WEBVTT - Concerned Now?

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<v Speaker 1>This is called Hamil's Welcome to the Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, everybody, This is the Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Salisbury, Todds Lucky. We're part of the Foul Territory Network.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Monday, August twelfth, twenty twenty four. Gentlemen, coming off

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend in Arizona. Ruben, how was Arizona? Other than

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<v Speaker 2>the play on the field, It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like being on the equator. It was the hottest place

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<v Speaker 1>in the planet. But other than that, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a reminder that the Arizona Diamondbacks have the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies number. I mean, they played baseball exactly how the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies played baseball in the first two months, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what they wanted. That's the kind of baseball that

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<v Speaker 3>the Phillies wanted to play, and they just it was

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<v Speaker 3>a beatdown in a lot of different ways. The pitching,

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<v Speaker 3>the offense, the situational hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>There was all types of things going on.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as just playing baseball is concerned, all the

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<v Speaker 3>things fundamentally, situationally, they just played better baseball. They are

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<v Speaker 3>a very fast team, they're a very athletic team. They

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<v Speaker 3>got exploited in that area. The Phillies pitchers got exploited

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<v Speaker 3>by walking too many people and making too many mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>defensively and leaving too many pitches in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the plate, and the d bas just took advantage of it,

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<v Speaker 3>as simple as that. And the Phillies are going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to figure out what's going on because it's an

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<v Speaker 3>unmitigated disaster right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The pitching's not very starting. Pitching has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Subpar, and they're gonna have to right They're gonna figure

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<v Speaker 3>away to right the ship because right now, if they

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<v Speaker 3>were going to go into a playoff game, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>whether they win the division or not, they'll get knocked

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<v Speaker 3>out quick because the kind of baseball that they're playing

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<v Speaker 3>right now is just not going to get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Those I mean, they're a very good team, the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned their speed and the way they can string

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<v Speaker 4>hits together and and and put put runs on the board,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they also have some power pop too. A

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<v Speaker 4>really nice team playing terrific baseball. You can say they

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<v Speaker 4>have the Phillies number or whatever you want to say.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just out playing the Phillies. You know, going back

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<v Speaker 4>to Game six and seven last year. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching Bryce Harper's post game interview. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a tough series. You lose three out of

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<v Speaker 4>four after taking the first game, and uh, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of disappointment in that room, a lot of disappointment

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<v Speaker 4>etched on his face. And he was asked, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Corey Seideman asked him about the Diamondbacks team and how

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<v Speaker 4>they played, and he made the comment that they're not scared.

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<v Speaker 4>They play the game the right way. They're not scared

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<v Speaker 4>play the game the right way. And you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's our job. We read into things. That's what we

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<v Speaker 4>do as reporters and observers, and my little antennae I

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<v Speaker 4>went right up when I heard that they're not scared,

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<v Speaker 4>they play the game the right way. Bryce is a

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<v Speaker 4>master at messaging and kind of laying it out there.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to read between the lines. Do you think

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<v Speaker 4>there was a message there to possibly some of his

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<v Speaker 4>teammates about them not being scared about playing the game

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<v Speaker 4>the right way. Do you read anything into that comment

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<v Speaker 4>or am I just being a little hyper observant.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that Bryce. You're right. Bryce does not

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<v Speaker 2>say things and not know what he's saying. When he

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<v Speaker 2>says them, very rarely do I feel like he slips up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when it comes from free agency gym. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of springs ago when they got Schwarbi's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll see hopefully they're not done yet. Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Castianos comes aboard, you know, he's he says a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those things, you know, trade deadline, free agency, the

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<v Speaker 2>way the team is playing, So yeah, I absolutely think

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<v Speaker 2>that he might have been trying to send a little

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<v Speaker 2>message there or maybe just trying to wake up, wake

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<v Speaker 2>up this team, which is twenty four and thirty since

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<v Speaker 2>they won that first game in London on June eighth

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty, there's six games under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I observed about it, and the playing

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<v Speaker 3>scared part and playing the right way. I saw some

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<v Speaker 3>situations where guys were not like defensively, some throws that

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<v Speaker 3>were just not thrown with crispness.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys look a little they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They are playing a little timid, and it's it's there.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not making plays that they typically would make. They

