1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaggs Drive Time with John Oser, Oser, Bryan 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: sextyston man Ky State of j Jangs Drive Time. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: It starts right now. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Welcome into drive Time June sixth Here at Jaguar Stadio. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Brian Sexton, John Oser, thank you for joining us. Of course, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: we had a little open OTA practice yesterday, so that 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: was enjoyable for us. And you know, we're kind of 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: winding down this OTA process as we get things going, 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 3: and I'm excited for training camp to start. I don't 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: want to look too too far ahead, but that's my big. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: Thing for many days. Have you kind of the hours 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: job I have not. 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: I'm not doing a full Christmas countdown, but I'm getting 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: pretty close. 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll get here when he gets here, and I'll 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: be fired up. Then I'm also fired up for the 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: time before that. But I get what Kay is saying. Yeah, 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: there's so much at this point. Once you've seen three 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: OTA practices and there'll be a few mini camp pratices 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: next week, Sure, who all be there. You've sort of 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: seen what you can glean and it's not that much. 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: So in terms of trying to analyze this team. 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely look forward to August. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: First second went over there on the field and pads. 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: I'm excited for the middle of Electric Center absolutely. I mean, 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: having been here for twenty nine years and watch this 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: building go up and then deteriorate and now put up 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: a fabulous facility like the one that he's about to 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: open next door. I know the coaches and players are 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: really excited to get in there, and it's mine. 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: Definitely turn that page. Let's go over some big things 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: right now. We'll do our big thing. Number one is 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: the to do list for Doug Peterson. He kind of 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: went over with us yesterday a little bit about the 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: roster and where he thinks the state of things are today. 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: You look at the big picture of things, I mean, 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: I like the fact that we've got some young secondary 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: guys that can work inside and outside. There's there's some 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: some valuable players you know there that could possibly help us. 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: I mean the depth at linebacker, depth a d line, 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: and we talked about the edge rush, you know, the 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: pass rush there, and you know, offensive line we got deeper. 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: This is one of the better top to bottom offensive 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 5: lines that we've had in a long time. You know, here, 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: receiver room looks good, running back room looks good. So 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: you know, right now, I would say everything looks great, 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: all right, ask me in about three months. 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: All looks good on paper. We'll have to see how 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: it turns out. Big thing number two is being the 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: one after the success that they had last season. They're 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: not going to sneak up on anybody. And Doug Peterson 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: said that it's really put the onus on him to 54 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: get his team prepared to be the hunted. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: That falls on me to make sure that they they 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: don't look past what we're what we're trying to get 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: accomplished today, and that's on me to make sure we 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: don't look down the road and last year's last year. 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: And you just have to keep reiterating the point, like 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: you know, I've said this in here before. It's you know, 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: it's a new team, it's a new season. You know, 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 5: we got to start over, and that's got to be 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 5: the mentality. You know, it's great what we did, but 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 5: we haven't done anything in twenty three you know, and 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: we haven't played a football game yet, so I got 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: a lot of work to do. But it falls on 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: me to make sure that they stay they stayed level 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 5: headed and grounded and keep working hard. 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Big thing number three is who who will be in 70 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: addition to this team. We saw Leonard Floyd signed with 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: the Bills yesterday, so discussions with Doug about when and 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: if and who they might be adding to this roster. 73 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: You can't just jump with the first thing you know 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: that's there. And obviously you know somebody has to fit 75 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: your roster and fit you know, your structure financially and 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: all of that. But you know there's gonna be guys 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: probably going into training camp. There's gonna be guys coming 78 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: out of training camp that will take a look at. 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 5: But you know those are all things for you know, 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: conversations for down the road. And we've been pleased with 81 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: the guys that are here and been working and you know, 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: we just got to get get them better and ready 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: to go. 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Doug not giving anything away there, but he's definitely working 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: on what he has here in camp or in OTA's 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: right now kind of focusing on that, and I guess 87 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: no rush right now. Right there's a lot of guys still. 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: Available well, and I think there's a lot of young 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: guys on this team that you want to get a 90 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: good look at. You start bringing veteran guys in here 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: before you give reps to some of these guys that 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: you have been coaching all offseason, you might be missing something, John. 93 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: And you know, when I look at the roster, I 94 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: don't I know they want a better pass rush this year. 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: But if none of those guys fit and they don't 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: end up here, you got some guys you can work with. 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: I don't look at the rash and go we if 98 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: they don't add this, I think they've got a good 99 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: group of players. And if they don't add anyone until 100 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: after cuts, that's not a problem. 101 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: I think people took what Doug and Trent said after 103 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: the draft and sort of made a mountain out of 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: a molehill. 105 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: If you will. 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they both said, yeah, the rush is not complete. 