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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan in

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and training camp has begun. Veterans

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Speaker 1: report today and the first practice is tomorrow. So definitely

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Speaker 1: a fun time here at the under Armed Performance Center

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Speaker 1: and we're getting ready for what we all expect to

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Speaker 1: be a very fun season. This is a loaded squad,

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about all summer long. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: been tuned in and you're just like, all right, raven

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Speaker 1: season is starting. You're coming back for the first time. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Yes, nice to have you. Where have you been?

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Speaker 1: And then also like this team is really good. This

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Speaker 1: is a loaded Ravens team, and to have the kind

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Speaker 1: of special season that we all think can certainly happen,

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Speaker 1: it starts in training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two things on that.

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Speaker 3: I just feel more conversation around football as teams have

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Speaker 3: returned for training camp and there's more excitement building. You

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Speaker 3: get to this point late July August, and like everyone

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Speaker 3: starts getting excited about football, fantasy football conversation starts. You

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Speaker 3: have just more conversation in the world about football beginning,

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Speaker 3: and it's exciting, and I think.

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Speaker 1: The conversation never really leaves football, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: It never totally stops.

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Speaker 3: But like once you get into July and you start

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Speaker 3: feeling the teams are back at practice and you start

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Speaker 3: seeing those clips and you start there's more press conferences,

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Speaker 3: like you just feel like, Okay, now.

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Speaker 1: It's go time.

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Speaker 3: And the other piece too. And I'll be curious what

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Speaker 3: you think about this? To me, when I look at

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Speaker 3: this team and there's a conversation about you just made

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Speaker 3: it like this team should be really good, it should

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Speaker 3: be a really fun season, and I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 3: More than like any year that I remember. It just

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Speaker 3: feels like there's just this belief that this team is

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Speaker 3: the same thing a year ago when the Ravens made

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Speaker 3: the AFC Championship in twenty twenty three. But honestly, a

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Speaker 3: lot of the commonversation that year was you lost so

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Speaker 3: many coaches, You lost so many it was like the turnover,

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Speaker 3: there's so much, there's so much change with the team

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it was insensively, like are you going to

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Speaker 1: be able to get back to that level? I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any question this offseason about the level that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens can get.

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Speaker 3: To right now, it seems like the conversation is more

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Speaker 3: this roster stack. You've added super talented veterans like DeAndre

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Speaker 2: You've been able.

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Speaker 3: To just keep players who we had questions about this offseason.

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Speaker 3: But but pretty much everybody is back from a year

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Speaker 3: ago and so and then you add in these other places,

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Speaker 3: like players like Hopkins and Jaii Alexander, and the.

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Speaker 1: Ref's largely intact. You made some good some big addition

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just feels like, more than any year

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Speaker 3: that I remember in certainly recent history, there's just this

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Speaker 3: I think there's belief amongst fans and the players that

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Speaker 3: it's a season where there's a lot of confidence going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree. And as we start training camp. The

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Speaker 1: funny thing is in the conversation that we're kind of

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Speaker 1: That's the big question. They've been had. Some of the

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Speaker 1: that has happened. And the question, you know, as much

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Speaker 1: Well that's still months and months away. Right we're kicking

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Speaker 1: off training camp, but that will be the storyline throughout

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Speaker 1: so Garrett, as we here with training camp opening, what's

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot to unpack with like that question,

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Speaker 3: I think that the Ravens are good enough. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: Should we believe you this time? Right? Well?

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Speaker 3: I think that, Like I don't think just as I

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Speaker 3: certain things happened, and like I don't think that there

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Speaker 3: in those games, the games played out the way they

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Speaker 1: At the majority of them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe like six four, But both those teams were

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Speaker 3: like I think the Ravens were ready to be there

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Speaker 3: the Ravens have had too many critical mistakes in playoff losses,

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Speaker 3: past several years in the playoffs, to be honest, if

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Speaker 3: I think that the Ravens could win every game they'd

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Speaker 1: I thought you were just going to stop at every

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Speaker 1: game they play. That would pretty awesome. That would come

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Speaker 1: back to my undefeated season prediction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Back on the schedule release, all right, So I like

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Speaker 1: the sounds of that. Let's dive into some of the things,

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Speaker 1: well the other thing to the other thing too, before

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Speaker 1: curious to see what we hear from players.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start to hear from players today and tomorrow

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Speaker 2: And I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think I think basically every player that talks with

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Speaker 3: What's it going to take to do that? And I'll

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Speaker 3: be interested to see what players have to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm also interested in hearing from them. Like the

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Speaker 1: expectations as we're talking about are sky high. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And it's I mean I remember people being like it's

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Speaker 1: which is crazy, but like this year, there that does

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Speaker 1: and maybe this is a year where Lamar Jackson, you know,

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Speaker 1: how how do you handle being the favorite? Yeah, it'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be I do wonder what players will say

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Speaker 3: to that. And I do actually think that this team.

