1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Ye 2 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Yo ho Ho Ridiculous Historians. I'm sorry, I just had 3 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to get it out of my system. All right, Well, 4 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm ben. This is part two of our exploration of 5 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: the little known story of Jamaica and Jewish pirates. Hi, 6 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm nol bent. Was that just a drawn out yo? 7 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Or were those meant to be ho ho hoes in between? 8 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: As a as a a piratey ref? Yeah? Priate ref? 9 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Did it? Did it sound like a yo or yo 10 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: ho ho? I just was making sure that we're on 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: this zoom and then I was a little bit it 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: dragged it out, did that thing where it digitally kind 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: of stretched it so on my end it is kind 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: of light. Sounded like you were saying, yo, ridiculous historians 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. But no, I I kid, 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, today you know, we we we did. We 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: did this intentional two parter and uh, I know the 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: first one seemed a little on the short side, but 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: we felt like it was a good kind of primer 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: to now get you into some like really cool dives 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: into some of the most notable Jewish pirates and privateers 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: from throughout history. So what do you say we we 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: we jump right in with signon yes a k a. 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: The Great Jew. Yes, let's walk the plank of the 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: podcast with the help of our super producer, Casey Pegrov, 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, brandishing a scimitar behind us forcing us along. 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: You're right, this guy was known as the Great Jew. Also, 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: as we go through this episode, please, if you're played 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: along at home, let us know what your ideal pirate 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: nickname would be. I think that's the coolest thing. If 31 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: you're a pirate, you get a nickname. Right. We've talked 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: about cool professional nicknames in the past, but yes, had 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: the Moniker the Great Jew. He and his family, like 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: so many of the people you mentioned in part one 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: of the show, they fled the Spanish Inquisition in the 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: early fifteen hundreds, and first they went to Turkey and 37 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: then it was in modern day Ismir Turkey where sNaN 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: became the right hand man of a fellow named Hayredden Barbarossa, 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: one of the most famed pirates of all time. Barbarosa 40 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: would eventually go on to become a sultan and a 41 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: commander in the Ottoman Navy. And uh, these guys had 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: their own interesting take on the pirate flag. Uh, they 43 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: sure did. And and just one quick little little snippet 44 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: of backstory on Sanan Um he was born to Sephardic 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Jewish parents who fled Spain and then look like you said, 46 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: located into the auto An Empire. Um. But I just 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I thought the distinction of Sephardic Jews was interesting because 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't intimately familiar with this tradition, and it specifically 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: refers to descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and 50 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Portugal uh, from the later centuries of the Roman Empire 51 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: until they were essentially forced out um of those countries 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: in the last decades of the fifteenth century. And that's 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: from Britannica. They're just to just to give credit where 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: credit is due. But this is something I wasn't wasn't 55 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: intimately familiar with, so always interesting to learn about new 56 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of cultural offshoots. But yes, to your point, Ben, 57 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: about their kind of interesting spin on the Jolly Roger, 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: which we we heard from you last episode, did have 59 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: some variations. Um. There's had a six sided star very 60 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: much seeming to be a reference to the Jewish Star 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: of David in place of that smiling skelets boy, and 62 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: they were a dynamic duo on the high seas. Probably 63 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: their biggest victory came in fifteen thirty eight during something 64 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: called the Battle of Provezza, right off the coast of Greece. 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Ottoman forces led by these two guys defeated an entire 66 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: flotilla of armed ships from Christian countries that have been 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of assembled or justice leagued by Pope Paul the Third. 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: This victory, there's ensured that the Ottoman forces would dominate 69 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean for generations to come. And this is where 70 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: sNaN earned his nickname, his street name, the Great Jew. 71 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: You know who gave it to him, his enemies on 72 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the Spanish side of the conflict. Totally, Yeah, it makes 73 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: me think of It makes me think of the character 74 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: and inglorious bastards um, the one with the baseball bat. 75 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's bashing and heads all the time. He 76 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: gets his nickname from his enemies too. It was the 77 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: Ared you right, because he was known for bashing head stuff. 78 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: You always know, if you get a pretty cool sound 79 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: of nickname from your enemies, you're doing something right. You're 80 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: striking fear into the right hearts, you know what I mean? 