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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. Across the table

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Speaker 1: is DeMarco. Far defar what's going on? It's a false

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Speaker 1: start on Miles, know what's going on? Nothing. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go. You're gonna go back to before we

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Speaker 1: began this thing again, Yeah, where we were trying to

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Speaker 1: heckle me give you a hard count every now and then. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's ready. Well, we got to talk about

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Speaker 1: this latest Rams loss. It's another one that is really disappointing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially with the way it ended. Interim head

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Speaker 1: coach John Fossel brought it up that you know, it

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Speaker 1: reminds you of the Miami game, but when you lose

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Speaker 1: to the forty nine Ers twenty two to twenty one, man,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's kind of a tough built to swallow,

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Speaker 1: you know, the thing that you can boil away from

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Speaker 1: a loss like that, because we've seen that movie before,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, yeah, Miami, I think I said that

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Speaker 1: during the game during the broadcast. I said, to this offense,

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Speaker 1: the Rams offense, if it goes stagnant again, I bet

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick gets hot, and I bet this becomes a

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Speaker 1: game and you might wind up losing it, and that's

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Speaker 1: what happens. But um, the one thing you can boil

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Speaker 1: away is you know, lead or behind. Um. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Rams have enough playmakers on offense. I think

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Speaker 1: that's been abundantly clear throughout this entire season. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, like, if you have a game in

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Speaker 1: hand and you can put it away, at least some

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Speaker 1: teams have a good running game or a good receiver

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Speaker 1: you can't stop. Yeah, that you can lean on in

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Speaker 1: certain situations to keep your offense on the field. Called

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Speaker 1: away the clock. So that guy did not show up

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Speaker 1: again for the Rams because you don't have one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's basic what you're saying. Yeah, not at all. I

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Speaker 1: mean I think we can give up waiting on Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley for this year. You have one game left, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to be that guy. Kenny Brett isn't

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Speaker 1: that guy. Um? I think this there are no more

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin secrets around the NFL. I agree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least not in this current scheme that the Rams

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Speaker 1: are running in twenty sixteen. Well, that's something else that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if a new guy could find a way

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Speaker 1: to make him more productive. Well does it does that

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Speaker 1: kind of depend on do you think just him or

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Speaker 1: the players around him as well? Because I've said this

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Speaker 1: before and probably an on his podcast, But I think

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Speaker 1: if Tamon Austin is not necessarily the number one option

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Speaker 1: because your number one if it's a guy, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: the best thing that Taylon Austin could have ever become

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Speaker 1: would be a Deshaun Jackson type, right, a smaller receiver,

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Speaker 1: very very fast, good on the outside. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: what four years now into Taylon Austin's career. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear he's going to turn into that. Well, he's a type,

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Speaker 1: He's just not that guy exactly. Yeah. I mean, so

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Speaker 1: does that mean that if you get better weapons on

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Speaker 1: the outside, that Tavon Austin can be someone that goes

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Speaker 1: on the inside and can make plays in that way?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: But the way they're trying to use him here, like,

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Speaker 1: I think there's too many solutions the speed factor, trying

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Speaker 1: to get him out on the edge on the rounds.

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Speaker 1: I think defenses have adjusted to that. I think definitely

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Speaker 1: the run game, the interior run game with Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: is suffering because of that. You know, there's three a's

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Speaker 1: to every defense. I don't know if you know this

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Speaker 1: um alignment, assignment and adjustment, right, that's the big thing.

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Speaker 1: You got to know where to line up, what your

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Speaker 1: assignment is, and then adjust to what you see. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: if the first two kills that offense, where you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a good day on defense, Okay? Yeah, If alignment

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Speaker 1: and assignment is enough to stop that offense, then by

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, you're going to be in trouble, or

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Speaker 1: at least that quarterback is. So I think that's what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing right now towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: do offensively, you don't have enough talent to run? Well

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Speaker 1: do we Okay, this is this is probably gonna sound bad,

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Speaker 1: but do we know what the Rams are trying to

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Speaker 1: do offensively? Well? Yeah, isn't it? Isn't that part of

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Speaker 1: the issue that we don't really know what the Rams

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Speaker 1: when you would have a Tavon Austin, a gadget guy

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Speaker 1: and they're becoming the extra body for Todd Gurley to

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Speaker 1: get through. So what you're trying to do now when

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Speaker 1: past weekend in the Coliseum, it looks like preseason mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's either the running back can't find the

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Speaker 1: figure out who to get and how to get him,

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Speaker 1: and then you're stuck in the backfield. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's where you are as an offense. And

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Speaker 1: I mean I wish this was two years down the line.

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Speaker 1: So if that happens, you can have a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: a Jared Goff. That's experience that can take over the game.

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Speaker 1: But you just don't have that in your magic bag

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Speaker 1: of Goff is sort of coming into play here and

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Speaker 1: golf does not necessarily look great over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he through for ninety yards passing against San

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Speaker 1: Francisco in San Francisco, one of the worst defenses in

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Speaker 1: the league. I mean, the thirty second ranked. They might

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Speaker 1: not be anymore, and I haven't really checked, but after

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Speaker 1: they were number one for one day, right, exactly, well,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Rams obviously did not do very

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Speaker 1: well against them in the Week one matchup, and now

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Speaker 1: you come here to Week sixteen, and it's just too

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Speaker 1: much of the same story, right, you know, we know

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Speaker 1: now that this is a really bad run defense and

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Speaker 1: the Rams still cannot get the run game going. I

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Speaker 1: think that tells you just where the Rams are in

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Speaker 1: terms of their offense and how they have to be

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Speaker 1: able to get better going into twenty seventeen. Absolutely, if

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Speaker 1: and the production, it's just not there. You can't blame

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Speaker 1: that on just one group. I think that's a collective failure.

