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Speaker 2: Revere Donks, look at us now, tip to tip. This

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Speaker 2: is our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit

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Speaker 2: we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It is Friday, the twenty third

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Speaker 1: of October twenty twenty, and it is Tom Donks for

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas and

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Speaker 1: one half of your hosting duo. I am from CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by the gentleman over there. He is

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Speaker 1: also from CBS Sports. The conspiracy to my theory, so

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Speaker 1: many good things about him. No one loves bad Rebok

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Speaker 1: UFC slash MMA shirts more than my friend in yours

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Speaker 1: soup himself, Brian Campbell. What's up, BC?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody likes four ninety nine reduced T shirts better

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Speaker 2: than me as a cheap ass. Luke, I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: It is Friday, so please viewers, gather up your jackets,

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Speaker 2: move it to the exits. It's closing time for the

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Speaker 2: week that was. You know what Friday means. We get

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Speaker 2: you pumped up one last time for the big fights

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. No pants, family and pets are all welcome.

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Speaker 2: Let's just roll out the balls, Luke, as they say,

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Speaker 2: as my old gym teacher, Coach Peters would say, you guys,

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Speaker 2: do whatever the hell you want. I gotta go downstairs

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Speaker 2: and drink some hooch and plan out some football ex's

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Speaker 2: and o'sh's gonna roll out the balls here for Friday

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Speaker 2: gym class, Luke, and see what happens. All right, balls

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Speaker 2: across the nose.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, brother, I see you went to these same

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Speaker 1: kind of failed American public schools that I went to.

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Speaker 1: Very very nice to know. Okay, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that, you know, for a fight

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Speaker 1: the scene for that kind of a thing. But it's

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Speaker 1: in Finland real quickly? Are you? Where are you on?

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Speaker 1: Like we're all gonna be done watching by like four

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Speaker 1: four thirty kind of bit.

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Speaker 2: Where am I on the excitement level that we're getting out?

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Speaker 1: Like? Do you like that or not?

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love it, Luke, because look, we're both East

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Speaker 2: you know now that we're old bastards over forty Does

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Speaker 2: the main event really need to come on at twelve

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Speaker 2: thirty am? No, it doesn't. But number two, Luke, we're

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Speaker 2: paid to be excited and give analysis and bring it,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I write post fight reaction pieces and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to do that at four PM,

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Speaker 2: when when you're very viral and ready to explode, than

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Speaker 2: combat instant analysis and you're like, who fought again tonight? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm fired the hell up for this.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine what it's like, Luke, to be

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Speaker 2: a West Coaster, not just to wake up at you know,

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Speaker 2: ten am and watch the NFL, but to like watch

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Speaker 2: a big fight and then like go out afterwards then

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Speaker 2: live the rest of your life. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what that feels like, Luke, all right.

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Speaker 1: I know. And every time we bring this up, you

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Speaker 1: UFC two point fifty four BC. Let's hop right into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's preview this card here a little bit. We start

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Speaker 1: with the main event. Now, you and I were on

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Speaker 2: That's a great question, Luke. I came to the decision

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Speaker 2: I like Justin Gaigee on Saturday. You know, not enough

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas and tell you this is the pick. But

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Speaker 2: I'm going with Justin. I think he's gonna do it

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. If Habib wins, he is everything and more

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Speaker 2: walk away. Gay Chee's got a real chance on Saturday, Luke,

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Speaker 2: because we don't know how great he is. I don't

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Speaker 2: care how many times you watch the Tony Fight. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if you did four dissecteds on him, Luke.

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Speaker 2: You don't know where Justin Gai Chee's ceiling is. And

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Speaker 2: that's a scary spot to be if you're Habib.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, now that that filibuster is over, I

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Speaker 1: would say there's a lot of that actually.

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Speaker 2: Passion, Luke. That was passion from from from my from

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Speaker 1: That was you know, was miss Listen, sometimes people are

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Speaker 1: so committed to the filibuster that they defecate on themselves.

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Speaker 1: Number GA made off. He's gonna blow the doors off

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Speaker 1: I just feel like what we do know leads me

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Speaker 2: Now let me say, oh yeah, real quickly, real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Madoff looked like shit, let's just call what it is.

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Speaker 1: He looked like shit. How much of a factor is that?

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Speaker 1: And where are you on wiy Endgate? All of that?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough, it's tough, you go in waves.

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Speaker 2: It's an emotional reaction because you see a guy really

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Speaker 2: it really matter I do. And it's not that Habib

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Speaker 2: That tells me it's at least something. And I like

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Speaker 2: response of why Habib should win this. Obviously, Luke, let's

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Speaker 2: there are ways for Justin to get Habib off his game.

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Speaker 2: Habib is always dictating the terms. You have to play

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Speaker 2: can do, Luke, that can rattle what Habib has used to.

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Speaker 2: Can you show me a fight on Habib's incredible ledger

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Speaker 2: maybe the Glason Teabow fight. He had some trouble doing

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Speaker 2: Good God, his intangibles are freaking legendary. We haven't seen it, Luke,

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Speaker 2: believe Justin Gatchee has opportunities here Luke Windows to get

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Speaker 1: for the weight to fully settle, like it hit one

425
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Speaker 1: fifty five and he was like, okay, good maybe, but

426
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Speaker 1: do I care? I definitely don't care. Where are you

427
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Speaker 1: being seen?

428
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Speaker 2: Yeah? That don't Eddie Bravo me on this, and you know,

429
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Speaker 2: I love me A sick conspiracy theory, A juicy one.

430
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. Look, this was this wasn't what

431
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: was that UFC two ten in Buffalo? We didn't see

432
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: DC hold the towel pearl. Gonzalez wasn't banned for enhancements,

433
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: you know, where I'm going with that, Luke, right, yeah.

434
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Speaker 1: Yes, on this particular issue, do you care though?

435
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: Uh no, I thought it was fine. I thought it

436
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: was kosher, but uh you know again, don't overlook what

437
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: that could mean. And uh look do you look again?

438
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: Thank you UFC, because this is another this fight has

439
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 2: really risen. I don't know if Dana is sort of like, well,

440
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: this could out do two twenty nine. I don't know

441
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: anything about that. All right, whatever your digital numbers are

442
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: just that whatever, But Luke, would you say there is

443
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: a buzz and anticipation for what the first you know,

444
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: two rounds of this fight will look like that really

445
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 2: exceeded what you may have thought coming in. I mean,

446
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: this feels like a super fight, not just a really

447
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: really good and important UFC pay per view and in

448
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: already really good year despite everything in twenty twenty, I

449
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: feel like something happened this week, maybe just really good

450
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: promotion that really put this at another level.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a couple things I always tell folks,

452
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Speaker 1: like what's my barometer for how I know casual fans

453
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: are interested? Like I don't have friends who watch fights

454
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Speaker 1: except for like the biggest ones. I've had several reach

455
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: out about this. That was my first little spidery sense like, Okay,

456
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: there's a wave coming in. And then you and I

457
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: know on the CBS Sports HQ side, the more they're

458
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Speaker 1: asking for our services, the more they care. Well, we've

459
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Speaker 1: been int demand over there, so that's another one. And

460
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: then how much do radio stations around the country ask

461
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: me to come on their shows to preview the fights?

462
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, the more that happens, the bigger they are.

463
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: That's been happening a fair amount for me as well.

464
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Speaker 1: So it's like, man, all the pieces are lining up

465
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Speaker 1: in a huge way, which is amazing when you think

466
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: about it, because you know, it's not happening stateside. We're

467
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: living in a COVID era where it's hard to get

468
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: the word out with media, Like it's just you know,

469
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Speaker 1: for this to have this kind of a buzz. You're right, dude,

470
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Speaker 1: UFC's killing the game right now. There's just no denying it.

471
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you though, one thing I will say

472
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Speaker 1: that I really think is going to work. Well, I

473
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I think one thing that could work

474
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Speaker 1: in Gaiche's favor and why people are excited more generally

475
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: is you know, uman Co made obvious a global superstar.

476
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Speaker 1: But in terms of the fight at self PC I

477
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Speaker 1: put out a video on my personal YouTube channel looking

478
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Speaker 1: at the particular wrestling styles of Gechee. Gechee doesn't play

479
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: the same game that Poorier was trying to and I

480
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: realized that geyche wrestled in college, so it's a little

481
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: bit different. But here's what I mean. Poorier was like, listen,

482
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Speaker 1: if he takes me down, I'm going to get back up.

483
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Speaker 1: Gaichee's not going in there with that mentality. Gatechi's like, uh,

484
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, if I have to get up, I will,

485
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: but my plan is to not even get there. And

486
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Speaker 1: one thing I noticed in the tape was Alvarez tried it.

487
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: Poorier tried it. I think Johnson may have done it

488
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: as well, but for certainly those two guys tried it. Now,

489
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: those are not Number Goa Madov level wrestlers, not even close.

490
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: But both of them tried to pin Gaichie against the fence,

491
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: and every time, whether he was tired or rocked or whatever,

492
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: he never let them. He never lets anyone pin him

493
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Speaker 1: up against the fence. Well, that's where Number Goa Maydov

494
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: does his best work. I think early it's going to

495
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see to what extent is number

496
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Speaker 1: Gameydov able to get him to the fence line BC,

497
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Speaker 1: because in open space he doesn't get a lot of takedowns.

498
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Speaker 1: When he eventually gets them, it's along that fence line

499
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: and that's terrible. And even in our interview BC, Gechie

500
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta stay off the fence even he knows, Man,

501
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: that's a place you just don't want to be. He

502
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Speaker 1: has a skill in, Yeah, he has a skill built

503
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: in mental standpoint and on the mat itself to never

504
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: go there. I think that's the battle that's going to

505
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Speaker 1: decide everything, especially early.

