1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Tommy Diderio GEO Benitez Geo Geo Geo Geo is America's 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: sweetheart on Good Morning America and to me, well, he 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: is my sweetheart too. I know that was so oh God, 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: that was so dorky, but it's true. It's true. You 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: might know that he's my husband of almost ten years. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: But to the world, he is the Saturday and Sunday 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Good Morning America anchor. He is the transportation correspondent during 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: the week, and he appears on World News Tonight with 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: David Muor and twenty twenty in Nightline regularly. But I 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: want you to get to know the GEO that I know. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: We see that megawatt, million dollar smile light up the 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: screen every single week, But what's behind the smile? Who 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: is GEO? Beyond the job? 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Right? 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And I've been wanting him to do the show for 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: quite a while, for two years now, but we have 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: to find the right moment. And this is the right 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: moment because it's his birthday week and he is hitting 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: a milestone birthday forty years young. I want to know 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: what he's feeling and where he is in this moment 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: in his life. And yes, we're going to talk about 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: some work things, of course, but we're gonna also learn 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: about the heart that Geo has and you know, get 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: inside that mind a little bit. And yes, there'll be 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: some fun couples questions. You guys wrote some great ones in. 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: But it's such a great episode. Dare I say it's 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: my favorite episode yet? I am so excited to have 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: him on the show. So let's see if today we 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: can get mister Giobanitez to say something that he has 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: never said before. Giobanitas mm hmm, welcome to I've never 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: said this before. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Why am I so nervous? I don't know. 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: You've been having like a nervous breakdown for four days now. 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: My heart is racing. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: But I don't get it. You're on a morning national 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: news show with millions and millions and millions of viewers 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: a day, Yet your nervous to set across from me 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: aka your husband and have a conversation. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm usually the one asking the questions, and 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: these questions I don't even know what these questions are. 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, so we have an entire podcast 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: and I don't know what you're gonna ask. 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, I have been saying I'm going 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: to ask totally outrageous things that you would never want 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: to answer. 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: So that hasn't helped. 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that probably hasn't helped your anxiety. But 49 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: you're here now and you feel good. 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: Right, I'll get there, Okay, Okay. 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: You do know that people for two years have been 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: asking when you're coming on and why you haven't come on. 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: People are like, I don't get it. Why has GEO 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: not come on? 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: But why do they want me on? 56 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Well? 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they want you on? I mean, you're You're 58 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: a part of my life. You have an interesting story. 59 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: People love your work, you know. But it's it had 60 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: to be the right time, And I felt like this 61 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: was the right time for you because you're embracing a 62 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: new chapter of your life very soon. Your birthday is 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: coming up. You're turning the Big four to oh and 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: I think with that comes a lot of reflection and 65 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people know your work. You know, you're 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: known to be obviously you're the anchor on Saturday and 67 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Sundays of Good Morning America. You're the trans pretation correspondent 68 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: during the week, you do World News Tonight with David Muore. 69 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: You do basically everything across ABC news shows. But I 70 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: don't think people always get the chance to learn a 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: bit who you are and you know, see a different 72 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: side to you besides what you're reporting. You get to 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: kind of hide behind what you're reporting sometimes. 74 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: I guess I could see that. 75 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And it's always the facts, and it's always 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: the news, and you do a brilliant job at it, 77 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: and you know, you just you tell the people what 78 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: we need to know. But what we want to know 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: is more about GEO. And I'm lucky or I know 80 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: all about you, but I want to share the share 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: the wealth today, right. 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: I was thinking because obviously two years into the show, 83 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: I know what the last question is. It's what's something 84 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: you've never said before? So obviously I have that, but 85 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: you kind of know it. Also, it's like, you know, 86 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: m hmm, it'll be something I haven't said before I 87 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: gets to the audience. 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: But and I have no idea what you're going to say, 89 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: so I'm very very curious and know what you're going 90 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: to say. You would not tell me you you kept 91 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: that very but. 92 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: You're totally gonna be like, oh, okay, yeah, well. 93 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Let's say, let's see if you surprise me or not. 94 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, welcome to the show. 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: So excited. 96 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I am very happy for the world to hear more 97 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: about who you are. And we're going to talk about 98 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: some work stuff. Of course it will kind of blend 99 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: into the conversation. But this is this is a lot 100 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: more than that. It's it's something I think a lot 101 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: of people are going to be able to relate to 102 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: because it's such a new chapter for you and your life, 103 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: and this is coming out two days before your birthday, 104 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: I believe, so it's it's an exciting time. So let's 105 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: dive right in my first question for you. We're going 106 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: to go kind of kind of deep for the first one. 107 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: And your face just looked terrified. I read like the 108 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: look of terror that just came on your face was 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I wish I had a picture of that. But anyway, 110 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: as you embrace a new you know, decade, what is 111 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: something in your thirties that you learned that changed the 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: way you live your life? 113 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: Wow? That is really deep, That is really good. What 114 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 2: is something in my thirties that I learned that changed 115 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: my life? 116 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: You know? 117 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: I think when I think back to. 118 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: The late teens and the twenties, it was all about yes, 119 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: saying yes at whatever cost, right, because you're you're building 120 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: your career, and it's like go mode, right, You're just going, going, going, going, going, NonStop. 