Speaker 1: This is called Hamil's Welcome to the Philly Show.
Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, This is the Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,
Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, Todds Lucky. We're part of the Foul Territory Network.
Speaker 2: It's Monday, August twelfth, twenty twenty four. Gentlemen, coming off
Speaker 2: the weekend in Arizona. Ruben, how was Arizona? Other than
Speaker 2: the play on the field, It was.
Speaker 1: Like being on the equator. It was the hottest place
Speaker 1: in the planet. But other than that, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it was.
Speaker 3: It was a reminder that the Arizona Diamondbacks have the
Speaker 3: Phillies number. I mean, they played baseball exactly how the
Speaker 3: Phillies played baseball in the first two months, and that's
Speaker 3: exactly what they wanted. That's the kind of baseball that
Speaker 3: the Phillies wanted to play, and they just it was
Speaker 3: a beatdown in a lot of different ways. The pitching,
Speaker 3: the offense, the situational hitting.
Speaker 1: There was all types of things going on.
Speaker 3: As far as just playing baseball is concerned, all the
Speaker 3: things fundamentally, situationally, they just played better baseball. They are
Speaker 3: a very fast team, they're a very athletic team. They
Speaker 3: got exploited in that area. The Phillies pitchers got exploited
Speaker 3: by walking too many people and making too many mistakes
Speaker 3: defensively and leaving too many pitches in the middle of
Speaker 3: the plate, and the d bas just took advantage of it,
Speaker 3: as simple as that. And the Phillies are going to
Speaker 3: have to figure out what's going on because it's an
Speaker 3: unmitigated disaster right now.
Speaker 1: The pitching's not very starting. Pitching has been.
Speaker 3: Subpar, and they're gonna have to right They're gonna figure
Speaker 3: away to right the ship because right now, if they
Speaker 3: were going to go into a playoff game, regardless of
Speaker 3: whether they win the division or not, they'll get knocked
Speaker 3: out quick because the kind of baseball that they're playing
Speaker 3: right now is just not going to get it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Those I mean, they're a very good team, the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 4: You mentioned their speed and the way they can string
Speaker 4: hits together and and and put put runs on the board,
Speaker 4: and then they also have some power pop too. A
Speaker 4: really nice team playing terrific baseball. You can say they
Speaker 4: have the Phillies number or whatever you want to say.
Speaker 4: They're just out playing the Phillies. You know, going back
Speaker 4: to Game six and seven last year. So you know,
Speaker 4: I was watching Bryce Harper's post game interview. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was a tough series. You lose three out of
Speaker 4: four after taking the first game, and uh, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of disappointment in that room, a lot of disappointment
Speaker 4: etched on his face. And he was asked, I think
Speaker 4: Corey Seideman asked him about the Diamondbacks team and how
Speaker 4: they played, and he made the comment that they're not scared.
Speaker 4: They play the game the right way. They're not scared
Speaker 4: play the game the right way. And you know, like
Speaker 4: it's our job. We read into things. That's what we
Speaker 4: do as reporters and observers, and my little antennae I
Speaker 4: went right up when I heard that they're not scared,
Speaker 4: they play the game the right way. Bryce is a
Speaker 4: master at messaging and kind of laying it out there.
Speaker 4: You got to read between the lines. Do you think
Speaker 4: there was a message there to possibly some of his
Speaker 4: teammates about them not being scared about playing the game
Speaker 4: the right way. Do you read anything into that comment
Speaker 4: or am I just being a little hyper observant.
Speaker 2: No, I think that Bryce. You're right. Bryce does not
Speaker 2: say things and not know what he's saying. When he
Speaker 2: says them, very rarely do I feel like he slips up,
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes from free agency gym. Remember
Speaker 2: a couple of springs ago when they got Schwarbi's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see hopefully they're not done yet. Nick
Speaker 2: Castianos comes aboard, you know, he's he says a lot
Speaker 2: of those things, you know, trade deadline, free agency, the
Speaker 2: way the team is playing, So yeah, I absolutely think
Speaker 2: that he might have been trying to send a little
Speaker 2: message there or maybe just trying to wake up, wake
Speaker 2: up this team, which is twenty four and thirty since
Speaker 2: they won that first game in London on June eighth
Speaker 2: or twenty, there's six games under five hundred.
