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Speaker 1: All right, so now let's get um, but a lot
Speaker 1: of really good questions. A lot of the questions, UM,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people that our golfers want
Speaker 1: to know kind of how golfers practice. Um, what goes
Speaker 1: into that whole process? And UM, I had a lot
Speaker 1: of questions about the work that I've been doing with Brooks.
Speaker 1: Haven't really talked about that. UM started working with Brooks again,
Speaker 1: UM about maybe a month and a half two months ago.
Speaker 1: It was at the live event in Bedminster, and UM,
Speaker 1: he asked me for some help on the Saturday night
Speaker 1: and UH, watch him hits the balls for about minutes
Speaker 1: on the on the on the Saturday night. And then
Speaker 1: on Sunday he asked if I could get to the
Speaker 1: golf course, UM, a little bit early before they teat off,
Speaker 1: and we did some work. And UM We've been working,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much ever since. I think everybody knows.
Speaker 1: He finally got to win, which a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: which I think was really really big for Brooks. UM.
Speaker 1: But I mean the interesting thing is, and in this
Speaker 1: whole kind of PGA tour lives stuff. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I worked with Brooks for eight years when four majors
Speaker 1: a bunch of golf tournaments got to number one in
Speaker 1: the world. UM. And this is not propaganda, this is
Speaker 1: not spin. I have never seen him work harder in
Speaker 1: the last two months then he I mean, he didn't
Speaker 1: work this hard, didn't practice this much, wasn't putting in
Speaker 1: this amount of time on his golf swing, UM, when
Speaker 1: he was the number one player in the world. And UM,
Speaker 1: I think it's been really really interesting to to to
Speaker 1: watch um just how dedicated he is. Listen, I mean Brooks.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows the type of character Brooks is, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: Brooks has UM he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Um,
Speaker 1: he's got you know, a big, big ego, big persona. UM.
Speaker 1: And he didn't like the way he was playing golf.
Speaker 1: He didn't like the way he was performing. He didn't
Speaker 1: like the shots that he was sing on the golf course. UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, full disclosure, we we really hadn't even
Speaker 1: really talked. I mean, I guarantee you and I got
Speaker 1: let go by Brooks at the end of November, um
Speaker 1: or right after the Masters that DJ won in November,
Speaker 1: and up until the time that that that we kind
Speaker 1: of started working back together again. Uh. We we didn't talk,
Speaker 1: we didn't spend any time together. So UM, I just
Speaker 1: think that anybody that thinks that professional golfers, regardless of
Speaker 1: where they're playing, don't care. Um, it's it's just not
Speaker 1: the case. And and Brooks is working as hard as
Speaker 1: I've seen him work. Um. A out of what we
Speaker 1: did was just kind of getting back to basics a
Speaker 1: lot of Brooks's problems. UM. And this is something I
Speaker 1: think everybody listening can can kind of take to their
Speaker 1: own game. A lot of what goes wrong for Brooks
Speaker 1: happens before he hits the golf ball. My dad has
Speaker 1: always said that it takes no athletic or golf ability
Speaker 1: to set up to the golf ball, ball position, posture, alignment,
Speaker 1: all of those things. Uh So, when I when I
Speaker 1: saw Brooks, and I hadn't seen him really play in
Speaker 1: almost two years. UM, a lot of the changes that
Speaker 1: we made to his golf swing were set up related. Um.
Speaker 1: He had gotten the golf ball a little bit back
Speaker 1: in his stance, which when he tries to fade the
Speaker 1: golf ball, which is the predominant shape that he likes
Speaker 1: to play, it's tough to fade it from that position. Um.
Speaker 1: The ball position had gotten back, which for Brooks always
Speaker 1: tends to get his shoulders a little bit on the
Speaker 1: close side. Um. And it's someone that likes to fade
Speaker 1: the golf ball. That's a tough fit when you're trying
Speaker 1: to hit a fade with the ball position back and
Speaker 1: your shoulders kind of close. His left arm tends to
Speaker 1: ride up really really high, the right arm tends to
Speaker 1: get a little bit on the low side. And um, so,
Speaker 1: a lot of the changes we made and and he
Speaker 1: was starting to aim a little bit kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit too far to the right, and his shoulders
Speaker 1: were getting a little bit open. So he kind of
Speaker 1: had the open stance to the right, open shoulders to
Speaker 1: the left, close stance to the right, ball position back.
Speaker 1: And even though he was trying to take the golf
Speaker 1: club a little bit more on the outside, which is
Speaker 1: where Brooks plays his best golf, because of the setup,
Speaker 1: because of the ball position, and because of the shoulder position,
Speaker 1: he just couldn't get the golf club to go back
Speaker 1: in the in the right way. So as soon as
Speaker 1: we moved the golf ball a little bit forward, I
Speaker 1: actually had him. I feel like his shoulders were almost open,
Speaker 1: like the right arm, the right forearm was higher than
Speaker 1: the left. Um that wasn't the case, but it was
Speaker 1: an exaggerated feel and it was funny, you know, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: get the ball position. We're hitting seven irons. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: get the ball position a little bit more forward. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like your shoulders are more open. Um aim
Speaker 1: a little bit more left. And we looked at some
Speaker 1: videos and we looked at some pictures, and I think
Speaker 1: he was he was blown away at at how strange
Speaker 1: that felt relative to what he thought it was going
Speaker 1: to look like. I mean, he thought the ball was
Speaker 1: gonna be off his left toe. It wasn't. He thought
Speaker 1: his shoulders were going to be wide open. They weren't.
Speaker 1: But as soon as we were able to get the
Speaker 1: set up and what was happening before he started making
Speaker 1: a golf swing, it then was part of the domino
Speaker 1: effect that allowed the backswing to get into a better position.
Speaker 1: And that is one of the things that we've worked on.