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<v Speaker 3>are they're not running balls out the same way. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some concern about in the case of Turner. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>him on many occasions lately where he is not going

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<v Speaker 3>full full bore at times. There was a situation where

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<v Speaker 3>a ball was hitting the gap one time that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he hit a scored. There was a situation where it

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<v Speaker 3>was a groundball double play that no way on the

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<v Speaker 3>planet that he gets doubled up. Where he get doubled up,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not sure whether he's feeling like he can't

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<v Speaker 3>bust him because he's worried about his hamstring or what

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<v Speaker 3>the deal is. I have a feeling that that's probably

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<v Speaker 3>part of it. But there have been some situations where

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<v Speaker 3>there's some players who are not playing with the same

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<v Speaker 3>sort of fervor and I don't know confidence that you

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<v Speaker 3>would typically see in a team that's up what seven

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<v Speaker 3>and a half games on the division, that that's a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>And pitching wise, I don't see guys getting after it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's it's a little everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, guys are coming out of the pendum walking people.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're not, they're not. You're not seeing now

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<v Speaker 3>certain guys, not all of them, now, certain guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>Are getting after it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I if I were going to name people,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Casianos is playing is his tail off right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're doing a lot of things really really well.

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<v Speaker 3>He's having great at bats, he's he's playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing to win. I think that there's guys like

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<v Speaker 3>Strom and those kind of guys that are getting after it.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's some guys that are not getting after it

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And it's pretty and it's a pretty obvious thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they don't start getting after and start gaining

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<v Speaker 3>and regaining their confidence, it's good be an awfully short postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned you mentioned confidence another intangible urgency, sharpness, but urgency.

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<v Speaker 4>They built such a big lead, do you think it

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<v Speaker 4>dulled some of their urgency?

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<v Speaker 2>Todd, Yeah, I wonder. I wonder if it might have

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<v Speaker 2>just looking back at their play recently. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's still their urgency at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that they're really lucky to have

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<v Speaker 2>the lead that they do have because in the division anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I still think they're going to win the division. But

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the standings today and they are tied

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<v Speaker 2>with the Dodgers for the best record. In the National League,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Brewers are only a game and a half

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<v Speaker 2>back of both of those teams. Right, So, now you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting in a situation you talk about urgency. They better

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<v Speaker 2>start picking it up, because now you're starting to get

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation where they might not even get a

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<v Speaker 2>first round by they might have to play the number

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<v Speaker 2>one wild card winner, which right now, as of today,

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<v Speaker 2>would be the Arizona Diamondbacks. You know, that's that's how

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<v Speaker 2>the matchup would would go in the playoffs. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know that, Jim. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're there may be too complacent? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't get that vibe so much, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you might feel differently.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say too complacent, but you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>the way human nature works, you get that big lead,

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<v Speaker 4>you play.

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<v Speaker 6>So well, it might take some of the some of

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<v Speaker 6>the sharpness away.

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<v Speaker 4>There might be a a little bit of complacency and

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's time to kick it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, since I was looking this up, since that

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<v Speaker 4>sweep of Milwaukee at home right before they went to London,

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<v Speaker 4>they're five games under five hundred. Yet they've only lost

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<v Speaker 4>a half game in the standings.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that, right, you know, all of.

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<v Speaker 4>A sudden, I, hey, we really haven't played well, but

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<v Speaker 4>we only lost a half game in the standings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that can probably dull some of your urgency.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the real buzz words around this team since

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<v Speaker 4>Rob Thompson took over in June of twenty two, has

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<v Speaker 4>been the word resilience, almost to the.

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<v Speaker 6>Point where it's been a cliche. Well, it's time to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Some you know, they've been really good at it, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the reason it became a buzzword. They played through

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of injuries. They really scrapped in September of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two. But you know, this prolonged stretch that they've

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<v Speaker 4>gone through really since London, now, I mean the second

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<v Speaker 4>half of the season, since the All Star break. They

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<v Speaker 4>have the second worst record of the major leagues.

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<v Speaker 6>So that will be gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago White Sox. They have the worst record of the

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<v Speaker 4>major leagues. So what are they the team that had

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<v Speaker 4>the best record in baseball? The team you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>they're in the middle and well toward being one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best teams in baseball, But gosh, this funk has

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<v Speaker 4>gone on long enough, it's time to pull yourself out

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<v Speaker 4>of it before you can't and before it bites you

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<v Speaker 4>in October.