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Speaker 3: I think that most fan bases like the underdog role.

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Speaker 3: do think that, like even in games like, the Ravens

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Speaker 3: But they've also had these seasons with Lamar quarterback where

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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, now we'll get into the incurty here

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Speaker 1: and talk about First of all, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about kind of a checklist of things that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: first of all, everybody thinks about the position battles, not

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Speaker 1: fifty three. And it's gonna be really tough in terms

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Speaker 1: gonna be tight. And then in terms of starting positions,

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Speaker 1: And so but that will be what we're all out there,

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Speaker 3: Oh it's how many games have the Ravens won based

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Speaker 1: And you definitely can't lose games because of it. I understand,

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Speaker 2: You got it.

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Speaker 3: There's a certain level of an expectation that's what you

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Speaker 3: need to do. Absolutely, And I think both those guys

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Speaker 1: And they're talented enough to meet it.

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Speaker 1: And if it's not in like preseason games, then they'll

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Speaker 3: I think that's like the conversation that we'll be having

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he's hitting game winning you know, kicks in the

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Speaker 1: I don't think that people came away from Justin Tucker's

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Speaker 3: about him as being a really good pickup quality player

437
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: who's played a ton of big games and knows the

438
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 3: AFC North. Like I still think that he could be

439
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: a really important piece for this team. So like, I

440
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a good player, you know,

441
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 3: for sure.

442
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: I think if you're counting on all your cornerbacks to

443
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Speaker 1: stay healthy for all seventeen games of this season. That

444
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: it's fools gold. Yeah, like it's just not really of six.

445
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Cheetoh will play some meaningful snaps

446
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah.

447
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 3: So I think that the secondary is gonna definitely be

448
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 3: one to watch. I think it's honestly a little bit

449
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: difficult until you get into game action to get a good,

450
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: great sense of like houses group meshing.

451
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 1: You well yeah yeah, so on that that front, correct,

452
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you do get a better sense

453
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: in training camp, like they're more competitive against the wide

454
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: receivers than what we saw during OTA's mini camp, or

455
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: they're pulling off and you're not really challenging the ball,

456
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna see this secondary kind of get to

457
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: get it swagger, you know, Like there's gonna be days

458
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: in camp practice where we're gonna have like multiple interceptions

459
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say, man, this secondary is just really

460
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: swaggy right now. But maybe I'll be the only one

461
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: saying that.

462
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here doing the seat belt. Oh yeah you.

463
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: Boxes thumbs down. Yeah, Like there's gonna be days like

464
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Speaker 1: that the training camp. And on one hand, I'm kind

465
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: of really excited to see this. Is it's only for

466
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: the past.

467
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: That's always that's always a challenge. It's like is that

468
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: a good or bad thing?

469
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I want to see I want to

470
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: see this secondary and I want to see the defense

471
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: as a whole, get back to that kind of like

472
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: swagger like Marlon Humphrey talked about during mini camp. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: and and I think that that kind of that can

474
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Speaker 1: build during training camp, Like you feel that coming on

475
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: when you're watching every single practice, like we will be

476
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: and uh, that's I'm excited. And it also it goes

477
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: into the turnovers. You know that's been a drum that

478
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: they've been banging all off season, is we have to

479
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: get more turnovers, Like, so do we see that in

480
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: training camp practice?

481
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Speaker 3: That's something I want to I would like to see.

482
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: I would like to see more takeaways. Of course in games,

483
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: that's the way to put it.

484
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Speaker 1: In training camp, I'd like to see take I don't

485
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: want to see turnovers, but I would like to see takeaways.

486
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it's always that's been on. I want to see takeaways.

487
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: I think this defense and like to your to the

488
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: point like you feel a little bit better if it's

489
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: the defense coming up with takeaways against the second string offense.

490
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: So like that's that's where you feel better about what

491
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: you're talking about.

492
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: But there's also as a defense, they don't feel as

493
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Speaker 1: good all them are.

494
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanted a little bit of a mix of

495
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: everything on like on that front. And I'll be honest, like,

496
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: if I went back to last year's training camp, I

497
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: don't think I came out of it feeling like, oh man,

498
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: the secondary is going to be a problem, Like I

499
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: was concerned about the secondary. I didn't come out of

500
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: that feeling that way. But I just think that you

501
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: can get a sense of how the group, how the

502
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: group is going to be used, And then to your point,

503
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: are they entering the season with that confidence, Like Marlin

504
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: has talked about this a few times, like feeling like

505
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: when he got here it was a defensive team and

506
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 3: it's shifted in that sense, and so can the Ravens

507
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: kind of regained some of that confidence as a secondary

508
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: and as a defense. That is something that can be

509
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: built over the course of camp.

