starting fast. I think I had, 1:42:21.000 --> 1:42:22.920 you know, KB open and you know the third down 1:42:22.960 --> 1:42:25.360 down there, you know, in the second drive, maybe punch 1:42:25.400 --> 1:42:26.840 one in, you'll punch another one in, and you know, 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:29.200 maybe a different ball game, so maybe you know, a 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:30.720 couple of throws here and there, you know for me 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:33.240 as well. And then other than that, we just gotta, 1:42:33.840 --> 1:42:35.960 I guess, just find out your ways to you know, 1:42:36.000 --> 1:42:38.680 get first downs. And I feel like the Jackson nice 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:41.240 job of you know, time possession shoot we had for 1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:43.200 a while there in the second half, one drive the 1:42:43.280 --> 1:42:44.639 whole half until the end, so. 1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:46.960 Uh, no credit him. 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:50.479 And then just gotta, I don't know, work harder, Uh 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:53.080 find something different, you know, find something different. 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:54.800 Here. 1:42:54.920 --> 1:42:59.160 And several times and you say that. 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:01.960 To yeah, I mean, coach Mayo's not gonna come in 1:43:01.960 --> 1:43:03.720 here and say something he hasn't said us in the 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:05.640 locker room. You know, I think you're not tough. You 1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:08.599 always preach being tough. He appreachies today. You know, being 1:43:08.600 --> 1:43:10.600 tough is you know, running the football, stop in the 1:43:10.640 --> 1:43:13.760 run and covering kicks is what he said. So I 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:15.559 think he does a great job of leading the leela 1:43:15.600 --> 1:43:17.559 and the messages and then the guys know, you know, 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:20.840 John Jones gave speech after the game saying, you know 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:22.759 you gotta find it. You know, you gotta find something 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:24.800 and uh, you know what we're doing is not good enough, 1:43:24.840 --> 1:43:38.800 and you've got a man up. 1:43:40.520 --> 1:43:40.760 Yeah. 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:43.320 I think the little things. I think little things like 1:43:43.360 --> 1:43:44.920 you know, the false stars that falls off on me. 1:43:45.439 --> 1:43:48.120 We gotta be more, you know, clearing up front with 1:43:48.320 --> 1:43:50.680 the cadence, with the line and and those guys. But 1:43:50.720 --> 1:43:52.960 other than that, I took care of the football maybe 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:55.439 one time, uh one, two times endangered it and then 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:58.240 on that last one the fourth down just it's just 1:43:58.280 --> 1:44:00.800 football there. But uh than that, I feel like I'm 1:44:00.800 --> 1:44:03.519 seeing it well, make a few different throws. But other 1:44:03.560 --> 1:44:04.840 than that, I think you do a better job on 1:44:04.880 --> 1:44:07.880 the sideline sometimes pumping the guys up or you know, 1:44:07.920 --> 1:44:10.400 really in some messages to different guys that may you 1:44:10.439 --> 1:44:12.200 may see this, Hey what are you thinking, and and 1:44:12.240 --> 1:44:14.320 little things like that. But you know, I thought we 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:16.559 you know, had some some bright spots again today, but 1:44:17.000 --> 1:44:24.559 like I said, not good enough. Yeah, they uh guys, 1:44:24.600 --> 1:44:26.120 it's the hot you know, we're hot to the back 1:44:26.160 --> 1:44:28.040 and they ended up bringing I think back are in 1:44:28.200 --> 1:44:30.760 safety and you know, they dropped out the guy the 1:44:30.760 --> 1:44:33.679 defense vent on the opposite side. So just find a completion, 1:44:33.800 --> 1:44:35.599 you know it third