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<v Speaker 3>So a couple of things resonate with me. This shows

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<v Speaker 3>me how poor the end National League is. The National

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<v Speaker 3>League's just not a very good league. I don't I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think there's very good There's not that many great

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<v Speaker 3>teams in the National League. And it also brings to

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<v Speaker 3>light to me, you know, the complacency piece, and and

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<v Speaker 3>it also brings to light what how.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good are are the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 3>The talent is there, and they were playing like the

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<v Speaker 3>best team in all of baseball, and they have the

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<v Speaker 3>talent to be the best team in baseball, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>not playing the game as the best team in baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>The teams that are playing the game as the best

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<v Speaker 3>teams in baseball the Milwaukee Brewers and the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>In the National League.

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles is going to get there too, because Mookie

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<v Speaker 3>Betts is coming back. They're going to get some of

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<v Speaker 3>their pitching backs. The more they're starting pitching back, they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're going to get better and better and so

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<v Speaker 3>and in the San Diego Padres, they're playing as a

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<v Speaker 3>team finally, which is something they had not done in

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years. So all of those teams are

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<v Speaker 3>playing better baseball as a team, not necessarily more talented,

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<v Speaker 3>but playing better baseball, and that's what you need. I

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<v Speaker 3>also think back to the comment when I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>Chase Utley, he was there in a Los Angeles. He

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<v Speaker 3>made a tremendous comment and he said, you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>team needed to face the little adversity. They needed to

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<v Speaker 3>figure it because it was crude. They were going cruise control,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe this is a good thing that they will

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<v Speaker 3>come out of it and be better for it. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little bit like developing a young player where

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the guy's just cruising through the minor leagues

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<v Speaker 3>and not ever having any issues. He's hitting you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred or three point fifty, or he has a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, one point two era and never really faces adversity,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when he gets to the big leagues, boom,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all of a sudden, he slapped in the

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<v Speaker 3>face with the Hillary and Bradsby and he can't get

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<v Speaker 3>anybody out. So I think this is a good this

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<v Speaker 3>is a good way of good test for them because

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<v Speaker 3>it's time for them to kick it in, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would not be surprised if Brob Thompson doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>little chat with him. Meetings are can be silly at times,

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<v Speaker 3>but with the way that they're playing baseball right now,

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<v Speaker 3>they do need a little kick in the pants.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, especially with I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was gonna say, they really could use Trey Turner to

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<v Speaker 4>get going too, because he can be such a catalyst.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he was hitting three forty nine going into

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<v Speaker 4>the break. He's lost like forty nine points on his average,

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<v Speaker 4>almost fifty points on his batting average, and his OPS

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<v Speaker 4>is plummeted. It's just had a very poor run here

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<v Speaker 4>in the second half. It like a buck buck eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>He can be such a catalytic player. It would be

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<v Speaker 4>nice to see him really really turn it on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Harper's been pretty good, Castianos has been good for a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of months. It's such a drop off and once

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<v Speaker 4>you get to the middle of that lineup with Stott

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<v Speaker 4>and Marsh really struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that those two guys who really need to pick

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<v Speaker 3>it up, Stott and Marsh have been really.

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<v Speaker 1>Not very good. I mean, Chipple is that JT.

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<v Speaker 3>They're Yeah, they just haven't been good, and and and

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<v Speaker 3>Stott and Marsha. They just need to be better. There

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<v Speaker 3>are bats need to be better. And don't be surprised

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't see some shakeup in the lineup and

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<v Speaker 3>or the roster, if some of these guys don't start

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<v Speaker 3>picking it up. I'm just gonna say that because I

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<v Speaker 3>know Dave Dombrowski. He is patient and he I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he understands the game. But if you're not performing, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a performance space. I mean, they're here, they're here

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<v Speaker 3>to win, baby. So if guys don't start playing the game,

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<v Speaker 3>you may see some you may see some things change

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<v Speaker 3>in this lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do with the lineup and what would

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<v Speaker 2>you do the roster?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you bump down trade until he gets going? Move

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<v Speaker 2>up Castianosh? You know what would you guys do?