506
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Speaker 2: Look, I have two important questions around about gae Chee

507
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: according to this fight. You know that effect this fight

508
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: that I really want to ask you, and you can

509
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: for this first one. You can tell me if we

510
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: are overblowing it, if we're making Trevor Whitman a Jedi

511
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: you know master here. But the Trevor Whitman factor Habib

512
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: mentioned during the original teleconference. You know, Justin's a good fighter,

513
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: but he's so well coached. He kept going back to

514
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: the coach. I don't have to tell you what Trevor's

515
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: done with Rose and what's you know, he's a master strategist.

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: Sometimes again, when an upset happens, you're like, man, I

517
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: didn't see that coming. I didn't think that was possible.

518
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: Are we not looking deeper into the fact that if

519
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: any one coach could could game plan against the great Habib,

520
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: it might be Trevor and he might have the perfect

521
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: foil and a guy who buys into everything he says

522
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Speaker 2: and is willing to carry it out. Is there any

523
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Speaker 2: extra magic surrounding that in your eyes?

524
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Speaker 1: Yes, you don't want to believe that somebody can just

525
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Speaker 1: be you know that one coach can look at it

526
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: and just be ahead of the game, But they can be.

527
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: And you guys know, I jock them, probably too harder

528
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: than I should, But it really is true. I've had

529
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: a conversation, you know, off the record with Eugene Barman, like,

530
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: what is it you see in the game that's missing

531
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Speaker 1: that you guys are able to fill? And he went

532
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: through and delineated it for me. And it was one

533
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: of these moments, man, where I just took the red pill,

534
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: like immediately. I had never seen the game that way

535
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Speaker 1: until he showed it to me. And now I can't

536
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Speaker 1: see it differently, and the way in which he was

537
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: able to explain it was just magic. Now, Trevor Whitman

538
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: has never shared his with his wisdom like that with me.

539
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Maybe one day I hope he does. But the little

540
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: pieces of information that he lets out tells me that

541
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: they see the game just a little bit differently than

542
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: everyone else, and those differences can make huge, huge, huge

543
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: impacts and fights. Is it going to be an up

544
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: against number Goo made off? I don't know. I guess

545
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: we'll see. But to answer your question, do I think

546
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Whitman understands the game such that he can game

547
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: plan or build into somebody who has a connection that

548
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: you know Atasignya, Barriman, Gaechie Whitman, that kind of connection,

549
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: those best practices that other people just don't see. Yes,

550
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: I absolutely believe that.

551
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: And look in one fight with Kamaru, he built in

552
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: a level of striking, sophistication and poison patients that I

553
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: don't think Usman showed before. So it is let's tip

554
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: the cap to him. Number two, Luke, do you put

555
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: any stock in what Geechee said over your life's history

556
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: that if one man can hold you down, too can

557
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: rape you Because I was caf guard by that.

558
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: Luke. He used that in other interviews too, It's like

559
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Speaker 1: that's his go to Apparently. I was like, dude, if

560
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: one can hold you down, one can rape you. Right.

561
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: I've never been on the bottom, look, so I don't

562
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: really know, but yeah, wow.

563
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, you know, you know. But

564
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's like that's in delicate and a

565
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: little bit rough around the edges in terms of the

566
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: thinking through things. But you gotta understand what these athletes

567
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: are trying to do here, right this I always tell

568
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: people like, fighting is not normal sport. I'm not even

569
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: sure fighting a sport at all. And the mentality you

570
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: have to have for certain situations and for readiness generally, listen,

571
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: it's not the kind of mentality you should probably share

572
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: in polite society, but if it's the kind of mentality

573
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: that helps you win, go to whatever place that maybe

574
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: you need to go to. And I think Geichee kind

575
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: of embraces that darkness frankly a little bit, both in

576
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: terms of what do I have to do for self

577
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: preservation and what do I have to do to really

578
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: hurt you? And I think that's also what really makes

579
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: him quite dangerous.

580
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, look, Geigee, even though he's a refined savage, Luke,

581
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: obviously he's a savage. So when I asked him that

582
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: question in our interview about that dark place, about not

583
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: only being willing to go there, but wanting to and

584
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: you know, the original UFC version of Gaichee was like,

585
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: how quickly can I get you to that dark place?

586
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: And it was, by the way interesting hearing him saying

587
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: how addictive those you know, the the shit your body

588
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: fills you with during those life and death moments. It's

589
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: an interesting drug. I guess you know. You know, cocaine

590
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: is a hell of a drug. I'm sure you know

591
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: death is as well. But Luke, I did want to

592
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: ask you, do you believe if this fight goes completely

593
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: off course for Habib, if he is suddenly in survival

594
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: mode and it's a Gee Chee style war, that he

595
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: both has the striking efficiency slash defense mixed with the

596
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Dagistan balls to meet Justin in that spot the same

597
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: way Eddie and Poorier did and have a chance at

598
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: beating Justin at Justin's own game. Should that be called for?

599
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: I I don't know that I see that as the

600
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: likeliest thing. Yeah, I mean, I suppose that's possible. I

601
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: suppose it's possible. I don't know. I don't I think

602
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: that's going a little bit, probably in direction that it

603
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: may not go. The only other thing that I'm wondering

604
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: BC is and I mentioned this. I think a couple

605
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: of times people under they misunderstand Neverer Gona made off striking.

606
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it's bad, well, sort of sort of

607
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: like if you just watched it on its own terms,

608
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: it wouldn't wow you. But when you realize that he's

609
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: got a three to one positive differential in terms of

610
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: strikes landed versus absorbed, you're like, Okay, that's impressive. He

611
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: absorbs less than two strikes per minute, which is very low,

612
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: super low, one of the lowest I've ever seen for

613
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: a UFC champion. And then when you realize is he

614
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: doesn't really truly open up until he's actually taking you

615
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: down a few times. And that's what makes it work

616
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: is because at that point folks have the fear of

617
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: God in them and they don't want to go back

618
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: to that place, and so he can just sort of

619
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: bang on you with things that ordinarily he would not

620
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: even try. That's why it tends to work, and I

621
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: think folks have really not wrapped their head around that

622
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's also never been cut and

623
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: he's never been dropped. That's what I'm looking for in

624
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: this one. Even if Justin loses, can you cut them?

625
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: Can you drop them? Because then we're gonna see truly

626
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: what you're made of, because Justin's been cut and he's

627
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: been dropped, and we know what he's made of.

628
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, scar tissue that I wish you saw all over

629
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: in there when you are pouring out Habib's stats, though, Look,

630
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: a lot of those stats are when he's in dominant

631
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: top position on the ground. I'd like to see his

632
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: standing striking statistics and see how those play out.

633
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know fair enough it'd be different, but

634
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I still bet it'd be pretty good. All right With

635
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: that in mind, B See, let's go now to the

636
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: co main event, a fight that is breezily passing through

637
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: no one is paying attention to, which I just find

638
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: utterly bizarre. Robert Whittaker taking on Jared Cannoneer. Okay, BC,

639
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I think you and I are in a little bit

640
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: more in lockstep on this one. I think both of

641
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: us are leaning a little bit towards Whitaker, understanding that

642
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: cannon Ear is a live dog. Okay, you see, let's

643
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: start there, though, Why is he a live dog? Why

644
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: is Jared Cannoneer somebody that folks should take seriously? Even

645
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: let's imagine we're talking to the biggest Robert Whitaker fan.

646
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: First and foremost, the idea that here's a former heavyweight

647
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: who has figured out the right weight class for him.

648
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: And you know, on the surface, he brings heavyweight power

649
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: down the middleweight well, even if that's not a thing,

650
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: he brings damaging, fight ending power. But I think even

651
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: more than that, Luke, he's a late bloomer, and sometimes

652
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: the guys who have taken losses before, even in different

653
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: weight classes, when they're figuring it out, but stick through

654
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: that and get out of that that sort of identity

655
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: as journeyman or average fighter or who is this fighter? Luke,

656
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: He's figured out the formula, and you know, it may

657
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: come through the prism of those really weird crystals that

658
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: he puts in his jock while he's training. I don't

659
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: know what he does with him. Look, but keep doing it, Jared,

660
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: because uh, There's a level of confidence in him that's scary,

661
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: and that can be an intangible that can be the

662
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: cherry on top. It also could be Luke the driving force.

663
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: This guy believes in himself. I love hearing him interviewed.

664
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: There is such a suave and cool It's almost like

665
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: he knows the ending. He knows the end of the book.

666
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: You know there's a secret that you haven't learned yet,

667
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: but he has. The crystals have told him. Luke Okay.

668
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: So that matters in this that this is his moment,

669
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: This is his chance to take that next final step

670
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: into legit title contention, rather than just being a tough

671
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: out or a guy on a hot streak. It really

672
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: comes down to that power. He can hang in there,

673
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: he could take damage, and he can finish this fight.

674
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: I think why you and I had an issue with

675
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: the initial line, and why you and I have sort

676
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: of showed our cards that as long as Robert Whitaker

677
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: is still Robert Whitaker, we like him. I think Robert

678
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: Whitaker has better talent, has better skills. But Jared Cannonier

679
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: is a legit title contending guy, and it just so

680
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: happens that he's entering this fight at the peak of

681
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: his powers mentally, and that matters, Luke.

682
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at his move down

683
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: to middleweight, the oddsmakers had him as a plus three

684
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: hundred underdog against David Branch, who Cannoneer demolished, and they

685
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: had him as a slight favorite over silvan On. That

686
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: fight was weird but okay, and then they had him

687
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: as a major dog to Jack Hermanson plus two fifty,

688
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: who he demolished there as well, finished both Branch and

689
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: her Manson. I think Kaotum both or TK at least

690
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: in one of the cases, finished them off with strikes.

