1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: I have someone who identifies as my congressman on today, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: and I say identifies because he was at one point 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: and got districted out. But I refuse to accept that, 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming he does also, So thank you so 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: much for being here. I have Congressman Bill Heisinga from 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Michigan with me today. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, good to be with you, Tutor, longtime listener, first 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: time participant in the Tutor Dixon Podcast. But I will 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: accept your your kind I guess that's kind. These days, 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: it gets a little funny anytime you're identifying as something. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: But I will I will take it. I will still 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: represent you and like minded people that are trapped. I 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: mean living in the third district of Michigan now, and 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: we'll just call it. You know, I'm in the fourth. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Maybe it's the three point five district. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: Hill is because when I came to Washington with my 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: daughter's eighth grade class, Congresswoman Skulton blew us off, even 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: though she was supposed to bring us our passes, and 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: we had to go to you, and you saved us. 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: So I do not forget those things, and neither have 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: the children, because. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I won't let them. 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: It's such a good mom, I know. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: I like, remember our congresswoman how she ditched us. Yeah, 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: tell all your friends. 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: This is a bad move with someone with a podcast. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: All right, So all right, all right, so no, but 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: let's get to something serious. You've re taught me how 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: to say Iran. 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: You mean Iran? 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Now I have to say Iran. Yes, yes, Iran. 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: It's like you're going to go to Italy or are 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: you going to go to Italy? 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: I hope I get to go there one day and 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: be out of Michigan for a little bit, So I'll 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: take either one. 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: But I don't want to go to Iran. 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: Yes, no, I don't. I don't either. But in fact, 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: you would be wondering with this administration, Uh, they it 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: feels like they're trying to buddy up to Iran or 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Iran or whatever you want to call it. It's bad news. 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: And you know, we obviously we saw this over the 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: over the weekend with the unprecedent again I hate that word, 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: but the never before seen direct attack on Israel from Iran. Uh, 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: the way that it the way that they had conducted 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: that over the weekend, and we came back to Washington. 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: Actually I came back early on on Monday, UH to 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: be a part of a floor debate about sanctions on Iran. 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: And you know the problem with this administration right now 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: is that they have softened and rolled back sanctions that 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: have been put on Iran over number of years, even 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: pre dating, uh, pre dating President Trump. So yeah, what 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: we what we saw with the with the Trump administration 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: was uh, you know, the maximum pressure and this has 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: been appeasement. They're trying everything they can to get them 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: pulled back into to the world stage. 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: So I think this is what people don't understand when 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: you talk about this, and when you say pre dating Trump, 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: let's be honest, that means that these are sanctions that 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: were in place when Biden was vice president and he 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: decided to get rid of these. 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: And when you talk about sanctions, I think sometimes. 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: People are like, I don't really understand what that means 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: and why that's helpful. But those who are really preventing 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: them from making massive amount billions of dollars on oil, 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: and that's why they now have so much power. With 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: money comes power. They have energy that creates money, that 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: creates power, and when you have power in the hands 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: of a known terrorist, organization. And let's be honest, it 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: is the number one state sponsor for terror in the 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: world comes out of Iran. 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I can't even say it now. 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: But this is why, this is why even the Obama 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: administration had controls on Iran, saying you can't do all 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: of this. So why would Biden. It wasn't even just 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: that he let the say he took the sanctions off. 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: They also sent them money. I mean, there is a 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: massive amount of money going into this country. 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. And so it's kind of interesting. The 81 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: two committees I sit on right now, the Financial Services 82 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee, both have direct nexus 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: to what's going on. And here's how most of those 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: sanctions work. It's predominantly it is going through banking, because right, 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: money makes the world go round. And an oil, which 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: is a world commodity everywhere in the world, it's paid 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: for in US dollars, hard dollars, and it's traded that way. 