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Speaker 1: Even the touchdown, it seemed like the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: just lost him in traffic. You know, I looked at

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Speaker 1: that touchdown. They had it. They bottled did, and my

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Speaker 1: basically a power there on the goal line, right, or

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Speaker 1: a trap, whatever you want to call it. And Andrew

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Speaker 1: decently on the inside for Gurley to get that one

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Speaker 1: gets in any way. Ricochet, Yes, yeah, So you know

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Speaker 1: when we say it's not all on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and believe me, I'm not saying that the offensive line

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Speaker 1: has played that well this season. But there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of reasons why Todd Gurley has not been the

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley that we've seen I think in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and no doubt, and think of the old line that

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Speaker 1: about the one that started the year. Right, You've got

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Speaker 1: two starters on the bench and Danelle is new Sapple's

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Speaker 1: back at left tackles, Jamon Brown is in. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean preseason mistakes when you're trying to

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Speaker 1: versus a defense that's been hammered at for weeks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like the running play, they're gonna give up gaps

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Speaker 1: if they lose you, and you can somehow find your

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Speaker 1: it's tough sled and running the football. It's really sof

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Speaker 1: this pointed out to me today. Um, you know that

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Speaker 1: there was a Kreem Abdul Jabbar who played who played football.

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Speaker 1: I played against him, not not the same guy, right,

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Speaker 1: So this is the basketball player the football players, I know,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. What's your jokes? I'm yeah, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: jar the basketball player played football. No, you mean the

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Speaker 1: football player. I mean the football player one that used

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Speaker 1: to be Sharman Shaw did was he? I don't know, okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I just know that that his name is

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to you got me too too deep

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Speaker 1: into He used to be a brown h Yeah he was,

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Speaker 1: and he played for the Browns in nineteen nine. He

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Speaker 1: had he had like a Todd Gurley type season. This

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Speaker 1: kind of season that you know we're going to see

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Speaker 1: from Todd Grilly this year. Because if you look at

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Speaker 1: what Todd is projected to get to, it's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty two carries, about nine hundred and six yards,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jabbar had fifteen that year. Todd Grilly has

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Speaker 1: a really poor season for Todd Grilly and is no doubt. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you get that many carries and you're still pointing fingers,

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Speaker 1: then there's a problem. Well I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do we feel like Todd Grilly is really no? But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying anybody that's out there saying it's just

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Speaker 1: it's not just one group, it's everything. It's not. It

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Speaker 1: really is everything, and I think it has Seeing you

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Speaker 1: brought us up last week, you know, with the drop

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Speaker 1: sustaining drives, well, I agree. If you have more opportunities,

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Speaker 1: you're you're more likely to pop one at some point. Right.

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Speaker 1: Part of the issue is that the Rams passing game

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Speaker 1: has just been bad. And then when the passing game

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Speaker 1: is bad and you can't stop, you can't do anything

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Speaker 1: with the run game. We're talking about this earlier in

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Speaker 1: the year, where you know when case Keenum was the

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Speaker 1: and you know, we'd say, yeah, well, eventually what you

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Speaker 1: need to do is be able to make plays on

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Speaker 1: the run game. Well, if that's not happened, right, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody needs to respect your passing game, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's why everything is focused on the run game

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Speaker 1: has not done anything all year, right, but it's been

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Speaker 1: called what do you mean some of those players have

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Speaker 1: been called trying to take advantage of plays outside that Oh? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: So you have to look at who's doing the playmaking

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Speaker 1: I think this is, you know, a team wide thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who their best playmakers are, period,

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Speaker 1: It looks like a seven yard out. And if Jared

423
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: Goff delivers the ball at seven yards and you're all

424
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: the way back at nine and a half ten, that's

425
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: why the ball skips in there and you're diving right

426
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: because it's not going to work, yeah, because you're not

427
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be. And I sort of felt

428
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: the same way on the play with the interception. Was

429
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: that a great throw? Probably not. Should it have been

430
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: the read? Maybe not, But if the wide receiver comes

431
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: out there and he's running the good route, it's probably

432
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: not going to be picked off because at the very

433
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: least you're going to have a fifty fifty ball between

434
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: the cornerback and the wide receiver. So these are issues

435
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, and if it's if it's you know,

436
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what my assignment is, I'm not I'm

437
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: not doing my route properly. Whatever it is, these are

438
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: the kinds of mistakes that cost you ball games. All

439
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: you have to do is get just a few yards

440
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 1: down the field because Greg Zirline can kick out of him.

441
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: He's got the distance exactly. Let's hope he hits it right. Sure,

442
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: but at least you want to give him a chance. Absolutely,

443
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: and you could have had the chance. But if you

444
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: look at those two players, the first pick and the

445
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: last one, give the defender credit. He played both guys

446
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: they played the ball with extreme confidence they did, which

447
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: means you didn't full him at all, and they were

448
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: afraid of you. Yeah. So it could have been bad route.

449
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: It could have been they don't respect his arm strength.

450
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: It could have been one of a thousand things that

451
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: cause you to turn the ball over. But when I

452
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: see guys make that confident a break on the football,

453
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: they've got you. Yeah, And we've seen this for a

454
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 1: couple of weeks now we have Yeah, So I think

455
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: it's just a function of where you are as an offense,

456
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: not just Jared Goff. I agree, because there are tools

457
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: where you see Jared Goff, you know, really fire the ball.