107 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeh. 108 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Well, every DM says that a favorite draft, right, So 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that that was Trent Balky trying 110 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: to be code after the draft saying we have to 111 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: go a pass rusher or the wheels are coming off 112 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: this thing. Look, they lost Smoot and they lost Ardent Key. 113 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Those were good pieces and Arden played very well within 114 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: the last year. But the reality is, if they go 115 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: get somebody, I don't think they're necessarily thinking that they're 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: going to get a guy who's going to come in 117 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: to be the best pass rusher on the team. I 118 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: think they think they're going if they need a guy, 119 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: it's a supplementary part to the pass rush they already have. 120 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: So I think there's a difference between what the fans 121 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: are thinking right now. 122 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: We use it. Last week. 123 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: I get a question, why are the Jaguars struggling to 124 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: find a pass rusher. I don't think they are. I 125 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: think they have probably contacted three or four free agents 126 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: said hey, we're interested. When the price gets right, let's 127 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: stay in touch. Don't sign anywhere else until you talk 128 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: to us. That's about where they're at right now. 129 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: Look, and I don't have these high expectations for Jordan 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: Smith right because he was out all last year and 131 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: he didn't do anything as a rookie. But when you 132 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: look at him, you see a guy and you think, well, 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: that's what a pass rusher looks like. Right, Well, I 134 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 4: want to see him on the practice field. I want 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: to see him every snap of the three preseason games. 136 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: Same thing with calebon Chason. I mean, when you look 137 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: at the guy, you see all of the physical attributes 138 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: and he's made a bunch of plays. 139 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: It's out here running around in shorts and T shirts. 141 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: But maybe he's turned the corner. Well, let me find 142 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: that out. If Justin Houston is the guy that I 143 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: long for, right or Jadavian Clowney or Unique and Gkway 144 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: or Frank Clark, whoever the veteran is, I'll be able 145 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: to find that guy, you know, sometime in August, and 146 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: I'll know mid August. I don't have enough pass rush yet, 147 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: so there's no reason to rush it right now. I 148 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: want to see these guys and give them all the 149 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: reps I possibly can. 150 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you're a cook, Brian, so 151 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: I use this example. You always check what you have 152 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: in the pantry first, right before you go to the 153 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: grocery store. You're like, do I have some stuff that 154 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: can work for this situation? And it's kind of like, 155 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: we have some young guys. Obviously they weren't you know, 156 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: some of them were rookies last year, and some of 157 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: them maybe weren't up to their fullest potential. So maybe 158 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: it's what do we have here? Can we work with 159 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: what we have before we go out and add into this. 160 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 4: You're right, And maybe I'm already out on the limb, 161 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: but let me go all the way out. I think 162 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: this is going to be the year that we see 163 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: some production from number forty five from Calebon Chason. Is 164 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: he going to be that first round picknum? No, I 165 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: don't see that, But I think he's the guy who 166 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: can take arden Key's spot. 167 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Right. 168 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: I've always when I've watched Chase on it's amazed me. 169 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: He gets to the quarterback, he gets around the quarterback, 170 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: but he never makes the play right. He just doesn't finish. 171 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: Maybe he sturt a corner can finish. Just watching him, 172 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: I've been interested in just his awareness, which is about 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: all you can look for out there at this point. 174 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: John. 175 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: But I'll go out in the limb and say that 176 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: this is the year that Chason has a significant impact. 177 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Right. 178 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: And maybe it's only four and a half sacks like 179 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: arden Key, but people look and go oh hm oh, 180 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: maybe he can be a player. 181 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Also, remember how this works. It's not like if the 182 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars call Unique, for example, and say hey, well we're 183 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: ready to sign you. We're going to sign you for 184 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: seven million. Well, the agent's going to say fantastic and 185 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: he's going to call. 186 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Four or five out of the team. 187 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: See, if you get it knocked up, it still is 188 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: going to have to be something that works. So my 189 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: sense is there's multiple teams Jaguars included, waiting for the 190 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: market to come down and make sense. I don't know 191 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: where that market's going to be. I don't know if 192 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: it'll get there for this because remember every dollar you 193 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: spend this year something you can't roll over when cap 194 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: is going to be a big issue going forward. So again, 195 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: I just don't think that they are. I don't think 196 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: they feel desperate. I think there are fans who see 197 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: this as a desperate situation. 198 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: And I think it'll be a little bit situational too. 199 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: I know, we talked about Riley and then all of 200 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: a sudden we get a new kicker, So I think 201 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: it might be something where something pops up, or you know, 202 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: if someone is injured in training camp and you're like, hey, 203 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: we really need a veteran presence here. Because also I 204 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: think there is something to be said when you have 205 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: young players on defense, you don't necessarily want to bring 206 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: in a ton of people that are like, oh, I 207 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: don't believe in you, So I'm bringing these other people 208 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: to kind of take your job because there's the mental 209 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: aspect as well. These are young guys. 210 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: You're right, and it harkens back to something we've been 211 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: talking about around here for years but we've never done, 212 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: and that is draft and developed. John, This team has 213 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: always had to use free agency as a means to 214 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: overcome the mistakes in the draft that has been made 215 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: around here. Well, now you've got some young guys with 216 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: potential that you're excited about, and you have the added 217 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 4: impetus of the quarterback and his salary. You have to 218 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: become a draft and developed team. You must become a 219 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: draft and developed team because your salary gap is not 220 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: going to allow you with this quarterback salary to be 221 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: able to go do that for much longer. So this 222 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: is a good year to practice and develop these guys. 223 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: If you're going to be a draft and developed team, 224 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: you have to draft and development. I know that sounds 225 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of silly, but they've talked around here forever about 226 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: being a draft developed team, and then they draft and 227 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: if a guy's not first year, they go get that guy, 228 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: draft and develop. The hard months of draft and develop 229 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: are after the season until that next season starts when 230 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: you have to trust what you've done before camp panic. 