1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty arm Strong and Katty and 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty. He goes jeep to center. 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: The Dominican dominance comes to an end. The Big Dumper 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: is your home run derby champion for twenty twenty five. 7 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Hmm, that's a bad nickname. 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: So this guy, cal Raley, he's a catcher for the 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Seattle Mariners and toils and obscurity because he's not a 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: you know in New York, Chicago or La won the 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: home run derby last night. I don't Yeah, I agree. 12 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: I don't know about the nickname the Big Dumper. I 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: think I would say, hey, sports writers, can I I have. 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: A second take on my nickname? 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Ah, you don't get to choose your own nickname. But 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: that's a bad one. I wonder how he got it. 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I'd hate to know in the locker room. And he's 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: got a bit of a reputation. Yeah, none of that. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: I forgot the home run derby was yesterday. I'd have watched. 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Well, so here's the exciting news from this giant news 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: study they did about staying alive ah, staying alive. Any 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: activity is so much better than none. It's a crime 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: to not do it. Being sedentary is horrible for you. Now, 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: I have never been sedentary. I don't take any credit 25 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: for that. I just I'm not built that way. 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: I can't. 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: It just it would make me insane. So I've never 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: been sedentary in my entire life. But I've known people 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: that were. I had a roommate in college, I remember 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: after college, so we were he's probably twenty three as 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: twenty five, something like. 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: That, and he would he'd. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: Get up in the morning and he'd PLoP down on 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: the couch, you know, and have some breakfast watching TV. 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: Then he'd walk to his car, go to work, walk 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: into the building, work all day, walk back to his car, 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: come back home, PLoP down on the couch again. And 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: he did that every day, and he probably is still 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: doing that every day if he's still alive. And it 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: was the first person like I'd ever really been around 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: that was sedentary like that, and I just it was 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: it made my legs hurt to watch. 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: But that again, that's just the way I built. It's 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: not a. 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: But the biggest leap you can make in terms of 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: helping your health is from sedentary. 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: About twenty inches. Sedentary biggest leap I can make to 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: any activity. That leap gets huge gains in terms of 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: staying alive. 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: The headline is, with all due respect to. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: The American Art Association recommends for forty five minutes of 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: rigorous exercise five days. That's fine, that's good, it's worth knowing. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: But that which you just said should be universally life stuff. 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: Now, I think we do more harm than good with 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: all the the wouldn't it be great if we all 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: level standards because you just think I can't, so I'm 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: not gonna do anything right. 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Obviously people think, nah, I don't think I can reach 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: that right. Don't worry about it. It's the journey of 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: a thousand steps. I mean, maybe someday you'll end up 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: at that upper recommendation, but it doesn't matter. 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: What matters is the first step. 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: I still haven't even done the headline, which I should do. 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: The headline staying consistently active throughout adulthood cuts all cause 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: death risk just dying in general by forty percent, especially 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: heart disease forty percent. By being just somewhat active consistently 67 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: throughout your adulthood as opposed to not. Wow, people who 68 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: increase their activity from inactive too active saw the biggest 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: benefits and it's never too late to start to get 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: the advantage. 71 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Wow, So I can be lazy for another decade or so. 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, because I might croak in the meantime. 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: Right, I gotta believe that going from inactive for a 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: long time to. 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Active is really hard to do. I'll bet that's really 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: really hard to do. 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, although again the single step thing, you know, just 78 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: some activity, light activity, you know, do it walking instead 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: of sitting on the couch is anything. 80 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: And to your point, even activity below recommended guidelines provide 81 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: meaningful protection. Moving from sedentary to moderately active delivers the 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: biggest gains of all. That should be the headline, and 83 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: they should tell that in every school like ten times 84 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: a year, any exercise. 85 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Is teaching radical gender theory. Check as we discussed last hour. 86 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: If you missed Last Hour, it was a blockbuster. Subscribe 87 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: to a podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand back to you. 