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Speaker 1: on the show. You're right, that's false. But anyways, we
Speaker 1: have there's a lot going on today. We were going
Speaker 1: to have a full group, but Salvid, I think Derek
Speaker 1: is gonna walk in a little late and then leave
Speaker 1: a little early. He's the boss man around here, so
Speaker 1: I guess he can do whatever he wants. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime we'll get the conversation started last week. We
Speaker 1: started discussing Russell Wilson in his contract, what might what
Speaker 1: might happen there and what that might do to Dax
Speaker 1: contract and future talks are nowadays. They're talking now. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are talking with das people and getting that ball
Speaker 1: rolling now Russell Wilson becomes the most the highest paid
Speaker 1: player in the NFL, which is impressive. He got a
Speaker 1: four year extension worth one hundred and four million dollars
Speaker 1: in hundred forty oh I typed it around hundred up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big difference plus a sixty five million dollars signing bonus,
Speaker 1: which is a ton of money. I mean, shoot, that's
Speaker 1: a lot. But once we started talking about quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: where the market is heading there, what do you think
Speaker 1: that does to Dak Prescott and what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: trying to do here with him. There's a few places
Speaker 1: to go with that. Yeah, it's a topic of much
Speaker 1: consternation among the Cowboys fan base. Um. I think there's
Speaker 1: there's two thoughts there. One. It puts to bed the
Speaker 1: silly notion of Dak Prescott signing an extension for like
Speaker 1: a you know, manageable sum of money. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you think back to like September October, You're talking about
Speaker 1: signing him to like a twenty two twenty five million
Speaker 1: dollar contract. That's not happening. It's just not At the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, people see Russell Wilson's contract and
Speaker 1: they see people saying that Dak is going to break
Speaker 1: the bank, and they think that that means Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: is going to become the highest paid player in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ready to believe that. His people
Speaker 1: might be pushing for it. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: capable of getting that deal, but I do think he's
Speaker 1: capable of signing a thirty million dollar contract or close
Speaker 1: to it. Russ isn't the new number one. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is right behind him. I think Matt Ryan's right after that,
Speaker 1: and I would expect Dak to slot somewhere right in
Speaker 1: their top five quarterbacks in the league in terms of salary.
Speaker 1: Would not surprise me. And yeah, that's that's just the
Speaker 1: new reality that we're living in. And Russ didn't need
Speaker 1: to sign that deal for that to be true. But
Speaker 1: him signing for thirty five million a year only underscores
Speaker 1: the point is the market for good quarterback play is
Speaker 1: insane and Dak Prescott is deserving of a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Might not be the highest paid player in the league,
Speaker 1: but he ain't taken some you know, bargain bin deal
Speaker 1: just because you don't think he's proven. Right now, after
Speaker 1: seeing what happened with DeMarcus Lawrence and the weight that
Speaker 1: was going on there and how we thought they needed
Speaker 1: to hurry it up and it didn't happen right after
Speaker 1: the season. And now with Russell Wilson's extension, do you
Speaker 1: think that this makes the Cowboys kind of push the
Speaker 1: pedal on the gas to go and do it as
Speaker 1: quickly as I don't. I don't think this team moves
Speaker 1: quickly on anything that they don't have to do. UM.
Speaker 1: And I think that I don't think Russell Wilson. I
Speaker 1: just don't believe that it affects the Cowboys one way
Speaker 1: or another. UM. You know, yes, it's up there and
Speaker 1: and it sets it, you know, the number for maybe
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks that might need other deals. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's you know, like Dave said, I think
Speaker 1: he's in the range of you know, twenty eight to thirty.
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't done he hasn't done really anything
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson has done. So I just have a
Speaker 1: hard time thinking that just because that deal is made,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that that Dak is going to get
Speaker 1: that money. I think he's gonna get good money because
Speaker 1: if you just look at don't don't look at Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Just look at Kirk Cousins, look at Derek Carr, look
Speaker 1: at Matthew Stafford, Jim. Yeah, those guys right there are
Speaker 1: getting this money. That's what a good, young, promising quarterback
Speaker 1: should do. If you're established and you've been to two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and one one of them, then you get
Speaker 1: to be a higher level and has a case that
Speaker 1: he should have been one NFL MVP at least once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he's been that, which I agree with this.
Speaker 1: I don't think this changes anything. It doesn't change their
Speaker 1: line of thinking. I don't think it changes what Dak
Speaker 1: would have gotten. Like I said, the problem is, I
Speaker 1: do think they need to hurry and not I mean
Speaker 1: and when I say that, I mean try to get
Speaker 1: something done before the season starts. They don't have to
Speaker 1: do it next week. But it ain't just Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Like Carson Wentz is coming up, Jared Goff is coming up,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is coming up. Pat Mahomes just one NFL MVP,
Speaker 1: so he might not be in the same boat. But
Speaker 1: Goff and Wentz are guys with comparable resumes to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and if they are all of a sudden breaking
Speaker 1: the bank and making You know, if Jared Goff gets
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars a year, thirty three million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, then all of a sudden, Dak Prescott is helping.
Speaker 1: You know, that helps his case, I think. And so
Speaker 1: the quicker you can get this thing done, the quicker
Speaker 1: he will become a bargain because these deals are going
Speaker 1: to keep going up and up. I mean, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I would bet we'll sign a two hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: contract next year. He's eligant, he can negotiate starting in January,
Speaker 1: and he's twenty three throwing fifty touchdowns a year. For
Speaker 1: everybody that's listening that's not sold on Dak, everyone in
Speaker 1: the world is sold on Pat Mahomes, right, So what
Speaker 1: do you think a team would be willing to pay him?
Speaker 1: If a guy that you're not sold on can command
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy million, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the quicker you can get this done, the salary
Speaker 1: cap will keep going up. Other quarterbacks will start signing.
Speaker 1: Dak could be the number three highest paid quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league heading into the season. If he signs in
Speaker 1: July and he would be down at like six seven
Speaker 1: eight a year from now. I just think it's just
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. I think it would
Speaker 1: be better for all parties in my opinion. Now the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have started their offseason workouts, have voluntary offseason workouts,
Speaker 1: and with that, a lot of people before he got started,
Speaker 1: we're asking or wondering whether Sik was going to do
Speaker 1: hold out and all of that. Clearly that was in
Speaker 1: the case because he's been out here, uh practicing or
Speaker 1: working out with his teammates and posting things on social media.
Speaker 1: He seems very committed to this team and very happy
Speaker 1: to be here. So I wanted to get talking about
Speaker 1: some of the guys I've have been out here at.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, a guy that looks like he never left.
