1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. You turned into. 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Any conservative news channel on the radio, on television, you 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: read any blog, you read any magazine. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: You will hear politicians. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: You will hear this set again and again and again, 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: the Sorows district attorneys, the Sorrows prosecutors. We know that 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: crime is up across the country, almost exclusively in major cities, 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: and we know that there are these sort of predator, prowler, 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: evil people who in past years would have committed their 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: crime and then they would have been arrested eventually, and 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: then they would have been sent away first time for 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: a couple of years, they'd get out, they do it 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: again the next time, for ten years, get out and 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: do it again. 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: The next time. They'd be in for And they're getting older. 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: As this is going on, and as as punks get older, 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: they tend to be less aggressive and less violent. Well, 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: what happens if that what if that happens if that 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: cycle that we just just described, What if instead that 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: guy may or may not be arrested, but when he is, 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: he's released. Now instead of being a year, three, five, 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: ten years in prison, he's committing crimes, and he's committing 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: a lot of them, and they're violent, and each victim. 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: God help you if you're a victim one of these people, 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: because you're not a statistic anymore. It becomes you lock 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: every door obsessively, you go to counseling, you worry over 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: your family members, the phone rings and you jump, you 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: worry something. It changes your whole, It steals your innocence. 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: So we know that George Soros and now his son's 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: taking over the operation. We know that I can't stand 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: the man, and it is bad for America. But one 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: must marvel at how effectively he has carried out his 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: agenda by simply recognizing a little quirk, a little loophole. 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: Go in and get the district attorney, own the district 36 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: attorney in the major city, and you can make criminals 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: out of innocent people, and you can make innocent people 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: out of criminals. You can really create a tumultuous situation. 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: And that has happened. 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: Now you've heard this line from me, from Tucker, from 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: a lot of other people. We have a guest who's 42 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: going to help us dig deeper in actually case in point, 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: chapter and verse. 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: His name is Zack Smith. 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: He's a Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation and 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: he is an author of the He is the author 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: of the book Rogue Prosecutors, How radical sorrows lawyers are 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: destroying America's communities. It is available now. Zach, let me 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: start with the question, of all the things you could 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: write about, why did you choose this? 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for having me on 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: the show today. I really appreciate appreciate the opportunity to 53 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: be here and talk about this. But the reason we 54 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: chose to write about this my co author and I 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: we're both former prosecutors, and we started talking to the 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: friends of former colleagues and they said, Hey, there are 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: prosecutors coming into office around the country and they're not prosecuting. 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: They're refusing to prosecute certain crimes. They're not secuing veil 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: even for repeat violent offenders, and even when someone is 60 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: convicted of a crime, they're seeking very lenient sentences for 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: that convicted criminal. And we started hearing this story more 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: and more in cities are around the country, and so we 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: started looking into it. We started writing about some of 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: these prosecutors, and pretty soon it became a parent there's 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: a thread leaving all these prosecutors together. This was a 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: national movement that was very well financed back by George 67 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: Soros and other left landing billionaires, and it was a 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: systematic attempt to fundamentally, and this is their words, reimagine 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: and re engineer our criminal justice system. And the consequences 70 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: of this effort have been absolutely devastating in the communities 71 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: where it's being tried. It's been absolutely devastating for victims, 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: and it's been absolutely devastating for the rule of law 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: across the country. And so this is a very important topic. Frankly, 74 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: I think it's something not a lot of people realize 75 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: is happening right now, and so we wanted to write 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: about it to highlight it and the most importantly, give 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: folks a pathway forward if they're confronted with one of 78 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: these rogue, radical distance attorneys in their own communities. 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: Zach, I want to do that, but I want to 80 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: devote sufficient time as much as we possibly can to 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Let's start, and I want to devote the time to 82 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: do this thoroughly. 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Let's start with how this happened. 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: To what extent can we say that these are Soros prosecutors. 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: I'm going to make some straw man arguments. I'm going 86 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: to be the devil's advocate in this case from truly 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: the devil's advocate. Let's start with, well, George Soros isn't 88 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: the only one supporting these prosecutors and they are winning 89 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: the support of their voters. 