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: Those who maintain exercise routines of any kind really specifically 89 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: reduced their chances of dying from heart disease, which is 90 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: the number one killer of all of us by thirty 91 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: to forty percent compared to sedentary peers. This is really 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: an interesting study. It's the biggest one ever done international. 93 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: Rather than asking people about their exercise habits once and 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: checking back years later, which is normally what has done, 95 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: this analysis focused on research that monitored exercise patterns at 96 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: multiple points throughout people's lives for a very long time. Obviously, 97 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: you can't do a study like this quickly. Is you 98 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 3: got to follow people from the twenties through the thirties, forties, fifties, whatever. 99 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: Then scientists broke people into distinct groups, people who stayed 100 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: consistently active, those who increased their activity, those who decreased it, 101 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: and those who remained inactive throughout the study periods. 102 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: And then you got the results we just talked about. 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: I know my dad, my mom and dad were big 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: walkers up until just recently, and they're both in the 105 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: well into their eighties now, but they started I suppose 106 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: my dad was early forties, my mom was around forty. 107 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: But my dad said, prior to that, so that's arounly 108 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty, he said, prior to that, just nobody 109 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: even thought about exercising. 110 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: Really, it just doesn't remember. 111 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Articles like in Time magazine about the jogging trend. Yeah, 112 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: and it was mostly mocked by people like my dad 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: and it's friends. 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: The kind of person would go out and jog, but 115 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: like people just didn't exercise it just. 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, nobody'd ever really thought about it unless they 117 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: did it accidentally while they were doing something they enjoy. Oh, 118 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: that reminds me, do you have more because I have 119 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: something directly related to that I thought was great. 120 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: Let me hit you with just a couple of things. 121 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Consistently active showed a twenty nine percent lower risk of 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: death from any cause compared to those who stayed inactive. 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: Being consistent over time is really really huge. But all 124 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: kinds of numbers that are good for you can start 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: at anytime. Like if you're listening right now and you're 126 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: forty five and you haven't really exercised since you're twenty five, 127 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: you could start today even with anything. Go out and 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: walk around the block. Like Joe said, the journal journey 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: starts with a few steps. Let me see, it seems 130 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: like there's one more thing I wanted to get on here. 131 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 132 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: One of the studies' most practical discoveries and discoveries involved 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: how much exercise provides how much benefit. Researchers found that 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: the biggest mortality reductions occurred when people met basic physical 135 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: Active guidelines, which recommended one hundred and fifty to three 136 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: hundred minutes of moderate intensity exercise per week one hundred 137 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: and fifty spread out over a week, two and a 138 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: half hours spread out over a week. I think that's doable, 139 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: isn't it. 140 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: It's yeah. 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's not like easily doable for a lot 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: of people, depending on their lives and their schedules, but 143 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not insane. 144 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I will, I will speak to the man 145 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: when you get you know, when you're writ in the 146 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: thick of like raising kids and you got a job 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: and all the stuff that's going on, it ain't the 148 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: most compelling thing to do the end of the day, 149 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: and you're tired to think, Okay, put on the old 150 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: exercise shoes and get out there, right, I get it. 151 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. 152 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Although again, just if you fall off the wagon or 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: you're having trouble or just do something, do a little something, 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: You've done yourself enormous good. 155 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: So this is frustrating. 156 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I have this great thing from the daily Mail, but 157 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: it it resets if you don't like go to the 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: tab and just to the front page after a while, 159 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: which is odd. But this article, which I wish I 160 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: had in front of me, it was a major study 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: on what exercise program works the best, and the headline 162 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: was great. It was science determines the perfect exercise program 163 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: And the conclusion they got was the one you in 164 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: joy the most or hate the least. 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: Over and over. 166 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Again, they would measure people's, you know, a level of exercise, 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: their life blah blah blah, and and what they thought 168 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: of what they did generally, and it was just clear cut. 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: If you're reasonably amused, entertained, enjoy it, don't hate it, 170 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: that's the one for you. 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny that fits in with a couple other examples. 