691
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Let's say right now, it's true they also had him

692
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: as an underdog against Dominic Reyes, and Reyes demolished him,

693
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: so it's not like they're constantly wrong. But it is

694
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: to say that Cannoniir is a guy who took time

695
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: to get to the right weight class and took time

696
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: to get to the full maturation of his skills, and

697
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: as a consequence, there are a lot of people who

698
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: don't understand how good he is and don't accept the

699
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: full freight of all the skills he has to offer.

700
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: He has very good takedown defense, He's quick and nimble.

701
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: He's athletic strong for the weight class at middleweight, which

702
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: was not the issue at lightheadweight. He was way undersized.

703
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Like you saw that in Neglover to Sarify, we were

704
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: just getting taken down and passed. He doesn't have nearly

705
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: those same problems at middleweight. And as on top of that,

706
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: training at the lab with John Crouch, he's just gotten

707
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: so much better and so much better right, so he

708
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: can stick to a game plan. He's a powerhouse for

709
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: the weight class. He is conventional, and so I think

710
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: people just say, oh, well, the ones who are a

711
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: little bit more gifted with the modernity of their skills

712
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: will just be better than him. And I'm one of

713
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: those people in this particular case. But I do think

714
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: that I understand why Cannoneer deserves to be more taken

715
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: seriously than often he is. It's just for me, BC,

716
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: It's that you know, are we just gonna bury Whittaker

717
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: because he didn't look super impressive against Darren Till in

718
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: Israel out of Sonia winning one of those by the way,

719
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: he went one and one, But.

720
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: It's super impressive me and Luke if you out point

721
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: a guy and Darren Till and you you out technical

722
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: him in a fight that I think Till was the

723
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: reason it became technical, because, look, Whittaker sometimes maybe it

724
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: was detriment. He wants to fight. Look, he loves brawls.

725
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: He's a classy, skilled fighter who loves to mix it

726
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: up in a classy yet savage way. I think Till said, look,

727
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: the fight's gonna be on these terms. Roberts said, I'll

728
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: beat you on those terms. Brother, What are we talking about?

729
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: That?

730
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: He got dropped once? Okay, it happened. He won that fight.

731
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: What else do you want from the guy? All right?

732
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: And the other part about that is it's like we

733
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: talked about with Brian or take. He was like, I

734
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: didn't have the skills to play chess with Max for

735
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: the for the duration of that fight. Maybe a little

736
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: bit early, but not over the course. Well Whittaker did.

737
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Whittaker did have the skills to play chess with Hill

738
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. I understand taking Cannoneer seriously.

739
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: I am telling you, if you're watching this as part

740
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: of the audience, take Cannoneer seriously. Him winning is not

741
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: in any way way of surprise The Live Dogs or

742
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: such as. You know, it's a bit of a pick.

743
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm here, but if you want to consider Cannon near

744
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the underdog, and maybe you don't, but let's say you did,

745
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: and gaegee dude, take those two guys seriously, this is

746
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: a very very difficult fight for either person, whether it

747
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: be Whittaker or have you even never come made up.

748
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just pointing out the way in which Whittaker

749
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: has come back, shown restraint when he needed to. Smart's

750
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: when he needed to could do it over the long haul.

751
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: He's got the gas tank. You know, he's got to

752
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: know how, he's got speed on his side. He's faced

753
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: very tough customers at middleweight, and honestly, BC, am I

754
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: saying that Whittaker has the best chin I've ever seen. No,

755
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not even at Walter wait, and I'm sure the

756
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: weight cut factored in there. You know, he got dropped

757
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: by WonderBoy. Okay, fine, he doesn't have, you know, the

758
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: best chin in the world, but I don't think he's

759
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: got the worst one either. And if he's able to

760
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: moderate and calibrate in his style for the particular threats

761
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: that Cannon here, and remember this is only three rounds

762
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: he played chess with till for twenty five. He's got

763
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: ten less minutes to worry about. He can even drop around,

764
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: and I feel like he can still do just enough.

765
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Maybe not the most exciting fight, but he can do

766
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: just enough to get in, get out score and get

767
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: his hand raised, and maybe even more than that.

768
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: This fight reminds me Luke of in a way, sort

769
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: of like D C. Anthony Johnson two, where Cormier is

770
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: coming in off a loss, yet he's much more the

771
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: complete fighter. I know he's getting older, I know we'd

772
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: see him lose to the top level, but you know,

773
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: as long as he doesn't get caught, he's gonna win

774
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: this fight. That's how I look at whittick christ chances

775
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: here against cannoneer got it?

776
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Uh? And by the way, which one are you more

777
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: interested in seeing Whittaker out of Soignia two? I'm not

778
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: saying which is bigger, because that's a bigger fight, especially

779
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: if they put that in Australia or New Zealand that

780
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: one or cannoneir versus out a Signia, because understand you'd

781
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: be talking about are in that particular case who would

782
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: have beaten Robert Whittaker.

783
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I still think the rematch. I think Robert Whittaker

784
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: is a has more of a chance to beat Israel

785
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: out of Sonny than Cannon near would. Now I'm saying

786
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: that from what I know now, if Cannon here goes

787
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: out there and not just you know, let's say, stops Whittaker,

788
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: but beats him, meaning shows that he's the better fighter

789
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: over the course of that fight leading up to a finish,

790
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: it could recalibrate, you know what we think of this.

791
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: But I think there's potential for the Whittaker out of

792
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: Sonya rematch, and really that rivalry to be so good

793
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: and mean so much that a Whittaker win heer on

794
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: Saturday might get us off the idea of this John

795
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Jones out of Sonya fight, at least in the short term, Luke,

796
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 2: because you know, out of Sonya won that first fight,

797
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: and you know, fair and Claire knocked him out straight up.

798
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: But Whittaker was going through a tough stretch in that one.

799
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: Out of Sonya was the rising star of the rocket

800
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: ship taken off. We get that a second time. It's

801
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: a super Bowl down Under, as we know. I think

802
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: it's going to be a closer fight. I think it's

803
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a better fight, and I think it's gonna

804
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: be a great fight, so in much bigger than my

805
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: expectations of what a canon near one would look like.

806
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: All right, what else on this card has captured your imagination?

807
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's a bit of a pooh poop platter

808
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: of interesting mixed things. I do want to see what

809
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: Walt Harris looks like coming off of a disastrous Overream loss,

810
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: where you know, it looked like we had set up

811
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: for the ultimate feel good story in a way, although

812
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily feel good when somebody loses a child,

813
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: as he lost his stepchild, and a win, doesn't you know,

814
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: fix that? But that fight was supposed to be all about, look,

815
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: you beat Overreim, you're a legitimate title contender. Well look,

816
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: as we know, for like a minute, it looked like

817
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: he was gonna beat Overream and then he screwed up

818
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: and it all fell apart. I like this test against

819
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Alexander Volkov because you know, a no one really looks

820
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: good against Volkov and be he's also a guy. Though,

821
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: if you wrestle him, if you stay consistent, if you

822
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: stay away, you know, if you can get inside of

823
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: his great striking range. You can win this fight. So

824
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: I like Harris to win this. The odds are for

825
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: a reason. It's not gonna be easy. But if Harris

826
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: is the potential title contender that we have seen glimpses

827
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: of Luke, I think we're going to see it on Saturday,

828
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to win. And look if

829
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: he can win dominantly, if there's that potential in this

830
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: really Luke, he's a heavyweight title contender, more of a

831
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, more of a dark horse. But but I'd

832
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: like to see him get this chance to redeem himself

833
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 2: because God, that had a hurt the way he lost

834
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: over him. Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough pill to swallow, Luke.

835
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: I know, you swallow a lot of pills so you

836
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: can sleep at night, but that's a tough pill to swallow.

837
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I do swallow a lot of pills. I'm gonna go

838
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: with I'll go Casey Kenny Nathaniel wood Kenny is one

839
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: of these rising prospects at Bansaway. Nathaniel would as same

840
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: as well. Had a bit of a setback I think

841
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: against Dotson, but you know, I think rebounded. Since it's

842
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: very close in the odds, Kenny, a really good wrestler,

843
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: scrambler front headlock series kind of guy. Nathaniel would have

844
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: think a little bit more deadly on the feet, but

845
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: he can scramble his ass off too. That I think

846
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: should be a ton of fun. And don't lose sight

847
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: of Leanna Joujoua taking on Miranda Maverick. Miranda Maverick a

848
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: PhD candidate I think out of old dominion university in

849
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: psychology or sociology, one of the two. But she's gonna

850
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: be doctor Miranda Maverick here before too long, BC, I don't.

851
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: See that ass name. That's a great story a. But

852
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: that's like a that's like a tomb raider Laura Carle.

853
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: That's like a badass, like action movie name, like Miranda Maverick.

854
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's not a stuperd name. It's like a.

855
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: It's just like this straight up hot badass name. Like

856
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: shout out to her on that uh luke also smiling.

857
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: Sam Alvi might not be smiling anymore. He's got a

858
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: four fight losing streak and he's in there against that

859
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: da On Jung guy who's a monster favorite. Are we

860
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: gonna be saying goodbye to Sam?

861
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: Alvi Captain Covid. I don't know, you know, I mean,

862
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm not.

863
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, Are you as into them?

864
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: The prelim main event, that potential slopfest of the skyscraper

865
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: against the guy who craps in his shoes. You into

866
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: that because I look, you gotta save his job. Bro,

867
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: They're both they both lost a a hell of a lot.

868
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: This thing could be it. I know you're like, X

869
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: you slappy, Look, this could be fantastic.

