1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: What's up his way up at Angela. Yee. I'm here 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: for Wealth Wednesdays with my girl Stacy Tisdale. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: I mean Wealth Wednesdays everybody, and we are glad. You 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: could be speechless on radio, it would be, but not really. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: But we're so excited. We have the one, the only, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: the incomparable Nicole Ari Parker, actress, entrepreneur, friend, all the things. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: We are so excited to have you here today. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be and go get your dreaming rep. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, we all have to go and order those 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: last time. Yeah, they were here because I'm back on 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: my little workout journey. Just a fyi baby, and time 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: is coming and then this summer and then we gotta 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: be ready. Now listen, there's something I need that I 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: need something for these braids. I'm gonna tell you what. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I was going in a gym and now I have 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: to do push ups, which I could do ten in 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: a row now, yeah, but it's that's huge. 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: Are you on your knees? 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: No? 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: Real? 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Ten? And then I have to plank for a few 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: seconds and then yeah, good. But I was like, I 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: need something some my braids don't hit the ground. Well, 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: I can help you with that. Okay, tell me about it, 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: tell me about it. This is what I love. 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: First of all, if everyone listening follows today on your 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: show and your show Stacy, they will get a free gift. 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: Oh yes, indeed, tell them where to get it. Just 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: follow us, Just follow us and follow us gym Wrap 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: on Instagram. I'm doing this whole thing because I love 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: your show. That everyone who's listening, if they just follow, 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: I will see that they followed and they would get 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: a free gift. Okay, but for edges. You know, when 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: I created the gym Wrap, I created for all of 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: the things you're talking about. For the person who doesn't 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: worry about their hair losing their blowout, they just want 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: to keep their edges laid down they want it, or 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: the real athletes who just wants to absorb the sweat. 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: So my gym rap does all. 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Of those things exactly. 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: Yes. 42 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: So, and it's that time too, because we got to 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: get back and I got to get it back, like 44 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to go back running again. But I told 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: you when you walked in here, I was like, I 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: love how you have your edges out in the front. 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm just giving my edges a little break. 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: I recommend this to every sister out here who has 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: suffered through the edge nightmare and growing your edges back. 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: Like the gym wrap. Actually, I just took mine off. 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 3: I have it in my bag. I wear it out 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: even when I'm socializing and running errands and things. I 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: have a black one on today and I took it 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: off just to be on your show. But it made 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: my edges grow back because it was less manipulation, less 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: all the things we do with the baby hair gel 57 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: and everything, and just having my edges protected just made 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: them come back. 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: I had nothing fantastic. Thank you. I had to take 60 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: a step back for everyone out there. We know you. 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: Recorded, yeah camera, okay, yes, I just keep it here 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: for y'all to let you know that I created this 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: product with all of us in mind, and I'm living 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: the dream. 65 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: And well gim rep is literally uh And we'll get 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: into it. I know you guys want to talk about 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: encouraging people to follow through on their ideas. It was 68 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: just an idea I had about opting out of our 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: health because of our hair. And I sat down and 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: I made my first prototype in my kitchen, and I 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: I had no business degree. I went to n y 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: U for for acting for theater Tish and yeah, it 73 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: worked out little bit, But I had that. I did 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: have the wherewithal and the will from my family, from 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: my mother and father to tell me to follow through, 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: Like like if I said I was going to do something, 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: you got to do it. So I did have that, 78 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: that fearlessness in terms of starting a business with no 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: business degree. And I just had this idea that we 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: as Black women and as Latino women and as women 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: in general, we were choosing our hair over our health. 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: And I made it. I've told the story a million 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: times but four but here I am in twenty twenty 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: six and the I and it's taking off like it's 85 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: it blew up. 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: It's something that you knew you needed and therefore you 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: know we needed it. 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes, so important. It's thirty percent of black women don't 89 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: exercise and they say their hair is the main cause 90 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: of that. Yeah. 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: I am one of those people when I'm like, my 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: hair is. 93 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because the black hair business is also 94 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: a billion dollar business and we don't play about our hair. 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: And I get it. Yeah, if you're going to make 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: a choice, I'm trying to where my money went last Saturday. 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I would literally be like, I have an appearance. I 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: can't do this because my hair. 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And so I was trying to figure out 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: and I wanted to get I wanted to get the 101 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: stats on it, because not just being a black woman 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: and knowing what I go through, I really wanted some numbers. 103 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: So that year that I created it, and I think 104 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: it was twenty and ten, maybe wow, and or yeah, 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, I got a meeting with doctor Regina Benjamin, 106 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: who was the surgeon Chadow at the time of the 107 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: United States of America. I got a meeting with Wow, 108 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: doctor Regina Benjamin, and so I got the most breathtaking, 109 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: startling real stats about us as women of color in 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 3: this country that seventy five eighty percent of the things 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: that were taking us out, like killing us were preventable 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: with diet and exercise. Yeah, absolute heart, heart disease, stroke, 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: fiber Everything that was taking us out wasn't genetic, it 114 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: wasn't a curse, it wasn't just because of our history 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: in this country. It was straight self care. 116 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes the things they put in our products that 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: we need to use also can cause cancer and other issues. 