172 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: Which sunscreen is the best, the one that you're wanting 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: you reapply, the one you're willing to reapply, Which diet 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: is the best, the one you'll actually stick to, and 175 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: so which exercise the best, the one you like because 176 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: you'll keep doing it. That makes sense, ye like, yeah, 177 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: because there are various exercise I hate and uh. 178 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, like going for a long walk, I like, I 179 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: hate running. I like riding a bike. I like lifting 180 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: weights other things I hate. I was gonna ask. 181 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: Katie about this. Uh, let me find it real quick. 182 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: I had just become aware of this recently. Le gear 183 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: lageir are you famil you're with this exercise thing? 184 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: No, ligier sounds fancy. Maybe I'm saying it's. 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: A little bougie for my take, fancy, I think it is. 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: It does sound bougie, but I don't think it is. 187 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Do you mean leisure? They're failing of our nation's government schools? 188 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: That is very, very funny, Michael. Yes, leisure. 189 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: It includes having a recliner and a television with a 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: large package of Netflix and whatnot. 191 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: I'll dig it up. L A g R e E. 192 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: I don't actually know how you pronounce it, because somebody 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: was texting me about free agree. Maybe that is the 194 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: way you say it, so I was saying it wrong, 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: so you didn't know what I was talking about. 196 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: Uh, it's super hardcore. It's like pilates. It's Pilates on steroids. Yeah, 197 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people say that it's pilates. 198 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: If you got a a former drill sergeant from the 199 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: Marines running it just like and there are machines for it. 200 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: But it's supposed to be just a crazy ass kicker. 201 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: But people that are into it are getting tremendous results. 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: See that's an example of an exercise I would not 203 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: stick to. 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: I won't even try that. Yeah, I don't. I don't. 205 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't need to be yelled at. 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Enough of that my life like like a baby version 207 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: of it. 208 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: Like you know, lagree for the week and the week 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: in low and motivation. 210 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: Agree for those who don't want to be yelled at first. 211 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: Have you ever done exercise where they yell at ye? 212 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Maybe that would work. I mean it worked for me 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: in high school. The coach yell and they come on, 214 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: you can do it, go go go, But asn't a 215 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: dolt would be like, f you, I'm paying you don't 216 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: talk to me like that. 217 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been yelled at since I don't need 218 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: to be yelling at. How about I yell at you, idiot? 219 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: You want to say you want to see my w two? 220 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: What are you yelling at me? For a pe coach 221 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: would yell as he smoked. There you go stand there 222 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: and smoking, yellow you. 223 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: So it's the point of the article, which Katie helpfully 224 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: found and sent to me and maybe we'll talk about 225 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: it next hour. It's you personality that influences what sort 226 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: of exercise is going to work for you, And you 227 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: don't have to deny that there's more to it than 228 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: that I'm doing a poor job mclinning and stay tuned. 229 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of new zy headline the stuff 230 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: to give to But we'll get back to health and 231 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: that sort of thing next hour, at least for a bit. 232 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Trump's big announcement about helping out Ukraine. How big announcement 233 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: was it? What did he say? We got a little 234 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: bit of that and a little annoulysi so among other 235 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: things on the way, stay here, armstrong. 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Jetty I says. 237 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: Those who are arrested include thirty two people convicted of 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: child sex offenses, nine convicted of homicide related offenses, and 239 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: sixteen documented members of a transnational gang or drug cartel. 240 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: They identified some of the detainees. They include A Dermis 241 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: Wilson Gonzales from Cuba, who officials say was convicted in 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: two thousand and three of hijacking an airplane traveling from 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: Cuba to Key West, Florida. Lewis Pablo Vasquez Estolano from Mexico, 244 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: who they say was convicted of Homa Side aggravated robbery 245 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: and drug possession. And Javier Escobar Gonzales, also from Mexico, 246 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: whose charges include sexual indecency with a minor man. 247 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: I wish we could figure out a way to handle this. 248 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: He got millions and millions and millions of people here illegally, 249 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: and then you got the whole well, you're gonna boot 250 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: them out. They've been here for years, hard working, blah 251 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: blah blah, which is all true. Then you got seven 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: hundred thousand convicted criminals that are here illegally. 253 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: Those all should go. Nobody's against it but lunatics. 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: And then is there a simple way to separate those 255 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: two and the people that are here and hardworking and 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: all that, They're still here illegally until you change the law. 257 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: So what do we do about it? 