WEBVTT - “DO YOU EVEN LIFT?”

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<v Speaker 1>All from Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello. Yeah, what's your name, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Joe?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, it's going pretty good. It's nice to talk to you, finally.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to talk to you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm uh, I'm in a chill mood. I think everything's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But who knows that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean who knows? I think, Uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I got to just start accepting life for

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much I I fucking won't shut

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<v Speaker 4>up about this on the on the show, and it

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<v Speaker 4>just in my own brain. But I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>much of life is how much of life is improving

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<v Speaker 4>external circumstances versus accepting them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's combination of both.

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<v Speaker 3>But sure, yeah, no, I mean that's kind of going

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<v Speaker 3>off for what I want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I've just had a few few circumstances in life

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of kind of hit me early on and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's just, you know, I'm trying to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, man, I feel like they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get me down sometimes and cards to get out

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<v Speaker 3>of that depression, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what? Yeah? What are they? So?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude? I was big into the gym a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly I had I had a few injuries that

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<v Speaker 3>I never took care of and they devolved into something

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<v Speaker 3>pretty bad. And then I don't know, over time it

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<v Speaker 3>got it got worse and worse. Eventually I had surgery,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I got some you know, I got some

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<v Speaker 3>racist and back issues now. So lifting has kind of

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<v Speaker 3>never been the same since then, and that was like

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<v Speaker 3>a big thing that kind of made my life really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's pretty it's pretty hard to find something that

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<v Speaker 3>brings me the same meaning, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm, Okay, So you can't lift anymore because of these injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that I can't, It's just that it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little, uh, I have some limitations, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Sure? How old are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am twenty two?

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<v Speaker 4>And you said that lifting you're having a hard time

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<v Speaker 4>finding something that gives you the same amount of meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, it's like that. That really brought me a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of meaning back because I used to work at

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<v Speaker 3>a gym and I still do some personal training, but

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<v Speaker 3>that was really a big thing for me in my teens,

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<v Speaker 3>Like in high school I used to do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of lifting to track and stuff like that. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I finally got a job at the gym when I

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<v Speaker 3>was like eighteen, so that was exciting for me. And

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, I was just really into it. And then

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<v Speaker 3>these injuries came up, and like, you know, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>in my head that you know, they were going on,

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<v Speaker 3>but I hadn't really gotten them checked out, and like

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<v Speaker 3>a timely mannered they kind of developed into something worse.

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<v Speaker 3>So over time it just got, you know, worse, and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's years later, I'm having a hard time just

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<v Speaker 3>coping with that, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so why do you think you can't find anything

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<v Speaker 4>else that gives you meaning?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that was a good way for me

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of deal with the mental stuff I had

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<v Speaker 3>going on. So I kind of, you know, I told

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<v Speaker 3>you I have a lot of anxiety that I was

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of born with. Yeah, so I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>I sort of struggle with that, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>lifting was a way for me to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also just like my insecurities, dude, honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, I've never been like fully, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. There there were some things that I was

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<v Speaker 3>insecure about in high school, you know, my height, ship

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and then I would always lift and I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like, you know, this is this is the way

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to make me feel better. So that that

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a big thing for me.

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<v Speaker 4>So the meaning you get when you say meaning, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>do you really just mean like because me, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if is meaning the words you mean because do

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<v Speaker 4>you just mean like it makes you feel better or

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<v Speaker 4>physically mentally?

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<v Speaker 3>I would think I would say that, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>if that If that doesn't make sense, I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 3>kind of put it like this. It was it was

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<v Speaker 3>more so the whole, the whole unity in it too,

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<v Speaker 3>because that was also a little bit into a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit into bodybuilding. Yeah, so it was more like I

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<v Speaker 3>had these visions of like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do this bodybuilding thing, and I'm constantly working towards this,

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<v Speaker 3>uh this one goal, and that would sort of become

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of become my motivation. Every day. I'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm gonna get this, uh this amount of

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<v Speaker 3>meals in I'm gonna, you know, go hit the gym

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<v Speaker 3>for this amount of time, hit hit these uh these

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<v Speaker 3>muscle groups, and it was it was going pretty well,

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<v Speaker 3>and I enjoyed it a lot. And you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I had, I was dealing with some other

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like anxiety, some insecurities. And then you know that

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<v Speaker 3>was even around the time, like I wasn't doing so

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<v Speaker 3>well in school, so I'd be like, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna worry about school because

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<v Speaker 3>I got this other thing going on in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, and that's I guess that sort of uh

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<v Speaker 3>that was very satisfying for me, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense when I say meaning now?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the things I like to think about

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<v Speaker 4>a lot, and I think about this with my own life,

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<v Speaker 4>is like there's kind of these uh this there's like

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<v Speaker 4>desires that you have as a person, sure, and then

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<v Speaker 4>there's vessels to fulfill those desires. Not to get uh

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<v Speaker 4>actually this is not I was gonna say, not to

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<v Speaker 4>get spiritual, but this is like actually very not spiritual

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<v Speaker 4>at all. This is like this is like this is

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<v Speaker 4>like logistical, empirical, actionable ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So so you.