121 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: Let's go no breaks. 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: And I think that in my thirties I learned to, well, no, 123 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: sometimes you have to say no to, you know, certain 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: things or whatever, because you need to make time for 125 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: other things in your life. And that's really really important. 126 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: So you know, our time together is obviously extremely important. 127 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Our time with our families are extremely important, and you 128 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: think back to you know, for me, I think back 129 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: to my grandparents and wanting to have spent more more 130 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: time with them. And that was all during my yes yes, yes, yes, yes, 131 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: yes yes at every waking moment because I was going, going, going, 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: Whereas now I think back and I'm like, oh gosh, 133 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: I wish that I had said no sometimes so that 134 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't miss this party or I wouldn't miss this event, 135 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: And that I think is something that I definitely learned. 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: I think, and by the way, I think everybody goes 137 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: through that that's not unique to me. I think everybody 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: goes with that as you start thinking about, you know, 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: the people in your life who you want to spend 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: more time with. 141 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, one PC. I think we've really gotten better at 142 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: saying no to things, especially because our time together is 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: sacred and we don't always have a lot of it. 144 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: And that's not just like that's not work stuff, right, 145 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: A lot of times it's saying no to you know, 146 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: this event and that event, and and maybe there's an 147 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: event that you know takes you hours away from home 148 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: and you know that sort of thing. 149 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, you also are 150 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: a little bit of a home buddy. 151 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, I do love it, Yes, you love being cozy 152 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: on the couch. 153 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: You nothing more so like to get us out of 154 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: the apartment to go to something. 155 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: You know how much I love television. I know of 156 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: the television. Cozy on the couch, yes, is perfection. 157 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: And to get us out of the house to go 158 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: to something. I think you're at the point. I'm at 159 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: the point where we really have to sit like it 160 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: has to have value to us. It has to be 161 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: for someone we genuinely love in a door or want 162 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: to support, or want to show up for or do 163 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: something for. Right like it has to have. It has 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: to fill our cup as well, you know, so I 165 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: think that's really important. So that's that's really fascinating. And 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I imagine also they. 167 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: Get less deep from here or are we still going deeper? 168 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Can you stop trying to produce this? Like, my god, 169 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: you take the producer hat off, relax, simmer down. 170 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: He started as a producer. 171 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I know you did start as a producer. You did, Yes, 172 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: you did. And you still very much produce a lot 173 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: of your stuff too. 174 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean I really like producing you do. 175 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: And in the news world you do at all. Okay, 176 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: So since we're in the news world for a minute, 177 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of going off of the first question a little bit, 178 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: did a story you ever knew wor gone, either in 179 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: locals or you know here in New York and national 180 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: ever changed something for you? 181 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Did a story ever change something? 182 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: Well? Off that theme of spending time with people and 183 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: all of that, I think back to the pult snight 184 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: Club shooting, and you know, getting on that plane right away, 185 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: but before I even got to Orlando to cover the 186 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: pult snight Club shooting, which was just so horrific and awful, 187 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: and said, I ended up sitting right next to a 188 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: nine to eleven survivor, and the stories that she was 189 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: telling me about surviving nine to eleven when so many 190 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: people around her did. It prepared me for the people 191 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,239 Speaker 3: I was about to meet, these conversations, these tough, heartbreaking 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: conversations that I was about to have when we got 193 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: to you know, the Pul snight Club shooting in Orlando, 194 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: And I think that that was definitely one moment where 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: I remember, like I was thinking a lot existential thoughts 196 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: right about, you know, what would happen if we were 197 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: anywhere and something like that were to happen at any 198 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: given moment without warning, and you think about all of 199 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: the people around you, and you know, obviously obviously us, 200 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: but you're also thinking about all of the people around 201 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: you who you know are standing in the way potentially 202 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: of gunfire, and all these things were going through my mind. 203 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: So that's something that I think really started to get 204 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: me thinking about just time with other people. 205 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: I have to say, from an outside perspective, while being 206 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: very much inside your life, I've never seen you more 207 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: shake in while on assignment doing a story than the 208 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: pul night Club shooting. 209 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I remember we did a live twenty 210 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: twenty that day, and I had two stories in it, 211 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: and one of them was the first interview with a 212 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: survivor from the shooting. And he happened to be a mentor. 