and Timber already field goal range 1:44:35.880 --> 1:44:37.479 and then Hasey made play. I think they'll do more 1:44:37.520 --> 1:44:39.640 of that of getting her guys the ball and let 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:41.559 him make plays. And I thought I tried to do 1:44:41.560 --> 1:44:43.760 that today. I found the checkdowns you know, uh uh, 1:44:44.040 --> 1:44:46.240 you know, besides that last drive just when they're playing deep. 1:44:46.280 --> 1:44:47.640 You know, I found some checkdowns earlier on in the 1:44:47.640 --> 1:44:49.320 game that helped us. And I feel like, you know, 1:44:49.320 --> 1:44:50.800 a little plays like that in the first second down. 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:53.520 Can you'll go a long way for us. 1:44:56.120 --> 1:44:56.559 This week? 1:44:56.720 --> 1:45:00.080 As do these feel. 1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:07.800 Weel, yeah, I think more and more, you know, more 1:45:07.800 --> 1:45:09.400 and more you're out there and you've seeing different things, 1:45:09.439 --> 1:45:12.639 seeing different fronts, seeing different cover coverages and uh getting 1:45:12.640 --> 1:45:15.160 a better feel. You know, I think the Jags, you know, 1:45:15.200 --> 1:45:16.880 did some different stuff of playing guys a different spot 1:45:16.880 --> 1:45:19.439 in the same coverage and then other than that, you know, 1:45:19.479 --> 1:45:21.519 I'm here to help the football team win and we're 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:35.120 not getting that done, so you gotta do something different. Yeah, No, 1:45:35.240 --> 1:45:36.920 I think you know, JP's a great player. You know 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:39.080 he's making plays. You know that it's a little slick 1:45:39.080 --> 1:45:41.559 out there. Sometimes the ball's on the paint and you know, 1:45:41.560 --> 1:45:44.720 the paint all over the ball, so it's I think, 1:45:44.840 --> 1:45:46.360 you know, it's just the field a little bit better 1:45:46.439 --> 1:45:48.519 than that. I gotta find ways to get the football early. 1:45:48.520 --> 1:45:49.800 You know, I can get him in the game early. 1:45:49.840 --> 1:45:52.360 I think that will help help him. You'll feel involved. 1:45:52.880 --> 1:45:54.200 Gotta make a better throw to him on the corner 1:45:54.280 --> 1:45:56.280 out on the first drives, you know, little things like 1:45:56.320 --> 1:45:58.080 that to get him involved. Cause you know, he's a 1:45:58.080 --> 1:45:59.479 good player for us and you know we need him 1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:02.479 out there. So it's on me to you know, kind 1:46:02.479 --> 1:46:04.559 of get him going. And throughout the week he's always 1:46:04.560 --> 1:46:06.479 asked me to watch film and and little things like that, 1:46:06.520 --> 1:46:08.760 and I guess so after practice he's always there, so 1:46:08.920 --> 1:46:10.720 you know, maybe You've got to do more. You know 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:13.040 what we're doing is that, you know, do more. 1:46:14.560 --> 1:46:17.160 Guys starting to how. 1:46:18.840 --> 1:46:22.679 Game the last Yeah, you know, Pop's a great player 1:46:22.720 --> 1:46:24.600 for us, and you made a great you'll play on. 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:26.400 You know, a couple of good players in the first drive. 1:46:26.800 --> 1:46:28.120 But you know it's next man up. You know this 1:46:28.240 --> 1:46:30.960 is the NFL. You know, some big dudes clodding into 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:33.320 each other out there on the field. So you got 1:46:33.320 --> 1:46:35.240 the next man up. And you'll credit to Pop for 1:46:35.240 --> 1:46:37.320 battling through and being out there as much as he can. 