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: These are great questions which will probably not be answered, 259 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: so good luck. A couple of quick immigration headlines. First 260 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: of all, dovetailing off that story Immigrations and Customs in 261 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Immigration Enforcement operations, so ICE officers arrested nearly 262 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred criminal aliens criminals in the Houston area in 263 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: June keep it up fellas again, thirty two child predators, 264 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: nine murderers, one hijacker, and sixteen cartel or gang members. 265 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: Another statistic I found very interesting. According to our friends 266 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: at CIS dot org Center for Immigration Studies, sanctuary states 267 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: released more than twenty five thousand criminal illegals back into 268 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: the population without alerting immigration officials from October of last 269 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: year to February of this year. 270 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: That's insane. The fact that that goes on is absolutely 271 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: flipping insane. In a five month period, twenty five thousand 272 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: criminal illegals back into the population knew they were criminals, 273 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: knew their illegals in most cases, instead not a word 274 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: to the Feds because they're Thankstuary Stay. You're so California 275 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: by far the worst defender, along with Illinois, Massachusetts as 276 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: a you're so blinded by ideology, you're insane. You've got 277 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: a criminal on your hands that's here illegally in addition 278 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: to that, but you want to protect them, you're. 279 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: Not, and like, go ahead, politically. 280 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: I don't want you to go ahead, because it's awful 281 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: for because they go out there and they rape and 282 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: murder and steal and do all the things that they 283 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: were convicted of in the first place. But as a 284 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: political issue, keep it up, you morons. That sounds like 285 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: a ninety five to five issue. So another headline World 286 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: of immigration. 287 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Trump administration is attempting to make millions of immigrants living 288 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: in the country illegally ineligible to be released from detention 289 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: on bond as they fight their deportation cases. 290 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: According to an administration official. 291 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: So you're there illegally, you're you're up for deportation, you're 292 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: having a deportation case. Judges would turn you loose on 293 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: bond to just go keep living your life while it 294 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: bounds through the process weeks, months, years in many cases. 295 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: But now the. 296 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Trump administration is trying to stay. No, you're going to 297 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: stay in detention the whole time. Here's the interesting part, 298 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: which we'll set jack. 299 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Off on everybody. Interesting. 300 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: I think everybody should be surrounded by alligators everywhere. Alligators 301 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: entirely optional, but not out of the question. The move 302 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: marks a significant departure from decades of practice when immigration 303 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: judges had the latitude to release someone from detention on 304 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: a bond if they weren't deemed a flight risk. Immigration 305 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: law states that all immigrants in the country illegally must 306 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: be detained while their fates are decided. But with limited 307 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: beds available in ice jails, the government had considered the 308 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: law effectively impossible to enforce. So for decades we have 309 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: ignored the law because it just it would be a pain. 310 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: But we haven't changed the law. 311 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: Which other laws am I allowed to ignore? Can we 312 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: start with tax law? And final note, we don't really have. 313 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Time to flesh this out, but the the protest movement 314 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: in La, the antis protest movement, they're settling in for 315 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the long haul. We can talk about their strategies later 316 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: on hope you can stay tuned. 317 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: Trump said some interesting stuff about US funding and arming Ukraine. 318 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Will break that down for you. Armstrong and Getty, two. 319 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 5: Defense officials telling ABC used the Pentagon's still working on 320 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 5: what military age is going to be approved, but many 321 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 5: here underwhelmed. One Ukrainian analyst comparing it to giving morphine 322 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 5: to a dying patient. 323 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ian panel, I think that that's an outlier opinion 324 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: from all the news I took in over the last 325 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Anyway, you know, one analyst said, Okay. 326 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: One Twitter person said, you know, I don't know. 327 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to be aware of the whole 328 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: giving them just enough to keep them in the fight 329 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: syndrom as opposed to giving them enough to seriously push 330 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Russia back. 331 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: Sure, but I think the biggest problem was Trump teased 332 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: a big announcement three days then his surrogence went out there, 333 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: especially Lindsey Graham, saying well, you know, I'm not gonna 334 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: get ahead of the president here and tell you what, 335 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: but this is going to be big. And then it 336 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: was kind of like just his the way he dribbled 337 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: it out was just so unenthusiastic. They're in the Oval Office. 