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: What we had seen that had been building up and 89 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: then really under maximum pressure from the Trump administration was 90 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: a ratcheting down any exports allowed out of Iran and 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: getting that oil into the world market. What we've seen 92 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: with the Biden administration is a loosening and an encouraging 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: of that. And we've had a number of hearings in 94 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: both committees actually about what's been going on. And here's 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: how this is working. Treasury Department has to issue a 96 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: license if yours a sanction that is on saying, you know, 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: you're not allowed to use a banking system, or you're 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: not allowed to use the swift payment system, or you're 99 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: not allowed to use a system that will link federal banks, 100 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: for example centralized banks together and allow that transfer of 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: money back and forth. If you need an exemption on that, 102 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: you have to get a license from the Department of Treasury. Well, 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: they've been granting those, and what we have seen is 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: a massive increase in the amount of oil that's been 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: coming out of Iran and going into the world market. Now, 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: what they've done under the Trump administration try and squeeze 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: that down. Because there had been countries like Korea, South 108 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: Korea and others that were very dependent on Iranian oil, 109 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: they allowed these these licenses to be issued so that 110 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: they could have a certain amount of it flowing to 111 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: in this case South Korea, and then South Korea was 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: paying for it in their local their their local currencies 113 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: and it was staying in the bank. And what what 114 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: happened Treasury has expanded those licenses. Now, as you can 115 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: imagine the South Korean this is a this is a true, 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: uh true example. The South Koreans were a bit nervous 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: about having all this money, and because our law here 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: in the United States says if anything bad happens with 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: that cash, you are held responsible. South Korean Bank, so 120 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: they they were very eager to get it out of 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: their banking system. And what happened is it was transferred 122 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: to a bank in Oman, and so there's ten billion 123 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: dollars sitting in a I'm sorry in this case, I 124 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: think it was Katar Katari Bank. That had been oil 125 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: money that's been going out. Now, what else has been 126 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: going on parallel is Iran has been kind of basically 127 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: sneaking the oil out. They've been using something called a 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: ghost fleet, which is all these oil tankers that are 129 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: flagged in one particular country. And there's been a massive 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: number of them that have been flagged in Panama who 131 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: then either change flags, or they never really put up 132 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: their flag, or they stop using their internationally required transponder 133 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: to keep track of where they are, and they start illicitly, 134 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: illegally moving this oil into mostly China now and along 135 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: the way they're going to these mini refineries they call 136 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: them teapot refineries where they're taking the crude oil and 137 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: they're starting to refine it and then they bring it 138 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: all the way and mostly to China. So here we've 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: got China is utilizing this Iranian oil. We know that 140 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: they've got a number of relationships that are still active 141 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: and involved, and we've got the Biden administration basically turning 142 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: a blind eye. They know about this ghost fleet, they're 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: not doing anything about it. They know that the banking 144 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: system has been abused, yet they still continue to issue 145 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: these licenses and we're trying to stop that. 146 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, they knew about this attack coming. 147 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we had a seventy two hour warning of 148 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: Iran going on, that they were going to attack. And 149 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: you say, I think people need to understand the reason 150 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: you say unprecedented is in the past, we've seen Iranian 151 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: proxies go after Israel, but this is the first time 152 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: they've said, hey, we're attacking. And the funny thing to 153 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: me is you've got Christopher Ray out there warning that 154 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: we are in the most danger we've ever seen. We've 155 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: got all of these red flags. There's concerns from all 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: of these countries. You talked about China, there's concerns from China, Russia, Iran, 157 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: all of these different countries we have concerns about, and 158 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: yet they're openly saying they're coming after us. I mean, 159 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: if you go to X, this is what blows my mind. 160 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: If you go to X right now and you look 161 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: up what they call the Supreme Leader of Iran and 162 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: I would say, the Ultimate murderous Dictator of Iran his 163 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Twitter account, his ex account, he's regularly tweeting out that 164 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: he's coming after Israel, that he's coming after anybody who 165 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: is a Zionist. He's going to take all these Zionist 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: regimes down. He is making these threats openly. We're like, 167 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: are we really having to interview the FBI director to 168 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: know this? You can literally go to X. There's not 169 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: even shy. They're not worried about Joe Biden's don't no. 170 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: That is absolutely correct. And you know, by the way, 171 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: the United States falls into that same category, that zionist 172 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: category for them, these are not our friends, these are 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: not people who we should be welcoming to the world stage. 