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: How do you respond to his outsized influence. 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'll make a couple of points and responds to that. 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: First of all, Yeah, George Soros isn't the only person 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: doing it, but he was certainly one of the driving 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: forces behind this movement. He's certainly been one of the 95 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: biggest financial contributors to this movement. In our book, we 96 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: have an entire chapter where we go through the funding 97 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: of this movement, how it works, what we know, What 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: we can't definitively know because a lot of the money 99 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: goes through back channels. It's tend from public views. But 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: what we think we know based on where some of 101 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: the money is going with some of the money is 102 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: being spent. And it's estimated that in direct campaign contributions, 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: George Soros has given almost forty million dollars in direct 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: campaign contributions to support these rogue district attorney around the country. Now, 105 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: that is a lot of money. But in politics, you 106 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: may be thinking, well, that's not that much money. You know, 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: look at how much we spend on the last presidential election. 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: Look at how much is spend on Senate rignatorial races. 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: But the important thing to realize here is that in 110 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: different attorney races, these are traditionally low dollar, low profile affairs. 111 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: They're often uncontested. Many times, even in large cities, a 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: six figure campaign contribution is unheard of. And so when 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: you you know, inundate these cities with a seven figure 114 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: campaign contribution, that's a tsunami of money. Also, we suspect 115 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: in indirect spending, different infrastructure that's been put in place, 116 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: think tanks, support groups that George Sorol system spending to 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: support this radical movement in criminal justice reform in general 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: may be approaching a billion. If it's a billion with 119 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: a being dollars. And then quickly to your second point, 120 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: you said, these individuals received the supportable voters, they were 121 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: elected to office. That's true. What happened in many of 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: these jurisdictions when these folks were first running for office, 123 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: they used poltpted language saying they wanted to fare criminal 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: justice system. They wanted a criminal justice system that didn't 125 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: unnecessarily incarcerate anyone. They made pretty uncontroversial statements that you 126 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: or I or any reasonable person would agree with. But 127 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: what happened when these individuals got into office. In many cases, 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: it quickly became a parent. What they met by those 129 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 3: phrases and what you or I or the average person 130 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: would have understood those phrases to mean are two different things. 131 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Dire right and the amount of money, As you said, 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: it may not sound like that much money, but it 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: is shocking how these district attorneys races. Unlike say, congressional seats, 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: one congressman can't do much if you're not the Speaker 135 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: of the House, you're just one congressman. A district attorney 136 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: has an incredible amount of power. You will discuss this 137 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: issue in greater detail. I'm going to devote a lot 138 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: of time on this Evening's program just so that you're aware, 139 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: because this is an issue that is not getting enough 140 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: attention and is absolutely destroying America's cities. 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: Heck, you see what's. 142 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Happening with with Donald Trump and that prosecution alone. More 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: coming up the book is Rogue Prosecutors. How radical Sorrows 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: lawyers are destroying America's cool. 145 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 4: I've almost went to law school. 146 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Mars the Michael Berry Show. 147 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Zach Smith is our guest of the Heritage Foundation. 148 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: The book is Rogue Prosecutors. 149 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: How radical Soros lawyer are destroying America's communities. Folks, I 150 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: want you to understand, to put this into perspective. When 151 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: you talk about presidential elections and how much money is raised, 152 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: you take that to the state level for gubernatorial elections 153 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: and how much money is raised. And the one that 154 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: gets me is how much money people will spend on 155 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: a congressional election. How much money will be raised, And 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: you think to yourself, of all those millions of dollars, 157 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: we could have taken ten percent of that and focused 158 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: it on a district attorney's race in the major cities 159 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: and won some races. Most people don't know who the 160 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: district attorney is in their county. And I'm particularly speaking 161 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: of the major counties that the major cities are part of. 162 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Harris County for Houston, Cook County for Chicago. You see 163 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: this with Atlanta, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York, LA, Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland, 164 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: you know, Monoma County used to be kind of a 165 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: reasonable county and Portland was a little wacky, weird, harmless. 166 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: Well that's changed, and now you don't want to run 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: a foul of the district attorney in those sorts of places. 