510
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: Then I think the other storyline for me is this

511
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: is the number one offense in the league last year,

512
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: So can you play at that high of a level

513
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: again or even better. And so when you look at

514
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: where can the Ravens be better offensively, I think part

515
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: of it is just like operation avoiding penalties. That was

516
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: one thing that we talked about a lot last season

517
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: during the course of the seasons, like, man if the

518
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: Ravens just stopped shooting themselves in the foot penalty wise,

519
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: specifically because turrivers really weren't a problem. Lamar did a

520
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: great job protecting football, making good decisions. It wasn't like

521
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: fumbles were a huge issue. It's penalties, and so if

522
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Speaker 1: the offense can clean that stuff up, it's going to

523
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: be even better than it was potentially. Yeah, and so

524
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: I think that that will be another storyline and thing

525
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: to watch during training camp.

526
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the offense, it's hard to really think like they

527
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: didn't just do what they did last year because it

528
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: was a historic season, Like I don't want to gloss

529
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: over that, like last year's offensive performance was historically good.

530
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: But I also don't see areas where the Ravens got weaker.

531
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Speaker 3: The onlys was at was at left guard. Pat McCarey

532
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: left in free agency. But when you consider like, okay,

533
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: now you insert let's say Andrew Voorhees, that's one of

534
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: the competitions.

535
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Speaker 1: Well, let's also just like Pat's a really good player,

536
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: but he was like the Ravens sixth man for a

537
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: long time he was.

538
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: And also like so like Roger roseen Garden who stepped

539
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: in ultimately as a starter at right tackle when when

540
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: McCarey went to left guard from right tackle. Now he's

541
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 3: going into his second season, he should be better than

542
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: he was at the start of last year. Better, Like

543
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: could the offensive line just be status quo?

544
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Speaker 2: If that's okay?

545
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: So if the offensive line is better, I think the

546
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: receiving game could be even better.

547
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: Now you had DeAndre Hopkins to the mix.

548
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: The tight ends are the exact same, I think likely

549
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 3: could only end up getting better. I think Mark Andrews,

550
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: who was banged up early last season, who got really

551
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: got better over the course of the year. I think

552
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: he the tight end group could be better. So it's

553
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: like and then running game, I think you could continue.

554
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: It's hard to see another nineteen hundred yard season. But

555
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: but Derek Henry has a cameo in the next Adam

556
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: Sandley movie on the line for two thousand yards, so

557
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: he's going to be more motivated than ever. But Keith Mitchell,

558
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: Keith Mitchell's back.

559
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: I mean the person didn't mention is Lamar, right, I

560
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: mean Lamar had a historically good season. That's in large

561
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Speaker 1: part why the Ravens had a historically good offensive season.

562
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Speaker 1: So can Lamar repeat? You know, can he can he

563
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: play at that high of a level. Again, it's hard

564
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: played extremely well, but that's going to be the biggest,

565
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest factor in whether the Ravens offense

566
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Speaker 1: is just as good as it was that last year,

567
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: if not better? Do you think that? And the nitty

568
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: gritty of it, I think is the penalties, like I

569
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: was talking about, that's like one thing that you can

570
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: definitely put your finger on and say, like if we

571
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Speaker 1: attack this in training camp to the point of like

572
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: this is on the to do list. I think offensive

573
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: penalties and erasing those You're never gonna get rid of

574
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: them completely, yeah, but minimizing those, I should say, is

575
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: on the to do list during training camp.

576
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Speaker 3: Do you think, what do you think the likelihood of

577
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Henry hitting two thousand yards is tough? I mean, that's

578
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: a huge numb but it's like he goes over nineteen

579
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 3: hundred yards last year in Saquon tops two thousand and

580
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: now we're talking about two thousand yards like like it's

581
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: it's just running the mill stats over here.

582
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's tough. It's tough. I don't I don't

583
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: think like Derrick Henry. I don't think because he's your

584
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: older that he's any worse of a player. I'm not.

585
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm not buying into that. I've fallen into that trap.

586
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Guy is you know, freakiously different as an athlete and

587
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: so uh but like I mean, even over the course

588
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: of Derrick Henry's illustrious, you know, maybe future Hall of

589
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Fame career, he has had me seasons like he did

590
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: last year. So it's gonna be tough. And whether you

591
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: know with DeAndre with di Hot, do they do they

592
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: lean a little bit, a little bit more passing throwing

593
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit even more than they did

594
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: last year? I don't know. Yeah, you know, does he

595
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: have as many eighty yard runs as he did last

596
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: year or you know, off the top of my head

597
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: you can think of multiple you know, I don't know.

598
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: It's tough to have that many long runs big plays, right, Yeah,

599
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: the big play like that is is hard to come

600
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: by for a million different reasons.

601
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: But I think that Henry is gonna I honestly think

602
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: whether he hits two thousand or not, I think when

603
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: you look at his yards per carry, I think it's

604
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: gonna be in the same ballpark of where it was

605
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: last year.

606
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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be.

