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Speaker 3: We are both in pink today, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I did lipstick to match. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 3: I love it, Girly.

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Speaker 2: I don't like pink, but pink likes me, so here

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunate for you. I'm a redhead who isn't supposed

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Speaker 2: You're like sixteen candles in it?

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Speaker 2: Is it sixteen candles? Or is another one where she

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Speaker 4: We have a man here that I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: And as long as that doesn't win, let them have

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Speaker 3: Pop stars are wearing crosses. Now Madonna's looking around like

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Speaker 1: That people wear across jewelry for this long. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: Right right, poor Chapel Rohn, is you a white nationalist name?

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Speaker 1: Well, they get to throw in some lefties because apparently

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Speaker 2: Like love it wowsah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like when Mara Gay at the New York

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Speaker 2: They didn't they just didn't know how crazy it was.

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Speaker 1: Symbol most associated with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, first

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Speaker 1: like that they have to start with first of all,

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Speaker 2: Just mean Christianity, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, maybe maybe that's what people mean. I as a Jew,

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Speaker 3: love seeing crosses on people. I love seeing people represent

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Speaker 3: their values. I am all about it. And it just

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Speaker 1: I agree with Star David, we're both we both rock

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Speaker 2: And I just I truly thought it was fake.

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Speaker 3: I wish it was fake.

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Speaker 1: Like there wasn't one person in the newsroom who was like, hmm,

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Speaker 3: This doesn't seem like a story at all.

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Speaker 1: Point of the story is to be like Caroline Lovett

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Speaker 3: She's respect and Pam Bondi with their crosses. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 3: just be normal, guys.

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Speaker 2: And we wonder why you don't recover everything else sanely.

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