458
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: That the touchdown pass he had Tyler Higbee. I thought

459
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: that was really good, Yeah, because it was just it

460
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: was good fundamentals. He was standing back there in the

461
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: pocket off the play action. He waited a little bit

462
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: until Higbee got open enough and fired the ball into

463
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: the window. It was a p rod and he got

464
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Speaker 1: the touchdown. These are the kinds of traits that I think,

465
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, that's why he was drafted

466
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: number one overall because he has that kind of ability.

467
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: He's got a whip. What I like is the pocket presence.

468
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: There are times when he stepped up through a blitz,

469
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: found the dead spot to at least through the football.

470
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: Now it's incomplete, but getting the ball out I would

471
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: say was a win, yeah for him. There was one

472
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: where it was a complete whiff on the old line

473
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: where they just absolutely turned the protection wrong way and

474
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: there's a free guy off the edge. Yeah, I mean

475
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: coming right down his throat from the right side, and

476
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: he still threw the ball on time to a receiver

477
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: and I think it was incomplete, but he got it

478
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: out to Tavon Austin. Yeah, took the pop, got up,

479
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: ran to the sideline. So I think all that stuff

480
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: is important. Eventually the connection is going to start to come. Well, yeah,

481
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I mean, obviously it's gonna be next

482
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: year with probably a different group of receivers. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah,

483
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking reality now, folks, and you know

484
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's week seventeen, and yeah, we're all where

485
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: we are. The coach has been dismissed, so it's not

486
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: like I think we're breaking any news here. Yeah, there's

487
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: there's a reason Aaron Rodgers loves what's his name, loves

488
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Yeah, he's a playmaker. Any quarterback that lines

489
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: up with Dez Bryant loves him. Yeah, Matt Ryan loves

490
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Absolutely, they're all playmakers. Put the ball in

491
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Speaker 1: an area, I'll get it, even the tight end in

492
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Oh, Travis Kelsey the great best thing that

493
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: ever happened, Alex Oh, no questions. You know what, I've

494
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: always opened the ball. I love about Travis Kelsey. As

495
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: we go off, on a tangent. Here is the way

496
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: he can both catch the ball, but he is a

497
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: dark good run block two. That's a special thing with

498
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: tight ends. They've had been very fortunate with that franchise.

499
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 1: Between you know, Tony Gonzalez and Travis Kelsey, those are

500
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: two really really awesome tight ends. Doesn't that suck? What?

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: Just two great tight ends in a row? You know,

502
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Indianapolis. You go from quarterbacks, you

503
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck and you've got

504
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: literally a one year break in there. At least with

505
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and Tony Gonzalez. There were a few more years.

506
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: You know. Did I tell you this story it was

507
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: about Cleveland too? I don't think so. I never told

508
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: you the story storytime. It's a great let's go, Oh

509
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: my gosh. You have to help me with the dates

510
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: going all the way back to when Andrew Luck was

511
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: coming out of school. Well year was at that was

512
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, because he was picked in the twenty twelve draft. Okay,

513
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: so the Rams are playing Cleveland at Cleveland in twenty eleven. Yeah,

514
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: I remember this game, man? Do I remember this game?

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: No bider? Right? Yeah? The Rams hadn't won in a while.

516
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Both teams hadn't won in a while, so it was

517
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: tooth and nail trying to get a venture right. So

518
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland's driving down for the winning field goal. Yes, um,

519
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: it's a chip shot line up and they missed. It

520
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: was actually blocked, James, it was blocked. Remember the Rams win.

521
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, happy flight going home. Do you know what

522
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: a loss would have meant. It would have meant that

523
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: the Rams probably would have had the number one overall

524
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: pick and you would have gotten Andrew Luck most likely.

525
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: Now going back, would you rather lose the game? Well? Problem,

526
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: going back? You haven't had a win in a while. Yeah, yeah,

527
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: would you rather lose the game? Yeah? Well, I you

528
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: know I remember that game because that was Pat Shermo,

529
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: who used to be the Rams offensive coordinator. He gave

530
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: the ball to a tight end who was lined up

531
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: in eye formation as the fullback right. Yes, he gave

532
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: it to him in the red zone. What are you

533
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: he fumbled? Yes? Why would you do that? I was

534
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: I was so mad. I was like, I was really

535
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: really lived in. I was so happy. I couldn't I

536
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: could not believe. I wrote a blog that Yeah, that

537
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: was had some mean words in it. But yeah, I mean,

538
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: but really, if if you knew that, would you lose

539
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: the game on purpose just to get that guy? I

540
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean you can tell you, well, yeah,

541
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: if you want me to lose on purpose, take me

542
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: out of the game, right, yeah? I mean, well that's

543
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: what people were saying about the Browns last week. Who

544
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: did win a game. They're not going to go ohen sixteen, right,

545
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna go to Pittsburgh this week and without Ben

546
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Levon Bell and Antonio Brown who knows me too, Yeah,

547
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: maybe go too. But everybody who was on Twitter, you

548
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: know before the Rams kickoff thing, gag, oh my, well

549
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: they won a game. Now they might not get the

550
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Who is going to be number one?

551
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: And what do you know? It's still the Browns because

552
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: the Niners beat the Browns, excuse me, the Rams a

553
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: second time, so the Niners got to too. I don't

554
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: even know who the top quarterback is this year, do you? Um?

555
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, it kind of depends on who you ask.