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: I still think that, you know, the Spanish forces at 82 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: this point, we're like, why not throw in some hate speech. Yeah, well, 83 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: while we're here, let's just also being sold. I don't 84 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: know what they you know what I mean, I don't 85 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: know how they meant it to be received, but I 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: agree with you it is a very badass nickname. Uh. 87 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: People were so intimidated by this guy or looked up 88 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: to him, depending on where they stood in the conflict, 89 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: that they began spreading rumors of his sorceress powers. He 90 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: was so good at navigating the seas that people started 91 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: saying he had to use magic to do it. They're like, 92 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: there's only one way. I love picturing this conversation. It's 93 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of other sailors meeting up and they're like, look, guys, 94 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: we know we're just mainly winging it out there. How 95 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: does sNaN know where he's going all the time? And 96 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: someone else that I think it's magic, bro, And they 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, because that was a sufficient explanation of 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: things at the time. Well, and if I'm not mistaken, 99 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: wasn't part of that kind of anti Semitic attitude and 100 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: almost fear of Jews as having some kinds of being 101 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: like witches or something, or as as possessing some kind 102 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: of magical powers. You often hear kind of outdated jokes 103 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: about even like you know, the of that that fantastic 104 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: film Jojo Rabbit by Taiko A Titi, there's a character. 105 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil anything about the movie, but 106 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: there's a child who refers to Jews as being like 107 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: having the ability to hypnotize you or something like that, 108 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: like vampire rules or whatever. And I think that sort 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: of attitude about like they they're using witchcraft to do 110 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: this navigation was probably a pretty widespread idea and another 111 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: way to further dehumanize people when you really think it 112 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: all the way through. So in ristinely enough, you can 113 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: read more about Barbarossa and Snan's adventures in the five 114 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: volume book of Barbarossa's memoirs that he dictated to Sonan. 115 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: They currently reside in the Istanbul University Library. So this 116 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: guy is having an adventure that most people don't know about, 117 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: which is crazy. I would love to see the film, 118 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: which I know I've been saying, and like every episode 119 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: we do, but so many of these stories are just perfect. 120 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: They're so cinematic. Okay, we can't spend all our time 121 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: on this guy though. Uh what say we move on 122 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: to another great nickname, the pirate rabbi. Yeah, Samuel Palash 123 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: or Palachet. I'm gonna go with Blash. What do you 124 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: think We're probably gonna get corrected either way. Let's just 125 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: stick with it. Uh. Yeah, this guy wasn't just your 126 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: run of the mill son of Abraham Um. He was 127 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: actually a rabbi. His name was a Rabbi Schmool Palacci, 128 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: and he is said to have taken part in some 129 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: pretty serious pirate raids against Spanish and Dutch ships, which 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: would have been under the privateer side. Isn't that right then? Yeah? Yeah, 131 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: he was working for the Dutch government, and then he 132 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: was also working for the Sultan of Barbary and Morocco. 133 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: He was instrumental in one of the very first treaties 134 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: between European and Middle Eastern powers, that's the six Agreement 135 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: that guaranteed peace between Morocco and the Netherlands. So despite 136 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: the fact that he had trained as a rabbi, he 137 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: obviously felt more called to this life on the high 138 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: seas as a privateer, but he was still a man 139 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: of faith he was still pious, and one of the 140 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: rules on his ship was that the members of the 141 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: crew had to donate a tenth of their loot. I'll 142 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: just say, a cut of their booty to charity. Yeah, 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: lean into it, dude, I love it. And he also 144 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: kept things kosher on his ship, which, if you think 145 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: about that, that seems like at some point it could 146 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: get a little to right. I mean, you know, it 147 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: takes a lot of effort, uh, and certainly you don't 148 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: have the luxury of having access to like all the 149 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: things when you're you know, uh far far away at sea. 150 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: But that whole aspect of like donating to charity, that's 151 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: the real kicker for me. That's fantastic. So in sixteen fourteen, 152 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Morocco and Spain went to war with each other, and 153 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: Plash was responsible for heading up a small Moroccan fleet 154 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: UM that was destined for a conflict with Spanish ships 155 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: and actually was able to be successful and capture them. Um. 156 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: He was though arrested by the Spanish ambassador and then 157 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: tried under Spanish law for piracy. There's a letter to 158 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: a Dudley Carlton, who is the British ambassador to Venice. 159 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Then um. And he summed up the life of this 160 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Jewish pirate thusly. And this comes from a I s 161 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: h dot Com. I'm not familiar with the words, so 162 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: forgive me if I'm I had rather spell it than 163 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: mispronounced it. Which is a really great resource for Jewish 164 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,359 Speaker 1: culture and heritage and all kinds of history and cool storytelling. 