WEBVTT - Chapter 15: The Seekers 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:03.800 Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio three D 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.760 audio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankey for full exposure. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:19.160 Listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. I know you're all 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:24.040 still grieving. I am too. I may not have known 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:30.040 Celeste personally, but she was beloved by everyone in the gathering, 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.199 not just the ones here in Bridgewater. I wish, I 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.480 wish we had time to properly mourn, to give Celeste 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.120 the goodbye she deserves, to determine who she would have 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:51.040 wanted to lead you in her stead. But unfortunately we don't. Celeste, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.920 as much as she tried her best, has left us 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:59.080 with a less than ideal situation. What the children started 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.480 back in the seven Needs she tried to finish. But 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.040 as I'm sure you all know by now, that's not 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:09.880 what happened. Despite all her best laid plans, Celeste didn't succeed. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.520 She didn't get all the way through the portal. The 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.040 liminal has been left wanting. Perhaps if she had finished 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.160 the ritual properly, we wouldn't be facing the situation we are. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:26.000 But there are things that need to be dealt with. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.320 Doors that need to be opened and closed protections that 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.880 need to be put in place. Things here in this 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:40.080 region were They were unbalanced long before Celeste's death. They've 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:44.880 been unbalanced for decades. But I think we all know 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.040 it's now worse than ever. It's up to us now 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:54.520 to fix it, to do whatever we can to put 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:59.680 things back into balance. There is a rift in the bridgewater. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.360 Try I angle a tear big enough to let things out, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:48.959 but too small to let us in. That has to change. Hey, 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.320 are you sure you're feeling okay? Because I can get 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.519 stuff for dinner on my own. I'm fine, Jerry, fine 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.480 that you collapse, I collapse. I got a little loozy. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.680 It's no big deal. Um, So you've been in a 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.720 lot of earthquakes, Olivia explained a bit about climate change 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.560 to me. Does Massachusetts get a lot of earthquakes? Now? Uh? No, No, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.200 it's that's not climate change is serious, but it's Uh, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.760 there were some earthquakes when I was in California for college, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.600 and my mom is still out there. Like I said, so, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.280 I've I've been out to a visit a bit. Right, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.880 come right, California r very exciting. What made you want 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.920 to come back? Uh? Here, it just seemed like a 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.440 good place. For folklore academics. Um, I don't know. I 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.640 never really felt right staying away too long for some reason. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.119 I guess part of me knew that I had unfinished 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.880 business here. It must have been hard, you know, growing 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.640 up with what happened to me. I imagine it was 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.080 pretty big news at the time. Oh yeah, yeah, everyone 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.720 had their theories. Um, but you know, people lost interest eventually, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.400 No sense. Mom did a pretty good job of shielding 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:08.080 me from it. Is she Her husband is a he's 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.600 a good man, he says, she happy. Um, yeah, I 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.320 think so. I don't know. I don't know. We're not 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:23.120 that close. Actually, uh right, I think that's good for Vinci's. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:28.400 Let's get some pasta. Do you cook a lot? Not 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.280 as much as I should. Probably. I never really got 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.560 off my thesis diet, to be honest, Well, lots of 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:39.040 fast food and too much coffee. Oh so you're familiar. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.200 I always worried steak out heals we're gonna put me 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:48.159 in an early grave. Well sorry, speaking of food, you 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.760 ate earlier, right with vipen in Olivia. Yeah, but that 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.400 was hours ago. By the time we get home, I'll 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.120 definitely be hungry for dinner. No, no no, no, I mean, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.320 do you feel how did you feel afterwards? You didn't 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.240 get sick again? Did you? Oh? No, no, I'm fine. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.400 You were fine, like you didn't get sick or you 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.919 felt okay, I didn't get sick. And have you been sleeping? Jeremy? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.680 What is this? I know you think you're fine, but 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:17.400 I'm worried. Look if this is the pay round, then 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.000 they're not known for their fair deals. And if we 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.560 have accidentally broken some rule, I know. This is why 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.719 we need to get Olden out and make sure the 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.680 gate is cleared. Can you I'm just more focused on 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.479 keeping you alive and here for right now. Can we 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.760 just forget Alden and whatever monsters are rowing around out there? 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.920 You are now my responsibility, and if the in between 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.719 is really seeping out into our world, then I need 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.360 to make sure that it can't hurt you. I understand 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.240 your concerned, Jeremy, but this is bigger than just me, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.120 and maybe if we focus on fixing things, whatever is 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.440 going on with me will just resolve itself. Okay, so 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.600 you're admitting that there is something going on with you. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.720 I think I spent a long time in a very 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.800 strange place and maybe that put my body through a lot. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.680 I think it's not your job to worry about it. Hey, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.520 focus on what you're good at. You spent your life 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.320 understanding all of this stuff, and you're going to figure 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.479 it out. I know you will. Dad. I feel like 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.839 I'm going crazy. I don't know where to put my focus. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.800 I don't know what to worry about. I had to 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.680 I had to go to my job yesterday, and I 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:22.839 had to get up in front of a group of 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.560 college students and pretend like everything was normal. No, it's 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.839 it's like seeing a natural disaster on the news. You know, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.360 it's terrifying and it's awful, and you want to help 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.560 people affected by it, but there's really nothing that you 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.599 can do, not at the moment, because you can't stop 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.640 a storm, and you can't protect all those people because 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.360 you're just a single person thousands of miles away. Right 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.240 But in this situation, the natural disaster is in the 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.600 next town over, So maybe I do have to worry 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.320 about the tornado hitting me, except for right now. My 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.440 house is also on fire, so it also feels like 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.800 I should focus on that first. But while all that 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.840 is going on, I have been handed this winning lottery 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:07.720 to get you I don't know if I'm making any sense. Yeah, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.480 it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a fucking lot. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.800 And I don't know how you'reself fucking calm. I've had 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.280 at least forty years to come to terms with magic 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.840 or whatever. This is being real. It's not just about 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.040 all of this has to be overwhelming for you. I 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.120 mean you you last saw your son when he was five, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.200 and now I'm a middle aged man, and your girlfriend 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:29.800 is an old woman, and you have a daughter that 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.960 you haven't even matt, and I don't know how you're 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.840 not freaking out every second. I actually did meet Shelly 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:41.280 earlier today. What I haven't told Anne yet, Olivia brought me. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.240 Oh Christ, I don't even know how to react to this. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.920 She did not react. Well, Olivia is going to work 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:54.800 on her. Jesus. It's not that I'm unaffected, but I'm 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.240 gooding a crisis. I always have been. Well. I guess 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.720 that's the cop in you. Huh, it's dad in me. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.960 You can't fall apart when you've got a kid to 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.000 take care of. Yeah, well, you don't need to worry 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.840 about me. I'm not a kid anymore. No, you're not. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.360 But I'm still going to worry, especially since, especially since 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.800 I am having a breakdown in the middle of the 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.080 dry goods aisle. Look, you'll buck up. You're just not 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.880 used to all this high stress stuff. I get it. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.000 What do you mean by that? But you're not alone 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.880 in this all right. We've got a real brain trust. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.160 You've got all the folklore stuff and the best investigator 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.840 I've ever met, and Hippin and Olivia are going to 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.360 that weird group you found tonight. We've got it all covered. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.120 You don't have to put out the fire and prepare 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.200 for the tornado all by yourself. You just have to 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.640 stay tough. Mhm. Okay, but come on, let's get out 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:54.760 of here. Let's get the pasta go home. Are we 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.839 sure this is the right place? Pretty sure? They said 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:03.360 they'd be in the back, right, Maybe there's another room, right? 