1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is Hot 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Pursuit coming up on today's podcast, get Ready to hear 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Me gush about trucks. I had a chance to sit 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: down with the global VP of GMC and Buick, Jacqueline McQuaid, 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: a fascinating interview about growing up in Detroit, about learning 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: to drive with a suburban, about basically taking over general 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: knows me short of being CEO and president, She's done 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: pretty much everything. And I got to drive the new 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: GMC Sierra ev at four Max range, which is gigantic 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: and super luxurious. But first, are you working on something 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: in particular? 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: Hannah? 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Currently this week, I had a great chance to sit 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: down with Adrian von HOYDNK, who's the head of design 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: for BMW, and talk about their new IX three. It's 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: part of their Noya Classic maybe you can say that 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: better at German uh okay good their new series of 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. And he was really interesting. And then you know, 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: tonight Bentley is going to be unveiling a very exciting 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: car that I think you're gonna love. Matt, So I've 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: been talking a lot with Bentley this week in anticipation 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: of this debut, which I think we can talk about 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: because by the time this Ronsie embargo will have lifted. 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so. And also we will have talked 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: to Frank Stefan Balliser because you booked the CEO of 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: Bentlee and obviously famous for having worked at Portia where 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: he designed the nine eighteen. By the way, I just 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: googled the nine eighteen to look at it for a 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: little while and it's still so gorgeous. 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: It's right. 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: I every time I see those guys, I feel like 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: this pest. But I'm like, when are we going to 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: see something like the nine to eighteen again? Likering bring 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: us something like that? 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Not at Bentley, right, I mean no. 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: No, but let's not forget. And obviously, as you know, 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Frank comes straight from Porsche Motorsport to us, and he's 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: already leaving his fingerprints on Bentley and with this new vehicle. 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: And we can go into it now if we want. 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: This is Bentley's new supersports. You'll be very happy to hear. 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: It's rear wheel drive V eight non hybrid, pure internal 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: combustion engine, over six hundred and fifty horse power, it's 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: a real screamer. I think I haven't driven it, but 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I think we want it to be. 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: And I think what you're what you're seeing is Frank 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: sort of injecting Bentley with some of that Porsche Motorsport stuff. 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, thank you for booking him 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: on my television show, and we'll do that interview. So 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: by the time this comes out, we will have been 51 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: on internationally broadcast live television together, no big deal and 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: a deep tease. Next week we're gonna have him on 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: the podcast. So that's cool. But just to go into 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: what they're showing you tonight, I'm excited about it because supersport, 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: because V eight, because for a real world drive, for 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: all the reasons you mentioned. But this isn't I mean, 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: he just signed up, so it's not like this is 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: the Frank Stefan Wallaser car yet. No, so he hasn't 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: had time. It takes a few years at least to 60 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: put a car from pen and paper to you know, 61 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: iron and resin, so it's gonna be a while. 62 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Completely this is we should actually Frank time flies. Frank 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: started in twenty twenty four e Bentley, so he's been. 64 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: He's been I think it was July July or August 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so Frank's been with Bentley. But you're right, 66 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: this is a really big ship to turn, as you know, 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the life cycles of cars are multiple years long, and 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's going to take time. I think he's 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: you know, uh, taking the long view as our German 70 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: friends typically do, which is good and you know, I 71 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear more from him. We should say 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: we are recording this podcast on Thursday afternoon. The event, 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: the reveal event is tonight Thursday night, and then we're 74 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: going to talk to Frank tomorrow on TV on Friday, 75 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: and then the podcast will go live after that. So 76 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: we've got to we've got to get our chronology straight 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: for everything we're talking about here. 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think. 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: It's this is like the first little taste of what 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: This is an indication of where Bentley wants to be going. 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 4: I think that's the best way to read it. 82 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: This is an intent from them to basically say, you know, 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: they're still going to do VDA, They're still going to 84 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: do an internal combustion, so going to make cars that 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: you're going to want to drive. The rear wheel drive alone, 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: I think is exciting. It's the first time we've seen 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: on a supersports. All of those are indicators about where 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the company intends to go. 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I hope, well, I mean, he's the 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: industry genius, and I'm just a guy who looks at 91 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: cars on the Internet and stuff. But I hope apropos 92 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: your story for pursuits a couple of weeks ago that 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: they simplify things a little bit or they continue to 94 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: because everything that I drive, but certainly also the Bentley's 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: that they're coming out with now, they're so complicated, right, 96 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: and so much works through the screen, the infotainment system, 97 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: and they have all these turbochargers and all wheel drive 98 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: systems and automatic transmissions, and it's just like, I really 99 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: have this urge to go back to the basics. That's 100 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: why I'm fretting over this air cooled nine to eleven 101 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: search that I've talk about it as I. 102 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Am now taking up for you, Matt, because I'm hearing 103 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: about your search from my people in my circle who 104 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: are trying to get to you and tell you what 105 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: they think through me, which is a whole other thing. 