870
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be a weird one. Tooey Voss

871
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be in the words of Joe Rogan swinging

872
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: for the bleachers and Struve, It's like, are we gonna

873
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be the Strew that finally fights tall?

874
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Probably not, because he's this far into his career and

875
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: it's just not what he does. I even asked him

876
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: about that and he was like, yeah, I fight the

877
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: way I fight. So you know, he didn't tell me.

878
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: You know, he looks like in that picture right there.

879
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: You ever see Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, doesn't he

880
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: look like the damn grim Reaper in that picture right there?

881
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: He looks like, is that dude powder? The movie powder.

882
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: He looks at that dude.

883
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, shot out to Stephan. Sure might have no

884
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: disrespect for you.

885
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: But he's a very nice guy. Yeah, he's a very Oh.

886
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, look he's been unique and he's got some nice wins.

887
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: He knocked out Steve Babebio chitch bro. People don't do that, Luke.

888
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: He was the next he was in. He was the

889
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: next semi shilt, but then he wasn't you know? So anyway,

890
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: dunk Luke?

891
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: Can he dunk?

892
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: I think he can dunk? Flat footed?

893
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: Luke, have you ever dunked?

894
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: I have dunked. I know you don't believe that, but

895
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: I have dunked.

896
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have that talk. Yeah I don't know.

897
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay, just because that is incomprehensible to a zero like

898
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: you doesn't mean it's not possible for me. All Right,

899
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: what do you say to you?

900
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: A solid six or four, Luke? Like, in theory you

901
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: should dunk, but I don't see you having ups. You

902
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: were you were no disrespect you. You beat up some

903
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: people on a Washington sidewalk and a wife beater. But Luke,

904
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: you don't look like the guy like I could see

905
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 2: you doing gruff things like like ground game and powerlifting,

906
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: and you know, I would I assumed you were like

907
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: a d tackle in high school. Apparently you were. You

908
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: were figuring out the Pcythagorean theorem instead. But uh, I

909
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: don't see you having ups though, Luke. And that's not

910
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: necessarily disrespectful for me to say. It's more realistic.

911
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's what I'll say. Consistently underrated, consistently overlooked

912
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: is the story of my career. But dunking on the

913
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: haters is really the final chapter. So, uh, last thing

914
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: on this. We don't know if Ion kute Laba versus

915
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: maca Man on Calia is going to happen. By the way,

916
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: this is almost like the Tony versus Kabeb fight at middleweight,

917
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: but not quite here's what I mean, or light heavyweight

918
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is. They did fight in Norfolk, but it

919
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: was the weird, terrible stoppage from Kevin McDonald. And then

920
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: they've tried to make it like seventeen times since then,

921
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: and everyone keeps getting COVID so they can't do it.

922
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: So they finally put it on Fight Island, and then

923
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: a report came out that kute Laba was one of

924
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: his cornermen tested positive for COVID, so they had another

925
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: dude wagh in just in case. So I'm not telling

926
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: you as of right now that that fight is off,

927
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: but be on the lookout cause it might BEBC.

928
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think the universe is telling the UFC

929
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: just stop it. Just stop it already. Bro, all right,

930
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna have it your way or nothing

931
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: at all, but I think you're moving too fast.

932
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: You're really making up for your lack of nineties references

933
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the week with today's show. Okay, with that

934
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: in mind, sir, we are consistently wrong on this show,

935
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: and we don't hide from it. In fact, we celebrate it.

936
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Please take over, Yes, thank you. This is one of

937
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: our better news segments. There The other ones sometimes maybe good,

938
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: sometimes maybe shit, but this is dead wrong where we

939
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: take that l Look, when you do three shows a week,

940
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: a lot of shit comes out of your mouth. Okay,

941
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: sometimes it smells. Let's tell you what did smell. Let's

942
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: start off here, Luke. When you here's dead wrong.

943
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: It was an animation.

944
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: There we go. When discussing Jessica Andraja's future, Luke and

945
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: talking about her sweet high fade, you called way le

946
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: Jong the UFC Women's bandam weight champ bro she's the

947
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: damn strawweight Champe.

948
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I know she is. I clearly misspoke, Yes, obviously, one

949
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds. That's just See, sometimes we're wrong

950
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: because we actually just don't know the shit. And then

951
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: sometimes we're wrong because I got four hours of sleep

952
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: last night because my daughter barfed on me and I

953
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: can't think straight. That was one of those opportunities. But yes,

954
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: fair enough I was wrong, but in a different kind

955
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: of way of course. Know she's not a bantamwink, all right.

956
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: The great Luke Roman Choko Latito Gonzalez returns tonight on

957
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: on his own. Actually, in a sneaky good card of

958
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: the Superflies, I incorrectly said when referencing that twenty seventeen

959
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: war with Sri Siquette sore rung Visa, I say that

960
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: three times that the first fight was won by Chocolatito

961
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: at the Mason Scuore Guard. No, No, it was a

962
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: disputed and and close decision when four SSR Luke, and

963
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: then as we know, in the rematch, SSR came back

964
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: and sent chocol Latito to hell the a vicious knockout.

965
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: Luke I don't think you're woke enough. That's why we

966
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: have that show Boxing hard Course to celebrate. There's more

967
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: weirdness in this sport of boxing, Luke, than MMA has

968
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: ever known. Even with Joe sn and just Bleed Guy

969
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: and all that in stem all that, you don't know

970
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: the weirdness that goes on in boxing. Let me tell you.

971
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: Sri Siquett's sore Rung visides like many great Thai athletes,

972
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: sold his name to like a company, you know what

973
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: I mean, Like there was a great tie boxer.

974
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: Dudes will have. These dudes will have the last name

975
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: of their gyms or like here's here's knock upon fair Text.

976
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: It's like what there's a boxer called CP Freshmart. There

977
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: was a guy foss on three K battery. I mean

978
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: it's incredible. So not only do you have that going,

979
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: because that's not so wrung. Besides real name number two, Luke,

980
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: do you know that in his native Thailand, it's customary

981
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: to eat rat. So after he knocked out Chocolatito and

982
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: got off the airplane in Thailand, they had a plane

983
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: of it with a dead rat, and he picked it

984
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: up and he ate it.

985
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: Luke, you know what I'm trying not to shame people

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: for you know, living in places where you do that.

987
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Ye would you eat bugs? Would you eat like salted

988
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: grasshopper or whatever?

989
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: No? No, well it depends on the situation. You get

990
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: a couple drinks. Like I always said, Look it's my

991
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 2: it's my Kentucky Derby theory.

992
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Right.

993
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: You know those those evil rich people in Japan, men

994
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: who are buying off the X race horse champions so

995
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: they can serve the meat as a delicacy at a

996
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: rich steakhouse. I don't want to eat horse, but if

997
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: I did have the chance, Luke, and you told me

998
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: I can eat secretariat, Like, come on, dude, I gotta

999
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: try it, right.

1000
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: What's the weirdest animal you've eaten?

1001
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Not? Not too weird? You know? I had chances to

1002
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: eat the Rocky Mountain oysters and I didn't, you know,

1003
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: the bulls ball whatever. I don't know. I mean I've

1004
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: had I've had really high level squid and thrown up afterwards,

1005
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: So I you know, I don't really mess around with that, Luke.

1006
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't I have had the weirdest meat I think

1007
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I have had. Maybe I'm wrong about this. Uh, two

1008
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: different kinds one was rattlesnake. I've eaten a rattlesnake before,

1009
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: not delicious. And the other one was gar. You ever

1010
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: heard of a gar? No? What is that?

1011
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: Is that?

1012
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: It's an invasive species that lives in like uh in,

1013
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: like Georgia Florida swamp. They look like goddamn prehistoric creatures.

1014
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: They've got these huge scales on their sides, they're super long,

1015
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: and they eat catfish and they have snout with teeth.

1016
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I've eaten gar before as well. That was not good either.

1017
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Very gamey.

1018
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: Let me tell you one more thing I love about

1019
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: sources to get sore rung viside Luke after the two

1020
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: truck Latito wins, it was time for him to be

1021
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: a star. He took this long layoff and they asked

1022
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: him why. He said because his longtime girlfriend broke up

1023
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: with him and he needed a He needed a year

1024
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: off for a broken heart.

1025
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Luke bro I understand that. I've been there, been there.

1026
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been there. Shout out to that guy being

1027
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: so real. He's like, I'll eat that rat. I don't

1028
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: care what you think. I'll eat that shit, all right.

1029
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: You've never if you've never, if you've never cried in

1030
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: public for no reason. You're just you've never been in love. Bro.

1031
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing.

1032
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: Bro.

1033
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: You know is it better to have loved and been

1034
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: sent to hell or not loved at all? And I'm like,

1035
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: come on, look, you know hey, you know what, you

1036
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: know what we got wrong this week on Monday? Have

1037
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: you seen this ship? And you and I owe a

1038
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: dead a dong of gratitude to the people. I don't

1039
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: know how we missed this, Luke. I don't know how

1040
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: we did it. But when we showed that couple who

1041
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: have already won Halloween with the greatest Predator double Halloween

1042
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: costume of all time, showing the the heat sensor of

1043
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: the guy's body, Luke, we missed the fact that Rako

1044
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: Safreddi was hiding there in his bvds. Luke, that is great.

1045
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, this guy is a three

1046
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: inch er, but I love the how committed he is

1047
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: to the bit where his dong touches his hip. That

1048
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: is awesome. God bless this gentleman, that guy.

1049
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: If if I had micro penis stulu Go, I'd be

1050
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: wearing that thing around. But I don't know how, Luke,

1051
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: how do we miss it? How? I mean, how you

1052
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: know how.