168 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: So for very little money, you talk about bang for 169 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: the buck. For very little money, relatively speaking, sorrows can 170 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: have an incredible amount of influence in decriminalizing certain crimes, 171 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: in saying, well, if you're a young black man who 172 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: is engaged in jugging, that's a big thing in Houston 173 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: right now. And you follow a little lady from the 174 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: bank where she makes a withdrawal because she's going because 175 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: her grandkids are coming to see her and she wants 176 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: to give them some money for their birthday. And that 177 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: guy puts a pistol in her face, whips her, takes 178 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: the money, and the cops arrest him. They got him 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: dead to rights, they got him on video, they've got 180 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: her witness account. 181 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. 182 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's four witnesses at a whole deal. And 183 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: you've got, as we've seen in Houston, you've got now judges, 184 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: because beyond just the prosecutor, you've got the judges. Now, 185 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we've seen a crime spike in 186 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: Houston and Harris County, the likes of which we've never seen. 187 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: And it's not that there are criminals, it's that our 188 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: process is no longer dealing with them. That's why this 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: issue is so important, because it's a national trend and 190 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: it's not accidental rogue prosecutors. How radical Soros lawyers are 191 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: destroying America's communities. Zach, I think I cut you off 192 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: while you were making your point. I want to make 193 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: sure you leave nothing unsaid. We're gonna have plenty of 194 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: time to get into this. But when you look at 195 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: the Soro's strategy and how targeted this is, how did 196 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: he do we understand how he decided this would be 197 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: the thing he would focus on. 198 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have an entire chapter in the book, and 199 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: the way we structured the book, we basically have The 200 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: first chapter talks about the background, the ideological underpinnings of 201 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: the movement. It has its roots in a Marxist movement 202 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: from the sixties seventies to prison abolition movement. There's actually 203 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: a movement where people think no one should go to 204 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: prison for any reason. Well, that obviously didn't play well 205 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: with the general public. Most people wrecked it for the 206 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,479 Speaker 3: radical policy that it was. But what that original marksist 207 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: prison abolition movement pushed. Much of that's been accomplished to 208 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: day through the Rogue Prosecutor movement. But what happened back 209 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, Essentially some folks who work 210 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: for George Soros or had been affiliated with George Soros, 211 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: they recognized how much power the district attorney has, and 212 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: are twenty three hundred local elected das around the country, 213 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: and they simply realize, it doesn't matter how many officers 214 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: you have on the street. It doesn't matter if the 215 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: officers are making arrest. If the prosecutor won't prosecute the criminals, 216 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: what the police. 217 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: Do doesn't matter. 218 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter what kind of laws you have 219 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: on the book. If you have mandatory minimums lency sentences 220 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: for violent crimes, none of that matters either. If the 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: prosecutor won't prosecute, because the judge will never see the case, 222 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: it'll be dismissed before it ever goes to trial. And so, 223 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: in a very ingenious and very diabolical way, these individuals 224 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: recognized how much power the DA has. They recognized that 225 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: not many people pay attention to the local DA races, 226 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: and they recognized that for relatively little money, they could 227 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: go in boost their preferred candidates to the top of 228 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: the electoral pack and essentially through a very back end 229 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: way in active preferred policies, policies that frankly they like, 230 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: they knew they could never get pushed through each state's legislature. 231 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: And so they did a test run in Mississippi and 232 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: Louisiana with some where they primaried essentially some death penalty das, 233 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: and they had success. And so then they moved out 234 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: and they went national and their first big city prosecutor 235 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: they backed with Tim Fox in Chicago, the Cook County 236 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: District Attorney. And so the other thing we do in 237 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: our book we highlight eight different road prosecutors in eight 238 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: different cities around the country. We outlined how they came 239 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: to be part of the movement, who backed them, the 240 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: policies they've enacted once they got into office, and most tragically, 241 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: we focus on true crime stories that would not have 242 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: happened but for these rogue prosecutors' policies. And I have 243 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: to tell you it's heartbreaking when you see the same 244 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: results playing out in city after city after city, and 245 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: knowing that these crimes would not have happened if these 246 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: prosecutors would have just done their jobs and would if 247 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: they would have sought justice and sought to hold criminals 248 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: accountable for their actions. 