Speaker 1: He just looks exactly the same. And Travis, Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see once they actually doesn't look exactly the same. What
Speaker 1: the hair we were trying to Okay, exactly that's my play,
Speaker 1: all right. So Travis Frederick a guy that people keep
Speaker 1: asking about and how he's looking, and how he's doing
Speaker 1: and what's up with him in the near future as
Speaker 1: far as his performance and health wise. You know, he Um,
Speaker 1: everyone's just kind of optim about about where things are
Speaker 1: with him right now. He's back into the off season. Um,
Speaker 1: you know conditioning program, but remember what that is, it's
Speaker 1: it's conditioning. I think, I think which you could see
Speaker 1: from him last year. The problem that he was going
Speaker 1: to have and why everyone was like he's not coming back,
Speaker 1: is because he hasn't really been able to work out.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the strength. And if you need anything
Speaker 1: at the center position other than great awareness, you gotta
Speaker 1: have that strength. You gotta have that base to make
Speaker 1: sure that that you're not letting guys like Antoine Woods
Speaker 1: get get past you. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: He's a good, solid player. But I think now it
Speaker 1: makes more sense why he was getting beat by Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods at training camp because he was going through the
Speaker 1: illness and losing his strength. So right now it looks good.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens when he goes a little further
Speaker 1: and it does he regain the strength that he had
Speaker 1: that may have been a pro Yeah, and I mean
Speaker 1: all credit to him. It looks like he's made a
Speaker 1: ton of progress. Last season, he just he didn't even
Speaker 1: look comfortable walking around, kind of limping and just looked
Speaker 1: like a guy who was going to an old man.
Speaker 1: Really was. It was to the point where you were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had come back. He looked
Speaker 1: like his nervous system had been through a lot, which
Speaker 1: it had, but he looked you know, I saw him
Speaker 1: the other day. He looks he's moving around normal, he
Speaker 1: looks better. He's out there working out. It's a far
Speaker 1: far cry from football. So and I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw water on anything. It's just
Speaker 1: it's one of those things you gotta step by step.
Speaker 1: Like it's a cliche, but it fits in this case
Speaker 1: because it's a long road between you know, he's doing
Speaker 1: suicides out on the field in April and going against
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods a training camp. Those are just two completely
Speaker 1: different things. But it's a very promising start now, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, very far from football and training camp and
Speaker 1: them lining up and doing all these things. But we
Speaker 1: that work here get the privilege to see them and
Speaker 1: see how they look out there, and we finally got
Speaker 1: to see them as a group with the free agent
Speaker 1: guys that came in, the guys at the Cowboys brought in.
Speaker 1: How did this group look to you? Once you saw
Speaker 1: them all together a bunch stuff and just working around.
Speaker 1: I don't look up the window. I don't see anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's against the rules, so I don't
Speaker 1: I don't even know they're out there. I just let
Speaker 1: Dave tell me what he sees. No, I mean this one,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. I think that's even but
Speaker 1: even that's premature, Like how do they you know, like
Speaker 1: they're not This isn't football on any level, Like they're
Speaker 1: doing agility drills and it's really crazy, like what NFL
Speaker 1: rules stipulate, Like they aren't allowed to have a football
Speaker 1: out there, tennis ball out Yeah they can use tennis ball. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I know they can't. They cannot work, they cannot work
Speaker 1: with footballs. Coaches cannot be like anywhere near them. It's
Speaker 1: all player driven, which they have meetings and stuff. Like
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Garrett had his big I get you know,
Speaker 1: not that we were invited, but like his State of
Speaker 1: the Union. Soundly driven is the new slogan this year.
Speaker 1: You can see it on all the sweatshirts if you
Speaker 1: go look at the photo albums. Um but yeah TMS
Speaker 1: that that race already happened. Never mind. Um, the only
Speaker 1: thing that looks really different out there is the fact
Speaker 1: that they put this big wall out there with blue Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's some construction going on at the stars, So
Speaker 1: one of the two look different when you came in
Speaker 1: today and saw all that. Yeah, one of the two
Speaker 1: practice fields is unavailable right now. So yeah, like I mean,
Speaker 1: for you, I know, a lot of fans like go
Speaker 1: look at the photo albums and stuff makes its way
Speaker 1: to social media. Like if you're wondering what the blue
Speaker 1: fence is there for that you're not used to seeing.
Speaker 1: There's some construction going on, so it's roped off right now.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna put a seventeen story building there, put
Speaker 1: a high rise. Um. But I mean, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to be looking out of the window
Speaker 1: to see. All you have to do is go to
Speaker 1: dallascout was out com and see the photo gallery, see
Speaker 1: the whole group that they're working out. But you know,
Speaker 1: like they'll get together for OTAs and even that'll be premature,
Speaker 1: but like literally as exciting as it is to say
Speaker 1: that the whole team is back in the building like
Speaker 1: they're just they're doing sprints and you know, footwork drills,
Speaker 1: which it's really cool to you know, yeah, or is
Speaker 1: the first look of seeing the whole group kind of
Speaker 1: starring come together, like not really though, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know what thanks to each other. Okay, cool, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I'm just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb's got really quick feet. Okay, I knew that
Speaker 1: he's been to a Pro Bowl. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: but your privilege is a great word, Like it's a
Speaker 1: cool privilege just to kind of you know, yeah, going
Speaker 1: back to your point, like people were hinting that Zeke
Speaker 1: might not show up, Like, Zeke's here. I saw him
Speaker 1: in the hallway the other Day's friendly as ever, Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't seem like he's got an attitude problem.
Speaker 1: He's looking good, yeah, like he is getting in really
Speaker 1: good shape. He went he went to you know, Durk
Speaker 1: Novitski's farewell game was last week, and he was there
Speaker 1: with the rest of the team in the suite. He's
Speaker 1: been at all the workouts. He's hanging out in the
Speaker 1: cafeteria being Zeke, like, I mean, if he's if he's
Speaker 1: upset about it, his contract he's doing it now. He's
Speaker 1: doing a good job. Yeah, and I int we go
Speaker 1: into you know, his fourth year. I don't see there
Speaker 1: being that many issues now the fifth year, and if
Speaker 1: you think about it, let's say he has a great season,
Speaker 1: Dak's probably gonna have a new deal by then. What's
Speaker 1: the matter? What's going on? Derek? You can't join us here?
Speaker 1: Derek has entered the studio for those of ye all
Speaker 1: that what. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, he's sitting on the floor.
Speaker 1: All right, you're grounded THEREK he's grading us. So anyways,
Speaker 1: I just feel like, let's see what happens to going
Speaker 1: into that fifth year. That's where we might see a
Speaker 1: little bit of an issue. If there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: deal done yet, if he's got a new contract, if
Speaker 1: if Dak will have a new contract, I'm sure, and
Speaker 1: then we'll see about like it. But a list is
Speaker 1: good to hear that they are starting those conversations, specifically
Speaker 1: with guys like that, like for example, Zeke, Yeah, Byron,
Speaker 1: that's another one. I don't know if they're having those conversations,
Speaker 1: but Stephen Jones specifically said that things are active with
Speaker 1: Dak and Amari right now. Those were the two, and
Speaker 1: that's those are the ones that make the most. I
Speaker 1: thought he mentioned that yesterday, like on defense he did.