Speaker 1: We've tried to get the takeaway to get more square,
Speaker 1: more outside. He was getting the golf club a little
Speaker 1: bit on the inside. Brooks has always played his best
Speaker 1: as a fader of the golf ball when the golf
Speaker 1: club works in front of him going back, and then
Speaker 1: the club works in front of him coming down, and
Speaker 1: then he's able to rotate and turn through impact. When
Speaker 1: when we started back together. His divot pattern was really
Speaker 1: really deep. He was taking really really deep divots, and
Speaker 1: his trajectory was kind of all over the place. He'd
Speaker 1: hit a high one, he'd hit a bullet low one,
Speaker 1: and he honestly he had a double miss. He'd had
Speaker 1: balls that would start left and go left. He'd have
Speaker 1: balls that would start right and go right. So we
Speaker 1: went back to some of the things that we worked
Speaker 1: on UM in the past. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that I worked on that we worked on a lot
Speaker 1: um that I like to work on with players is
Speaker 1: is where is the golf ball starting relative to what
Speaker 1: shot you're trying to hit. So I had Brooks, you know,
Speaker 1: go ahead and pick out a target, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just hit me ten balls that start left of
Speaker 1: your target. I don't care where they go, but hit
Speaker 1: me ten balls that start left of your target, and
Speaker 1: let's just focus on where they're starting. Let's don't worry
Speaker 1: about where they're going to go. Let's worry about where
Speaker 1: they're going to start. And if we can start them
Speaker 1: left of the target consistently, then we can start to
Speaker 1: manage the face because we know UM, for Brooks, if
Speaker 1: he's starting the golf ball consistently left of his target.
Speaker 1: He's doing a good job with managing what the path
Speaker 1: is doing. Um And the other thing that tends to
Speaker 1: happen when when Brooks gets the golf ball back and
Speaker 1: the shoulders get a little bit closed at address coming down,
Speaker 1: the path gets a little bit too neutral, and then
Speaker 1: Brooks can really really kind of drag and drive the
Speaker 1: handle forward with For a lot of people that's a
Speaker 1: great impact position, but for what Brooks is trying to do,
Speaker 1: that's the death move for him with all of his
Speaker 1: speed and his power, because he basically just holds the
Speaker 1: face and just hits kind of what you know what
Speaker 1: I kind of term is kind of big block white cuts,
Speaker 1: or he gets tired of doing that and he hits
Speaker 1: the snap book. So as soon as we were able
Speaker 1: to get the path in a better position, he was
Speaker 1: also better getting into a better impact position. Brooks can
Speaker 1: also at times hang back behind the golf ball and
Speaker 1: get a lot of what we would call side bend
Speaker 1: where he's hit the left shoulder gets really really high,
Speaker 1: the right shoulder gets really really low. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, hang back and and and bending back
Speaker 1: to the right. For him to try and start it online.
Speaker 1: Once we were able to get him to feel like
Speaker 1: the club was a little bit more in front of
Speaker 1: the body, get the club exiting a little bit more
Speaker 1: around his body to the low and to the left,
Speaker 1: then his shoulders actually start to turn a little bit
Speaker 1: more level through impact and they don't get kind of
Speaker 1: so kind of left shoulder high, right shoulder low. And
Speaker 1: and the divot pattern. He's the one thing that I
Speaker 1: noticed UM last week in Miami. The divot pattern is
Speaker 1: actually he's actually you using the bounce on the on
Speaker 1: on on all the irons that he's using. And the
Speaker 1: quality of the contact, the contact the mean the club
Speaker 1: and the ball and the way the club is interacting
Speaker 1: with the ground has been basically what it was back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen. UM. I know Brooks, which
Speaker 1: is there was three or four more tournaments that he
Speaker 1: could play in UM because he's playing that good. His
Speaker 1: ball striking right now UM is on a par with
Speaker 1: what it was when he was number one in the world.
Speaker 1: And the quality of the strike the hit. Brooks has
Speaker 1: always had a very very heavy, heavy hit to the
Speaker 1: golf ball. UM, so that's really started to come back.
Speaker 1: He started to drive the golf ball better. Um, he's
Speaker 1: starting to drive the golf ball further. Um. A lot
Speaker 1: of the guys that have played with him in the
Speaker 1: last month have come up to me afterwards and said, Dude,
Speaker 1: this guy's hitting it as far as I've seen him
Speaker 1: hit it. Um. But to be honest, a lot of
Speaker 1: the changes that we made were all happening before anything
Speaker 1: happened with the golf swing. It's just the way that
Speaker 1: he was setting up to golf ball and it is
Speaker 1: something that that I think everybody listening could could take
Speaker 1: something from grip, posture, alignment, all of those things. They're
Speaker 1: not fancy, they're not sexy, but they have a dramatic
Speaker 1: effect on what's happening with the golf club and what's
Speaker 1: happening with your your shots. So Um, as soon as
Speaker 1: Brooks gets the golf club in these positions and starts
Speaker 1: to see the golf ball in practice, in his warm ups,
Speaker 1: in his practice rounds UM, it gives him a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of confidence. I mean, tour players guys are no
Speaker 1: different than than the rest of us. We we all
Speaker 1: play golf through confidence. If you're hitting a lot of fairways,
Speaker 1: if you're hitting a lot of greens. Um, you're going
Speaker 1: to make better swings. You can get the golf ball
Speaker 1: and play off the tea regardless of what your handicapped
Speaker 1: level is. You can get the golf ball in a
Speaker 1: fair way. You're going to play better golf because your
Speaker 1: your confidence is gonna go up. So it's been fun. Um,
Speaker 1: it's been fun to see kind of Brooks Um, you
Speaker 1: know not it's it's actually been fun to kind of
Speaker 1: see him get a little bit of swagger back, um
Speaker 1: and have the confidence back. Um because you know when
Speaker 1: I when he asked me to start you know, helping
Speaker 1: him again, Um, he had none of that. I mean
Speaker 1: he had no idea where the golf ball was going. Um,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a consistent shape. And for him to
Speaker 1: get that shape back has been you know, massive for him. Um.