118 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: Yes, the aluminium, the metals, the heavy metals, the plastics, 119 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: the synthetics everything. I have human hair in my hair 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: today for the period and it looks like it is 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: the very It's only three weeks. No, but yeah, so 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: I was just blown away that I had this idea. 123 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: We can get into it about what preventable really means 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: and what were you and what do you think you're 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: trying to do, and what do you think you're trying 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: to preserve and putting all of those things in the 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: right order. Like I want to be cute. I had 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: just had kids, I had I had a twenty seven 129 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: pounds extras of water and milk, stuff and stuff I had, 130 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: you know, Boris Kojo as my husband. I wanted to 131 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: be cute for him, and it just wasn't working. I 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: was too tired to work out. And then if I 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: had time to go to the hairdresser, I took. I 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: took that. 135 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: I opted out of it. 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to work out. 137 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to work out. 138 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: So so I you know, I was in this space 139 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: of But also, exercise is not just for weight loss. 140 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: To the sisters out here who love being juicy and thick, like, yes, 141 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: that is a form of self care, loving yourself but 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: as you are. But the no, no, no, it's exercise 143 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: relieves stress. 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be great for somebody. 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: It's you closer to a meditative state when you need 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: to talk to God. It's not just about weight loss, 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: it's about everything. It moves your blood and your oxygen 148 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: through your body that you don't have to surrender to 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: anybody's standard of beauty. But exercise that I've learned as 150 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: a grown up now clears my mind. 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, mentally, And look even I just put my parents 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: a vibrating plate, one of those vibrating yes, and you 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: know you're supposed to work out on those, and it's 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: like a low impact or whatever. But it's really good, 155 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: like for your bones and for your souls because you 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: also don't later on in life. It is certainly it 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: is a benefit to us, and it is like a 158 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: blessing to be able to grow old, But you also 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: want to grow old in a way where you're able 160 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: to still do the things you know. You want to 161 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: still be able to go take a great walk, you 162 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: want to go up and down the steps and your 163 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: knee is not hurt and not being able to it's 164 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: just so many things that we have to start thinking 165 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: about now so that later on, like you said, preventatives, 166 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: that we age gracefully. 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: But also you know, I also have a thing about 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: future thinking that creates an anxiety, and you're like, well, 169 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: let me do this so I will be okay. 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 171 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, There's something about exercise that I learned late in 172 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: life that it really helps you stay in the now. 173 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: Like if your teenage son or teenage daughter comes to 174 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: you with an issue that they want to confide in 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: you about, you don't have all of your stress on 176 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: top of their need for your attention. Like, it's not 177 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: just about your relationship, it's not even just about your body. 178 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: It's the way you interact with your family, your friends, 179 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: and yourself. And we will opt out of all of that, 180 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: even for our hair. Yeah, yeah, because we're still face forward, 181 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: we're still presentational and this is the world we live in. 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: But at a certain point you have to say, I 183 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: need to be here for me, I need to be 184 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 3: here for my person, and I need to be here 185 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: for my children and my family, and being there for 186 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: them is mental and physical. 187 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: You have a twenty one year old too, By the way, 188 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Sophia just turn Sophie is twenty one years old. She 189 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: looks she is absolutely beautiful, amazing. What have you taught 190 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: her about like hair care, that type of journey about 191 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: making sure that your own self care is in order, 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: because that is something that we do learn from. 193 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: Well, Sophie helped me make the first one. Oh jeez, Sophie. 194 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: If anybody has an original original gym wrap. When I 195 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: was still when I called it Savior due that's what 196 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: I say, yes, with the old old emblem on it. 197 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: Sophie helped me sew it. I cut up one of 198 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: board drive fit kind of workout shirts because I had 199 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: the stile idea that I wanted it to be absorbent. 200 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to wike away the moisture, all the things 201 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: that the athlete athletic clothes claimed to do. So I 202 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: was like, well, let me just cut this little strip. 203 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: Did you tell him first that you were now destroying hiss? Okay, 204 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: So Sophie helped me sell my first prototype. But she's 205 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: now a junior at Howard finishing up her junior year. 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: She'll be here with me this summer working. She's in 207 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: sports management. Okay, that's really just yes, I'm telling your 208 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: business you really just about running her brother's career as 209 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: an athlete. 210 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: But she is. 211 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: She's always been kind of artistic and crafty and she 212 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: could cook, she can make things. She you know, she's 213 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: always been on top of it. So she was my 214 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: first assistant. 215 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Amazing. 