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.440 Should we order something? It feels rude to come to 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.800 a bar and non order something fried. Well, it's not 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.240 like we're taking up seats that could go to paying customers, right, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:19.280 I mean, this place is dead. I'm telling you something 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.240 is different. But what could have changed? There's been no 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.040 full moon, no planet movement. Always think it's the planets. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.319 This is why I think we should revisit the ley 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:32.880 Line theory. I'm just saying, why would can we help you? Yeah? 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.880 Is this the paranormal seekers? Who's asking? Oh my god, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.400 so dramatic. Yes, we are some of them, at least 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.120 he always wants to act like we're some secret ghost 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.960 hunting squad. I'm Cindy, this is Kevin and Spencer, and 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.600 you guys are totally welcome to join. Just pull up 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:56.280 a chair. I'm Olivia. This is Vippin. Nice to meet 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.320 you guys. We're pretty new to the whole legend tripping thing, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.400 so when we saw that you guys were actually meeting 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:07.360 in person. Yeah, it's exciting, isn't it. This is actually 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.160 the first time we are meeting face to face. So 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.840 you guys aren't all from here. I live here, but 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.760 Cindy's up in Vermont and Kevin's out in Indianapolis and 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.600 you came to Bridgewater just because what weird stuff is happening? 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.920 Something's changing. Besides, I had some vacation days to use. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.280 We've been talking about getting together for some group legend 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.880 tripping for a while now. So did you all go 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.440 and see the cows? The cows, the ones at Oakley Farms. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.160 What happened? Oh weird? I thought one of your members 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.480 went to look into it. It's possible. I know some 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.000 of the other folks are Boston based, so we're not 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.319 all in regular touch with each other. The three of 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.480 us have just been talking online for a long time. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.800 We bonded over our shared obsession with the Bridgewater Triangle. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.680 So the cows, Oh right, Well, these cows were viscerated, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.080 totally torn apart by something. Yeah, it was really rough. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:11.800 You saw them. Yeah. Here, if you're squeamish, you might 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.920 not want to look. Oh my god, are those teeth 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.480 marks on its ribs? What the actual hell? It's exactly 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:25.120 our question. So you guys are real believers, then whoa 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.760 what constitutes a real believer? I mean, we've all got 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.120 our different perspectives, things we agree on and don't agree on. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.600 I just think if you read a little bit more 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.319 about planet alignment and moon phases, it's astrology, Cindy, It's 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.040 the same thing. It's not ignore them. This argument is 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.880 ancient and it will never be resolved. But that's not 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.600 the point. Regardless of what we believe, we all think 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.120 there's something unexplainable out there, not just in the world 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:55.520 in general, but specifically here in the Bridgewater Triangle. In 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.160 that case, then yeah, I think you could call us 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:04.720 true believers. There's definitely something more here. So what what 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.400 exactly do you both believe? We're still figuring that out, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.720 or at least I am. I think that monsters are real, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.080 like the big teeth, supernatural strength beasts of myth monsters. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.280 As to where they come from or what exactly they are, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.439 I'm still figuring that bit out. And what about you, Vivien? 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:29.640 Do you believe in monsters? Uh? Yeah, I think I do. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.720 I think I was attacked by one. Why what? What kind? 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.760 It was about a week ago? See this scratch here? 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.760 Holy shit. The doctor told me it was an owl, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.520 but you were the owl attack? Yeah? How do you? 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.640 I'm a nurse at the hospital. I'd heard we had 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.599 an owl attack come in and I thought it was 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.679 weird that it it might be something else. You didn't 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.040 tell us that. Well, it's not exactly ethical to share 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.360 information from my job. It's not like you would have 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.920 told us anything about who it was. We don't even 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.920 live here. Still a gray area. You said this was 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:14.520 a week ago. So do you guys have also had encounters? Well, no, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.520 none of us have ever actually seen anything, but there's 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.320 been lots of report, just never any hard proof, which 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.080 doesn't mean those things didn't happen, but it can be 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.280 hard to weed out the drug trips from the genuinely paranormal. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.760 And there have been more reports overall recently, big time 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.680 like what it'd almost be faster to list the things 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.319 that haven't happened in the last few weeks. At least 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.440 three bigfoot sidings, a thunderbird siding which hasn't happened in years, 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.079 a bunch of reports of either UFOs or willow whisps 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.120 or some kind of hovering lights all over the place, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.880 freetown hawk mock the net, and and and the return 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.319 of a bunch of the classics ghost laughter at Melrose Cemetery, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.760 the red Headed Hitchhiker, even spotting of the dover demon. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.080 The three of us puts a they're an official submission 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.160 forum on the forum for just the Bridgewater Triangle and 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.160 it has been blowing up. Yeah, and now and owl 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.880 attack and animal of asceration. We were right, things are 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:16.560 definitely escalating. Okay, But what does that all mean let's 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.360 say all of it is true, the sidings, the hauntings, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.360 the monster attacks, all in the last month. What would 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.840 that mean that we're n I don't see how it 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.400 could mean anything else. Something's pissed and ready to get 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.440 its revenge. Revenge the big Foot settings are would tipped 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.760 me off. A lot of people think Bigfoot is this 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.600 like gentle giant, but that's not based in anything. What 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.600 we do know is that most human interactions with Bigfoot 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.920 have been bad, and there's a growing suspicion among people 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.960 like us that Bigfoot is actually an apex predator who 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.720 functions as a kind of queen bee for other monsters. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.520 He's overstating it. There is Kevin and a few of 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.480 his friends who think that, think about it's Cindy big 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.640 Foot Star attacking because we've encroached on his territory. But 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.440 it's not enough. We still stick around, so he starts 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.120 to send other creatures after except a lot of what's 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.760 happened is definitely ghost related, which can't be explained by 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.880 big Foot at all. But if stuff has gotten misaligned 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.400 in the cosmos as a whole, it would make sense 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.280 for ghosts to be more visible than they have been previously. Okay, Cindy, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.200 but then you have to admit that lay lines could 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.760 provide the exact same kind of explanation. No, I don't, Spencer, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.360 because there's no proof that lay lines exist, whereas the 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.000 planets actually doing, but no one has proven that their 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.560 orbits can cause spiritual activity. Wait wait, wait, wait, okay, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.200 back up. What are lay lines invisible lines drawn across 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.160 the world that contain earth energies. They connect different historical structures, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:50.080 and we're supposedly used by different ancient civilizations. Yeah exactly. Wow, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:58.040 you know your stuff, study mythology, so see mythology. Okay, 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.240 but there's so much evidence of this supernatural in texts 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.600 from ancient civilizations, So wouldn't it make sense that they 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.120 figured out what was causing all of it before we 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.040 got so bogged down in empirical science. You say that 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.560 like it's a bad thing. Look, I still want hard 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.520 proof for things, but just because something doesn't have proof 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.600 doesn't mean I'm not going to believe it. Can't that 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.880 logic be used to excuse a whole lot of dangerous 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.640 pseudo science though, Sure, But I mean anything can be 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.680 used for evil. That feels like a weak justification. Spencer's right, Yeah, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.360 maybe other people will use the whole You can't prove 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.040 a negative argument to support bad ideas. But people throughout 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.800 history have also used the trappings of real hard science 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.560 to justify their shitty pseudo sciences. There are assholes everywhere. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.280 I guess that's true. If you guys are so skeptical, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.080 does that mean you have proof of what you believe? 0:16:53.880 --> 0:17:00.120 Whoa we we're in the woods the other night and 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:07.000 and saw something odd, right, odd? Yeah, like um enormous 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.879 ferreal monster dog odd? Oh my god? And this this 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.600 is the thing that attacked you. We don't know. We 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:18.919 were hoping you maybe had some ideas. The giant dog. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.040 Was it black? Yeah, yeah it was. I mean that 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.679 could be anything. Black dogs are all over myths. Yeah, no, 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.800 I know, hell hound's guard dogs, ghost dogs, fairy dogs. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.080 That's why we need your help narrowing it down. Where 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.800 did you say you were? Freetown State Forest. The last 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.719 black dog siding that I know of was the one 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.720 in Abington in Oh god, yeah, when's that seventy six? 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.480 I don't know, it was a while ago. Abington' that's 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.520 not that close to Freetown, No, but it was also 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.000 forty years ago. I'm sure the dog moved. It might 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.560 not be the same one. Did anyone have a guess 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.159 what the one in the seventies was like? What specific 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.480 brand of mythic old black dog? Something impervious to bullets? 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.040 Apparently someone shot it and it just walked away and disappeared. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.280 How did we miss this? Avington was included in a 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:17.639 research right, I've only been looking at see. I didn't 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.360 think anything more than a year out would be relevant. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:25.240 Year out from what? Oh, We've just we've been doing 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.960 our own collecting of incidents. It seems like there was 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:33.280 another high concentration in and around, so we're just trying 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.920 to find patterns. Well, consider us your data collectors. Seems 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.040 you guys are more tapped in than the usual newcomers. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.400 So we can all help each other. Sure, and who knows, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:19:09.680 maybe we'll actually find some real proof. Mm hmm. Jeremy 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:20.680 side side, where are you? Dad? Where are you? Daddad? 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:30.040 I'm here? Never come here, Dad, Dad? Ain't Jeremy come here? 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:44.280 Who are you? I'm a friend, Jeremy, come on, m jesus. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:58.480 Mm hmmm mm hmm h um. Okay, going for a walk, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:14.160 be back soon, Jeremy, m M, Jeremy, pull it together, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:21.880 um and stop talking to yourself. What is that? Maybe 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.720 I should just get out of here. Why did I 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.119 think coming out here was a good idea? Hello? Hello? 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:37.640 Is somebody there? Who you? Well? This is a weird coincidence, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:44.280 No kidding. Come here often you'd be surprised. What are you? 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.320 What are you doing here? It's the lake in Freetown Forest. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.040 I couldn't make a trip to the Bridgewater Triangle without 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:56.920 coming here, right, What about you? I am a friend, uh, 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.480 well a woman that I knew, not a friend. Really. Um, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.639 she died here? Oh god, Oh I'm so sorry. I no, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.280 thank you, thank you. It's okay, I think, Um, I 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.600 know what happened, and I know why she did what 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.400 she did, and I know why she would say it's okay. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.960 But it's I don't know what it is. I don't 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.960 know if that doesn't make any sense, But I think 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.280 I was hoping that by coming back here become okay 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.640 with it. I guess, yeah, I don't know, something like that. Um. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:32.360 Did you just hear a sound? A sound? What kind 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.760 of sounds it was like? Um, like a humming sound. 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:41.080 I've heard it before. Anyway, you didn't hear anything? No, 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:47.960 I didn't, But um, did it sound anything like this? Yep, 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.199 yes it did. What what is that? It's an e 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.840 n F detector? Oh? I mean it's great for tracking 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.440 down disturbances in the electromagnetic field, but not so much 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.159 for being able to hear anything while you're doing it. 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.480 They don't all sound like this, but I made some 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.679 of my own modifications. Oh so it's a bespoke e 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.320 m F detector. Wow? Are you sure this is just 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.640 a hobby? Okay? If I could turn it into a career, 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:17.439 I would, but not a lot of demand for paranormal investigators. Yeah, 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:21.679 maybe not, but you could think out of the box 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.880 on this one. That I basically made it into a career, right, 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.760 the cool professor, Your words, not mine. Hey, I stand 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.800 by it. I would have been front row of your 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.040 class if you were taught at my college. Though, running 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.280 into the woods is just as good. Okay, So what 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.680 are you hoping to find with that? I never really know. 