249 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: It's a real harsh reality that many people don't want 250 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: to accept to understand that there is a prevailing belief, 251 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: because they don't say it in these words directly, that 252 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: a person who commits murder, particularly a person of color, 253 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: should simply be released back out on the streets because 254 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: he is a victim of a system. And it's not 255 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: until someone is a victim of of a crime or 256 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: has a family member who is. And we had a 257 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: series of crime victims families in the last year during 258 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: our during our. 259 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Election cycle stepped forward and we had. 260 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: The son of a woman who she was run over 261 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: and then they backed back up over her to seal 262 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: her purse as she exited a McDonald's. And we have 263 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: teenagers who are murdered by a gang member, and then 264 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: the gang members drive by the mom's home and and 265 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: and make you know, air pistol gestures at her, or 266 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: they're released from prison before she's home from a casket 267 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: or planning the funeral. The bad guys are released to 268 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: go back to their home three doors over from where 269 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: the bad guy kill their daughter. It is a level 270 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: of a depth of depravity that is hard, I think 271 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: for most people to understand that these things aren't happening accidentally, 272 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: that this is a strategy, a very ill intentioned strategy, 273 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: and it's working out exactly the way they planned it 274 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: because they don't share our belief that the victim is 275 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: sacrosanct and criminals should be punished. 276 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: I will die for the country. I will die or 277 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: disclast Michael Berry Joe, He's the big honor to be 278 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: living in the United States. 279 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: A year or two ago, I was watching No Country 280 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: for Old Men, and Tommy Lee Jones's character, if you recall, 281 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: is the sheriff who never really unholsters his gun. He 282 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: never has to draw, and the Mexican cartels have brought 283 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: a level of violence to the streets that he can't 284 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: even understand. The firepower far exceeds anything he's got, and 285 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: he just can't understand how the. 286 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: World has gone to hell. You just can't understand it. 287 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: So he goes to his mentor, and he's talking to 288 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: his mentor, and his mentor's trying to explain how crazy 289 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: the world has become, and he refers to signs and wonders. 290 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: And when I heard that. 291 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, that's how I feel about some 292 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: of the crazy news stories of how on earth can 293 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: this actually happen? How do you reach such a point 294 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: of depravity? 295 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: I really have to wonder. 296 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: Well, our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to 297 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: you from Chicago, Illinois. 298 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 5: It's all damn money, into money and the drugs. It's 299 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: just damn you. 300 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: What's it mean? What's it leading to? 301 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. 302 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 5: If you'd told me twenty years ago, i'd see children 303 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 5: walk in the streets of our Texas towns with the 304 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 5: green hair bones and their noses, and I just. 305 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: Flat out with the bleak signs and wonders. But I think, 306 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: once you quit here in sir and ma'am, But that's 307 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: just seem to follow. It's it's the digital pad. 308 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: It is not the one thousan one thing, signs, signs 309 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 5: and Wonders. It's the digital pars Walker. 310 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two 311 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: in Chicago. 312 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: And it's ugly. 313 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: We began with a tragic story in the Southwest Suburbs 314 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: after teens take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride. 315 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 6: Robin's fully say three thirteen year old boys were inside 316 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 6: of a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out, 317 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 6: driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon. 318 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with 319 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: another car, killing a seventy. 320 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: One year old man who was driving. 321 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 6: Neighbors tell us the man lived in a nearby apartment complex. 322 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: He's terrible, terrible. 323 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 7: I don't even think they're taking drivers, eve, So how 324 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 7: are you stealing a car? I'm very unfortunate. 325 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: Say it. 326 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 7: Say it. 327 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 6: The teens were all arrested at the scene. 328 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 2: The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered 329 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: that they haven't taken drivers yet. 330 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: That's the least of their words. 331 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: Before you say, well, they're just children doing childish things, 332 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: let me remind you of Lttarian Milton Terrian was seven 333 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: years old when he stole his grandma's car. When asked 334 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: why he did it, he said that he wanted to 335 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: do hood rat stuff with his friends. He wanted to 336 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: do hoodrat stuff with his friends that went viral in 337 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, but you've already forgotten it. He 338 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: was seven years old. You have a seven year old 339 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: boy stealing a car and saying funny stuff on the news. 340 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Let's go back to that original report. 341 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: This is a. 342 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: Seven year old kid, a first grader. 343 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Credit WPF News in West Palm. 344 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 8: Beach, Ltarian Milton is not your typical seven year old. 345 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 8: If you his age, have ever driven an suv up 346 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 8: and down several busy streets. It all started at his 347 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 8: mother's townhouse. Latarian says he took the car keys and 348 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 8: hopped into his grandmother's dodge duringo and. 349 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: I came to the back door. 350 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: I looked on the counter, my keys were born. 351 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 7: I took my gun car because I got mad at 352 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 7: my mom. And then I saw him have a friend 353 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 7: come in and he smoked for a cigarette. 