556
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: It's not Andrew Luck. No, it's not Andrew Luck. It's

557
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: not a franchise saving guy. Nobody, nobody. I mean, come on, like,

558
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: how how many times in ten years does a guy

559
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: come out like Andrew Luck? Once? Twice? Well, if you

560
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: listen to the pundits three or four times, well I don't,

561
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean they're right right, I mean, they

562
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: get proven wrong all the time. Sam, We're supposed to

563
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: be in two super Bowls by now. I know, Sam Bradford,

564
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: I know. But I mean if you listen again, if

565
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: you're talking about pundits, you know, you listen to them

566
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: talking about Jamis Winston a couple of years old. And

567
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: I think Jameis Winston is going to be very, very

568
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: very But is he on the level of an Andrew Luck? No? No,

569
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean you can say the same thing about Jared Goff,

570
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, on the same level as an Andrew Luck

571
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: as a number one overall pick. No. Yes, And that's

572
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: okay because not all drafts are created equal. Medal quarterbacks

573
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: are created equal, and you know, you you have to

574
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: do what's best for you and your team in your situation,

575
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: whatever it is. In each and every year, didn't run

576
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: Dr Worsky say that Colin Kaepernick was going to be

577
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever? Probable boy, yeah, a couple of

578
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: years ago. Huh. Yeah, you might want to back down

579
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: off that. Maybe, Yeah, it happens. You'd never know, Um,

580
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. You've got golf now, Um, yeah,

581
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: there is something to build around. I still think there's

582
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: talent there. Um. I think there's a lot of team golf.

583
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I think there's talent on

584
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: that old line. I think there's talent on that offense.

585
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: I just think outside of the numbers, you made need

586
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: something better. That's how we got on that that conversation

587
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: about Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean one of the things

588
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: that I did notice about this game though, um, speaking

589
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: of players that are on the outside, is Farroll Cooper,

590
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: you know. And I thought that he did a really, really,

591
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: really nice job in the kick return game. And clearly

592
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: we have not seen that kind of thing translate to

593
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: the offense set or whatever with Farare Cooper, but there's

594
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: something there with him being able to return the ball. Yeah.

595
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to how he is a playmaker.

596
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: And if you get the ball in his hands and

597
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: he's got to catch it. But if you get the

598
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, he really can't make something happen.

599
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Guys like that drive me nuts. What do you mean,

600
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Devin Hester's of the world drive me crazy? Oh? They're

601
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: so good with the ball in their hands, yeah, but

602
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: they have a tough time getting it m Yeah. I

603
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: mean outside of handing it directly to them or kicking

604
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: it to them, it's hard to get them the football. Right.

605
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: If you see the way Devin Hester returns kicks and

606
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: punts and everything else, you would think he'd be one

607
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: of the better receivers. Right. It just does not translate. Sure,

608
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe, I mean, it's too early to tell

609
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: about Farrell Cooper it is, Yeah, but to see that

610
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: sort of talent, that that sort of run after catchability

611
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: not being able to be used in an offensive series, right,

612
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: is frustrating. Well, absolutely, I think that's sort of It's

613
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing I would go back to

614
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: with a Tyler Higbee, you know, because we in the

615
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: preseason and in training camp, all we saw was this dude, like,

616
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: just make him play after play after play on the

617
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: red zone. Now, have the Ram's probably been down in

618
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: the red zone this year, all that often new, But

619
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I think there are definitely elements to his game that

620
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: we have not seen for whatever reason, whether it's him

621
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: being flexed out as sort of a wide receiver tight

622
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: end ish person, you know, like a Tyler Effort, Travis Kelsey,

623
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham is in that mold. We have not seen

624
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: that for whatever reason, and that's something that I think

625
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: the next coach is probably gonna want to expore a

626
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: little bit more with him because I do think he's

627
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: got talent to do that. Well. I think he was

628
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: blocked this year by Lance Kendricks. Yeah, yeah, maybe if

629
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: he had the reps that Lance had, maybe you'd see

630
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: more of that red zone stuff maybe, But it's not

631
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: just the red zone. I mean sometimes you get in

632
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: the situation where it's second and seven, third and four,

633
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: you need that play, you do, You need that that

634
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: conversion to keep the offense on the field. So yeah,

635
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, I'm completely shocked. I thought he

636
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: would really have a fantastic year. But every time the

637
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: offense went out it was usually Lance Kendricks. Every time

638
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: there was a play to a tight end, it was

639
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: usually Lance Kendricks. And then sometimes LANs Kendricks would drop

640
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: the football and it ends up in the hands of

641
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: a defender. Mistakes there. So yeah, at some point, I

642
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: think it will be Tyler Higbee show. Like we said,

643
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: whoever comes in next, all bets are off. Yeah with everybody,

644
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: including the Vets. Yeah. Absolutely, And I mean that's the way.

645
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: That's the way it is with any team once they

646
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: get a new head coach, right. I mean, you know

647
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: when somebody talks about, I don't know, you get a

648
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: new manager, you know, whatever walk of life you're in,

649
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, get your resume ready, yeah, you know,

650
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: because you never know what's going to happen. And one

651
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: thing I think that's the Fossil has talked about over

652
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the course of the last few weeks since he's been

653
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the interim head coaches. You know, it's not just players

654
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: that are playing for their next job in the NFL,

655
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: whether it's on this team or another. It's also the

656
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: coaches that are they're coaching for their jobs. And so

657
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: I think it's thing that it's brought that up, and

658
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's made that point over and over again

659
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: and at least to the media that he feels like

660
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: he is coaching for his job too, you know, So

661
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: it's not just on the players, it's on him, it's

662
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: on the rest of the coaching staff in order to

663
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: finish this season out in the best way that they can. Oh.

664
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely behind every great season or vice versa is going

665
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: to be that assistant coach. Yeah, if your guy goes

666
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, great, that's great for your resume.