231 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: That's good. 232 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: No one's panic. Everyone's chill. We're good right now. Is 233 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: there any names that you guys are really interested in 234 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: that is still available that maybe you'd want to see 235 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: as an addition or are you still kind of just 236 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: waiting to see what the roster has currently. 237 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 4: I give you a name, Kah and only because I've 238 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: admired him since watching him in the Citrus Bowl, you know, 239 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 4: destroy Michigan. 240 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: But Jenevan Clowney, you know. 241 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going to give me someone, you know, 242 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: when he and JJ Watt were together in the division 243 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: in Houston and I would stand by the tunnel here 244 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: as they would rock out of him in the field. 245 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: They're just so much bigger than everyone else. I mean, 246 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: when you want to if you're looking for a guy 247 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: who walks through the crowd at the airport, you go, 248 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 4: that guy plays in the NFL. What it's Clowney, right, 249 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the longest arms and the broadest shoulders. 250 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: So if you gotta bring someone in, you know, I mean, 251 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 4: he's never been that star, but disruptive. Holy hell, the 252 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: guy can blow things up in the middle of the line. 253 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: And I know he's got a bad knee and he's 254 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: been around for a long time. But if I'm gonna 255 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: put some money into an older guy, I take him. 256 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that they already don't have that in Trayvon, 258 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: meaning I think Trayvon can developed in a much better 259 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: pass rush than he showed last year. But he's disruptive, 260 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: he's big. I mean, I think Trayvon can give you 261 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: what clown it could get me now, and I think 262 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: that's why they're not going after that. I think they 263 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: feel that The only question with Trayvon it's not whether 264 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be very, very, very good, it's whether 265 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: he's going to have sack numbers. So if you're looking 266 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: for arden Key type production, which is what I think 267 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people are panicking, they didn't have to 268 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: me that might be unique and I wouldn't rule that out, 269 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: but you could have that with your share Abdullah, sure, 270 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: But for anybody, I mean, it's going to have to 271 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: come down to market making sense. 272 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: Well, look, the question was is there anybody that you'd like? 274 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: And I gave you the reason why. But I do 275 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: understand and and John makes a great point. I think 276 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker is going to be a guy that you 277 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: were going to see a lot of big, productive plays 278 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: from this year. Will they all be stracked sack strips 279 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: like he had in Nashville that kind of turned that 280 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: game around last year? You know, there were two big plays, 281 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: by the way that he made in both of those 282 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: games against Tennessee. One was the sack and the strip 283 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: that put the ball back in the hands of Trevor 284 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: right in the first half and got the Jaguars on 285 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: the board. The other was a big third down stop 286 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: out here against Derrick Henry where literally he reached out 287 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: with one big arm and did what I didn't think 288 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: anyone could do. So if you're thinking, well Trayvon Walker 289 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: didn't do a lot last year, he won both of 290 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: the games and may have been the guy who won 291 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: the division for you in a sense with those big 292 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: plays that turned the game around. 293 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: And he's young. 294 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: If time, if that play on Henry had been a sack, 295 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: everyone would be the perception of him would be different 296 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: along some fans would be different right, just based on 297 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: that because they would give him four and a half 298 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: a big play late, you know. 299 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: And I get a Ray Sean made the big playout year, 300 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 4: but but he doesn't even get a chance to make 301 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: that play if not for if not for that that stop. 302 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: So I was reading a story somewhere about the three 303 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: pass rushers last year that went in the top ten picks, 304 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: and they were kind of dismissive of Treyvon Walker. Hold off, 305 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: let's see you if he can be well, he probably 306 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: made the two plays that won the division last year. 307 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: I don't know whether you know. 308 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: The national folks aren't going to look that deep, but 309 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: you should remember them. 310 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: And as this team is built and as it's construction 311 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: around the offense, the defense doesn't need to be you know, 312 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: a shutdown Denver Broncos defense where you only score you know, 313 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: three points a game. They need to keep them in line, 314 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: get Trevor the ball back and let them win. Yeah, 315 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: let them win games that way. All right, talk a 316 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: lot of defense coming up. We are going to head 317 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: to the offensive side of the ball. We heard from 318 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence for the first time during OTAs, So come 319 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: right back and you'll hear from him. 320 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: We'll come back here with us obviously third year in 321 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: the league, so you know the development and the growth 322 