354 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: He started the vehicle, then put it into gear. 355 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 8: I yanked b the thing and off they went. Two 356 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 8: seven year olds alone on the road. Latarian drove several 357 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 8: miles through Lake Park and Palm Beach Gardens. 358 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 6: We got the one call out he told you about 359 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 6: of a driver in the vehicle who looked too short. 360 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: To be able to see what the stereo. 361 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 8: Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two 362 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 8: part cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two 363 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 8: moving cars near Walmart. 364 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 7: I want to do it because it's fun. It's funny 365 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 7: do bad things drive them to a car. 366 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: So did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody? 367 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 7: Yes? But I wanted to do hoo orsh stuff for 368 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 7: my friend. 369 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 8: It all ended on Investment Lane and Consumer Drive. That's 370 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 8: where Laitarian hit the curve inside swipe the sign. The 371 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 8: suv took most of the beating, snapping off one of 372 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 8: his axles and wheels. 373 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: A grandmother's rage. 374 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: I want to whip his behind. That's what I want 375 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 7: to do right now. 376 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 9: If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd 377 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 9: whip his behind right now. 378 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: You don't think you should be punished for all of this. 379 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 7: There's a little bit no video games for the whole weekend, and. 380 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: One unusual story for police. Are you sorry? 381 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: You understand that now your grandma's gonna have to pay 382 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: to have. 383 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: Those cars fixed because you hit those cars. 384 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Can my mom, I don't know, can your mom help her? 385 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: Well? 386 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: You moved on as we all did, but litarian. 387 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: Two weeks after that, he attacked his grandmother because she 388 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't buy him chicken wings. Nine years later, he found 389 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: himself in trouble again. Want to guess what he did? 390 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: This time he carjacked a car with his friends once again. 391 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: WPBF twenty five news. 392 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 8: Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning. 393 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 8: He learned that he will not be able to go 394 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 8: home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear 395 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 8: from the judge the next court day. We last spoke 396 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 8: with Latarian Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just completed 397 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 8: middle school and was looking forward to the next step. 398 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 7: Don't get the school in high schools. Good famis football 399 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 7: team paw some good successful. 400 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 8: This is Milton entering a Westboum Beach quarterroom Monday to 401 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 8: face charge of stemming from an arm robbery and Carjackie 402 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 8: Bobe County. 403 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 4: Here of stepan. 404 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 8: He say a lift driver picked up four young males 405 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 8: and a female early Sunday morning and drove them to 406 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 8: Windor Away in Westboum Beach. That's where the female exited 407 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 8: the vehicle. Investigators say the suspects told the driver to 408 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 8: take them to another location. When the driver refused, authorities 409 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 8: say one of the suspects pulled out a handgun and 410 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 8: hit the driver in the back of the head. The 411 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 8: driver says he got out of the car and was 412 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 8: robbed of his wallet and jacket. He later told Diffidy's 413 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 8: that Milton, who was in the front passenger seat, got 414 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 8: out and hopped into the driver's seat and sped away 415 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 8: with the other suspects. According to investigators, the driver gave 416 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 8: detectives a phone number which led to the identification of Milton. 417 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 8: Deputy's arrested Milton Sunday afternoon. We first met Milton in 418 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 8: two thousand and seven, when he was seven years old. 419 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 8: He had just stolen his grandmother's SUV and went on 420 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 8: a joy ride through Lake Park in Palm Beach Gardens. 421 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 7: I want to do it because it's fun, funny do 422 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 7: bad things? Help drives into a car. 423 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: So did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody? 424 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 7: Yes, but I wanted to do hoosh stuff with my friend. 425 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: But I thought they wouldn't take me to jail. I'd 426 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: whip this behind right now. 427 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 8: Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at 428 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 8: a juvenile facility and to his next court. 429 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: Date, Militarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in prison 430 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: for that Crown the streets have replaced fathers in the home. 431 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: You know, I've played this flip before, but maybe it's 432 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: never been more appropriate than now. It was Denzel Washington 433 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: when he was asked about the importance of the father 434 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: in the home. 435 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 8: You know, incarceration race in America has been a problem, 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 8: especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman dez into this 437 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: the issues. 