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<v Speaker 4>Want like, yeah, you want community, You want to be

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<v Speaker 4>around other people.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have a fucking computer all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to be around to the people you want

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<v Speaker 4>to It sounds to me and and like like like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, clarify, but it sounds like bodybuilding. It was

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<v Speaker 4>something you were good at, so you felt competent. There

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<v Speaker 4>was other people involved in it, so you had a community.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, those two things alone make can make a

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<v Speaker 4>person very happy. And the bad news is that your

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<v Speaker 4>body is basically made a fucking tissue paper and can

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<v Speaker 4>get fucked up very easily, and it's unfortunate that that's

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<v Speaker 4>what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But the good news is that.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the things that exist in the I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 4>only twenty two, you got a good fifty eight more

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<v Speaker 4>years left to live. Maybe we'll see, but yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's so infinite many things that I'm sure you could

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<v Speaker 4>find out in the universe that you can get good

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<v Speaker 4>at to give you a sense of competence, and that

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<v Speaker 4>you can do with other people to give you a

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<v Speaker 4>sense of community. So just like I know it gets

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<v Speaker 4>hard and I've been there, before where you get really

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<v Speaker 4>invested in a hobby or a thing, or a career

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<v Speaker 4>or just anything, and then you're like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to go back down.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to climb down the mountain because you're

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<v Speaker 4>so invested in. However much time you put into a

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<v Speaker 4>thing feels like if you tried to do it again,

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<v Speaker 4>it would take forever but the best you but it's

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<v Speaker 4>to sit and kind of dwell and be like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fucked because I can't do this one specific thing

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<v Speaker 4>out of the infinite things that will fulfill my desire

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<v Speaker 4>for community and feeling like I'm worth a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not a good idea because there's so many.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like the it's the abundance versus scarcity scarcity.

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<v Speaker 4>People always get mad at me when I say that word,

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<v Speaker 4>this abundance versus scarcity mindset, You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>So so what else? So is there anything else that

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<v Speaker 4>you can do? Like the wheelchair basketball or what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily it's not at that point yet. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty like, I'm pretty fine. To me, I might have

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<v Speaker 3>over exaggerated a little bit. It's just you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking about from where I was a few years

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<v Speaker 3>ago to where I am now. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 3>just times when I feel like, Okay, maybe I could

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<v Speaker 3>be doing I could be at a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a better position. Sure, you know if these injuries never happened,

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of going off.

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<v Speaker 2>But that stuff. But you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't, you I'm I'm you can't think about

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<v Speaker 4>that that way. Yeah, you can't, because life just throws

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<v Speaker 4>fucking wrenches at you and.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to, Uh, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think you have to kinda take take it

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<v Speaker 4>all in, like you were not, like like nothing was.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever going to be perfect. Maybe maybe maybe for some people.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, but not but for most people nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 4>was ever going to be perfect the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, And you know, just to I mean kind

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<v Speaker 3>of go off of that. I was thinking more about

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<v Speaker 3>how just for for a long time, I think I've

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<v Speaker 3>I've built this kind of almost body, this morphia sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing going on. We're now like when I'm when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the gym or i'm training someone, I see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I see these other people and I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a good, good habit to be looking at

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<v Speaker 3>other people or comparing, but you know, sometimes it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, Okay, you know, what if what if

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<v Speaker 3>this never happened and you know, had to had I've

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<v Speaker 3>been able to achieve you know what this guy's got

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<v Speaker 3>going on, And I know that that's not healthy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just being honest with you here that that's Those

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<v Speaker 3>are the thoughts that kind of come into my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I'm kind of slowly working my way out

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<v Speaker 3>of that, you know, years and years course of kind

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<v Speaker 3>of body body image problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Joe, you already know this, but you you, you,

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<v Speaker 4>and there are natural thoughts that we all have. We

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<v Speaker 4>look at we're always comparing ourselves to other people because

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<v Speaker 4>there's no there's no real like fucking guidebook to anything,

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<v Speaker 4>So you're just always looking at other people. I do

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<v Speaker 4>this too, and I have to remind myself you can't

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<v Speaker 4>fucking do that, you know. Yeah, you can't compare, You

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<v Speaker 4>really can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You really can't compare. Not only you really can't.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only you not only can you not compare yourself

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<v Speaker 4>to other people. That's gonna fuck you, but you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>really fuck yourself if you compare yourself to other potential

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<v Speaker 4>versions of yourself were events difference, Like if you sit

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<v Speaker 4>around and you're like, you're like, oh, my life could

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<v Speaker 4>have been so much different if this happens, or if

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<v Speaker 4>this didn't happen, or if I didn't make this mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just just no reason to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>If you you know, if you're gonna compare yourself to anyone,

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<v Speaker 4>compare yourself to the version of yourself that decided that

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<v Speaker 4>none of that shit matter, then you and that you

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<v Speaker 4>were gonna go off and make a good life for

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<v Speaker 4>yourself anyway, if you're gonna compare yourself to anyone, compare

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<v Speaker 4>yourself to that guy, because that's that's the guy that

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<v Speaker 4>that you could still be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Yeah, man, you know, trying to remind myself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're only in a competition with ourselves. So

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's hard when like it's writing in your

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<v Speaker 3>face sometimes, but it's just it's just every day Bail

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<v Speaker 3>trying to kind of reinforce that, Yeah, that makes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm always uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean also just I know, I know you're not

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<v Speaker 4>with the whole comparing yourself to other people thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a strong like.

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<v Speaker 4>Unhappy, it's a strong sense of unhappiness and that. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's also there's another version of it where like, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you can compare yourself to people who are where you

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<v Speaker 4>can you compare yourself to people who are like less

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<v Speaker 4>fortunate than you, and you're like, well, at least I'm not,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Like I think for a while, I was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times in my life where I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of self conscious about my height, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you heard me, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>another thing that I was kind of almost compensating forward

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<v Speaker 3>with this living thing because I'm I'm barely five seven,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm trying to I'm trying to, you know, deal

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<v Speaker 3>with that is also you know, something that I grew

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<v Speaker 3>up with, you know, in high school and.

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<v Speaker 4>With all these Yeah, i mean I'm barely five seven too,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's always but you know how much worse it

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<v Speaker 4>could have been for us.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse for a fucking that fucking angry Bagel guy on.

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube, like we could have in the Angry Bagel on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 4>like you really can't do you you know what, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what it is, and I actually I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 4>that you called in to talk about this because I

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<v Speaker 4>just came, really, I came to an epiphany about.

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<v Speaker 2>This that I'm happy to share.