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.120 That's kind of the point. Just let the MF tell 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.439 me where to look. What have you found with it 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.679 in the past, Nothing super definitive yet, but it's been 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.359 going haywire since I got to Bridgewater, so I haven't 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:59.480 given up. Hope, how did you How did you get 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.760 into all this stuff that, the legend tripping and the 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.600 E M F detector modifying. It doesn't seem like something 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.960 you just fall into. Yeah, definitely not. I mean, how 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.119 does anyone become interested in this stuff? Right? We have 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.639 an encounter with something we can't explain. So you you 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:23.080 had an encounter? Yeah? So, Um, I may not have 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.280 been totally honest when I said I was making the 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.160 pilgrimage to Bridgewater. Oh, I actually used to live here. 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.080 We moved away when I was a kid. Yeah, because 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.440 something happened right here in Freetown Forest. I just got 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.720 sound crazy, but I was hearing these voices and I 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.000 thought I saw someone, but I could never catch up 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.800 to them. I actually got lost for like an entire night, wandering, 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:54.400 just wandering through the woods. I never found anything. Yikes. 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.440 That probably sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Huh, 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.720 A kid's overactive imagination that I've I'm now turned into 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:07.560 a lifelong obsession. Um, no, not at all. I have 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.760 the chills right now. I actually, um really get it. 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:15.919 Really yeah, I don't really remember it that clearly. But 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.439 when I was a kid, I got lost here too. No, 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:24.480 you're kidding, I'm not. No, Like I said, I it's 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:29.119 very foggy. I don't remember it much. But um, it's funny. 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:30.600 I've spent a lot of time in this forest in 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.359 the last few weeks, and none of it has brought 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:38.439 back memories of that time. But then I had this 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.480 dream last night, and when I woke up, I just 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.960 I just knew I had to come here. That this 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.160 sounds so strange, but it's it's like I'm I'm I'm 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.960 seeing it differently. Somehow are you remembering stuff? I don't 0:24:56.000 --> 0:25:00.359 know it. It all just feels more familiar, like I can. Okay, 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:05.919 you know there was a voice for me too, Yeah yeah, 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:10.800 but it wasn't. Um. You know, I've I've heard voices here, uh, 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.920 but but this one was it was it was friendly. God, 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.080 this is so weird. I I have barely been able 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.600 to remember that time at all, but now it's it's 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.280 all just rushing back. Maybe it just took someone saying 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.040 the same thing happened to them to make you feel 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:32.560 not crazy. I know it's certainly helping me. Yeah, I 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.280 can't believe we got lost in the same forest as kids. Well, 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.880 I guess it's an easy place to get lost. Yeah, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:49.920 but maybe not such a bad place to find something either, right, sure? Sorry? Yeah? Where? 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.720 Uh yeah I can. I can be there in twenty probably. No, 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.960 I'm just in Freetown, yeah, by the lake. No no, 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.800 no, no no, I'm gonna be fine. I just yeah, okay, 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.920 all right, see you soon by Cryptic Hunting our over 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:12.520 Um no, actually, just just changing locations. It seems like 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:17.560 there was a potential bigfoot sighting in hawk a Mock. 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:23.040 So I'm I'm meeting some folks there. Wow, busy day. Hey, 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.080 would you like to join me? The The people that 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.960 I'm meeting there are into this stuff too. I think 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.800 you like them. Oh that's okay. I would love to, 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.239 but um, I've got some more stuff to take care 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:38.119 of here. Okay, Well, it was really great running into you. 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:43.080 You too. Oh and hey, listen, um if you hear 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.560 when we're should iding. If you need him one st 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:51.480 Hunting Warner, Uh, this is my number here there, or 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.080 if you just want to talk about weirdly overlapping childood trauma. Um, 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:59.760 that's good too. Thanks. I'm going to take you up 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:07.080