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Speaker 1: Previously on Empire on Blood. You'll always loved yourself some Calvin.

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Speaker 2: But now I let Calvin go.

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Speaker 3: You are not your free men.

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Speaker 4: Now, okay, see where are we going, you.

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Speaker 3: Know to drop you?

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Speaker 5: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: We all we got us. You know. You and I

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Speaker 2: did a little interview at my house.

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Speaker 1: You and she came down and you.

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Speaker 2: Did a little talk upstairs. It's nice, you know, go

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Speaker 2: back and listen to that old tape. It's it's just

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Speaker 2: kind of amazing to you know, be in that time though,

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Speaker 2: like right after.

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Speaker 5: You were just you can send that to me. Conversation

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Speaker 5: with men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it had been a while years in fact, since

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Speaker 1: i'd seen Cal and Chi and Cal and I were

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Speaker 1: catching up talking.

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Speaker 2: I was you and me, he was talking.

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Speaker 1: Then we had another one out here in the back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I would love to listen to those things.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 5: Why just to reflect, take me to that space, whether

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Speaker 5: it shows me how far.

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Speaker 1: Came, how far they both came, Cal and She. It's

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Speaker 1: been seven years since Cal was released from prison. We

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Speaker 1: haven't heard from him or from she since then. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to reflect on. A lot has changed Cal's

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Speaker 1: financial situation. For one thing, we'll get to that and

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Speaker 1: his personal situation.

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Speaker 5: I think when she came into my life, I mean,

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Speaker 5: she was just an angel sent from heaven to me.

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Speaker 5: You know, She's always supported me, she always believed in me.

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Speaker 5: She always been a genuine friend.

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Speaker 1: She whose real name is Sheryl Washington, had come into

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Speaker 1: Cal's life about a decade before his convey was overturned.

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Speaker 1: She'd believed in his innocence, visited him in prison just

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Speaker 1: about every week. Rallied for the free Calvin cause.

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Speaker 5: I love Chi. I mean, it's nothing that you could

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Speaker 5: just bottle into a title. I mean, it's something that's

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Speaker 5: beyond words or measure. You understand this, I don't. I

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Speaker 5: can't explain it. She's somebody that I would literally put

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Speaker 5: my life on the line for.

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Speaker 3: We walked together.

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Speaker 1: It made me think of what she had said about Cow.

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Speaker 1: That was my dog, so call and she she and Cow.

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Speaker 1: I like to think it had the makings of a

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Speaker 1: fairytale romance. Prisoner Calvin Buarre had counted on she in

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Speaker 1: every way, and then finally, after his release, they were

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Speaker 1: together in the same place in the free world. I

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Speaker 1: hoped it would work out.

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Speaker 5: It would be a beautiful thing for that to Happen.

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Speaker 1: From Orbit Media. This is pyn Blood the director's cut,

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Speaker 1: a story of murder, betrayal and a man who fought

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Speaker 1: the law for two decades, and about that same man

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Speaker 1: looking for love after a life in prison. When we

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Speaker 1: last heard from Cal, he just entered the free world.

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Speaker 1: Within months of his release, Cal had launched a business,

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Speaker 1: and within a year, incredibly, he was celebrated in Ink magazine.

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Speaker 1: Cal's venture rider's van surface transported family and friends to

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Speaker 1: see loved ones in prison. He liked to refer to

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Speaker 1: it as the Uber of prison transport, though, as the

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Speaker 1: Ink reporter noted, cal knew more about prison than about Uber.

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Speaker 1: Cal and Chie were in the business together, cawmore the

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Speaker 1: businessman and deal maker. She the cli and friendly side

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Speaker 1: of the business, which kept her in the van and

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Speaker 1: at all hours of the day.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting up two three in the morning, getting them

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Speaker 4: up there, going to gainst some acupunctioner and get him

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Speaker 4: right back to the route. I'm going to get these

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Speaker 4: girls and bring him back.

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Speaker 1: Cal told inc that rids revenue was about one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. He negotiated to least three vans,

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Speaker 1: the business national. Of course he did. Cal being Cal,

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Speaker 1: he told me he was determined to become a legit millionaire.

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Speaker 1: She believed in him.