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: you know, we got to see the way he ended 323 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: the season last year. Got to see you to start 324 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 5: the season right and just just continue that progression with him. 325 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: And he's on the right track. He's doing everything that 326 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: we've asked him to do. He's again a young player 327 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 5: on our team. He's the you know, he's the he's 328 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: the key to the you know, the offense and makes it, 329 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: makes it work. So you know, he understands his role 330 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 5: from the standpoint of, you know, put the ball in 331 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 5: the playmaker's hands, you know. But now having a full 332 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: year of our offense under his belt too, that that 333 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: gives him a lot of confidence where you know, last 334 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: year we were still teaching and he was still learning, 335 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: and you know, he's still learning. But the uh, he's 336 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: now teaching you know, the offense to the other guys. 337 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Very well. We hear from the former quarterback winging in 338 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: on the current quarterback. We're gonna go all Trevor right now, 339 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: because obviously he's, you know, the face of the franchise. 340 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: You want to know how he's doing. We talked, he 341 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: talked to the media yesterday and he just looks as 342 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: good as ever. I mean, I wasn't here last season. 343 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: You'll have to tell me. But he looks like he 344 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: is in a good place. He understands things. He talked 345 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: to him a little bit about, you know, finally having 346 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: some consistency going in obviously the second year under Doug Peterson, 347 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: and he just feels like he's in a better space. 348 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: Well, let's take you back to twenty twenty one for 349 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: just a moment, which was, you know, a hall of 350 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: horrors around here. For the obvious reason, John, I think 351 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: we were all impressed with the way that he handled 352 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: himself that year. Here's a young quarterback with things breaking 353 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: down around him, who was asked the question every week, 354 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: was it like to lose for you? Because if you 355 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: call at Carter's film clumbs and he rarely lost, and 356 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: you know, whether he played well or whether the team 357 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: played well, which they didn't very much, he always came 358 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: and answered questions and seemed to have that poise in 359 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: the noise right. Last year he just took a step 360 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: on that and this year my observation to Trevor Lawrence 361 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: is is that. 362 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: He is in complete control. Right. 363 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: It's almost like Doug and Mike McCoy and Press Taylor 364 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: kind of tell him what they want and he goes 365 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: and runs the practice. Right, he's out there talking to guys, 366 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: pointing and putting guys in position. 367 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: I know. 368 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: Ever, almost to talk about leadership, the guy defines it, 369 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: absolutely utterly defines quarterback leader. 370 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guest on the ozone podcast this week, 371 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: so it's it's I asked him about that same thing, 372 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: and I kind of asked him on the lines of 373 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: he was so poised as a rookie, and then so 374 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: poised even with a two and six start, I said, 375 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: I kind of asked him if that was all BS. 376 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Or not, like, you know, is that just shocking? 377 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you sort of are interested in how guy's 378 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: feeling inside, and he said, well, there are obviously times 379 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: where you struggle with confidence, but then he also said 380 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: he's always just sort of believed the phrase he used 381 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: that he that he would come out on the other side. So, yes, 382 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: there are ups and downs that you have as a 383 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: person that are natural. But he really does have this 384 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: confidence because he's never been proven wrong on this, that 385 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: he is going to be good, that it's going to 386 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: work out. If he does the right things, then he 387 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: will succeed. So I thought that was an interesting answer 388 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: along this front and Doug Peterson talked about the second 389 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: year jump that he was going to take in this offense. 390 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: And when Doug talked at the top of this show 391 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: about liking what he's seeing, I think Doug seeing all 392 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: the signs of everything, including Trevor, that those things are 393 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: going to happen. Everything looks and feels like it's supposed 394 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: to and as Doug said, now you've got to go 395 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: do it when the pads come on. 396 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 4: In September in twenty twenty one, he came into a 397 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: dozen press conferences and said, I know what I am 398 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: capable of doing. I know what kind of player I am. 399 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: And it was refreshing to see that, despite the fact 400 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: that things weren't going well. As John said, he saw 401 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 4: what was coming and what the other side of the 402 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: equation was and now we're all getting to see it. 403 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: Says a lot about character, and that's the stuff you 404 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: can't teach, right, So obviously saw that early. Let's hear 405 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: a little bit from Trevor himself talking about what he's 406 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: working on in terms of details this season. 407 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 6: The little things, the details of the position, whether it's 408 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 6: you know, different progressions, just being smarter with the ball. 409 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 6: In certain situations. You know, I think you look at 410 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 6: our season last year and had a lot of situations 411 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 6: where he made a lot of crazy plays and a 412 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 6: lot of things that we needed to do to win games. 413 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 6: But how do I just play in and play out, 414 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 6: be more consistent, you know, take the take the checkdown 415 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 6: on certain plays. When do I trust my instincts, you know, 416 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 6: just being smart about all that. I think you know 417 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 6: I do that well at times where there's sometimes I 418 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 6: could be a little bit more consistent and just make 419 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 6: the easy plays, make the routine plays every time. And 420 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: that's where I'm trying. 