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would move to Castianos because Castianos is

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<v Speaker 3>having quality at bats like day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no question he's having the best most quality of

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<v Speaker 3>bats on the team. He and Schwarber I think are

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<v Speaker 3>having the best, you know, as far as uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Harper as well. I mean, he's he's out back.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, After that, very very difficult stretch he's had.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the guys that are getting it done right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you send somebody out one of the you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I would think about it like Stought or marsh It.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be something that would least I mean, listen, no

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<v Speaker 3>one's immune. I mean Divon White years ago got sent

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<v Speaker 3>down after being in the big leagues for three years.

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<v Speaker 3>I played with him in California with the California AIE

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<v Speaker 3>is down at Edmonton.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are you doing down here? Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it can be It can be a shock that

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<v Speaker 4>can get some guys going. I mean Alvarado went down

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago. It was very much remedial

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<v Speaker 4>because he came back with that cutter.

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<v Speaker 6>He did good things with it. Maybe, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 6>I bet.

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<v Speaker 4>Mentally it was a bit of a shock to his

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<v Speaker 4>pride and it kicked him in a little bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think anything should be on the table. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>team that doesn't do a lot of that because you

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<v Speaker 4>got a patience.

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<v Speaker 1>GM.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got a patient man. If you're but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a shake up in the lineup, something well placed

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<v Speaker 4>might have positive benefit. I'm not you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying you exile somebody for the whole season, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can send a bit of a message, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>roll a grenade figurative grenade through that clubhouse and wake

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<v Speaker 4>some people up.

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<v Speaker 2>Trade Like, yeah, four guys who trade ops since that

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers sweep in mid July five seventy four JT five

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<v Speaker 2>sixty two dot five twelve marsh four forty five. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a few days ago we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>him having some better bats against lefties. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's he's really been he's really been struggling. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would it would be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>how they would do that and what they would do

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<v Speaker 2>and how they would message it, because this is a

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<v Speaker 2>team that you know, talks about, you know, resiliency and

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<v Speaker 2>not panicking and and but but on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, we're twenty four and thirty since

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<v Speaker 2>since June eighth. Listen, you have to perform for six

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<v Speaker 2>games under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to perform. You have to play winning baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're not performing and you're striking out at

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<v Speaker 3>a forty percent rate, or you're not getting on base,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Not contributing offensively, then.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody else has to take that place and replace that

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<v Speaker 3>offensive I mean it's been going on for.

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<v Speaker 1>A while now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not like like two weeks. This is two

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<v Speaker 3>months almost, and so you know something's gonna have to change.

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<v Speaker 3>And the complacency piece that that would change it if

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<v Speaker 3>someone was shaken up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you get some people's attention, and it could

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<v Speaker 4>have a very positive effect.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 4>But for a team, an organization that you know, really

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<v Speaker 4>prides itself on being even keeled, maybe it's a maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a lineup shakeup. Maybe if somebody says for

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of days, just get somebody's attention, you never

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<v Speaker 4>know where it might go.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything on the pitching side that has you,

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<v Speaker 2>guys concerned?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything? Everything does?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything does?

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<v Speaker 3>Everything does? I mean, listen, this is the best starting

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<v Speaker 3>rotation in baseball. It is no longer the best starting

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<v Speaker 3>rotation in baseball. I mean, Suarez coming back is great,

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<v Speaker 3>Tywan Walker's coming back on Tuesday, that's that's fine. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not a world beater, but he's gonna eat up some

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<v Speaker 3>innings and and in fact, you know, the other guys

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<v Speaker 3>are good Kobe Aller did a good job, and Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips has done a decent job. But the other big boys,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna have to pitch better. Aaron did not pitch well.

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<v Speaker 3>They have his number and and he he has not been,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pitching all that well. I mean he's fairly consistent,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, he needs to dominate a game or

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<v Speaker 3>two here. And uh, you know, Christopher Sanchez I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna I thought he's good a deal yesterday and

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<v Speaker 3>he really did not have command of his stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>so he got beat up. But the but the bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>is another issue. I mean, Alvarado clearly is struggling. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pitches in the middle of the plate, hopmins,

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<v Speaker 3>hopmins been lights out, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>he only leaves a couple of pitches in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the play. He's getting whacked around a little bit. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's I mean, it hasn't been good. It's as simple

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<v Speaker 3>as that. They're better than this. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 3>any question. But they're gonna have to have to start

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<v Speaker 3>executing or it's gonna be an ugly couple of months.