667
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: If your guy has been yanked, benched, moved on from

668
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: sure you'll probably follow. So sometimes there's nothing you can

669
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: do as a coach at this point. You your players

670
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: are going to play the way they're gonna play, and well,

671
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that's what happens when and sometimes I'm not sure if

672
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: people really got this aspect of you know, the Rams

673
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: moving on from Fisher with just three games to go.

674
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: There's not that much that you can chase nothing, right, No,

675
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's not just that you've been

676
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: doing what you've been doing for the last um I

677
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: don't know what the fourteen weeks, right, That stuff goes

678
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: back into training camp, it goes into OTA's you It's

679
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: so like, you know, when you get people at the

680
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: press conference is asking, well, what are you gonna do

681
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: to get this offense going? What are you gonna that question? What?

682
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: What do you expect him that you think it's gonna

683
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: bring in a whole new playbook. Um, I think some

684
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: people actually think that's possible, but it's not. It's not

685
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: even close. I mean, what you're gonna do at this

686
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: point is just do what you've been doing and try

687
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: to do it a little bit better. Right. Yeah, you

688
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: can't fool the forty nine ers, and you're not going

689
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: to fool the Arizona card No. Yeah, I mean there's

690
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: fifteen games of you, yeah on tape. Um, there's nothing

691
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: new that you're going to see from them, and they're

692
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: gonna see from you. You're gonna run what you're gonna

693
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: run and see if they can stop it, vice versa. Now,

694
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: so you know what, we've now got three head coach

695
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: openings in the NFL between the Rams, the Jaguars, and

696
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: the Bills. Who dismissed Rex Ryan yesterday what kind of

697
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, but Monty Jones said, like, take your

698
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: man's with you. Well, that's kind of funny. I mean

699
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: those guys are really entertaining, and you know, whenever we're

700
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: at the Combine or whatever, I always like to just

701
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: watch the race Ryan Best conference because it's got bravado.

702
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Another thing that you know is interesting about him is

703
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: that he always comes from a place of positivity, and

704
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: so you know, why not. You know, it's nice to

705
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: see somebody be so positive about and inconfident about the

706
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: way the team can be built and all these different things. So,

707
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, best of luck directs Ryan, I guess on

708
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: whatever your next venture is, yeah, or TV anyway, Yeah, exactly.

709
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: But the thing I want to bring up here is

710
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: there are I think attractive qualities to each one of

711
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: these jobs that would be out there. What do you

712
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: think would be one of the some of the attractive

713
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: qualities that would attract coaching candidates to the Rams. Oh? Well,

714
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Number one, Um, the owner's willingness to spend money. Think

715
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: about Jeff Fisher's contract and how much he was being paid. Um,

716
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two, you are in southern California,

717
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: You're in Hollywood. Yeah, football hasn't been here. Professional football

718
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: hasn't been here for over twenty years. If you get

719
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: this right here and become a playoff team, or you

720
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: build what Belichick built in New England and you build

721
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: it here, yeah, the Lakers may be sitting second fiddle

722
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: to you in southern California. If you can build something

723
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: like that, If you can build that that's a huge if.

724
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: It's a huge if. But I mean, look, if you

725
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: if you come in under that and you're a perennial

726
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: playoff team, you're still immortal, You're still really good, You're

727
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: absolutely but you're right. Imagine if you can win a

728
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: Lombardi in this town, oh my god, you write your

729
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: own ticket. Absolutely. Um. And the weather you can practice

730
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: all year long, you can. Yeah. Um, the benefit of

731
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: being in southern California playing the forty nine ers in

732
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: December in your house for the most part, the weather

733
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: is always great. Did you turn on the TV? Did

734
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: you see some of those other games? I did? Yeah,

735
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: you don't have that here. Yeah, that's a luxury. So yeah,

736
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives to be in here, and

737
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: there's there's young talent. Yeah. Um, I still think the

738
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: the draw of a Jared Goff would still be enough.

739
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: I think so too. I do tend to think that, Yeah, Buffalo,

740
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do with Tyrod Taylor? Right? Um?

741
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: And I heard they're not going to play him, Yes

742
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: they're not. They're playing Yeah, they're playing e j Emanuel instead.

743
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: And what it looks like is that it's it's all

744
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: It was a front office decision, and now Anthony Lynn

745
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: is the new interim head coach and they basically trotted

746
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: him out there and nobody else to kind of explain

747
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: the decision, and the decision was made above him. So

748
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: that was sort of an interesting press conference thing that

749
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: happened on Wednesday. It sound like a hostage negotiator, right, Yeah,

750
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: it was made behind me. But that tells you Tyrod's

751
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: not the guy. So that quarterback position is in flux.

752
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland's Cleveland, Sorry not Cleveland. Why are you bringing forget it?

753
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: There should be a job there. Kidding got one win

754
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: in they have one win, but they also are like

755
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: a historically bad franchise. One win and you have job

756
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: security because they need they need to do something to

757
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: keep continuity. You cannot keep. That says a lot something.

758
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: You turn one season and you're security. Here's the deal. Yeah,

759
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: it says how bad they've been for the last you know, fifteen,

760
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: almost like child up behind what. I don't even know

761
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: what you mean to get all apps and you still

762
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: pass no I think to explain what that is. Yeah,

763
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I read something. It was a tweet somewhere that said

764
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: good organizations don't change head coaches every two years, right now,

765
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, BELI, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So that's what the

766
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Browns are and I think that's what they're trying to

767
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: get out of. And the only way to the only

768
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: way to build something is to build it. And it's

769
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: my understanding following what I've been following out of out

770
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, is that that's what they're trying to do. Okay,

771
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: when I see one win, I think coaching vacancy. I'm sorry,

772
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: I understand, right, But Jacksonville, Right, you've got a choice

773
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: Bortles or Gough. And if you're a head coach, if

774
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: you're a head coaching candidate, and you have your choice

775
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: between Buffalo, Jacksonville and LA which one of those two

776
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do you like the most? I mean, if it's me,

777
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: I would like golf because I think there's more that

778
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: you can mold there. Um Borrels has been in this

779
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: league for what four or three four years now, so

780
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: it's there are some probably habits that might be too

781
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: ingrained in him, right, if that makes any sense depends.