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see Brooks three comeback healthier, Um,
Speaker 1: ready to go. And you know, I think you're going
Speaker 1: to see him have chances to win golf tournaments regardless
Speaker 1: of where he is playing. Big week last week for
Speaker 1: Pat perez Man, I mean we did some big time
Speaker 1: overhaul uh to his golf swing. Last week. He did
Speaker 1: not play good in in Saudi Arabia, especially the last
Speaker 1: two days, he just he just didn't have it. It
Speaker 1: was windy, he wasn't hitting it solid. Um. We were
Speaker 1: trying to cycle through a bunch of ideas and swing thoughts. Um.
Speaker 1: We got down to Miami, Um, we were that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't play until Saturday, and we grinded Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday pretty much all day. Um. So I
Speaker 1: was talking about Brooks, how Brooks likes to fade the
Speaker 1: golf ball when the golf club gets too much on
Speaker 1: the inside, he struggles. Pat wants to be able to
Speaker 1: draw the golf ball. So basically, Um, all the stuff
Speaker 1: that we were working on I was working on with
Speaker 1: Brooks last week, I'm working on the hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: degree opposite with Pat. We were trying to have him
Speaker 1: get the golf club to go a little bit more
Speaker 1: on the inside, because one of Pat's issues is the
Speaker 1: golf club tends to go a little bit. He kind
Speaker 1: of has to where he addresses it almost in the heel,
Speaker 1: and then on the back swing the club almost goes
Speaker 1: a little bit on the out. And when that happens, Um,
Speaker 1: it's not so much what's happening with the golf club
Speaker 1: on the back swing? Pat, Then on the back swing,
Speaker 1: his lower body starts kind of going towards the golf
Speaker 1: ball a little bit on the back swing. We call
Speaker 1: that early extension. Had a question about that, can you,
Speaker 1: you know, be a great ball striker if your lower
Speaker 1: body is getting closer to the golf ball m on
Speaker 1: the down swing. Pat's always going to have a little
Speaker 1: bit of that move on the down swing because he
Speaker 1: plays very much UM as a lateral player. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of rotation in his golf swing. UM.
Speaker 1: So one of the ways that he has to draw
Speaker 1: the golf balls, he has to draw the golf ball
Speaker 1: by feeling like the backswing and the downswing are working
Speaker 1: really kind of inside on the backswing and then into
Speaker 1: out on the down swing. But by letting him or
Speaker 1: by having him feel like the golf club was going
Speaker 1: very much on the inside going back, his right leg
Speaker 1: was actually straightening a little, but it was actually helping
Speaker 1: his lower body not move out of the way, not
Speaker 1: move closer to the golf ball. UM on the back swing.
Speaker 1: And he changed on Monday. He changed to a new driver,
Speaker 1: changed to a new chef, and changed to a brand
Speaker 1: new golf ball. Um and played really really good um
Speaker 1: on Saturday in the in the team competition with Taylor
Speaker 1: Gooch and then on a really really hard golf course. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's played trump de ral, but um,
Speaker 1: they call it the Blue Monster for a reason. It's
Speaker 1: a hard golf course. Um, it was blowing. The rough
Speaker 1: is really really I mean the rough just berries. I
Speaker 1: mean you hit a ball in the rough in the
Speaker 1: practice rounds, we were struggling to fine golf ball. So
Speaker 1: um he shut two under. UM. I think they're only
Speaker 1: maybe two other guys that shut lower scores than he did. Um. Listen,
Speaker 1: he's an easy punching bag. Um for a lot of
Speaker 1: the people that you know, I want that as their narrative.
Speaker 1: But I was really proud of the way he played
Speaker 1: last week. Um and uh it was a really really
Speaker 1: solid performance. UM. I think he was really proud of himself.
Speaker 1: Um and uh he needed to come through. UM. You
Speaker 1: know the way the team format works, all four scores
Speaker 1: counted on Sunday, and you know, Pat made a lot
Speaker 1: of really good clutch par pots from five eight, ten,
Speaker 1: um fifteen ft um. Any of those pots don't go in,
Speaker 1: they don't win. And then um, he was finishing on
Speaker 1: the eleventh hole. Ninth hole is a long, long, part
Speaker 1: three water all the way on the right, bunker's left.
Speaker 1: He stood up, hit it left of the flag, right
Speaker 1: in the middle of the green, pin high and hold
Speaker 1: the pot. He could have easily bailed out hit in
Speaker 1: the bunker, which a lot of guys were doing. Um,
Speaker 1: he could have rinsed one in the water. But he
Speaker 1: needed to stand up and hit a good shot. And
Speaker 1: he did the ten poles Part five. Um, the further
Speaker 1: obviously down you can get it, the better. And he
Speaker 1: said that he said to his caddy, um, h, I've
Speaker 1: been doing this on the range all day, every day,
Speaker 1: all this week. I've just got to stand up and
Speaker 1: trust it and hit a great shot. And I think
Speaker 1: that's something really really important for everyone listening about that. Um,
Speaker 1: the mindset of standing up and trying to hit a
Speaker 1: good shot as opposed to trying to not hit a
Speaker 1: bad shot. And and Pat said afterwards that, um, he
Speaker 1: was really, really really it was proud of the fact
Speaker 1: that he stood up. And he said on both nine
Speaker 1: and ten when it counted at the end of the round.
Speaker 1: At the end of the tournament. He hit the shots
Speaker 1: that he needed to hit, and partly, you know, Pat
Speaker 1: can have a really really negative attitude at times, you know,
Speaker 1: really negative. And um, he stood up and he said
Speaker 1: on nine, he said, I didn't think about the water
Speaker 1: to the right. I didn't think about the bunkers to
Speaker 1: the left. I said, I'm gonna start this at the
Speaker 1: flag and hit a little draw and try and get
Speaker 1: it in there about pin high. And that's the shot
Speaker 1: he executed, standing on the tenth faraway dog leg from
Speaker 1: right to left, water all the way down the left
Speaker 1: hand side. So any miss that's left is in trouble.
Speaker 1: Any miss that's to the right is gonna end up
Speaker 1: in the rough and you're not gonna have a chance
Speaker 1: to get to the green. Same thing. Stood up, said
Speaker 1: that he focused on hitting a good shot, wasn't thinking
Speaker 1: about any of the negative things. Wasn't thinking about the
Speaker 1: water to the left, wasn't thinking about you know, the
Speaker 1: thick rough to the right. But stood up and made
Speaker 1: a really really good drivers swing and he said, trusted it.