106 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: But just to your point, about the technology. You know, 107 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Bentley's not alone in this. And going back to the 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: time I spent with BMW and Adrian on Hoydank this 109 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: week in la at their design studio in Santa Monica, 110 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Adrian was making the same point, and Bentley has this 111 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: thing that they call shy tech, which is their phrase 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: for technology that doesn't get in the way of living 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: and enjoying. And they are supremely aware that not all 114 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: new tech is necessary or necessarily welcomed by consumers. So 115 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: it is interesting to see with this I x three 116 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: that they debuted, it is scaled back from just greens 117 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: everywhere and nothing tangible. They do have like tactile points 118 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in the car because they're realizing what you say, which 119 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: is there needs to be some sort of communication between 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: the car and the human that does not involve just 121 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: a screen basically. So it's it's fascinating to think about. 122 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just I think it's gone overboard 123 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of manufacturers are trying to turn it around. 124 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: And to your point, it's a huge tanker, right, you 125 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: can't turn it around the same way you would a 126 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: sunfish like I was as a case in point, I 127 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: was driving a range Rover Sport last week, the SV, 128 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: which is an amazing power plant I think, you know, 129 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: in collaboration with the BMW now, but and an incredibly 130 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: luxurious vehicle. The design is not necessarily to my taste. 131 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: I like the full blooded range Rover rather than the Sport. 132 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: But this thing is you know, expensive, and it's got 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: a lot of real leather and wood in it and 134 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: carbon carbon fiber wheels on this SB and it's fast 135 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: and it handles well. The biggest problem I had was 136 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: the enfotainment system. Like everything including the HVAC was through 137 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: the screen. You couldn't you couldn't change any of that stuff. 138 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: And the enfotainment system is the last thing I want 139 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: to worry about. It's the last thing I want to 140 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: care about. I would rather buy a car that doesn't 141 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: have one, you know, And that's you know, what I'm 142 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: working on doing right now. But I'm sure that the 143 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: people at land Rover, just like the people at probably 144 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: at Bentley, at Porschet, Mercedes everywhere BMW, want to reverse 145 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: that trend because they realize the pendulum has swung too far. 146 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: And of course you're gonna want to sell everyone's gonna 147 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: want a navigation system or most people will want one, 148 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to have a screen, but you 149 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: want to have a volume knob, you want to have 150 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: HVAC controls, you want to be able to quickly push 151 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: a button for something like I don't know a camera system. 152 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, and here's here's some one of the challenges 153 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: and part of the problem I think why they get 154 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: tripped up. Buyers in China are very happy to have 155 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: their cars. Basically like computers. They do not have the 156 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: same feelings necessarily in general, that we have about wanting 157 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: some sort of tactile engagement. And for a long time, 158 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: automakers thought China was the future for their company, so 159 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: they created they started creating cars that were geared toward 160 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: consumers who appreciated their car like they might appreciate a 161 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: video game console with it, but like interfacing with the 162 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: video game. Now that China has proven to be a 163 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: very very tough nut to crack and to compete with, 164 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: especially for automakers like BMW and Mercedes and Portia, now 165 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: they're kind of like reh having to rethink all of 166 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: that because buyers are different in China, and if China's 167 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: not going to be this cash cow that they thought 168 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: it was now what you know, So I still there's 169 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of indecision and uncertainty about 170 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: how to pivot from here their experience. 171 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting that you mentioned that the video game thing, 172 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: because in my deep dive on all things nine to eleven, 173 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: I've read a lot about engineers designing the electronic assist 174 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: steering system for the nine to nine one generation, which 175 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: is when they went away from the hydraulic assist rack 176 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: and pinion, and the biggest concern was that it would 177 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: feel like a video game. So they wanted to get 178 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: it right in terms of still having that real connection 179 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: with the road feeling, and I think they did a 180 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: pretty good job of that. We're going to take a 181 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: quick break. We come back. We'll talk about my search 182 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: for a new nine to eleven, although I obviously want 183 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: probably a very old one, and we'll talk about the 184 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: person behind some of my all time favorite trucks, my 185 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: one on one with GMC Global VP Jacquelin McQuaid. That's 186 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: all coming up right after this. I'm Matt Miller along 187 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: with Hannah Elliott. You're listening to Hot Pursuit. So when 188 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: I was growing up Audi and Porsche for the same dealership, 189 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: just to make a little segue here. And you know, 190 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: as I said, my dad had an Audi, but we 191 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: would go to dealership and I would lust over these Porschas, 192 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: and I guess they must have been Carrera three point 193 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: two's that generation, you know, early eighties kind of thing. 194 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: And so I don't know what spurred it, but I 195 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: got really interested as we talked about last week in 196 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: this America Roadster, which is a nine to sixty four 197 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: on bring a trailer last week, and then it went 198 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: for what I felt like was a too cheap of 199 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: a price. And then that got me thinking, like why 200 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: don't I have an air cooled nine to eleven? Like 201 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: why have I never experienced this thing? And I've always 202 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: kind of made fun of these leftka cooled people, like 203 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: this this cult right around air cooled. 204 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: And the left of Coult. 