165 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Highly recommended. Um. But eight little known facts about Jewish pirates. Um. 166 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: And they have this quote from Dudley Carlton. And keep 167 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: in mind that maybe some of this language might sound 168 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: a little charged. I'm just reading it from historical record. Quote. 169 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: Here is a jew pirate arrested that brought three prizes 170 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: of Spaniards into Plymouth. He shall likely pass out of 171 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: here well enough, for he has league and license under 172 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: the King's hand for his free egress and regress, which 173 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: was not believed until he made proof of it. Okay, yeah, 174 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: so eventually they had They realized he is approved by 175 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the highest authority to basically do what he wants. Right. 176 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: It's it's imagine, you know, we talked about it sometimes 177 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: in spy novels, right, the idea of a license to kill. 178 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: But imagine if there was a country where you literally 179 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: got a printed letter that you can whip out that 180 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: says something like, uh, superproducer Casey Pegram has the express 181 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: authorization of the US government to do whatever he wants. 182 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Let me go. Uh. I would love that. I would 183 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I would probably get into some really poorly thought out 184 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: high jinks, you know what I mean. Uh. Plash was acquitted. 185 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: He was set free. When he passed away in sixteen sixteen, 186 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: he was given a heroes funeral. Every single member of 187 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: the Jewish community in Amsterdam got together and marched in 188 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: his funeral procession. And they were not alone. They were 189 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: joined by royalty, and they were joined by elders of 190 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the city itself. So this person had had an immense 191 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: amount of support and recognition in his time. Yeah, for sure. 192 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: And like we said, bust another myth about pirates. And 193 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: this guy seemed like a pretty benevolent pirate at the 194 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: end of the day and had a bit of a 195 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: moral code, which I appreciate because you think of pirates 196 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: is just you know, being wanton and uh and not 197 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: following the rules. And this guy was definitely a different 198 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: spin on that. All right, let's move on to another 199 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: uh amazing nickname. I'm not a nickname, but like a 200 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: gang name. Uh this was This one's about sub at 201 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: all and the Brotherhood of the Black Flag, which sounds 202 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: like definitely a Black Flag tribute band. Right, I'm not 203 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: alone in that, Okay. So this guy was a Jewish 204 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: physician living in the sixteenth century, an educated man, and 205 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: he was an explorer of what would now known as 206 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: the America's He's also credited by some with introducing the 207 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: potato to Europeans, which nice one, man. I've been thinking 208 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: about this during quarantine. You know what I miss? I 209 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: miss having fries, French fries that I didn't cook. Yeah, 210 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: so you haven't really been doing much. You haven't done 211 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: like a drive theory. Have him been to a Chick 212 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: fil A or any any of that? Uh? Yeah, I 213 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: went to I went to a drive through once, but 214 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: usually usually I've been staying in and cooking. It's a 215 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: little healthier, it's something to do. I've been I've been 216 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: cooking some weird stuff. You guys know. I know. And 217 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about You're gonna have a seafood uh extravaganza 218 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: with your little Japanese grill after we get done recording. 219 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: And I think you've inspired me to go a seafood 220 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: route myself for dinner and my mom visiting. But well, 221 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: speaking of the sea and food, uh, we we were 222 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: talking about potatoes a minute ago, um, and now we're 223 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: talking back about Subatol and the Brotherhood of the Black Flag. 224 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: He formed a bond uh some something of an alliance 225 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: with another, their famous explorer's son, Um who realized as 226 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: well that the profession of piracy was a pretty good racket, 227 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: and that was the son of Sir Francis Drake Henry Um. 228 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: So the two became inseparable and they started this organization, 229 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that known as the 230 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Brotherhood of the Black Flag. It was absolutely a band 231 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: of pirates that was hell bent on attacking as many 232 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Spanish ships as they could right off of the coast 233 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: of a place that I think you have very recently 234 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: been a modern day Chile. Yeah, that's right. They are 235 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: said to have buried six thousand pounds of Spanish gold 236 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: and an even larger amount of silver near harbor In 237 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: in Chile. At this time, no one has found that 238 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: buried treasure. However, treasure hunters have found some documents that 239 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: were partially written in Hebrew that they believe may have 240 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: been written by Subatol himself. So, and it's quite possible 241 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: that someone off the coast of Chile may one day 242 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: find the hidden treasure of the Brotherhood of the Black Flag. 243 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely ben and and just for reference, if you wanted 244 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: to check out this area in Chile today, if you 245 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: ever find yourself back on a plane and maybe you 246 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: live there, it is near the guy a Can Harbor today. 