421 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: To improve more on consistency the key there. Right, We've 422 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: seen what he's capable of, but he needs to do that, 423 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: you know, the entire season this year, and I think 424 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: he's aware of that and the fact they can't play 425 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: from behind every game and expect to win some of 426 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: the crazy ways that they did. They need to get 427 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: out ahead early. 428 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: I think what's interesting is in the AFC, you are 429 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: always going to have to be on top of your game. 430 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: We'll hear that from Trevor, that same thing. 431 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: From him, but it's true every game he will. 432 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: One hundred and ten percent on this one when you 433 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: look at the quarterback the Joe Burrows that justin Herbert's 434 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: you know, all the guys to forget Patrick Mahomes right 435 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: and Josh Allen in order to be at his best, 436 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: He's going to have to be focused on the little 437 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 4: details like that and consistency. 438 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: John is the one. 439 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: You've probably talked about it the most since you got 440 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: back here, you know, thirteen fourteen years ago, after covering 441 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning. Is it's doing the same thing the same 442 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 4: way every play. 443 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, look, I'm sure Doug would tell you the 444 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: same thing. They weren't a great team last year, and 445 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Trevor wasn't a great quarterback last year, even at the 446 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: end of the season. You know, great probably doesn't throw 447 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the four picks out there. Yeah, now when I say that, 448 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't expect great as a second year guy. What 449 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Trevor's talking about, the consistency stuff is what will make 450 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: him great and what will make this team great. They 451 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: can't play on the same edge that they played on 452 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: in the last five or six games of this season 453 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: and expect to have those same results. There was some 454 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: good fortune involved in their finish. They earned that good fortune, 455 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: but you can't always rely on that for this team 456 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: to get where it wants to go. The second year 457 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: jump that Doug's talking about in this offense will come 458 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: in the form of consistency, but it's got to happen. 459 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'm sure based on what Doug said yesterday, that's 460 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: what he's emphasized and is look, guys, abay to win 461 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls last year's not good enough. I mean fundamentally, 462 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: but also even to get back to where we want 463 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: to go and get to where this franchise wants to go, 464 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: that has to be perceived looking back as a stepping stone. 465 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: It can't be the apex. 466 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: It feels like a good mindset as well, because the 467 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: other thing is you don't want to get off the 468 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: rails if you lose one game, right to be able 469 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: to kind of reboot and be like, all right, let's 470 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: not go on a giant skid again and dig ourselves 471 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: into a huge hole and be like, we have the 472 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: capability to get ourselves out of this. I'm going to 473 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: do my routine. You see him getting just comfortable and 474 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: just feeling like he's ready to go. I also talked 475 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: to when we talked to him yesterday, Trevor touched a 476 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: little bit upon what it's like for him now in 477 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: his Thursday third season to be a little bit more 478 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: of a vocal leader, just. 479 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: Knowing everybody more. 480 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: You have those relationships with guys that have been here 481 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 6: since my rookie year, and then guys that came in 482 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 6: last year, and then now being a third year guy 483 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 6: with the rookies coming in. I think you just had 484 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 6: that experience where you feel more comfortable speaking up and 485 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: being the leader in the room, leader of the offense. 486 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 6: And then beyond that, I think obviously playing well and 487 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 6: having a year we had last year gives you more confidence, 488 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 6: and I mean that helps a little bit. But at 489 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 6: the end of the day, I try to be the 490 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 6: same guy, you know, I don't change just because we 491 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: had some success last year. Trying to be that same guy, 492 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 6: lead by example and use my voice when needed. 493 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's always been a leader, but he does 494 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: seem like the same guy. Right he's worried. You can't 495 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: really tell if he's if he's happy. You can tell 496 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: a little bit, but not really and kind of the 497 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: even keel, But would you need at that position. 498 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes he's already consistent in front of the media. Right, 499 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: he's already consistent with the message, and all you can 500 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: assume is he's the same guy with his teammates in there. 501 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a no brainer as far as I 502 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 4: see it. 503 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the leadership thing, I think he had that falling 504 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: out of the crib. 505 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 506 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine I'm ever lacking it. I 507 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: really couldn't. 508 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: That's just his thing. At the same time, if it 509 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: was year three and he hadn't had success last year, 510 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: then that natural leadership is going to be sort of 511 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: eroded a little bit by some guys in the locker 512 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: room saying that's great, you're a leader, but can you 513 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: play well. That leadership now has been supplemented by Wow. 514 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: This kid can make plays. It's been defined. 515 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this kid can be special. So now all 516 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden that starts taking off and no matter 517 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: what he does, they will follow him. But he's a natural. 518 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: And again, he's the kind of guy people want to 519 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: be around and they want to play with and four 520 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: and all that. And now that he's succeeded, I think 521 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: that thank you'll just see him turn into that dynamic 522 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: no questions asked. Whatever he says is the tone of 523 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: the franchise guy. 524 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: That's a great point, and we'll never we'll never hear 525 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: or see a list of all the people who picked 526 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: up the phone, whose agents picked up the phone and 527 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: called Trent Balkey and said, hey, do you have any 528 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: interest in my guy? Right, we're talking about guys the 529 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: Jaguars might have interest in. But because of Doug Peterson 530 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence and what they're doing on that side 531 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 4: of the ball, there will be players who will pick 532 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: up the phone, whether the Jacks have any interest or not, 533 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: they'll say, we would like to come and talk to 534 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: you about playing in Jacksonville. You want to be around this. 535 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: You're looking for a situation where there's opportunity for greatness. 