438 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 4: Around the legal system. Do you think we've made any headway? 439 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 9: And I don't think it's more important to make head 440 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 9: weigh in our own house. By the time the system 441 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 9: comes into play, the damage is done. They're not locking 442 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 9: up seven year olds. 443 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 444 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 9: You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three 445 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 9: four weeks ago, and we saw these little kids on 446 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 9: bikes with masks on the side of the head, like 447 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 9: five or six of 'em. And the driver said, yeah, 448 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 9: they little yummies. I said, who said little yummies? Look 449 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 9: up Google little yummy. Little yummy was eleven year old murderer. 450 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: Wow. 451 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 9: And you look at his picture, you'll see the head 452 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 9: shot up and he's like this, and he got murdered 453 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 9: at eleven by a fourteen year old. Wow, who's doing 454 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 9: life now in a sixteen year old? 455 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: That makes no sense. 456 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: You blame the system? Where was his father? 457 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 9: It starts in the house and starts in the home, 458 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 9: and yeah, well, well when my father got locked up? 459 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Or where was his father? 460 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 461 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 9: You know, like I did talk about my three closest friends, 462 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 9: and they did, you know, fifteen to twenty five? One 463 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 9: did twenty eight this and that I was the only 464 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 9: one of the three to have a father in my life, 465 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 9: even though my parents were together, but I still had 466 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 9: a father who was a gentle man and a good example. 467 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 7: And they did. 468 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 9: They can blame the system if we want, but they 469 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 9: didn't lock any of us up at seven. We were 470 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 9: all doing enough to get locked up. At thirteen, my 471 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 9: parents sent me in another direction. They didn't have anybody 472 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 9: to help them, and they kept doing what they was 473 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 9: doing and the system got them. So I don't know, 474 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 9: the system is rigged, but all the more reason not 475 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 9: to help you. 476 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 4: Take Carriet though, think about it. 477 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 10: My clarious. 478 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: The issue of DEEI keeps coming up, diversity, equity and inclusion, 479 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: and it is an issue fraud with hurt feelings and 480 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: a lack of honesty, and the lack of honesty is 481 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: for a simple reason, because of the hurt feelings. 482 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: See, the truth is painful to some people. 483 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: If you were let's say you're a fan of the 484 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: NFL for about a two what do your span there? 485 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: The most dominant team by far was the New England Patriots, 486 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: but the fans of all the other teams wanted their 487 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: team to win, so they would argue, my team's better 488 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: in your team. But no, actually, your team doesn't win 489 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: the super Bowl and the Patriots do. 490 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: It's just that simple. 491 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: But if it hurts your feelings, we'll say that your team, 492 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: which came in last place is the best team and 493 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: the Patriots really aren't. 494 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: And we can make excuses. 495 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: We can do the film, we can do the inflated 496 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: but we can make every excuse known to mankind, and 497 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: we can say your team is better. 498 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: In fact, we can make your team the super Bowl champion. 499 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: We just call them the champion even though they don't win, 500 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: and then everybody will be happy. Right, And that's what 501 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: you do if your primary goal is to avoid hurting 502 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: people's feelings. So what people learn when they want to 503 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: get their way, as children do, is they learn what 504 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: behaviors will allow them to get their way. You see 505 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: a child manipulate a parent, and every parent you know, 506 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: you've you've been there. A kid who has a booboo, 507 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: Mama kisses the booboo, who put a band aid on it, 508 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: and for a little while there, he doesn't have to 509 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: his homework, almost fussing on what she's using that sweet 510 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: mama tone. 511 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh it's so nice. He can eat what he wants. 512 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: He's not required to do anything, and maybe we can 513 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: even have some ice cream. Oh, it's good. So if 514 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: you're a kid, you go ooh. Hypochondria pays. This is 515 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: how we train animals. It's very simple. Animals can't understand words. 516 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: They do understand tone. I think some humans think they 517 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: understand words. 518 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: They don't. 519 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: And obviously they can't speak back to us. But say dog, 520 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: for instance, they're very smart and they're very smart at 521 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: recognizing patterns. And dog trainers will tell you this, and 522 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: that's why the consistency of the pattern is key. 523 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Dog. 524 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: When I say a word or a sound up and 525 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: you go down flat, and I give you a milk 526 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: bone and you love a milk bone. Then when I 527 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: go up, you go down. You get the bone, and 528 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: next time I go, uh, you're going down because you'll 529 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: get the bone. Now, Uh, it's not really a word. 530 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: But if instead of umph, I did sit, then you 531 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: may Oh he gets the word sit. No, he gets 532 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: the tone and he gets the reaction. And so dogs 533 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: learn to react in this manner. Well, guess what some 534 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: of you, in fact, most of you, are being played 535 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: for the dog by people want you to react a 536 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: certain way when they want it. When they scream racism, 537 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: you apologize, You hand over your money, you hand over 538 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: your position, you change your rules, you do everything because 539 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: it pays, and you learn to sit when they say sit. 540 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. 