Speaker 3: So here's what I observed about it, and the playing
Speaker 3: scared part and playing the right way. I saw some
Speaker 3: situations where guys were not like defensively, some throws that
Speaker 3: were just not thrown with crispness.
Speaker 1: Guys look a little they do.
Speaker 3: They are playing a little timid, and it's it's there.
Speaker 3: They're not making plays that they typically would make. They
Speaker 3: are they're not running balls out the same way. There's
Speaker 3: some concern about in the case of Turner. I've seen
Speaker 3: him on many occasions lately where he is not going
Speaker 3: full full bore at times. There was a situation where
Speaker 3: a ball was hitting the gap one time that maybe
Speaker 3: he hit a scored. There was a situation where it
Speaker 3: was a groundball double play that no way on the
Speaker 3: planet that he gets doubled up. Where he get doubled up,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure whether he's feeling like he can't
Speaker 3: bust him because he's worried about his hamstring or what
Speaker 3: the deal is. I have a feeling that that's probably
Speaker 3: part of it. But there have been some situations where
Speaker 3: there's some players who are not playing with the same
Speaker 3: sort of fervor and I don't know confidence that you
Speaker 3: would typically see in a team that's up what seven
Speaker 3: and a half games on the division, that that's a concern.
Speaker 1: And pitching wise, I don't see guys getting after it.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's a little everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, guys are coming out of the pendum walking people.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not, they're not. You're not seeing now
Speaker 3: certain guys, not all of them, now, certain guys are.
Speaker 1: Are getting after it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I if I were going to name people,
Speaker 3: I think Casianos is playing is his tail off right now.
Speaker 3: I think you're doing a lot of things really really well.
Speaker 3: He's having great at bats, he's he's playing, you know,
Speaker 3: he's playing to win. I think that there's guys like
Speaker 3: Strom and those kind of guys that are getting after it.
Speaker 3: But there's some guys that are not getting after it
Speaker 3: right now. And it's pretty and it's a pretty obvious thing.
Speaker 3: And if they don't start getting after and start gaining
Speaker 3: and regaining their confidence, it's good be an awfully short postseason.
Speaker 4: You mentioned you mentioned confidence another intangible urgency, sharpness, but urgency.
Speaker 4: They built such a big lead, do you think it
Speaker 4: dulled some of their urgency?
Speaker 2: Todd, Yeah, I wonder. I wonder if it might have
Speaker 2: just looking back at their play recently. Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's still their urgency at all.
Speaker 2: But I do think that they're really lucky to have
Speaker 2: the lead that they do have because in the division anyway,
Speaker 2: I still think they're going to win the division. But
Speaker 2: you look at the standings today and they are tied
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers for the best record. In the National League,
Speaker 2: and the Brewers are only a game and a half
Speaker 2: back of both of those teams. Right, So, now you're
Speaker 2: getting in a situation you talk about urgency. They better
Speaker 2: start picking it up, because now you're starting to get
Speaker 2: in a situation where they might not even get a
Speaker 2: first round by they might have to play the number
Speaker 2: one wild card winner, which right now, as of today,
Speaker 2: would be the Arizona Diamondbacks. You know, that's that's how
Speaker 2: the matchup would would go in the playoffs. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that, Jim. Do you
Speaker 2: think that they're there may be too complacent? I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess I don't get that vibe so much, but
Speaker 2: I mean you might feel differently.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say too complacent, but you know, I think
Speaker 4: the way human nature works, you get that big lead,
Speaker 4: you play.
Speaker 6: So well, it might take some of the some of
Speaker 6: the sharpness away.
Speaker 4: There might be a a little bit of complacency and
Speaker 4: it's it's time to kick it in.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, since I was looking this up, since that
Speaker 4: sweep of Milwaukee at home right before they went to London,
Speaker 4: they're five games under five hundred. Yet they've only lost
Speaker 4: a half game in the standings.
Speaker 6: I mean that, right, you know, all of.