536 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: And when you have a quarterback and a head coach 537 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: who are playing and doing these things, you will have 538 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 4: people saying I want to be a part of that. 539 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: But you're never gonna hear that. 540 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: And that's the best part though, because it's the humility. 541 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: We know they're talented, they know they're talented, but they're 542 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: not coming on saying yeah, I know I'm talented, Like 543 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: Trevor's out there like yeah, I feel like John Wood, Well. 544 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: John I've been on the hall where you call and 545 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: ask if you're interested in people. 546 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 3: They say no, and they just hang out. 547 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: Haven't we all welcome to high school? 548 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 6: Oh? 549 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: John, We're not going to go down that dark pat 550 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: We are going to say. Trevor's very humble and that 551 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: is what makes him very special because he is as 552 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: talented as well. We talked also, he talked a little 553 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: bit yesterday about obviously this offense is expected to do 554 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: great things. They're going to have to outscore some of 555 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: most of their opponents. Obviously, if you want in the game, 556 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: you have to outscore them. But you know, the run 557 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: with some of the Chiefs and the Bengals and some 558 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: of these high scoring offenses. If he has an exact 559 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: number in mind of how many points they want to 560 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: score a game, he's certainly not sharing that right now. 561 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, you're looking to improve in every category 562 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 6: and every part of your personal game and as an offense. 563 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, no, I'm not 564 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 6: gonna give you answer, because we're going to score as 565 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: many points it takes to win. And some weeks that'll 566 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 6: be some weeks that might be thirty five, some weeks 567 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 6: that might be seventeen. Who knows what it's going to be. Obviously, 568 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: we want to score as many points as we. 569 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: Can by the end of the day. 570 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 6: If we got one more point than the other team, 571 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 6: that's what it's about, all right. 572 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: He's not going to give us a number. What do 573 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: we think is plausible here? Well? 574 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: I asked the head coach about it. 575 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 4: I did an interview with him for the alumni newsletter 576 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: a few months ago, and I told him I was 577 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: flippantly just out there throwing, you know, thirty five points 578 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: a game out there, rotary clubs and things, and he. 579 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: Goes, why not sure? 580 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: He said no, In truth, he said, we scored twenty 581 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: four and the Chiefs who won the Super Bowl were 582 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 4: scoring just under twenty eight, right, so we need to 583 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: get to thirty if we're going to be in the 584 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: mix and compete with the best of the best. 585 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: So thirty one, yeah, I. 586 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: Thought the Chiefs led the league at around thirty point 587 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: five last year. 588 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: Could be wrong, but but that was what he said. 589 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: I didn't check. Well, I don't, are you all right? 590 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: We need fact check. 591 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: But they improved from I think it was thirteen nine 592 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one to where they were last year, right, 593 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers, I think they were 594 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: right around twenty four points a game last year. They 595 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: were around twenty six or twenty seven late in the season. 596 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Once they sort of figured it out, you add another 597 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: step of figuring it out, and you add readily to this. 598 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they would ever say this. I think 599 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Doug's looking at this saying and we ought to be 600 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: in the top three. When you look at all we 601 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: ought to be able to go to Kansas City, go 602 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: to Buffalo, go to Cincinna MSA, go play those guys 603 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: and be in all the offensive shootout games we've seen 604 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: those three teams play. I think Doug looked at this 605 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: offense and says, we ought to be able to be 606 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: in that. Well, you look at all the weapons and 607 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram isn't even out on the field right now, 608 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: you look at what's possible. Tank Bigsby has been impressive 609 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: right the last two practices I've watched him, and now 610 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: you think about, well, where can I put Travis etn 611 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: How can I create a mismatch by moving him out 612 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: of the backfield and lining him up in the slot, 613 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: or why what can I do when I've got the 614 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: tight ends. Strange made a great catch yesterday. The third 615 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: round pick, pardon me, the second round pick from Penn 616 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: State made beautiful catch. 617 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: Me. 618 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: You've just got so many pieces. And now you take 619 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: Doug and Press and Mike McCoy three really really good 620 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: offensive mines with this quarterback. Yeah, be in the top three. 621 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: It's when it starts to get fun, right, Yeah. 622 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've never seen anything like. 623 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: We've seen some good offense around here in the day, 624 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: but I don't think anything like what we're about to see. 625 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: Certainly on paper, this is the best we're gonna be 626 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: able to probably put together. I'd imagine at this point, 627 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: it's just getting gluttonous, right if we add anybody else. 628 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody asked you about DeAndre Hopkins the other day, 629 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: and my first thought is, where's even play? 630 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: Where's the spot for I'm gonna. 631 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: Get he's a great player, but why you get how well? 632 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: And I think there's an element too. This could be 633 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: the a peak point in terms of how many high 634 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: profile skill guys they can have. Yeah, once you start 635 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: with a contract, then it could become a situation where 636 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: you have a little more emphasis on the quarterback position 637 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: and he has to carry guys that are less proven. 