247 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: And that's spelled g u a y a c a N. 248 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I think guy I Can. It's probably a decent pronunciation there. 249 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: But let us know who do we have next? Been? Ah, 250 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: here we go. We've been, We've been setting up for this. 251 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: We talked about heist, talked about pirates. Now we're talking 252 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: about a pirate heist. It comes to us courtesy of 253 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Mosha Cohen Anarkis or Moses going Enriquees, depending on where 254 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: you go with the translation. He was one of the 255 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: most famous of the revenge seeking Jewish privateers and pirates. 256 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: He started his life living in secrecy as a Jewish 257 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: person because he grew up under the Inquisition in Portugal. 258 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: He was at a time one of the most well 259 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: known prominent successful merchants in the capital of Portugal, Lisbon, 260 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: and then he was discovered to be Jewish and to 261 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: be practicing his faith. In sixteen o five, he and 262 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty other people were publicly tortured and 263 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: this changed Cohen's life. He decided that he was going 264 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: to work against Spain and Portugal and fight against the 265 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: injustices of the Inquisition. First he had to escape. Yeah, 266 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: that'll certainly do it, um. And he did that thing. 267 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: He got out of Amsterdam, and he pretty quickly seemed 268 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: to find his way into the good grace is of 269 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the Dutch and he became essentially a spy for them, 270 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: for the Dutch Navy, and he settled in Jamaica, which 271 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: was already starting to become this kind of safe haven 272 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: for these Jewish expats uh. And he worked with the 273 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Dutch on behalf of the Netherlands to attack these Spanish 274 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: vessels UM and just kind of be a thorn in 275 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: the side of these UH colonial ambitions to take over 276 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: the New World, because everyone was vying for a lot 277 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: of that real estate. Right, Yeah, that's right. This is 278 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: part of a massive land and resource grab on the 279 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: part of the European powers. Cohen even teams up with 280 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: one of the most feared pirates of the day, a 281 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: man named Sir Henry Morgan. And Sir Henry Morgan is 282 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: a dangerous, dangerous dude, right. But this land grab, this 283 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: age of expansion, panic that so many European powers going through, 284 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: uh makes them bend the rules a little bit more. 285 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: And so the Dutch and British governments, actually they're not 286 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: very loud about it, but they back up Cohen and 287 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Henry Morgan. Would that be Captain Henry Morgan of the 288 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: of the Rum fame, the Lieutenant Governor of Jamaica. Yeah, 289 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: I remember, you know Captain Morgan's surely it's named after him, right, Yeah, 290 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean what would what would imagine? Uh? Captain Morgan 291 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: was a Sir Henry Morgan, I guess is a Welsh privateer, 292 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: and it was a plantation owner who eventually became the 293 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor of Jamaica. So he was in the halls 294 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: of power. But to be clear that what I'm talking 295 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: about when I say the quiet support is the Dutch 296 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: and British government's quietly supporting Cohen in his partnership. Sir 297 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: Henry Morgan was already kind of like above the reproach 298 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because he was so powerful 299 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: and just for the record, confirmed cap To Morgan Rum 300 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: is named after Sir Henry Morgan for his adventures in 301 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the in the Caribbean. Yeah, I mean it makes sense 302 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: to me, right, and drink responsibly, and you too can 303 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: live like the Captain. You know, I wonder why they 304 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: never had a tagline like promote yourself or even use 305 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: that I'm the captain now meme. That would be great, 306 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: That would be good. You know what I was thinking 307 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: in my mind, I was confusing the uh, the Captain 308 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: Morgan's tagline with the Captain Crunch tagline, which I think 309 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: is superior. Is you and the Captain make it happen? Uh? 310 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, and drink responsibly and eat your 311 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: sugary cereals responsibly. Kids, Right, eat your breakfast candy responsibly. 312 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: That still baffles me. So here let's fast forward to 313 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: the heist. We promise you a heist. There is a 314 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: heist e vault in Cohen helps the Dutch West India 315 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Company pool one of the most profitable sea heist in 316 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: the entire history of piracy. They steal like over a 317 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of gold, and silver from a Spanish 318 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: fleet off the coast of Cuba. And when we say 319 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: a billion, that's US roughly adjusting for how much this 320 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: gold and silver would be worth in today's age. But 321 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: it's still it's still kind of tough to get a 322 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: super accurate calculation there. Just it was a lot of money. 