607
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: As I think he's going to be similarly productive as

608
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 3: he was this year. And and when I look at

609
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: the offense, like where is the where are the the

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: opportunities for growth?

611
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Speaker 2: I think that it's like I could make the case.

612
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: Honestly, I could go down the line and be like,

613
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: I think Bateman could take an even bigger step. He

614
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: was really productive in the red zone last year, but

615
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I think that he could see more catches and more

616
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: see more targets, more catches, put up more yards. I

617
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: think he could be hovering around one thousand.

618
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: I think Say.

619
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Speaker 3: Flowers, who topped one thousand was a pro bowler last year,

620
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: could take an even bigger step. Bateman told us like,

621
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: say Flowers on a lot of teams could have a

622
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: thirteen hundred yard season, and that is a realistic thing

623
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Speaker 3: that he could do. I don't think he's going to

624
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: have thirteen hundred yards in this offense with all the

625
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: other weapons, But could he have twelve?

626
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Could he have eleven hundred?

627
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Maybe?

628
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: Could Isaiah likely put himself in that conversation of like, man,

629
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: this guy's one of the most dangerous tight ends in

630
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: the game. I think he has that kind of ability.

631
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: And Mark Andrews could just keep catching touchdowns like every

632
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: game like he did at the end of last season.

633
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: So I don't like I could I could talk myself

634
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: into the growth opportunities for a lot of different guys.

635
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: You're not going to see that across the board, but

636
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: I think that all all those different players have a

637
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: pretty good case as to why they could elevate their

638
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: game to another level.

639
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: One the other big storyline of every single training camp

640
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: is how healthy can you stay? Yeah, of course that

641
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: is the big, big factor in all of these conversations.

642
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: And you know, the Ravens, as we well know, have

643
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: had tough training camp years, and they've had really great

644
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: ones like they did last year. And I think generally

645
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: like they have a good plan and a good attack,

646
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: and you know, some of that is luck and some

647
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: of it is uh, you know, rehab and preparation and

648
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning and all that, and I think the

649
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Ravens have an awesome program that helps them avoid those,

650
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: but you just never know. Some of it is just

651
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: bad luck. And so like that is a major component

652
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: of training camp. And we talk about you know, you're

653
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: talking about Bateman taking another steps, Like last year, we

654
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: were all like, can he stay healthy? He's got to

655
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Speaker 1: do that again? All right? Can jaire Alexander and all

656
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Speaker 1: these other guys that have been banged up by injuries, Like,

657
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Speaker 1: can they all stay healthy? Like I think if I

658
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Speaker 1: think if the Ravens stay healthy throughout training camp and

659
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Speaker 1: then throughout the season for the most part healthy, Yeah,

660
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Speaker 1: there's no there ain't gonna be stopped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no there's no limits how good this team

662
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Speaker 2: could be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then those guys, all those guys you're talking about

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Speaker 1: making a jump and all that, like it's possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna take a quick break here when we

667
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Speaker 3: come back, we're gonna dive into some of the key

668
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Speaker 3: players that we are gonna be watching very closely.

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Speaker 2: And this year's camp.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the last podcast, We're coming to you

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Speaker 3: from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention our

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Speaker 3: Crown is yours. So, who's number one on your list

675
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Speaker 3: of players to watch in this year's camp?

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm putting you on the spot number one on

677
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Speaker 1: my list right now players to watch. I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I mean the kickers. I mean, as I said, that's

679
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Speaker 1: that's what everybody's watching. Loop Tyler. Loop is probably at

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Speaker 1: the top of my list.

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Speaker 3: Not one of the not one of the the guys

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Speaker 3: that you talk about, like Gruden Grinder, I love French.

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Speaker 1: Andrew into my head, but I didn't want to hear this.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear and you pick a kicker like

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Speaker 3: that's your number one, But I didn't even say it.

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Speaker 1: All right, fine, you know what, I'll lean into it. Oh,

687
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Speaker 1: Gruden Grinder, I'm watching the trenches.

688
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Speaker 2: Yea Andrew Moore or he's your number one guy?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Uh you know me, I like, I like flashy.

691
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Speaker 3: Uh so I'm gonna go I'll give you one on

692
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Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. Actually, okay, and similar stories. Uh,

693
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Speaker 3: veteran players. I want to see Jay Alexander I'm pumped

694
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Speaker 3: to see him. Haven't seen him on the field yet.

695
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: The Ravens signed him during mandatory mini camp, but we

696
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: haven't seen him take the field yet.

697
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Speaker 1: Well, and it's a big training camp for him. I mean,

698
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Speaker 1: you got to learn the defense, you have to go

699
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: with your teammates, and you have to stay healthy. Yep,

700
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Speaker 1: it's a big camp. Like if Jay Alexander is going

701
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Speaker 1: to have the resurgent year that I think a lot

702
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Speaker 1: of us think he can have and what the Ravens

703
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: are betting on him to have after two injury marred

704
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: seasons the past two years, then he's gonna need to

705
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Speaker 1: stay healthy in camp yep.