Speaker 4: A sudden, I, hey, we really haven't played well, but
Speaker 4: we only lost a half game in the standings. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that can probably dull some of your urgency.
Speaker 4: One of the real buzz words around this team since
Speaker 4: Rob Thompson took over in June of twenty two, has
Speaker 4: been the word resilience, almost to the.
Speaker 6: Point where it's been a cliche. Well, it's time to see.
Speaker 4: Some you know, they've been really good at it, and
Speaker 4: that's the reason it became a buzzword. They played through
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries. They really scrapped in September of
Speaker 4: twenty two. But you know, this prolonged stretch that they've
Speaker 4: gone through really since London, now, I mean the second
Speaker 4: half of the season, since the All Star break. They
Speaker 4: have the second worst record of the major leagues.
Speaker 6: So that will be gone.
Speaker 4: Chicago White Sox. They have the worst record of the
Speaker 4: major leagues. So what are they the team that had
Speaker 4: the best record in baseball? The team you know, obviously
Speaker 4: they're in the middle and well toward being one of
Speaker 4: the best teams in baseball, But gosh, this funk has
Speaker 4: gone on long enough, it's time to pull yourself out
Speaker 4: of it before you can't and before it bites you
Speaker 4: in October.
Speaker 3: So a couple of things resonate with me. This shows
Speaker 3: me how poor the end National League is. The National
Speaker 3: League's just not a very good league. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't think there's very good There's not that many great
Speaker 3: teams in the National League. And it also brings to
Speaker 3: light to me, you know, the complacency piece, and and
Speaker 3: it also brings to light what how.
Speaker 1: Really good are are the Phillies.
Speaker 3: The talent is there, and they were playing like the
Speaker 3: best team in all of baseball, and they have the
Speaker 3: talent to be the best team in baseball, but they're
Speaker 3: not playing the game as the best team in baseball.
Speaker 3: The teams that are playing the game as the best
Speaker 3: teams in baseball the Milwaukee Brewers and the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1: In the National League.
Speaker 3: Los Angeles is going to get there too, because Mookie
Speaker 3: Betts is coming back. They're going to get some of
Speaker 3: their pitching backs. The more they're starting pitching back, they're
Speaker 3: they're they're going to get better and better and so
Speaker 3: and in the San Diego Padres, they're playing as a
Speaker 3: team finally, which is something they had not done in
Speaker 3: a couple of years. So all of those teams are
Speaker 3: playing better baseball as a team, not necessarily more talented,
Speaker 3: but playing better baseball, and that's what you need. I
Speaker 3: also think back to the comment when I talked to
Speaker 3: Chase Utley, he was there in a Los Angeles. He
Speaker 3: made a tremendous comment and he said, you know, this
Speaker 3: team needed to face the little adversity. They needed to
Speaker 3: figure it because it was crude. They were going cruise control,
Speaker 3: and maybe this is a good thing that they will
Speaker 3: come out of it and be better for it. And
Speaker 3: it's a little bit like developing a young player where
Speaker 3: you know, the guy's just cruising through the minor leagues
Speaker 3: and not ever having any issues. He's hitting you know,
Speaker 3: three hundred or three point fifty, or he has a
Speaker 3: you know, one point two era and never really faces adversity,
Speaker 3: and then when he gets to the big leagues, boom,
Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden, he slapped in the
Speaker 3: face with the Hillary and Bradsby and he can't get
Speaker 3: anybody out. So I think this is a good this
Speaker 3: is a good way of good test for them because
Speaker 3: it's time for them to kick it in, and I
Speaker 3: would not be surprised if Brob Thompson doesn't have a
Speaker 3: little chat with him. Meetings are can be silly at times,
Speaker 3: but with the way that they're playing baseball right now,
Speaker 3: they do need a little kick in the pants.
Speaker 2: I feel like, especially with I.
Speaker 4: Was gonna say, they really could use Trey Turner to
Speaker 4: get going too, because he can be such a catalyst.
Speaker 4: You know, he was hitting three forty nine going into
Speaker 4: the break. He's lost like forty nine points on his average,
Speaker 4: almost fifty points on his batting average, and his OPS
Speaker 4: is plummeted. It's just had a very poor run here
Speaker 4: in the second half. It like a buck buck eighty.