Speaker 1: He did, he said specifically in regard to Dak and Amari,
Speaker 1: like those things are active with those two, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: and then I think he even said things can become
Speaker 1: active in a hurry with zeke Er and Byron and
Speaker 1: whoever else. Well, then I definitely mis understood because I
Speaker 1: thought I heard it was like they had also kind
Speaker 1: of started contact with their agents. And I think it's
Speaker 1: safe to say if there's a fifth guy here, I
Speaker 1: think it's Jaylen Smith. I think it's time to start
Speaker 1: talking about that situation because he would be restricted next
Speaker 1: year and I could see them doing something with Jalen.
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be a bargain. I could promise
Speaker 1: you that like that. He that's gonna be a tough one. Well,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thought, I mean, because they don't have to,
Speaker 1: and there's been there's been a lot of confusion about that.
Speaker 1: Stephen was asked about that yesterday too. Jalen Smith is
Speaker 1: not headed for unrestricted free agency. They'll have to I mean,
Speaker 1: rest assuming they don't extend him. Now you know, when
Speaker 1: when the next league gear starts, he'd be a restricted
Speaker 1: free agent. That means you apply one of three tenders
Speaker 1: to him. For Jalen Smith, it would probably have to
Speaker 1: be a first round tender, which would pay him a
Speaker 1: salary of like five million dollars I think, and then
Speaker 1: he would become restricted in twenty twenty one. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they don't have to, but they don't have to. They
Speaker 1: could get out ahead of it if they wanted to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a first round a first round tender would
Speaker 1: probably be a smart thing to do there. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: risk it. I mean, and we say that all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds silly now, but we were like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe they should put a second round tender on David Irving.
Speaker 1: And they didn't, and it wasn't a big deal. But
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, if you don't protect him, I think somebody
Speaker 1: would come after him for sure. Yeah, so all right,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Derek, Welcome back to the show. Thank you,
Speaker 1: nice to have you here. Depones. I really think stop,
Speaker 1: I really think this is like January or February. The
Speaker 1: four of us have been in this room together, probably
Speaker 1: been alone. It's been late eight or nine show, and
Speaker 1: I gotta leave early. So let's get it in. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get started. Okay, So the stop it guys behave
Speaker 1: The schedule comes out tonight. So that's like exciting time
Speaker 1: for the fans and everybody just want to know when
Speaker 1: they're playing and they're what. It's an exciting day for everybody.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I said, everybody. I said, the fans
Speaker 1: and everybody. Okay, I point it up. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just wanted, like you know, I'm excited too. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's I just wanted to say that everybody gets playing
Speaker 1: the rest of the year exactly. It's like it's they
Speaker 1: call the draft football Christmas, but this is close. Like
Speaker 1: it's just you know, you find like when are the
Speaker 1: big games or they is it? When are we playing
Speaker 1: at night? Once? The Thursday game? Christmas? What's going on
Speaker 1: with my family? The weather just yet, it's too early
Speaker 1: to predict the weather for one game does not have
Speaker 1: a roof. I just need I don't know, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of cold weather cities. I will get will
Speaker 1: I will tell you at a certainty if we're playing
Speaker 1: in Chicago and December, it ain't gonna be fun. Just
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that. And I will go
Speaker 1: out on a limb on that one, and that won't
Speaker 1: be fun. I just need a home opener. I just
Speaker 1: need it. Oh yeah, Texas the day before. I know,
Speaker 1: we gotta have that. I need it. Just praying for that.
Speaker 1: That would be nice anyway, Well, home game, home game.
Speaker 1: We've known the opponents, and I thought and we've talked
Speaker 1: about that a few months ago when that came out.
Speaker 1: But since the schedule is coming out today and since
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have acquire new talent and started forming their
Speaker 1: team for twenty nineteen. I thought it maybe it'd be
Speaker 1: fun to go over some of the opponents and who
Speaker 1: would be which one of those would be the toughest
Speaker 1: challenges for the Cowboys this year. I can start Dally.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I'll start the Patriots.
Speaker 1: At the Patriots, I think it's I think that's going
Speaker 1: to be a challenge. The word leaking out of Boston
Speaker 1: is that they're opening on Sunday Night Football against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: so it won't be Dallas, you know which there it'll
Speaker 1: be a cold weather game. I just get ready. You
Speaker 1: don't see that a lot the AFC NFC game, especially
Speaker 1: when you're talking about marquee teams, because one of the
Speaker 1: networks is going to fight like hell for it. And
Speaker 1: Fox doesn't get the Patriots that often, and for them
Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna give it up so NBC can
Speaker 1: have Patriots Dallas, no way. You know, they don't get
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Belicheck that often, just like CBS doesn't
Speaker 1: get the Cowboys that often. You know what, I think
Speaker 1: it's a good point. I don't even think about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's either until I said something on Twitter, like,
Speaker 1: what about Patriots Week one? We know that the Thursday
Speaker 1: game is gonna be Bears and Packers, which, like, that's
Speaker 1: the same reason that Cowboys, you know, the playoffs, like
Speaker 1: the playoffs schedule, the networks fight over those things. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the slugfest to figure out who gets those ratings.
Speaker 1: So that makes a lot of sense that Fox wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to give up the Patriots, especially against the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they don't get it often. Anyway. I think equally
Speaker 1: as tough, if not even maybe maybe a bit tougher
Speaker 1: is going at New Orleans, and not that New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Obviously New England is New England. But I think New
Speaker 1: Orleans at home is as tough as anybody in the
Speaker 1: league playing at their stadium. And obviously they're a good team.
Speaker 1: They got a good quarterback. So I think at New
Speaker 1: Orleans is gonna be as tough as anything you're gonna
Speaker 1: have on your schedule, and timing of that game and
Speaker 1: what you got around that game, I think will be important.
Speaker 1: You don't want that game in the middle of a
Speaker 1: bunch of other tough games. You don't want that game
Speaker 1: coming off a short week. You don't want that. You
Speaker 1: want everything to kind of play into your favorite going
Speaker 1: into games like that with the New England, with New
Speaker 1: England and with New Orleans, you put all those games
Speaker 1: in a row on the road, and that becomes really
Speaker 1: really problematic. I think I would, And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I will contradict myself and eat some crow because I
Speaker 1: say this. I say this every year, like I hate
Speaker 1: the first place schedule, third place schedule because it's a
Speaker 1: league driven by parody. There's no there's no nons you know.
