WEBVTT - Positively Gam: Dressing Age Appropriate w/ June Ambrose 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.280 I absolutely love fashion. I always have ever since I 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.560 was a little girl dressing up. I was a little 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.239 girl who wanted to put on three Kremlin slips and 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:21.520 Stacy socks and the patent leather shoes. What's up, everybody, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.920 I'm dammy and this is positivelygan. Every week I have raw, 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.120 in depth conversations with inspirational people pushing for change on 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:35.680 everything from aging, relationships, politics, wellness, to the current issues 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.320 facing the black community. And in this episode, we're gonna 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.560 be talking about fashion and style after fifty. Today, I'm 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:49.519 talking to style icon June Ambrose. June is a creative director, 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:54.680 costume designer, author, and celebrity style is. She has created 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.000 some of the most iconic looks for a list stars 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.040 such as Missy Elliott, Jay Eazy, and one of my 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.320 favorite people in the world, my son in law, Will Smith. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.560 June was a costume designer on Will's video Getting Jiggy 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.440 with It. June started out in finance before creating a 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:19.080 fashion empire. Currently, while in quarantine, June has been hosting 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.680 the June and Summer i G Live Show with her 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.240 daughter Summer and you know, June, I have to say 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.920 that Summer reminds me so much of Willow. She's so 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.039 full confidence and energy, not afraid to speak her mind, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.679 and not shot at all. Hey, guys, welcome back to 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.320 the Junie Summer Shows. June show. How you want to 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.880 call it Today's freest Friday. So I'm sure you guys 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.760 have been having a fun experience with that. So whose 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.320 idea was that? Because I have a feeling it with Summers, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:53.080 not yours. Well listen, it was my dead And initially 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.040 just because I really wanted to kind of create a routine, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.120 you know, homeschooling was something that none of us we 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.120 were gonna be thrown into. I wanted her to know 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.360 that you have nothing's changed as a schedule, And I 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.320 also wanted to have something to do with her because 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.720 I knew that I was gonna try to stay in 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.920 that space to just kind of stay in touch with 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.679 people and that lose my mind. And I just asked 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.360 her to do one show with me. And at first 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.240 she was like, she was like okay, But then after 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.320 it became like a thing where I was like producing it, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.560 then she she quit like six times because it just 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.400 it just got too serious, you know, it was like 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.320 it got it got real, but it also allowed her 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.000 to find herself in her voice. I mean, she's always 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.080 been very opinionated, and you know, I definitely see what 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.920 you see with you know, the willow and her singing, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.880 like they're just such they're so confident in their own person. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.160 You know. I don't. I don't. I don't overproduce my kids, 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.960 you know. And I think that's what I admire so 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.119 much about the Smith's kids. It is like they they're 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.440 just so authentically themselves. There's something about that that's so important. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:00.440 My mom never altered who I was overproduce me. It's 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.240 why I am who I am because she never she 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.320 didn't in my light. She didn't put me in this box. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.120 She didn't say speak when you're spoken to. She didn't say, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:12.480 you know, calm down. I was just precocious and over 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.359 the top as I am now is I was when 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.440 I was three years old. I would want to just 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:24.440 remind everyone that's listening how difficult your job is. You know. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.360 I know you do it because you love it, but 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:32.760 you know, style is such a personal thing and to 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:41.600 have to try to dress someone and understand there a style, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.840 what they want, and recognizing that what they want may 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:50.080 not always be what looks best for them and not 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.600 put your style on them. And then each person is different, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.839 each client that you get is different. Well, I think 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:04.400 that's where the skill set comes in, the understanding of 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:10.720 how to translate and articulate someone's personality and personal persona 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.960 and character develop them within the action of stiling. Right, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:17.880 So if you look at it all, I'm gonna put 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.160 some clothes together. I love this high fashion thing. That's 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.960 as great. This is what's happening, you know, naming twenty labels, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.920 and you think that styling, you could be met with opposition, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:33.400 body opposition and personality opposition. You know, where someone puts 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.359 something on and it could be yeah, it could be 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.080 the most amazing thing, and they put it on, they're like, oh, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.680 I don't I don't feel it. I don't connect. I 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.440 always removed myself from the experience because it's not about me. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.080 What I do try to do, I try to inject 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.400 energy and expertise inless particular, inless particular action of having 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.479 to help someone to, you know, really develop their own 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.719 personal style or characters, develop them because some people might feel, oh, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.640 I to reinvent myself. And that's why I use the 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.479 word character development, So where they need to separate there 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.920 all you know, their their own personal inhibitions to become 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.320 the person that they want to become. Sometimes you have 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.560 to step outside of yourself to see further down the line. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.120 Is what happens when someone says I want to reinvent 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:20.200 myself and they don't realize that process will require you 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.640 taking some risks. That process will require you stepping outside 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.160 of your comfort your comfort space, and when you say 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.000 that initially, it's a little bit jarring, and the ideas 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.960 a little bit like what are you talking about? Willis 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.520 imagine the person you want to become. Don't just see 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.240 the admirer of things that you see on others. Figure 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.520 out how you can interpret that for yourself. So it 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.800 takes taking taking little things from it. And we look 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.200 at fashion magazines. We don't look like supermodels. The average 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.000 person does not look like a model in a magazine. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.160 But you may love the texture, you may love the color, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.400 and now you have to figure out, how can I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.599 incorporate that that you know, that thing that I that 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:05.719 I can identify with. That spark of identifying something that 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.080 connects with you is beautiful, because that's saying that's gross, right. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.640 You know, some people look at things and what I 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.080 don't get it. I don't like it. I don't know 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.280 that could be me. But then some people look at 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.960 things and say, oh, I wish, So putting yourself in 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.280 the I wish and then put yourself into receiving, you know, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.200 all the things that you wish for, you asked for. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.159 Because we're addressing over fifty, I want to be very clear, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.960 like it's different now, it's not We're not in the fifties. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.520 We're not in this. You know, we're not back and 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.080 they were. You know, there was a certain you know, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.160 rule of thumb for women, mature women. You know, the 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.920 ponty pants will cut a certain way. You know, the 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.520 skirt line was you know, a certain way. But now 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.800 you know, you look at you, for instance, you're in 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:55.279 amazing physical shape. You know, you have the most regressive features. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.839 You just age backwards like Benjamin Buttons. I know, but 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.320 but I still feel like regardless of that, like you 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.480 still have to pay attention to what is age appropriate. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.080 You know, I break all the rules there, I don't. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.920 I'm not saying that you should wear a pair of 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.880 poompum shorts. Hi, I'm not saying you should wear a 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.800 pair of poompuom shorts because that would probably not be 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.600 age appropriate. But I don't but I don't. I wouldn't 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.880 necessarily see you doing that or any woman of that 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.040 age doing that, because I'm forty nine and for me, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.960 I've I've found a space of wanting to be baggy 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.640 and tomboye and lose and it's very young right now? 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.760 Is that a right? Is that age appropriate? So it's 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.560 not like we can't equate, like, you know, age appropriate 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.760 with sexy, because every young person is not necessarily provocatively 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.080 dressing sexy. Right, that's one. So I want you to 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.600 interpret like dressing your age, you should be dressing your spirit. Right, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.000 you should be dressing how how you feel. So some 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.360 days I wake up and I'm like, you know, I 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.200 don't want to even and show my body. I'm going 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.000 a big, oversized caftan dress. You know, it's it could 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.800 be very very cheic. I love things with dramatic silhouettes, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.040 very petite, so you know, I tend to do things 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.200 that will flow to the floor. It makes me look 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.400 a little longer if the neckline is open. So there 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.280 are all these physical rules to different silhouettes, especially for 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.440 more mature women that want to still feel sexy. Now, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.000 your your clavicles will be your new cleavage, if your 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.200 breasts have dropped, if you still like showing your death 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.640 lettee and you know, that's a great place for you 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.880 to express feeling a little bit more. You know, set 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.440 sensual a little bit sexier. And it doesn't mean that 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.040 you couldn't necessarily do a low v nut cardigan, because 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:48.040 you could do a cardigan sweater with some pencil jeans 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.240 and that's age you could. And if you have the waistline, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.760 you could do a very thin belt over the card Again, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.199 if you don't have a waistline, you can wear an 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.040 oversized cardigan fitted fitted jeans, and you can do a 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.880 ballet slipper over a pair of sneakers. And these are 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.560 like simple, effortless pieces. Right, So I think carticons are important. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.280 I think of you know, like shirts, not not like 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.160 a blouse, a shirt, a shirt, a crispy pinstriped shirt, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.760 a crispy white shirt, super classic, super aplous. And it 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.360 allows you, um the ability to lay a really fun 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.000 things on top, right, or layering a chunky piece of 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.360 jewelry and adding your own personal seasoning. You know, it's 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.160 like what's cooking right. So it's like finding the right 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.720 pair of jeans. I personally am not a fan of 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.360 jeans when I'm feeling a little bit more on the 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.319 chubbier side, Like if I'm not loving my thighs, then 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.280 don't wear a pair of faded blue jeans with the 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.280 with the fadedness in the thigh were darker blue jean. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.760 And then where like something that's gonna cover the you know, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.360 the fuller size part of your body where there's your hips, 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.800 in your in your bump. I et like a tunic 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.720 or an oversized partigan or a blazer with a with 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.560 a camisole. These are like again, blazers are also super 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:07.319 like to me age appropriate. You can make it look dressy, 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.800 you can make it look sporty. You can wear it 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.079 with a slip. You can wear it with a vnet 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.719 T shirt and some jeans and some heels, and your 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.880 heel can be a three inch it could be a 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.640 single soul platform because you know, as we age up 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.360 sometimes you know it's a little bit much on our 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.680 knees to be in a seven inch sletter, but you 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.240 still want to have a little lift, so you do 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.440 a single soul platform, so it gives you that feeling 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.040 of the pitch of a pump, but you have the 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.920 support of the wedge. So I always I use it 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.800 as a training wheel to enter a world of wearing heels, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.040 and then I use it as the exit strategy to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.200 when you're starting to kind of go into I can't 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.800 wear heels any more, but I'm slowly going, you know, declining, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.560 and do it with grace. And now, when do you 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.839 feel about kitten heels. My husband just absolutely will not 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:58.839 allow me towear k He hates the kidden heal. No, man, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.160 I'm with you. Might be your husband, you do not 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.240 get kissed. And kitten heels they are well. First of all, 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.079 I think kitty's are great for women who are like amazons. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.679 If you are five eleven, you're nine. A kidney hell 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.320 is super demure. It's great because you don't that's a 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.720 woman loves that tall. That's her deal. A girl who's 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.360 five one five ft anything between kenney you might as 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.680 will wear a nice flat pier shoes. I'd rather you 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.240 just go all the way flat. Yeah, yeah, but I 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.120 know I feel like I need to do I feel 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.360 like I need to do a collab with I don't know, 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:43.720 Jimmy two or Globle something be real. Shoes are not cute, no, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.680 And that's one of the things that's one of the 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.480 accessory like that. I'm a shoe fan. Like I love shoes. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.960 I love shoes and bags, but I am flat footed, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.720 okay to me, to me a kidten here, very uncomfortable 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.679 now yeah, yeah, so, but I just wish that because 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.440 I am finding that I'm right now I'm starting to 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:10.559 look for like the like eighty five or seventy million 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.760 kill because well, the highest I'm gonna go anyway as 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.439 a hundred. Jada and I wear the same side shoe. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.480 But that's awesome. My daughter's daughter has already exceeded me. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:26.079 I'm like, sorry, but Jada's heels are She's so tiny, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.360 She's so short. He's gonna have on a five or 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.240 six in shield. So I don't always get her hand 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:37.560 me down. You don't always want them. She has fabulous shoes, 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:47.160 but I can't. I can't walk in them. But I 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.160 always encourage women that you know that that's over the 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.400 age of fifty two to really really find color. It 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.480 really it brings you know, it brings such happiness and joy. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:03.800 And also patterns, dramatic patterns, you know, are just graphic, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.000 beautiful patterns. That's another way to really kind of be 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.400 super stylish effortlessly because it's just imagine if you have 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.040 on your oversized white shirt, you have on some leggings, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.640 you have on a nice flat whether it's a thong, 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.000 sandal or low for whatever it is, and then use 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:25.440 are all big oversized graphic you know, kimono or trench 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.520 or you know, it's just it's just super super chic. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.280 And also women, you know, over the age of fifty, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.600 we're a little bit more responsible, you know, we think 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.440 a little bit more curated. We think a little bit 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.640 more that I think there's less emphasis on wanting to 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.360 be like trendy, trendy, trendy. The closet is smarter, the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:51.000 beautiful collectible pieces. You become a collector. Not that to 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.800 say that you hadn't collected before, but you really start 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.240 to your eye curate things differently, you know, where it's 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.040 like you're like, oh, I meet that flow print re 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.559 stando and you know, over it's just it's just something 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.560 that's so chic about it, and you wear it with 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.400 clean lines, all camel, and then a pop of color 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.600 on top. Color blocking is another beautiful way for a 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.240 woman whose body has changed. You can gate depth with 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.600 with color blocking. So you go, if you you know 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.680 you want to create this sense of depth of the inside, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.360 you go warmer and darker jewel tones on the inside, 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.720 and then you do the pop of color on the outside. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.200 And this creates a sense of like hollowness. And also 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.600 avoid things that squeeze your body and that are super 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.720 super tight. Go for something more flowey, and you know, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.920 it's very glamorous. It could be very very very sexy, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.160 especially if again if it's a calf tan, you know, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.000 and you can wear beautiful necklaces and chains and just 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.560 be very graceful. And I think that you have to 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.160 think kind of old Hollywood, but it's kind of is 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.520 kind of a great reference, you know, think you know, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.040 just glamor. Well, I think that I'm kind of on 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.280 the right track then, June, I don't. I don't think 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.920 i've been to it that bed keeping eyes are You're 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:12.280 doing well. Let's talk a little bit about shapers and 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:16.960 space for all ages, because I feel like the younger 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.720 folks don't really appreciate you gotta keep you be you's 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:26.120 gotta keep your meat meat thank you, okay, And it's 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.320 I just think that, you know, it's it's like it's fundamental. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.240 It's like wearing a mask at this point. Yeah, you know, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.840 if you want to wear something form fitted, you gotta 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.400 have something on their controls. But is it me Do 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.200 you feel like they it's kind of been rejected in 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.400 the in the young generations a little bit because you know, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.000 it's we're in the age of poles and it's like 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.960 we're in the age of freedom and we're in the 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.320 age of kind of exploitation, and it's kind of like 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:58.160 we're looking at this. You know, the culture is really 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.360 driven by what if you think about what was happening 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.160 back in those days when you had the Bardville shows. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.760 There were courses, I mean, shapewear. I think things that 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.800 have built in shapewear they're okay with. But the idea 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.160 of putting on like a full on it goes, it 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.720 goes in cycles. I think I think that's something that 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.080 moms should introduce, you know, to that. I agree at 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.280 a very early age, I wish it would come back 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.840 because uh yeah, what we're seeing sometimes is gonna be 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.600 like listen, girl, because I could fix this real quick, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.360 exactly exactly, put on just a little biker short, just 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.200 a little something, just a little something, and you know, yeah, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.960 so I think that you just want to make sure 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:46.080 that you are wearing shapewear that is not sabotaging your body, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.240 that's doing the work. But please don't forget about shapers, guys, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.600 shapers are a wonderful thing. Don't let us, don't let 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.760 us thank you. Even spanks are funny because if you 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.600 don't have on the right item to you know, then 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.520 then you can see, yeah, you can see. They can 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.920 mess you up. Yeah, you know. Some people also buy 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.440 shaper too small and then it ends up rolling down 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.040 creating bubbles. So you really want to make sure that 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.200 you're fitted for your shaper, like you're fitted for your bra. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.720 You also want to make sure, like if you're wearing 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.119 a pair of trousers, you don't want to wear the 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.439 bikers you're right, you know shape, you can see it 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.480 on your bag. You'll see the right you'll see the 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.119 line on your side, which is not Those biker sharts 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.320 are great for dresses, things that don't necessary won't that 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.000 won't that that don't sit close to the body, but 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.320 just kind of cascade. Um. They have the full length 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.240 you know, waste waste to ankles, which are great. They 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.399 even have things for your upper arms, you know, to 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:52.160 to really control that that little section. I travel a lot, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.200 you know, I'm on it off the plane because I'm 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.199 by coastal. What is your go to travel wardrobe? I 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.680 love I saw you had on this which though was 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.320 really cuss jumper just like kind of black, soft, kind 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.960 of cotton T shirt that was That was actually Kelly 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:14.639 Rowland from her from her labratics, from her fabletic and 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.359 totally gets it. Those are great travel pieces. I like 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.840 traveling as comfortable as possible. I love the pajama sets 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.760 to travel in. I think another that's another great you 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.480 know now that you know the two piece of jama 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.760 sets are you know so acceptable to where during the 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.480 day is fashion. It's a great travel piece. You know, 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.600 just a good old, you know, reathable jogging suit. Nothing 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.600 to like sweaty and heavy. It's you know, a ninth 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.119 lightweight where it's a cash me is like you know, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.320 a little T shirt fabricause something you want to be 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.840 comfortable and if you layer it could be super super cheap. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.960 I always layer up, you know, I'll wear like a 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.040 duster to elevate my you know, really casual maybe spair 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.640 sweatpants and the tea. I'll elevate it with, you know, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.520 a poncho, just you know, the ways of the layering 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.520 and elevating a really casual look. I actually want to 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:08.199 get your opinion on how I styled myself, cause I 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:13.919 styled myself for the Image Awards and it was challenging 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.760 for me. But I thought I did a great job. 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.680 I mean, well you you you you were saying thing 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.800 about that I was, and it's and listen if whenever 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.800 in doubt, a black dress will never stay you wrong. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.560 I thought it was beautifully fitted. You know, it was easy. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.640 You know, it had the perfect neckline. It was sexy 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.239 but not trying too hard whenever in doubt, I mean, 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.800 I just thought it was the perfect kind of like 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.240 go to. Now, was was that always kind of your 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:41.879 go to like when you have to work, you know, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.680 kind of figured out for yourself as a black dress? Well, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.920 this was the first time I had to do anything 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:53.160 like this. Oh really, yeah, that was my first stepping 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.040 out stepping out like that, and I had to receive 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.879 the award because Jada couldn't be there, so you have 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.600 to speak. Yeah, it looks great. I needed to be 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.320 in something that was going to be comfortable because I 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.760 knew I was gonna be nervous. Yeah, and I like 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.200 that it was a Matt finish too that it wasn't. Yeah, 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.159 it was very forgiving. Yeah. Another thing you want to 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.240 avoid things, you know, women when their body you know 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.480 they're under construction or their body fluctuating. You want to 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.320 avoid things with shine because it only adds brings attention 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.280 to the problematic areas. And not to say that you 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.360 have any, but it was really kind of funny forgetting 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.600 it was Matt. It was you know, it definitely glamouflage 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.520 and he sell you lied and he you know, palffiness 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.560 you made. The rouging in the waistline was great to 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.480 create a smaller weight, the appearance of a smaller waist, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.760 giving you more of a curve your body, more of 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.720 a coke shaped bottle body, which was great. So you did. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.000 And I think that people make the wrong assumption too, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.440 is that when you're small, because you brought up cell 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.879 you like when you're small, there are no body issues. 0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.959 And it's that's right. I have a ton of cellulite 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.120 on my legs as that. It just gets worse as 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.800 I get and they say it's hereditary too. Yes, yes, yes, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.840 that's what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.560 Let's go back to timeless. In the closet. We talked 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.360 about like a white shirt. We talked a lot of blazer. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.600 We didn't talk about laser shooting, you know, whether it's 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.440 finding that perfect silhouette, you know, like that high waister trouser, 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.080 whether you're you know, depending on your body type. You know, 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.199 if you're a little bit more on the pear shaped side, 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.639 you want to probably not do the pencil trouser and 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.520 do the more full led trousers. It's more flattering, um, 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.879 if you know. Like but just also a blazer that 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.080 gives you the waist a waistline, whether it's a one 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.320 button or a two button. Um and and again it 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.680 all it really depends on your on your body type. Um, 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.240 but I'm I'm a fan of having you just need 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.320 to have it in the closet. It's just me like 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:59.359 an essential. Another essential I feel is you know, just 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.080 we talked to about leggings, you know, not wearing your 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:07.080 leggings in the traditional way, you know, and especially you know, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.320 a lot of us have taken on very kind of 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.879 laid back lifestyles because of what's going on in the 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:17.639 country with this pandemic. You're you know, you're not sitting 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.840 at a zoom full on you know what I mean. 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.840 You're not even buying shoes as much. You're not even 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.080 thinking about beds as much. There's certain things you're not 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.160 thinking about as much. But doesn't mean that you don't 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.520 want to get up, you know and throw on something 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.680 a beautiful like easy dress, or throw on your sweats 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.600 and how do you make your sweat so cool? You 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.320 can put your sweats on with your blazer, you know, 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:44.080 like we take it out of context. I've worn Oh yes, yes, yes, 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.840