216 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much more to the hair journey. The 217 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: health is such a big part of it. But I 218 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: remember when you and I first met each other that day, yes, 219 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: five hour lunch, I know, and we were talking so 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: much about the pressure that we've feled to assimilate, and 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that. And also there used to 222 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: there was a lot in California that you had to 223 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: wear your hair a certain way about you know, black Wood. 224 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Their hairstyle had to be a certain way so it 225 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: wasn't offensive in the workplace. Hair is such a big. 226 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Thing to this day and to this day. Yeah, still 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: to this day. I mean, we've come a long way. 228 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: But one of my friends actually over the weekend did 229 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: an event and she has curly hair, and she said, 230 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: you know, it was an event with a lot of 231 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: white people, so she straightened her hair for it because 232 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: she said, I don't want people coming up to me 233 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: and touching my hair and being like, oh, you know 234 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: what's going on with your hair. And I don't even 235 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: want to get her in trouble for this because they're 236 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: probably But anyway, people say certain things to black women 237 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to our hair, when we're in different environments. 238 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Even being on TV being a news reporter, that was 239 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, we literally had to have the Crown Act. 240 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the Crown Act. And I wondered, how 241 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: much you feel this and you know this so deeply 242 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: as everything, how much did those sensibilities. I just want 243 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: black women to not worry about their hair at all 244 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: played into this whole gym rat movement. 245 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: I think when you're sharing space, like we're always considered 246 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: the other, but really we're the center and everyone else's 247 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: the other in that situation. Like, I was one of 248 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: six black girls in an all white, all girl private 249 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: school my whole life from second to twelfth grade. I 250 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: took two buses to school in Baltimore, and I had 251 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: an incredible education, but I did not. I come from 252 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: parents who were like, it's the summer, you're gonna get 253 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: your hair braided, right, So by the time school year started, 254 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: I still had braids, and then I would have my 255 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: hair wet and you know, washing go curly, frizzy, pool 256 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: fee black girl, young black girl hair. Then my cousin 257 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: would do my braids, you know what I mean. So 258 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 3: I had to be me and then be subjected to questions. 259 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: But my self esteem was so intact that I just 260 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: answered the questions and let it and shut it down. 261 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: Thank goodness, I didn't get I didn't get a double 262 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: consciousness from them. I didn't really have that kind of 263 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: You know, when you leave an environment like that, you 264 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: think you're equipped, But then when you're an adult and 265 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: it's still there, that's when you're like exhausted, burnt out, 266 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: can't believe it all the things, and you don't realize 267 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: how much trauma you've actually been through your whole life 268 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: justifying your existence. But I would rather be exhausted by 269 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: by affirming my natural beauty than not absolutely. You know, 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: if you need to keep asking me questions about me, 271 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: and I'm not asking any questions about you, I must 272 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: be doing the right thing. Yeah, I must be cut 273 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: today on Tuesday. 274 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: You I don't ask you one single question about condition. 275 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: You want to know how I got the maybe hair laid? 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: You want to know how I got the Shirley Temples. 277 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: You want to know how I got the little grease 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: down and the afro twists and then the box braids, Like. 279 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 3: I'm really busy, you know. 280 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I do want to say that it used to be 281 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: that straight hair was like all the rage. I remember, why, Yeah, 282 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: But now I feel like texture. Everybody wants to have 283 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: some type of texture, and we have so many products 284 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: on the market for it, like we didn't used to 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: have that. I remember, self esteem movement is very strong, 286 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I was a kid in the seventies, 287 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: so I grew up with self esteem in the terms 288 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: of beauty. Right. 289 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: All my cousins had afros, right, yeah, you know, so 290 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: that wasn't really my issue. But now raising a daughter 291 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: in these times, and she wanted her first press out 292 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: or she wanted her first relaxer. I never relaxed her hair, 293 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: but I just had her let her the hairdresser press 294 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: her hair or whatever it's now I had to find 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: a new vocabulary around Oh yeah, you know, strengthening her 296 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: self esteem. 297 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about gym rep and your 298 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: business savvy because this was something you also you've been 299 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: actually expanding your line of products. 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it sucks Oh. 301 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: My gosh, Oh my gosh. Okay, So I wanted to 302 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: solve a very real problem about our health, and I 303 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: created the gym Rap and it took off. And I 304 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: always give Steve Harvey credit for that. He just did 305 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: a shout out for me one time on a radio 306 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: show like You, and it was great. 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: And it's for men too, by the way. Oh yeah, 308 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: I just want to point that out too. 309 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: It's not just my tennis players, all my outdoor athletes, 310 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: all my soccer players, football players under their helmet. It's 311 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: been incredible, motorcycle biker groups, it's out of control. It's 312 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: so amazing that so many men wear my gym rap. 313 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I created it with our health in mind, 314 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: and then I expanded because I realized there was like 315 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: a whole thing around all the things we like in need. 316 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: I'm very girly that way. So I created socks and 317 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: I created leggings. And the leggings are soft. First of all, 318 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: my socks are off the chain. 