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Speaker 3: And then the other guy on the offensive side, I'm

707
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Speaker 3: excited to watch DeAndre Hopkins. Like when whenever he was

708
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Speaker 3: on the field during the off season program, I found

709
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Speaker 3: myself being like, first and foremost.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Like we got DeAndre Hopkins.

711
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Speaker 3: This is awesome, Like we've talked about this for years,

712
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: Like it's it's awesome to see him in a Ravens uniform.

713
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: Almost forgot about it. And then the other piece is

714
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Speaker 3: like every time I saw him, I thought he's going

715
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Speaker 3: to be a difference maker for this team, Like he

716
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: he was in small sample size, but during these offseason practices,

717
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: like he was making plays and making catches that I'm like,

718
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Speaker 3: that's exactly what this team needs. They need a guy

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Speaker 3: that can do exactly that. And he's been a pro

720
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Speaker 3: at making tough, contested catches outside the numbers throughout his career.

721
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Speaker 3: Whether he's open or not, he's always open. And I

722
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Speaker 3: just thought that, like that is exactly the type of

723
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Speaker 3: a type of weapon that the Ravens could use, and

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Speaker 3: so I'm excited to see if he can.

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Speaker 2: Keep it going throughout camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I put together a photo gallery a list of

727
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Speaker 1: you know, fifteen players that training camp is just huge for.

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Speaker 1: I didn't put DeAndre on the list because you know,

729
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Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins, it's like, yeah, he's proven it right,

730
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Speaker 1: Like he doesn't have anything to prove in training him.

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Speaker 1: But I will say, and I think you make a

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Speaker 1: valid point that like him establishing his connection with Lamar

733
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Speaker 1: and Lamar like building trust in in him that like

734
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Speaker 1: he's gonna make those contested catches, And I can put

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Speaker 1: it up like part of the reason why Lamar Jackson

736
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Speaker 1: doesn't throw many interceptions is because he doesn't put the

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Speaker 1: ball in harms away very often with DeAndre Hopkins, Like

738
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Speaker 1: sometimes you might feel like you're putting it in harms

739
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Speaker 1: way a little bit and he'll go up and make

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Speaker 1: a play for you. Yep. And you know, Lamar's had

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Speaker 1: that trust certainly, as we've seen with Mark Andrews and

742
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Speaker 1: and receiver other receivers at times. You know, we've kind

743
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Speaker 1: of seen him put the ball up for grabs a

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Speaker 1: little bit likely it was another one, but like at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, Hopkins might be the best contested catch receiver

746
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Speaker 1: that the Ravens have had in a long time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's the active receiving leader in the NFL,

748
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Speaker 3: and he's been like one of the best contested catch guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean not his decade in the league. Like he's

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Speaker 2: going to go to Canton and part of his on the.

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Speaker 1: Bus, that'll have like another head kind of coming into that,

752
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Speaker 1: like he's just into the frame.

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Speaker 3: Like like he's been one of the he's one of

754
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Speaker 3: the best contested catch players and the NFL has ever seen.

755
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Speaker 3: Like now he can hit big plays too, but like

756
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Speaker 3: his contested catch ability a second to none. So and also,

757
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Speaker 3: like the question I asked, is who you most excited

758
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Speaker 3: see I'm just excited.

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Speaker 2: I think he's fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been an awesome player and like seeing

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Speaker 3: him in a Ravens uniform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go back and talk about a

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Speaker 1: couple of rookies, and I think Malachi starts. As I

765
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Speaker 1: stated before, it's just a really big training camp for him,

766
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Speaker 1: and I'm excited to watch him go out there and

767
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Speaker 1: you know, become the player that I think he's capable

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Speaker 1: of becoming. And like he's in a big, really big

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Speaker 1: spot as a week one starter, and he's got a

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Speaker 1: lot on his shoulders, and I'm excited to see like

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Speaker 1: the playmaking turn on a little bit, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think in OTAs in mini camp, you see him really

773
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: thinking a lot and not wanting to make a mistake

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Speaker 1: and making sure he's got the coverage down. And like

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of ex I had to see at some

776
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Speaker 1: point in training camp like him just turn it loose,

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Speaker 1: you know, and like start breaking on some balls and

778
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Speaker 1: trusting his instincts to say, like, I know I'm in

779
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Speaker 1: the right spot. Let me trust my instincts on this,

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Speaker 1: you know, and make some plays. Like I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. How about the second round pick too?

782
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: Exactly? That's what I was going to talk about Mike Green.

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Speaker 1: I mean talk about really talented players, but once the

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Speaker 1: pads come on, it gets real right in OTAs in

785
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: mini camp, like you're looking at outside linebackers to the end,

786
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Speaker 1: you can get some feel for how good they are.