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<v Speaker 4>Is like, I'm really I'm beginning to really feel like

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<v Speaker 4>comparing yourself to other people, you're trying to cherry pick life.

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to like take everything that's good about everyone

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<v Speaker 4>else's life and everything that ever could have been good

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<v Speaker 4>about your life and remove everything that's bad and cherry

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<v Speaker 4>pick yourself this perfect life made up.

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<v Speaker 2>Of only the things that are good about about other

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<v Speaker 2>people's lives and you. And you just can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can only have you can only have somebody else's

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<v Speaker 4>good things. When you're like, when you're comparing yourself to

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<v Speaker 4>another person, you can only have their good things if

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<v Speaker 4>you take all the bad things that happened to them too.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when you're watching a guy in the gym and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh, this guy's in good shape. I wish

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<v Speaker 4>I could be in as good shape as him. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not disc you're discounting all how all everything in that

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<v Speaker 4>guy's life the horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>You have that comes in a package deal. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>just take all the good things out of everything you

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<v Speaker 4>see and use it to make perfect life that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just gotta take you just.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotta kind of I guess, I guess take stock of

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<v Speaker 4>whatever is good in your own life and just be like,

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<v Speaker 4>thank god, I have this little more. Thank God I'm

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<v Speaker 4>five six and I'm not you know, the to whatever

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<v Speaker 4>how the bagel guy's heights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, thank god I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I have fucking have have something. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>sit around and you're like, I have this thing, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's not enough. I need this guy's thing, and I

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<v Speaker 4>need I need this guy's thing, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's thing. This guy's has this thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>But I.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can't, but I don't want you know, his

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<v Speaker 4>horrible childhood or whatever the fuck you know you can't

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<v Speaker 4>do you just can't do that. And I and by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, I'm like giving, I'm giving a whole spiel

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<v Speaker 4>right now, but I forget this all the time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, it's human. It's human nature to to feel,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like you said, these stuffs are natural, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're all dealing with them, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody's perfect, so we're never gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 3>be in a situation where we see someone who's you know, bigger, better,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the case might be, and just automatically, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just remind ourselves that we, you know, we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. I think it takes a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, honestly, talking to you, it's been you know,

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<v Speaker 3>awesome getting that that insight and you know, just continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to practice that stuff is super important.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I also think about it a lot in my

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<v Speaker 4>own self because I think a lot of the times

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<v Speaker 4>I wish that, uh, like you, like you wish you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't make certain you just wish you made different decisions

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<v Speaker 4>in your own life, or you wish something. You just

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<v Speaker 4>wish that certain things didn't happen a certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, and you can't. But you also made good decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>With your life, you know, and you think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't. You can't cherry pick this ship.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just your life and the way you lived it,

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<v Speaker 4>and every single thing about you up until this point

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<v Speaker 4>in your life is what it is, and it's major

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<v Speaker 4>who you are, and you're grateful. You got to fucking

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<v Speaker 4>ever be anything and go from there, and go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Dwell, don't dwell that you that you that your legs

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<v Speaker 4>are broken. I mean that probably sucks. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I just see I'm I'm yeah, yeah, I mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably my legs aren't broken. It's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, because I was talking to you, I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking to and I was kind of like I was,

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about my life, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>at least my legs aren't broken like this guy's legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, No, No, I'm kind of over exaggerating it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of just like I have like little pains

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<v Speaker 3>here and there from like hold injuries. It's nothing that's

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<v Speaker 3>like immobilizing or anything like that. But I get exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, well, thanks for letting me, Thanks for letting

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<v Speaker 4>me go on this fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Vaynerchuk's speech to you, this folk.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Thank you THO was really insightful and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>I finally got to, you know, talk to you that

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<v Speaker 3>that shit was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Joe. Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 4>people of the people who are folding their laundry while

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<v Speaker 4>they're listening to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, continue to have a positive outlook on

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<v Speaker 3>life and keep keep being you. I think he said

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<v Speaker 3>a best while. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thanks Man. Take take to Joe, take care of Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>See you later.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you two while talk you Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I'm just thinking about this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I've been thinking about this stuff a lot

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<v Speaker 2>because I've been thinking about.

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<v Speaker 4>My own personal goals in life, and I've decided that

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<v Speaker 4>my main goal for twenty twenty five, I'm gonna d

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna finish out this year. I'm not gonna put

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<v Speaker 4>a pressure to start this year. But my main goal

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<v Speaker 4>for twenty twenty five is to not be going insane

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<v Speaker 4>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my main goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I feel like I'm really grateful for the way

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<v Speaker 4>that my life is panned out so far. I've gotten

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<v Speaker 4>to meet so many people, I've got to do so

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<v Speaker 4>many really cool, incredible things. I really think if I

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<v Speaker 4>died tomorrow, I did it. You know, I did good.

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<v Speaker 4>So now I'm just like and I'd like to continue

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<v Speaker 4>living the rest of my life creating things and.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing stuff. But if I have to go, if I

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<v Speaker 2>have to go, insane to do it, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Then I don't know if it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep rambling.

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<v Speaker 4>This is fun because like h like, anxiety can be

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<v Speaker 4>kind of can be like a motivator, can motivate you

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<v Speaker 4>to do things, can motivate and put kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>fire under your ass to accomplish stuff. And and it

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<v Speaker 4>also makes you afraid of losing of losing things too,

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<v Speaker 4>And so that kind of motivates you to do things.

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<v Speaker 4>And and you kind of think if you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>think to yourself like, oh, I need this anxiety that's

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<v Speaker 4>going insane. I need it to be and to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything to be like uh, to accomplish things in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>And to a certain degree, I think that is a

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<v Speaker 4>little true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is a little true.