Speaker 1: He said, I trusted what I was doing all week.
Speaker 1: And I think that is so important for everybody listening
Speaker 1: to take to their own game, to take to the
Speaker 1: driving range. It's so easy to go into all of
Speaker 1: these shots and think about all the places you could
Speaker 1: hit them, or all the places that you don't want
Speaker 1: to hit them, But to stand up and actually focus
Speaker 1: on hitting a good shot as opposed to trying to
Speaker 1: not hit a bad shot, trying not to hit it
Speaker 1: in the water, trying not to hit it into the bunker.
Speaker 1: You're not going to hit good shots when you do that.
Speaker 1: That's just it's just not to happen. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: negative thoughts in your head will make your body do
Speaker 1: things that you're trying to have them not do. It's
Speaker 1: the opposite. And UM, I think it was a great
Speaker 1: example in watching UM those two shots of what being
Speaker 1: under pressure but standing up and focusing on a lot
Speaker 1: of positive things as opposed to a lot of negative things.
Speaker 1: And UM. Lastly, Dustin Johnson. UM, listen, Dustin Johnson is playing.
Speaker 1: So I've worked with DJ for over decade now, and
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson is playing some of the best golf I've
Speaker 1: seen him play. UM. If there was a major championship
Speaker 1: next week, UM, Dustin Johnson is going to be one
Speaker 1: of the favorites. UM. I think Um Brooks Kepco would
Speaker 1: be one of the favorites. That's how good they're playing. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard a lot of comments no competition,
Speaker 1: weak fields. At the end of the day. Last time
Speaker 1: I looked, UM, you're not playing against the field, You're
Speaker 1: playing against the scorecard. You're playing against the golf course.
Speaker 1: So regardless of where you're playing golf. You know, I
Speaker 1: remember my dad once, Um he I think he either
Speaker 1: shot fifty nine or sixty and UM, I think it's
Speaker 1: one of the lowest scores he's ever shot. But it
Speaker 1: was a nine whole municipal course that he played twice.
Speaker 1: And somebody said, oh, well, you know, I mean, doesn't
Speaker 1: he can't really count if you're playing, you know, the
Speaker 1: same nine holes, And he's like, I still have to
Speaker 1: hit all the shots right. And regardless of what people's
Speaker 1: opinions are about live or what you're you know what
Speaker 1: side you're on. Um, Dustin Johnson is playing some of
Speaker 1: the best golf right now that I've seen him play.
Speaker 1: And the guy has been the only two people that
Speaker 1: have been number one in the world longer than than
Speaker 1: DJ or Tiger and Greg Norman. That's it, um, and
Speaker 1: So if I'm telling you that the guys playing some
Speaker 1: of the best golf I've ever seen him play, UM,
Speaker 1: I think you should believe it. Because he's hitting the shots. UM.
Speaker 1: He's driving the ball as good as I've seen him
Speaker 1: drive the golf ball in a very, very long time. UM.
Speaker 1: His wedge game has really really come back. Really for
Speaker 1: the last two years, he's driven the ball like ship
Speaker 1: and he's his wedge game has been horrendous. UM. And
Speaker 1: he'd admit that. And you know, he's been putting in
Speaker 1: the work. UM. And I think partly for DJ, and
Speaker 1: again this is something that everybody can listen to. It's
Speaker 1: confidence you put. You know, in the eight events that
Speaker 1: that DJ played on the Live Tour in fourteen rounds
Speaker 1: in the sixties, UM, he was playing like the Dustin
Speaker 1: Johnson that was the number one player in the world. UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the way he played UM
Speaker 1: in the last eight tournaments, UM, it gives me a
Speaker 1: lot of confidence moving forward with where his game is at.
Speaker 1: And UM, I know I keep saying this, but confidence
Speaker 1: is so so big for these guys. And you just
Speaker 1: don't you think that all of these guys you know
Speaker 1: that you watch on TV, the girls on the LPGA tour. UM.
Speaker 1: Wherever players are playing golf, you think that everybody is
Speaker 1: just hugely confident and has a hundred percent you know,
Speaker 1: control of what they're doing. And you know, most of
Speaker 1: the times it's not like that. UM. But it's been
Speaker 1: really fun UM to watch DJ play, UM, to watch
Speaker 1: him drive the golf ball the way he's driven it. UM.
Speaker 1: It's it's been a lot of fun UM, a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of reps with DJ. UM. DJ's warm ups
Speaker 1: I've talked to about this before. UM. He's about an
Speaker 1: hour and a half UM, so he's hitting a lot
Speaker 1: of balls in his warm ups. UM. And he sometimes
Speaker 1: every now and again, you know, in around you know,
Speaker 1: we'll get to get about thirty minutes before he t
Speaker 1: is off and he'll say, you know, I just felt something.
Speaker 1: And I actually always think that it's really really good
Speaker 1: when a player that I'm working with, especially at the
Speaker 1: at the tour level, if they find something or feel
Speaker 1: something on their own that I'm not telling them that
Speaker 1: they as the player are able to go you know,
Speaker 1: I felt this, and it I always kind of like
Speaker 1: it when it's in a way that I'm not telling
Speaker 1: them to do right. I kind of like that when
Speaker 1: a player says, you know, I kind of felt you know,
Speaker 1: and they put what they're trying to work on in
Speaker 1: their own words as opposed to just me telling them
Speaker 1: what to work on. And DJ does that a lot.