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:40.000 He's a great player for us and hopefully have him back. 1:46:40.760 --> 1:46:44.000 Thank You'll all right, there goes Drake May after his 1:46:44.320 --> 1:46:47.280 performance today thirty two to sixteen the final from London, 1:46:47.320 --> 1:46:52.679 where uh he himself played well early on, certainly during 1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:55.120 the uh the opening driver to ended up twenty six 1:46:55.160 --> 1:46:56.880 at thirty seven on the day for two hundred and 1:46:56.920 --> 1:47:00.320 seventy six yards, two touchdowns, no picks, but certainly not 1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:03.200 enough after things just kind of stalled and the defense 1:47:03.640 --> 1:47:06.760 couldn't get a stop. I didn't even know it, I 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:09.120 didn't even plan on doing it, but I think I've 1:47:09.160 --> 1:47:11.519 just kind of encapsulated my thoughts on. 1:47:11.479 --> 1:47:13.360 Today's game that's pretty much it, right, I mean, you 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:15.280 just you'd love to see what would happen if they 1:47:15.280 --> 1:47:16.519 had a little bit more of a running game, if 1:47:16.520 --> 1:47:18.759 they got some stops on defense, if they got forbid, 1:47:18.800 --> 1:47:21.240 got some takeaways on defense, things like that that can 1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:23.840 affect the game positively for the Patriots offense and put 1:47:23.840 --> 1:47:24.799 them in a better position. 1:47:24.920 --> 1:47:26.880 So, you know, they did a little bit, but not. 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:28.920 Enough, and they certainly didn't get much help from them 1:47:28.920 --> 1:47:30.000 more to special teams. 1:47:30.320 --> 1:47:33.439 There's been another explanation of the decision to go for 1:47:33.479 --> 1:47:37.200 too early from Ben Volin. He says it's probably the 1:47:37.240 --> 1:47:40.519 right decision. There's still down nine, but now they know 1:47:40.760 --> 1:47:43.280 they need two scores and have a twenty two left. 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:45.360 Had they waited until the end of the game to 1:47:45.400 --> 1:47:47.920 go for two and failed, they wouldn't have had enough 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:50.679 time to make it up. One of the first comments 1:47:50.720 --> 1:47:54.559 after that post was the quote, it's better to be 1:47:54.600 --> 1:47:57.000 down two scores than one score in a game you've 1:47:57.040 --> 1:48:01.600 struggled to score points in with with the guy with 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:06.679 the guy with uh what's his name from the hangover? Yeah, yeah, doing. 1:48:06.479 --> 1:48:08.439 The the ra beautiful mind. 1:48:08.560 --> 1:48:11.400 Yeah yeah, it's like no, no, you're you're not gonna 1:48:11.400 --> 1:48:14.439 get I need something in all seriousness, so we've had 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:17.120 some fun with the whole nine thing, right, I need 1:48:17.120 --> 1:48:19.000 somebody to give me something. 1:48:18.680 --> 1:48:22.360 Other than you know what you need. I need another reason, 1:48:22.439 --> 1:48:23.760 another factor. 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:25.679 Give me some give me. Give me a stance as 1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:30.960 a percentage of success for teams that have done it 1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:33.880 both ways, where are you more likely to succeed but 1:48:34.200 --> 1:48:36.960 to situations? How about that to me? Like that's see. 1:48:37.000 --> 1:48:38.840 I think that's part of the problem is too much 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:42.720 of the analytics is completely results oriented. It's not you know, 1:48:43.080 --> 1:48:46.559 I've seen a million bad decisions that worked. It doesn't 1:48:46.560 --> 1:48:49.920 make it right just because it worked. So I would 1:48:49.960 --> 1:48:53.200 like I just scoreboard. I get yeah, thank you Felger, 1:48:53.400 --> 1:48:55.600 perfect scoreboard perfect because I don't know if you know, 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:57.880 but Patrick Mahomes didn't play as a rookie and he 1:48:57.960 --> 1:48:59.439 turned out to be a great quarterback. So that means 1:48:59.439 --> 1:49:00.920 if he had played is a rookie, he would stink 1:49:02.000 --> 1:49:06.800 right scoreboard, scoreboard. So I can't point you're trying to 1:49:06.800 --> 1:49:08.840 make it. My point is maybe if he played as 1:49:08.880 --> 1:49:10.040 a rookie he'd be even better. 