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<v Speaker 4>But also at a certain point, the anxiety just makes

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<v Speaker 4>your At a certain point, you have to you have

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<v Speaker 4>to have a little meeting with your you're the parts

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<v Speaker 4>of your brain that are constantly on edge and going insane,

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<v Speaker 4>and go, Okay, are we is this really? Will life

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<v Speaker 4>be better without this? Can we leave this behind and

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<v Speaker 4>still uh you still live the kind of life we

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<v Speaker 4>want to live. I'm pretty that's about that's, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a hypothesis.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very by the way, it's very well possible that

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<v Speaker 4>you should be anxious, don't I'm not. I'm not here

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<v Speaker 4>to tell anyone that they it's possible. It's my it's

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<v Speaker 4>very possible that you should be anxious if your life sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if your life, if life sucks and.

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<v Speaker 4>You're anxious that your life sucks, and that anxiety propels

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<v Speaker 4>you to like this idea that you hate yourself into submission,

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<v Speaker 4>and that causes you to do things.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's worked for me so far. But that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, that's the only playbook I have ah to offer.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I'm gonna try to try a new playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you should hate yourself or not. That's real. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not being facetious. I'm not. I'm not I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a I'm not a doctor, I'm not a psychologist.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm just a guy diarrhea in

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<v Speaker 4>into a microphone about whether or not it is good

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<v Speaker 4>to hate yourself. I hope this whole ramt made sense.

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<v Speaker 4>It made a lot of sense to me. Uh okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's take another call.

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<v Speaker 1>All from Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, buddy, What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>You know the first thing that I wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>is how weird it is that I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a gecko. I'm here. I think I must have

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<v Speaker 1>called a hundred times.

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<v Speaker 2>It is weird. It is where I find it very

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<v Speaker 2>I went.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had a live show in uh DC, like

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago, and my best friend Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>came and he saw that there was like and he

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<v Speaker 4>came and he saw, you know, everyone like kind of

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<v Speaker 4>I meet everyone after the shows and uh you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a big line of people that I was talking to,

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<v Speaker 4>and after I spoke to all of them, I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking to Ryan and he was like, he was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No offense, but I think it's kind of I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at that line and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>all these people want to talk to Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not I feel too.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not center o, but do That's like the main

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<v Speaker 1>reason I listened to you. I think you're very introspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your take on things, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a question, man, so I got some stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, but I have a question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to know, like, do you believe in God?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's kind of personal, but I'm just curious,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you could you could have asked. You could have

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 4>asked some much more personal questions. Wait is it you

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<v Speaker 4>say you had a couple of questions? This is the

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<v Speaker 4>first of a couple questions.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I had something else. I had some other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about. Okay to me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh do I believe in God?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I believe in God? I don't believe like not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I believe.

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<v Speaker 4>In God in any way that has currently been expressed.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I like, like all the like

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<v Speaker 4>like the classic religions like Christianity. I don't think any

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<v Speaker 4>of that stuff is real or Judaism or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't believe in like a God, like

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<v Speaker 2>a guy. Like I don't think it's a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I hear you, dude, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think but I but I think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, I think that like human consciousness is this is

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<v Speaker 4>like an insane, magical, god like kind of fucking unexplainable

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<v Speaker 4>thing like our own consciousness is is uh, it's like magical,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's not of uh, it's like not realistic in

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<v Speaker 4>a way. So I would believe that there's something that's uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I would believe that consciousness is a spectrum and that

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<v Speaker 4>we are not necessarily at the furthest right hand side

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<v Speaker 4>of the spectrum, and that there there could be something

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<v Speaker 4>more conscious than us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, but I don't. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a I don't. I don't know if I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I get you, dude, I totally get where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you sound like sound like you sound like you're

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you believe in God. That's why you're That's the response

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<v Speaker 2>of someone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was raised in a Christian househo, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through my bouts, and you know, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't fully know if I believe. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>do is uh, you know, I I whenever I get

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<v Speaker 1>a second man, I try to thank God for uh,

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, like struggles and ship. But not only because

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe in God, but more so because it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>me humble and it keeps me thinking myself. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just recently started doing that, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's made me a little bit happier of a person.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not God is real doesn't necessarily matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a Bible reader and ship, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think keeps me humble. Man, I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I pray. I well, because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I there's I don't necessarily believe that there's like an

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<v Speaker 4>external force that makes the things of the universe the

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<v Speaker 4>way that they are. But I think all all the time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like all the time. I I'll like, I'll like,

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<v Speaker 4>I got through airport security yesterday and and it was

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<v Speaker 4>not very busy, and so while I was waiting for

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 4>my bag to come out, I just I just started praying.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I put my hands together and I looked up

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just like, please, you know, please, and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you. That's what there's I just say. I just

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<v Speaker 4>look I clasp my hands and I look up to

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<v Speaker 4>this guy. I don't know who I'm talking to, but

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<v Speaker 4>I just say like please, fucking just please, please, and

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<v Speaker 4>fucking thank you. Oh my god, thank you, Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, oh my God, because I feel very because

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm very because it's like, uh, you know, amways anxious,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 4>and so it's like please let everything It's like, please

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<v Speaker 4>let everything be okay, and thank you for every morsel

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<v Speaker 4>of everything in my life that's okay. Right now, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know who to ask please to and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know who to say thank you to, so I just

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<v Speaker 4>clap clasp my hands.