1053
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: The dude that is shameful that we missed that. That is,

1054
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: honest to God, pathetic on our part. The first thing

1055
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: we should do is just look at their crosh how

1056
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: are we you know? Oh nice costume, mar you really

1057
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: sold it? Not even looking at this dude's you know,

1058
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: pork and beans. Really pathetic on our part.

1059
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: Not good, uh, Luke final l will take this week

1060
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: on dead wrong. We were debating on Wednesday show. If

1061
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: Justin Gaechee beats Habib, he will have beaten Ferguson and

1062
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: New Macha metto f in the same calendar year. Is

1063
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: that the greatest calendar year in UFC history? We compared

1064
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: it to twenty sixteen, Amanda Nunas. You know a couple others, Luke,

1065
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: there were we missed a few. Some people came at

1066
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: me with them. I looked it up. I'm gonna read

1067
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 2: them to you real quick. Just tell me if they

1068
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: belong in this debate. You ready?

1069
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: Look? Okay? Okay?

1070
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: George Saint Pierre in two thousand and six defeated BJ

1071
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: Penn defeated Matt Hughes. Yes, there weren't washed. Then those

1072
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: are prime wins. That's a great year Chuck Ladell with.

1073
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: A two thousand and six win is somewhat disputed. That's

1074
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: why for b Jipin.

1075
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: Chuck Ladell in two thousand and six beats Randy Cotour,

1076
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: destroys bab alusobral and then wins the giant rematch with

1077
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Tito Ortiz. That's prime iceman.

1078
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, that's all. That's that's one of those

1079
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: great years, all right.

1080
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Friend of the program, Sugar. Rashad Evans in two thousand

1081
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: and eight sends Chuck Ladell to the floor of Hell

1082
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: in a starmaking performance and then stopped Hall of Famer

1083
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: Forrest Griffin to win a UFC title.

1084
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: Is the end, No, But I'll say this, those two

1085
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: wins are pretty impressive because as a year I couldn't

1086
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: put that one in there. But uh, he beat Chuck

1087
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Ladell in Atlanta. The whole crowd wanted Rashad to lose,

1088
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: and when he knocked out Ladell. Go back and watch

1089
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: it on a fight pass. You've never seen an audience

1090
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: so quiet in your life. They couldn't believe that Rashad

1091
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: had done it. First, and then the second part was

1092
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Rashad became the first Ultimate Fighter winner to become champions.

1093
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: So it was historic in that way, but just as

1094
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: like an achievement kind of thing. I could not put

1095
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: that on par with like beating Hughes and Saint Pierre.

1096
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hughes up penn our guy.

1097
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Rashad was on the top of the world though, after

1098
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: that year and then the.

1099
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Movie, Oh yeah, I started, Oh yeah, that was I

1100
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: mean when he knocked him out and then he did,

1101
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: remember that he did the Sanford and Son Red Fox

1102
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: after that, Oh my god, that was I mean, that

1103
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: was that was Rashad at the top of his game.

1104
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Well, raf Ray Bartholme, how about Luke Thomas, Luke Thomas,

1105
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: how about twenty eleven's dominant Cruz Tell me if this

1106
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: fits in? He beat your Ayah Faber in their rematch

1107
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: and then he beat Demitris Johnson in the same calendar year.

1108
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: Are we overrating it because DJ wasn't DJ yet.

1109
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: I was there for that fight against DJ. DJ was

1110
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: totally competitive on the feet. It was that Dominic was better,

1111
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: but he was also bigger, and that made a huge

1112
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: difference in the wrestling game. You know, Brad Pickett was

1113
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: able to take down Demetris Johnson at one hundred and

1114
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: thirty five. Uh, this is sort of interesting. I would

1115
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: love to see how the modern DJ would do up

1116
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: a weight class. We saw that with Sahudu. We did

1117
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: pretty well. But it's not that it's not a great win.

1118
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: It's a great win, but I don't think it counts

1119
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: in the way that the other ones do.

1120
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: Did you see, by the way, Luke, that Chautre put

1121
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: out a press release that said one Championship is averaging

1122
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: twenty nine million viewers per card during the quarantine.

1123
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: I I'm surprised the numbers that small. BC. I can't

1124
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: believe it. Just twenty nine million? Wow?

1125
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: All right, real quick? Two more for you, Luke. Twenty

1126
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 2: thirteen Mohawk TRT Vitor Belfort spinning knockouts against Michael bisbeing

1127
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Dan Henderson and Luke Rockell that two o five tell

1128
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: me that that that doesn't fit in this debate. I

1129
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: think it does.

1130
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: Look really it does.

1131
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: No title at steak, but it does, Okay.

1132
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: It does.

1133
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: And then the final one, how do we look over this?

1134
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen McGregor, Dude, Dennis sever Chad Mendes, Money Mendez

1135
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 2: for the interim title and then a one punch knockout

1136
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: in thirteen seconds over the King Josie Aldo.

1137
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it belongs in the debate. I wouldn't

1138
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: put it as high as a lot of other choices.

1139
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: The sever one was a bit of a setup fight,

1140
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: but he won. The Mendes fight was last minute and

1141
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: he still won even though he was injured. And then

1142
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: it culminated in the Aldo win, So like there was

1143
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: this crescendo and for that reason it deserves to be counted.

1144
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, that is dead wrong, Luke, we're back

1145
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: alive again. Okay, we're I'm not afraid to take an out.

1146
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: Bring it, bring it, Luke. Okay, I'm like you. I'll

1147
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: pick I'll pick gaychee byob said, and I'll eat that

1148
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: chip next week if I have do you all right?

1149
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: All right? Very good, Which brings us to our homework assignment,

1150
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: and then we'll do tip to tip very quickly. BC.

1151
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: The homework assignment for this week was to watch Patrise

1152
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: O'Neil's Elephant in the Room, and it was a special

1153
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: I think Comedy Central aired it. I watched it on YouTube.

1154
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I paid like five bucks for or whatever it was,

1155
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: and I rewatched it.

1156
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, you paid, you paid today for it, or

1157
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: you paid no?

1158
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: No, So here's what yeah back then, and I still

1159
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: had it because I could. Yeah, So I went back

1160
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: and I rewatched it. I've got a lot of feelings

1161
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: about it. But I'm the one. I think I could

1162
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: be wrong about this, But I'm the one that introduced

1163
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: you to Patrise O'Neil. Yes, I will say this is

1164
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: not Patrise O'Neil's best work, not even close, but it

1165
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: is his last televised stand up special before he tragically

1166
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: passed away. Give me your review and your score.

1167
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So look, look, you know there are certain things

1168
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: I believe in my my homework and artistic ability and

1169
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: ability to to sort of be critical of you know,

1170
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: we're talking music, we're talking fights whatever. I'm a little

1171
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: underscored on great comedy specials. You know I love No

1172
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Cure for Cancer. You know, I'm a Chris Rock guy.

1173
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: I don't have a long history though, So I came

1174
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: into this a little apprehensive, Luke, if I would love

1175
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: this on the level that you do and would be

1176
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: able to understand its place in sort of the modern

1177
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: comedy special pantheon. So I was almost looking to doubt it.

1178
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: I was always almost looking to not pop for it

1179
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: and not laugh. But I gotta say, at the end

1180
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: of the day, Luke, this was as advertised. This was

1181
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. And not having known Patris O'Neil, even though

1182
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: now that I watched this, I remember I have seen,

1183
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, bits of his comedy before, I just didn't

1184
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: have the name with the face. It's oh, that guy,

1185
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: the big black guy. Yeah, I know, I know, the

1186
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: big black guy. Okay, Luke, I'm sorry that it is

1187
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: what it is, all right. I didn't know his full

1188
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: repertoire and ability to carry out a full special. Here's

1189
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: what I love about him, Luke. I don't know if

1190
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: anyone's ever compared Patrisa O'Neil to Bob Dylan, but there's

1191
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: a there's a simplistic genius in there. What I mean

1192
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: by that is Dylan had a crappy voice and three

1193
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: chord songs on acoustic guitar with a harmonica. Yah wrote

1194
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: some of the most important, brilliant stuff that stands attest

1195
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: the time. As I'm watching this with a critical eye,

1196
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if Patrese has the certainly

1197
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: has the ability, the delivery, certainly has the charisma. Does

1198
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: he have the material to give for me to give

1199
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: him a high score? And you know what I found

1200
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: out quickly, Luke. It's not just his ability to work

1201
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: in audience, which is such an important skill depending on

1202
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: your comedic style. He's virtuoso at that, which extends a joke,

1203
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: it creates more comedy to play off of its improv

1204
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: It's incredible. He's awesome at that. But his ability, Luke,

1205
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: to take a joke, even a simple joke, and just

1206
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: stretch it. Go Jerry Garcia on that. Take take one

1207
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: note with the guitar and just stretch it. And I'll

1208
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: give him this every single turn where I thought he

1209
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: had milked that joke too far, or he had stretched it,

1210
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: or you know what, maybe he doesn't have good shit there.

1211
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a couple of good jokes, but he don't

1212
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: have a full repertoire. He comes around the corner with

1213
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: another one of those zingers, another one of those next

1214
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: level where you're like he was waiting, he was playing you,

1215
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: he was building, and he brought it. His delivery is fantastic.

1216
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: His ability to just prey on things that can topics

1217
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: that can be cliche, the difference between white people and

1218
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: black people, the difference between women and men in a relationship.

1219
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: But you just be fresh and new with it and

1220
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: really be able to take stuff that deep down inside

1221
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: as a guy. I'm not saying, you know, I'm plotting

1222
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: murder of my level and that you know that's a funny,

1223
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: extreme joke, but the stuff that is real in a

1224
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: relationship between a man in the way. I mean, he's

1225
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: brilliant at pulling that out of the from the surface.