Speaker 1: I think DJ probably does that more than you know,
Speaker 1: any player that I've ever been around, because, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, he is the ultimate field player. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: think so the way he plays golf because his strength
Speaker 1: is speed, power dominating with the driver. But DJ is
Speaker 1: very very much a field golfer, a field player. UM yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's been fun to watch the way
Speaker 1: that he has played. It's been fun to watch the
Speaker 1: way that Brooks has played because when those two guys
Speaker 1: are playing at the top of their game, UM, I
Speaker 1: don't care what tour you're on, I don't care where
Speaker 1: you're playing. Um, they're in that group of players with
Speaker 1: John Ram and Rory McElroy. Um, the way Cam Smith
Speaker 1: is playing right now, the way he puts the golf
Speaker 1: ball when Justin Thomas is in full flow, when Calla
Speaker 1: Morikawa's and you know has there are about ten players
Speaker 1: in the world, UM playing that when they're on they're
Speaker 1: tough to be and you know, Brooks and DJ are
Speaker 1: definitely two of those players. I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: what holds for them and UM, I'm excited um to
Speaker 1: see how things go. Let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we are back workout drills or movements for people that
Speaker 1: are on the road often. UM, Listen, if you're traveling
Speaker 1: a lot and you don't have the opportunity to hit
Speaker 1: a lot of golf balls and stuff, um, and you've
Speaker 1: got your clubs with you, I think shadow swings in
Speaker 1: um in your hotel room, especially now on the east
Speaker 1: coast of the US with the weather getting bad, um
Speaker 1: in Europe, the weather is going to start to get
Speaker 1: a little bit rough for a lot of people. UM.
Speaker 1: Hitting balls inside, hitting making practice swings to where you're
Speaker 1: just making you know, swings with the golf club. You know,
Speaker 1: the things that you as the player are working on.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to get the golf club less inside,
Speaker 1: trying to get a feeling of the club going more
Speaker 1: you know outside, if you're trying to get the golf
Speaker 1: club more inside, if you're trying to get more depth, um,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get more with with whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you're trying to work on in your golf swing. You
Speaker 1: can do that without a without hitting balls. You can
Speaker 1: work on it. Um. One of the things that I
Speaker 1: do with a lot of my students is if we
Speaker 1: are having them make a specific change or move in
Speaker 1: their golf swing, I would say, okay, go ahead and
Speaker 1: take a set up, no ball, and close your eyes
Speaker 1: and go ahead and make me a kind of conicum
Speaker 1: mon alta biz hub super slow mo golf swing all
Speaker 1: the way up to the top, and then a super
Speaker 1: slow motion swing all the way back to impact and
Speaker 1: then follow through. So you can do it in three stages. Right,
Speaker 1: You've just got a golf club, you've got no ball,
Speaker 1: take your set up, close your eyes. Whatever you're trying
Speaker 1: to feel, the positions, the movement patterns, the things that
Speaker 1: you're trying to work on in your golf swing, do
Speaker 1: it with your eyes closed and say, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make as much of a slow motion back swing as
Speaker 1: I can and go up to the top and stop
Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, And just what does that feel like?
Speaker 1: The eyes closed just kind of gives you that you're
Speaker 1: not looking at what your body is doing. You're you're
Speaker 1: kind of getting an opportunity to feel what your body
Speaker 1: is doing. Um, go up to the top, do that
Speaker 1: and super slow motion a couple of times. Then go
Speaker 1: up there, go up to the top and stop, and
Speaker 1: then think, okay, I'm gonna start my down I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start the down swing. I'm going to do this in
Speaker 1: as slow emotion as I can possibly do back to impact,
Speaker 1: and then do that a couple of times, and then
Speaker 1: say okay, I'm gonna get back to impact and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop. Okay, and now I'm going to do a
Speaker 1: super slow motion version of from impact all the way
Speaker 1: up to my follow through. And those type of slow
Speaker 1: motion golf swings can be really really helpful. UM practice swings.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of instructors that talk
Speaker 1: a lot about that. I know, UM, Hank Haney is
Speaker 1: a big, big UM practice swing guy. Make as many
Speaker 1: practice swings as possible. So if you are traveling, UM
Speaker 1: and you've got your golf clubs, you can't get to
Speaker 1: the range and you you can't hit balls making swings
Speaker 1: just whatever, you're trying to work on those swings. If
Speaker 1: you're trying not to get the golf club too far
Speaker 1: behind you on the back swing. Get up against a wall,
Speaker 1: get your pockets of your shorts, your pants up against
Speaker 1: that wall, and try and make some slow motion backswings.
Speaker 1: And the idea would be to have the club head
Speaker 1: not hit the wall behind you. Right if you were
Speaker 1: someone that was taking the golf club too much outside,
Speaker 1: take a couple of steps away from the wall and
Speaker 1: in slow motion, try and feel like you're going to
Speaker 1: get the club head to hit the wall behind you.
Speaker 1: There are lots of things that you can do that
Speaker 1: are just kind of mimics the no ball, but isolating
Speaker 1: whatever motion that you have UM, I think can be hugely,
Speaker 1: hugely important, UM for a lot of golfers, especially UM.
Speaker 1: Now if you don't have the time and you don't
Speaker 1: have the weather to get out in practice, UM, what
Speaker 1: do average ams have to do to get to the
Speaker 1: next level? Mentally? I think that's a question that I
Speaker 1: get asked, you know a ton and I think I
Speaker 1: touched on that earlier, UM, you know and talking about
Speaker 1: Pat um Perez. It's easy to go to the range
Speaker 1: and and work on your golf swing. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people do that, UM. But I think thinking
Speaker 1: your way around the golf course is hugely hugely important. UM.
Speaker 1: I was working with a high school golfer today just
Speaker 1: UM one Regional is qualified for the state championships UM
Speaker 1: next week up in Orlando. Here in Florida where they
Speaker 1: hold the state championships mission in. It is a very
Speaker 1: kind of funky, fiddly kind of golf course, right. Um,
Speaker 1: it's tight. Um. It can kind of make you feel
Speaker 1: really really close to phobic. And I think one of
Speaker 1: the things golf courses like that can do is put
Speaker 1: you playing defense, right and put you on the defensive.