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<v Speaker 2>And look up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, dude. You sound like you're explaining what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking right now. I feel the same way, Dude. I

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>totally agree with you. And so that was kind of

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that I think about because I

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily know what I believe, but I think I

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>believe in something, dude, and just saying thank you, and like,

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking at things a different way, like instead

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<v Speaker 1>of like looking at everything that makes me mad is

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<v Speaker 1>like an issue, you know, I look at it is

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe something out there is just trying to show

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<v Speaker 1>it's a better way, dude, Like, well, I'm sure there's

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a better way to go about it. And getting all

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>mad and like saying, somebody, but why don't you feel Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't my main thing is like I really

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why I am me and like another person

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<v Speaker 4>is another Like you like you'll see like a guy

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<v Speaker 4>on the street and you're like, uh, I just I'm like,

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 4>there's no fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason why I'm me and he's him.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there's like empirical reasons, like you know, we

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 4>grew up differently and blah blah blah blah and all

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 4>that stuff, but like what why is my consciousness and

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 4>my why why I Why am I.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Living my experience? And why is he living his?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure I believe in free will, but there's

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 4>also something weirdly deterministic about why we end up the

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 4>way that we do, because there's like when I see

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 4>it on the street, I'm like, Okay, he probably was

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 4>born to like he probably had shitty parents and probably

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 4>grew up shittier than I did, and that led them

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 4>every that caused something in his brain that maybe made

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>different decisions, And it.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Was like, well, what why the fuck was.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 4>He born into that lived experience and I was born

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 4>into mine. There's there's no there's a reason I'm not

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 4>like an inherent like none of I don't think any

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 4>of us were like as babies were like inherently fucking

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 4>like blessed to live good lives and others to live

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 4>shitty ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just have no ight. I can't I really

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<v Speaker 2>can't explain that.

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 4>Like you can explain that empirically, but you can't explain

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 4>cosmically why these things are the way they are.

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I've also thought about that thing. I think

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of life. There's like a series of decisions. Dude, you're

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>always pretty every second of every day, You're presented with

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a series of decisions, and your decisions do you where

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to go? I don't want to wake up

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to go to work out every morning at four o'clock

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in the morning. But you know what, I realized that

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if I don't, then that's gonna have identplications on my life.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Some people don't care, and some people aren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>think about the future, but I'm blessed enough to be

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>able to so I do. I know a lot of

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>people around me, specifically, like I got one homie that

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, he makes great money, but his girlfriend

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>is just a piece of shit and she does not

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>want to go to work, and so they struggle every

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>day even though he works as the ass off, and

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I got another homie that's worked at the same place

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>for like ten years and it makes like twenty bucks

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>an hour. I'm like, dude, I don't know. And it's

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>not like they're not skilled people, but yeah, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about that too, I really.

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<v Speaker 4>I it's weird because I believe in free will, but

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I also am like, you know, because you have the

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 4>ability to make your own decisions that determine what happened

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 4>in your life. But a part of my soul just

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 4>feels like, is I.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Why are some people.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 4>Predisposed to make certain decisions that others are not?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, No, I get you, dude, I'm not even I'm

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 4>not I'm just fucking around with this.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking. I just think about this stuff. I

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>don't have, like it's definitive opinions on it.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think any of this too, but it's

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>cool to think about.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what the call, dude?

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's like, so could I switch gears for a site? Yeah?

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's like a big reason that I actually listened

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to your podcast, dude, because I really like to take

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>on things, and I think that the advice that you

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>give people, even though sometimes vague. I think that's probably

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like the same shit that I would say. And actually,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>through listening to your podcast, man, I actually just went

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to my first therapy session last week. I think I'm

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>actually doing pretty al right. I got some pretty manageable problems,

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>but just unpacking seems kind of nice. So I started ut, you.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Started going to therapy because of the podcast.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, I started thinking about it. Well, not strictly

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>because of the podcast. You know, where the seat actually

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>blossom goes through, like Charlotte and the God off the breakfast.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Cool, let him. Let Charlotte and the God can have

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>this one, for sure.

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was just that was the first place I

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>had ever heard of it, like, you know, people being

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>open about that and uh, you know, actually going to

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>therapy and talking about it and not feeling weird about it.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>But then I listen to your podcast all the time

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I kind of thought about like what I would tell myself,

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, dude, just go unpack me and clear

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>your head out a little bit. It's weird.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I didn't intend I uh, I didn't ever. I don't

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 4>think I ever intended to be like a therapy guy.

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 4>It happened very accidentally, dude.

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I love your story.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I wish that I would have cast ali saw some

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>shit like you did. I'm twenty seven. I live in

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the middle of Illinois, dude, and every day I wake

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>up and I think about, how the fuck maybe I

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>could just not have to go to work tomorrow. No,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I know I have to, but it sucks ass and

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that, dude. If I could do something

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like you do, dude, I would love that shit. Even

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if I could work for somebody like you and be

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a fucking assistant, that would be amazing.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 4>So, well, you said you had a thing in particular

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to talk about.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Is this it? What is the thing?

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>No? No, I was just riffing with you, and so

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<v Speaker 1>do the You know what, man, dude, I've been a

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>heavy drinker for the past like ten years and I'm

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, so it's been a good person in my life.

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you still a heavy drinker?

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I just cracked one right now, dude. I'm working

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>on it, and I'm slowly trying to taper off and

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>work on a big topic in my therapy.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I'm curious.

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, uh, I mean you know, I'm not a real therapist,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 4>but I'm down to chat about this shit.

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 4>So, like, uh, here's what's awesome about alcohol is that,

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Uh I think people are generally happier when they're in

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 4>the present and they're not like depressed about the past

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 4>or worried about the future.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>And alcohol does.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 4>A really good job of making you fully present. Then

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 4>you have to pay for it later. You know, you're

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 4>you're borrowing from the future for that presence. But like,

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 4>that's why it's it's condictive, is because you're it's you're

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 4>it's like the short cut to living in the present.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I think it's a good take.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious about this. What uh what is preventing

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you from living in the present?

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a good question, man, That's one that

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about.

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I I I to suffer from a lot

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of anxiety. I think that myself prevents myself from connecting

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>with other people the way I would like to, whether

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that be getting frustrated or feeling not understood or I'm

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not really sure, you know, Like that's a that's a

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>very it's a very tough question, you know, but I

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's probably the base of it.

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>What's your real therapist tell you?