541 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: And so we have become a nation of people whose 542 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: primary concern is not upsetting the people who are always upset. 543 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: The problem with this is there is no end to 544 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: this behavior, and as we're coming to learn, there are 545 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: real consequences. There are companies who no longer manufacture good products. 546 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: There are people in positions where you need to be 547 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: good at a skill and you lack that skill. But 548 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: you're a girl, but you're black, but you're this, but 549 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: you're that, and then you're failing at performing the task 550 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: because you had no business being there creates real problems. 551 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: Now the response to that is, Oh, you just don't 552 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: like women, Oh you just don't like blacks. Oh that 553 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: is an insulting thing to say. And it's also a 554 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: stupid thing to say. And I'm not going to respond 555 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: to it because it reflects more about you than it 556 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: does me. If that's what you think of me, then 557 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to change your opinion by disagreeing with you. 558 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: But also understand you have revealed your stupid Now, if 559 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: you're stupid and also black, or stupid and also a woman, 560 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: I'll just add that to your character profile. You're taller, 561 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: you're sure, you're fat, or you're skinny, you're stupid, okay, 562 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: And I will never change my opinion of you because 563 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: you have shown me you are stupid. And I'm not 564 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: hiring you because you're stupid. I don't care how much 565 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 2: that upsets you. You're not forcing me into that. And 566 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: when people start behaving this way, you don't have to 567 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: have DEI in the NBA. You don't have to have 568 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: DEI in the NFL because coaches only want the best 569 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: player on the field and fans demand that you win. 570 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: What an amazing world to live in where winning or 571 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: losing would actually matter. You've seen this with Boeing, where 572 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: they've put people into positions that they can't handle them. 573 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: And you've got engine callings falling apart in midflight, wheels 574 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: falling off at takeoff, cockpit window glass cracking, engine failure, 575 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: You've got real, real problems. And the airlines, not just 576 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: the manufacturers, are having their share of problems. A female 577 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: pilot showed up to work in street clothes and she 578 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: tells the passengers that she's going through a divorce. Now 579 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: this says to me, this person is a person is 580 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: emotionally unstable, and I'll bet you that would have been 581 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: revealed all along the process of her becoming a pilot. 582 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you how important the job 583 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: of being a pilot is. Because fewer than two dozen, 584 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: fewer than twenty terrorists managed to hijack a few planes, 585 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: and it was the worst terror attack on American soil. 586 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: This is kind of a big job. Inside Edition revealed 587 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: the story. Here she is, she's not in her uniform, 588 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: but here she is having a moment before a flight. 589 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Listen to this. Hey, if you don't feel safe, get 590 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: off the airplane. 591 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 10: This is your captain speaking, but never like this set. 592 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 7: I'll stop and we'll fly the airplane. 593 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: Don't worry. 594 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: I'm going to let my co pilot. 595 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 7: He's a man. 596 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a total meltdown. 597 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 10: The pilot boarded in her street clothes that addressed the 598 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 10: passengers over the interco. Passenger Pam O'Neill couldn't believe what 599 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 10: was happening. 600 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 11: She said, let's take a vote. How many of you 601 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 11: would like to take off now with me dressed as 602 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 11: I am? Or would you prefer that I take ten 603 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 11: minutes to get changed into my cute little uniform. Then 604 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 11: she started talking about her divorce and political candidates in 605 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 11: the minute. She mentioned that a gentleman stood up and 606 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 11: just yelled, blow enough, you're scaring me. 607 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 10: Another passenger, Randy Reese, got up to leave and gave 608 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 10: a running commentary. 609 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: On social media. 610 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 10: Pilot also insulted a couple on board. 611 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Did I offend you? Okay? 612 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 7: So did I purposely offend you? I did? Did the 613 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 7: answers yet? 614 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Please this on doors? 615 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 10: After twenty passengers insisted on getting off the United Airlines 616 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 10: flight with a pilot quietly left the aircraft. 617 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 6: Okay, if you don't feel fake it off the airplane 618 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: Sh