174 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: Yet this administration is doing that. I have a theory 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: on that. It seems to me out here in DC. 176 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: Democrats have so lashed themselves to this notion that somehow 177 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: Iran is pivotal and is like the tent pole that 178 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: is going to hold up the Middle East. And it 179 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: goes back to the Obama administration's nuclear Iran nuclear deal 180 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: and agreement. And they are so invested into this. I mean, 181 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: everybody's got to remember there was billions of dollars in 182 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: cash literally dumped off of an air plane onto the 183 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: tarmac in Tehran. And oh, by the way, the US 184 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: law said, you can't use US currency. So what did 185 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: our what did our treasury do at the time. It 186 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: converted it for them into euros and Swiss francs, all right, 187 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: so that they could technically get around it. That certainly 188 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 3: was not the spirit of the law. And that's the 189 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: kind of of attitude that we saw in the Obama administration. 190 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: It's carried over into the Biden administration. Why because frankly, 191 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: are a bunch of the same people, and you know 192 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Bob Gates, who happened to be Barack Obama's Secretary of 193 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: Defense and nailed it when he said that Joe Biden, 194 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: Jake Sullivan, and Anthony Blink and our secretary of State 195 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 3: have been at the center and wrong on every major 196 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: foreign policy issue for decades, and these are now the 197 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: people who are directing our foreign policy. 198 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 199 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You know, it's ironic that we 200 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: hear about President Carter as being the worst president in 201 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: American history, and yet it was really Iran that was 202 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: a problem for him too. He had all of those 203 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: hostages taken. You saw Reagan come out and save those people. 204 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: We have a similar situation in Joe Biden. I would 205 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: say he has overtaken Jimmy Carter as the worst president 206 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: in the history of the United States and his connection 207 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: to a terrorist nation. The questions people are asking is 208 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: why didn't he do something in those seventy two hours 209 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: to strike Iran and say you're not going to come 210 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: after Israel, we are going to defend Israel. And why 211 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: is he telling Israel to back off right now? Is 212 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: this really just a situation where he's so afraid of 213 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: losing power because he sees what's happening. Look at the 214 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: Golden gate Bridge last week. Look at oh Hair Airport, 215 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: You've got all these protesters. Look at our state of Michigan. 216 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: You had one hundred thousand uncommitted voters come out and 217 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: say to Joe Biden, we don't like you. Is this 218 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: Iran thing because he's afraid of power or does it 219 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: go deeper? 220 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: I think there absolutely is an element of the political 221 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: in this. You know, the progressive hard left is not 222 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: just anti Israel. They really are truly pro Iran. And 223 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: I mean we've seen that in various protests, you know, 224 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: hands off Iran. We've had people who have been voting. 225 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: In fact, today we voted on a resolution condemning Iran 226 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: and the attack on Israel. And there was I believe 227 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: it was fifteen or sixteen of the basically squad and 228 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: squad adjacent folks who voted against it. And the interesting 229 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: thing was I had a constituent on the floor. So 230 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: here's what we can do is we can take we 231 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: can take kids that are under twelve onto the U 232 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: onto the floor of the US House. And happened to 233 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: have a young man from from Holland who who was 234 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: along and we had him on the floor and he's 235 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: looking up at this at the board and he says, so, 236 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: why are there only a couple of few people voting no? 237 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: And so I explained, well, you know, they believe differently. 238 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be as neutral and you know, I'm 239 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: not trying to embitter the kid at twelve, but like. 240 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: Me, who's like, remember Hillary Scolton left you? Yeah, okay, yes, 241 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: give your credit for that. 242 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: But then he asked, well, what is what is this? 243 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: And I explained to him what it was, and this 244 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: kid looks at me and he like literally goes really. 245 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, even at twelve, he gets it. 246 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: Yes, And a twelve year old is getting it still 247 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: in the world, can Jamal Bowman and Omar and Talib 248 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: and AOC and and all the others not understand this? 249 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: Hank Johnson, well, Henk Johnson will think Iran might tip over. 250 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: If we you know, well, and Jamal, I mean he's 251 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: not even sure what a fire, Yeah, what door to 252 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: go alarm is? So yeah, I mean some of these people, 253 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's just education, they aren't really aware. 254 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, can be a great optimistic I agree, Yeah, 255 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm joking. I'm joking, But I mean, look, we have 256 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Rashida to Lee right here in Michigan who refuses to 257 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: condemn any of these acts. That's the thing that I 258 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: think is the most disturbing is Hamas is Iran when 259 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: they won't come out and say these are actually heinous acts. 260 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about going to Iran. I couldn't 261 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: go to Iran as a woman, I couldn't go to Iran. 262 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: These people that are defending these terrorist nations, who are 263 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: in the LGBTQ community, you're just like me, you. 264 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: Can't go there. 265 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: These are not countries that are safe for people to 266 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: go to, and there's a reason we're not going there. 267 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always amazing seeing these LGBTQ plus plus for 268 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: Gaza signs. It's like, yeah, if you went to Gaza, 269 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: guess what, you'd get stoned? Right, So you know, and 270 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: that has happened, like literally physical harm has come to 271 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: people of that persuasion, and you know, look, they have 272 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: a very different mentality. I mean, this is Ilhan Omar's 273 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: famous well on nine to eleven, some people did things right, 274 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: that's called terrorism. 275 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: And this is what is so bothersome to me about 276 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. We have Americans who were taken hostage. 277 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: This was not just an attack on Israel. This was 278 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: an attack on everyone. And especially knowing that we have 279 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Americans that were taken hostage, and I've never heard him 280 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: say their names. 281 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and the amazing thing is to me, is 282 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: he now it has the equivalent of basically during World 283 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: War Two, Franklin Roosevelt going to Churchill, Hey, you know, 284 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: you really need to stop this bombing of dress didn't thing, 285 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, Uh, there, there's there's there's some things that 286 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: are going on that we don't like, right, I mean, 287 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: just second guessing of an ally like that. They've got 288 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: to figure out what the response is. Uh. And and look, 289 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: I talked to people on a regular basis who are 290 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: in in Jerusalem and in Israel, and uh, you know, 291 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: they're hearing the jets every night, They're hearing the alarms 292 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: and the sirums that are going off. They know that 293 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: this is still an active war zone with what's going 294 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: on not just in Gaza, but in the in their 295 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: country as well, in in in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv 296 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: and in the areas outside of that. I was talking 297 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: to one one young man who was in the northern 298 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: part near the Sea of Galilee about a week ago, 299 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: and he said they were up on a on a 300 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: hillside and they literally witnessed an explosion that happened, Uh, 301 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: not that far away, so I felt, you know, you 302 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: could feel the wave. And so I mean, this is 303 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 3: this is a real firing war that Israel is in 304 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: yet and everybody in the administration and that are peacefully 305 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: demonstrating are trying to somehow portray that only Israel is 306 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: the aggressor and that they just if they just simply stopped, 307 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: then everything would just be returned back to normal. Well 308 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: that's not the case. 309 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: What about Okay, so you're you're no US financing for 310 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: Iran Act? 311 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: What happens next with this? 312 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well it passed the package and actually this was interesting. 313 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: So we had leadership within the committee when I had 314 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: first introduced it, and we passed it last fall last November. Uh, 315 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: Maxine Waters and others on the committee actually fought against it. 316 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: We passed it with bipartisan support out of committee. It's 317 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: on the floor. She and Democrat leadership and the Treasury 318 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 3: Department all lobbied against it. And I went and talked 319 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 3: to some of my Democrat colleagues who I've had some 320 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: relationships with and we've we've worked on some other things together, 321 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: and what they were telling me about how active Treasury 322 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: was in trying to dissuade them, it was really stunning, frankly. 323 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: But here's the good news. We still got two hundred 324 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: and ninety four votes against one hundred and five opposed 325 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: to it, So one hundred and five Democrats voted against it, 326 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: but we got the remainder of them to actually vote 327 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: for it, so we had over two thirds of the 328 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: House of Representatives pass it. So that's a strong case 329 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 3: that we're trying to make to the Senate. We're going 330 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: to find out. We're trying to get that included in 331 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: any sort of package that might include aid to Israel. 332 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: We would like to get this language in there so 333 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: that it locks it down. And what specifically the language 334 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: of the bill says is you don't have access to 335 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: the US financial system, and we talked a little bit 336 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: about what that looks like before. But you also Iran 337 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: are no longer eligible for the World Bank Projects or 338 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, and in two thousand 339 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: and one, the IMF granted something that's called special drawing 340 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: rights that countries have. They granted around five billion dollars 341 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: out of this special drawing rights program. And guess what, 342 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: our Treasury Department, the Biden administration didn't object. 343 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: So why is the Treasury Department so sensitive to Iran? 344 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: We've been trying to figure that out, and again I 345 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: kind of go back to I think this is because 346 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: the administration is so tied to this Iranian nuclear deal 347 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: that had been cut under Obama. And this is why 348 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: they all collectively lost their minds when President Trump rescinded 349 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: it and Iran went back to producing the fissile material. Well, 350 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: guess what they had never really stopped we found out later, right, 351 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: And so why they are so tied to this is 352 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: just baffling sometimes. But we're hoping that we're going to 353 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: be able to get it into a package that passes 354 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: the House here again it would be basically the second time, 355 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: and that that it can get some action over on 356 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: the Senate. 357 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: M It's interesting. 358 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: That's like bureaucracy at its finest. You have the Treasury 359 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: who is trying to manipulate the electeds. 360 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was interesting. I was on with Stuart 361 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: Varney on Fox Business. I guess yesterday or maybe the 362 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: day before, and he looked. He looked at me after 363 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm describing this, he goes, you're fighting the deep state, 364 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: aren't you. I mean, this is like literally the deep state. 365 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, it is. I mean, this is 366 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: this is what we battle against every single day when 367 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: we when we're going up against these regulators and these 368 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: and these diplomats that they believe that they know better 369 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: and want to shape the world in their vision. Well, 370 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: guess what. Congress gets elected by the people and and 371 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: we get to have a say in this and they 372 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: don't like that. So that's absolutely what we're fighting. 373 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what for people who always hear that term 374 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: and don't really get it, this is it. It's those 375 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: career people. They weren't elected. They're in there and they're 376 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: manipulating one way or another, and it is messing up 377 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: the system. That's what That's what Trump said he would 378 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: take care of. Couldn't do that all in his first term. 379 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: I believe that's why they're so scared a second term. 380 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I mean he was. He was able to 381 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: come in and if you talk to anybody that was 382 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: involved in the State Department for example that there was 383 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: so much pushback against this administration, against Trump administration. You know, 384 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: Reagan tried to do this, and there was a guy 385 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: named Don Reagan who worked for him, and he wrote 386 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: a book called Reagan's Terrible Swift Sword, and it was 387 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: basically recounting his efforts and trying to go into the 388 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: bureaucracy and and weed it out and make sure that 389 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: that it's actually following the directives of the administration rather 390 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: than what they think is right. And you know, it's 391 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: it's just kind of stunning. As we've seen a massive, 392 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: massive growth of government through COVID and all these other things, 393 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: it's just gotten more entrenched and so it's harder and 394 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: harder to weed out. They count on, frankly, the sort 395 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: of instability in the House and in the Senate. They 396 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: figure that they can sort of wait elected people out 397 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: and ultimately they'll they'll win, and so what we can't 398 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: let them do is just win. 399 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 400 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Historically, there's the argument of term limits, 401 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: no term limits, and at least when you have someone 402 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: who's elected, they can be unelected, and these people have 403 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: no term limits that the people that you never hear 404 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: of are the people that are really, really dangerous behind 405 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: the scenes. But I have to bring it up because 406 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: you brought up chaos and chaos in the House and 407 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: we are hearing that there is another motion to vacate 408 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: for Speaker Johnson now. And I'm confused by this because 409 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: I know Trump has been out there with the speaker. 410 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: And I will just say, I'm going to give you 411 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of like the behind the scenes. I 412 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: was talking to a big Republican supporter in the state 413 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: of Michigan, and I was talking to him about what 414 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: he was going to do coming up in these elections, 415 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: and he said, you got to understand, I am talking 416 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: to other big Republican supporters and we are sick and. 417 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: Tired of this chaos. 418 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: People are mad that they are seeing this, and I 419 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: don't get it because so we're hearing today that there 420 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: have been people behind the scenes saying, get rid of 421 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: this one person rule, get this out of it, and 422 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: put it into a bill that you're going to get 423 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: rid of this. Why should this rule be there because 424 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: we don't elect I don't elect you to go in 425 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: there and tell everybody what to do and be alone 426 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: as a dictator. I mean, that's not what Congress is for. 427 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: It's not for one person to be able to make 428 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: a decision like this. 429 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: Well, Tutor, we've we've fallen into and can't seem to 430 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: get out of a circular firing squad mentality. And look, 431 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 3: we've seen it with state parties, We've seen it with 432 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: local county parties. We've seen it with the House and 433 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: the national parties. There's people more interested in fighting internally 434 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 3: than they are about fighting our political opponents. And you know, 435 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: whether you're in a county party or whether you're at 436 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: the national party, or whether you're in the US House 437 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: or the US Senate, you have to realize who are 438 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: the philosophical enemies of our ideas? And you know, the 439 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: idea of what the proper size role and scope of 440 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: government isn't an internal debate. I mean we might have 441 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: some fractional disagreements about what needs to be happening with 442 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: whether it's a spending bill or whether it's you know, 443 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: an education policy or you know, something along those lines, 444 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: you know, banking regulation. It's the other side that has 445 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: so radically departed from any sort of semblance of reality 446 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 3: to how the world works. And yet here we are 447 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 3: with people more interested in purifying the ranks. I mean, 448 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: they it feels like they would rather be one hundred 449 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: percent right and lose than eighty percent right and win. 450 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't I don't know about your listeners, 451 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: and and but I know enough about you that I 452 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 3: think you think like I do. Ronald Reagan had it right. 453 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: You know, if you agree with me on eighty percent, 454 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: we're friends and allies. Now I might go back and 455 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: try to get the rest of you know, agreement. But 456 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: you know, we haven't been able to take any of 457 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: this incrementalism in which the Democrats are brilliant at doing 458 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: this is they boil so many frogs slowly. It's just 459 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: it's stunning, right, right, how they do that. And you know, 460 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: we don't seem to have the patience for that. And 461 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: what's what ultimately happens is because we can't hold together, 462 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: we end up losing ground even further than we would 463 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: if we had just stuck together and taken less than 464 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: perfect I think. 465 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: That there has to be a discussion that there's a 466 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: reality to that position. When you have a when you 467 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: have Democrats in the majority in the Senate and a 468 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: Democrat president. It's not as though Speaker Johnson can just 469 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: he has to negotiate. I mean, life is about negotiation. 470 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: How can we not say, well, let's see how he 471 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: does when we have a President Trump in office, and 472 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: let's fight for that, because right now this kind of 473 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: stuff is harming our chances of having a President Trump 474 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: in office. 475 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: It is, and we have heard that behind the scenes 476 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: from the Trump organization and people involved in that, which 477 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: is why I believe you saw the President hosting him 478 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: down at mar Lago and holding this press conference with 479 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: him and talking about him positively. You know, look, at 480 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 3: the end of the day, Mike and I meaning Mike 481 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: Johnson and I may not agree on everything, but I've 482 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: got to have a leader who's going to be able 483 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: to walk into a room with Chuck Schumer, the Biden 484 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: administration and frankly Mitch McConnell and know that he's got 485 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: standing to say if he's going to do something and 486 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: can do something and negotiate and withhold something, that he 487 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: actually is able to do it. And this sort of 488 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: sort of democlets that hangs over his head is one 489 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: that I think is going to be hanging over every 490 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: speaker's head unless we do something like look at changing 491 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: it now. This motion to vacate rule was something that 492 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: we had had in place for not quite two hundred years, 493 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: but for a very very long time in the House 494 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: of Representatives. And how I describe it as like all 495 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: of us had the launch code. We all had the 496 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: nuclear launch code. We were just smart enough not to 497 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: use it. The person who realized that she was in 498 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 3: real trouble was Nancy Pelosi, and she was afraid some 499 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: of the squad members were going to use it. And 500 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: that's when they changed the rule. And I believe it 501 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: was a twenty five vote threshold. A part of the 502 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: negotiations that Kevin McCarthy had was this reverting back to 503 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: a one vote or one call for the motion to vacate. 