213 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: He wasn't gay himself, he was a mentor to all 214 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: these gay kids who were inside the club at the time, 215 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: and he lost a lot of them, a lot of 216 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: these mentees, and so he survived. And I remember, you know, 217 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: just keeping it together doing the two stories in that 218 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: twenty twenty special, and I remember the moment they said, okay, 219 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: you're clear. I took off my ear piece, took off 220 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: my microphone, and the live shot was in kind of 221 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: this hotel area, and so I had a little room 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: there and I walked back to that room, closed the 223 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: door and broke down. And that was probably the first 224 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: time that I did that, and wasn't the last. 225 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: But definitely the first. 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: And later on FaceTime as well, I remember we facetimed. 227 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And that's one of the few stories. Because you're so 228 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: busy and you're moving locations all the time, and you know, 229 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: sometimes I want to do something nice for you, and 230 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: I just I can't because you're on the go, but 231 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: especially in these heavy stories, But do you remember what 232 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I sent you to the hotel room. 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent the rainbow flowers, Yeah. 234 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: Rainbow roses. I found a local florist and I sent 235 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: you rain rainbow roses to just try to bring a 236 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: smile to your face. So how do you how do 237 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you protect your feelings when you're delivering the news to people? 238 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes horrific news like that that as any human being, 239 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: makes you want to just break down and cry, but 240 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: you have to deliver it. 241 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: Well. 242 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't protect my feelings. I think the only reason 243 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: that I'm doing this is to tell stories about other humans. 244 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: And so in order to do that authentically, I think 245 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: you have to feel it. You have to be human yourself. 246 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: You have to understand what it is that they went through. 247 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: And sometimes, yes, that has me in my mind putting 248 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: myself in that same situation. But I think that's healthy. 249 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: I don't think that's anything there's anything wrong with that. 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: I don't shut down. I don't shut down as a human. 251 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't turn into a robot. And if I cry, 252 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: and our viewers on ABC have seen me cry, I'm 253 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of a crier. Sometimes if I cry, 254 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to cry, and it's okay. And I think 255 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: viewers will appreciate that because I don't think they're watching 256 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: to watch a robot. I think they're watching to watch 257 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: another human talk about humans. And for me, this job 258 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: has never been about searching for the next thing that 259 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: happens in the world that's awful or great. It's always 260 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: about understanding the human condition. What is the human condition 261 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: when we're going through something awful and when we're going 262 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: through something so great, the highs and the lows of 263 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 3: life and the highs and lows of being human. And 264 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: so that's something that I think a lot about when 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: I'm on these stories. So I don't shut myself down. 266 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: I don't shut myself down. And whatever happens happens. And 267 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: that's what you're going to get when you turn on 268 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: and watch it happen live. 269 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of your magic. I think that makes 270 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: you very distinct from a lot of other people in 271 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: the business is you do lead with your heart, and 272 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: it is very human with you. And I think more 273 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: and more we want that, we that and we're all 274 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: living through the new cycle and it's hard. It's hard 275 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: to watch sometimes, it's hard to listen to. We're being 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: inundated with story after story that's not always great, and 277 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: you as a human r as well, but then you're 278 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: also working in it, so you're kind of hit from 279 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: both sides. Does that ever take a toll on you? 280 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Sure? I think so. 281 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: I definitely think so. I think that there's times when 282 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, I just have to like put the phone down, 283 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: go get a great workout in, go for a walk 284 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: in the park. 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: You know how many times am I telling you, I'm like, Hi, 286 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: can we go for a walk? 287 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 288 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Hi, can we go for a walk? And sometimes you're 289 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 2: too busy or whatever, And sometimes I'll just go on 290 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: a walk. But a lot of times you join. 291 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: Me and we just go and we take in nature. 292 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: I think when we see, you know, all the world 293 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: around us, and we really look at the other day, 294 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: we walked without the phone. 295 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: We left the phones at home. 296 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever done that. 297 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: We've never done that ever. We left the phone. 298 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: Now, Okay, by the way, full disclosure, we were getting 299 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: the phone was being updated, so we had. 300 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: To didn't have to say that. You seem like decisions 301 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: we took. 302 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: We took advantage of that moment and we said intentionally, 303 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: like you know what, while this is doing this. Let's 304 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: just go without a phone and go through for a walk. 305 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: And we saw things we've never seen before. We've we 306 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: saw birds and animals and. 307 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: Maybe a few rats. It's New York City and and 308 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: and we appreciated them. Yeah right, Yeah, And I think 309 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: that that sometimes we lose sight of that because we're 310 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: buried in our phones and all of that, that we 311 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: lose sight of the world around us. And so that's 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: how I deal with that. 313 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important. Everybody needs an outlet. And I'm glad 314 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I worry sometimes about you and for you and for 315 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: your mental health because it is a lot. And I 316 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: know how much you feel and it's hard to turn 317 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: that off, and you don't turn it off, as you said. 318 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: So the protective side of me is like trying to 319 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: sometimes get you to step away from work for a 320 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: minute and focus on other things and do more more things. 