Speaker 1: So what we did was we went through, we went
Speaker 1: to Google Earth. We kind of looked at all of
Speaker 1: kind of what the holes were, kind of looked at um,
Speaker 1: you know, got a score card off the internet, looked
Speaker 1: at you know, what the scores were or what the
Speaker 1: yardages were. And basically we just kind of plotted his
Speaker 1: way around a tricky, difficult golf course. UM. And that's
Speaker 1: one way you can kind of change your mindset when
Speaker 1: you're thinking about going out and playing golf. It's your
Speaker 1: if it's your home course, if you play a lot
Speaker 1: of times, Let's say you're gonna even if you're just
Speaker 1: gonna go play casually. You know, if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: play nine holes or eight holes you're not playing in
Speaker 1: a tournament and say all right, the day before or
Speaker 1: while you're having your coffee go through you're around and say, okay,
Speaker 1: what am I going to hit off the first hole here? Um?
Speaker 1: What do I want to hit? You know? Where am
Speaker 1: I gonna hit? Driver? Where am I going to hit
Speaker 1: not driver? What holes am I going to lay up on?
Speaker 1: What holes am I not going to lay up on?
Speaker 1: What do the part three's look like? Where it's the
Speaker 1: easiest place on this green for me to um? I've
Speaker 1: talked about this on the pod before. If you think
Speaker 1: about the first green at your club, if you just
Speaker 1: went down and dropped the ball in the middle of
Speaker 1: every green, right, regardless of where they put the pins,
Speaker 1: how far away are they are you actually going to
Speaker 1: be from the hole? And that that would be a
Speaker 1: really cool thing to do, right, is to drive out
Speaker 1: um on your golf course. Do it one afternoon something,
Speaker 1: Go out and just drive out in a cart, drop
Speaker 1: the ball in the middle of the green and see
Speaker 1: if you just hit it to the middle of the
Speaker 1: green what kind of put you would have. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you you'll hit from if you hit the bland the
Speaker 1: ball in the middle of every green based off of
Speaker 1: where the pins are going to be. For eighteen holes,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna hit You're gonna hit some good shots
Speaker 1: doing that based off where the pinions. But what you're
Speaker 1: not going to do is you're not going to miss
Speaker 1: green stuff. So actually going around your home course before
Speaker 1: you play and getting into that mental frame of mind, um,
Speaker 1: where you want to hit the golf ball. I think
Speaker 1: so many of us go out on the golf course.
Speaker 1: What I was talking about earlier with Pat Perez and
Speaker 1: all we is think about where we don't want to
Speaker 1: hit the golf ball, right, don't want to hit it
Speaker 1: in this direction, and we don't want to hit it
Speaker 1: in that direction. We don't want to hit it in
Speaker 1: the water, we don't want to hit it into um
Speaker 1: the bunkers. How about doing the opposite. How about standing
Speaker 1: up on the first hole and saying, this is where
Speaker 1: I want to hit the golf ball. Obviously you're not
Speaker 1: going to do that every time. Right, we're not tour players,
Speaker 1: were not tiger Woods. We're not justin Thomas Ruory McIlroy. Right.
Speaker 1: We may not have the command and control that the
Speaker 1: best players in the world do well. One of the
Speaker 1: things that we do have command and control over is
Speaker 1: the way that we think about the shots that we're hitting.
Speaker 1: So stand up and say, okay, this is where I
Speaker 1: want and I'm going to try and hit the golf ball.
Speaker 1: And if you don't do that, keep trying to do that,
Speaker 1: because I think what so many golfers do. I heard
Speaker 1: Bob Rotella wants um, Bob Rotella, the great you know
Speaker 1: golf sports psychologists would love players to go to the
Speaker 1: golf course with no swing thoughts, none, which is very,
Speaker 1: very difficult to do, and but he will. And I
Speaker 1: was I was working with Trevor Immelman, who has been
Speaker 1: on the pod before. UM. I was worrying with Trevor
Speaker 1: and Trevor was working with Rotela, and Rotella said, listen,
Speaker 1: I want you to go to the golf course with
Speaker 1: one swing thought. And Trevor was like, man, I just
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I need I need, I need
Speaker 1: at least two maybe even three. I just can't go
Speaker 1: to the golf course with one swing thought. And Rotelo
Speaker 1: was like, I want you to go with one swing thought,
Speaker 1: but I want you to keep that one swing thought
Speaker 1: for the entire round. So if you hit a bad shot,
Speaker 1: you can't throw it out. Because I think that's what
Speaker 1: a lot of us do, right, we have a even
Speaker 1: if we even if we are going to plan, and
Speaker 1: even if we are going to have a game plan
Speaker 1: and and and go to the golf course and and
Speaker 1: try and and stay positive. Yet one bad shot and
Speaker 1: you just we all do it. We throw it out
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try something different. Now that didn't work.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. So taking one swing thought to the
Speaker 1: golf course and keeping it for eighteen holes because Rotella
Speaker 1: would say, if you're take king swing thoughts, which he
Speaker 1: doesn't want players to do, I think their minds shouldn't
Speaker 1: be thinking about technique. Their mind should be thinking about
Speaker 1: scoring an execution. But he'll let players take the one
Speaker 1: swing thought to the course, but he wants you to
Speaker 1: keep it for all eighteen holes because his theory is,
Speaker 1: if you take it to the golf course and you
Speaker 1: make one bad swing and you throw it out, what
Speaker 1: the hell was the point of taking the swing to
Speaker 1: the golf course in the first place if you're just
Speaker 1: going to throw it out, if you're not going to
Speaker 1: stick with it. So that's another thing. That getting for
Speaker 1: amateur golfers, getting to that next level mentally is saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is what is the key thing I need to
Speaker 1: do today on the golf course? Right? What is my
Speaker 1: one swing thought? And then I'm going to take that
Speaker 1: one swing thought and I'm going to keep that one
Speaker 1: swing thought for eighteen holes, regardless of what the outcome in.