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez has an era in the mid sixes since he

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<v Speaker 2>won Pitcher of the Month in June. I mean, Noah's

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<v Speaker 2>era is almost you know, four seven five in his

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<v Speaker 2>last eleven starts. So both of those guys are really wheelers.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's had those two terrible starts where he gave

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<v Speaker 2>up like seven runs, but other other than that, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been okay, I say, other than that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then then as oftentimes, they don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of margin forever because the hitting with Mars and scoring position,

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<v Speaker 4>which you know has really not been good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in this series at Arizona. You get these runners

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<v Speaker 4>out there, you've got to find a way to deliver them.

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<v Speaker 4>And they had you know, they had a game where

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<v Speaker 4>they were i mean they were seven for thirty four

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<v Speaker 4>with runners in scoring position two h six in this series.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there were opportunities they just didn't get them

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<v Speaker 4>in and that can make a difference on the pitching

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<v Speaker 4>staff as well. But Sanchez and Nola in this series

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of balls over the plate, and that's a

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<v Speaker 4>team that will hurt you, and they got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>When you have to start thinking about pitching and not

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<v Speaker 3>giving up a run because you're not getting the support

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<v Speaker 3>then that baseball gets a little tighter, gets a little heavier,

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<v Speaker 3>and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to get every pitch becomes even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Stressful, and you know you're having a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>happen at the same time. No part of their game

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<v Speaker 3>right now is going well, not one.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you do you think I mean, they really struggled again.

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<v Speaker 4>Every team they've played since the break has been five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred or better and they've struggled seven to fifteen. Now

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to see Miami and Washington. Do you think

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<v Speaker 4>that could cure some things here? And also they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>see Citizens Bank Park and it's gonna be banged out.

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<v Speaker 4>They've had a day off, but you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we've talked about this before. Okay, day off, they're

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<v Speaker 4>coming home. This is gonna get them going and then

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't. But these are two poor teams. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>play down to their level. You've gotta come out, you got.

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<v Speaker 6>To you gotta take hold of these games early, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you've got to tag on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I was looking at this series, this

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<v Speaker 2>homestand gym. I hate to like overstate the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>a homestand, but you almost need them to like go

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<v Speaker 2>four and two at least, and just pound the crap

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<v Speaker 2>out of these teams all week long and just brutalize them.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you go three and three against the Marlins

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nationals, I mean, that's gonna be deflating, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think, and just kind of get people to be

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more concerned. So, you know, the Marlins

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<v Speaker 2>are terrible, the Nationals are not a winning baseball team.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think they got to go at least four

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<v Speaker 2>and two, you know, And I hate doing that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to win games.

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<v Speaker 1>That I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But all right, you've been talking about how you played

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<v Speaker 2>a really tough schedule. So if you're talking about playing

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<v Speaker 2>a really tough schedule, this is not a really tough schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a really tough schedule in the homestand

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<v Speaker 2>so you got to take care of business against these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The time is now, boys, time is now.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to start playing really good baseball, and they don't,

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<v Speaker 3>it's then the panic button will be struck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, last week, as we had answered some reader

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<v Speaker 2>questions or reader questions, listener viewer questions, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>them was give us your level of concern, level of

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<v Speaker 2>worry about the Phillies play right now. This was last

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday we did this. Jim, you said one point five. Rubin,

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<v Speaker 2>you said if you were a player zero. You said,

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<v Speaker 2>as a lifelong Philadelphia and the Phillies fan. Nine you said,

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<v Speaker 2>GM six seven, And then you said overall, though your

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<v Speaker 2>your vibe is a four to five, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>was about a two or a three. Jim. As your

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<v Speaker 2>one point five s increased, I guess it can't have decrease.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you on the one point five?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm still at one point five on the

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<v Speaker 4>warrior meter, but my ticked off meter is going up

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<v Speaker 4>to about an eight because it's tough to watch this

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<v Speaker 4>stuff when you know they're better than they are. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so maybe I'm parsing words, but I'm still not overly

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<v Speaker 4>worried because they're going to play in the postseason and