782
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're both, you know, great lumps

783
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: of clay that you can mold. Still, ye, So there's

784
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: some upside to both guys now considered division. Yeah, yeah,

785
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think you can win down there in

786
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville a whole lot faster than you can win in

787
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: the NFC West, And that would be something that I think,

788
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, coaches were probably take into consideration. But I

789
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: want to compete at the highest level also, there's that

790
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: I want to win and where it's toughest, not where

791
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: it's easiest. And hey, I think we've seen that, especially

792
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: this year. You know, the Arizonas of the world, the

793
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: Seattles of the world. You can go in and beat

794
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: these teams. Yes, you know, as long as if you

795
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: know them well enough, you can compete with them. So

796
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: I think that that's just the way it is. You know.

797
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: It's not like these two teams have been so dominant

798
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: in the division that they've dominated everybody else in the division, right,

799
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: They've not. And that's been the case even over the

800
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: last couple of years. I mean, even when the Rams

801
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: were going you know, six and ten in twenty fourteen

802
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: or seven to nine last year, they were still competing

803
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: with the Seattles of the world, with the Arizonas and

804
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: beating those two teams as well. Yeah, So, like this

805
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: division is hot, it's great, it's loaded. I think, like

806
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: you said, Seattle's not going anywhere, But that wouldn't scare

807
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: me away from taking this job just because Seattle is

808
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: great and Arizona is all this whatever. I would love

809
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: to compete at the highest level and I'd love to

810
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: get paid more than a lot of other people. So

811
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: I think this job would fit, would be attract to

812
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: a good coach. You know. One of the other things

813
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I think about, UM when thinking about you know, you

814
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: brought up you know, more depockets or whatnot. UM the staff.

815
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: You can probably get a larger staff, and you can

816
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: get anybody you want, and I think that's something we've

817
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: seen even under even in this current staff. You know,

818
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of experience in a lot of

819
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: different places, in a lot of different areas that can

820
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: help you, particularly on defense. You know we've talked about

821
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: this before, not not on the air, but you know,

822
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: if you you're talking about defensive line, well you've got

823
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Mike Waffle who's the D line coach, and then right

824
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 1: behind him you got Clyde Simmons. And that's somebody who's

825
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: been in the league, who's been around and who can

826
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: help you as an old hand. You know, Frank Bush,

827
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: you've got him, call him old? I said old hand,

828
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: which was you just called Clyde Simmons old. No, I'm

829
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna tell him I did not call him out to practice.

830
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I didn't say that soon as this little guy called

831
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: you old hand. You can't prove that was me. Yes,

832
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I can listen to the podcast. Well edt that with

833
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: me because I'm not gonna be the one who anyway, yeah, somebody,

834
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Yeah, Yeah, that's one

835
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: thing I would be hiring. I would be hiring a

836
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: person that can build the staff. Now, I'll go back

837
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: to Dick Vermill when he took over. Um, he brought

838
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: a lot of experience himself, but every one of our

839
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: coaches had championship experience on some level. He all brought

840
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: that together, and you know, once we got Marshall, everything

841
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of worked out and the super Bowl. But yeah,

842
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: i'd be looking for championship coaches to come in. Okay, Yeah,

843
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: that's that's something I'm hiring. I'm not just hiring you.

844
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I want to know who who can you call the

845
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: coach running backs? Who can you call the coach quarterbacks?

846
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: If not you Yeah, who's going to run your defense?

847
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Who do you trust to run your defense? All that

848
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: stuff I'd be hiring. Yeah, I think that's one of

849
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: the most important elements. And um, Kevin dem off ramcos

850
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: So running the search, he brought this up. You know,

851
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: it's not just about Okay, well you want to get

852
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: somebody who's an offensive specialist, because then they can get

853
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback in Da da da da. You could still

854
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: get at somebody who's more of a defensive minded background

855
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: as long as they are, you know, the more CEO

856
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: type head coach, right, and they have the means to

857
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: hire the right people to train up everybody else on

858
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: the on the team. So it's not like you're just saying, Okay,

859
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: you need this guy because he is the offensive minded

860
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: head coach. You need the guy who's going to bring

861
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: in somebody who can run the offense the way it

862
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: needs to be run and make it better than it

863
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: is right now. How I want to hire a guy

864
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: that can put Jared Goff in the Pro Bowl. That's

865
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: that's That's all I'm concerned with. Yeah, I think you

866
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: need to focus your resources on building that investment on

867
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: making him as as great as he possibly can be

868
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: because everything else flows through that. Right. Yeah, as long

869
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: as you've got the quarterback in this league, you have

870
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: a chance to think about it. You've got the world's

871
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: greatest punner and the world's greatest defensive tackle. You do,

872
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: and you still have four wins. Right, you put that resource,

873
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: you put those resources into building a quarterback, which is

874
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: going to be tougher than the other two we just

875
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: mentioned it is. Your record could be flipped this time

876
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: of year, it could be. Yeah, that's that's what I

877
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: would try to do. Yeah, I agree. All right, Well

878
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: let's go to something else because this coming weekend it's

879
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. Yeah, and so who's playing Huskies? You

880
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: mean you mean in college football? Yes, I'm talking about

881
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the college not talking about college football or not because

882
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: you you will jinx it. I'm not going to we're

883
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: not talking about the Huskies. We're not talking about the Huskies.