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand on every t box, on every
Speaker 1: part four, every part five, every part three, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to have intent intention. I'm going to have an
Speaker 1: idea of what I try. I'm trying to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick a club, I'm gonna pick a shot,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick a shape, and I'm going to focus
Speaker 1: on trying to hit that. And if I don't do that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick up where I left off on the
Speaker 1: next hole and try and do the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: And I think that is a huge, huge mental shift
Speaker 1: in in going to the golf course with positive thoughts,
Speaker 1: positive intention as opposed to go on the golf course
Speaker 1: and just kind of winging it and if it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: you try something else, and if it doesn't work, you
Speaker 1: try something else. And by the back nine you've tried
Speaker 1: four or five things, and let's be honest, it's not
Speaker 1: a surprise I'm not working because you're not giving them
Speaker 1: a long enough time to do it. UM. So I
Speaker 1: think that mental frame of mind on trying to stay positive,
Speaker 1: trying to stay in the present, focusing on each shot
Speaker 1: as they come, as opposed to thinking about the past
Speaker 1: or thinking about the future. UM, because I think that's
Speaker 1: really really hard to do. UM. Lastly, listen tons of
Speaker 1: questions about Live. I mean, obviously, UM, I work with
Speaker 1: three players on Live at the moment. I don't currently
Speaker 1: work with any players on the PGA tour. That's not
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be on the PJ tour. UM.
Speaker 1: I go where the players are, and currently the players
Speaker 1: I work with UM are on live. UM. It was
Speaker 1: a really really interesting UM. There are eight tournaments and
Speaker 1: it was it was a new experience. I mean, one
Speaker 1: of the questions I asked I got asked, UM. We've
Speaker 1: heard from live players and caddies, UM as to the
Speaker 1: differences of of being on live. What's the differences on
Speaker 1: coaching on live? UM, And a lot of the things
Speaker 1: that I've seen about UM. You know what's happening on live. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff that you see on Golf Channel,
Speaker 1: that you see on TV that you see reported, are
Speaker 1: are being reported and comments being made by people that
Speaker 1: have never experienced any of the term eaments. UM. So UM,
Speaker 1: My experience has been really really positive. UM. It's been
Speaker 1: a really interesting working environment, and it's been a very
Speaker 1: very different working environment as a coach UM than it
Speaker 1: than it has been in the past. On the PGA Tour, UM,
Speaker 1: I get to spend a lot more time with the
Speaker 1: player and the players UM during practice rounds from start
Speaker 1: to finish. UM. We have tended to kind of UM,
Speaker 1: stay in the same hotels. We're driving to the golf
Speaker 1: course at the same time. One of the game changers is, UM,
Speaker 1: we get to the golf course in the morning, UM,
Speaker 1: and we can eat breakfast together. I can actually sit
Speaker 1: down with a player and a caddy and eat breakfast
Speaker 1: with him. Never been able to do that on the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. The players go one place, the caddies go
Speaker 1: somewhere else. The coaches sometimes they let coaches in with
Speaker 1: what the caddies are doing. But then there have been
Speaker 1: many tournaments UM that I've worked on the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: where you're not allowed to sit with the caddies, you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to sit with the players. So that interaction,
Speaker 1: that team interaction of being able to sit down with
Speaker 1: the player and the caddy you know before around the
Speaker 1: interaction that you're able to have with a player and
Speaker 1: a caddy to sit down with them, you know, and
Speaker 1: have lunch after around. UM, that has been really really different, UM,
Speaker 1: and it has been, in my opinion, you're very UM
Speaker 1: kind of game changing. UM. It's it's it's made I
Speaker 1: think all of us feel a little bit more like
Speaker 1: we're part of the team. UM. And then the team
Speaker 1: concept that UM. A lot of people I don't think
Speaker 1: understand or get UM. But as someone that has been
Speaker 1: to all of the live events, as as someone that
Speaker 1: has coached UM and been a part of it was
Speaker 1: six winning teams, the team concept for the live guys
Speaker 1: is real. UM. Dustin Books their team captains. UM, they
Speaker 1: are looking at this UM in a very different way
Speaker 1: than I think they've ever looked at golf before. UM.
Speaker 1: They're looking at what the players are doing when they're
Speaker 1: on the golf course. UM. They're conscious of what the
Speaker 1: guys on their team are doing. UM. It's funny after
Speaker 1: some of the rounds when the guys get off. Everybody
Speaker 1: finished this at the same time because of the shotgun starts,
Speaker 1: So guys are finishing and you know DJ, who everybody
Speaker 1: thinks is kind of out there and doesn't even think,
Speaker 1: you know, he'll get out of scoring. He'll be coming
Speaker 1: out of scoring, and and Pat Perez or Taylor Gooch
Speaker 1: or Patrick Read the guys that are on his team,
Speaker 1: he'll say you finished on four under, you finished on
Speaker 1: three under, meaning he knows what they're doing. He's watching
Speaker 1: what their scores are doing on the golf course. Um,
Speaker 1: half the time, you know, we'd get back to the
Speaker 1: range and uh, you know when we were on on
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, somebody be hit and balls, Hey what'd
Speaker 1: you shoot today? You know, he wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker 1: So the fact that he's got guys, and each of
Speaker 1: these teams have guys on their team, Um, that part
Speaker 1: of it has been I didn't expect that to be
Speaker 1: as real and I sure as hell didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to be as fun as it's been. Um, it has
Speaker 1: made everybody. I mean, that's the cool thing. Um, you
Speaker 1: know DJ's team, the four races we breakfast together, we
Speaker 1: go to the range together, we play practice rounds together,
Speaker 1: we lunched together. Um, we go out to dinner together. Um.
Speaker 1: The caddies are doing team dinners. UM, the players are
Speaker 1: doing team dinners. And then you know, at least once
Speaker 1: a week, the entire team, players, coaches, caddies, everybody associated
Speaker 1: with these teams all get together and go out. Um.
Speaker 1: We never did that on the PGA Tour. UM. So
Speaker 1: that has been really really unique and refreshing and UM
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And UM, Listen, I know this
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, between Live and the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: is very very political. It's very polarizing, and I know
Speaker 1: it there. It's like there's a line in the sand. Um.
Speaker 1: All I know is my experience on Live was great
Speaker 1: this year. UM. And I think the frustrating thing for
Speaker 1: me is, UM, I saw some unbelievable golf being played. Um,
Speaker 1: I really really did. UM. And I don't listen. I
Speaker 1: have seen, I've I've I've been a part of seven
Speaker 1: major championship teams. I have worked with and helped on
Speaker 1: a team to get two separate players to number one
Speaker 1: in the world. And I've probably helped players win over
Speaker 1: fifty tournaments. Um, I know what good golf is. I
Speaker 1: know what good golf shots are. UM. And I saw
Speaker 1: some unbelievable golf this year on Live. Um, I saw
Speaker 1: some unbelievable golf this year on the PGA Tour. And
Speaker 1: I I love golf, right. I love watching golf swings,
Speaker 1: I love watching players. I love watching players stand up
Speaker 1: and hit shots. UM. And I've seen that this year. UM.
Speaker 1: And I've I've been impressed with the golf that I've seen. UM.
Speaker 1: I've been so impressed in being able to watch Cam
Speaker 1: Smith play up close. Um, it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun to watch some of
Speaker 1: the players that Yeah, okay, it's easy to look at
Speaker 1: a guy like Peter you Line. Mean every time Peter
Speaker 1: you Line plays good now and live everybody just as well.
Speaker 1: He couldn't win on the PGA Tour, and he couldn't
Speaker 1: do this, and he couldn't do that. Okay, fine, if
Speaker 1: that's the narrative you've got, fine. But the way Peter
Speaker 1: u Line has played this year and the confidence he's taken, UM,
Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch. UM. I got to watch
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of players who's you know, names
Speaker 1: that I struggle to pronounce. I got to watch them,
Speaker 1: you know from Asia. Um that aren't household names that
Speaker 1: maybe everybody doesn't know. But I've gotten to watch these
Speaker 1: kids a golf um, watch them, watch their golf swings,
Speaker 1: watch them practice. UM. And that's what turns me on.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of golf. I'm a fan of golfers. UM,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of golf swings and UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I had a lot of people ask me
Speaker 1: questions where all is play out? You know, what happens
Speaker 1: moving forward? Listen. I wish I knew the answer to
Speaker 1: that question. I don't know, UM, But what I do
Speaker 1: know is, UM, I think Live is here to stay. UM.
Speaker 1: I think the PGA Tour is not going anywhere. I
Speaker 1: think the new schedule, the elevated events, and all the
Speaker 1: things that have changed this year in this crazy, crazy
Speaker 1: year of of of professional golf. UM, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to see a very very strong PGA Tour next year. UM.
Speaker 1: I think you know, the PGA Tour has so many
Speaker 1: good players playing on it. You know, Rory McElroy, Justin, Thomas,
Speaker 1: John rom You know, if you look at the players
Speaker 1: that play on the PGA Tour right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got some of the best players in the world.
Speaker 1: I believe that Live has some of the best players
Speaker 1: in the world as well, And I personally believe that
Speaker 1: they can both be true at the same time. The
Speaker 1: PGA Tour can do what it does, Live can do
Speaker 1: what it does. And if you're a fan of one,
Speaker 1: that's fine. If you're not a fan of the other,
Speaker 1: that's okay too. I mean, that's I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. There are people that don't like Live
Speaker 1: for whatever the reasons are. That's that's your choice. That
Speaker 1: you're prerogative. If you are a fan of what's happening
Speaker 1: on Live and you like it and you're watching and
Speaker 1: it appeals to you, that's cool too. But UM, I
Speaker 1: hope that in three we see UM I'd like to
Speaker 1: see less animosity between the players. UM because to me,
Speaker 1: I support players, I support players competing playing, and I
Speaker 1: also also massively support every professional golfer and professional athlete
Speaker 1: making money. I have no problem with it because when
Speaker 1: you're in sports at the highest level as a coach
Speaker 1: like I am, you realize that you can't fake it
Speaker 1: and phone it in you. It just it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: You have to stand up and hit shots when it counts,
Speaker 1: and you have to play good, right, And yeah, the
Speaker 1: money they're playing on at Live is more than they're
Speaker 1: playing on at the PGA Tour. So there are some
Speaker 1: guys that made a lot of money, um, but they
Speaker 1: didn't make a lot of money because they can't play. UM.
Speaker 1: And that no Joe, that goes towards the the anti
Speaker 1: liv pinata. You know, Pat Perez, Yeah, Pat wishes he
Speaker 1: would have played better in some tournaments this this year,
Speaker 1: for sure. But to make out like this guy's a
Speaker 1: bum and he's got no talent and he's just riding
Speaker 1: DJ's coattails, I think if that's your opinion, UM, I
Speaker 1: think you're misinformed as to what's actually happening UM, because
Speaker 1: I just don't see that. Um. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of golf, and UM, I'll continue to
Speaker 1: be a fan of golf, whether it's on the PGA Tour,
Speaker 1: whether it's on Live, whether it's on the DP World Tour,
Speaker 1: whether it's in Asia, whether it's on the l p
Speaker 1: g A, whether it's on the Champce Tour, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of golf, and I am a fan of golfers
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and hopefully in three UM, some of
Speaker 1: the the aggressive um us against them, them against us,
Speaker 1: maybe some of that changes, maybe it doesn't. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: naive and thinking that. I don't know, but I saw
Speaker 1: some great golf um on all the tours this year.
Speaker 1: And you know, as we're going into offseason now, the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour has got a couple of weeks left, LPG
Speaker 1: not long and lives off until next year. Hopefully in
Speaker 1: this offseason, you know, everybody takes step back and UM,
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get talk get back to talking about
Speaker 1: players hitting great shots and winning tournaments, regardless of where
Speaker 1: that is. Because like I said, I'm a fan of golf.
Speaker 1: I know everybody is, and hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
Speaker 1: So I want to thank everyone for listening. UM, if
Speaker 1: you like the the questions shows, UM, let me know
Speaker 1: on social because I'm happy to do more of these
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to devote some you know, maybe some
Speaker 1: shorter episodes to just questions UM, no guests, and you
Speaker 1: guys get an opportunity to hear what I think about golf.
Speaker 1: So UM, thanks everyone for listening. Son of a Bunch
Speaker 1: comes to you every Wednesday. We'll see you next week.