321 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: And you have gotten involved in things like piano and 322 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, things that simulate you and give you joy, 323 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: which which you need, which I so happy about. Okay, 324 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: So in new chapter of your life, you've learned a 325 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: lot throughout the course of your life. What is something 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: you would tell your twenty year. 327 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: Old self, it's all going to be okay. It's all 328 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: going to be okay. You you you sit there worrying 329 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: about the future and how is this going to happen 330 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: in this and that, and that it's all going to 331 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: be okay. 332 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: You said that very quickly. Yeah, why how was it 333 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: just there? 334 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: You you think about all the little worries that you 335 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: have growing up, and and I think that you spend 336 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: so much time in your head thinking about that. Right. 337 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: For me, I think it was obviously growing up gay 338 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: and keeping that a secret, and that was something that 339 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: I didn't talk to anyone about really till I was, 340 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: you know, twenty four years old, right, And so I 341 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: think that you worry like will that hold me back? 342 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: And at the time, the message from society kind of 343 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: was like, yeah it would. And there was nobody I thought, 344 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: like me at the time on television, so I didn't 345 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: have an example to point to. 346 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: And so this is something a dream that I. 347 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: Always had, but like, could me and being myself prevent 348 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: me from having that dream? 349 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: And that was a worry that I always had. And 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: so that's why today I would say chill out. 351 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think that's something a lot 352 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: of us go through when we're figuring out who we are. 353 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: And I felt variations of that for sure, And I 354 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: love how emotionally you got talking about that because it's 355 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: still something that I think. I think we always have 356 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: to remind ourselves because we so believe that growing up. Yeah, 357 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: So even like as a almost forty year old man, 358 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: it's like you sometimes got to tell yourself that you. 359 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Know, well, that person is still inside all of us. 360 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Like we constantly have to talk to that 361 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: little kid inside because they're there. They are a part 362 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: of us. 363 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: They they were there through the most monumental parts of 364 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: our lives. Yeah, and they're still there. 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, that little kid would be 366 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: very proud of you. I certainly am. I'm blown away 367 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: by what you've achieved in the course of your life, 368 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: seemingly very quickly, and it's all deserved. You work your 369 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: ass off to be where you are in this point 370 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: of your career in your life, and I look at 371 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: you and I'm like, Wow, I'm inspired by you, Like 372 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: you're someone who I am. I am like I just 373 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: over the years I have been And success is something 374 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: many of us dream of in different capacities and many 375 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: of us wants and we have dreams and goals and 376 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: ambitions personally and professionally. And you look at someone like 377 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: you and you're kind of the idea of success. You're 378 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: doing it, you're doing a job. So many people want 379 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: do you view yourself as successful and what's your relationship 380 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: like with that? 381 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: Well, my definition of success is not necessarily professional. My 382 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: definition of success is being able to be present in 383 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: the moment, right because what good is it having a 384 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: great job if you're not present for it and you're 385 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: constantly wanting more. You're constantly in this mode of seeking, seeking, seeking, seeking, seeking, 386 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: And I think we all find ourselves in that. So 387 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: my and I think I'm working on that success. By 388 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: the way, I think we all are still working on 389 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: that success. I think it's very very hard. So that's 390 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: really my definition of success, that it's not necessarily professional, 391 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: you know. I think, of course there's a certain level 392 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: of professional success, but I think that it's something that 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: it's more of a mindset. I think success is more 394 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: of a mindset. 395 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: So have your priorities shifted over the years given that definition. 396 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? 397 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: You know? Because yeah, we we we all see with 398 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: everything going on in the world. There's there's so much 399 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: going on in the world. There are so many different people, 400 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: and I look to my. 401 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 2: Mom, and my mom is so present, She's incredibly present, 402 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: and I see that as an incredible example of success, right, 403 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 2: And and that's something that I think we all need 404 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: to keep in mind. 405 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think you and 406 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: I have really been working on that the last last year, 407 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I'll say. And it doesn't mean you don't have ambitions 408 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and dreams and hopes and want to work hard and 409 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: achieve things professionally, but it also means knowing that that 410 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: doesn't totally define you. And we're so much more than 411 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: our jobs. 412 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a piece of you, and it's a big 413 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: piece of you. 414 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 3: Right. 415 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: You spend more time there sometimes than at home, So 416 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: it's a big piece of you. 417 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: And it's important that you're happy when you're doing it. 418 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: But there's so much to life, and that's that's just 419 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: that's that's not the only piece. There's so much to life. 420 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: Is there anything you want to let go of as 421 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: you enter this new decade? 422 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: Fear? Fear? 423 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Is that possible? 