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Speaker 3: When he says this is what I'm going to do,

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Speaker 3: that is when I get done.

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Speaker 6: So I never do that.

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Speaker 3: Ever.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, the van offered another valuable service.

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Speaker 5: You know, it may be a little uncomfortable to sleep

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Speaker 1: Business might have been declared a success in a national magazine,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time kl was sleeping in one

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Speaker 1: I'd been stunned and saddened when I learned that he

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Speaker 1: was homeless, but Cal didn't see it that way.

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Speaker 5: It's a beautiful van, it's a workhoorse, it's trustworthy, and

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Speaker 5: it's my house on wheels right now. You know, do

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Speaker 5: it all in one van for me right now. So

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Speaker 5: right now, I'm very much in love with my van.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: She tried to coax him into the house. King refused.

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Speaker 3: After they've done years in jail, he really knows that person.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they become acclimated to hearing you know, people get

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Speaker 3: stabbed all types of stuff, and then when they come out,

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Speaker 3: I just think they need time.

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Speaker 5: She know, she sleeps in the van with me sometimes,

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Speaker 5: you know, so you know, there you go. That sucks

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Speaker 5: at all, you know, when you're sleeping in the van

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Speaker 5: and then you have somebody that's willing to say, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'll sleep in there with you.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: She have her little role and I have my little row,

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Speaker 5: you know, and we just turn on the heat till

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Speaker 5: the van get hot, and we listen to our little music,

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Speaker 1: As she remembers that she always slept in the van.

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Speaker 3: We were together, seeing we were together, what good we

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Speaker 3: was together? It was no child would just be by himself?

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Speaker 3: Whatever cow was? She fack if he was sleeping in

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Speaker 3: the job. You think I'm gonna be and like thinking

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Speaker 3: Do you think I'm about But you sleep outside in

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Speaker 3: dressay by yourself.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't even think I.

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Speaker 1: Really knew what love was.

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Speaker 5: You understand, I didn't see men and women in a

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Speaker 5: loving relationship before. I never seen it. I've never really

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Speaker 5: to be able to say that's what I wanted in life.

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Speaker 1: I thought Cal might experience a loving relationship with Gi,

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Speaker 1: whether inside or outside. Cal never stopped dreaming about success,

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Speaker 1: even when sleeping in a van. Cal had a vision

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Speaker 2: Five years.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking to be on a beach somewhere, a cow.

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Speaker 5: Money I ain't made yet, you know, signing off checks.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking about five years, I'm really having my brand.

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Speaker 5: I'm really thinking about having a brand, and really, you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, traveling the world. I know things would be

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Speaker 1: Cal's dreams were always about the fruits of success to find,

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same way he'd defined them as a

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Speaker 1: on his progress via text. First he texted pictures of

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Speaker 1: he sent pics of his businesses Mercedes he'd got at

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Speaker 1: of his credit scores. The latest was seven hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty nine, better than mine. Cow was fetishistic about his

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Speaker 1: Cow called me that day, shouting.

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Speaker 2: Geeve, I'm a homeolder.

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Speaker 1: The single family home set Cow back one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Bronx in Newburgh, New York, the kind of place often

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Speaker 1: thrilled for Cow and fORCH a new life, a new house.

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Speaker 1: Everything seemed to be working. Calvin front door, I g.

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Speaker 3: Cooking and cleaning.

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Speaker 2: So come in, good to see you. So where do

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Speaker 1: L Col conducts the tour. A huge sectional couch seems

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Speaker 1: to nearly fill the living room. It faces a giant

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Speaker 1: TV which is near a poster of Empire on Blood,

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Speaker 1: and there's an ad for Riders van service which advertises

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Speaker 1: the uber of prison transport. The house is cozy, comfortable,

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Speaker 1: and Cal is so proud and happy. His mood is light,

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Speaker 1: so different from the cow I knew in prison. It

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you my going life? See you without

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Cow was fastidious about wearing hats everywhere. She told me

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Speaker 1: she had hadn't seen him without a hat, not on purpose.

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Speaker 1: The afternoon of our visit, Cow was wearing a black

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Speaker 2: There it is looks beautiful. I just don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I lost my hair a sign of our friendship.