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, I just had my first session last week, so

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really figured it out yet, but you know,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>we talk a lot about uh, you know, are in

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the one session, I was talking a lot about, Yeah,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>do you ever feel like life is kind of just

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like on repeat? Sometimes? Like you wake up, well, I

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe now you wake up, go to work, come home,

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, like kind of just feels yeah. Anonymously,

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that's

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>also a big problem with it. And you know, I

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>know that you also have tried stand up comedy, man,

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, through watching Kill Tony Man, it's actually

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>been one of the things that I wanted to do,

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>is just get up on stage somewhere and open mic.

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of jokes I've written might not

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>be the funniest, but they don't suck as bad as

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>some of those guys.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's it's funny because I would I would think

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 4>you would watch Kill Tony and be like, oh this, uh,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 4>I never want to do this. This seems awful.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Dude. I love that show Man, but it's people I

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>cam and like, you know, all the dudes that go

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>up there and just kill it, Like, dude, I love

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that shit.

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 4>I just well because I always uh, well, actually no, no,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I I took what I just said back because there

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 4>is something about watching somebody do stand up comedy that's

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 4>bad that makes you go, oh, I could do this shit.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>So I see where you're coming from.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy though, dude, even just when you picked

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>up the phone, it's it's weird how you get nervous

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>at times you really didn't think you'd get nervous, you know.

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>So I could see myself getting on stage and just

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe clam it up a little bit. I

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely would have to power through that shit.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>But well, yeah you have to do I mean you

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>have to do it.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 4>You have to do it hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 4>and hundreds and hundreds of times.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, dude. I just want to try. Man.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's it's not like a I don't

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>want to change my career or anything, you know, but

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be cool. Dude. I think it's a good,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, something to do.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 4>So you're so you're feeling like life is just getting

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 4>too monotonous and you wanted to shake it up.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, yeah, dude, I'm so. I've been with

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>my girl for nine years. Dude, I'm twenty seven. We

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>got our we just bought our second house. We got

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>two dogs, Like, oh gosh, I'm really doing the family life,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I've worked construction for the past six years.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I just joined the union. I had to take a

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a pay cut, but you know, in

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>four years or in three more years, I'll be making

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, one hundred and twenty grand a year. Issue.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>So pretty set. But man, dude, it's just day and

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>day out, and sometimes it's the same shit.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh. I have a few questions.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 4>You bought a second house, like as in, you sold

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 4>your first house second one.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, we no, no, we told our first one

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and got her second.

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you have two dogs. You have a wife, that's cool.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Not a wife, she's a girlfriend. We're playing. I want

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to become a journeyman to make little bit more money.

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Before we decided we want to get married, not if

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't want.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 4>A girlfriend of nine years is basically a wife. Good point,

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 4>there's no there's nothing if you guys getting married. I

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 4>don't think we'll change really much in your relationship.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>At this point.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Very good point, but I went.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 2>To, fuck, do I know I've never been married.

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Huh, So I mean, what do you want to what

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 4>do you want to do with your with your life?

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, the first thing was stop drinking so fucking much. Dude.

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure you had a little issue.

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>With that, But I mean, dude, really, what I want

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to do with I want to figure out how to

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>make videos of some kind that somebody would enjoy to

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>where I could maybe do something like you do, even

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.439
<v Speaker 1>if it's just on the side. I think that would

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>be really fucking cool. Dude. I don't know where to

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>start or how to get the ball, okay, actually do

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But dude, I really admire what you do.

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, you just you just you just do it. You

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>just do it.

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I I know that there's like there's a lot to

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 4>be said behind like, oh, you know, can I can

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>I make a career out of doing this? Can I

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 4>like get some steamrolling from doing this? But at the

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>end of the day, I keep saying at the end

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 4>of the day, that's my catchphrase apparently, But.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I really think at the end of the day.

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 4>It's like everything is just about the process of it, right,

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 4>So what do you what process would you enjoy doing?

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 4>If you like writing jokes and getting on stage and

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 4>telling them, then just then just do it for the

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 4>love of the process itself and then you die.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>That's it, Okay, you know what? Uh?

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>What processes?

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 2>That's a real question. What processes would you enjoy doing?

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I actually have a question for you. If

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it was if everything changed tomorrow, man, if you had

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to go back to doing anything other than what you're

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>doing now because it's not working anymore.

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Where would you start if I had to do anything

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 4>other than what I was doing?

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like for income, like to support yourself, Like

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>if you had to restart, like like the getro thing

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was totally over, Like, where would you start? I'm just curious.

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Well, well, like if I I guess, if I

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 4>was like twenty two.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I graduated from this, if this was tomorrow, if this

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>was tomorrow, Yeah, like you guys, the experience of doing

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.479
<v Speaker 1>all this and like tomorrow it's just over. You gotta

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>find somewhere else.

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 4>If I got to find something else to do, Honestly,

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I'd probably like go The real answer is I would

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 4>probably go bohemian mode to be honest, what does it mean?

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Like I would just I would go on like one

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 4>of those like workaway sites or whatever, and I would

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 4>be like, uh, I would be like, let me go

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 4>to a work on a guy's farm in Italy and

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 4>he can in exchange for a bed. Yeah, I would,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 4>I think if I that's what I would do if

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 4>I had no money and I and I had no

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 4>thing to make money, I would just be like, well,

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 4>I would probably honestly would probably do is I'd probably

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 4>like like if I, like, if I had to start

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 4>over and I had no money, I would probably like

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 4>go work at a bar or a restaurant or something

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 4>and like try to save up a little bit to

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 4>like go do that kind of workaway shit or like

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 4>work at a hostel or any kind of like job

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 4>where I could travel and meet people and stuff.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>So, so you said something really intriguing. So your first

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>answer wouldn't be to do something on the internet. So

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you do you do you really feel like this was

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a stroke of luck or do you think that where

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't it be to go back on the internet?