338 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: The possible sanctions fifty days from now that he talked 339 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: about Lindsey Graham led me to believe that Trump's going 340 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: to come out and say that sanction package that would 341 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: be the strongest sanctions the United States has ever levied 342 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: on anyone, and eighty senators have said they will vote for. 343 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: It, right three five coast, everybody. 344 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is something I thought Trump would 345 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: come out and say, pass it, send it to my desk, 346 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: I'll sign it this afternoon. 347 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: But he did. 348 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: He said fifty days, to which immediately a reporter asked, 349 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: why fifty days? So let's hear that, why are. 350 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 4: You giving fifty more days? 351 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 6: I did the Well, I think it's a period of time. 352 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I think, don't forget. 353 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 6: I've just really been involved in this and not very long, 354 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 6: and it wasn't initial focus. This is again, this is 355 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 6: a Biden war, this is a Democrat. We're not a 356 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 6: Republican or Trump war. This is a war that would 357 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 6: have never happened. It shouldn't have happened. 358 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: A lot of people being killed. 359 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 6: When the final numbers come in, you're going to see 360 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 6: a lot more people have been killed in this war 361 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: than than you think, than you've been writing about. 362 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. People have been writing very very 363 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: large numbers for a long time. 364 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: And then yeah, go ahead, Well I just if you're 365 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: done with that thought. I was going to say, I 366 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: appreciate the positives, but the three hundred or more billion 367 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: dollars in Russian assets held in the West, not only 368 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: are we not going to spend those, seize them and 369 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: spend them for Ukraine, or we're not even going to 370 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: use the interest that they've earned or anything. 371 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: It didn't even mention that. No, it seemed very tepid. 372 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: Our European allies have been pushing pretty hard for that 373 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: using that money. And I feel like, well, based on 374 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: this clip right here, let's play the next one here 375 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: what Trump said, And then I think it makes the 376 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: fifty day pause seem even stranger any. 377 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 7: Review that Vladimir Putin's could not clarify his intention to 378 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 7: a peace steal. 379 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 8: And what happens now in the next phase is there. 380 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: We're going to go for a period of time, maybe 381 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 6: you'll start negotia. 382 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: And I think we. 383 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: Felt I felt I don't know about you, Mark, but 384 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 6: I felt that we had a deal about four times. 385 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: And here we are still talking about it. 386 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: So Trump says, I thought we had a deal four times. Putin, 387 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: you know, turns out to be a liar, he's just 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: a BS artist. And then you say, here's fifty more days, right. 389 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: I don't think those two things fit together. 390 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: Now. 391 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: Sergei Lavrov, who's about health piece for Putin and has 392 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: been forever and is a paid liar, I mean, like 393 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: literally a paid liar. He was asked about the fifty 394 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: day tariff thing, and you know, how worried are you 395 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: about it? And he said, there used to be twenty 396 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: four hours, then there was one hundred days. We've been 397 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: through all this. 398 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: Wow. 399 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: So that was his response, openly calling Trump out as 400 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: a blowhard, right, I mean. 401 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Be afraid of him. He makes all sorts of promises. Well, 402 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: he's essentially said taco right, Trump always chickens out, which 403 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: is not true. 404 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: Wow, that is ballsy. 405 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: I thought at least he'd say this pause will give 406 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: us time to work seriously toward a peace proposal, because 407 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: that's the usual Russian playbook at really any that sort 408 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: of regime playbook for stringing you along. 409 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: He didn't even bother. He is like, yeah, whatever, shut up, 410 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: twenty four hours on hundred days. We've heard this before. 411 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Yipes. Maybe that was just so discord here in the 412 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: United States. I don't know. 413 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: Now there are weapons systems going to Ukraine. Trump talked 414 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: about that. 415 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 7: Will these be Patriot missiles specifically, or Patriot batteries that 416 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: you're planning and when you when. 417 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 6: It's a full compliment with the batteries, Well, we're gonna 418 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 6: have some come very soon within days. 419 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: Actually, So within days, Ukraine is going to get the 420 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: best missile defense system on Earth, the Patriot system. 421 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Euros are going to give them theirs and 422 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: we'll backfill the Euros. 