1226
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: This show got better as it went on and on,

1227
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: and my score kept getting higher. I don't know what

1228
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: did I end down for a score? Can we replace this?

1229
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: Because I kept emailing Mikey back and be like, no,

1230
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: hold on, I got I got to off my score again.

1231
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: I just finished it here. I gave it a nine

1232
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: point two, Luke, it could be a ten out of

1233
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: a ten in this genre. I'm not deep enough to

1234
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: be able to rate that. But I was absolutely entertained,

1235
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: and I'm very, very impressed with his skill set as

1236
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: a comedian, And I'd like you to be able to,

1237
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, tell me if I'm sort of on with

1238
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: what makes him great, you know, I mean, the charisma,

1239
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: brings you in. But he is really brilliant in his delivery.

1240
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's the special sauce of this well.

1241
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: I told you like with his crowd work. The way

1242
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: I introduced you to Patrise O'Neil was with his last

1243
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: recorded special, not televised but recorded, which he recorded at

1244
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: the DCM Prov. Dcmprov was his favorite comedy club. He

1245
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: said it explicitly on interviews in all of the country.

1246
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: And remember he made fun of that African dude whose

1247
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: name was Tolu. Remember that. And he just went on

1248
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: a five minute thing where he ripped that guy to shreds.

1249
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: But here's the funny thing. And I think you picked

1250
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: up on this as well, whether he was making a

1251
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: joke about why there should be a National harassment Day

1252
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: in the workplace between men and women.

1253
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: Smell the seat, Luke, smell the sea. Come on, I

1254
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: lost it. I lost my shit at that moment. I

1255
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: love it everything.

1256
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: You know he does all of this. I know that

1257
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: there are prob some women who probably feel attacked or

1258
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: when he makes fun of you know the difference between

1259
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: blacks and whites. I'm sure there are some members of

1260
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: the audience who are aggrieved. But Patrisea O'Neil to me

1261
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: stands out for two reasons in that regard. One, to me,

1262
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: totally at ease with the audience. I mean, he could

1263
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: just improv if he wanted to, the fact that he

1264
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: has written material obviously is much more polished. But you know,

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Speaker 1: he always said ten percent of the audience should hate

1266
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: you at the end of a show, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like he gets there. But I feel like for the

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: other ninety percent, of which I consider my part, I

1269
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: never feel attacked. I never feel like he wasn't in

1270
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Speaker 1: on the joke with me. I never felt like, as

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Speaker 1: much as I might be a target as you know,

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: nerdy white guy or whatever he would label me or you, as,

1273
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: he would still sort of understand everyone's got a place,

1274
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: and everyone takes a turn at the stick, and that's

1275
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: just what it is. So I always felt like there

1276
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: was a certain humanity in his insult humor. There was

1277
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: a certain kind of it's okayness right to this oftentimes

1278
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: fairly savage critiques of either society or the way groups interacted. Now,

1279
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: the one reason why I'm going to give it a

1280
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: slightly lower score than you. You can put my screen

1281
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: score up on the screen here, I gave it a

1282
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: let's see if they show it here, I gave it

1283
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Speaker 1: a nine. The reason why is because this is Patrisea

1284
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: O'Neil wrestling with his mortality. He references his diabetes that

1285
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: was a major factor in his death, and you can

1286
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: also hear him in the football bit right BC where

1287
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: he talks about the game that they played is not

1288
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: the game that people play now, and it's they don't

1289
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: even think of it the same. You can see him

1290
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: wrestling with the idea that he's aging out of the world,

1291
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: in which he understood. We didn't get to see that

1292
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: fully played out because tragically he passed away. But if

1293
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: you know Patris O'Neil from when he was like his

1294
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: most gruff, his most in your face, still there was

1295
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: humanity to the insult, but it was much more of

1296
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: a command of it's not just really the way that

1297
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: I see the world, this is the way that the

1298
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: world is, and this one was him wrestling with that

1299
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: way in which I saw it is just being replaced,

1300
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: and so there was he was almost a little quieter

1301
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: as a consequence, and that's hard to appreciate if you've

1302
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: not seen his other material. But the one thing I

1303
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: think that I hope everyone took away from this is

1304
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: Jim Norton used to talk about Patrise O'Neil and say

1305
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: that when these guys were in their New York heyday

1306
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: in the aughts, it'd be it'd be it'd be Bill Burr,

1307
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: it'd be Nick Depolo, Jim Norton, Colin Quinn, it'd be

1308
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: who was the masturbator, Luis c k. They'd all show

1309
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: up and they'd be they'd kill each other as there.

1310
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: There's this cafe above the Comedy Seller. It's called the

1311
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: Olive Tree Cafe, and I've been there of even there.

1312
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: It's just a sort of standard Middle Eastern joint, and

1313
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: they would all sit in the back there and just

1314
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, rag on each other before it was their

1315
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: turn to go on stage. And they would all say

1316
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: it'd be, you know, fairly even contest back and forth

1317
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: until Patrise showed up. And then when Patrise showed up,

1318
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: This is Jim Norton's words, you always knew that Dad

1319
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: was home. He was better than all of them.

1320
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: It's like what the SNL people say about Farley, and

1321
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: I think there's similarities there, even though Patrice is not

1322
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: as physical, but it's more like it looks like it

1323
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: comes so easy for both of them that it's so

1324
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: natural they don't have to work for That's what I'm

1325
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: saying about the material. It's almost like, you know, he

1326
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: don't even care how deep the material is because he's

1327
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: gonna make it work. And there's times look when he's

1328
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: embarrassing women in the front row and you're like, okay,

1329
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: I almost you're like, is he digging for material? No,

1330
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: he's just setting them up and then coming around with

1331
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 2: the knockout blow.

1332
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's brilliant, and the timing is

1333
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: it's very slow and then all of a sudden, very

1334
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: slow and then all of a sudden, and it seems

1335
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: so intentional by design to do that. But this is

1336
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: the thing I want to mention. He could do crowd work.

1337
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: He was at ease. But comedians have one problem. They

1338
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: think that what they do is a much in general,

1339
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: a much higher art form than what it is. Is.

1340
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: Comedians love to like talk about how they are the

1341
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, they are the therapist and they're the I

1342
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: don't know, the psychologists, and they're the ones the sociologists,

1343
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: and they've figured out everything and like they've really got

1344
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: the most unique view on the world, and more often

1345
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: than not, that's really not quite true, or at least

1346
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: not as true as they think it is. It's always

1347
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: true with Patrese. He is so gifted at looking at something,

1348
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: turning it on its head, representing it to you, and

1349
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: making you believe that the way in which he sees

1350
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: it is actually the right way, and we've been wrong

1351
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: all along.

1352
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: This very good story of your that's the story of

1353
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: your combat analyst career. Luke, Okay, Well.

1354
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean the other part is, you know, wouldn't you

1355
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: say this? He's fearless, you know, talking about titty meet

1356
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: in the front row with people and you know, look,

1357
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: black lady, if you go miss and they're not looking

1358
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: for you, and like just like he's total taboo topics

1359
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: and just railing right into it, being at ease with it,

1360
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: sharing you with it, twisting it, representing it to you.

1361
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 1: To me, he was the best comedian of his era.

1362
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: It's a shame he's gone and I miss him every day.

1363
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: And why he's not as abrasive as the dice clay

1364
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: is because I think there's you know, there's humility. He

1365
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: takes shots at himself. There's sort of you know, he

1366
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: lays the full foundation, so you don't come out of there,

1367
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: even if you're offended, you don't come out of their

1368
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: upset at the end, Luke Wold, Now I see the

1369
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: influence he has on your career as a Look, what

1370
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: we do is art, Luke, there's an entertainment level obviously

1371
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: when you when you get people are paying you to

1372
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: be on camera. So I see that, and I hope

1373
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: you don't perish you to diabetes anytime soon. Luke, please

1374
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: take care of her something.

1375
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm good to go, and that's it. I

1376
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: hope folks liked it. So there you have it.

1377
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: No, I loved it it. It really made me want

1378
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: to go deep in this regard and maybe maybe you know,

1379
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: it'll pop up again in our in our sort of

1380
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: unnamed homework segment here that we do every week, uh,

1381
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, to to sort of go a little bit

1382
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: deeper on this.

1383
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Look.

1384
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm gonna go on a run late at night,

1385
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: you know, call of Netflix, or maybe maybe I'll start

1386
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: write my own What do you think about Big Beige

1387
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: coming out with an MK comedy special called You're Not

1388
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: Surprised at.

1389
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: All, I'm gonna throw rotten tomatoes at you in the

1390
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: front row.

1391
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you Gallagher. Hit some hit

1392
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: some watermelons. That'll be my finish, all right, hit some

1393
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: giant dongs yet.

1394
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: It's our last segment. But take it away, all right.

1395
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: You know what we do every Friday now. It is

1396
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: called tip on tip, Tip to tip, just the tip.

1397
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: Here's the tip. The tips are now touching. The theme

1398
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: of this segment loop is that we are going to

1399
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: give advice, a recommendation, uh, you know, anything here at

1400
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: the end of the week, just just for a second,

1401
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: just to see how it feels.

1402
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: Look.

1403
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: I got an email this week. Okay, well I'm gonna

1404
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: read this, okay please. It's from a gentleman named Austin Crestos.

1405
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: He emailed Morningcombat at gmail dot com, where you can

1406
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: have your voice be heard, suggest things, tell us you

1407
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: hate us, email us anthrax. Whatever you want to do,

1408
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: we'll receive it. He says, good afternoon, Brian. I hope

1409
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: this email finds you well. I had a quick question,

1410
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: how do you take such good care of your old

1411
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: school and new school pro wrestling and MMA T shirts?