424 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm putting it out 425 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: there to see if it is maybe it's not. Yeah, 426 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: but I think that we all have fear. 427 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: Right. I look at that, and I said, Okay, well 428 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm turning forty. Does that mean I'm like halfway through 429 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: this thing called life? 430 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: Like, what does it mean? I don't know. I don't know. 431 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that about dying. 432 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm just saying, like, well, I mean, 433 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: you basically just said you thought about dying. 434 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: I know. Well, look, I think that I think that 435 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: that's a really good meditation on life, right thinking Memento morys. 436 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: That's an ancient stoic you know, point of view that 437 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: you're you sort of like meditate on death. 438 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: Right. 439 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: But I think that when you reach forty, I don't know, 440 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: like the number. I know, we say that the age 441 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: doesn't matter, but like we are living, breathing beings and 442 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: human beings, and you know, things stop working, and you know, 443 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: I'm going for a cardiologist examination today just to check 444 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: things out to make sure everything's okay. Like, I don't know, 445 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: like these are things that you think about, and so 446 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: that's something that I think about. 447 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: What was your question? I don't know, because now I'm 448 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: worried that you have death thoughts like, so, I don't 449 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: even know. I'm a little frazzled right now. I didn't 450 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: know that. Oh my god, I've never said it. Well, 451 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: maybe I'm. 452 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: Gonna have to. We got there before the end of 453 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: the show. 454 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, Well we're gonna make sure you don't feel 455 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: like the road is near, the end is near. I 456 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: should say, okay, I'm gonna pivot. No, but I get 457 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: what you mean. I totally get what you mean. You 458 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: just think about life in a different perspective, because you're 459 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: also probably like, how the heck did forty years pass? 460 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, how did I get here? 461 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm eighteen still, I. 462 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: Can't believe it's just days away. I'm like, how did 463 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: I get Well? Right in my head, I'm still thinking, yeah, well, 464 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: your dad. Your dad's in his seventies, and he's like, 465 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm sixteen. 466 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So I don't know if you ever get 467 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: through that. 468 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but oh oh, I know what it was you 469 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: were saying about let go of fear, and so letting 470 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: go of fear is super important to me. But I 471 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: don't know if it's possible. But I think that there's 472 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: you always have a fear of the unknown, right, what 473 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: comes next? 474 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: That's true, very very true. So given that you are 475 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: thinking a lot about all of this, and it's a 476 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: new chapter for you and you're reflecting back on what 477 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: you've built professionally and where you are personally, what kind 478 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: of legacy do you hope to leave this world? 479 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: A legacy of kindness? Yeah, kindness is I love? That's 480 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: that's what I think about, right. I think we all 481 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: just need to be kind to each other, right like this, 482 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: this should all be about love, love in all forms, and. 483 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: So so you know, for me, that's that's what I'm 484 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: thinking about. A lot is like, Okay, how do I 485 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: be kind as kind as I can be? 486 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: Right? 487 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: And look, there's always conversations. 488 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: That are tough with different people in this and that 489 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: and whatever, friends, this, you know, family, But if we 490 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: have kindness and love as the base, I think we 491 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: can get a lot farther than otherwise. 492 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. I 493 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: couldn't have you on the show today without having some 494 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: fan questions for an n oh boy, and this is 495 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: I kind of love these I went through them. There 496 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: were some wild ones in there. I was like, oohn, 497 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: not asking that one, But there are some really cool 498 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: ones that I think. You know, we don't do a lot. 499 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: I'll be the judge of that. Okay, Relax, we don't 500 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: do a lot together publicly in terms of interviews. So 501 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: I think it's fun for people to kind of get 502 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: at insight into us and our dynamics and our relationships. 503 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: So I picked a few that I thought were really 504 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: really good. So Alison s nine three to know who 505 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: asked who out and what were the first impressions of 506 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: each other? 507 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, this is this is a big debate. This is 508 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: a big debate. 509 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: Humor me, please, okay, Uh, you followed me on Instagram, right, 510 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: I messaged you first? 511 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't. I followed you back. I liked 512 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: a few posts, and then you messaged me. 513 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Yep, you don't like a few posts you liked like 514 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: the only twelve I had up on my account. 515 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Whatever. 516 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just to make it clear, it was like. 517 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: Like like like like like you know, okay, you know, 518 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure you saw it, okay. 519 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: And then you were the first to write, and I 520 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: think it said thanks for the ad, Stay warm out 521 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: there because I was out covering something in cold weather. 522 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: And that's that was kind of it, right, And then 523 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: that was it. 524 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: So you well, so you're saying I asked you out. 525 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: No, I guess you didn't know, because then I sent 526 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: my phone number. 527 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and then said I would love to hang out 528 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: some time. Here is my number. I sent mine, and 529 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: then and you texted me for a week trying to 530 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: hang out. Yeah, And I was busy for that week, 531 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: had a lot going on. And then we finally met up. 532 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: So you asked me out. And first impression, it was 533 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a week. It was, yes, it was a week, and 534 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: then we met up. And first impressions, first impressions, gosh, 535 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I just remember. 