787
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Speaker 1: But once the pads come on and the physicality ramps up,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna know about Mike Green. And when he's going

789
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Speaker 1: full speed at those offensive tackles, just how big of

790
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Speaker 1: a role he can have as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a dafe Oway.

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Speaker 3: His his athleticism and speed is so rare that he's

793
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Speaker 3: a guy that I think from his very first day

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Speaker 3: at practice as a rookie, like he flashed because he

795
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Speaker 3: had these speed to get around tackles and in shorts

796
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Speaker 3: and shells, and the question for him was more like

797
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Speaker 3: how do you do what the pads come on and

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Speaker 3: the physical nature ramps up. With Mike Green, it's almost like,

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Speaker 3: I think he's physically talented, but once the pads come on,

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Speaker 3: I think he could really shine because it's like now

801
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Speaker 3: that's he was kind of viewed as a guy that

802
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: had like a complete arsenal from a pass rush standpoint

803
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: coming into the NFL. And so now when you get

804
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: into more of like practices that feel more like football does,

805
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: is that as good as advertised? That's the question for him,

806
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: and I think we're gonna get a sense of that.

807
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Speaker 3: One of the most fun drills to watch in training

808
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Speaker 3: camp are one on one drills both receiver dB, but

809
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: the pass rush drills too, offensive tackle firs outside the linebacker.

810
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Speaker 3: Those drills are really fun to watch. I think we'll

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Speaker 3: get a taste of that during just the normal team practices,

812
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Speaker 3: but also some of the joint practices that the Ravens

813
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Speaker 3: are going to have both with the Colts and the

814
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Speaker 3: Commanders this summer. Those will be a good test to

815
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Speaker 3: see how he does against you know, opposing guys and

816
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Speaker 3: those one on one drills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I'm going to stick at outside linebacker.

818
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Speaker 1: And I'm also intrigued to watch a desa Isaac and

819
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: David Ajabo, two other olb's, And you know, it's it's

820
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: just a big training camp for both those guys. A

821
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Speaker 1: Jabo entering his fourth year. It's it's a make or break,

822
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Speaker 1: you know, off season, in season, it's make a break

823
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Speaker 1: season for him, and so he needs to have a

824
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Speaker 1: really good training camp, uh, to really kind of establish

825
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Speaker 1: him and have a role in this outside. Everybody's fighting

826
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Speaker 1: for roles there. Like you have so many good players,

827
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Speaker 1: so Aoa, Kyle van Noy both coming off ten sec

828
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Speaker 1: you know, double digit sex seasons. Tavis Robinson is is

829
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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of snaps, that's just he's just

830
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Speaker 1: a dog. And then you have all these other guys

831
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Speaker 1: Mike Green, A Desa Isaac, David Ajabo, you know, all

832
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Speaker 1: fighting for snaps yep. And so I'm I'm intrigued to

833
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: see Ken David Ajabo put it all together and become

834
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Speaker 1: the guy that we all thought he could be when

835
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Speaker 1: the Ravens made him a second round pick. And then

836
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Speaker 1: also a Desa Isaac here's a third round pick from

837
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Speaker 1: last year. He's really talented, also hampered by injuries. It's

838
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Speaker 1: a really important training camp for him to kind of

839
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Speaker 1: establish himself.

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Speaker 3: You have some key guys that were either high or

841
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: mid round picks that are going into this training camp

842
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of on the bubble or very much on the bubble.

843
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: A job of being one of those guys is like

844
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Speaker 3: nothing is guaranteed, and I think he'd be the first

845
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Speaker 3: to say that. And it's a big opportunity for him

846
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: to show that that he's healthy and he can make

847
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Speaker 3: an impact. A Desa Isaac third round pick from a

848
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Speaker 3: year ago, basically a retcher at season as a rookie

849
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Speaker 3: because of the injury, but now it's an important year

850
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: for him. Another guy, maybe more of a bubble guy.

851
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: I mentioned him earlier in the secondary, Jalen armor Davis.

852
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: He's flashed at times as a fourth year player, but

853
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: this is an opportunity for him to carve out a

854
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: role for himself improve He deserves a spot on a

855
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Speaker 3: really competitive fifty three floaded it's so talented and you

856
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: drafted two guys there too late, but you still drafted

857
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Speaker 3: two guys.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

859
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: Tampa was another guy, kind of a retcher year as

860
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Speaker 3: a rookie last year because of the groin injury.

861
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: How does he come along this season? What does he

862
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 2: look like in camp?

863
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: Like there's just a lot of And he was a

864
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: fourth round pick a year ago who we were all

865
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Speaker 3: excited about, saying he could have been a Day two pick,

866
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Speaker 3: could have been a second round pick. So the Ravens

867
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Speaker 3: got to steal and so like, there's there's just a

868
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Speaker 3: lot of guys who kind of fall into that category

869
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Speaker 3: of players who we felt like have tremendous upside and

870
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: now in order to not only earn a role, but

871
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: earn a spot on the team, they've got to got

872
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: to prove themselves this summer.