423 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what the whole what happened to the 424 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: we're at a quarter of capacity thing that heg Zeth 425 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: was apparently worried about when we did the pause. Did 426 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: we fix that problem or are we ignoring that problem? 427 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope somebody has a challenge now. 428 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: I want to I want to get this on again. 429 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: We played it late in the show yesterday because it 430 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: had just happened. But this is more of a little 431 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 3: more insight into the way Trump sees Putin or is 432 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: waking up to Uton or whatever. 433 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 6: I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done, 434 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 6: and I always hang up and say, well, that was 435 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 6: a nice phone call. And then missiles launched into Kiev 436 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 6: as some other city. 437 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: I said, strange. 438 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 6: And after that happens three or four times, you say 439 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 6: the talk doesn't mean anything. My conversations with him are 440 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: always very pleasant. I say, he's not a very lovely conversation, 441 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 6: and then the missiles go off. That night, I go home, 442 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: I tell the first lady and I spoke to Vladimir today. 443 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 6: We had a wonderful conversation. She said, oh really, Uh 444 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 6: another city was just hit. So it's like, look, he's uh, 445 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 6: I don't want to say he's an assassin, but he's 446 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: a tough guy. It's been proven over the years. He's 447 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 6: fooled a lot of people. He fooled Bush, He fooled 448 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 6: a lot of people. He fooled Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden. 449 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: He did for me what he didn't? 450 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't. You're just coming to the realization that 451 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: Putin's full of. 452 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Crap, and you thought you had a deal four times 453 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 2: and he broke it. But he didn't fool you. Who 454 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: is he trying to convince. 455 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: And not to stick it to him? You're gonna give 456 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: him fifty days for all? 457 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: I got it first, I am, I am mystified. I 458 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: don't get it. 459 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: There have been some statements in support though at least 460 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: of these moves that I want to get to this 461 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: is Ambassador Matt Whittaker eighty four. 462 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 9: Michael, these secondary sanctions are really a game changer. Ultimately, 463 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 9: you know, President Trump wants this war to end, but 464 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 9: at the same time he sees that India and China, 465 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 9: especially buying Russian oil through the Shadow Fleet, is what's 466 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 9: enabling the war to continue. At the end of the day, 467 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 9: President Trump holds all the cards worldwide and globally as 468 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 9: it relates to these disputes. He's playing a card right now, 469 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 9: giving Vladimir Putin fifty days to come to the table and 470 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 9: get a ceasefire. 471 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Part of that is giving time to India and Brazil 472 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and other places that will be hit by these secondary 473 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: sanctions or secondary tariffs, if you want to call him that, 474 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: for doing business with Russia. We will punish people for 475 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: doing business with Russia if they want to trade with 476 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: the United States. That could be why he gave a 477 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: little extra time, now that I think about it. Mark 478 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Ruta is the NATO Secretary General. He is the smartest 479 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: one and the best one I've seen. He did an 480 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: extended interview with Brett Baher last night on Special Reports. 481 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: He's actually making the rounds in general. Pardon me, I 482 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: wish i'd seen that. 483 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a very, very smart he. If you're going 484 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: to be a cynic, you'd say he flatters Trump a lot. 485 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: If you're going to be a realist, you would say 486 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: he understands that Trump the United States is not only 487 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: the big dog in NATO, we're a big elephant at 488 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: like a terrier circuit. 489 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: ACKed. 490 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the Euro's matter, but we are enormous. Well, 491 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 3: the secretary general is always an American, isn't it. 492 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: No, it's not. I thought the person in charge was 493 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: always an American. Well, you got your. 494 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: Secretary general, then you got your commander, NATO commander. Maybe 495 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking anyway, And he said he actually said, 496 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think we have that clip, but he said, 497 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the United States military is bigger than the every other 498 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: NATO member combined. 499 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 500 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he recognizes that and is no longer acting like, yeah, 501 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: the US is lucky to have France's help or Spain's. No, 502 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: the guys are realist and I like the cut of 503 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: his jib. Eighty five Michael. 