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Speaker 7: Maybe how lost isom you're Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It was frustrating the cow when he couldn't control something

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Speaker 1: like aging. The cow seems eternally youthful to me. He

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Speaker 1: still did one hundred push ups every morning. In the

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Speaker 1: Cal mentioned another feature of the house. Is it true

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Speaker 1: that you sit in the jacuzzi and watched You want.

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Speaker 5: To go see the jacozy Let's take a.

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Speaker 1: Look at He told me he likes to watch YouTube

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Speaker 1: university on how to flip properties from his jacuzzie.

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Speaker 7: So I'm recording the homecoming.

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Speaker 2: That the big place.

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Speaker 3: I showa she wants.

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Speaker 1: To geyser is the dog call. And I go through

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Speaker 2: It's pouring rain.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, come on under here. Oh my god,

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Speaker 7: Calvin burned a jacuzzi tent, seems what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Is that a rubber duck in a small little rubber

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Speaker 2: This must remind you you're not in prison. Huh.

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Speaker 1: That evening in Newburgh, we all sat on Cow's deck

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Speaker 1: overlooking the jacuzzie. The rain had stopped and the air

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Speaker 1: seemed fresh. As the day was ending, we drank champagne

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Speaker 1: and ate lobster, Me and my wife, Cal and his

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Speaker 1: partner Gi. Cal was forty eight and she approaching fifty.

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Speaker 1: They seemed on the verge of a new life. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was on that visit that I learned she

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Speaker 1: and Cal were trying to have a baby. And remember

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Speaker 1: that shocked me, But it turned out that having a

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Speaker 1: baby was something Cal thought about all the time. Later

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Speaker 1: Cal told me he wanted to be a family guy.

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Speaker 5: We actually got them to come to our number. What kid, Dolly.

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Speaker 1: This is a reenactment for a reality series Life After

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Speaker 1: lock Up. It's cheesy, but I recommend it. In this scene,

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Speaker 1: Oscar Mitchellan that's Cal's lawyer, is on the phone. He's

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Speaker 1: been negotiating a settlement for Col compensation for having been

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Speaker 1: This was great news for Col and maybe for Chi too.

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Speaker 1: Cal eventually received two checks, one from the city, the

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know how much he you know, he got.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, like didn't have anything to

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Speaker 1: Do you know now? I think it's like five point

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Speaker 3: You know, he did the time, So he did the time.

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Speaker 5: Well, It's not that I don't like people. This is

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Speaker 6: Does she.

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Speaker 1: She had first crossed paths with Calvin Buari when he

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Speaker 3: So this band service for me.

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Speaker 6: When they talk to me, they talked.

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Speaker 3: To me from their jail point right, I talked to

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you, Steve cow.

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Speaker 5: When I first came home in twenty seventeen. Even though

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Speaker 5: You could literally eat off the floor in some places

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that the kids, they don't

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Speaker 1: One day, Cal showed me photos of his new house

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, tell me what I'm looking at here.

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Speaker 5: You're looking at me on the float in my pole,

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Speaker 2: My god, by the grotto.

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Speaker 5: That's the grotto with the slide. We got the little

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Speaker 2: No, Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I like hearing water draft. For some reason, me

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Speaker 5: It's like tranquil for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow, who's taking that photo? By life?

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Speaker 5: But my mom's took that photo. Yeah, my mother took

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Speaker 2: And you got a TV outside. Yes, and it's a

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Speaker 5: It's my dog. He got his own little couch.

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Speaker 2: And you see a fireplace out there? Did I see

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Speaker 5: I got a fireplace out there too.

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Speaker 1: Spend a lot of time designing the inside of the

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Speaker 2: You don't how to live.

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Speaker 5: I don't deny myself anything.

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Speaker 2: You're not wild parties?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm to say I'm not that type of guy.

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Speaker 5: No more. As long as I have everything that I

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Speaker 5: I got the pool, ditcha COOZI the basketball court, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, the outdoor fireplace to sign out

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Speaker 5: of the gym, you know what I'm saying. I got

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Speaker 5: And I really feel like it's a good thing to

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Speaker 5: be alone because I'm cool in my own space now, Steve.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with being alone because you know,

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Speaker 1: I mansion with a single occupant. To me, it seemed lonely.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have many visitors. I don't think they'd be

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Speaker 1: she was gonna?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, that was yo. Listen.