873
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: Yep. Another player that I think we all feel like

874
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: very talented and got to prove themselves Trenton Simpson, an

875
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, and you know, can he be that starter

876
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: next to Roquan Smith and reclaim that job and not

877
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: only reclaimed the starting job and beat out Teddy Buchannan

878
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: the rookie, but also just play at a high level.

879
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, I think that inside linebacker was to a

880
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: degree kind of a weakness for the Ravens last season,

881
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: and if this defense is going to be better, I

882
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: think that they just need better play there. And uh

883
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: and so I think it's it's a really important training

884
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: camp for Trent and Simpson and he and Rokwan have

885
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: been putting in the work all off season together to

886
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: really kind of forge that behind and be on the

887
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: same page and you know, get the mental side of

888
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: the game down. As as Trenton talked about, you know,

889
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: being so important, and he feels like he's so much

890
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: more advanced to this offseason than he was last year,

891
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: but he's got to prove it out in training camp.

892
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: And once the pads come on, they're coming downhill and

893
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Derek Henry's getting the ball, you know, are you fitting

894
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: that right? And you you there to meet him or not?

895
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think it's a really important training

896
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: camp for trent and Simpson.

897
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the conversation with Trenton is a little bit different

898
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: than we just had with guys like a Jaba who

899
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: are more kind of roster bubble. Trenton I wouldn't put

900
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: on the roster bubble, but he's he's trying to earn

901
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: a starting job. Yeah, and then the question, just like

902
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: we had with the kickers, Okay, what's the starting job

903
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: is solidified?

904
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: How good can you be?

905
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: Like it's not just a matter of winning that job,

906
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: it's a matter of what you need, really good play

907
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: out of that position. And I think that both of

908
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: us see Trent Simpson, like we said this before, dude

909
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: to super athletic. It is one of the hardest working

910
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: guys that I see out of the team. And so

911
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: I think that it could all click for him this year.

912
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: I think that he could end up being a guy

913
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: that we're just like hey, similar to Patrick Queen where

914
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 3: it all came together for him in year three. Could

915
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: that happen with Trenton Simpson? I think the potential is

916
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: there for that to happen with him, and that's gonna

917
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: I think we'll get a sense of that in training camp.

918
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: And he's another guy. How do you do with when

919
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: the pads come on, when it gets more physical at practice,

920
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: when there's a lot more happening in front of you,

921
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: how are you processing things? I think we'll be able

922
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 3: to tell a lot of that during the summer practices.

923
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: LA's two players for me, Sanoosie Kane Safety. As I

924
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: talked about safety depth, I think is maybe my top

925
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: roster concern as it stands right now. Besides, like are

926
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: these kickers going to be good enough? Basically? And so

927
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: if Sanoosie's playing really well at camp, then I'll feel

928
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: a lot better. I'll feel like the Ravens don't need

929
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: to go pick up a veteran. So he's somebody to

930
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: watch I think at training camp. And then so Emery Jones.

931
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: What about Bo Braid, I would put on and I

932
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: was alsopposed to do, and Bo Braid is I'll put

933
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: him together pack direct.

934
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: That's correct. Bo Braid also, don't can't leave out You're

935
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: main guy. It's hurt. Yeah, I agree, Bo. And then

936
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: another one, Emery Jones, who is a player, the rookie

937
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: third round pick. We haven't really talked about because he

938
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been on the field. He's been dealing with a

939
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: shoulder labrum injury. Uh, and he won't be on the

940
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: field at the start of training camp, as John Harball

941
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: had previously said, But he's gonna return at some point.

942
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: And like I'm just I'm it's important for him because

943
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: he hasn't been on the field. Like, he's got to

944
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: get up to speed a little bit faster. And now

945
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: when the Ravens drafted him, I think a lot of

946
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: us were saying, Hey, could he win the starting left

947
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: guard job. I'd say that's certainly unlikely, considering he hasn't

948
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: played yet, so he's not in a high pressure situation necessarily.

949
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: I think it's more of a you know, next year,

950
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: is he challenging for a start? Is he in line

951
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: to challenge for a starting job and compete for that. Uh,

952
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: certainly think he could. But even if not, like for

953
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: this year, he would be one of your top backups. Yeah, right,

954
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Like he's a tackle guard, he could be a top

955
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: they have Joe Noteboom. He's your swing tackle right now,

956
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: a veteran you start a lot of games, So he'd

957
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: be ahead of Emory Jones. Ben Cleveland's probably your top

958
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: backup guard as of now, right and left guard. But

959
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: the faster the Emory Jones can get up to speed

960
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: once he's healthy and back on the practice field, the

961
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: better you feel about your your offensive line depth.