205 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: It's really a cult, right because you watched the YouTube 206 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: videos and these guys like not only did I get 207 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: a great car, but I landed a great group of friends, 208 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: and like, I've met so many people through this car. 209 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: That's the That's not what I want to do with 210 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: a car, you know, I want to drive it, but 211 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: I want to hear it, and I want to smell it, 212 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: and I want to feel it, and I want to 213 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: be a little bit scared. And I don't know why 214 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: I've never really checked them out, Like when I did 215 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: buy a nine to eleven ten years ago, but I 216 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: immediately went for the newest model for the nine to 217 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: nine to one, which I absolutely loved and I never 218 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: had any mechanical problems. It was so reliable, so fast, 219 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: handled so well. But I want something that's a little 220 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit less reliable, not quite as fast, 221 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: and it doesn't it's a little more dangerous. 222 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: That sounds funny me. 223 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I have to say that 224 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: the love of as you know, air cooled Porsche's existed 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: far before lefticle. The difference is that the guys driving 226 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: in were like the our group guys out in California, 227 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: who were these grizzled old dudes who were like die 228 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: hard not cool old guys. And those guys were actually cool. 229 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: They were so uncool they were not they were cool. 230 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, all of that existed before all of the 231 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: hipsters came. And you know, so like I like the 232 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: idea of tapping into that, like the pre leftical like 233 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: die hard love of it, which was cool, and those 234 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: guys didn't care about it. They weren't creating content with 235 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: their cars. They they they didn't you know, they didn't 236 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: even have cell phones. They were just out driving. Yeah no, 237 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: like that's actually like legit and og and very cool. 238 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: So like I totally agree with that. I have to 239 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: say I did get an earful from our our bosom buddy, 240 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Steve Serio, who had to tell me that the car 241 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: that got away your moby Dick, he read through it 242 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: and it had been in an accident and that may 243 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: have led to the reduced price. 244 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that I. 245 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Have particular vehicle might not have been as great as 246 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: you thought. 247 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: That's true, and I hope I can find one for 248 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: less money, because I don't want to necessarily pay that much. 249 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: I will say in terms of accident cars, because I'm 250 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: now I'm looking at literally every car that's for sale, 251 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: literally every Pea car. My nine to eleven that I 252 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: had for almost ten years. I also had got into 253 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: an accident. A truck ran into my left ear quarter 254 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: panel when I was parked, and it resulted only in 255 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, a big old dent which I immediately had 256 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: repaired with all original parts from Stuttgart and at the 257 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Porsche dealer, so which was an expensive endeavor. But by 258 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: the time I went to sell it, it obviously had 259 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: the accident on It's on the car facts or whatever 260 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: you call it, and that made me think, like, I'm 261 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: not going to avoid all cars of it into an 262 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: accident because a lot of cars have been in accidents 263 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean there's frame damage or you. 264 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, if if it's 265 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: not I was going to say, if it's not something 266 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: that you're hoping that is an investment, oh, I don't care. 267 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: But then but yeah, because every racing car has been 268 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: in multiple incidents and you know, it's like whatever, I'm 269 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of with you on that. And I should also 270 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: say both Steve and then one of our readers or listeners. 271 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: Don Don is an amazing resource. He's already proven an 272 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: amazing resource. 273 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well he of course, now they're sending I 274 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: know you saw it additional America roadsters that I think 275 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: we all are rooting for you, Like now I'm having 276 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: feel these things on behalf of you. 277 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. 278 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: They're so much good. 279 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: There's so much goodwill for you finding one. 280 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know what the thing is that I've realized 281 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: probably one of the reasons that people get so into 282 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: this and so obsessed is because there's so much there. 283 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: And of course part of the joy of U of 284 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: cars is the chase. Right, So now I'm like, maybe 285 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: these are expensive, these nine to six fours. Maybe I 286 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: want an sc which are maybe a little more you know, affordable, 287 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: Or maybe I want a Carrera three point two because 288 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: it has that classic look that I fell in love with. 289 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Or maybe I even want a nine to nine three 290 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: because it's the end of the line, although I don't 291 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: like the way the head lamps slide by. And then 292 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: I start thinking about, oh, the early ones have torsion suspension, 293 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: then they got coil over shocks, and the early ones 294 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: have totally direct steering. Later you get a hydraulic assist, 295 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: and there's so many variables that there's like a million 296 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: things to learn and sink your teeth into. This is 297 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: all just to say, I kind of wanted to pitch 298 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: our list listeners on if we did a whole show 299 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: that was just a buyer's guide, a nine to eleven 300 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: buyer's guide with someone who knows a lot of stuff, 301 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: like Steve Cirio, or maybe Magnus would join us, or 302 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: maybe this guy Nathan Mertz, Like I wonder if people 303 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: would care, would want to listen to that. 304 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure they would, And I think we should do 305 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: it with you know whatever expert. Maybe we get a multiple, 306 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe we have multiple, maybe we I don't know how 307 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: we do it, but sounds great to me. I think 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: you're right, right and tell us everybody like hot Pursuit 309 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot net. 310 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 4: I think you're right and we should do it. 311 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. Should I buy 312 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: a car with a nine to fifteen transmission? Or do 313 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: I have to have the G fifty? Okay, that's enough 314 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: of that. We are going to talk about other automakers 315 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: because I did get to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid 316 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: and I did get to talk with her about she 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: is such a truck