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 8: This is really significant. So last Thursday I got a 505 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 8: call from President Trump. He said, hey, Mark, we really 506 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 8: want to ramp up the support for Ukraine when it 507 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 8: comes to weapons. And then this morning I was in 508 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 8: the White House preparing for the meeting with him, and 509 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 8: he said, when it comes to the sanctions, clearly we 510 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 8: have to take the next step now, and he can 511 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 8: only dialogue once, so he has to take this step 512 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 8: by step. I totally understand that, but he was really 513 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 8: I think irritated with last phone call with Putin, who 514 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 8: is not serious. It seems about getting in two piece 515 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 8: deals at two peace negotiations. 516 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: So now and then the next clip, Michael, here he 517 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: is on the lead. 518 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 8: The thing for President Trump announced is a real smart 519 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 8: way to move forward because what it basically says to India, 520 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: to China and to Brazil. So country is still buying 521 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 8: from Russia. Hey, pick up the phone, goll Vladimir Putin 522 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 8: and tell him he has got to get serious on 523 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 8: peace negotiations. And if he doesn't, then we will be targeted. 524 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 8: Of course Russia itself, but also all these countries still 525 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 8: buying from Russia. So I think it is a very 526 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 8: smart move. 527 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, to what I was saying the second, the supreme 528 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: Allied Commander, the person in charge of the actual troops, 529 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: and what we're going to do is always an American, 530 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: always since the beginning of NATO. And I mean that 531 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: tells you everything you need to know about our role. 532 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's the administrative head. But he's slick, he's good, 533 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: and I love the idea of NATO. 534 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: And he praised Trump. 535 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: The New York Times and the Washington Post and the 536 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: USA Today ought to be forced to print this guy's 537 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: words he said, Trump single handedly turned NATO into a 538 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: real alliance, no doubt. And he was talking about, yeah, 539 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: nobody was even paying their two percent. Now we're all 540 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: going for five except Spain, and well, Spain is Spain. 541 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? Uh, it was funny you 542 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: practically said that, but he said, no. 543 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Now we're a real alliance and we're all working toward 544 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: five percent, which, by the way, the US needs a 545 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: little work to get to, just because we have a 546 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: giant economy. 547 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: But it's it's great. 548 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Trump's occasionally to me overly abusive description of the problems 549 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: with NATO unequivocally undeniably a gigantic win for peace and prosperity. 550 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 10: Yeah. 551 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: His method is always like he'll you know, he would 552 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: walk into the bedroom say I want a divorce. What 553 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: as a starting point to get your attention to fix 554 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: a much smaller problem. That's the way he does things. 555 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: That's the way he do with NATO. So he's doing 556 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: it with tear raps. That's what he does with everything. Yeah, yeah, 557 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm sired to meet Loaf. Okay, that's what we're talking about. 558 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, it's it's I don't know that 559 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: it's always productive. But you know, if you judge my 560 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: dad used to say on occasion, Joe, there's no arguing 561 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: with success if you want to just weigh it in 562 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: terms of the success of it, you know, or nitpicking. 563 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't get the fifty day pause. Maybe your explanation 564 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: is right. Then why didn't he say that out loud, 565 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: giving India time to figure out their gas situation, but 566 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: they got to quit buy an oil from Russia. 567 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I can think of is that 568 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: he didn't want to call them out by name. 569 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: But that's a good question. 570 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: Having Lavrov say, okay, it was twenty four hours with 571 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: one hundred days, now it's fifty days. 572 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: Whatever, shut up is not good. 573 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump, surely somebody is bringing that to Trump's attention. 574 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: I would think I am. 575 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: Bothered by the effect, by the extent to which Trump 576 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: being annoyed or butt hurt drives American foreign policy. But 577 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: that was not only a real slap, but Lavrov, who's 578 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, Putin's mouthpiece in the Foreign minister, he speaks 579 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: for the Kremlin, and him saying we don't care what 580 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: the Americans say, we don't care what they think, we 581 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: don't care about their stupid little timetable. That is a 582 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: that is an unmistakable message that needs to be heart god, I'd. 583 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: Say, okay, we got another really dumb We got a 584 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: couple of dumb TikTok crazes. I can't believe these things 585 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: actually work or catch on, But got a couple of 586 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: those for you. 587 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: Other stuff stay here. 588 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 11: In New York City, four kids were spotted by police 589 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 11: drones riding on top of train cars, a dangerous trend 590 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 11: known as subway surfing. Two of the boys are only 591 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 11: twelve years old. Police boarded that train and all four 592 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 11: kids were taken into custody. 