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<v Speaker 4>whoever gets hot is going to go, you know, crazy

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<v Speaker 4>through the postseason. But you know, it would really behoove

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 4>them to go into the postseason playing much better ball

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 4>than they are now. There's time to get things going,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, it would be good to see trade

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 4>turn and get going. I think he you know, he's hot.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of reverberates through the entire lineup, and it

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<v Speaker 4>would be good to get some depth in. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the one through nine is such a big drop off

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<v Speaker 4>after kind of like number five in the batting order.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to get all those guys calling.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm still not that worried because they're gonna play

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 4>in the postseason. They got a big cushion, but frustrated,

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 4>ticked off. I certainly can understand what people why people

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 4>would feel that way for what they what they're watching,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's just not fun.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of a shorter watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't deliver runners in the scoring position, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>getting quality starts. It's nights when the defense is off.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything needs to be sharpened up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Ruby, what about you, let's let's do you said four

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<v Speaker 2>or five ish? Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going at eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going at eight because what I see right now

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<v Speaker 3>and has been and now it's been long enough. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that they would play at least five hundred on

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<v Speaker 3>this road trip.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you get blown out.

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<v Speaker 3>That many times in a road trip, that that really

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<v Speaker 3>concerned me because of the pitching. See, the pitching needs

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<v Speaker 3>to get turned back around.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was given a lot of love to Caleb Cotham

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<v Speaker 3>and Brian Kaplan and all those guys that were running

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<v Speaker 3>the pitching, but it's not executing now, they're not executing shooting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They look tired. The team looks tired.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and and it doesn't look like it has the

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<v Speaker 3>same sort of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, losses can do that to.

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<v Speaker 3>You, but in particular, big, big losses can suck the

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<v Speaker 3>energy out of you. And the pitching really needs to

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<v Speaker 3>get turned around. And the pitching is a real concern.

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<v Speaker 3>Suarez needs to come back and be sharp. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to get a sharper Nola and uh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big Nola advocate because he's so steady, but

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<v Speaker 3>he needs to be sharper. And you know, Wheels, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it will be fine, but you need to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ace like work from Wheels as well. Those three guys

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<v Speaker 3>have to really get going for this team to uh

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<v Speaker 3>to start rolling. And the guys in the back end.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Carlos Steves. I think he's gonna be great

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he's gonna be fine. It's just strike

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<v Speaker 3>though he's not afraid. It goes after guys. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Hoffman and Alvarado they're gonna have to can you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bounce back, because right now they're not. They're not nearly

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<v Speaker 3>as sharp as as you would hope, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're hopefully that hopefully they're going through that little dead

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<v Speaker 3>arm period, that lull or whatever the case we be,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll be striking on all cylinders.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still at an eight because of the pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably be at four. I'm probably at a five

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<v Speaker 2>ish now because of what I mentioned it at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're in the they're gonna win the division. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that they're going to win the division. But where

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<v Speaker 2>are they're going to be seated in the postseason race?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, are they gonna Are they gonna let the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers and the Dodgers pass them by or whoever wins

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<v Speaker 2>the NL West? And now you're talking about playing a

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<v Speaker 2>best of three wildcard series and if, like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>could be the Diamondbacks, and as Bryce said, they ain't scared.

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<v Speaker 2>They ain't scared, So you better get this turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and get that first round by. I do think that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't let this thing linger around for a

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<v Speaker 2>few more weeks and then oh man, okay, well we're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna try to get in and get hot at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season and had one more series

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<v Speaker 2>in there. He adds one all these different things that

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<v Speaker 2>can pop up and crazy bounce and boom. Now your

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<v Speaker 2>season's over, so they gotta get out figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on uh, I think later. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back on Wednesday maybe, and if you we'll take some

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<v Speaker 2>listener questions, some viewer questions, which there should be some

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<v Speaker 2>good ones. If you have any listener questions. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have any questions, shoot them our way. We'll send a

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<v Speaker 2>tweet later today, later tomorrow and then shoot him in

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<v Speaker 2>there and we'll we'll try to get him get to them,

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<v Speaker 2>keep them clean. I know you're frustrated, but but well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Edit it out. It's to wear words.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, we'll be back on Wednesday. Thanks guys,

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<v Speaker 2>little boys side.

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