536 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: What that was my first impression. 537 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm tall. 538 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're taller than me. 539 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I knew that. 540 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's the first thing I said. 541 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Oh you did say that. 542 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: You walked out of the subway. I saw you in 543 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: the street and I was like, oh, you're taller than me. 544 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I mean my first impression was a little 545 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: more like, oh wow, Like after our date, I kind 546 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: of like this dude, and you know, I don't want 547 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to like someone, but I do, and yours was that 548 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm tall. Oh God, here we go again. I know, 549 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: I know you did not think that. Well, the rest 550 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: is history, okay, so pri uh, I get the Pria says, 551 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: I get the impression that you two are really content 552 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: with your lives and it's very motivating. Any secret, any secret? 553 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, if there's any secret. I think we have fun, right, 554 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: like we're best friends first. Yeah, I think we just 555 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: like we have fun. 556 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 557 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: I think that when you go home, it shouldn't be 558 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: a time for like yelling at each other or being 559 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: angry at each other. 560 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a lot of that going out 561 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: all around the world. Like home should be a sanctuary, 562 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: and so I think that that's really really important. I 563 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: know that one of the things you always say is 564 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: a secret is don't go to bed angry. 565 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah, and let's kind of try it. And true. 566 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: I think for us too, it's it's we don't take 567 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: ourselves too seriously, and we have such a level of 568 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: respect for each other, and we genuinely like champion each 569 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: other in all areas of life total and not just professionally, 570 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: like you have a hobby you want to do. I'm like, 571 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: great do it like like we just we really we 572 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: have that got to support each other. Yeah, and we 573 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: surround ourselves with good like minded people too. Yeah. I 574 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: think that's also super import huge. Hannah Spears, what is 575 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: the secret to a long relationship and happy marriage? I 576 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: cannot tell you how many of these came in, like 577 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: a million. 578 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, so we'll be. 579 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I think part of it is what we 580 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: just discussed, right, like the having fun part, the respect part, 581 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: the all of those things. You know, we try to 582 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: keep things interesting and go like on on a trip 583 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: where like can we rent a car and just drive somewhere? 584 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: Can we you know, all of that, especially remember during 585 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: the pandemic we did that a ton. Yeah, where it's 586 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: like just kind of change your environment a little bit 587 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: and you know, anything you can, but just like go 588 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: explore together. Exploring is so great, Just like get in 589 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: the car and just go somewhere, go to some great 590 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: park and whatever it is, and we want a trip. 591 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, and it'll be ten years married in April. And 592 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I also think choosing someone or finding someone that's like 593 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: minded is very important because we're growing together. Yeah, we 594 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: haven't grown a part in ten years, if anything, we've 595 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: grown closer together, which is not easy to do, and 596 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: that's not always the norm. But we both have very 597 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: similar values and like mindedness and want the same things 598 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: out of life. And I think that's a huge thing, huge, huge, 599 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: huge thing. So that's it's important to find that in somebody. Okay, 600 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: a few more, Emily B I love this, Emily. What 601 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: is a quirk each other has at home that drives 602 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: you each crazy but also makes you smile? I know 603 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: yours right away. 604 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: Can you just squeeze the toothpaste in a more like 605 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: even manner, Like you squeeze it in the middle, and 606 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: it looks like deformed. When you open the mail, it's 607 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: also kind of deformed. 608 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say that. I knew 609 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: you were going to say that you're always on me 610 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: because I'm what do you call me? Brute force? And 611 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: I open things like an animal, whether it's like the 612 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: top of us, it's just a letter. It's hard to 613 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: open a letter. 614 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: Open the letter and it's just like ripped open, like 615 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: a came and attacked the letter. It's very hard to 616 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: open a letter. I don't have nails, Like, what do 617 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: you want me to do? Okay, Okay, well that's yours. 618 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: I knew you were going to say that you love 619 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: to open a cabinet where like the coffee mugs are 620 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: and leave it open. And then if I'm like across 621 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: the room watching a show or like on my computer, 622 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: I see it out of the corner of my eye 623 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: and it drives me so crazy. And then the funny 624 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: thing is you're still standing in the kitchen where the 625 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: cabinet's opened. 626 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Oh, but I'll walk away in the cabinet still. 627 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, And then you'll walk away, and I'm like, I 628 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: don't understand, Like when you take something out, like a 629 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: plate or a mug, why don't you just shut the cabinet? 630 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: You know, that's a very good process that you go 631 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: through mentally. I don't know if I do. 632 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't think to just close 633 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: the cabinet. 634 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, just like, well, what really will make me 635 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: combus is then you'll open You'll get like a mug 636 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: out for your coffee, and then you'll go across the 637 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: kitchen and open another cabinet to get a snack out. 638 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: And then both of the doors are open and I 639 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: can't concentrate on any. 640 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: And it's even right, because you have two open on easing. 