Speaker 1: I mean the Green Bay Packers every April since Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers started started being their quarterback. You're like, well, that's
Speaker 1: a tough game. They went six and nine last year,
Speaker 1: like you don't know for sure, or six nine and one,
Speaker 1: whatever their record was, you never know. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I really think playing a first place schedule this year
Speaker 1: is going to make a difference because I just can't
Speaker 1: imagine that the MS and Saints will be bad, Like
Speaker 1: I just they'll they'll be good. They'll be in the
Speaker 1: mix to win the NFC and you got to play
Speaker 1: both of them. And I think that's gonna make a
Speaker 1: big difference, and it's gonna be a big hurdle. So
Speaker 1: whenever those two games are, they're gonna be big ones.
Speaker 1: One thing is should be noted about that though, and
Speaker 1: this kind of may fly in the face of what
Speaker 1: I just said. I think Saints are always hard at home. However,
Speaker 1: that division, notoriously I'm talking about the NFC South, notoriously
Speaker 1: has a different division winner regularly. It's just like the
Speaker 1: NFC East, like there is no This is not like
Speaker 1: the AFC East where you have the Patriots and then
Speaker 1: you got everybody else. The Saints wanted in seventeen and eighteen,
Speaker 1: and they were the first back to back division champs
Speaker 1: in a long time, right, And so if you're just
Speaker 1: thinking about the historical nature of that division, the likelihood
Speaker 1: that the Saints end up winning that division a third
Speaker 1: time in a row probably not highly likely. So it
Speaker 1: actually may end up that again, it may end up
Speaker 1: that you you find a team that this may be
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. It may be because of an injury,
Speaker 1: it may be because of not having an injury, because
Speaker 1: I think Carolina last year, a lot of people point
Speaker 1: to the fact that Cam Newton wasn't healthy. He might
Speaker 1: not be healthy again this year. But I think there
Speaker 1: are there's enough there that suggests that that you could
Speaker 1: see a situation where the Saints aren't the toughest team
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. I, like I said, ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of years, I agree with you, you can't predict
Speaker 1: who's going to be good in April. But like, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I just very strongly believe that
Speaker 1: the Saints and Rams will both be as good as
Speaker 1: they were last year. No, the Rams are gonna be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think about you know, so you know, if you just
Speaker 1: look at you know, quarterbacks, you know, the top quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that you're gonna face, and look at the top five
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the in the NFL, I mean, everybody's playing
Speaker 1: to put Breeze him there. Everyone's gonna put Brady in there,
Speaker 1: and everyone was gonna put Rogers and they do play
Speaker 1: the Packers, right, three Hall of Famers, So you got
Speaker 1: those three for sure much. And then I mean, I
Speaker 1: hope Russell's up there, you know, because I mean he's
Speaker 1: getting a contract that says he is. Um he's they
Speaker 1: don't play this, they don't play out all this year.
Speaker 1: But golf, you know, I don't know when it's ran
Speaker 1: golf wins if he's healthy, um Stafford, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you got some good Like if you if you went
Speaker 1: through the top fifteen quarterbacks in the league, you're probably
Speaker 1: playing most of them. Yeah, you know. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a there's a this tough this schedule, like just from
Speaker 1: the quarterback, which that you can more rely on than
Speaker 1: a team a team's record last year. You can rely
Speaker 1: on the quality of their quarterback. It ain't It ain't
Speaker 1: an easy schedule at all, not at all. The other thing,
Speaker 1: which going back to what you said about TV networks
Speaker 1: is for the longest time, I didn't understand this. I
Speaker 1: was like, why why do they keep making the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do this back to back Thursday's thing Thanksgiving and then
Speaker 1: the next Thursday. It's because NFL network wants a Cowboys game,
Speaker 1: and that is the only way because they're playing on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: right and changing and then never sorry Eagles, that's never changing.
Speaker 1: But the only so the only way to get them
Speaker 1: on in a Thursday night game is to play them
Speaker 1: the week after Thanksgiving, because a Thanksgiving game is going
Speaker 1: to be on network TV, not NFL network, and it
Speaker 1: would be too much of a disadvantage for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and the only team in the league that has two
Speaker 1: So Thursday games that aren't like that. Either the league
Speaker 1: is going to overrule its own network and say no,
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys are gonna be playing on back to
Speaker 1: back Thursdays for the fifth time in six years, or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I won't be surprised if that's the case.
Speaker 1: What about what about the week before? Is that ever
Speaker 1: an option? I guess so, yeah, you know, I always
Speaker 1: get there would be a short week. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have your short week the week before Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: instead of the week of. But I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: you could, and then that would be kind of unfair
Speaker 1: advantage to the team that you're playing because they're going
Speaker 1: on a short week, And you're right, you would have
Speaker 1: had your mini by But do they do that same
Speaker 1: thing for the team that the Cowboys always play after?
Speaker 1: Is it always a team that plays on Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 1: It believe it has been, because it is. I mean
Speaker 1: it was, who was it it was? I'm drawn a
Speaker 1: total blank right now. It was the Saints, and the
Speaker 1: Saints played the Falcons on Thanksgiving. Yet they usually try
Speaker 1: to do that, So we'll see, which makes sense, Like
Speaker 1: if everybody kind of an equal opportunity there. What do
Speaker 1: we think for the opener? I don't know. As long
Speaker 1: as it's at at and T Stadium at three thirty,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care. I actually hope it's a
Speaker 1: Monday night game. They won't be Monday. You don't think, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be the night everybody gets. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna get a Monday Night or right, it's the same
Speaker 1: reason team it's no I'm saying the Cowboys is gonna
Speaker 1: play at on Monday Night one time? This yes, at least,
Speaker 1: So if you want if you know you're not gonna
Speaker 1: use them Sunday night, you know you're not gonna use
Speaker 1: them for the opener on Thursday, then it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. If you want that primetime spot on Monday
Speaker 1: to go crazy, that's a great time to put the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in there, and then you got nice late of game.
Speaker 1: It's similar logic to why you wouldn't want them to
Speaker 1: play the Patriots. Though, it's like the ratings, the races
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Monday on opening week, Monday Night ratings
Speaker 1: on week one are gonna be like they're gonna be
Speaker 1: through the roof because it's it's the first week of
Speaker 1: the season. It's the first fantasy game, like fantasy swing game. Nice.