person, but also like she's an engineer, 318 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: she's worked in and paint. She oh, she was in 319 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: charge of making the Cadillac Escalade V. 320 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: Cool. 321 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: So she made probably, I mean, my favorite SUV. I 322 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: don't know if it's I haven't thought about it long 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: enough to say, of all time, but that is a 324 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: behemoth with a super charged American V eight like I 325 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: love it. And she's run Europe, you know, so she's 326 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: run entire continental businesses for them, and now she's back 327 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: home at GMC. We'll check out my interview right after 328 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: this Welcome back to Bloomberg Hot Pursuit. I had a 329 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: chance to sit down with Jacqueline McQuaid, who is a 330 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: lifelong Michigander. She even has two degrees from the University 331 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: of Michigan, which you know that, Hannah. I am an 332 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Ohio State fan, so it's kind of hard so. 333 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: To talk to her. 334 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: It's so weird because I love to go to Detroit. 335 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: I love to talk to people in the car industry, 336 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: in the American car industry, and they inevitably went to 337 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: U of M or they're Spartys, and I prefer the latter, 338 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: but as is someone from Ohio. You know, there's an 339 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: old story of the OSU football team driving back from 340 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: ann Arbor to Columbus after a game and they ran 341 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: out of gas and Woody the coach made them get 342 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: out and push because they were close enough to the 343 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: border where they could buy Ohio Gas rather than Michigan Gas. 344 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not true. 345 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 4: But I hope it is true. 346 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: I love that anyway. Jacqueline is awesome, and to be fair, 347 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: Michigan has won against Ohio State for the last four 348 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: years in a row, but that's coming to an end 349 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: this year. She is an engineer. She has worked in purchasing, 350 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: she has worked in product. I mentioned that she ran 351 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: the Cadillac Escalade V product and she ran the continent 352 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: of Europe. Now she is the global VP of GMC 353 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: and Buick. Let's listen into my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid. Jacqueline, 354 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: first of all, thank you so much for joining us. 355 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: It's a real pleasure to have you. You have an 356 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: incredible resume, but it's all at one company. It's all 357 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: at General Motors pretty much, right, because you started there 358 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: straight out of University of Michigan and have done everything 359 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: from interning at paint shop as far as I know, 360 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 2: to running a continent. So tell us about your journey, 361 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: like how you got started there to begin with. 362 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's literally been all at General Motors. You're absolutely right. 363 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: I started before I graduated from your University of Michigan. 364 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: I started as an intern, so your data is accurate. 365 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 5: I was an intern in paint engineering back when I 366 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: was GOSH. Summer after sophomore year of college, I interned 367 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: with GM so I did one summer in paint engineering, 368 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 5: which was actually really fascinating. They tend to hire more 369 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: chemical engineers and I was mechanical. But when you think 370 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: about what the design studio does to come up with 371 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 5: these really unique colors, and our design studio, they're watching 372 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 5: New York Fashion Week, They're following European fashion. They're really 373 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: projecting fashion into automobiles. When you think about interior and 374 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: exterior design, and exterior color is something that just gives 375 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: an impression of a vehicle when you first see it 376 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: on a lot or driving down the road. So there's 377 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: a lot of design work that goes into that. Paint 378 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 5: engineering then gets the task of actually creating that color 379 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: and creating it in a way that's color fast and 380 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 5: that can match across different mediums as you're painting from 381 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: the vehicle body to maybe the fender, etc. 382 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: And it was fascinating. 383 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: I had no idea that that even existed when I 384 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: went to u OF I'm getting a mechanical engineering degree 385 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: with an emphasis and automotive. So it ended up not 386 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: being maybe where I wanted to take my career, but 387 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 5: it was really an interesting in place to start with 388 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: general motors. 389 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to spend too much time 390 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: on paint because you have gone from engineering to product 391 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: purchasing to as I said, you know, continental leadership, but 392 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: I find it fascinating as well, and just having spent 393 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: time on a factory floor, Like the amount of space 394 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: that paint takes up, you know, compared to everything else, 395 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: is pretty substantial, and it's a pretty important part of 396 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: buying a car. When you see a vehicle that speaks 397 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: to you a lot of times it's the color and 398 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: the quality of the paint I think as someone who 399 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: cares a lot about cars, is important. And you can 400 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: also see changes through different periods of time, like sometimes 401 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: for some reason, the public only wants grays and black 402 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: and white, and sometimes like GM now is making crazy 403 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: purples and oranges. And even on the conservative I would say, 404 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: you know, trucks are more conservative than say a corvette, right, 405 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: But even on the trucks that you make, you have 406 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: these greens and these smoky blues, how have you noticed 407 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: the demand changing over time for what people want in 408 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: terms of paint colors. 409 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, 410 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 5: a vehicle is a very emotional purchase. You got people 411 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: that love their vehicles. You've got people that name their vehicles. 412 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 5: My daughter would hug her vehicles, she just loved it. 413 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 5: And so these are emotional purchases. And it really starts 414 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: with how does a vehicle make you feel when you 415 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 5: first see it? 416 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: And the paint color has a lot to do with that. 417 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 5: Obviously the styling next to your styling does as well. 418 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 5: We could talk a lot about the new Buig styling 419 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: with the Wildcat concept vehicle that is now flowing through 420 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 5: to the entire lineup. But it is an emotional purchase. 