319 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: They're cute. They're cute, They're cute, They're very cute. 320 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: She loves them. 321 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: Do you have them on your feet? 322 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: No? 323 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: But I need to girl, I'm not this is. 324 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm not your two dollars sock. 325 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: This is like the I'm going to get you a 326 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: pair of two sir, performance ankle socks. 327 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: And it's not fancy words. And are performance What are 328 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: the words they put. 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: On a little question, performance ankle socks, cushion, performance ankle socks. 330 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, and like the heel has a little and 331 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: the front has a little. It's delicious. And then I 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: have my leggings and of course my taie bands, my bandies, 333 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: my wide bandies, everything you could possibly want to my 334 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: full triangle. 335 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say that gym maps are really good. 336 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: Also when you are going to the pool or to 337 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: the beach. I just want to put that out there. 338 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: It's not just for working out. It's for taking a 339 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: power walk, going to the grocery store, picking up your kids, 340 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: running your errand it's everything. 341 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Also going to sleep at night. I do want to 342 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: say that. 343 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have been to many event okay, because I'm 344 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: an actor and sometimes my hairdresser lays the baby hair 345 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: down and I want to be cute the next day. 346 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so you put on your gym and I preserve this. 347 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: I preserve Yes. 348 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: I love how you're saying this. Like, oh, and I 349 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, I just created this and I didn't. You 350 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: were an entrepreneur who did not know what they were 351 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: doing when you started. How did how did you get there? 352 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: I mean when I was the tech part of it alone, 353 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 2: the technology that's behind him, How did you learn all 354 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: this stuff? 355 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: I had to, like most black women when we're doing something, 356 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: to advocate for myself, even if I didn't have the 357 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: right words. I had to find a manufacturer that understood 358 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: the idea of tech that grabbed water but then protected 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: it from the first surface. That's why it's three layers in. 360 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: There and breathable and breathable. 361 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: So I just had no fear. 362 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: And I was. 363 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: So convinced of this idea because it was solving a 364 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: personal problem my husband. We had just had Sophia Nicholas. 365 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: They were young. He wanted to get our groove back. 366 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: And the way he gets our groove back, As most 367 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: of you know, I'm married to Spartacus, his idea of 368 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: getting groove back is going for a run on the beach. 369 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: Not my idea mine either, but he would always ask 370 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: me very sweetly, let's go for a run together. Let's 371 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: go for a walk. Now that the kids are fed 372 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: whatever boom were dropped off at school, and I kept 373 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: opting out of it, and I felt so bad that 374 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: I was trying to solve a relationship issue. I was 375 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: trying to solve a hair issue. And I was trying 376 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: now that I collected all this data, I was trying 377 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: to save. 378 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: Our lives health issue. 379 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: You know, I often tell the story, and this is 380 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: a very real story that has stayed with me my 381 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: whole life. Is that I used to take Sophie to ballet, 382 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: and when she was at ballet, I would go to 383 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: the grocery store and get a cup of coffee and 384 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: was always the same girl. And she was about twenty 385 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: four to twenty five years old, beautiful, beautiful black girl. 386 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: I went there one day and it was her photo 387 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: on the cash register and I said, and I want 388 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: to say her name, but I said, where is she? 389 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: She's not here today. She passed away, wow wow, in 390 00:19:53,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: her twenties, and she was probably close to three hundred pounds. 391 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 392 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: And when I asked why she passed away or how 393 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 3: she passed away, or when they said she had a 394 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: stroke in her twenties, in her twenties, and when I 395 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: had gotten I had gathered already that information that most 396 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: of the things that are killing us are preventable. She 397 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: probably had to work to pay for her family, or 398 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: for her schooling, or for her light bill or phone 399 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: bill or car note. And she didn't carve out that 400 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: thirty minutes for a power walk for herself because she 401 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: had spent the little bit of money from her check 402 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: to keep her hair done. 403 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 404 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: When I tell you her hair was laid, she was beautiful. 405 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: Hair was done to go to work and to take 406 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: her kids to school and to run her life. But 407 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: she had not carved out twenty to thirty minutes to 408 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: take a power walk. And in that power walk, you 409 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: can pray, you can breathe, and you can burn camel. 410 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: That's all it takes. 411 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all it takes. 412 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: And that's the first thing we cut sometimes. 413 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: And I just wanted an answer to your question. After 414 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: I figured out the tech and all those things, I 415 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: knew that I was creating something that was part of 416 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: your prayer closet. 417 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: And you had to go out and raise money to 418 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: do this. 419 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just an actor. Everyone's like, oh, you 420 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: and Boris are probably like on the you know, on 421 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: the Saint Maritz every summer. We're not so, I you know, 422 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: I had a budget and all kinds of things, and 423 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: so I really just I you know, I didn't I 424 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: had enough money to find my manufacturer, pay for prototypes. 425 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: It's not cheap. It's not cheap. 426 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: Oh no, there's a white guy in an invisible phone 427 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: call a thousand miles away going So what exactly is 428 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: an edge? What's an edge? I'm like, guys, guys, guys, listened. 