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Speaker 2: It brought me to tears. Man, we were just.

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Speaker 5: Sitting down, just laughing, And I've just loved to see

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Speaker 1: During the show Love After lockdown, call has asked the question.

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Speaker 5: She is she gonna move down? I mean, she's really reluctant.

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Speaker 5: She really don't, you know, like Houston, because she ain't

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Speaker 1: She was reluctant. I asked her about Houston in cam True,

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Speaker 1: but Tree agreed to visit. In his house, Cal has

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Speaker 2: She walks by.

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Speaker 5: Them, Well put your finger in there if you'd like it.

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Speaker 1: They sit in Cal's favorite room, the entertainment room. Cal

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Speaker 1: had texted me a video of it. No narration, just

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Speaker 5: All of them at once?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, a multi dimensional like that.

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Speaker 1: The TVs were off when she and Cal settled into

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Speaker 1: to me exactly what they were celebrating.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I have to ban Houston in order to establish myself.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. This is the house that

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Speaker 3: That means more time in Houston and less time for Chi.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we have to make sacrifices in order,

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Speaker 3: Can we come off the business for one second?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm always on the business.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, put she in the business.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask Cal if he could have made

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Speaker 5: You know, Steve, you know me, like you really know me.

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Speaker 1: I know Cal is peter naturally determined nothing gets in

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Speaker 1: I always have from that first collect prison call a

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Speaker 1: She had good energy on TV. She's visit to Houston

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Speaker 6: She went to Houston, she was moving on.

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Speaker 3: I was here. I wasn't holding on to hope.

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Speaker 1: She went home to the Newburgh House, though her time

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Speaker 1: decided to flip it pocket six figures. Cal gave her

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Speaker 4: His path has made him a certain m type of way, right,

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Speaker 5: And it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Matter what what what, This is how he functions, This

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Speaker 3: But this is what gotta be done.

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Speaker 1: Cal is getting the Newburg house in order to sell.

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Speaker 1: I drive up to visit. We sit on his front porch.

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Speaker 1: No one is living in the house. Cal doesn't seem

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Speaker 5: And I always told you I wanted this, and now

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 2: This is like drum roll.

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Speaker 1: Cal hands me his phone shows me a screenshot.

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Speaker 2: Say what that is?

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Speaker 7: That is an exceptional crew Go, oh my god, I

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Speaker 5: Yes, say what your number is?

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Speaker 2: Main and thirty five?

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Speaker 5: Okay, man, Well look what your boy did in such

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Speaker 5: a short time.

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Speaker 2: Man, unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Don't you know that calvinber Warry could walk in any

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Speaker 1: Steve cal was high on his credit score. Made me

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Speaker 1: think of something she had told me. She said, Col

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Speaker 1: Steve Fishman's low bar cow, But I was mainly thinking

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Speaker 1: about something else, the breakup with Chi, breakups her heart

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Speaker 1: and if you.

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Speaker 2: And chin had a kid. That might have been different.

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Speaker 5: If you hit the nail in the hand right there,

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Speaker 5: be miserable as fuck. And I felt like she would

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Speaker 5: try to keep me in a position because she loved

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Speaker 5: me and wouldn't be open and honest with me and

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Speaker 5: be like oo, cayl, I can't do it. I desire

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Speaker 5: to be able to be a father because I've never

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Speaker 5: had one, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Turned out the count obsessed about having a son. He

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Speaker 1: waxed on. I never heard cal so dreamy.

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Speaker 5: I could be like I have the whole sink, kitchen,

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Speaker 5: everything thrown at me. But when I opened that door,

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Speaker 5: like you see your little son's face, like all I

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Speaker 5: had to get washed away. We gonna gona sit down

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Speaker 5: at dinner. I'm aa smile, i'm'a hug my child. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna show my child love. I just feel like I

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Speaker 5: could be a beautiful guy for my son so he

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Speaker 5: could be the best that he could be for hisself.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And I desire that that's

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Speaker 5: the only thing at this point, as I talked to you,

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Speaker 5: that I feel like I'm missing out on. And it

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Speaker 5: means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, not entirely. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: understand the words, and I understand that the money chases,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's largely over and of course I know

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Speaker 1: that having a family offers a different kind of security.

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Speaker 1: But the insistence in Cal's voice, the emotion, where was

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Speaker 1: that coming from?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Really did think Cal was all about the business. I

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Speaker 1: asked she She knows Cal better than I do, maybe

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Speaker 1: better than Cal knows himself.

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Speaker 3: I just think you one.

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Speaker 4: Kid that he can raise, that he you know, knows

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Speaker 4: genuinely loved him, with no hidden agenda.

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Speaker 1: So finally, somebody you can really trust is that is right.

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Speaker 3: His blood, his you know, he'll have a chance to raise.

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Speaker 4: The child him him. He just wants somebody, but you know,

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Speaker 4: a child that's gonna love him.

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Speaker 3: They won't have to second guess anything.

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Speaker 1: And so in Houston, Cown's been scouting for a mother

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Speaker 1: for his future offspring. On the porch in Newburgh, he explains.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for great character and a person, you know,

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Speaker 5: a family person, you know, and just somebody that has

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Speaker 5: Bob Marvels and princifusion.

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Speaker 1: Cown says he's found someone in Houston. He refers to

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Speaker 1: her as his friend. They're working on a baby now.

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Speaker 5: We have an understanding, like I want to be a

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Speaker 5: family guy, man, you know what I'm saying. So whoever

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Speaker 5: have my baby, She's not just gonna be my baby mother,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I want to be a

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Speaker 5: part of my family. I don't want to be disconnected

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Speaker 5: from the you know, the mother of my child.

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Speaker 2: So you can see a life together. Her moving into

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Speaker 2: the Houston mansion and everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely she had my kid.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and she she's clear eyed. She's moving on too,

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Speaker 1: in a different way. Not so money for one thing,

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Speaker 1: and not so fast.

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Speaker 3: Gotta let go because holding on means that it's gonna

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Speaker 3: turn you bitter. We came together for a time. The

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Speaker 3: time is up.

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Speaker 1: She loves to drive. She just bought her own van.

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Speaker 6: This route gives me a chance to talk to heal,

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Speaker 6: to understand who I am.

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Speaker 1: She's got her girls people to advise and maybe commiserate

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Speaker 1: on the ride home after they've had their grueling visits

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Speaker 1: with men they may never see on the outside. She

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Speaker 1: buys them wings and champagne. Sometimes she takes them to dinner.

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Speaker 1: She counsels them.

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Speaker 3: These women get on the vam. I talk no matter

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Speaker 3: what happens. I'll always say, you're the prize. When they're

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Speaker 3: going through things, I say to them, I don't care

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Speaker 3: what it is, you're the prize. You're the prize just

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Speaker 3: like me. It's not about how much money you have.

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Speaker 3: It's not about all the assets. It's not about all

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Speaker 3: the friends, the followers, or anything. I am the prize

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00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: without any of that stuff. Okay, things happen, it didn't

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Speaker 3: work out. Okay, am I going to be like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god.

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Speaker 6: Let me go get old zimbik, let me lose weight, let.

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Speaker 3: Me go get longer hair. I'm gonna walk in anywhere,

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Speaker 3: whether I have one Gucci or Payless, but my head

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Speaker 3: held high. Hey, you're gonna.

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Speaker 6: Ask my girls.

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Speaker 3: I'll bring value. I'm the motherfucking price.

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Speaker 1: As for cal, she has well wishes. They're short and sweet.

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Speaker 3: I release you with love.

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Speaker 1: The director's cut of Empire on Blood is produced by

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Speaker 1: Emil Klein. Austin Smith is our associate producer and production coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Fact checking by Ryan Alderman and our theme song, The

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Speaker 1: Lonely King is by mister Lynn. Special thanks to Andy Bowers,

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Speaker 1: who champion the original production at Panicle. I'm Steve Fishman,

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Speaker 1: your host, a king.

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Speaker 2: The Bilt of Blood leaves the King lonely. We had

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Speaker 2: the burdens of

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Speaker 5: Your singings and that only, and we have the burn,

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Speaker 5: Lie between friends, and fold the last words you did