421 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 5: It should make you feel something. If it doesn't, you 422 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: pick the wrong vehicle. And it starts with the paint. 423 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 5: It really does. And now you've got these Mate paint 424 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: colors that are all the rage, and you go out 425 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: a factory zero and you look at what we're doing 426 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 5: in the hummer and we're painting these Mate paints. Actually, 427 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 5: funny enough, when I first started summer of nineteen ninety 428 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 5: eight as an intern in paint engineering. I was at 429 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: Detroit hand Tranmic Assembly, which is now Factory zero, where 430 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time now as a VP 431 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 5: of GMC. So my careers kind of come full circle 432 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 5: back to that same manufacturing plant, albeit completely read on 433 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 5: now that it's building electric vehicles, but it really the 434 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 5: vehicle should make you feel something emotionally when you see it, 435 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: and if it doesn't, you should keep looking. 436 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: So all right, paint, I think is really cool, and 437 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: you obviously do a fantastic job of it there. But 438 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: what did you move to next? Did you go to 439 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: purchasing next? Did you go to product? 440 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: No? 441 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Purchasing? Right? 442 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 5: Well, so I started when I hired in full time, 443 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: I hired it into engineering, and I spent the first 444 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: thirteen years and a lot of different engineering fields. So 445 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: my engineering degree both masters and bachelor's as a mechanical 446 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 5: So I started in a space called roadload data acquisition. 447 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 5: So effectively, you are instrumenting the vehicle with all different transducers, 448 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 5: load cells, LVDTs, accelerometers, et cetera, and you're taking the 449 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 5: vehicle out on test roads and you're seeing how is 450 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: the vehicle responding when it's going over different road surfaces, 451 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 5: when it's going through a pothole, when it's going over 452 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 5: Belgian blocks, or it's doing you know, extreme turning maneuvers. 453 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 5: How is it flexing? Where are the stress points in 454 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: the frame? How are you engineering the right failure mode 455 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: so that it fails safely? And so I spent a 456 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: couple of years doing that, And I would say while 457 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: getting an engineering degree from Michigan was great, it was 458 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: really GM that taught me how to engineer a vehicle. 459 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 5: Those first couple of years working in roadload data acquisition 460 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 5: gave me such in depth understanding of vehicle dynamics and 461 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 5: how to engineer a vehicle for the type of vehicle 462 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: feel and ride dynamics that General Motors wants. And we 463 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 5: have a va I would say, unique way of integrating 464 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 5: our vehicles. And when you're driving a GM vehicle, you 465 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 5: know that you are in one. And whether that's as 466 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 5: Chevy feels like a Chevy, Buick feels like a Buick, 467 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 5: a Cadillac feels like a Cadillac. We definitely have a 468 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: dynamic approach to our vehicles. And so I spent time there. 469 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: I went from there to vehicle dynamics, to right and 470 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: handling I spent time and noise and vibration. I released 471 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: components for the vehicle exhaust systems on full sized trucks. 472 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 5: I worked in Tyron wheel Systems. I was an engineering 473 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: group manager and breaks. So all of my engineering background 474 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: was very chassis based and very vehicle dynamics based, and 475 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: I did that for about thirteen years, and then I 476 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: went over to purchasing. 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: So all right, well, this is a I want to 478 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: talk about the rest of your career, but this is 479 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: a perfect time to talk about because of that experience 480 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: my week in the Sierra EV I had the max 481 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: range eighty four last week, and I was absolutely blown 482 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: away by the effortless feel of the throttle because it's 483 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: obviously a very heavy vehicle. I don't know how much 484 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: it weighs, but maybe nine thousand pounds, right, And previously, 485 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: my favorite truck, as I told you, we had lunch 486 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago here in New York, and 487 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: I told you my favorite vehicle was the Chevy Silverado, 488 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: the H the twenty five D, the HD ZR two 489 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: that had the six point six Leader Diesel V eight, 490 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: Because that power train just feels like it motivates any 491 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: kind of weight in a Rolls Royce like luxurious way, 492 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: and this I thought was even better. I don't know, 493 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: because of the instant torque, because of the massive power. 494 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: It was just more than adequate. And I never cared 495 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: really about the numbers. I don't even know what the 496 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: horsepower and torque is, but I'm sure they're mind blowing. 497 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: The other thing I noticed about that truck beyond the 498 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: luxury stuff that you guys have put inside, and honestly, 499 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: I was thinking of I was thinking of comparisons I 500 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: always do to Rolls Royce because that was the first, 501 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: like amazing luxury ride I ever had. And even the 502 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: stitching the fabric that you guys do in this truck 503 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: is like su super elite in a way, you know, 504 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: like it's almost an art, a work of art. And 505 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not handmade, but it looks like it 506 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: could be. And then and then I noticed the NVH 507 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: is flawless. And I've driven a lot of other I've 508 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: driven other companies, let's say big EV trucks, and the 509 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: NVH is not flawless. So you guys have done something 510 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: that I don't think anyone else has achieved. And I 511 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: haven't even gotten to the range yet, right, because it's 512 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: over four hundred miles. I have to say, you must 513 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: be proud of that vehicle. 514 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, super proud of that vehicle. So I'm glad to 515 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: hear you were in the eight four. That's actually my 516 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 5: daily driver. So I'm in a cer EV eight four, 517 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: So I understand exactly what you're saying and completely agree. 518 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: It really comes down to the initial engineering of the vehicle. 