323 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: But wait a minute, Ben, I thought the Dutch West 324 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: India Company was a legitimate business. What do they do 325 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: in pulling off heists? Dutch West India Company. Well, they okay, 326 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: specifically Cohen helped Admiral Pete Hind And so if we're 327 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna be all unfun and factual about it, the Dutch 328 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: West India Company was not. It's probably not officially sanctioning 329 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: this heist, but without doing a whole episode about them. Yet, 330 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past a man. They are a 331 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: very bad group. Oh but no, no, no, there's a 332 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: thing and I used you look up dust West India 333 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: and Britannica. Dutch West India Company, It says, using booty 334 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: acquired from the capture by the Dutch seaman Pietre Heine 335 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: of part of a Spanish treasure fleet, the company challenged 336 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: the Portuguese hold on Brazil beginning in six thirty and 337 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: attained his greatest success during the administration of Count John Maurice. 338 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: So they definitely ran on it, and they're definitely sanctioning it. Yeah, 339 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: we should do at some point a story about some 340 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: of the many crimes of those organizations, because even if 341 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you know a lot about them, you might not know 342 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: the whole terrible story. So, not long after successfully pulling 343 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: off this massive sea heist, Cohen starts his own pirate 344 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: island because off the coast of Brazil you mentioned earlier. 345 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: And then once Portugal takes over the area, Cohen becomes 346 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: this adviser to Captain Henry Morgan drink responsibly indeed, and 347 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: then know Cohen does finally kind of retire. I guess 348 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: uh he's getting up there in years, Um, Sir Henry 349 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: Morgan becomes the Lieutenant Governor of Jamaica, uh and actually 350 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: pardoned Cohen. So Cohen was living in the clear um 351 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: and he stayed in Jamaica until he passed away, living 352 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: the life of a civilian, you know, but having had 353 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: some hell of adventures. The pirates life was certainly for him. 354 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: But um, he knew when to say when, just like 355 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: you should when you're drinking Captain Morgan's rum. That's right, 356 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: and that's a lovely pirate stereotype to bust. Not all 357 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: pirates died on the high seas in you know, a 358 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: wave of treasure and blood falling to cannon fire. Some 359 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: people were actually able to retire, which I thought was 360 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: pretty cool. And now I think we have time for 361 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: one more. Someone who's been called occasionally the most famous 362 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Jewish pirate Jean Lafitte. He was born in France in 363 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: about sevent I had no idea John Lafitte was was 364 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: jew spirate. UM certainly heard of him from Lafitte's blacksmith 365 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: shop in uh in, New Orleans, which I believe is 366 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the oldest bar still an operation there or possibly in 367 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the United States. It's it's been around for a very 368 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: very long time, um, and it's a pretty fun little 369 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: dive bar to check out. They have really good hurricanes. 370 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, John Lafitte was born in France about seventeen eighty, 371 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: like you said, And there is a pretty controversial work 372 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: called The Journal of Jean Lafitte. Controversial in it may 373 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: or may not have been written by him, um, or 374 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: it could be some kind of forgery. It could be 375 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: it could have been written by a third party. Um. 376 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: He does claim that his mother's father was a Spanish 377 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Jew who was subjected to torture under the Inquisition UM And, 378 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: much like some of the previous entries in this list, 379 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: seeing that happened to his family created a lifelong hatred 380 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: for Spain um and for obviously the Spanish Inquisition UM 381 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: and decided that he wanted to wreck their shop man 382 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: like just absolutely be another thorn in the side of 383 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: the Spanish Armada, right um. So he wanted to mess 384 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: with their money because they have these holdings in the 385 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: New World um and that's where the Inquisition was absolutely 386 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: like burning their way across the lamb. So Jehan moves 387 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: to New Orleans to escape the Inquisition. He doesn't move alone. 388 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: He brings his brother Pierre, and together they found a 389 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: blacksmith shop and they do pretty well. But there's a 390 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: conspiracy of foot because they have a second secret profession. 391 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: They have commissions from the Republic of Cartagena to intercept 392 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: Spanish boats. So while they're operating their blacksmith shop, they 393 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: carry on this secluded interdiction career from a secluded colony 394 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: in Barrataria Bay off the coast of New Orleans. That's cool. 395 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: Secret pirates. It is super cool. And from that same 396 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: article from j host dot com Jewish Pirates of the Caribbean, 397 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: they have a really great quote from a professor by 398 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: the name of Edward Bernard Glick who wrote an article 399 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: called Lafitte's Jewish Origins in the Jerusalem Post back in 400 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, and he says Lafitte was also 401 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: a Sephardic jew along with his first wife, and Glick 402 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: points out that not