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 4>Think about the internet, because the Internet is not where

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 4>life happens.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's where you make your money.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah it. I got very lucky that the

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Internet is now where it's totally. It was a struggle luck.

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 4>I got very lucky that the Internet became where I

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 4>make where I make money. But I mean, I mean personally,

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 4>my my, I enjoy life the most. When I mean

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying talking to you right now, you know,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 4>because we're on.

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>The the phone, which I guess is less being on

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the internet. But like, I mean, knowing what I know, now,

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that's what I would do.

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a very interesting answer. I didn't expect that.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 2>What did you expect me to say, some.

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Type of Internet game? I mean, like, look at like

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody like Steeple will do it. He got kicked off YouTube.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, his first thing is to find any other

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>internet that sort of you know, revenue. Once you come

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>from that kind of life, even though that might not

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>be where you're living. I would just see it as

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 1>being hard to transition back to any type of ninety five.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Uh No, I don't think. I don't think I would

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 4>do it nine to five. I think I would do like.

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, even just anywhere you have to wake up and

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>do physical labor compared to what you're doing currently, because

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I'm a carboner. He's like, I'm used

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>physical labor and shit. But after I didn't do it

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>for a couple years, I sure fuck wouldn't want to

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>come back to it.

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, life also just

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of hit. You know, you can fantasize about whatever,

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, maybe maybe when I shot up

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>at that farm in Italy, I'll be like, oh wait,

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>this fucking sucks.

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hold on, Can I ask you some awful all shit?

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Adam twenty two? What?

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 4>I I don't think anything about Adam twenty two. I

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 4>merely know that he's a guy with a podcast.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Dude, would you ever like switch it up and do

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>some like freaky gecko shit, because that would also be

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>another with the avenue you could go to?

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:06.240
<v Speaker 2>What is? I don't what?

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you dude think about? You got some crazy listeners, Dude,

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you to get five of them to dress

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>up as geckos and just have orgies and you can

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>stream it and you could capitalize off them.

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Jesus man, I don't. I don't know what to say

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 4>about that. That's uh, I appreciate.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Here's here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm gonna say.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I I am very flattered that you think that people

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 4>would want to see that.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'll say to that.

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I would purchase, but I guarantee

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you to have a I'm very.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm very flattered that you think that people would would

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 4>pay money to watch that.

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Dude, what if you didn't even have to be in it?

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>You could just host these things.

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying if I I could just like I

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>like you're saying that I have, I could have a

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 4>second career in making pornography.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Dude, you totally good.

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 4>Actually, I think I've told this story before, but I'll

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 4>tell it again. I was at I was at a

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 4>v N which is like the porn convention, and I

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 4>was like talking to this like, uh, I made a friend.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 4>He's he's a porn star. He's a nice guy. And

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 4>we were talking and I made a joke to him

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 4>about like starting an OnlyFans. I was like, oh, maybe

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll do a Gecko OnlyFans And he looked at me

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 4>like very like he didn't take it as a joke,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 4>because that's I realized I made a joke about what

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 4>he actually does. And he looked at me and he

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 4>very seriously said, oh, yeah, you can make a lot

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 4>of money doing that.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm not the only one I

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>think so, Dude, I don't.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that. I don't think that that's what

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do. But uh, I don't know, dude.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>What about what about god Kid? You guys still cool?

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I really liked that episode you guys did. I thought

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that was out of a lot of your episodes. It

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was really good, dude, I didn't expect it to be.

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh doj Cat's a good don't you guys? Very cool?

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan, dude, Dude, get her to take you

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<v Speaker 1>on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it works like that necessarily.

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<v Speaker 4>But dude, wait, hold on by the way, by the way,

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 4>by the way, by the way. I feel like we

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 4>got off track here because you had to. You wanted

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 4>to talk about yourself, and you got you flattered me

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 4>and I've been talking about myself, which is just I

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<v Speaker 4>understand why people want to call in to talk about

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 4>themselves on this show. It feels good.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I mean, dude, I kind of just like

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>taking your brain a little bit. Dude. I like seeing

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:46.720
<v Speaker 1>what you think about things.

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you know, maybe in another life I could have

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 4>been a porn star. Maybe maybe why not? I don't know,

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 4>why not? Why not?

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Dude? You never know what ten years is

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>down the road? Me, don't ever say it never.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I mean, I don't know, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the idea. I'll say this, I'll say this too.

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll say this to you. I'll say this to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the idea of being comfortable and confident about

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<v Speaker 4>my body. That's why I make those little uh that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I'll post pictures of myself on my Instagram in

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 4>a speedo. There's something there. There's there is something I

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 4>think freeing that feels good about, like being out there

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 4>in that sense and not really not caring what other

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 4>people think of your body.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a freeing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of man, how you've been doing the gym, buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Oh, well, I've been on tour, so I've been

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>eating candy.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll ship, dude, candy is a ship. But as

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>long as you're going to the gym and being active. Dude,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you got that man like who cares? I think I

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think it would be really positive for you if you

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they actually make it there once today. That's one of

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the one things that kind of provides a little bit

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of rigidity in my life and alps me not want

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to drink so much. Are you When I leave? I

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>feel so good?

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Dude, are you in AA? Do you do AA?

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily. I think that I drink for more

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>deep rooted issues. So that's why I started therapy. I

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>think group sessions isn't necessarily what I'm looking for. So

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, I actually had to attend like

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>NA and AA meetings because I got caught with pot

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>high school and out of some weird restriction. That's what

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they maybe do. And I never felt necessarily comfortable around

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people twice my age dealing with more

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.240
<v Speaker 1>significant problems on my own. I feel like it's almost

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>made me look down on my own problems. So more

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>individualized approach is a little bit better for me.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been to a couple of those kinds of

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 4>meetings before. They're it's kind of nice. It's kind of

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 4>nice to be like, oh, there's other people who have the.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Same problem that I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not an alcoholic. I've never been a big alcohol man,

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 4>but but.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Like I said, it puts you in

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the present.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 4>When I'm on tour after the show, if I'm hanging

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 4>out with folks, I'll have a couple of beers or

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 4>something like that, and it's, uh, it's nice.