1412
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: They always look brand new, and I know some have

1413
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: years on them. Is it a specific detergent? Do you

1414
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: always iron which is difficult on graphic t's with decals?

1415
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: How long do you dry them? Etc? And etc? No

1416
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: bacon neck ever, You're damn right, brother, Just how do

1417
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: you do it? Please share the wisdom please when you

1418
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: have a spare moment. I know you're a busy man,

1419
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: but Morning Combat is the best thing going today. Whoo,

1420
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: thank you so much for the consistent entertainment. Stay safe.

1421
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: Austin Crestos, a Morning Combat fan Austin and Company. Let

1422
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: me say it so, Number one, I do have a

1423
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: T shirt addiction. I try to buy as many of

1424
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: them as cheap as possible because I'm cheap. Though I'm

1425
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: not the type of dude that plans on reselling these

1426
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: later in life. Let's just get that out of the question.

1427
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm not collecting them to wow you, and I'm also

1428
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: not putting them in plastic bags in my closet. But

1429
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: with that said, even going back to high school, I

1430
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: was sort of ahead on realizing that you get a

1431
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: shirt that you love, it's like your favorite T shirt. Look,

1432
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: you don't treat it right, It's it's gonna be gone

1433
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: in two years. You got to ask yourself straight up

1434
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: when you're buying cool graphic shirts. Are you buying them

1435
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: because you love them, you love the way they look

1436
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: on you feel, look in the mirror, whatever. Or you're

1437
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: buying them because they're pretty damn cool and they make

1438
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: you look cooler, as long as you figure that out

1439
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: in which direction you go. Pretty much, it's because they

1440
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: make you look cool and you're cooler, so you gotta

1441
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: take care of them. So here's the quick dues and

1442
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: don'ts on that that I follow now. Full disclosure, I

1443
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: don't follow any of these rules. During the damn quarantine,

1444
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: all bets are off. I don't shower much anymore. If

1445
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: I go to the hardware store, I'm wearing the same

1446
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: shirt with the sweatpants that I slept in. I think

1447
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: we're all there, but normally.

1448
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,480
Speaker 1: You sleeping sweatpants?

1449
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, us, what are you sleeping? Tidies? Look, I

1450
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: don't want to know. I don't want to know what

1451
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: you're sleeping. Maybe i'll find out the next Red Shoe Diaries.

1452
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: Hotels, you're definitely the next, the next, the next, the

1453
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: rooms of his Diaries. We're bunking up.

1454
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: Here we go. You got a T shirt you like,

1455
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: you gotta treat it like a dress shirt you like. Okay,

1456
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: don't sleep in it, don't work out in it, don't

1457
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: sweat in it, don't have sex in it. Okay. And

1458
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: here's the deal again. You're buying them because you want

1459
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: others to see it. Don't wear them inside your house,

1460
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: all right, Go to Walmart and buy a twenty pack

1461
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: of white V neck shirts. Wear those around your house, okay.

1462
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: Don't be carrying the dog or the cats with them.

1463
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: It's that simple. Wash them like normal, don't dry him

1464
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: in the dryer, take him out. Put them on a hanger.

1465
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: You want to avoid turkey bacon neck, treat it the

1466
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: right way. Don't sweat in it, don't eat spaghetti with

1467
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: it on. It's just like wearing a dress shirt to

1468
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: go out to work. When you come home, take that

1469
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: crap off right away, put it back on the hanger.

1470
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: But the real secret, Luke, try not to wash it.

1471
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: So don't sweat in it, because the more you wash it,

1472
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: the more it gets faded and crapped out. The least

1473
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: you wash these things, and the less amount of time

1474
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: you're actually wearing them, the longer they stay fresh. My

1475
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 2: tip of the week.

1476
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: I understand that because I have these soccer jerseys that

1477
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: are I get the authentic ones, you know, the real deal,

1478
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: Holy Field ones, which are crazy expensive. You can't be

1479
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: wearing them things a lot. Man. They only have a

1480
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: few times you can wash them before shit starts to

1481
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: come apart on them, even the real ones. You know,

1482
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be.

1483
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's how you keep any piece

1484
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: of clothing fresh, suits, anything. You gotta avoid sweating them.

1485
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: All right. So for my tip, I told a story

1486
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: yesterday on the Live Chats. Absolutely true. I've been lifting

1487
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: weights in my front yard now that the weather's a

1488
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: little bit nicer, and there's this homeless dude who comes

1489
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: by constantly asking to live weights with me, and I'm like,

1490
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: people like, you should live weights with him. I'm like, well,

1491
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: he's always drunk and I don't know if he has

1492
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: COVID or not, So no, I won't be doing that.

1493
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: But but folks always ask me for advice on like

1494
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: what kind of program do you follow? Blah blah blah

1495
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: blah blah. Listen, I'm no expert. I'm as a much

1496
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: of a neophyte on this as anybody else, But I know.

1497
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: I've found a couple of good places to go for

1498
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: me to get good information about how to structure a program,

1499
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: how to exercise correctly, how to do the movements correctly,

1500
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: how to do dieting, everything, every piece you could possibly

1501
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: want in the whole weightlifting universe. There is a company

1502
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: that goes by the name and they have a YouTube

1503
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: channel that's what I'm recommending, called Renaissance Periodization. Now, this

1504
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: is an entire company. You can go to their website

1505
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: as well. They have books, manuals, online coaching, the whole

1506
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: nine I don't you know, I'm not. You don't have

1507
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: to go to that. They have free stuff on their

1508
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well. Shouts to doctor Mike Isratel. This

1509
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: guy is a PhD. I believe in exercise science. He

1510
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: talks like someone who is formally educated, and he's built

1511
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: like a brick shithouse. They know and understand how to

1512
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: lift weights. They are barbarians who use actual academia and

1513
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: marry the two correctly. So every need you could possibly have,

1514
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: whether you are a beginner, intermediate, expert, you are a four,

1515
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: you're twenty, you need a new program, you've been out

1516
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: of the gym for a while you COVID kicked your

1517
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: ass you're trying to get back. Doesn't matter. Whatever, shouts

1518
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: to doctor Mike ISRATEL and the YouTube channel, Renaissance periodization.

1519
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: It is everything you could possibly need and more. Don't

1520
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: listen to me, listen to them. They got you covered.

1521
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: Luke, is there any chance that was Phil Baroni walking

1522
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: by your house? Because his tweets lately have been troublesome.

1523
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: What is he tweeting about?

1524
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: Uh, that everyone has done him wrong, including coach Wink

1525
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: and the guy from BKFC and his ex wife and

1526
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: now he has no money and nowhere to go and

1527
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: nowhere to stay. And it's sad. Look the endgame on

1528
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: a lot of the great combat sports athletes. It's it's

1529
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: typically sad. To be honest, these are sports that take

1530
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: much more from you than they ever give you. But

1531
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: it seemed pretty sad, Luke. And you know if that's

1532
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: if that's the Long Island Badass or whatever you call

1533
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: himself New York, can you spot him? Can you spot him, Luke?

1534
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: Can you give him some time on the best If

1535
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: the New York Badass came by, I wanted to live

1536
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 1: weids in the front yard. I'd be about it, about

1537
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: it because the win over Dave MiNet will never be

1538
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: taken away from him. But alas it's just some weird

1539
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: gibbroni who walks by and as always drunk.

1540
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: So you know, one day, one one day, you're gonna

1541
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 2: wake up in your bed and it's gonna be spooning

1542
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: behind you. Luke, Okay, it's gonna happen, all right, bro,

1543
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: it's time, Luke. Can I share that that that conspiracy theory?

1544
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten about it. Our producer Mikey just reminded me.

1545
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: Now it's been so built up, it's gonna it's gonna

1546
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: fail no matter what.

1547
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 1: But can I share that, oh this the Connor conspiracy theory?

1548
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it's very simple. Here we go. I

1549
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw but this week but

1550
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 2: Dana once again and and talking to the media, teased

1551
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: a major announcement coming soon that would kick off ZUFA boxing.

1552
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: And I know at this point we're rolling our eyes

1553
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: and and look, there's a reason why it's taken so long.

1554
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: You just boxing is the old school mafia. You just

1555
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: don't walk in there, no matter your name or the

1556
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: money you have and have instant success. All the fighters

1557
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: are tied up, nobody wants to work together. It is

1558
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 2: what it is. But Luke, I think it's very convenient

1559
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 2: recently that Connor McGregor was just sticking it to Dana publicly,

1560
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: and then three days later he's like, I agree, I'll

1561
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 2: fight Dustin Poorier in a rematch. And I know we

1562
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: had the back and forth about twenty twenty or Cowboys Stadium.

1563
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: But I do believe this is all connected. This is

1564
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: not inside information, this is me doing the math. So

1565
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: here's my conspiracy theory. I believe that Connor and Dana

1566
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: talk to each other and sat down and they said this,

1567
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 2: look Connor, it's Dana here. Look look kid, hey kid,

1568
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: the DM thing between us, I'll forget that it ever happened.

1569
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: All right, bro, let's move on. We gotta make some

1570
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: money together. I know you want to fight Pacio and

1571
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: make a lot of money. I know you also want

1572
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: Habib really badly. So here's what I need you to

1573
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: do for me. This is all connected. I need you

1574
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: to fight Dustin Pourier and earn it, okay, And if

1575
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: you beat Dustin Poorier, I'm gonna give you everything you want,

1576
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 2: which includes a REMA with Habib in April and a

1577
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: boxing match against Manny Pacquiao later in twenty twenty one.

1578
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: Why do I think the dots are all connecting with this, Luke?