only did Lafit run a single 403 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: pirate ship, he had a whole fleet of them that 404 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: he kind of ran like kind of like a mob 405 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: boss almost from his blacksmith shop, which also was a 406 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: site for fencing stolen pirate loot. That's my favorite part, 407 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: by the way. You know, you come for the horse 408 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: shoes and then you stay for the emeralds, right or 409 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: maybe like a cursed skull. I don't know. I don't 410 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: know what kind of stuff they're fencing in this pirate shop. 411 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: So years before the Battle of New Orleans and before 412 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the War of eighteen twelve, he's already got beef with 413 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: the authorities, and there's there's very strange flex, a weird 414 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: flex that he does. I bet Myles and Jack would 415 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: love this. The Louisiana Governor, William C. C Clayboard place 416 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: as a reward of five hundred dollars on the fite's head. 417 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: And what does he do. He retaliates by putting a 418 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: five thousand dollar bounty on the head of the governor. 419 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: He's telling the governor of Louisiana stopped playing with broke 420 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: boy rules. You know what I mean? Seriously, Holy cow, 421 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: that is a that I wouldn't say that's a weird 422 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: flex as much as it's just a power move of 423 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: epic proportions. Um, so, okay, we we know where this 424 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: guy stands. But then, in the War of eighteen twelve, Lafitte, 425 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: in his capacity as a spy, actually warned American troops 426 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: of the British invasion. But not like the Beatles one. 427 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: This is like, you know, a military invasion. And he 428 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: offered to help out Andrew Jackson, who is the general 429 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: defending New Orleans at the time, with some of his 430 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: top guys from his pirate crew up and he said, 431 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: we'll do this, will help you out Andy, which I'm 432 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: sure I'm sure. He called Andrew Jackson. Andy, right, he said, 433 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: we'll help you out. Andy. All you have to do 434 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: is give us a full pardon for anything we ever 435 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: may have or may have not done. Deal. And Andy says, yeah, deal. 436 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: The pirate gang does a great job Jackson. In fact, 437 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: later in life, Jackson goes on to call la Fit 438 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: one of the ablest men of the Battle of New Orleans. 439 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: So it sounds like he earned that pardon. And you know, 440 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: he uh, he takes it easy for a little while. 441 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: But a couple of years after this massive, you know, 442 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: hero moment, he starts back up into pirating, piracy, pirating. 443 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with pirate pirating. It's just fun to say. Um. 444 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: But he moves shop to Galveston, Texas and brings close 445 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: to a thousand buccaneers along with them, and he established 446 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: like a pirate community that he referred to is his kingdom. 447 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Uh named campesh on the Barrier Island of Galveston's um, 448 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: which is a thing. It's on the Gulf coast. I 449 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't realize Galveston was an island, and they lived under 450 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: the rule of at the time, the Nueva Espana Colony 451 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: of Mexico. And he partnered up with a Portuguese jew 452 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: um by the name of Jao Huau de la Porta, 453 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: and some of their biggest named you know, heist buds 454 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: were folks like Jim Bowie of the Alamo fame um 455 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: also known for the knife that was named after him. 456 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: So until he passed away in eighteen twenty five, Jean 457 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: Lafitte remained one of the most feared pirates of the 458 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Spanish Main, and the Spanish Main is the eastern coast 459 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: of Spain's possessions in the New World. At this time. 460 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: You can see traces of his story everywhere in New Orleans. 461 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: There there's a national park named after him. Uh. The 462 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: author we mentioned part one of this series even posits 463 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: that this man was the inspiration for Johnny Depp in 464 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. But I still I 465 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: still feel like the inspiration is Um, that guy from 466 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones, not Keith Stewart. Keith Stewart is a 467 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: guy I went to high school with. And if you're 468 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: hearing this, Keith, I hope you're well the other Keith, yes, 469 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: and he was. He'd be played his father in one 470 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: of the movies. I think that was a nod to 471 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: how he definitely was. I think he's probably inspired like 472 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: maybe Lafitte was part of the historical president, but certainly 473 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: his mannerisms were all Keith Richards. Yeah. So maybe in 474 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: that point we're talking about the creative uh inspiration of 475 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: the screenwriters for the script writers and the creative inspiration 476 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: of the actors. But there, there you have it, folks. 