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 2>It's nice. It puts you in the present. It makes

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it way easier to talk to people.

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I get exhausted, especially if it's like, I mean,

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm fine talking to you right now, but it's like

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 4>if I'm one on one talking to somebody.

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll get so exhausted.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Like I hate I can't like like if I meet

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 4>up with somebody and it's just me and them, I

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:56.240
<v Speaker 4>get kind of tired.

0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 2>My favorite I love.

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I love when it's like when I'm like in a

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 4>group of like two or three other people and like

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 4>you can stop, I can stop talking and let the

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 4>other two people talk for a while.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>It's that's awesome.

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing fucking better on the planet Earth than being

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>like a little buzzed and standing around in a group

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 4>of other in a group of other people that you're

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 4>a part of while they all talk, and you can

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 4>just kind of beat and you're out and you're around

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.720
<v Speaker 4>other people, but you don't have to do anything.

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 2>It's the best.

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been like that only, dude. That's like when you

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 1>say a couple of edibles. Dude, that's the only thing

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that does it to me. I don't want to talk

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to anybody. I just want to sit and listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, shit, well, uh, I got one more question,

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 4>all right, hit.

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Me with your one more questions, sir. It's been a

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>nice conversation.

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:00.399
<v Speaker 1>You ever been in trouble the law?

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Have I ever been in trouble with the law?

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I hope you got a good one for me, dude.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>If not, I got one for you, I'm sure you do.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I have ever been in trouble with the law? Uh?

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Have I ever been in trouble? I've ever been like

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a writin.

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 4>No, I have never been arrested or like I mean,

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 4>I got my ra caught me smoking weed in my

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 4>dorm room in college.

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 2>That's probably Uh, that's really it, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, dude. Well let me leave you with this one,

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>all right. So it was the first time me and

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a group of guys like, dude, all my closest friends.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>When we were like eighteen years old, we all got

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>acid for the first time, right, And I don't know

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>if you take an acid, but there's a difference between

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>acid and research chemicals. I didn't know. Acid wasn't supposed

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to taste like anything. So if you ever take a

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 1>tab of acid, tells like irritates like metal, spin it out, dude.

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not worth it. Man, you don't have a violent trip, Dude,

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be real rough. So we all popped these

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>tabs right about an hour goes by. Everybody's feeling it

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's having a good time. All of a sudden, dude,

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>one of my guys turns the lights out and starts

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>yelling at everybody. There's cops there, right, and so we

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>all duck down. We're all hiding or whatever, and all

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, we see two cops run past the window,

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.479
<v Speaker 1>and so my buddy, he's tripping out, Dude, he's thinking

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that we're all about to go to jail. Everybody's fucking

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like having a bad trip, and it was terrible, right,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So this is what actually happened, dude, So about like

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes after we took the tabs, this dude got

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>pulled over directly in front of my guy's house, some

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>random dude that nobody knew. And this dude ended up

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking taking off and running from the cops. So the

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>cops ran right past the garage and we're all sitting

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>there hiding from him for like an hour, and all

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>they did was run past. Nobody ended up getting arrested

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and nothing happened. Man, dude, though the crazy first trip.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wasn't all nervous right now, I probably would

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>have told the story about her. But man, that was

0:51:59.000 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a good one.

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, uh, what's your name again? Man, I'm Chris, Chris Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a nice conversation.

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 4>This.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel calm. I feel calm. I feel comfortable talking

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to you. For whatever reason, you seem you're a cool guy.

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, dude, I appreciate that. Man. Hopefully I'll get to

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>come to one of your shows and beat you in person. Man,

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely have a beer with you some storyully.

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, hopefully hopefully we don't have a beer together.

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully we hopefully you know what I'd love, I'd loved

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 4>I'd love maybe one day we can share a diet coke.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 2>That sounds nice.

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>That sounds nice. You're right, what city?

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:38.359
<v Speaker 2>What city are you in?

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm an Illinois man. I'm like great out Chicago.

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, all right, hopefully I'll come back to Chicago

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 4>at some point. I had some good times there. Chris,

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 4>it is nice talking to you brothers. There anything else

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.240
<v Speaker 4>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 4>before we go, No.

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Man, Just dude, I had to call like a hundred times,

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>so if you're calling a hundred times that it might

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>work once. Take care, mister Chris, Ety buddy.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>That was Chris. That was Chris.

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 4>I've decided in this show, I kind of I've been

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 4>thinking a lot about this podcast. This podcast, it's mainly like, uh,

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 4>it's mainly other people talking, which is nice. But I've

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 4>decided I also I want to talk a little bit more.

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 4>So that's why sometimes I talk over people, so which

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 4>I guess I shouldn't do. But I'm trying to be

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 4>more confident, trying to express myself. I'm trying to speak

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 4>more and not be so anxious about things. I'm trying

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 4>to share things about my life. It feels good, it

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 4>feels good to talk and ramble, and I don't. I'm

0:53:55.120 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 4>not as concerned about I'm trying to be less concerned

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 4>about rambling uh or repeating myself.

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:10.959
<v Speaker 2>But I also I think I would. I don't.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't like the idea that the pocket. It's like

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I want a little balance, you know. I don't want

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:20.439
<v Speaker 4>it to be just me and my thoughts because I'll

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 4>get sick of myself almost immediately, But so I'll sprinkle.

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Them in here and there, like I'm doing right now.

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Never goes on the line taking your phone calls every night,

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 3>never goes to his side's.

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Teaching you aloud in them of your life. But he's

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 2>not really an expert.