1579
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: A couple things. Pacquiao just officially finally signed with Paradigm Sports,

1580
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: Audio tar Connor's management team after long teasing and back

1581
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: and forth. Okay, we know ZUFA boxing wants to be

1582
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: a thing. A guy got hired for it. There are

1583
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: very few of those fighters that are free free agents

1584
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: that you can make it happen. One of them is

1585
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: Many Pakiao. Oh by the way, But if you're the UFC,

1586
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: you don't just want Connor to go run out there

1587
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: and fight Manny now, whether it's December or even next spring, Luke, right,

1588
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: So you gotta give him what he wants, a path

1589
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: back to Habib to try to win it all back

1590
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: and win the title. But I think you also have

1591
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: to promise him what he really wants, which is that

1592
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: Pakiao fight. And if you are ZUFA Boxing, you need

1593
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: an announcement that would win people over. And I still

1594
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: think although Connor and Manny will be big when it

1595
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 2: does happen one day, you can't build your boxing promotion,

1596
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: all that one circus, one night fight. So I'm wondering

1597
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 2: if the big announcement coming up here?

1598
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: Wow?

1599
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: Do we go black?

1600
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: There?

1601
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: We fade to black? Luke, did I is this the

1602
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: Apollo Theater? Did I get the did I get hold?

1603
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: This is? This? Is you at the Apollo Theater And

1604
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,879
Speaker 1: they came out with the hook to get you off stage?

1605
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's great. Can they still hear me? Are we live?

1606
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: I think we're live? All right? So, Luke, here's the deal, bro.

1607
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: I believe Manny Pacio is going to be the I

1608
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: believe Manny Pacio is going to be the debut fighter

1609
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: for ZUFA Boxing. He's a free agent right now. He's

1610
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: close with Teiam Connor and all that. You know who

1611
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: else is the free agent? Luke, We're good. It's it

1612
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: is a damn shit show, h all right, Luke. You

1613
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: know who else is a boxing free agent? The guy

1614
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: who was most recently linked to Manny Pacio in the

1615
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 2: past year but it fell apart. Mikey Garcia. You know

1616
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: in theory Man Pack against Mikey Garcia. It's actually pretty

1617
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: damn great fight. If you're gonna build ZUFA Boxing and

1618
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: have a real pay per view. You gotta have a

1619
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: real fight that's not a circus fight. What if Dana

1620
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: said to Connor, we're gonna launch with Manny and the

1621
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: ideas build to you against Manny for big money next year,

1622
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: for our big pillar next year, but for you to

1623
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: get all that and for us to be the lead promoter.

1624
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: Because here's Dana thinking Connor can go across the street

1625
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: and do this and make money in boxing pay per views.

1626
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: But look, there's a difference between ZUFA being the secondary

1627
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: promoter like they were for Maymac and ZUFA Boxing being

1628
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: the whole damn show and putting it on. I'm wondering

1629
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: if that quick change of heart was, Hey, Connor, fight Poria,

1630
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: you beat him, we'll turn it around quick. You'll fight

1631
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: Habib and then you'll get Manny later in the year.

1632
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: We all make a shit ton of money. Anything there you.

1633
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: Like, I like a lot of it. It's just the

1634
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: only thing with ZUFA Boxing is I I buy that

1635
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: they might be working towards Connor and Paqiao, because it's like,

1636
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 1: why do we want Connor to go fight in boxing

1637
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: for somebody else when we might still take a cut.

1638
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: But when we can just do it, you know. Okay,

1639
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: So that part I like, and the paradigm connection, I

1640
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: think you might be onto something with that. The only

1641
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: thing I just don't understand about Zuopha Boxing long term

1642
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: is like, oh, we're gonna fix boxing. How Like in

1643
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: the end, what I think they might just be doing

1644
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: is how many big fights can we do? Because like, dude,

1645
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: Pakiao is I'm not gonna say at the peak of

1646
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: his powers, but you know, he's still a very hot

1647
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: commodity right now. Like, how is ZUFA Boxing going to

1648
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: get him other than outbidding for what some other promoter

1649
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: could reasonably offer him? Like you're gonna pay him the

1650
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 1: twenty percent that you pay to the UFC fighters. It's

1651
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: not gonna work. So I'm not saying it's not possible.

1652
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: I think I like where your head is at, but

1653
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: I still have some long term questions about the viability

1654
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: of ZUFA boxing as all.

1655
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean look short of coming in and saying, hey, PBC, right,

1656
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: PBC owns in a set, not owens, but manages in

1657
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: de facto promotes essentially half of the boxers that matter globally.

1658
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 2: If Dana came in and said we're gonna make PBC,

1659
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, the new UFC of boxing. You'd have a chance.

1660
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, you'd have to close the doors off and

1661
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: say you're either with us or you're against us. But

1662
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: this is Boxing Premier League in a lot of ways.

1663
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: PBC kind of is de facto in that regardless of

1664
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: obviously they'll team up with other promoters when it matters,

1665
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: but short of that, you're just gonna do a bunch

1666
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: of one offs, Luke. But if you can get Paccio

1667
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: under contract, and you can as he ages and he'll

1668
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: be forty one in December, we do have to remember

1669
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: that you can put him in there against MMA type

1670
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 2: guys and stretch this thing out while giving him one

1671
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: off and boxing in between. It's possible. I just thought

1672
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 2: it was very interesting, Luke, that Connor went from fu,

1673
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 2: here's my DMS, I'm boxing manny to oh, I'm gonna

1674
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: play ball. Now, let's play pour you, let's do it.

1675
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: I like it. Where your head is that? Now? Speaking

1676
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: of boxing BC, don't forget you should tell the folks

1677
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: Showtime has a card tomorrow. I believe, Uh.

1678
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Showtime Boxing. Sorry to interrupt you. There

1679
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Speaker 2: I'm just very excited. It's a Showtime Boxing special edition

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Speaker 2: card nine pm Eastern Look. Sergei Lippinetz is one of

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Speaker 2: the better fighters in the world. Doesn't get a lot

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: of pub was a former one hundred and forty pound champion,

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: lost his belt to Mikey Garcia in a great fight

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Speaker 2: in which Garcia got dropped. Now is campaigning at welterweight.

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Speaker 2: He had the really Luke one of the best fights

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Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen against Lamont Peterson when he sent Peterson

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Speaker 2: into retirement. He's coming back. Unfortunately, his original opponent with

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Speaker 2: the with the with the Uzbek name, I can't pronounce

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 2: it the moment dropped out due to visa issues. But

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01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: he's coming in there against a guy unbeaten from Canada.

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Speaker 2: Last minute. And the reason why this fight is very

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01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: interesting not just facing an unbeaten opponent Luke, but it's

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01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: sort of an IBF title eliminator. They're calling it an

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01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,839
Speaker 2: interim IBF Welterweight Championship out. The winner gets in theory

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01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: the winner of Aerol Spence and Danny Garcia on December fifth,

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: So big opportunity here for Lipinettes to you know, playing

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: the mandatory game, but getting himself potentially in another giant fight.

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: He's a fun ass fighter watch, so it's definitely worth

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Speaker 2: your time nine pm Eastern Saturday from the Mohegan Bubble

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: and then tonight on his own really good fight card

1701
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: with one Francisco Estrada rematching Carlos Quadros in Roman. Chuckle,

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01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: Latito on there as well.

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Speaker 1: So check that out. All right, very good? Well, I

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: am pumped. Remember the prelim card tomorrow, folks, starts at

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01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: eleven am East Coast time, and then I think the

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01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: main is what like two something like that too, something crazy,

1707
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: So it's an early start. We will have post fight

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01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: coverage for you. We're still working out the details on

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: how that's gonna look, but come to MK. Basically, as

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: soon as the fights are over one way or the other,

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: whether it's live or it's recorded, whether it's ME or

1712
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: it's BC or it's both, we are gonna take care

1713
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: of you guys. So we are gonna have plenty of

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: post fight coverage. I'll have my dissected up as early

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Speaker 1: as I can, So I just want to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: for that.

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 2: Luke, can we talk about next week?

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01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, can we? But do you want to

1719
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: say you want to keep it a secret. Do you

1720
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: want to just spill the beans.

1721
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 2: I like to tickle the rim a little before before

1722
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: we fit that thing. I like to like to I

1723
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: like to set it, set it up a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, you know, fucking christ I think we should

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01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: have saved that from Monday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great things coming, yeah there. Yeah, next week obviously

1727
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 2: is a big week. We do have the Showtime Boxing

1728
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: pay per re view Gervonte Davis, Leo Santa Cruz also

1729
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: next Thursday night. You don't want to miss us on

1730
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: the CBS Sports Network. Good God, Douglas Lima on Gaygurt

1731
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: Mussas for the Bellator middleweight Gay girt Yogurt Mussas there

1732
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: for the Bellator middleweight title. Uh, definitely want to be

1733
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: getting you fired up for that. A lot of MK

1734
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: next week, A lot a lot of MK all, a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of a lot of Gogert Musasi. It's gonna be

1736
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: great to watch Gogurt.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: All right. If you want to try Showtime to watch

1739
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Speaker 1: Jagie Lippets or anything else, you can go to Showtime

1740
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1741
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1742
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1743
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: but we're on social. B Campbell's on there, on the

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Speaker 1: the winter bitches. All right, Hey, did.

1750
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: You do you pull off that live chat yesterday? How'd

1751
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: that work out?

1752
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: I did it? Were just fine. I figured it out.

1753
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: I went just fine, So thanks for asking. All right,

1754
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 1: with that in mind, thanks you guys so much for watching.

1755
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: We're back after the fights and then again on Monday.

1756
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys watching. Enjoy the weekend. Everyone for showtime

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01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: in Malka at CBS Sports. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: May all of your gains be loyal