641 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: Now and I am so type A I cannot concentrate 642 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: on anything until they are shut. So that's probably Emily B. 643 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Those are the quirks that clearly we uh, you. 644 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: Know, open the cabinet and then my mind goes somewhere else, 645 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: like squirrel, right Like I just open it and then 646 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: my mind somewhere else. 647 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go with that. We'll go with that. It's 648 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: a war works in progress in some ways still, so 649 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: we'll go with that. We have two more see it 650 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: to believe it, wrote in how do you overcome disagreements? 651 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: I mean talking through them, right, like, don't letting don't 652 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: let them fester, Like we talk through any disagreements. Don't 653 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: let it get to the point where it turns into 654 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: a fight, right right, Like if there's a disagreement, you 655 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: calmly explain why there's a disagreement and you get through it. 656 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we nip it right away. Yeah, like we we 657 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: handle whatever the disagreement is kind of right then and there, 658 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: and even if it takes a little time to work through, 659 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: we do. We don't like revisit it the next day 660 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: or two days later or you know, one's on the couch, 661 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: ones on bed, in the bed, like we've never done that, 662 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: Like we just kind of address it. But I also 663 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: think you and I are ou dramatic people, and like 664 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: we don't thrive in drama and we don't want it, 665 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: so you know, we we tend to try to work 666 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: through things, not just between us, but even with a friend, 667 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: like right away, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not into it. 668 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: We don't like the drama. No, don't like the DR's 669 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: Mary J. Bliche, it's right, no more drama. 670 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: The cabinet thing, like the moment like you say something 671 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: about the cabinet, I go and I close it, like 672 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. Right, it doesn't turn into 673 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: the thing. 674 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: And it's not always right away but quickly enough. 675 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go with that. 676 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Moving on Mark seven eight to final question, does it 677 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: ever feel heavy for you both being in the new 678 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: cycle twenty four to seven? You kind of answered this earlier. 679 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I try. I definitely try not to be 680 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: in the news cycle twenty four to seven. Like I definitely, 681 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: I think it's really important to go and do things 682 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: that you want to do that you know, by the way, 683 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: I don't think that's exclusive to journalists, right. I think 684 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: that we are all being hit with headlines constantly on 685 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: the phone. You know, the moment you turn on any device, 686 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: you're seeing headlines, right. So I think it's important to 687 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: live your life and you know, don't don't live on 688 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: social media, try not to live on social media. 689 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: I think that that's one of the. 690 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: Bigger crises of our time, is living in social media, 691 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: live out in the world, and the world happens around you, 692 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: of course, and you should be informed, and I hope 693 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: that you're tuning in and watching and learning and understanding 694 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: what's happening in the world, but also make time for yourself, 695 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: you know. 696 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: I think that's really critical. 697 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree one hundred percent. I cover entertainment 698 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: news for a living, so I'm not in like the 699 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: hard news cycle, but by default, through our marriage and 700 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: our relationship, I am like it's always around me, and. 701 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: Because the moment I find something out, I'm like, oh 702 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: my god, did you hear that? 703 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: Right, So I'm always innodated with news and I've had 704 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: to take a little bit of a step back lately 705 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: myself over the last year. Whereas I used to watch 706 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: like the full shows that you're on, and now I 707 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: just kind of tune in for your story because I 708 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: just can't like be in it all the time. Like 709 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot, and I think that we 710 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: have to make decisions to, like, you know, protect our 711 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: peace sometimes. And I wouldn't feel that way if I 712 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: wasn't married to you, because I've heard everything already by 713 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: the time the show's ends. 714 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, but it's kind of funny because you do. 715 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes you'll like send a message and you'll be like, 716 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I really want to watch, but I 717 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: really need to go to the gym, and I'm like, 718 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: I get it. 719 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: No, because I feel guilty if I don't watch you 720 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: ten years in I'm like, oh my god, I'm missing 721 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: one of his stories and I feel guilty. I'm like, 722 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: you're a number one fan. 723 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: I want to watching it anyway. 724 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, true, that's true. Afterwards, true and if I miss it, 725 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: you do send it to me too to watch, so 726 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I kind of have to watch it. So yeah, that's 727 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: true too. A lot of people want to know why 728 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: I haven't had you on the show yet and what 729 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: took me so long. People are literally like, I don't 730 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: get it. Why is why has he not been on. 731 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Why wasn't he one of your first guests? And the 732 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: truth is you have a lot of anxiety doing longer 733 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: form podcasts. Yeah, and you were never dying to do it, 734 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: and I never pressed it and wanted to force you 735 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: to do it. And I think it's I also. 736 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 2: Think that there are other people who have more interesting 737 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: things to say. 738 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I disagree. I think you're You're extremely interesting and 739 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: fascinating and I've wanted you on for a while. But 740 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: then when I pitched this to you, I said, look, 741 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: it's a very pivotal time in your life. 742 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't think you asked I mean, I did not 743 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: ask a question. 