962
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: For sure, I'm with you on that.

963
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: And and it gets you to a spot where you

964
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: avoid basically what happened last year with like Adisa Isaac

965
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: who is working year was really a red shirt year,

966
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: similar to TJ Tampa, because you're dealing with the injury

967
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: and then you're kind of behind the eight ball and

968
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 3: it's just it's just challenging. Now, you hope that basically

969
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: Emory Jones gets back on the field and he's and

970
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: he's healthy and he's good to go the rest of

971
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: the year. But yeah, there's a there's you gotta you

972
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: gotta make sure that you're good physically and thenk you

973
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 3: got to catch up. You got to catch up both

974
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: on the mental side of things and then also from

975
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: a football shape standpoint and going through practice. So yeah,

976
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: whenever he does return to action, I think it is

977
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: kind of an important camp for him just to just

978
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: to get caught up and see what he can do.

979
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, I said this, and I last see what.

980
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: I have got a bonus one for us here a

981
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: little bit.

982
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Hey, we talked about Nate Wiggins, like him, whether he

983
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: can take that leap that'll begin in training camp and

984
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: he predicted ten takeaways, ten plus, so yeah, let's get

985
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: it rolling. Yeah. Uh. And then DeVante's Walker. You know,

986
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: I think he was a player that we talked about

987
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot during OTAs in mini camp and can he

988
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: keep that momentum going and if he can, then like

989
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: there is there a role for him in this offense?

990
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Can they find some kind of job for him? You know,

991
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of competing with Tyler Wallace and Leajonte

992
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: West or another rookie who'll be exciting to watch for

993
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: pump return.

994
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: He was actually gonna be my bonus guy.

995
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you go on Lejonte, but like Devantees

996
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: is an interesting player because he's got some momentum now

997
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and so can he continue that in training camp?

998
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Lejonte Western for me more so in the

999
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: punk return game. That was an area where the Ravens

1000
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: felt like they weren't good enough last year. They need

1001
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: to improve overall in the return game, both kick return,

1002
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: punt return and covers. You just need to get better

1003
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: from a from a return standpoint across the board and

1004
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: adding Lejonte Western was a piece of the equation. And

1005
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: this is a guy who did in college returned at

1006
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: a high level. They feel really optimistic about what he's

1007
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: going to be able to bring. And I think that's

1008
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: another one of those positions like you can get a

1009
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: feel for that how smoothly does he catch the ball.

1010
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: There's actually like a position a competition. When you're talking

1011
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: about competitions for like starting you know it's starting punt return. Yeah,

1012
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Like that's actually one of the top four.

1013
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: And it's important from a if we've seen this before.

1014
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: We've seen it with Tyler Wallace, Like if you can

1015
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: break a big return, it can change the game. So

1016
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: the Ravens have been off if you can. But then

1017
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: it's also if it goes the other way, you can

1018
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: lose a game. You can lose game in a hurry

1019
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: if you can't catch punts.

1020
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: And like got fortunate late in the season when they

1021
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: were muffing punts, yeah, and cycling through punt returns trying

1022
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: to just find a guy who's going to catch it, Yeah,

1023
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: when he should catch it and catch it and hold

1024
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: on to it. Yea. Like, and they got lucky a

1025
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: few times quite frankly that like they didn't lose the

1026
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: ball and and like, and they lost field position sometimes yep,

1027
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: that they should have had. So like that, I agree

1028
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: with you know what, I'm moving that up to my

1029
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: list of like things I'm watching.

1030
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: There you go, I'm watching punt return and uh, it's

1031
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: get to be fun.

1032
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1033
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: I think that I think that this campus, we said

1034
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: at the outset is going to be a really exciting one.

1035
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: I think this team is positioned to be one of

1036
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: the best this year. And and I do I do

1037
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: think just to put a bow on it, I do

1038
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: think that.

1039
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: That John Harbo does a great job of.

1040
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: Like setting the tone and taking like we're all going

1041
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: to be talking about the end of the road and

1042
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: gege it over the hump and all this stuff. But

1043
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: I think that, like he does a really good job

1044
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: of keeping the focus on, like today's practice, what's important now,

1045
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: Like those little things that like sound cliche but I

1046
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: do think are actually important for a team as you're

1047
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: building throughout the course of a year.

1048
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: Did you get the script for the first team meeting

1049
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: of training camp for.

1050
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: Something I did not? I did not he did not

1051
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: give me.

1052
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: I think he would do a much better job than

1053
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: I would deliver that initial speech message to the team.

1054
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: But I think that, like, I think he does a

1055
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: good job of that. So, yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1056
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna be covering this thing throughout the entire summer,

1057
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: and of course.

1058
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: Wednesday, we'll be back with our takeaways from the first practice,

1059
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: which is always really fun.

1060
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, So as always, you can email us to the

1061
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so

1062
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: much for listening, and we'll be back with you again soon.