884
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: That I'll talk about the Huskies. No, we have to talk.

885
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk have Alabama. Yeah, they have Alabama.

886
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: How are you feeling they have Alabama? Okay, I feel

887
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: like I'm talking to Philip Belichick right now? How much? Yeah,

888
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: we're onto Alabama. Um, here I'll give you a connection, you, Dub.

889
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: When I was there, our head coach was Don James.

890
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: Nick Saban just said recently, and I think you said

891
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: it before a long time ago, he wouldn't be in

892
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: coaching if it wasn't for Don James. Why is that

893
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: gave them a start? Okay, yeah, so they're connected way

894
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: back then. Um, so it's my brother asked me. Have

895
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: I gone to you, Dub and gave the team pep talks? No?

896
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Why not? This is their journey. Um, you

897
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: know our group, we we desired to be number one,

898
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: and we achieved it. And they saw us. We were

899
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: up there for a reunion. They saw what football immortality

900
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: looks like. As far as you know team sports, we

901
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: were there. The ninety one team will live on forever. Um.

902
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: If you want to take your place next to us,

903
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: go through Alabama. No, there's no motivation from us. That's

904
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: all for you. That's your journey, guys, that's Chris Peterson's journey.

905
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: So um, it couldn't be simpler for the Huskies. You

906
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: get through the best team in college football, you have

907
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: a shot at the biggest prize. This is true. Yes,

908
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: that's all you get all that's all you get. Yeah,

909
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: you want to see more. Come to my house on

910
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: game day. It's gonna be kind of crazy. M You

911
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: know you dude, you don't want you don't want to

912
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: be near me with a husky game. Yeah, you don't

913
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: want to be around me, especially when it's going bad. Yeah.

914
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: I almost lost it on Marie's Jones Drew because he

915
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: thought I was kidding. Really Yeah, this is when sc

916
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: was sc beat Washingt. Yeah, I'm not having a good day.

917
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Is No, everything sucks today. Everything sucks today. I don't

918
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: care if the food is awesome. It sucks right now. Yes,

919
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You know, you still you still made it.

920
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: The Rams won that weekend. What weekend was that New

921
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: York and it's still weekend. Yeah, it still sucks that

922
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: week I was the only bitter person on the plane.

923
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah you probably were. Yes, it was nine to three.

924
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: That was nine. That wasn't interesting. No, on nine to six,

925
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: that was one of them. That's the last time the

926
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: Rams of one. Yes, you believe it. We've been through

927
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: almost three months, you know, and Fossil brought this up

928
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: and the Rams of won one game. Crazy, It is

929
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. You know. I was gonna tell you about

930
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: the defense. Oh, we didn't even talk about the defense.

931
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: What do you call that? Bernard Hopkins and it's so funny.

932
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: A friend of mine, he just got knocked out of

933
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: the ring recently, but he was fifty one years old.

934
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: We were talking about a fight and he's fighting a

935
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: bigger guy and he told me, I think it's the

936
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: parable of the cyclops or something like that to where

937
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: you ever seen a cyclops. Yeah, it's huge, it's monstrous,

938
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: but it has one eye. One eye, right, Cyclops, cyclops

939
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Greek mythology. I studied that a lot, thank you. But

940
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: that's how he approached fights. Well, you could use that

941
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: same deal for the Rams defense. There's been plenty of

942
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: multi sack games for this team. Yes, how many multi

943
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: interception games have there been? I think there's been zero,

944
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: or there's been one versus Arizona. Yeah, one. So once

945
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: you go at their weakness, that one, the cyclops, the eye.

946
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Once you get past the pass rush, you realize there's

947
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: not much playmaking happening in the back end, right, So

948
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I think that's been the difference for this defense. I

949
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: think this defense was great a month ago. Yeah, yeah,

950
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: I think I think the frustration right after the three

951
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: game win streak, when you were close, close, close, close, close,

952
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: close close, and you were really playing one one defense

953
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: and you kept coming away with els. I think that

954
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: got to them by the time they got to New Orleans.

955
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I think so too that you know, and I brought

956
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: this theory up to somebody this week and they're like,

957
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I honestly I believe that they're

958
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: playing at a playoff caliber level for much of the season.

959
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at what did against New York.

960
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, you allowed ten points in London, like that's something.

961
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, you only allowed what thirteen points to Carolina

962
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: at home? Those should have been victories. Yes, yes, So

963
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: there have there been lapses, absolutely. I mean the Buffalo

964
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: game is one. You were missing three defensive line starters.

965
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: You couldn't say whatever you want about that. New Orleans obviously,

966
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: that's another one. But I think once you did get

967
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: to that point and you've just been on this losing

968
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: streak and there are no touchdowns being scored, you're not

969
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: getting over ten points basically. Ever, it's really really tough

970
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: on that unit, and then it all turns south in

971
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the media. Yeah, at the same time. Yeah, just like

972
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: the last month, they haven't been great and they don't

973
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: take the ball away enough. Now they don't. Yeah, if

974
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: they if they could become playmakers in the back end

975
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more, maybe you have a chance to

976
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: turn some of these games around in the last month.