593 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so you're twelve years old and you're riding on 594 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: top of a subway. Subway surfing or train surving. It 595 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: has been around forever TikTok trends. 596 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 8: I don't. 597 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: I guess it's the peer pressure. Is do you feel 598 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: peer pressure from TikTok. 599 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: Or maybe it just looks like fun. That's pretty bold 600 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: for a twelve year old, By the way, Yeah. 601 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I'd want to see somebody else do it first and 602 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: come back with their heads still attached. 603 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and train out on the tracks on the countryside 604 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: is different than in a subway where you're going through 605 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: tunnels all the time. 606 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: Right. 607 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, here's another dumb TikTok trend. 608 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 8: I saw a. 609 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 7: Girl and her use a sharpie like a lipstick, and 610 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 7: I must try it. She used pink, but I think 611 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 7: it was a little lighter than the pink that I got. 612 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 7: Really went to the store bought a sharpie because of 613 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: this video. Oh god, oh oh wait, wait, is that 614 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 7: actually not bad at all? 615 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: Sharpie? 616 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 7: Give us some more ranges of pink. 617 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: Using a sharpie as slipstick? Do you know anything about this, Katie, 618 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: you're a woman. I don't wear lipstick. I don't I 619 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: don't know anything about using bar as you know. 620 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 10: No, I don't use I've not heard of putting a 621 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 10: sharpie on your lips. 622 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: For this black one is eyeliner. 623 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: No, the the chemicals, the editing of a lot of 624 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: the TikTok clips because we can't handle the quarter second 625 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: pause between phrases right anymore. 626 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it's the video to be added like that. 627 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 10: But it's what it's the it's the video limit time. 628 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 10: So I think on TikTok it's a minute. 629 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: That they have. 630 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's also the creates a sense of 631 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: speed and urgency thing that seems to be so popular. 632 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: You know, Elon says, our brains can handle a much 633 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: faster speed. 634 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: We just have to get used to it. His brain can. 635 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: I've started listening to audio books at one point two 636 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: as opposed to just one, and it's a little but 637 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: once you get once I got used to it, I 638 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: forget that. I've got it on the faster speed, and 639 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: it cuts your time down by a lot. I mean, 640 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: you can do the matter pretty easy, but if you've 641 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: got a thirty hour book, you can shave off a 642 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: hell of a lot of time by listening at one 643 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: point two. And but man, you got to pay attention. 644 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: You can't be like just daydreaming at that speed. Yeah, 645 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: Elon Musk. 646 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Saying, oh, our minds can work much faster. It's like 647 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, yo yo ma saying anybody can be 648 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: a musical genius. No, you don't get to say. I 649 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: got to ask a. 650 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: Dullard that question. Huh. And then I had one other 651 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: thing I wanted to get too, but I don't remember. 652 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: Oh, but go ahead, I would say, use use those sharpies. 653 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: In fact, if you want a different eye color, forget 654 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: that expensive fairly dangerous operation. You get that procedure, just 655 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: take a sharpie and draw blue right on your corner. Yeah, 656 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: it's a great idea. 657 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: I mean seriously, Oh, I know, I was going to say, 658 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: so those TikTok trends. Anybody have any idea where we 659 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: are with TikTok and that hole. The Congress said it 660 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 3: was against the law, and then Trump has just ignored 661 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: that for whatever reason, and then Congress has not forced 662 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: the issue. 663 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on with that. Well, 664 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: there was a court case recently. They said, yeah, shut 665 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: it down. 666 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: But that leads me into taco, which, for all I know, 667 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 3: one person said at once and it got turned into 668 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: a giant talking point across the nation. Trump always chickens out. 669 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: New York Times yesterday on taco said it's no bluff. 670 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: The terriffrate is soaring under Trump. The president has earned 671 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: a reputation for bluffing on tariffs because you started that reputation, 672 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: but has steadily and dramatic raised US tariff's transforming global trade. 673 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: That's not being talked about enough. These tariffs are way 674 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: higher than we had before all around the world, and. 675 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: It's having an effect just beginning to have an effect. Yeah. 676 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: Also coming up next hour and much stupider. If you're 677 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna go for a witch hunt on a witch hunt, 678 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: do it on Etsy. The witches of Etsy, What 679 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty