WEBVTT - SHARP NFL BETS Week 10: Ravens-Vikings, Rams-49ers, Eagles-Packers, Steelers-Chargers, Patriots-Bucs and more 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.880 Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock That. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.520 We are part of the Volume podcast Network. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.159 This is the show that makes the squares sharper and 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.080 makes the wise guys pay attention. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:13.560 I am Chad Milman, I am. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.040 Joined as always buy my BFF, my companion, Mike Campadre, 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.120 my co host, Professional Better Sigmon Hunter. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.200 Hello, Simon, Chad. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:23.920 Are we doing? 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.120 I don't feel like I got English enough on that. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.240 Heedo soymon A's beat. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.160 There you go, dude. There is so much. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.440 News impacting the lines since the trade deadline, and there's 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:42.239 also just been general massive line movement overall since we 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.240 did our show on Tuesday. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.960 Freaking wild, absolutely freaking wild. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.800 I don't know if you've got any deep deep thoughts 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.960 on that. Let's hold them because I want to hear 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.440 what the wise guys have to say in sharp calls. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.560 This is our Thursday, Week ten episode. We're going to 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.040 narrow down the options on the five picks we like 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.920 the best. We're going to inch our way closer. Subscribe 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.280 to Sharper Square on YouTube, Apple Pods, Spotify. Let's get 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.120 into this thing. Every week, you know what we do. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:14.720 We are going to hear from Simon's fellow professional betters 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.080 on all the conversations we had on Tuesday, they've always 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:22.520 got opinions. I have no doubt they'll have a lot 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.119 of things to say about what we discussed. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.680 Let's get too sharp, calls. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.600 Hal answer, it's foot all. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:39.440 Right, rain range, telephone range. Somebody said, maybe what you do. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.960 Man, Yeah, let's start where you guys are on the 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.480 opposite of us, which you know I always always love 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.360 here on the other side. And the one that really 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.760 jumped out was the Chargers. Hearing a lot of love 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.160 from the pros on the Chargers, maybe we're suckers. I 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.080 just can't get over again. Plus three here. I just 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.840 that's gonna be a fun one to break down. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.840 Some Yeah we're gonna that's the Chargers Steelers game, and yeah, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.120 we're definitely gonna discuss that one. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:03.520 So good. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.520 But yeah, a lot of pros love the Chargers, Big Chargers, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.200 Chargers spot. I guess let's start with the Rams as well. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.160 A lot of pros I talked to Tuck Rams money 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.400 shocked by that one. Commanders was a big talking point 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.240 this week. I definitely remember us, or at least myself. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.960 I like Detroit. I still do. I'm happy they're betting 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.200 it down. That's a fun one. We can break down 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.280 some more. Patriots, couldn't believe it. A lot of love 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.080 from the Patriots. I once again, I'm dug in. I like, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.600 really like Tampa. Starting to love it even more as 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.680 I see the injury report and what guys are healthy 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.440 for this Tampa team. So pretty interesting how much love 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.640 there is for this Patriots side and the sides we 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.440 agree on. Chad, we already knew Jets that was gonna 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.880 be a pro side. Yeah, it's it's fluctuated the numbers 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.000 since the trade deadline. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.560 That's gonna be a fun one to break down. Miami. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.239 Tons of love from the pros. Tons of love for Houston. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.560 I'm going against the pros here. I didn't even mention 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.280 it the Raiders. Talk to some pros that really like 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.760 that one again. Another game I'll hold steady fast and 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.040 I really like Denver in that spot and the last 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.400 one that shocked me. Tons of love for the pros 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.640 on this Bear side game that I feel like we 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:15.840 were kind of on the other side of it. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:16.880 Yeah, talk that we. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.520 Kind of like the Giants. I'll give you some reasons 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.040 why they liked that Bear side. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.280 If we break that game down later. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.960 Oh, we're going to break it down because it's one 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.320 of the games that I was thinking about, and it 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.520 was in contention for brass Balls because that number has 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.040 moved quite a bit and I haven't been able to 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.200 figure out why other than professional money coming in on 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.920 the Bears in this spot. So you also mentioned another 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.120 game that I've been getting more and more nervous about, 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.680 which is The Box, because I cannot figure out how 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.440 that line hasn't moved from two and a half to 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.320 three yet. So some pushback from the Wise guys is 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.240 probably why. But first let's get to that Raiders Broncos game. Obviously, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.040 it's our Thursday show, so a lot of people might 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.920 not hear. I might not hear the show until after 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:05.960 the game. You're getting some feedback from the professionals on 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.320 the Raiders' side. We both love Denver and like this 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.960 wasn't even a question. We actually were debating if Denver 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.000 was going to be Simon Says or Chat's choice because 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.400 we both liked it so much. We liked it at 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.640 eight and a half, it's now at nine and a half. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.919 I don't know what the Wise guys are seeing in 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.680 the Raiders. You can't take anything from that game against 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.719 a Jags team that lost their best pass rusher because 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.600 he tried to punch a guy in the face, and 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.760 you're still playing against a not very good defense. Brock 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.719 Bauers was wide open every game. I mean, every play. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.520 Isn't all this stuff that Broncos can account for in 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.719 a short week in a game the Raiders went to 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.280 a full overtime and they're not a very good team. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.080 I don't get it. I don't get it. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.680 Yeah, I think mister White, guys I talked to, they 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.839 just don't trust, you know, a quarter about like bow 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.960 Knicks to be this big of a favorite in a 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.080 divisional game, especially if you look at the history of Denver, right, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.240 And this is the hardest part too, because to me, 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.120 it's a lot of it's irrelevant the history of Denver 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.400 before Champagne took over. But they have not won against 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.720 a divisional opponent in our primetime game since like twenty seventeen. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.839 Okay, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.360 That was my exact pushback. It's like, well, if you 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.000 look at those teams from those years, they were bad, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.599 They had bad coaches, they just weren't good, and they've 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.560 been in a really competitive, tough division all throughout those years. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:34.440 So that makes sense though why they'd push back because 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.280 it is technically a huge number in a divisional game in. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.400 A short week. But I already gave it out. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.599 I gave out that overtime stat, which to me is 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.520 just makes so much sense, and it was actually wrong. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.200 I thought it was three and twenty three. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.679 I forgot last year the Bears and this exact spot 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.840 actually won uncovered or covered last year against the Lions. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.200 Remember that insanely fluky game on Thanksgiving. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.960 Yeah, dude, where the Lions should have been up seventy 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.360 two to nothing in the first half, and. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.679 Then even then they're up twenty one nothing or twenty 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.640 one to three the first half, and somehow Bears came 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.440 back and covered really late. So you know, I'm not 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.640 gonna get pushed off this one. I get where they're 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.200 coming from, and I'm with you. I just think defensively, schematically, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.640 they can take away bowers and then what are you 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.559 going to do as an offense, Like, I know they're 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.440 trying to establish a run, but it just now has 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.200 been working. Chip Kelly whatever he's going to do. It's 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.680 not been working with that run game and Gino. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.160 I still think. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.440 Even in that game, as good as he looked, he 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.279 still had so many horrible throws, so much questionable moving 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.599 with his feet, and it's just a really tough spot. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.440 Offs We talked about it being on a short week 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.520 here on the road against the Denver team that you know, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:42.919 we put it as one of the best teams in 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.080 all football, like we're respecting that way defensively, especially, so 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.120 I know it's a lot to swallow bow nixt year, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:50.320 but I can't get away from it. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:50.480 Cha. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.560 I really like it, And I don't know, maybe we 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.480 do put in the contest multiple figure it out because 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.200 there are five games I like this week. But people 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.120 know I really love this game. I love this matchup. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.280 First half, full game, Debra, I'm. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:01.720 All over it. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:07.640 Yeah, same, same, same, not shame, same. Maybe we'll be shamed, 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.000 but I don't think so. This was one like coming 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.480 out of my one in four malaise. This is one 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.920 of the games that made me start to feel like, Okay, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.760 I can see it, I have clarity, I'm feeling confident, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:22.560 felt good about this one. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.280 God we need it. We cannot start the week O one. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.920 Dude, we freaking need it, as Bob Scuccy, our old 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.720 friend Bob Scuccy like to say, we need this for 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:39.200 our lungs. We are underwater, all right, New York Giants 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.680 at the Chicago Bears. This line, it. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.720 Blew up over the last forty eight hours. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.120 It got up to four and a half. It's down 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:47.960 to four at hard Rock. We've talked about hard Rock. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.960 It's a sharp book, so that gives communication of what 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.240 the wise guys think when this line got to four 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:53.760 and a half. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.920 But they also love the Bears at three. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.400 They love the Bears at three and a half, and 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.320 some pushed it up too, from four to four and 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:05.360 a half. I started to see the Giants and I 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:10.000 talked about this on Tuesday. The Bears run defense is 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.200 so bad, and I mean not their run defense. Their 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.040 past defense is so bad, and their secondary is so bad. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.880 You could see how Jackson Dark could have a lot 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.200 of success against the Bears and a defense that, by 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.800 the way, has not been able to hold anybody under 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:33.439 a twenty five point game. I'm exaggerating, but that's basically 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:38.280 the line of demarcation here. Unless they were committing forcing 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.800 a bunch of turnovers. They won with the Commander. They 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.839 went against the Commanders because of a bad handoff that 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.080 got them to win. In that primetime game against Jayden Daniels, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.840 they beat the Cowboys because of a bunch of turnovers. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.800 They beat the Saints, which still came close to covering 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.600 because of a bunch of turnovers. Every other game they've had, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.280 it's going down to the wire and it's close, and 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.880 they're winning because there's something fluky happening, and because Ben 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.560 Johnson is a miracle, not because this team is very good. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.880 So four and a half just feels like too many points. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:14.920 I'm surprised to hear the wise guys say they're liking 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:15.960 the Bears here. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.440 Yeah, I'm probably gonna have to join on me at Chad, 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.040 I if you really don't like a side here, I 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.160 think there is still a value on the total. Total 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.480 is down to forty six and a half, and all 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.880 the reason behind this movement, to me is because of 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.160 the weather. People like, we're tracking models, you're getting some info, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.840 and right now a bunch of different models are predicting 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.439 rain or snow and very cold temperature in this matchup, 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.560 which to me favors this Bears team that wants to 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.880 run the ball heavily and has one of the best 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.920 run schemes off football against the defense that is really bad. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.800 Giants are bottom thirty in the league. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.360 They're they're the worst, are they now? 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.880 Yeah, so the Bears. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.880 Like, you're right, I'm just like, obviously, I have a 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.040 strong opinion about the Bears. Their run offense has been 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.880 so good and that is a major major factor against 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.200 this team. And the weather, you're right, could be it 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.280 just might play into the way Ben Johnson wants to 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.120 play this game. It'll give an excuse not to let 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.280 Kayleb Williams throw the ball. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.720 Yeah, and again it's you can take these positions and 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.080 get out of it Sunday if this all blows over 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.680 and these models wire turarly off, but you know they're 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.720 shooting pretty accurate. Two three days out here, the line 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.679 has come down from forty nine to forty six and 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.400 a half. They'll let you know. The books are getting 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.920 really really respected money heavily towards the under. But you're 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.680 looking at the splits right now, it's still mostly towards 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.199 the over. I mean, the tickets and the money say 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.120 towards the over. At the public obviously, like we talked about, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.559 they're going to be on this Bears team, Like, no 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.920 one's going to be trusting the Giants right now, like 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.440 what we talked about, right That's why we kind of 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.360 like this the Ghiants team. This feels like a good 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.760 spot for them, playing against an inflated Bears team that 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.640 got really lucky. They covered all those for those people 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.080 last week, and those people are coming back now hitting 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:03.760 the Bears again. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.520 So I'm like you, I wanted to be on the Giants. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.320 Were shocked to hear the professionals were taking these heavy 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.080 positions on the Bears, and now you dive into it 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.240 and see what the weather could be like, this just 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.160 feels are a great spot for the Bear scene. Compared 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.600 to a young rookie quarterback in Jackson Dart who already 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.079 has fumbling issues now playing in bad element weather, I 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.319 don't know. I just I can't get there the Giants 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.120 if I know that's scenario. So yeah, just if you 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.600 wantn't want to take as side here, I still think 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:29.640 the underreas value on it. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.800 I hate the Bears in this spot. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.400 I know it's such a Giants number, it's brutal. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.280 Such a giant's number. I'm gonna wait. I'm just waiting. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.440 I don't think it's going to get to five. But 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.760 I'd rather just see the weather and know what I'm 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.520 betting into on Sunday. I don't have to bet this one, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:55.920 So for me, I'm gonna wait. New Orleans at Carolina. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.920 Carolina is a five point favorite. Five and a half, 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.800 move to five, still five at hard Rock, five and 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.280 a half in a lot of other places. I want 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.840 to say play the number, but the truth is, like 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.920 this number home or road Division dogs of five plus points, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.720 It's basically a fifty to fifty proposition. So if you're 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.720 looking at it from that point of view, there is 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:34.160 no real edge in terms of historical precedent. Caroline at 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.560 home is great. The Russian game is great. They're really confident. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.720 The Saints are not. They might not have an NFL 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:42.760 quarterback on their roster. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.920 Yeah, the number just spooks you. It sews me too. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.760 I'll probably end up just taking a large position with 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.520 Carolina on the money line and just avoid this game 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.679 if I can, because it does feel like it's mispriced, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.640 and this is a great spot for this Carolina team 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.960 at home again, it's what we just said is just 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.920 a non existent offensive quarterback and could he show up 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.400 here and have a game of his life. Yeah, we've 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.400 seen that happen all the time. Right, these guys pop 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.760 for one game. But just as a betting man, I 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.040 love this number and working against the Panthers just the 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.760 issue of them being a favorite, right, I think they're 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.079 on a crazy streak. They're zero to ten as a favorite. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.920 And that's a lot of bright young too. I think 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.600 he has three or four games mixed in there. So yeah, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.280 I'm a game. I'm not basterly having into. It's just 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.080 I found other games this week I like a lot more. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.240 But still on Carolina side, still taking the number at 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.000 minus five, but much more comfortable putting their money line 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.080 in it. Wow, it's up to the minus two forty five, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.400 so people been hitting it. It was rest and yeah 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.520 it's been getting hit, this money line on the Panthers. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.880 You know a game that we are into and I 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.640 hate to say it, and maybe it's the sickos in us. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:01.520 The Cleveland Browns are visiting the New York Jets on Tuesday. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.600 When we started the show, the Jets I think were 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.800 two point favorites. It had gone up from one and 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.760 a half to two. During the show, the news broke 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.720 that Sauce Gardner was being traded to the Indianapolis Colts 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.360 for multiple picks. Later in the day, it was announced 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.480 that the Jets were trading Quinn Williams, their star defensive tackle, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.080 to the Dallas Cowboys for multiple picks. Yesterday, it was 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.440 announced that Quincy Williams, the Jets starting linebacker Quinn's brother, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.520 All Pro in twenty twenty three, was being benched for 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:45.480 lack of performance. We still don't know who the quarterback 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.640 is going to be for the New York Jets. On Sunday, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.480 the New York Jets GM said that the Jets are 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.000 still trying to win. He knows how much those guys try. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.040 We are st trying to win this season. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:03.560 Quote. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.400 Maybe he and Aaron Glenn are not in the same page, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.400 because Aaron Glenn said yesterday, I said we would make 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:17.720 the fans proud. I didn't say it would be this season. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.920 That gives you a lot of confidence. Here's the problem. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.440 Here's the problem, Simon, You're ready. The line has moved 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.360 to Jets plus two at hard Rock plus two and 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:37.120 a half everywhere else and the fundamentals of this game 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:42.080 remained the same. It was never about the Jets defense. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.320 It's about the Jets offense against the Browns defense. Because 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.000 we have zero expectations at Dylan Gabriel, whether he's playing 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.400 Quinn Williams or Sat Gardner, whoever else is going to 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.600 be playing in those positions, is not an NFL quarterback. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.600 So we were betting when we liked the Jets the 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:03.160 other day against Dylan Gabriel. All why wouldn't we still 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.680 be betting against Dylan Gabriel. This is a massive move. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.720 Yeah, a game though I needed to be Justin Field's Honestly, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.680 I know it sounds stupid, but I like his matchup 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.320 a lot against this defensive front in the Cleveland and 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.600 Shockling his career. He does really well against these type 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.840 of defensive fronts when he plays a defensive front that's 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.920 you know, got a high sack rate about four percent. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.360 He's four and two against the spreading his career, which 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.000 again doesn't sound great if you look at Justin Field's career, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.440 It's probably the only positive ats Daddy has when. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.040 You really dive into it. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.320 He's just not a covering guy his whole career he's 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.120 just had a rough go of it, and looking at 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.320 this matchup, it really is kind of weird that the 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.520 public is so comfortable hammering this brown side even with 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.000 all the trades. Even before that we were talking on 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.840 our show, they were loving him then as a favorite, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.560 I mean as an underdog. Now they're really still loving 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.240 him as a as a favorite. And this to me is 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.880 going to come down tons of pros, I know, professional groups. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.320 When I come on the Jets, I mean again, I 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.960 get what we're doing it, but there I am also 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.840 a little weary of betting this one because we have 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.359 to remember these arghuman beings. How are they going to 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.000 respond to what just happened from their front office? Like 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.080 their front office basically just wave the white flag on 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.159 the season like they I agree with it too. I 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.479 mean some Jet fans are complaining. It's like, dude, you guys, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.679 that was like our dream scenario. You dump two guys 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.199 that I don't want to say they're being overpaid, but 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.080 just they're not going to help you get to where 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.400 you need to be in the next two to three years. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.960 You need to totally tear it down. So you know, Dallas, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.600 horrible trade. In my opinion, Colt's very questionable. But you know, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.679 for the Jets, I love the move. You're stocking up 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.119 in what should be really good drafts. Now to have 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.679 the front office to make the right picks, that's to 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.080 be determined. So just for this game chat, I like it. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.920 It's really about the number though, this to me is 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:58.200 going to come down if you can still get the 0:17:58.200 --> 0:17:59.600 plus two plus two and a half. You hear this, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:01.920 I would take the position on the Jets once it 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.160 gets blowed the two. I don't know how much I'm 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.920 gonna be invested in here until I know exactly who 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.399 the quarterback is going to be, and if that is 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.399 in fact justin fields, we can re re enter this 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.840 one on Sunday morning. Talk about putting in the contest, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.520 but you said it right now, I'm betting into the 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.399 two and a half without even knowing who the quarterback is. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.080 Yeah, I am as well. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:25.680 The flip side of the team sort of being frustrated 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:30.040 is you guys get a chance to prove themselves in 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:34.680 a wide open situation and put on tape for somebody 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.679 for next season how well they can play. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:38.720 I don't. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.280 I just I never buy the fact that guys are 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.960 going to stop competing. When you're a professional athlete getting paid, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.359 you want to stay in the league. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:48.159 This is your best chance to do it. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.320 There's gonna be a guy who's getting a chance to start, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:51.920 a cornerback who hasn't a chance to do that. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.719 Oh, I'm in Like on the like Breese Hall, Briesaw 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.399 had a foot out the door, was almost on the 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.120 Kansas City Chiefs. Kn't it wake up today? And he's 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.080 still on the Jets. That's got to be weird mentally, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.479 Like yeah, and I'm sure you'll get it back. He's 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.199 a professional. I just think of all of those snares 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.160 like that, the guys on this team, you know, you're 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.119 so close to being on a winning team. Obviously not everybody. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:14.960 I mean some guys went the Dallas. That's a that's 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.160 a tough trade, but you know, I just I thought 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.760 it was really interesting that they didn't move Brisoll because 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:23.760 they apparently wanted a third and then take a fourth 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.800 and it's like, what are you doing, Jets? 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.679 Just sell it all, man, you're trying to lose here 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:28.840 and Bristol. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.240 Again and some of it's back the Jets here. I 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.760 am so happy he's still on this team, they need 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.159 them offensively. He's by far their best weapon. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.119 Well look, the flip side is Brisall keeps showing how 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.560 good he is, and next year he just gets a 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.600 bigger deal from somebody. Yeah, so you know, so yeah, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.440 I hate to say it, but we're kind of on 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.120 the Jets Jacksonville at Houston. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:49.560 Houston. 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.280 Look, on Tuesday we talked about wanting to wait on 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.520 this game until Houston was an underdog. Houston is an underdog. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.600