744 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: It was a statement I just said in a period 745 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: At the end, I just said, wouldn't be really fun 746 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: to come on for your birthday? Yeah? I did do 747 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: that really quickly so you couldn't back out. Did you 748 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: try to back out? 749 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: Well, I jokingly said, I was canceling to you. 750 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: I know about what percentage of like truth was that? 751 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: Oh? 752 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: Zero percentage? 753 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: Ah? Good good, Well, I'm glad you're here. And as 754 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, the final question of this interview is based 755 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: off the title of the show, YEP, So what is 756 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: something that you've never said before that you want to 757 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: say today publicly. 758 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: Well, I've you know this, But I am an extreme introvert, yes, 759 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: which makes this very difficult. And I know that the 760 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: world sees an extrovert, but I am an introvert. 761 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: Because you are hiddy and smiley and laughing every day 762 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: on air and you're wrangling the troops and you're yeah, 763 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean you would you present as an extrovert. 764 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: But definitely not. 765 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: And if I'm at a party, I'd much rather be 766 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: the guy in the corner just chilling watching everybody, maybe 767 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: do dance a little bit. But that's kind of like 768 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: where I go. You've broken me out of that show 769 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: because you're an extra through and through, Like you're nowhere 770 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 3: near being an introvert. 771 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: You're just like all out there, all out there. 772 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're giving manic energy right now. I'm 773 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: not sure, but you're just like, Okay, I mean, I'm social. 774 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what social. Okay, maybe that's yeah, I don't. 775 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: Try out there means but like I'm a social person. 776 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 777 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you've you've got that and I didn't have that. 778 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: That's true, But you've gotten better, I have. You've gotten better. 779 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: First of all, there's nothing wrong with an introvert, So 780 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 2: it's not about being better. 781 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: Well, no, you've gotten more outgoing, I feel like more. 782 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I've you still prefer to. 783 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: Be home on the couch. 784 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: I love it. I know so much. I know so much. 785 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: You also like when it's a dark at four forty five. 786 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: That is very introvert of you. That's a very introvert. 787 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: Love it. 788 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were at the Critics' Choice 789 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Awards and it was the first year we went last 790 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: year and we walked in the stroom and there's like 791 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people and we don't really know anyone. 792 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: And I'm invited because I'm a member of the voting committee. 793 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: And we walk in and You're like, okay, so should 794 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: we just kind of like stand over? Then I'm like, 795 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: hell no, We're gonna grab a drink and walk around 796 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: the entire room and see who's here and who we 797 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: can talk to and mingle. And you were like why. 798 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: I was like, can't we find the little buffet table 799 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: and like eat that? 800 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: And I said, absolutely not. No, that is a good 801 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: definition of you, and I introvert. You do love food, 802 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: food more than you do. I mean, I enjoy food, 803 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: but I guess you're more of a foodie. Yeah, for sure, 804 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 1: I like to snack more. You do like to snack more? 805 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: You do? You do? 806 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: And you get very angry. 807 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, headaches the whole thing. 808 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, introvert, extrovert. I love that getting cut out. No, 809 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: nothing's getting cut out. This is unedited, unfiltered. But I 810 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: do think people would be very surprised to know that 811 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: about you. So I do love that. And one of 812 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: the biggest comments people make to me and online it's like, 813 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, Geo, his smile it's so bright and 814 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: he's so friendly and so outgoing, which is all true, 815 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: but you are aren't always that way outside of work, 816 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: like you rather be more to yourself. 817 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: Yes, but the smile always. 818 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: Smiles always, and you've gotten that from your mom. She's 819 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: got the best thing. 820 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: She taught me how to smile, She really taught. 821 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: Me, and you look like her when you do it. 822 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's just really it's really important. 823 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: And I've gotten that comment about like, why are you 824 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: smiling so much? 825 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: Isn't that ridiculous that people are have been angry that 826 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: you smiled too much. 827 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, and by the way I felt 828 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: when I was younger, I felt like I had to 829 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 3: sort of mute the smile and sort of like, Okay, well, 830 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: no I can't smile. I gotta be a little more serious. 831 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 3: But you know what, there's not enough smiles out there, 832 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: so let's smile. 833 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: Well, I am smiling so hard because you finally did 834 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: my show. How do you feel? Are you freaking out? 835 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 2: I can't believe it? 836 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 837 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not nervous anymore. But that's because we reaching 838 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 2: the end. 839 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: We're done. But that's good. I guess do you remember 840 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: anything you said today? 841 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: Nah? 842 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm proud of you for coming on and 843 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: stepping outside of your comfort zone. And I am glad 844 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: that the world will see a little glimpse into who 845 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: you are beyond just what they see on TV. I've 846 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: known this for ten years now, but I'm happy to 847 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: show the world all the things I love about you. 848 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you too. 849 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. Go close the cabinets when we 850 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: get home. Thank you, they're open. 851 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 852 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dederio. 853 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 854 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 855 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 856 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate, review and 857 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 858 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dederio.