519 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: When we set out to do an electric truck, we said, okay, 520 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: we're going to do it right, and we're going to 521 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: do purpose built electric truck from the ground up. And 522 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 5: when you do that, you can engineer in the dynamics 523 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: and the NVA to the vehicle from the beginning. So 524 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: you get the batteries down low, you create a really 525 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: low center of gravity. The way that truck handles for 526 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 5: a vehicle that large, the way it handles, the. 527 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: Vehicle dynamics of it. 528 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible because we've really created the structure of 529 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: the vehicle using the batteries. They weren't an afterthought, They 530 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: actually create the vehicle structure, and so you've got great 531 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: structure to it. 532 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: As a result of that. This truck zero to sixty 533 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: and like four point five seconds. 534 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 5: It's crazy moving that much masks, but it was engineered 535 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 5: to do that. And then from an MVH perspective, when 536 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: you think about an electric vehicle, and I spent a 537 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 5: lot of years doing NVH at GM. I did it 538 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: for over four years here, all on full sized truck. 539 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: You think that when you do an electric vehicle, you're 540 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: doing something great because you're taking all that engine noise out. 541 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: The reality is, engine noise masks a lot of other noises, 542 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: and when you take that engine noise out, you have 543 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 5: the risk of other noises popping up if you've not 544 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 5: correctly engineered and integrated that vehicle to co at it 545 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: for the lack of that masking noise that the engine 546 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 5: naturally provides. We went into the engineering of this truck 547 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: understanding that, and we integrated the entire system to work 548 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 5: together for an electric propulsion system. 549 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: It's a great point because I've driven so many evs 550 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: where because there's no engine noise. This is exactly what 551 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: you said, but I'll give you my version. I can 552 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: hear all the rattles and squeaks right if the headliner 553 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: isn't aligned perfectly, or the glove box is shaking. You know, 554 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: I always put baby seats in the back because I 555 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: have little kids. Everything, you hear everything, and there was 556 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: absolutely none of that in this truck. The handling I 557 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: thought defied physics. I don't know how much. I don't 558 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: know if you'll tell me how much of ways, but 559 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: I imagine it's nine thousand pounds. And I also thought 560 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: the breaking feel was perfect, which is something that's tough 561 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: to get right on an EV because you're trying to engine, 562 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: you're trying to do region right, you're trying to help 563 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 2: add back to the battery. So did you guys win 564 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: to words for this vehicle? I mean, I don't read 565 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: the industry press that much, but I imagine you must have 566 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: gotten accolades for it. 567 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a lot of accolades. 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: There have been, you know, a lot of publications that 569 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 5: have tested this vehicle. When you look at what we 570 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: put out as the max range, which is what you 571 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 5: were driving, which is what I drive every day, it's 572 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: four hundred and seventy eight miles, is what we publish. 573 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 5: But we have had so many, so many industry professionals 574 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: get in it and take it for rides and get 575 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 5: far in excess of that. It really depends on, you know, 576 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: what your driving type is. Obviously, for an electric vehicle, 577 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 5: because of regen braking, as you said, your fuel economy 578 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 5: is actually better and sort of stop and go city 579 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: type traffic, which is completely contrary to an internal combustion 580 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: engine where you want to be an expressway the whole 581 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: way right, but you don't get regen braking there. So 582 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: depending on how you're driving the vehicle, what range you get. 583 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 5: But you have to remember GMC is really the only 584 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: truly premium truck and suv brand out there, and you 585 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 5: look across every time truck and as you rebrand, it 586 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 5: is truly truly premium. 587 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: And so that has to flow into everything we do, Matt. 588 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: That's got to flow into the vehicle dynamics, it's got 589 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: to flow into the break and throttle field. It's got 590 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 5: to flow into the interior and how we do fit 591 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 5: and finish and how we craft it. Because when we 592 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: say it's premium, our customers are going to expect that 593 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: in every facet of the vehicle, and it's up just 594 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 5: to deliver that. 595 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: I did think and I hope I don't get in 596 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: trouble for saying this, but I thought it was better 597 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: than you in your internal rivals, like the Escalade I 598 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: think is the escalade IQ is. I love the shape, 599 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: I love the look, the design. It doesn't handle as 600 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: well as the Sierra, and at least in my experience 601 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: I've driven it twice. I don't know why that is. 602 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: Is it harder to build a three to row version? 603 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: Is there something inherently easier about building a pickup truck? 604 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: Is it separated like the old pickup trucks? Like could 605 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: you take off the bed and replace it with something else? 606 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: Or is it all one piece? 607 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's just a different dynamic, right, You've 608 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 5: got the bed and you've got the box that are 609 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: going to be flexing as opposed to know, an suv 610 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: with three rows that's going to be all one body structure. 611 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: So there's certainly a different way that you're going to 612 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: tune it. 613 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: You've got your cab mounts and your box mounts that 614 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: are going to be done a little bit differently when 615 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: you've got the split. 616 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: It's just about really how you tune it. I'm GMC biased. 617 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: I learned how to drive it an eighty two GMC 618 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 5: suburban back in the day that was when GMC had 619 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: the suburban name plate as well as Chevy. So I've 620 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: been a GMC fan as long as I can remember. 621 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 5: It's so somebody asks me, I'm going to say I 622 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: love the GMCC or above all else. It's nice to 623 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: hear you say that as well as an independent third party. 