Speaker 4: He can be such a catalytic player. It would be
Speaker 4: nice to see him really really turn it on. I mean,
Speaker 4: Harper's been pretty good, Castianos has been good for a
Speaker 4: couple of months. It's such a drop off and once
Speaker 4: you get to the middle of that lineup with Stott
Speaker 4: and Marsh really struggling.
Speaker 3: Now that those two guys who really need to pick
Speaker 3: it up, Stott and Marsh have been really.
Speaker 1: Not very good. I mean, Chipple is that JT.
Speaker 3: They're Yeah, they just haven't been good, and and and
Speaker 3: Stott and Marsha. They just need to be better. There
Speaker 3: are bats need to be better. And don't be surprised
Speaker 3: if you don't see some shakeup in the lineup and
Speaker 3: or the roster, if some of these guys don't start
Speaker 3: picking it up. I'm just gonna say that because I
Speaker 3: know Dave Dombrowski. He is patient and he I mean,
Speaker 3: he understands the game. But if you're not performing, this
Speaker 3: is a performance space. I mean, they're here, they're here
Speaker 3: to win, baby. So if guys don't start playing the game,
Speaker 3: you may see some you may see some things change
Speaker 3: in this lineup.
Speaker 2: What would you do with the lineup and what would
Speaker 2: you do the roster?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Would you bump down trade until he gets going? Move
Speaker 2: up Castianosh? You know what would you guys do?
Speaker 3: I would I would move to Castianos because Castianos is
Speaker 3: having quality at bats like day in and day out,
Speaker 3: there's no question he's having the best most quality of
Speaker 3: bats on the team. He and Schwarber I think are
Speaker 3: having the best, you know, as far as uh.
Speaker 1: And Harper as well. I mean, he's he's out back.
Speaker 3: After that, After that, very very difficult stretch he's had.
Speaker 3: Those are the guys that are getting it done right now.
Speaker 4: Would you send somebody out one of the you know, oh,
Speaker 4: I would think about it like Stought or marsh It.
Speaker 3: Would be something that would least I mean, listen, no
Speaker 3: one's immune. I mean Divon White years ago got sent
Speaker 3: down after being in the big leagues for three years.
Speaker 3: I played with him in California with the California AIE
Speaker 3: is down at Edmonton.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing down here? Dude?
Speaker 4: No, it can be It can be a shock that
Speaker 4: can get some guys going. I mean Alvarado went down
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. It was very much remedial
Speaker 4: because he came back with that cutter.
Speaker 6: He did good things with it. Maybe, but I'm also
Speaker 6: I bet.
Speaker 4: Mentally it was a bit of a shock to his
Speaker 4: pride and it kicked him in a little bit. You know,
Speaker 4: I think anything should be on the table. It's a
Speaker 4: team that doesn't do a lot of that because you
Speaker 4: got a patience.
Speaker 1: GM.
Speaker 4: You've got a patient man. If you're but you know,
Speaker 4: maybe a shake up in the lineup, something well placed
Speaker 4: might have positive benefit. I'm not you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying you exile somebody for the whole season, but you know,
Speaker 4: you can send a bit of a message, kind of
Speaker 4: roll a grenade figurative grenade through that clubhouse and wake
Speaker 4: some people up.
Speaker 2: Trade Like, yeah, four guys who trade ops since that
Speaker 2: Dodgers sweep in mid July five seventy four JT five
Speaker 2: sixty two dot five twelve marsh four forty five. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's just a few days ago we were talking about
Speaker 2: him having some better bats against lefties. But uh, you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's he's really been he's really been struggling. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that would it would be interesting to see
Speaker 2: how they would do that and what they would do
Speaker 2: and how they would message it, because this is a
Speaker 2: team that you know, talks about, you know, resiliency and
Speaker 2: not panicking and and but but on the other hand,
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, we're twenty four and thirty since
Speaker 2: since June eighth. Listen, you have to perform for six
Speaker 2: games under five hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to perform. You have to play winning baseball.