Speaker 1: But I'll put it to you like this, anytime you're
Speaker 1: talking about marketing, you want to be able to have
Speaker 1: a great out of the box, big number. And so
Speaker 1: if you tell me that opening week, I can go
Speaker 1: crazy with my with my ratings so that I can
Speaker 1: tell the world, look how popular my game is on
Speaker 1: week one of the season. And we blew last year
Speaker 1: out of the out of the water because I went
Speaker 1: crazy and I put my best teams in primetime. That
Speaker 1: does help you. From Monday night, it won't be at
Speaker 1: home because they go East Coast and West Coast because
Speaker 1: they're doing a double header on Monday night, so it
Speaker 1: won't be a home game. I just don't think that's
Speaker 1: the case. I don't think they will do that. Kids
Speaker 1: don't open their presence on December twenty seven, and they
Speaker 1: don't want to wait one more day to get the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Any let's go put it out there. This will be
Speaker 1: my seventh season, and then the other six it's they
Speaker 1: have always They've played at three thirty or seven thirty
Speaker 1: on Sunday every year, and the Monday night game is
Speaker 1: always like week three or week four. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but it seems like it's always been November last it
Speaker 1: was Christmas a couple of years ago. I just have
Speaker 1: a hard time thinking the opening week this year with
Speaker 1: the excitement Cowboys have some exciting young players. I just
Speaker 1: have a hard time thinking they don't want them in
Speaker 1: primetime week one, like they love prime time opening week anyway,
Speaker 1: it's lit. I mean Fox calls it's three thirty game
Speaker 1: America's game of the week, Like that is I get it.
Speaker 1: I think you're asking people at the league what their
Speaker 1: primetime games are. It ain't the three thirty, I would argue, I, well,
Speaker 1: primetime by definition, it's nighttime. But but available to the
Speaker 1: entire country. You want your best brands in available to
Speaker 1: the entire country, the most valuable, the most valuable time slots. No,
Speaker 1: I would do that at home, the hell driver rating.
Speaker 1: Let's go the most valuable times in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1: Better bathrooms, better results. No bathrooms, not better bathrooms, just
Speaker 1: the literal bathrooms where there is a toilet that is
Speaker 1: running as it should. That was one of the worst experiences.
Speaker 1: I said this the other day. So I don't even
Speaker 1: know who corrected me. But it was a great I said.
Speaker 1: Last year, Jerry Jones went to the bathroom in a
Speaker 1: porta potty for the division game, and I got cut
Speaker 1: off and I was like, no, no, no no, Gene Jones
Speaker 1: went to the restroom in an important rant. That's how
Speaker 1: bad the construction thing was at the coliseum. If that's
Speaker 1: your only option, well they're they're working on something. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's true if history is if history is any indicator,
Speaker 1: it'll be a three thirty game against the division team,
Speaker 1: maybe the Giants, maybe not. I don't know, but that's
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to pick the rant like that
Speaker 1: right personal reasons, I don't. As long as is if
Speaker 1: it's in Arlington, Texas, I don't care. It's why. What's
Speaker 1: wrong with that? It's gonna be hard to get back
Speaker 1: from you. Would you rather play at noon because that's
Speaker 1: your only other option. I'd rather play at night. That's
Speaker 1: it's not it's not happening. That's not how But Monday,
Speaker 1: we don't know about Monday. It could be a Monday.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be, you know. But this
Speaker 1: is why I love the schedule release because it's fine.
Speaker 1: Right now. My whole life is on whole. Like, everything
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do from from about August through till about
Speaker 1: you know, January is all dependent on this schedule and
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna do it. So give me the schedule.
Speaker 1: Let's go, right, let's go seven R time. The NFL
Speaker 1: is there. They are proving their point, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: have an argument because we're sitting, we're speculating. Everybody's so excited,
Speaker 1: but like, there's no reason why this just couldn't be
Speaker 1: an email, right, you know, like and and you know
Speaker 1: they gotta have that NFL, like they gotta have this
Speaker 1: two hour show. Guess what it's like. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing as the brackets. As soon as the damn thing hits,
Speaker 1: I'm not watching your stupid show. I'm circling dates and
Speaker 1: calling people and buying tickets Like, I don't care what
Speaker 1: you have to say about this. I just need the games, right,
Speaker 1: I'm booking flights. I'm not a way past. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I Mike Garafolo, I think he's a great reporter. I
Speaker 1: think the world of him or NFL. I think he
Speaker 1: pronounces a garifolo. Yeah, we've all been misritt. Well, I've
Speaker 1: been the same thing, and then I heard him say
Speaker 1: it himself. My bad. Sorry, dude. I think the world
Speaker 1: of him. I do not care a lick what he
Speaker 1: thinks about the schedule. I'm calling friends and aren't you
Speaker 1: guys putting out a video later tonight about the schedule? Yeah,
Speaker 1: until you people about it. That's a little bit shop
Speaker 1: people care about. You know what they're not. They are
Speaker 1: not Hey, they are not gonna flip on They're not
Speaker 1: gonna flip on our website at seven pm sharp and
Speaker 1: like I got here what Nick and Dave has to say?
Speaker 1: What tomorrow morning? They'll be like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: know what they have when they're done, when they're done
Speaker 1: calling their friends and booking their hotels, they'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: what a Nick and Dave think is? That's not gonna
Speaker 1: be an unveiling in a show, Like it's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: give me some some some analysis on it later dissected
Speaker 1: all you want, but don't expect me to like have
Speaker 1: faded breath, like I gotta NFL Networks about to reveal it,
Speaker 1: Like no, I got it on Twitter and I'm going
Speaker 1: I don't have to about fifty years ago, when that's
Speaker 1: all you have have been sitting in front of the team,
Speaker 1: like what's coming up? They are trying, they are trying
Speaker 1: to like it's it's a nineties idea in a twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen world, and let's just get out of here. I
Speaker 1: don't have time for it. Maybe that affects your I
Speaker 1: mean as a fan, maybe it affects your preference or
Speaker 1: maybe saying, Okay, well this game sounds more interesting, let
Speaker 1: me go to this one instead of this one, because
Speaker 1: there are people that are not active fans. I know
Speaker 1: everything at a lot of your like excitement about this
Speaker 1: is how it plays to LSU. It's just my life
Speaker 1: in general, like r I mean, and it's win the
Speaker 1: bye week? What can I do that week? And wait?
Speaker 1: You know, will I be able to go to the
Speaker 1: LSU Texas game? Can I go see my family for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Like all that with yeah, great point, all those things better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, true, All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: But when we come back, I want to get a
Speaker 1: fan phone call, Derek, what's the phone number? You know
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Speaker 1: it's so funny. All we have to do is just
Speaker 1: wait until seven. I can't have this. We kept discussing
Speaker 1: during the break, We kept discussing all the schedule and
Speaker 1: had I had the packers coming here for about four
Speaker 1: seconds on for the home opener, until I realized they
Speaker 1: play out. This show is going to have a short
Speaker 1: shelf life, like if you're saving it for Thursday or Friday,
Speaker 1: then that then these twenty minutes we're just to waste
Speaker 1: the time. And I apologize for that. Yeah that sound good. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait for the phone call, but since
Speaker 1: it's an international phone called fill it from France, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up man? I'm fine Hi, Dave, how you did good?