977
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: But without an offense and the way you're not taking

978
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: the ball away, it just you broke. Well. You know,

979
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: this may be a game that the Rams do it

980
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: because I mean, as you brought up, you know, this

981
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: is the the the Arizona Cardinals game was the only

982
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: game in which the Rams had like a multiple multiple

983
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: multiple takeaways. They have five against Arizona in that last matchup. So, hey,

984
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: if it's ever gonna happen in the twenty sixteen season,

985
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: there's only one more game left. You know, there's gotta

986
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: be right, gotta be um. And look you're facing I

987
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: guess the the the the best back in the league. Yeah,

988
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: they say, honestly, yes, David Johnson has been excellent and

989
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: he what do they call him? I think Sean Payton

990
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 1: called him a transformer. I thought that was a cool,

991
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: way to cool label to give to him because that's

992
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: exactly what he does. Yeah, no matter what play you call,

993
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: he turns into that player either running a traditionally uh

994
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, tackle to tackle, or out of the backfield

995
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: as a receiver, or line up as a receiver on

996
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: the outside to get that a few times against Seattle

997
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: last week. After the catch, you've got problems. Yeah, yeah,

998
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: after the catch, you've got some serious problems. So he

999
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: tests everything first, he tests your discipline on traditional plays.

1000
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Then he tests your pursuit, right, because he's gonna make

1001
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: guys miss. Yea, yeah, he's gonna make a lot of

1002
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: guys miss. If rams fans are like, if they want

1003
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: to see a running back make people miss, watch this guy.

1004
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Guaranteed he's gonna make people miss this year. Are this

1005
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: this game? Yeah, guaranteed he will. Yes, So we will

1006
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: see what happens on Sunday, de far part and shot

1007
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: anything else. I just love how you try to wrap

1008
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: it up. What I just love how you try to

1009
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: wrap it up. Are we done? Yeah? I done? I

1010
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: got hours left. We have talked about Christmas presents yet.

1011
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh we didn't talk about Christmas pagets. I got we

1012
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: did talk about Christmas. We didn't talked about that on

1013
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: the air. Off the air, I'm like what you get.

1014
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: It's been forty seven minutes. No, I got I got

1015
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: some nice stuff for my mom. I got some I

1016
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: got some shaving cream, nice shaving elements. Nice. She gets

1017
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: me that like almost every year, but it's it always

1018
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: works because I don't have to shave that, so like

1019
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: it lasts me for practically the entire year for you.

1020
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's really really cool. Um. I got

1021
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: her a fitbit because she mentioned it once. Yeah, And

1022
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: we're on the phone, so like I sent it to her,

1023
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and so I also gave her some Christmas ornaments that

1024
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: I got in London, one from Windsor Castle, one from Stonehenge.

1025
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: So we're talking on the phone on Christmas and like

1026
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm expecting your something about the fitbit. She's going on

1027
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: and on and on about the Christmas and she mentioned briefly.

1028
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: She's like that wasn't really a hint when I was

1029
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: talking about the fitbit before. But the Christmas ornaments? Yeah, wow,

1030
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: how was your Christmas? I'm not telling you. That's it.

1031
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: That's all we get. Thank you. This has been between

1032
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: the horns. That's miles. I'm defar you're gonna tell us

1033
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: about the Christmas, about your Christmas, right, we got No,

1034
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm not cutting this off until you tell us about this.

1035
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: Christmas was awesome to watch people open presents, Okay, especially

1036
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: the twenty month old of course. Yeah. And it's so funny,

1037
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: more interested in the box and the paper than the actions. Really,

1038
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: So that's like a true thing that people say, because

1039
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: obviously I don't know. I don't have children, but like

1040
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: people do say, like, yeah, we got her the mini

1041
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the mini stainless pots and pans because she loves taking

1042
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: like mine, so let's give her her own mini sets.

1043
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: So I spent hours wrapping this thing, right, Okay, I

1044
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: mean I wanted this to be perfect. Yeah, like the

1045
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: first time she's gonna actually unwrap a gift on her own.

1046
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: So we wake her up in bed, put the gift

1047
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: in bed with her. She's so happy, you know, we

1048
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Speaker 1: little bits and piece like little like little bits, right,

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Speaker 1: so it's just like two inches at a time. This

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Speaker 1: whole unwrapping took like fifteen minutes. It's just so cute.

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Speaker 1: And then she finally gets all the wrapping paper off

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Speaker 1: and there's the gift, the stainless stuff. Yeah, and she

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Speaker 1: that up more. It's just so funny. Yeah, so cute. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well here's one more thing. Yeah. Um, so by the

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Yeah. Do you have New Year's resolutions? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't either, why exactly? Yeah. If you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: a change, just do it this week. Just do it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't wait, you know, yeah, yeah, like I let me see,

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Speaker 1: let me think, let's make up one. All right, new

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Speaker 1: Year's resolution? What are we What are we going to

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Speaker 1: do differently? What am I going to do? What are

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Speaker 1: we both you and I are going to do something

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Speaker 1: differently together? What are we gonna do next year? Next year?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We probably should have thought about this before.

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Speaker 1: We just go on the air and just have dead

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Speaker 1: air while we think about more podcasts on location. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh bang, there it is. All right, So everybody, thank

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Speaker 1: you for tuning in to this week's edition of Between

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Speaker 1: the Horns. Help you have started the show. I can't

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Speaker 1: finish the show either. Let's try that again, all right?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Thank you everybody for tuning into this

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Speaker 1: week's edition of Between the Horns. Josh, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for producing the show today. Today is December twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. As DeMarco tries to heckle me before I

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Speaker 1: finished the show. Thank you anyway, DeMarco for being here.

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Speaker 1: Is always like, what's Todd Gurley's number? What what you're doing?

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Speaker 1: I need a starting nor it's right in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Oh your phone, not like thirty? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for tuning into this week's edition of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. For Josh my producer for DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: I'm Miles Simmons. Wherever you may be in football. We

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Speaker 1: may see you next time