Speaker 3: And if you're not performing and you're striking out at
Speaker 3: a forty percent rate, or you're not getting on base,
Speaker 3: or you're.
Speaker 1: Not contributing offensively, then.
Speaker 3: Somebody else has to take that place and replace that
Speaker 3: offensive I mean it's been going on for.
Speaker 1: A while now.
Speaker 3: This is not like like two weeks. This is two
Speaker 3: months almost, and so you know something's gonna have to change.
Speaker 3: And the complacency piece that that would change it if
Speaker 3: someone was shaken up.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you get some people's attention, and it could
Speaker 4: have a very positive effect.
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: But for a team, an organization that you know, really
Speaker 4: prides itself on being even keeled, maybe it's a maybe
Speaker 4: it's just a lineup shakeup. Maybe if somebody says for
Speaker 4: a couple of days, just get somebody's attention, you never
Speaker 4: know where it might go.
Speaker 2: Is there anything on the pitching side that has you,
Speaker 2: guys concerned?
Speaker 1: Everything? Everything does?
Speaker 2: Everything does?
Speaker 3: Everything does? I mean, listen, this is the best starting
Speaker 3: rotation in baseball. It is no longer the best starting
Speaker 3: rotation in baseball. I mean, Suarez coming back is great,
Speaker 3: Tywan Walker's coming back on Tuesday, that's that's fine. He's
Speaker 3: not a world beater, but he's gonna eat up some
Speaker 3: innings and and in fact, you know, the other guys
Speaker 3: are good Kobe Aller did a good job, and Tyler
Speaker 3: Phillips has done a decent job. But the other big boys,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to pitch better. Aaron did not pitch well.
Speaker 3: They have his number and and he he has not been,
Speaker 3: you know, pitching all that well. I mean he's fairly consistent,
Speaker 3: but you know, he needs to dominate a game or
Speaker 3: two here. And uh, you know, Christopher Sanchez I thought
Speaker 3: was gonna I thought he's good a deal yesterday and
Speaker 3: he really did not have command of his stuff and
Speaker 3: so he got beat up. But the but the bullpen
Speaker 3: is another issue. I mean, Alvarado clearly is struggling. He's
Speaker 3: a lot of pitches in the middle of the plate, hopmins,
Speaker 3: hopmins been lights out, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he only leaves a couple of pitches in the middle
Speaker 3: of the play. He's getting whacked around a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 3: there's I mean, it hasn't been good. It's as simple
Speaker 3: as that. They're better than this. I don't think there's
Speaker 3: any question. But they're gonna have to have to start
Speaker 3: executing or it's gonna be an ugly couple of months.
Speaker 2: Sanchez has an era in the mid sixes since he
Speaker 2: won Pitcher of the Month in June. I mean, Noah's
Speaker 2: era is almost you know, four seven five in his
Speaker 2: last eleven starts. So both of those guys are really wheelers.
Speaker 2: But he's had those two terrible starts where he gave
Speaker 2: up like seven runs, but other other than that, he's
Speaker 2: been okay, I say, other than that.
Speaker 4: And then then as oftentimes, they don't have a lot
Speaker 4: of margin forever because the hitting with Mars and scoring position,
Speaker 4: which you know has really not been good. I mean,
Speaker 4: especially in this series at Arizona. You get these runners
Speaker 4: out there, you've got to find a way to deliver them.
Speaker 4: And they had you know, they had a game where
Speaker 4: they were i mean they were seven for thirty four
Speaker 4: with runners in scoring position two h six in this series.
Speaker 4: I mean there were opportunities they just didn't get them
Speaker 4: in and that can make a difference on the pitching
Speaker 4: staff as well. But Sanchez and Nola in this series
Speaker 4: a lot of balls over the plate, and that's a
Speaker 4: team that will hurt you, and they got hurt.
Speaker 1: You have to pitch.
Speaker 3: When you have to start thinking about pitching and not
Speaker 3: giving up a run because you're not getting the support
Speaker 3: then that baseball gets a little tighter, gets a little heavier,
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: Try to get every pitch becomes even more.