429 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: I need I need an absorbit layer and I need 430 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: an outer layer. All right, all right, all right, you 431 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: wanted to tie in the back and you want it 432 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: all the way around, Like yeah, yeah, so yeah, So 433 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: I needed to raise money to go through the things 434 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: like prototypes. I needed to raise money for my first 435 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: order of manufacturing and I had never done that before. 436 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah how long was that process? I would love to know. 437 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: Because there are people that have an idea and like 438 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: you said, your father encouraged you, like you gotta go ahead, quit, 439 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: don't quit and not quit? Yes for people who are 440 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: like because I also think it's important to be as 441 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: prepared as possible to know what you're getting yourself into. 442 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: Well, I say, just start, okay, start dumb. I started dumb, 443 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: as in, my rich friends had a luncheon and let 444 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: me present my product to them, and nobody butched. This 445 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: was all you know, powerful black women, white women, and 446 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: nobody budged. And then I I went to another group 447 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: of friends and I got a few investments. And this 448 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: was just to get my prototypes right. This wasn't even 449 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: in the thicket of things. And then my mom had 450 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: a lunch at her house with all of her girlfriends 451 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: in their seventies and eighties, and they were my substantial investment. 452 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Really tapping into my friends and family. 453 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: Crowdfunding and family. 454 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best I think in general. That's how 455 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: most people who are starting a business, they say that's 456 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: always the best way to get started with friends and 457 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: family rounds. 458 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: And most people feel like, I don't want to ask 459 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: my family, I don't want to ask nobody. That's a 460 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: hard thing to do, and you don't and I didn't. 461 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: I went all the way to the dream. And I 462 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: would encourage everyone, especially right now because I'm coming from 463 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: a different time period. I'm now ten twelve years out 464 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: from my first prototype. Now you've got twenty year olds 465 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: at wanting to invest. You got millionaires everywhere, and people went. 466 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: So that you could really yeah, crowdfund on these platforms, 467 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: but people who don't even know you personally. 468 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: That's right and I but I think the through line 469 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: is I knew that I was onto something and it 470 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: turned out to be incredible, and I've crossed every demographic 471 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: that I've ever could imagine. But you just start where 472 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: you are. The one thing I will tell people is 473 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: that I did not have shame. Yeah I did, and 474 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: I knew how to recover from a father and how 475 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: to recover from the No. 476 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you, because sometimes 477 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I heard know all day like I'm not going to cry. 478 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah that's tough because, like you said, the first couple 479 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: of rounds didn't go so well for you. And presenting 480 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: your product, how do you like? First of all, getting 481 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: your pitch right to is important, I think, but as 482 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: an actor, my pitch was amazing. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, 483 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: do you again? I had no fear about no fear, 484 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: but also like just to keep going. How do you 485 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: get that mindset for a person who may go out 486 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: and like, start. 487 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Money wasn't my goal? 488 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Okay? 489 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 3: And I know that people where they're like, oh, this 490 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: is going to be my money maker. No, I was 491 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: really passionately, spiritually invested in this product. It's like someone 492 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: who's made the first like heart resuscitation gases right like 493 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: you you know this is something. If the heart is 494 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: based on electricity, and I can create this electricity, we 495 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 3: might have a shot here. If the number one thing 496 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: that is taking us out as as black women is 497 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: diet and exercise, and I've now been given an idea 498 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: from God to help us exercise. Your no is not 499 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: going to stop. 500 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: You said it. 501 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen people got that idea that day. 502 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: One person acted on it. 503 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: I like that, you know, like. 504 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: It is what it is. I'm not special. I just 505 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: I was obedient. 506 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, some people will have a great idea, 507 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: never do anything about it, and then see it come 508 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: to fruition somewhere else and be like, man, I thought 509 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: of that. I thought it. Or some people might think, oh, 510 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: this has been done already. 511 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: That's a great point. That is a really great point 512 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: because I just read up on this stat about the 513 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: idea of a headband. Right the idea of a headband 514 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: is not original, but the headband right now in the 515 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: sweat and exercise space that I entered and I'm a 516 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: top contender. Is a two billion dollar industry annually, like 517 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: I you know, like it is something. It is something. 518 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: And when you get an idea, the seventeen reasons for 519 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: it to tell you that it's nothing have to be ignored. Right, absolutely, 520 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: And now I am in the I'm in the billion 521 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: dollar space. 522 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's great. 523 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 524 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 525 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Is that girl from Baltimore? 526 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: When did you realize this would be Jim would be 527 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: a success? 528 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: Out the gate, out the gate the minute. The hardest part, 529 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: like I told you, was creating the original prototype, perfecting it, 530 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: getting a manufacturer in a far away place in Jersey 531 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: to make my prototype u uh, you know, and get 532 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: a patent and all the mathematical things you need to 533 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: start your business was very hard for me. Oh and 534 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: having business partners that don't work out. 535 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's we know that drill. 536 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: Were going to bring it up. But moving and recovering, yeah, 537 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: right about. 538 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: You know what, how do you know when somebody when 539 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: two questions about that? How do you know when somebody 540 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: is going to be a good partner? What are some things? 541 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: Because trial and error helps you realize. Okay, these are 542 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: the questions I need to be asking. And number too, 543 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: how do you know when it's time to divorce a 544 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: business partner? 545 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh? God will make it very clear. The one thing 546 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: I would say about starting your own product business endeavor 547 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: is that before you even start, you have to have 548 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: the strength of recovery. You have to have a recovery 549 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: plan because somebody on the team is going to do 550 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: something to you. They're either going to get a better 551 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: job and bail out, and they were your accountant, They're 552 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: going to steal your idea and they were your friend. 553 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: They're going to siphon money funds behind your back, and 554 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: they were your cousin. You got to know that one 555 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: of those things might happen. 556 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. 557 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: It definitely will. 558 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: And you have to have your self and esteem and 559 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: your self courage and your certainty intact. Yeah, like this 560 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: is mine and there's everything you're doing. You're doing to yourself, right, 561 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: you get it ex downy. Even if you took five 562 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars from me, I can't waste a second 563 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: on that because you did it to your self, right, 564 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to make that back. 565 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And more and more. 566 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: You have to have your spiritual life intact, and your 567 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: and your and your certainty about your product and yourself 568 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: and your idea intact, because all those things are going 569 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: to happen in some degree. 570 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be some fun. 571 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: And even if you just lose your your best friend 572 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 3: was your accountant and manage your books like nobody and 573 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: got you together. She or he might have now been 574 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: offered a better job or decided to have a family. 575 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: You want them to and you have to you have 576 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: to let them go. What do you think about doing 577 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: business with friends and family depends on the friends of them. 578 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: Some people are like, it's a hard no for me, 579 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: But you know, because I've heard a lot of Sometimes 580 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: if I want to remain friends with you, we just 581 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: can't work together like some people. But you're right, it 582 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: does depend on whoavor that. I think I'm pretty professional 583 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: in that way. I can. I can category like if. 584 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to cut an album, I would want my 585 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: cousin who's a producer, to be a part of that team, 586 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: right to tell me the truth to help me out 587 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: a boom. But yeah, even family are individuals and you 588 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: got to see DVID. Yet whose strength is going to 589 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: serve the endeavor. 590 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes people also look at you and be like, I 591 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: want a car has money, so it's no big deal, 592 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, investing, investing, investing, investing, Yes, 593 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: And people are also thinking like, I want to get 594 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: paid now. But if there's no money to get paid, 595 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: they have to realize something. 596 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: And you're not even paying yourself and then you get 597 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: paid last. Yeah, it's tough. It's really tough. I've covered 598 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: so much in such a quick amount of time. We 599 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: were onto something. I forgot what we were talking about. 600 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: I was talking about how do you know somebody will 601 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: be a good business partner? Like, what are some things 602 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: now that you can look at because of past? 603 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I would say I didn't remember. 604 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: I went. 605 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: I got into n YU early, like I went to 606 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 3: school at seventeen. I went to Tish School Arts. I 607 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: was an actor, right, I knew that I was coming. 608 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: You are an actor. 609 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: I am an actor, and so I didn't really invest 610 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: in the dal Jones. I really didn't know anything about money, 611 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: and I you know, I paid for that ignorance. You 612 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: could say later as an adult, but I think that 613 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: it's extreme. It's extremely important to understand the business. And 614 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: what I did is that I was surrounded myself with 615 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: people who did, and sometimes in the bad situation that 616 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: I told you about, I just if they would say, well, 617 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: you're your your skews are this and that. You know 618 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: the return and this quarter and that quarter, and they're 619 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: using a lot of different words about the revenue business, 620 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: write them down and learn them, because the only difference 621 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: between you and the person who's using that word is 622 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: a book. 623 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: You're learning a part. 624 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, now I can run a business, but I learned 625 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: the hard way because I defaulted on a lot of 626 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: things that I didn't look up myself, right, you know, 627 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: I was, I had I was. I was literally a 628 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: mom and a working actor, and my job in Boris's job, 629 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: kept food on the table and our lights on. So 630 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: when I had a business partner that knew all of 631 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: the ins and outs of business, I defaulted to them. 632 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. 633 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: Tell you right now, I can run any business that 634 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: you pred to me. Now I'm like like the queen 635 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: of the industry. But yeah, it was. It's a tough 636 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: pill to swallow. 637 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: And how did you scale it? I mean, you are 638 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: in amazing stores right now, and so many entrepreneurs want 639 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: to get to No. 640 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: Well, we came out of a lot of stores because 641 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: COVID happened and a lot of things are shutting down. 642 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: I did all of the dance just online, then in retail, 643 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: then in collaboration, and then out of retail. I did. 644 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: I was I've been in this really difficult but sweet 645 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: educational spot and still here and that. And I think 646 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: the through line with the ups and downs of the market, 647 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: I think the through line that has saved me and 648 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: preserved me as a business is that I listen to 649 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: my customer. I didn't overproduce. My socks are off the chain, 650 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: my leggings are off the chain, my sweat band. And 651 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: I listened to the I have white customers, black customers, young, 652 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: we in braids. I listened to every single kind of customer, men, 653 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: football players under their helmets, motorcycle gangs under their helmets. 654 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: And so that's why I was able to expand in 655 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: the right direction. 656 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm hearing pivot, You're not afraid to pivot. 657 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm not afraid to pivot. And you know, my white 658 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: girl volleyball outdoor athletes, volleyball players, they didn't want too 659 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: much constriction. They just wanted something to keep their hair 660 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 3: out of their face. That's my bandy. My wide bandy 661 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: is for you know, my sisters who are out outdoor athletes, 662 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: but they need a little bit more compression. They don't 663 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: want their braids in their face. They don't want their 664 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: bun in their face. 665 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: The wide bandy is my favorite. 666 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: The wide bandy is off the chain. Then you have 667 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: your serious gym athletes and they have their and my 668 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: male I got male customers, football players. My bandy that 669 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: has all the super absorbency that you tie. People were 670 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: wearing that under their motorcycle helmets, like motorcycle gangs, like 671 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, groups of. 672 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: You can't. 673 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say one thing that guys think about that. 674 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: We may not have that. Football players they're concerned about 675 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: their hairlines too, yes, right, and so they never want 676 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: anything that's pushing their hairline back. 677 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: No, but you get on top of your hair long 678 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: and it's really not the pushing that takes your hair over. No, 679 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: it's the it's the constant wiping of sweat. 680 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: Okay, but if you have a gym wrap, you don't 681 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. 682 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: You don't keep wiping, baby, it gets absorbed and you 683 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: keep your hair. 684 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: You know, where do you where do you see this like? 685 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: For you now that you are the entrepreneur businesswoman that 686 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: can run a business, where do you see this going? 687 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: If you had to say, this is how I went 688 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: this mapped out. 689 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: Wow, I've had a few offers for a buyout. 690 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, as we did building our businesses. 691 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: So you have an exit strategy. 692 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 3: But I did not exit. I did. It's me and 693 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: I was nervous that they would change because I make 694 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: an expensive product. I'm it's high quality, and I know 695 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: the minute I let it go the. 696 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: Corner ass produce this and cut some corners, and it 697 00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: cuts corners. 698 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: My name is still on it, or my name is 699 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: still associated with it. So I'm in it for the 700 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: long game right now. And I just feel like I'm 701 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: still very attached to my customer and I just want 702 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: to find more of them. 703 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: It's your passion, it's my passion. It'll tell me when 704 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: it's time. And right now, for some reason, it is 705 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: just getting the second wind of blowing up. And I 706 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: think it's a state of the world that people really 707 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: are having faith in themselves and in their health. 708 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: You know, health used to be this fancy vague word like, oh, 709 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm getting healthy and like you know, you do your yoga, 710 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: your whatever TV show workout. And I think now that 711 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: people are connecting their health with their money and their longevity, 712 00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 3: that gym rap has a new place. Yeah. 713 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. How has your work as an actor informed your 714 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: business work? 715 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: Mmm? 716 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm sitting here with a Bossy Media 717 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: reunion yes a day Empire fans, I think, yeah, yeah. 718 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 1: We had a great conversation. So shy, yes listen because 719 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: I was. 720 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: Like real shy when on television, like and Bossy Media. 721 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: Watching that. But we had a conversation when I filmed 722 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: that scene for Empire where you were talking about your 723 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: health and green juice and you know all of those 724 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: amazing things. So it's a real thing. It's not like 725 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: that's why I feel like people can equate with Jim 726 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: wrap with you because it is your lifestyle. Yeah, and 727 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: we trust that. 728 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I use it. I think I have one 729 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 3: of my purse. 730 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the next one. 731 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: We can order him to that we're because that's what 732 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna or the West Sox too. 733 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: And you know people who even aren't you know, our 734 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: natural sisters who aren't even worried about edges or anything 735 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 3: or blowouts. It is just another tool that makes you 736 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: feel like you're about to begin something for yourself. You know, 737 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: if you buy a cute jacket or cute leggings or 738 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: cute shoes, like having that gym wrap made by someone 739 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: who you know has your best interest in mind is 740 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: just another affirmation when you go for your walk. You know, 741 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: even if you're not trying to save your do or 742 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: keep your edges laid, you just want to feel like 743 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 3: this is the this is my time. It's a ritual. 744 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've been on this natural hair journey too, 745 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: tell me about that, because being an actress and always 746 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: having to have different hair styles. 747 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: Yes, well I went in. You know, I grew up 748 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: when relaxers were the thing, and luckily I stopped that. 749 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 3: And when I got into and I got into I 750 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: was living in New York and natural was everything. I 751 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: let my hair go back natural. But when I paid 752 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 3: for that blowout, I didn't do anything physical. 753 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: Oh, because it wouldn't. 754 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: I was my own customer. I knew that feeling of 755 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: like being on a budget as a young woman in 756 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: her twenties, like I got I got my hair dumb. 757 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: I want to go Nells tonight. I used to be 758 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: a co check girl at Nells. By the way, I 759 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody here. 760 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: Nelly, I saw you there. I know I saw you there. 761 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I saw you there. So Cochet girls will 762 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: always fly. 763 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: Okay, We're fly. 764 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: I saw you there in Prince in Nels. 765 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Prince was. It wasn't it Neils all the time? Yeah, 766 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy, a lot of people. But yeah, I just 767 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just felt like that I was 768 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: gonna be what was your question again? 769 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: Like, look, I forgot to I was just listening to you, 770 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: like you were talking about her natural hair, natural hair 771 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: journey and then yeah, well you understood what it was 772 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: like to be on a budget, spend your money on you. 773 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but it But by the time I was 774 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 3: a naturalista. Just like if you were going to go 775 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 3: for a run, you have your favorite zip up coat. 776 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: There's something about the gym rap that just solidifies the 777 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: moment and keeps me on track and keeps me motivated. 778 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: I also, in the last i'd say ten years, you know, 779 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 3: wigs are magnificent. Now shout out to Kairie, you know 780 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 3: who made up most of my wigs in La. Wigs 781 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 3: helped me grow my hair back right. 782 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 783 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been through all of the and I 784 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: still do. I like to dress up and change my look, 785 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: but the gym wrap stays consistent. 786 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: It's also, like I said, it's also good not to 787 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: get nasty. But when you're in the bedroom about to 788 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: get it in, yes, get to you know, don't mess 789 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: my hair up, right, it's not that kind of a show, 790 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: but it is a real thought. It's a real thought, 791 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: and you're total It is like, don't you spead all 792 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: of it? 793 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: Like? 794 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 2: Get it. 795 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: You might have to have borso on to confirm or deny, 796 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: but I may or may have not excuse me, enjoyed 797 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: my spouse with a gym wrap on as you and. 798 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: He probablyized you should, like, Nicole, we're about to get 799 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: it in, put that gym. 800 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: I was like, hold on, we are about to get 801 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: it in. Let me put my gymrap on. I want 802 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: to be cute tomorrow. 803 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: Gotta love it. It serves multiple purposes. Yes, that's bottom line. Well, listen, 804 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for having this conversation with us. Yes, 805 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: so people can get a gift if they follow. 806 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 3: Right, if you follow gym Wrap on Instagram, there's a 807 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 3: free gift. There's a lot of great things happening on 808 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: the site, new colors, new sales, everything, So just go 809 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: to com check it out. Give me a shout out 810 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: on Instagram. But if you follow Jim rap I got 811 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: a gift for you. 812 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: Last question, I'm doing this future self program with Dan 813 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: Sullivan and it's not looking back, looking forward. So in 814 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: five years from now, what is that person going to 815 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: thank you for doing right now? 816 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: My customer or me. 817 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: You five years from now, what's Nicole and five years 818 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: from now going to thank Nicole today for what she's 819 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: doing right now? 820 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: M I would say she's future. Nicole is going to 821 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: thank me for pushing through this next chapter of being 822 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: a parent to young adults and being there for them. 823 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 3: And I think she is also going to thank me 824 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: for not giving up on the gym Wrap as an 825 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 3: idea and as a way of serving her people. 826 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 2: Makes me cry. She's also gonna thank you for hanging 827 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: out with Angela and Stacy. 828 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: We should do a little run club with the gym 829 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Wraps or something like. She would love that fun. Yeah, 830 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: I think we should do something like that. 831 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: See you always bring this up at the end and 832 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 3: then we don't. I don't hear from you. 833 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: You have in the midst here. 834 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm here today and. 835 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: The weather's getting better. 836 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And we are doing a little 837 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: collab with the Soca Run Club. 838 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: Okay, and you know that I'm lat. 839 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: Okay and listen. But I know you and outrun a 840 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: saf So I'm just gonna put that out there now. 841 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: But it's okay. If you have to. 842 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: Walk, we're gonna get you a fifteen push ups. 843 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna, as I call it, a wog, a walk jog, 844 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: you know, walking the jog. If you whatever you gotta do. 845 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: You say, can we get t. 846 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 3: Shirts for women? Women? 847 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 2: Go wogg your gym. 848 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: Rats. 849 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: Nobody has been drinking here. I promise you this. 850 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: Drinks after the wa okay period, wogg a happy hour, 851 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: all right. 852 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: Wealth Wednesdays everybody followed Jim Rap. Everybody watched something by 853 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 2: beloved Nicole has ever done. Everybody give her a shout 854 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: out for being a mom entrepreneur, everything and Angela. We 855 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: are celebrating women Women's history months. Happy Wealth Wednesdays. Everybody