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:12.040 I don't know. He never played as a rookie, so 1:49:12.080 --> 1:49:12.639 I can't. 1:49:12.439 --> 1:49:15.240 Really prove that, but scoreboard tells me that he's a 1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:18.599 really good player and absence of scoreboard, Right, that's what 1:49:18.640 --> 1:49:21.360 you said, So I need something other than. 1:49:22.680 --> 1:49:23.639 That way you know what you need? 1:49:23.800 --> 1:49:25.840 Because I like, why is it better? Like so there's 1:49:25.880 --> 1:49:28.720 eight minutes left and I know I need one score? Like, 1:49:28.760 --> 1:49:29.519 what's wrong with that? 1:49:29.880 --> 1:49:32.040 Because all I hear is I'd rather know I'm down 1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:33.800 by two scores than be down by one score. 1:49:33.880 --> 1:49:36.000 No, but like that way, you know what you need. 1:49:36.120 --> 1:49:37.800 If you kick it and you're down eight, you don't 1:49:37.840 --> 1:49:41.120 know what you need, Like I need something other than 1:49:41.280 --> 1:49:42.120 you know what you need? 1:49:43.760 --> 1:49:46.680 That is all that's the you know what you just 1:49:46.880 --> 1:49:49.519 you saved it for the end, but that's the best point. 1:49:49.600 --> 1:49:52.200 If you kicked the extra point, you know what you need. 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:54.839 That's why I'm That's why I'm harping on that phrase 1:49:54.920 --> 1:49:58.160 so much, like why is it better to know you 1:49:58.160 --> 1:49:59.200 need two scores than one? 1:49:59.400 --> 1:49:59.519 Right? 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:02.280 Either way, you know what you need? Do see need 1:50:02.280 --> 1:50:04.080 anything else? Do you have any other final thoughts? 1:50:04.200 --> 1:50:04.280 No? 1:50:04.600 --> 1:50:05.240 No, I don't. 1:50:05.479 --> 1:50:08.400 It was a tough loss and I'm not really Yeah, 1:50:08.439 --> 1:50:11.120 the Jets coming in with Devanta Adams will see how 1:50:11.120 --> 1:50:14.120 that looks with them and you know, it's a rejuvenated offense. 1:50:14.360 --> 1:50:16.360 The defense they just got to find something. They gotta 1:50:16.360 --> 1:50:18.240 find ways to get stops, makefield. They don't know the 1:50:18.240 --> 1:50:20.479 players really to go to. I'm not sure how they're 1:50:20.479 --> 1:50:21.400 gonna pull it out of a hat. 1:50:21.479 --> 1:50:24.280 Yeah, this I totally agree with Mike. If you cannot 1:50:24.360 --> 1:50:26.280 find a way to play better defense, it's not really 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:26.760 gonna matter. 1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:31.479 Well, gentlemen, it's been an absolute uh giggle fest being 1:50:31.520 --> 1:50:33.479 back with you. Thank you so much for having our 1:50:33.520 --> 1:50:35.960 three coming out. It's been a gas. It's been a gas. 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:36.920 No. 1:50:37.200 --> 1:50:38.840 No, as a matter of fact, there is no hour three. 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:41.240 I really do appreciate you coming. Yeah, I would it 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:43.519 would have taken away our fun if Mike, if you know, 1:50:43.520 --> 1:50:45.519 I would have made my coast. So it would have 1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:45.960 taken some. 1:50:45.920 --> 1:50:47.519 Time when you have like a brief fling with your 1:50:47.520 --> 1:50:49.639 ex and they get, God, what do we have? 1:50:49.960 --> 1:50:51.080 Work? 1:50:51.400 --> 1:50:52.280 Work? 1:50:52.400 --> 1:50:53.840 Why couldn't we make this? Well, we're in love with 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:54.640 different people now, so what. 1:50:54.640 --> 1:50:54.880 Do you want? 1:50:54.960 --> 1:50:56.640 If I stuck around for a third hour, it'd be 1:50:56.680 --> 1:51:00.360 painfully obvious why it didn't work. But no, I I've 1:51:00.360 --> 1:51:03.160 watched the show every week with you and Matt, and 1:51:03.720 --> 1:51:05.519 it's been great, so thank you for having me back 1:51:05.560 --> 1:51:10.880 for this game today, presented by DraftKings here on the 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:13.599 Patriots Postgame Show, the final score for the final time 1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:19.120 Patriots sixteen Jaguars thirty two. 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