638 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: That's supposed to be how the how the balance sort 639 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: of shifts once you get that. So are you going 640 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: to have another year where you've got this perfect storm 641 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: of Christian Kirk second year, Evan Ingram second year, Zay 642 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: Jones second year rookie? You know, I don't know if 643 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: you have that perfect storm, although if Trevor is what 644 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: we think, then you can maintain a high level of 645 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: pace offensively very well. 646 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna do John's zone questions when we 647 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: come back, and we'll get all of those questions answered 648 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: for you. So stay with us. 649 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: This friend, lady. 650 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: Oh all right, we're gonna check in with the ever 651 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: wise John Oser and get his answers on some of 652 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: these questions that you guys have sent to him. First, 653 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: we're checking in with p Funk from Murray Hill. That's 654 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: our first question of the day. Does the signing of 655 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: our thirteen rookies dip into the money that the team 656 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: could use to sign more veteran free agents? 657 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 658 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go deep, deep, deep into this. The 659 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: answer is not really Uh. It is a rookie salary 660 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: cap and it would take a while to explain the 661 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: machinations of that, but essentially, your rookie salary cap UH 662 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: is a cap within a cap. All of those guys 663 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: that you signed don't always count against your off season cap, Brian, 664 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: So it it affects it a touch, but it's also 665 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: planned for well in advance so that it doesn't really 666 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: affect moves that they make anything effect to the cap. 667 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: But they knew what their cap number was going to 668 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: be and it's not affecting their activity right now, So 669 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: that's not I'm sure people who the depth of the 670 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: cap every detail that I'm probably missing some things there, 671 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: but that's the essence of it. 672 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: They've got eleven million dollars in cap room right now 673 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: for signing their rookie class, so they're. 674 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: Not missing out on anybody because of money at the time. 675 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: No, and there are there are still two players with 676 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: big numbers, Cam and Darius Williams. If they decided they 677 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: were going to jump in, they could restructure a bit 678 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: they haven't. There's also Evan Ingram that they could sign 679 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: to a long term deal and drop his eleven point 680 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: three million dollars franchise tag down. So there's plenty of mechanisms, 681 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: enough players, there's not enough need to go and do this, right, 682 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if they really wanted to sign a pass rusher, 683 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess that they can get that pass rusher 684 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: in on a two year deal and make his number 685 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: this year somewhere about six seven eight million, you know, 686 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: in a way that they can fit it in. So 687 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: they shouldn't need to restructure. But if they felt the 688 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: need to, if there was something there, they could go 689 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: and do it. They're in really strong cap shape. 690 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: And they're certainly waiting it out too for that veteran guy. 691 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: If they are going to go that route, they'll hopefully 692 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: get a little bit of a bargain later closer to 693 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: the start of the season. All right. Question two for you, 694 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: John is from Joe in Jacksonville. If Trevor plays well 695 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: next season, is there any scenario where he does not 696 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: get extended? Would they wait a year? 697 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: Well, there's always scenarios, I mean, and so the best 698 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: way I can explain it is the Bengals have their 699 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: chance after their season end this year to re sign 700 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: not Joe Burroder a long term deal. Nobody thinks that 701 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. 702 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: They're working on it right now. 703 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: It hasn't happened yet, mainly because the complexities of this 704 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: contract that have to spread out over perhaps ten years 705 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: and affect your cap. They are complicated. I guess negotiations 706 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the word. But it's not even like the sides are 707 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: in disagreement. It's that they're trying to find do so this. Yeah, 708 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: there's a possibility that it wouldn't get done next offseason, 709 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think there's any possibility that it won't 710 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: be discussed. And I don't think it's going to be 711 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: an adversarial situation with this. I think it's going to 712 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: be Trenton shod going to Trevor's people and saying, let's 713 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make this work that makes 714 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: him happy, makes them the highest paid whatever, and also 715 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: works for our team. And I think Trevor's team will go, yeah, 716 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: let's make sure we go that direction. I think that's 717 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: the only scenario. I don't see a scenario where the 718 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars go. 719 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: Hmmm, let's play games here, wait a year. No, I 720 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: think that's what it's going to be. No, you're right, 721 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: there's a couple of things to add to that. First 722 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: of all, when you're talking now about these quarterbacks in 723 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: these mega contracts that are coming, right, I mean, was 724 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: it ten years ago that we are not even ten 725 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: five years ago that Matt Ryan became the first thirty 726 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: million dollar a year quarterback. Five years later, now we're 727 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: in the mid fifties, right, So there's a mechanism that 728 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: is being investigated, and that is, can you take a 729 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: quarterback and make him a percentage of your salary cap? Right, 730 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: say you will always be x percent, eight, nine, ten percent, 731 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: whatever it is. Well, no one's done that yet, right, and. 732 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: That because it's a little trickier than just that, but 733 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: that's probably coming at some point in the future, because 734 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: we're talking if it's taken five years to get to 735 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: the mid fifties. 736 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: Which are at seventy eighty, that kind of thing, Well, 737 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: nobody wants to be the first. I mean, everyone's still 738 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: pissed off at the Browns for fully guaranteeing Deshaun Watson's contract. 739 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: They don't want to set precedent without consulting, you know, 740 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: other teams and making sure that this is the best 741 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: model going forward. Because Burrow's contract and Justin Herbert is 742 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: up for a contract this year, I think the expectation 743 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: is both of them will have something done here in 744 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: the next couple of months. It will set a precedent 745 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: that Shad and Trent and the team here will then 746 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: be able to follow. 747 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Right. 748 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: So it's not just complex within your own salary cap, 749 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: it's complex within the framework of the thirty two teams 750 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: and how that changes the dynamic of paying all quarterbacks 751 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: going forward. So this process is slow. I would expect 752 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: you want to get it done, John, because you've got 753 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: a bunch of young players coming up in the next 754 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: few years, and the quarterback will set the temple for 755 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: your entire salary cap. How you do Trevor will allow 756 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: you to go forward and keep as much together as 757 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: you want. So they've got to get it right, and 758 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: Burrow and Herbert are going to set that precedent. 759 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the And if this question was implying 760 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: it for some questions I've gotten, well, would they try 761 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: to quote be smart about this and let him play 762 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: out his deal, play on the franchise. You don't have 763 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: to do this immediately, and for the reasons you said Bryan. 764 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't do that when you believe 765 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: he is your guy. You want to build around it. 766 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: And the sooner that you get the structure of the 767 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: salaries in place, the sooner I mean think of it 768 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: as an Excel spreadsheet. You get that Trevor in place 769 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: on your cap, then you can figure out how the 770 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: rest of your decade's going to look at lease have 771 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: a plan. Until you know that, then you may as 772 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: well have like little scraps of paper. 773 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: In the air. 774 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: And I just want to point this out to go 775 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: back to the Brown set, the president of a fully 776 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: guaranteed contract. Well, the Ravens couldn't get their deal done 777 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 4: with Lamar Jackson for the longest time because he said, 778 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 4: well they guaranteed Sean Watson, I want that guaranteed money, right. 779 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 4: So these owners they're thinking of their cap and their 780 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: business situation, but they're also in business with thirty one 781 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: other owners and they've got to work together to make 782 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: sure it's a collusion. But they're working together to make 783 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: sure that if you're setting a precedent, I got to 784 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: be able to live up to it. I got to 785 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: be able to do it too. There's a lot of 786 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: other issues, and we could go deep into the weeds 787 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 4: on it, like having to put money in escrow. So 788 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: if I guarantee you one hundred million, I've got to 789 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 4: have one hundred million in cash to give you and 790 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: put into an escrow account. And the viability of the 791 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: funding rule. But the point is the Jaguars will get 792 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: something done as quickly as they can with their quarterback because. 793 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: He's their guy, not a mathematician. This is well above 794 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: my pay grade. But I know he will get his money, 795 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,479 Speaker 3: and I know he Treblor will be here for quite 796 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: some time. What the logistics of that are will see 797 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: in the next year or two. But they're going to 798 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: get that done for sure. All right, stay with us. 799 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: Coming up, we'll have a peek at what we've got 800 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 3: going on the rest of the weekend. What you guys 801 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 3: have to look forward to. Move the freight. Move the freight. 802 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: Magellan Transport voted coolest office space in Jacksonville. Apply online 803 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com to check them out. 804 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: All right, eight underway today nine to ten. Potentially getting 805 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 3: Mini camp canceled. I think everyone has their fingers crossed 806 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: for that. I'm just gonna say it. I think everybody 807 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: has their fingers crossed for that, And so the veterans 808 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: probably already have vacations book. 809 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 4: To be completely honest, you know, Doug last year talked 810 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: about why he canceled it because he saw what he 811 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 4: needed to see from these guys in the off season program. 812 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: If he saw that last year, I have to believe 813 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 4: that he has seen even more from them this year. 814 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: You know, these guys out there, there's an intensity to 815 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: the way that they work. You know, and I wrote 816 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: it in the column for John yesterday. There's such a 817 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: calmness to this team this year. Right, Everything is like, yeah, 818 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: we know what to do, let's go here and do this. 819 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 4: But when they get there to do it, they do 820 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: it with intensity. My guess is, if Doug saw it 821 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 4: last year, he saw it this year. And veterans aren't 822 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: going to be on the field much next week, if 823 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 4: at all. 824 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: I think he said as much yesterday. He's made his decision. 825 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: He didn't tell us what that decision is. But Doug 826 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: Peterson has made his decision about Mini camp already field. 827 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: But I don't think guys that don't need to be 828 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: will fair enough. 829 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: What do you got cooking this week? I know you 830 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: talked to Trevor for. 831 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Your talk sure for the Ozone podcast that's the main thing. 832 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: I believe that I'll roll out Thursday and it's worth 833 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: listening to. He's always really good in that environment, and 834 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I think fans will. 835 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: Enjoy it absolutely well. Love that looking forward to everything. 836 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: We will check in with you for one more off 837 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: season drive time before we take a little bit of 838 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 3: a break and get ready for training camp. As always, 839 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: thank you for joining us and we'll see soon.