624 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: I'm I'm partial to. 625 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: It, do you? I mean, let's talk about that, because 626 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to pigeonhole you as a truck person. 627 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: But you started driving trucks when you were a kid, 628 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: and does your family, do your friends are they are they? Like? 629 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: I knew you would do something like this because you 630 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: were into it back then, and now you're actually designing them. 631 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad would have said that. He would he 632 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 5: would not be surprised at all. We lost him a 633 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 5: few years ago, but if you were alive today, he 634 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 5: would say he would not be surprised at all. I've 635 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: always loved trucks when I first came to General Motors, 636 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 5: and I got to start working on trucks pretty early 637 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: on in my career, probably about three years in I 638 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 5: started working on trucks and I've. 639 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 3: Really never looked back. 640 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 5: And that's the thing with the truck organization here, when 641 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 5: they find you and they love you, they kind of 642 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 5: tend to hold on to you, which has been great 643 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 5: for me because I've loved it. And my aspiration early 644 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 5: in my career was to be chief engineer for full 645 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 5: size truck and I reached that goal when I became 646 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 5: the chief engineer for the heavy duty truck. And that 647 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: was back in gosh, twenty sixteen, and I thought, well, shoot, 648 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 5: now what, I still have a long way to go. 649 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 5: And then I moved on from that to executive chief 650 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: engineer of mid sized truck and then executive chief engine 651 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: and you're a full sized truck. And then I'm kind 652 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: of looking around saying, gosh, I'm like forty four and 653 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 5: forty five and I've hit the pinnacle. I better figure 654 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 5: out a new pinnacle. And that's what then took me 655 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: to Europe to run General Motors Europe for a couple 656 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 5: of years and brought me over here to run. 657 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: Buwick and GMC. 658 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 5: But but leading the truck organization was absolutely a highlight 659 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 5: of my career because you know, I am a truck person. 660 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: I've driven trucks my entire life and I will continue to. 661 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 3: It's just what I love. 662 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask what it's like to grow up 663 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: in Michigan because I love to go to Detroit. As 664 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: a car person, I feel at home there, you know, 665 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: being a journalist in New York City, like nobody I 666 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: ever talked to cares about cars here. And I grew 667 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: up in Ohio, which is we're better at football, but 668 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: not quite as we have that debate, not quite as 669 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: Steveton automotive tradition. So what's it like to grow around? 670 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: Grow up around like everybody's a car person where you live? Right? 671 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: I mean I imagine from elementary school through you two 672 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: of them, you do the engineering and master's program at GM, 673 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: like everybody you talk to cares. 674 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a unique space. I mean obviously for 675 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: me growing up, it didn't feel unique. It was just 676 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 3: what I knew. 677 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: And if you're somebody who's mechanically inclined, and I grew up, 678 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: I just wanted to know how everything worked. I would 679 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: just I would tear things apart just to try to 680 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: put them back together. Or something at home broke, my 681 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 5: dad would tell my mom, don't fix it, Let's see 682 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 5: what Jaqueline can do with it. That's just something that 683 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: I've always loved and so automotive was so natural for me, 684 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: and I was around people with a passion for automotive. 685 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: You know. 686 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 3: I wasn't the type. 687 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 5: Personally that was wrenching on cars in the driveway, probably 688 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 5: because my dad wasn't a wrencher, and so we just 689 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 5: sort of didn't do that. I just had an interest 690 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 5: for the industry and I fell in love with it 691 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 5: even more in college, and then when I came to 692 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: General Motors that really solidified it. But I was around 693 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 5: people all the time that had this passion for automotive 694 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: as well. Now, as I work in this industry and 695 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 5: I start getting around, I realize it's just not that 696 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 5: way everywhere else in the country, And I think it's 697 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 5: just such a unique culture we have here in Detroit. 698 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: And I'm super proud to be from Detroit. I'm super 699 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 5: proud to still be living in the suburb of Detroit. 700 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 5: Detroit has really reinvented itself over these last several decades. 701 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: It's a city I'd be incredibly proud to take anyone 702 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 5: to when they come to visit. It's just it's a 703 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: really great automotive town. 704 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: Is there a car or a truck you mentioned the 705 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: eighty two suburban that evokes in you a real feeling 706 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: of not only nostalgia but desire, like do you do 707 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: you want to get one of those and restore it 708 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: and put it in your garage? Or do you have 709 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: a weekend driver that you really love? 710 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 5: You know, I would love to get I was actually 711 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: going back not too long ago, a few years ago 712 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 5: with my sisters. We were trying to find a picture 713 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: of that old suburban. We all learned how to drive 714 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 5: on it, and we're all trying to find a picture 715 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 5: of it, and we couldn't. I love to get one, 716 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 5: and just because it does bring back just such great memories. 717 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 5: I'm one of four daughters and we all trick our 718 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 5: turns learning how to drive on that beast. And it 719 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: was I tell you, what, if you can park in 720 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: a high school parking lot in that, you're done. 721 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: You're good. 722 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: You can drive anything. 723 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: You're good, you can drive. 724 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 5: You can drive anything, which is why both of my 725 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: kids learned how to drive on full sized trucks. 