504 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: A lot of people believe it was a personal grudge 505 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: that that brought it about. But nonetheless, here we are 506 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: uh with with this rearing its head again. And I 507 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: can tell you if if we were to go through 508 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: that again, forget it. Just we have we have no 509 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: standing to negotiate. We might as well pack it up, 510 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: go home and just wait for the election. And there's 511 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: some people who think that might be a good strategy, 512 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: it's not. Uh, it's that is not ultimately going to 513 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: help us and our case when we have to go 514 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: in front of the voters in a couple of months. 515 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: It's it's not. 516 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, it's a combination of voters 517 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: who are fed up and voters who are also big 518 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: supporters of the party who are saying I'm going to 519 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to hold back my support. And for people 520 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: out there who say, well, just go out and knock 521 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: doors with the grassroots, it takes all of us. It 522 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: takes every one of us. We've got to get we have. 523 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: We can't leave a vote on the table. You just 524 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: can't walk away from anybody right now. We've got to 525 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: make sure we are going up against a machine, a 526 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: well oiled machine, and these kinds of things. 527 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Right now, get through this election. If you want to do. 528 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: Something afterward, if you think you can test things afterward, 529 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: let's just get through this election. And I know you 530 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: know that I'm a little luxury today because I'm looking 531 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: at this and I'm going, oh gosh. And we're calling 532 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: people and saying, hey, come and help in Michigan, and 533 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: they're going, we don't like what it's going on in Washington, 534 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: and so it is incredibly frustrating. Before I let you go, 535 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: we talked a lot about Israel, and I just want 536 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: to give our listeners an opportunity to be able to 537 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: help out over there, because I know that our listeners 538 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: are very loving and very caring, and I just want 539 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: them to hear what is possible, because it's been over 540 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: six months since the brutal attack by Hamas on our 541 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: brothers and sisters in Israel, and since then, the attacks 542 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: on Israel have increased, with Ran and its proxies, as 543 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: we were just talking about there launching hundreds of drones 544 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: and missiles, and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews 545 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: is on the ground now addressing all of those urgent needs. 546 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm partnering with IFCJ today. 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Bill, 564 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: I know that you've been incredibly supportive. I know you've 565 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: had family members over there. I know you know what 566 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: it's like. 567 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean when you talk about these kids over there 568 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: seeing this. 569 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: Bombing happening, I think it's something that in America we 570 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: just take for granted, we never have to deal with that. 571 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: For those guys over there, it's terrifying. 572 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, and it's a reality of life for 573 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: them that we don't really have an understanding. You know. 574 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: For you and I nine to eleven is seared into 575 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: our minds, our kids. You know, my oldest barely remembers it, 576 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: and your girls are too young. I mean, most of 577 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: my staff doesn't really remember actually watching it and what 578 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: it was like and what we're seeing. This toxic combination 579 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: of places like Iran and the funding that's going on 580 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: and an open porous border the way that it is 581 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: is both not just on the southern border, but also 582 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: on the northern border. We got issues there. That's going 583 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: to have to be another podcast. We'll have it to 584 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: talk about that our country is in danger, and Western 585 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: Europe is in danger, and we've got to make sure 586 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: that our country doesn't have a repeat of that. And 587 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: you know that's going to take vigilance. So and elections. 588 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 3: Elections do matter, and we've got to make sure that 589 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: we have a change and at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. 590 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, we're going to keep fighting the 591 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: best that we possibly can and make sure that our 592 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: allies have the resources that they need. 593 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for fighting. We appreciate it, and thanks 594 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: for coming on today. Congressman Bill Heusingott, thank you so much. 595 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Tutor, and thank you all for joining 596 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others. 597 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: Check out tutordixonpodcast dot com and subscribe, or go to 598 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 599 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: And join us next time. Have a blessed day.