477 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: For a long long time time, the stories of these 478 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: privateers and pirates were rarely explored in the history books, 479 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and that began to change in the last decade or 480 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: so when historical graveyards were unearthed in the Caribbean. That revealed, 481 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, the extent of the Jewish population that had 482 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: gone their seeking safety from the Inquisition, and also helped 483 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: us understand that several individuals in these communities were indeed pirates. Yeah, 484 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: that's right. And back in two thousand seven, the Caribbean 485 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Volunteer Expeditions, which is a nonprofit cultural preservation society in 486 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: the Caribbean, has started to take a lot of steps 487 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: and compiling a lot of these research materials and artifacts 488 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: and inventorying these grave sites like you mentioned, ben Um 489 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: to really shine a light on this mainly you know, 490 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: kind of lost part of history transcribing epitaphs and is 491 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: creating a wealth of information that folks that are interested, 492 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: that want to find out more about the the Jewish 493 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: pirate community um that was forced out of Spain largely 494 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: due to fear of being persecuted and tortured by the 495 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: absolutely horrific Spanish Inquisition. I say this with sincerity. What 496 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: an astonishing story, and how fortunate we are to be 497 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: able to learn more about it in the present day. 498 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm pretty happy that we made this 499 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: two parter. Oh I am too, And I did want 500 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: when I had one last little thing that that I 501 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: think it's super interesting and I always wondered about because 502 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: of this master Let's let's not forget like this was 503 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: about uh Jamaica specifically about about these Jewish pirates that 504 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: got their start after immigrating to Jamaica Um in addition 505 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: to other places. But that was sort of the big 506 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: one in terms of like how much of the you know, 507 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: parliament they made up in terms of the seats um 508 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: and that has a lot to do with maintains a 509 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: big part of the heritage of Jamaica Um, which you 510 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: think of oftentimes intertwined with Rastafarianism UM and as it 511 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: turns out, the concept of Rastafarianism has a lot of 512 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: connections with Judaism. Their messiah UH, the Ethiopian emperor highly Selassie, 513 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: was said to have been descended from King Solomon UM 514 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: and obviously one of their most powerful symbols in Rastafarianism 515 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: is the Lion of Judah. And Rastafarians also keep kosher. Yeah, 516 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: there are so many misconceptions about Rastafarianism here in the West, 517 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: it probably deserves its own episode as well. There is 518 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: fascinating history there. Of course, piracy is not over. Piracy 519 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: continues in different parts of the world. Right. You've probably 520 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: seen stories about piracy in the Middle East or off 521 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: the coast of Somalia recently. But this age of piracy 522 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: seems to be unique because of the way it meshed 523 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: and involved in concert with the age of maritime expansion 524 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: from Europe and the UH, one of the many waves 525 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: of anti Semitism that Europe experienced at the time. So 526 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: Tricorn hats off to you pirates of history. I don't know, 527 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm in a weird spot with this because I don't 528 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: want to completely condone the you know, the behaviors of 529 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: these people, which at times had to be brutal and 530 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: violent and bloody. But also I I love the idea 531 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: of fighting back against this institutional evil of the Inquisition, 532 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you've got to give 533 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: them props for their open mindedness culturally and allowing folks 534 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: that were basically cast off, if not outright, you know, 535 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: hunted by by certain individuals in power and bringing them 536 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: into their ranks and not judging them for their heritage 537 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. So that's pretty cool and 538 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: very punk rock if you ask me. Yeah, oh oh, 539 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: that's great. That's that's a great way to to segue 540 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: into this Noel Casey, we would be doing a terrible 541 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: job if we didn't include some of the cool parts 542 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: of real life pirate code. Uh. This comes to us 543 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: from Mark Mancini over at Mental Flaws. Some of these 544 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: rules might surprise you. So we talked about voting, mentioned voting. 545 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Uh. They also said you can't steal from 546 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: other pirates. I guess honor among thieves. Oddly enough, they 547 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: said nobody can gamble, which which feels like a weird 548 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: vice to isolate, but I guess it was bad for 549 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: life on the ship. Uh. Everybody had a bedtime that 550 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: a curfew lights out, you get a spanking. Yeah. Uh. 551 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: They also had to uh also had to always be 552 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: ready to tangle. Each man must keep his peace, cutlass, 553 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: and pistols at all times, clean and ready for action. 554 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: I just love this piece cutless and pistols. Yeah. I 555 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: like how they say piece cutless and pistols because you 556 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: gotta wonder what's the piece? What's the piece? I thought 557 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: the piece was the pistol. Yeah. Maybe it's like a 558 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: bolow or or a side piece, maybe like a like 559 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: a little when you keep in your pirate boot, yeah, 560 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: or like a mace, or like a frisbee. I don't know. 561 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Tell us what you think the best pirate piece would be. Uh. 562 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: They also did it never bring your date home? Right. 563 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: Most of these things did not have instant fatal punishment. 564 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: But if you brought a person of any sort with 565 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: you for romantic purposes onto the ship, you would be 566 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: put to death. Yeah, a lot of a lot of 567 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: things punishable by death or maroon ng, which I guess 568 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: this means abandoning you on a desert island with nothing 569 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: but maybe a mixed tape of your favorite songs, and 570 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: one last one I left to point to because it 571 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: is kind of progressive. Is the way that Mental Flaws 572 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: puts it is lose a lem, get workers comp And 573 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: here's the code. Every man who shall become a cripple 574 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: or lose a limb in the service shall have eight 575 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: hundred pieces of eight from the common stock and for 576 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: lesser hurts proportionately. And pieces of eight being a very 577 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: popular and widely accepted Spanish coin. Um that I think 578 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: we're even American legal tender until eighteen fifty seven. What 579 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: a ride, oh man. I you know, we busted a 580 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: lot of stereotypes here, uh, and we talked a little 581 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: bit about the complex cultural situation. But still, you know, 582 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: like the six or seven year old in me is 583 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: so into the idea of just hopping on a boat 584 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: and living life on the high seas. I don't think 585 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: I would want to do it with a crew though. 586 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: I want to be like Kevin Costner in water World 587 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: and just have like my own thing in a system. 588 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: You guys remember water World. That's one of Casey's favorite films, 589 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: right yeah. Jean Triple Horn turned in a Tour de 590 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: forest performance as to Dennis Hopper and I hear the 591 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: ride at the Universal is pretty cool. Um, but wait 592 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: a minute, Ben, what how would you feel about like 593 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: more of like a like a Tom Hanks and castaway 594 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of situation. What would be your unanimate object that 595 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you would anthropomorphize? M m. That wouldn't be a computer 596 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: with a satellite link. Uh. You know that's a good question. 597 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: If you had to anthropomorphize something on a desert island, 598 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: I would try. I would try to make like a 599 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: really cool sculpture or something, you know, leave a mark 600 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: after I'm done. As far as companionship, I'd probably see 601 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: if I could befriend some of the native fauna, you 602 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and have like a sidekick bird 603 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: or uh, mammal of some sort, because I don't know, 604 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: if you could be a friend of fish. Perhaps there 605 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: would be corvidds on this island where you where you 606 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: wind up. I know you have a real kinship with 607 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: those little guys. Uh what about you know? What would 608 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: you uh, what would you do a while away the 609 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: lonely days on a desert islands. I'm gonna go with coconut, 610 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: just because it's obvious. You know, you can draw a 611 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: little face on it. I mean, I might not have 612 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: a volleyball. Volleyball seemed good because it's like sort of, 613 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, squishy, you can put your head on it, 614 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a pillow, but then it would get dirty. 615 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I'm gonna stick with coconuts. Yeah, 616 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: a tiger. I want a tiger. I wouldn't be friends 617 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: with the tiger. Be friends of the tiger that would 618 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: let you ride around on his back and potentially also 619 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: talk to you once you started going mad and hallucinating, 620 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: and then eventually it would also probably eat you. Um, 621 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: but dared to dream, is what I say about all 622 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: of this stuff, as did many of these incredible pirty characters. UM. 623 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: Huge thanks to super producer Casey Pegraham for being here 624 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: and through all of this, through this intentional two parter, 625 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: even though god it could have been a three partner man. 626 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: The length of these are way out of whack, But 627 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? UM, gotta get a vacation 628 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: at some point. Huge thanks to Alex Williams told posted 629 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: our theme, Christopher Haciotes Here in Spirit, John Strickland the Quister, 630 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Thanks to Gabe Lousia. Thanks to the authors, mentioned in 631 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: today's episode, Who doesn't love to learn more about pirates? Uh, 632 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: thanks of course to Eve's Jeff Coat and a behind 633 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: the scenes peak here folks. Uh, this is one of 634 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: the last things we're recording before some of us hit 635 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: the figurative road for a week's vacation. UH. And this 636 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: was a little bit uphill. We've got I've got some 637 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: gremlins on the wings of the internet connection. So I 638 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: want to thank you Casey and you know for bearing 639 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: with me as we were sorting out some of the 640 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: technical difficulties. Uh, and all the various strange sounds that 641 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: happened today. All good man, All good. It was a pleasure. 642 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: As always. We'll see you next time, folks. For more 643 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 644 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.