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you. Yeah, yeah, thanks Dave. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to put you on the spot first for this one,
Speaker 1: and I hope you relate this question to the two
Speaker 1: other draft gurus on the Draft show. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about route in college the fullback. Is there any
Speaker 1: big bad as people mover in PFA range because I
Speaker 1: filth Cowboys need that kind of guy on short shortage,
Speaker 1: goal line or goal line situations. I have two other
Speaker 1: questions for you all. Why not draft and offenasive tackle
Speaker 1: at two fifty eight? I mean, Collins is in a
Speaker 1: contract here and in fifty if he performs well, it
Speaker 1: might be too expensive to resigning to a new deal.
Speaker 1: If we draft and outea right now, I have a
Speaker 1: year to grow into his football body and learn the system.
Speaker 1: My second question for you all is with such a
Speaker 1: good de line on paper and maybe adding another good
Speaker 1: contributor on the draft, what are your expectations for the
Speaker 1: wolf Enter and jail and they were pretty daunt due
Speaker 1: last season despite some small weaknesses in the line. Thanks
Speaker 1: for taking Michael, have a great day and I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to listen to you for the draft weekend. Bye.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you so nice. Sleep appreciate it, man, Geez.
Speaker 1: I wish you'd called the draft show. I mean, I
Speaker 1: follow the draft. I try to do my best. I
Speaker 1: got nothing for you about fullbacks. I'm sure Dane definitely does.
Speaker 1: Like Dane's got like six of them. I'm sure maybe
Speaker 1: y'all can talk about it. Do you have it tomorrow? Yeah? Thursday? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. They are not going to draft one. Nobody
Speaker 1: in today's NFL ever should Dane only has two with
Speaker 1: draftable grades. There you go five and one is a seven.
Speaker 1: So I have a hard time seeing it because Jimmy's
Speaker 1: Ola Walle resigned I think on a three year deal,
Speaker 1: which and you're right, I mean I wouldn't classify him
Speaker 1: as a badass people mover, which I love that phrase. Um,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Maybe they'll bring a guy in,
Speaker 1: but it's not something that I would bank on. Did
Speaker 1: you just say badass people mover? That's what Philippe said.
Speaker 1: He's like, I want a badass people mover. Sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that, but I did get the second
Speaker 1: part about the offensive tackle with um Lyle Collins being
Speaker 1: you know, in a contract year. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: about fifty eight. But but I think I think at
Speaker 1: this point you take your best play and if there's
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, let's says another Conrad Williams. Situation happens
Speaker 1: where they guys in the first round and he falls.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would overlook it because it could
Speaker 1: make sense. Does he help you right now? Probably not.
Speaker 1: The whole point of the draft is to take the
Speaker 1: best player available, and I absolutely think it's something that
Speaker 1: they would do if it came to that. But this,
Speaker 1: based on conversations that I've had and just based on
Speaker 1: trying to read the tea leaves, I really think this
Speaker 1: is going to be their strategy is I think they're
Speaker 1: comfortable stop gapping that for the time being. And the
Speaker 1: big thing that I think tips that off is that
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming signed on a two year deal, so he's
Speaker 1: here for the foreseeable future. I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I think the world of Lyle Collins, he's an LSU guy,
Speaker 1: but in a world where Troy Brown just got paid
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars by the Raiders, it's very hard for
Speaker 1: me to believe that he'll be here next year. And
Speaker 1: I think, so you have Cam Fleming on a two
Speaker 1: year deal. He's not knocking your socks off. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But he's an experienced guy who has started. He started
Speaker 1: for a super Bowl team. He could slide in and
Speaker 1: be your right tackle as a stop gap measure, and
Speaker 1: then offensive tackle as a priority in next year's draft,
Speaker 1: just like they do. They do it or Conia and
Speaker 1: Connor Williams has flex Absolutely he could do that, or
Speaker 1: and you could sign a journeyman tackle in free agency
Speaker 1: next year. But I think we say it all the time.
Speaker 1: What do they do? They address their needs in affordable
Speaker 1: ways and then focus in the draft. I think this
Speaker 1: time next year they'll be like, well, Fleming is there.
Speaker 1: He can be your right tackle. You would prefer to
Speaker 1: upgrade that, and I think that would be one of
Speaker 1: your top priorities in next year's draft. If it fell
Speaker 1: to where an offensive tackle was the no doubt best
Speaker 1: available option in this year's draft, I think they would
Speaker 1: do it. But they didn't bring any in on visits,
Speaker 1: not a single one. You haven't heard any smoke about it.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like they're comfortable dealing with that
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So because of that, you would kind
Speaker 1: of eliminate the option that some people have posts about
Speaker 1: maybe exchanging him, like trading la Ale Collins for something
Speaker 1: in this draft, I think people get too wrapped up
Speaker 1: in trying to recoup value too quickly. Like you could
Speaker 1: probably trade Lyle Collins for something, but I'd rather have
Speaker 1: him starting at right tackle right. I mean, like if
Speaker 1: you had a backup that you were just thought, wow,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's almost as good or if not better,
Speaker 1: then that's fine. But I still think if you traded
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins right now and got a what third round
Speaker 1: picks I mean he's got one year on his deal, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that fourth round pick, who even knows what
Speaker 1: you get? And now you have a now you have
Speaker 1: a need. Now you people, and you don't have a
Speaker 1: first round pick Lyle Collins. And Lyle Collins is a
Speaker 1: classic case of like, I'm not comfortable letting him go
Speaker 1: because he's bad. I'm making peace with the fact that
Speaker 1: he's so good that he's too expensive to retain. You
Speaker 1: just you can't keep everybody. You're already paying three of
Speaker 1: these guys absurd salaries. So he will probably get offered
Speaker 1: a ton of money because he's a good football player.
Speaker 1: I'd still rather have him start, and then if he
Speaker 1: signs the type of deal I think he's capable of getting,
Speaker 1: you'll get a comp pick for him. That's how these
Speaker 1: things work. So you add a compick to future draft class,
Speaker 1: you take a step back in the twenty twenty offseason
Speaker 1: with a hope of addressing the problem in the draft.
Speaker 1: But if you deal him now, great, Yeah, you get
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, and all of a sudden, your
Speaker 1: line's not as good and this team is positioned to
Speaker 1: make a playoff run. I don't know why you would
Speaker 1: want to get rid of him, but let's let's look
Speaker 1: at it maybe in a way that's more practical. It's
Speaker 1: not the fifty eighth overall pick, but it's the fifth
Speaker 1: round pick. It's the fourth round pick of a guy
Speaker 1: with traits with good side that says, all right, Colombo's
Speaker 1: gonna work with him all year long, and if we
Speaker 1: do lose, you know, lay out at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. Now we've got this guy that's been grooming,
Speaker 1: so that that's more of a possibility. And I want
Speaker 1: to address that third question because I've said this before.
Speaker 1: I think it's a sneaky need in the draft as
Speaker 1: a linebacker you don't think about it because Sean Lead
Speaker 1: came back and you've got two studs in Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: and Layton, but you did lose Damien Wilson, and we'll
Speaker 1: see about Covington. You do have some some needs there
Speaker 1: on special teams. I could see a mid round pick
Speaker 1: there for the linebacker. They brought a couple in the
Speaker 1: They've drafted a linebacker ten of the last thirteen years.
Speaker 1: They absolutely love to do it. Yeah, and they've doubled
Speaker 1: up a few times, including last year. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine Sean Lee playing much longer than
Speaker 1: one more season, maybe two. Joe Thomas is in a
Speaker 1: contract year, so it's not a need right now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see him using a mid round pick on
Speaker 1: that you mentioned Covington. I know, obviously we didn't get
Speaker 1: to see much out of him, but based on the
Speaker 1: things that we did get to see, do you see
Speaker 1: him being like something promising for the future or even
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, I just just going off the
Speaker 1: eye test. I mean, he's got the size, he's got
Speaker 1: the bill that that you want. He's his neck is
Speaker 1: bigger than my torso, like he's one of those guys
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's kind of an intriguing prospect
Speaker 1: because he played quarterback for so many years. I know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for his first two three years maybe, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I think his last couple of years he started
Speaker 1: obviously getting bigger and made that switch to defense. But
Speaker 1: you know, from an awareness standpoint of where things need
Speaker 1: to be, he should be further along there. So he
Speaker 1: didn't get to play at last year, but I think
Speaker 1: they're they're loading him up to play a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're I mean, we haven't really seen much.
Speaker 1: He was inactive like sixteen out of or fifteen out
Speaker 1: of sixteen games, I think, But I think they drafted
Speaker 1: him to be there next Sam ideally, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if that comes to pass, but I think
Speaker 1: he's going to have one of the first cracks at it. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a question here about the backup quarterback, and
Speaker 1: I guess we don't tend to talk about the backup
Speaker 1: very much, but since it's here, unless you go ahead
Speaker 1: and go for it, who would be the backup right now?
Speaker 1: It's early to tell because they haven't been back on
Speaker 1: the field and you know, practicing that kind of way.
Speaker 1: But you got Mike White Cooper Rush, who's looking like
Speaker 1: the best fit to be behind Deck. I just don't
Speaker 1: see how Mike White won't make that progression to be
Speaker 1: the backup. And I think that if he doesn't, if
Speaker 1: Cooper is still the guy, then I just I don't
Speaker 1: see those three guys being the quarterbacks this year. I
Speaker 1: just I don't see that happening. They're going to have
Speaker 1: other needs at other positions. I understood it last year
Speaker 1: because they want to develop Mike White. If he hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where he can replace Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: then I don't know. If he's the guy, then I
Speaker 1: would probably just keep two quarterbacks. He needs to make
Speaker 1: that jump to me to be the second quarterback then,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they'll do that. I just don't see why you
Speaker 1: would need to hang on to both of these guys.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not trying to gloat at y'all. I
Speaker 1: really want to gloat it Ryan, but he's not here.
Speaker 1: But Brian through the ticker tape parade for Mike White
Speaker 1: and I've all spring, I was like, Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: going to be the backup quarterback. He just is and
Speaker 1: I was right. So there you go, Brian. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I kind of feeling thank you, you're right,
Speaker 1: good good, good point. Damn Now I feel bad I
Speaker 1: was right, but I kind of feel the same way
Speaker 1: this year, And like in theory, you're right, and they
Speaker 1: drafted this guy and they need to develop him. I
Speaker 1: think about that all the time, though, is like, what,
Speaker 1: like the only reason I'm not trying to downplay Deck's success,
Speaker 1: but like he got reps, you know, like if none,
Speaker 1: if he hadn't if Kellen Moore hadn't gotten hurt and
Speaker 1: Romo hadn't gotten hurt, He's getting like two reps per game,
Speaker 1: and does he ever really I mean per practice and
Speaker 1: does he really have a chance to show anything? Like
Speaker 1: are they just gonna are they just gonna give Mike
Speaker 1: White those reps without him having to earn him? And
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then how's he gonna pass Cooper Rush?
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how many reps there are
Speaker 1: to go around, Like, if he's only getting four snaps
Speaker 1: per team period, is he really getting enough of a chance?
Speaker 1: And that's what I wonder about, Well, let's give him
Speaker 1: more than force Nam suppar team. Maybe they will, but
Speaker 1: that I'm just like the way they divvy those things up.
Speaker 1: And he's their drafted guy, so they might do it
Speaker 1: in the interest of seeing more of him, and that
Speaker 1: I think people forget that sometimes that you know, I
Speaker 1: joke with you about Mickey. You know, he says that
Speaker 1: a lot like I was right. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1: Scouts want to be right, too, true, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to be right if that guy doesn't play, So they
Speaker 1: don't want to Somebody stood on the table for Mike White.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be It's the classic. It is
Speaker 1: the classic dynamic though, like scouts want to be right
Speaker 1: and coaches want their guys like it is the eternal.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we always joke like the these coaches
Speaker 1: want to go with the boring guy that they trust
Speaker 1: and you want to see more from the exciting draft pick.
Speaker 1: And I understand that, but I know this coaching staff
Speaker 1: and that's I mean case in point. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to throw shade at Jamay's olawally, but like those are
Speaker 1: the types of guys that they resigned because they trust them.
Speaker 1: They can do a variety of things. So if Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush has the trust of the right people, then it
Speaker 1: might not matter and it's something it's something to watch.
Speaker 1: I don't know it would I think it would be
Speaker 1: great for this roster if they felt confident enough to
Speaker 1: go with two quarterbacks like because it's it's that's a
Speaker 1: whole other player that you can add to do a
Speaker 1: variety of other things as opposed to be inactive on
Speaker 1: game day, which is what your third quarterback is. So
Speaker 1: now let's go back to the draft. I see Taylor
Speaker 1: rap name pop a lot on here. He's a safety guy,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of questions whether the Cowboys might
Speaker 1: be in the right spot to even get him. So
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, the possibility of the Cowboys actually him
Speaker 1: falling down to the Cowboys. I'm oh, sorry, well he's
Speaker 1: he's in there makes something that I think safety comes
Speaker 1: down to the preference there. I think there's a handful
Speaker 1: of guys that teams, you know, probably all have I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say all grouped together, but but you know, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some guys that are the fifth guy on
Speaker 1: their board, fifth safety, and this team might have them
Speaker 1: number one. It's just going to come down to what
Speaker 1: you like for these guys to be that they came
Speaker 1: in rap Thornhill. The guy that we're going to profile
Speaker 1: right now, Chauncey Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Right. So there's about
Speaker 1: five of those guys in the second round, and I
Speaker 1: think that all of those are they very close to
Speaker 1: each other. As far as talent, it's I think so
Speaker 1: well that. I mean, if Taylor Rapp is available, it
Speaker 1: will be because of I'm using air quotes here because
Speaker 1: it's sarcasm, a perceived lack of talent, because he ran
Speaker 1: a four seven at his pro day, which is bad
Speaker 1: for a safety. His tapes outstanding, he was a boss
Speaker 1: in one of the best conferences in college football, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah um. But you know, if he slides, it'll
Speaker 1: be because he was too slow at a stupid drill
Speaker 1: that that doesn't actually pretend to football. So the interesting
Speaker 1: thing about you're calling the forty stupid drill, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's I mean, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I think for defensive backs it is important.