Speaker 3: Stressful, and you know you're having a lot of things
Speaker 3: happen at the same time. No part of their game
Speaker 3: right now is going well, not one.
Speaker 6: Do you do you think I mean, they really struggled again.
Speaker 4: Every team they've played since the break has been five
Speaker 4: hundred or better and they've struggled seven to fifteen. Now
Speaker 4: they're going to see Miami and Washington. Do you think
Speaker 4: that could cure some things here? And also they're gonna
Speaker 4: see Citizens Bank Park and it's gonna be banged out.
Speaker 4: They've had a day off, but you know, I feel
Speaker 4: like we've talked about this before. Okay, day off, they're
Speaker 4: coming home. This is gonna get them going and then
Speaker 4: it doesn't. But these are two poor teams. You can't
Speaker 4: play down to their level. You've gotta come out, you got.
Speaker 6: To you gotta take hold of these games early, and
Speaker 6: then you've got to tag on.
Speaker 2: That's the way I was looking at this series, this
Speaker 2: homestand gym. I hate to like overstate the importance of
Speaker 2: a homestand, but you almost need them to like go
Speaker 2: four and two at least, and just pound the crap
Speaker 2: out of these teams all week long and just brutalize them.
Speaker 2: Because if you go three and three against the Marlins
Speaker 2: and the Nationals, I mean, that's gonna be deflating, I
Speaker 2: would think, and just kind of get people to be
Speaker 2: a little bit more concerned. So, you know, the Marlins
Speaker 2: are terrible, the Nationals are not a winning baseball team.
Speaker 2: So I think they got to go at least four
Speaker 2: and two, you know, And I hate doing that because
Speaker 2: it's hard to win games.
Speaker 1: That I get it.
Speaker 2: But all right, you've been talking about how you played
Speaker 2: a really tough schedule. So if you're talking about playing
Speaker 2: a really tough schedule, this is not a really tough schedule.
Speaker 2: This is not a really tough schedule in the homestand
Speaker 2: so you got to take care of business against these guys.
Speaker 1: The time is now, boys, time is now.
Speaker 3: They got to start playing really good baseball, and they don't,
Speaker 3: it's then the panic button will be struck.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, last week, as we had answered some reader
Speaker 2: questions or reader questions, listener viewer questions, and one of
Speaker 2: them was give us your level of concern, level of
Speaker 2: worry about the Phillies play right now. This was last
Speaker 2: Wednesday we did this. Jim, you said one point five. Rubin,
Speaker 2: you said if you were a player zero. You said,
Speaker 2: as a lifelong Philadelphia and the Phillies fan. Nine you said,
Speaker 2: GM six seven, And then you said overall, though your
Speaker 2: your vibe is a four to five, I think I
Speaker 2: was about a two or a three. Jim. As your
Speaker 2: one point five s increased, I guess it can't have decrease.
Speaker 1: Where are you on the one point five?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm still at one point five on the
Speaker 4: warrior meter, but my ticked off meter is going up
Speaker 4: to about an eight because it's tough to watch this
Speaker 4: stuff when you know they're better than they are. Okay,
Speaker 4: so maybe I'm parsing words, but I'm still not overly
Speaker 4: worried because they're going to play in the postseason and
Speaker 4: whoever gets hot is going to go, you know, crazy
Speaker 4: through the postseason. But you know, it would really behoove
Speaker 4: them to go into the postseason playing much better ball
Speaker 4: than they are now. There's time to get things going,
Speaker 4: but you know, it would be good to see trade
Speaker 4: turn and get going. I think he you know, he's hot.
Speaker 4: It kind of reverberates through the entire lineup, and it
Speaker 4: would be good to get some depth in. You know,
Speaker 4: the one through nine is such a big drop off
Speaker 4: after kind of like number five in the batting order.
Speaker 6: Got to get all those guys calling.
Speaker 4: So I'm still not that worried because they're gonna play
Speaker 4: in the postseason. They got a big cushion, but frustrated,
Speaker 4: ticked off. I certainly can understand what people why people
Speaker 4: would feel that way for what they what they're watching,
Speaker 4: because it's just not fun.
Speaker 6: It's kind of a shorter watch.
Speaker 4: You don't deliver runners in the scoring position, you're not
Speaker 4: getting quality starts. It's nights when the defense is off.
Speaker 4: Everything needs to be sharpened up here.
Speaker 2: Ruby, what about you, let's let's do you said four
Speaker 2: or five ish? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: I'm going at eight.
Speaker 3: I'm going at eight because what I see right now
Speaker 3: and has been and now it's been long enough. I
Speaker 3: thought that they would play at least five hundred on
Speaker 3: this road trip.
Speaker 1: And when you get blown out.
Speaker 3: That many times in a road trip, that that really
Speaker 3: concerned me because of the pitching. See, the pitching needs
Speaker 3: to get turned back around.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I was given a lot of love to Caleb Cotham
Speaker 3: and Brian Kaplan and all those guys that were running
Speaker 3: the pitching, but it's not executing now, they're not executing shooting. Uh.
Speaker 1: They look tired. The team looks tired.
Speaker 3: Uh and and it doesn't look like it has the
Speaker 3: same sort of energy.
Speaker 1: Now, losses can do that to.
Speaker 3: You, but in particular, big, big losses can suck the
Speaker 3: energy out of you. And the pitching really needs to
Speaker 3: get turned around. And the pitching is a real concern.
Speaker 3: Suarez needs to come back and be sharp. You've got
Speaker 3: to get a sharper Nola and uh, you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm a big Nola advocate because he's so steady, but
Speaker 3: he needs to be sharper. And you know, Wheels, I
Speaker 3: think it will be fine, but you need to you know,
Speaker 3: Ace like work from Wheels as well. Those three guys
Speaker 3: have to really get going for this team to uh
Speaker 3: to start rolling. And the guys in the back end.
Speaker 3: I love Carlos Steves. I think he's gonna be great
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna be fine. It's just strike
Speaker 3: though he's not afraid. It goes after guys. But you know,
Speaker 3: Hoffman and Alvarado they're gonna have to can you know,
Speaker 3: bounce back, because right now they're not. They're not nearly
Speaker 3: as sharp as as you would hope, and you know,
Speaker 3: you're hopefully that hopefully they're going through that little dead
Speaker 3: arm period, that lull or whatever the case we be,
Speaker 3: and we'll be striking on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: But I'm still at an eight because of the pitching.
Speaker 2: I'd probably be at four. I'm probably at a five
Speaker 2: ish now because of what I mentioned it at the top.
Speaker 2: Now they're in the they're gonna win the division. I
Speaker 2: believe that they're going to win the division. But where
Speaker 2: are they're going to be seated in the postseason race?
Speaker 2: You know, are they gonna Are they gonna let the
Speaker 2: Brewers and the Dodgers pass them by or whoever wins
Speaker 2: the NL West? And now you're talking about playing a
Speaker 2: best of three wildcard series and if, like I mentioned,
Speaker 2: could be the Diamondbacks, and as Bryce said, they ain't scared.
Speaker 2: They ain't scared, So you better get this turned around
Speaker 2: and get that first round by. I do think that's important.
Speaker 2: So you can't let this thing linger around for a
Speaker 2: few more weeks and then oh man, okay, well we're
Speaker 2: just gonna try to get in and get hot at
Speaker 2: the end of the season and had one more series
Speaker 2: in there. He adds one all these different things that
Speaker 2: can pop up and crazy bounce and boom. Now your
Speaker 2: season's over, so they gotta get out figured out.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on uh, I think later. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on Wednesday maybe, and if you we'll take some
Speaker 2: listener questions, some viewer questions, which there should be some
Speaker 2: good ones. If you have any listener questions. If you
Speaker 2: have any questions, shoot them our way. We'll send a
Speaker 2: tweet later today, later tomorrow and then shoot him in
Speaker 2: there and we'll we'll try to get him get to them,
Speaker 2: keep them clean. I know you're frustrated, but but well,
Speaker 2: I guess we can.
Speaker 1: Edit it out. It's to wear words.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, we'll be back on Wednesday. Thanks guys,
Speaker 2: little boys side.
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