726 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: Is there is there a vehicle Jacqueline that you have 727 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: engineered in your head, or something that you want to 728 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: make that that you don't like, a project that you 729 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: have a dream about accomplishing in terms of engineering, because 730 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: I imagine as an engineer you always think up cool quirky 731 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: suspension systems or power trains or I don't know what 732 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 2: because I'm not an engineer, but well, I mean, we. 733 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 5: Always want to push the boundaries, right, That's what engineers, 734 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 5: that's what we should do. We should always innovate, we 735 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 5: should always take it to the next level. We should 736 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 5: always see how far we can push it and then 737 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 5: see if we can go a little bit farther. When 738 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 5: I was the executive chief engineer of full sized truck, 739 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 5: the most fun I had. 740 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: Was the escalat V. 741 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 5: I got to be the ECP for that, and you know, 742 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 5: I mean like taking the LT four, taking that taking 743 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: that CT five black wing engine and putting it into 744 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 5: an escalade and then everything you do to make it work, 745 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 5: from the suspension and the body mounts to the equal 746 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 5: length exhaust to give the right noise tuning. Because like 747 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 5: I said, I'm an MVH person, so that was super 748 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 5: important to me to get that throaty growl and the 749 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 5: pops and gurgles exactly the way. 750 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: We wanted it. 751 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: That was something that I can step back and say Wow, 752 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 5: what a passion project. And I think full sized truck 753 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 5: in general is just one of those segments that people 754 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 5: have a ton of passion around. I see people driving 755 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 5: those twenty five and thirty five hundred hds with to 756 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 5: your point, the six to six leader diesel, and you do. 757 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: They're just smiling as they're driving these trucks and towing 758 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 5: thirty five thousand pounds behind them, and so just that's 759 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 5: what I love about it. And okay, now where can 760 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 5: we push it? What's the next level of towing, capability, 761 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 5: of horsepower, of torque of you know, of zero to 762 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: sixty time, you know, in an escalade for crying out loud, 763 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 5: taking an escalade zero to sixty and four and a 764 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 5: half seconds. 765 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, So that's what I get to do, Matt. 766 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm I have a lot of respect for 767 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 2: what you do. And of course the products that you 768 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: make are among my very favorite products in the automotive world. 769 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: So I love the escalade V. It's just bonkers. And 770 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: all right, Jacqueline, what's next? What's next for you? Right now? 771 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 5: I'm having a lot of fun running Buick and GMC. 772 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 5: Both brands are doing great. Buick is growing like crazy, 773 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 5: fastest growing mainstream brand right now. Super proud of what 774 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 5: that brand has done and the products in its portfolio. 775 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 5: Having a ton of fun with GMC because trucks is 776 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 5: really my passion and so seeing what we're doing there 777 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 5: is really exciting. So my intention is to keep doing 778 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 5: what I'm doing and keep taking these brands to new heights. 779 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, I really appreciate you spending some time with us. 780 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I met you, and I'm so glad 781 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,720 Speaker 2: you could join us on Hot Pursuit. 782 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 5: I enjoyed it very much, Matt, Thank you so much 783 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 5: for having me. 784 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. All Right, that was my interview with Jacquelin McQuaid. 785 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: She's awesome and I'm thinking there's a high likelihood she 786 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: is at least in the running for the next chief 787 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: executive officer at General Motors. So all right, you know what, 788 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: I hate it when YouTubers say like and subscribe, especially 789 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 2: they'll stop at the beginning of the video and say, hey, 790 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: like and subscribe, and they always put the bell up 791 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 2: and the red button. It's so self serving, it's disgusting. 792 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: So earnest, it's way too transparent and earnest, and you know, 793 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: asking for something. 794 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,959 Speaker 2: I don't want to be begging our listeners to write 795 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: a review of the podcast, or to give us five stars, 796 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: or to like and subscribe. I wouldn't. 797 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 4: I would don't have to do it for you. I'll 798 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: do it for you. 799 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: I'll say please like and subscribe to Hot Bloomberg cop Pursuit, 800 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: write comments, write us questions, write reviews. I have no 801 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: shame in this way. I will do all the dirty work. 802 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: We do love to hear from you, and do remember 803 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: to follow and subscribe on Apple, Spotify, anywhere else. 804 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: If you listen. You can find me. 805 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: On Instagram Hannah Elliott XO. You can find Matt Miller 806 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram as well. 807 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: Matt Matt. Yeah. Actually, I do not have any shame 808 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: about asking people to follow me on Instagram, although I 809 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not as I could be putting up 810 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: more I'll put I'm gonna post a picture of the 811 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: r S six that I got pulled over in this morning, 812 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: Post that. 813 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: One, and like, honestly post something of a roads like 814 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: an America Roadster. So okay to get people, I'll do hunt. 815 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: I'll do that. I by the way, when I first 816 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: signed up for Instagram, this is like, I don't know, 817 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, I did it the behest of our 818 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: social media director here at Bloomberg. She has since left 819 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: the company, but she said, just pick any handle. So 820 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: I picked Matt Miller nineteen seventy three, and she was like, ew, 821 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: you're so old. People are going to know how old 822 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 2: you are. And I wasn't even that old then. 823 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do. I certainly would never. 824 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: My own husband asked me how old I was going 825 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: to be on my next birthday, and I declined to 826 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 1: tell him. 827 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 4: I thought it's a rude question. 828 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: That is rude. All right. That does it for this 829 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: episode of Bloomberg Hot Pursuit. By the way, we say 830 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: the entire name because you have to search Bloomberg Hot 831 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: Pursuit to really find us. I'm Matt Miller. 832 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 4: And I'm Hannah Elliott. 833 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: Will be in your podcast feed again next week