Speaker 1: But like when you see the tape of him closing
Speaker 1: gap apps and making plays on the ball, I don't
Speaker 1: care that him running in a straight line, which nobody
Speaker 1: ever does, right, I don't know. Maybe that helps the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It might, And that's if he's available for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it will be because of a drill and not because
Speaker 1: of anything that he has put on table. But scouts
Speaker 1: and people that do that job are smarter than just
Speaker 1: crazy looking at crazier things have happened. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: that I find interested. The guy that I I like.
Speaker 1: There is a thornhill. One thornhill from Virginia, but one Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go? Is that? Okay? That's what I said. Um,
Speaker 1: he would tell you guys all the time in English,
Speaker 1: That's what I said. He would be. You know, he's
Speaker 1: interesting because he's a safety, but he played two years
Speaker 1: at corner at Virginia and he's got the look that
Speaker 1: Christopher Shard definitely likes to see there at the cornerback
Speaker 1: because Johnsy's the same way. Jauncy Gardner. Johnson played his
Speaker 1: last season at Florida in the slot. Long Arms played
Speaker 1: some safety. I mean, I could see them valuing a
Speaker 1: guy with the often desired position flex because just like
Speaker 1: the guy called about tackle, cornerback is interesting too. Cornerback
Speaker 1: is one of those positions where yeah, Jones, Jones of WOZ, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see that, but what about next years? Jones coming back,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown. Cornerback has got to be addressed
Speaker 1: in this draft at some point. I like it changes
Speaker 1: so much. That's what I was gonna say, is like
Speaker 1: it's exhausting. The draft is exhausting enough, but when you
Speaker 1: don't pick till fifty eight, like the it's like, well,
Speaker 1: will he be there? And it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That depends on what thirty two other teams do twice
Speaker 1: basically because you're five picks away from the end of
Speaker 1: the second round, so who on earth knows? But I
Speaker 1: just sort of I'm just starting to feel like cornerback,
Speaker 1: it's something to consider. Like you watch Hi, okay cornerback safety.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they allow Chris Richard to be
Speaker 1: very involved in these conversations and allow him to have
Speaker 1: a pretty good input. Part of why I think that
Speaker 1: they might do that because he's like, look, I need
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, if we're not going to keep
Speaker 1: Byron or Anthony Brown for that matter, I need a
Speaker 1: guy who can do what I wanted to do, who
Speaker 1: fits my mold, like not trying to project too far
Speaker 1: in the future. But if I'm going to be the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or maybe the head coach, who the hell knows,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I think that's it's fascinating
Speaker 1: because the coaching staff doesn't get involved in this process
Speaker 1: until recently, like you know, the thirty visits the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. So the narrative that you heard in January,
Speaker 1: when it's only the personnel people doing the legwork. It
Speaker 1: changes when the coaches get involved and Chris Richard starts
Speaker 1: really watching tape and he's like that guy, I need
Speaker 1: that guy in my defense will be so much better.
Speaker 1: Or Rod Marinelli is like, that's the guy that can
Speaker 1: come around the right side. I mean that was DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That was the narrative the whole time is Rod says
Speaker 1: he's the dude, and like that matters what these coaches
Speaker 1: think and say about these prospects, and it changes the
Speaker 1: draft board. So it'll be interesting. I mean, that's if
Speaker 1: they draft the defensive back really high. That's Scott Christoshar
Speaker 1: had written all over it. Well, we're about the end
Speaker 1: of the show, but since we started late, let's just
Speaker 1: have a couple of minutes. I wanted to bring this
Speaker 1: question in and Brian said it. I thought it was ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but since we mentioned him earlier, let's just go ahead
Speaker 1: and go for it. The chance thoughts on moving Byron
Speaker 1: back to his old position, Oh, why exactly? I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Why would you? I mean, he was named
Speaker 1: second team All Pro, he was a pro bowler, and
Speaker 1: I mean there's a case to be made that his
Speaker 1: play slipped the final month of the season. He had
Speaker 1: hip surgery, so maybe in hindsight that was part of it,
Speaker 1: But no, my gosh, he was so good at corner
Speaker 1: and the safeties are better than the backup corners to me.
Speaker 1: I mean if when I look at Jordan Lewis and
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown playing their positions as opposed to Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: and say, if he were to draft a corner, since
Speaker 1: you're looking for a corner, would you consider drafting a
Speaker 1: corner if it comes to being someone good at the
Speaker 1: fifty eight Well, I have a hard time believing that
Speaker 1: a cornerback you would draft at fifty eight is going
Speaker 1: to be better than a pro bowler right off the bat.
Speaker 1: I think any any defense in which Nick I think
Speaker 1: you make a great point is I would guess that
Speaker 1: they're going to draft a guy who can do a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. You remember Xavier Woods his rookie season,
Speaker 1: he was a sub package player, He played in the slot.
Speaker 1: He was their third safety when they did dime and
Speaker 1: Money forty four and all those good things. I think
Speaker 1: that would likely be the role for a corner or
Speaker 1: a safety that even though it's fifty eight, it's not
Speaker 1: that much different than when they drafted Byron Jones at
Speaker 1: twenty seven and back in twenty fifteen and where it
Speaker 1: was like, I think he's gonna play corner right now,
Speaker 1: he might move to safety, might move back to corner.
Speaker 1: I could. I could see. This is where you're looking
Speaker 1: at value and you can get safety is a need
Speaker 1: and cornerback is a need that's coming up. It just
Speaker 1: makes sense to get a guy. How many of them
Speaker 1: are like that? Gardner Johnson three, I mean a few,
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson and Thornhill for sure. I don't know about
Speaker 1: rap reps. Probably REP could probably do a little bit.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abram, who we have on the cover of this
Speaker 1: draft of the linebacker safety, but hey, bring him on too.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Well, we're very close up to
Speaker 1: the draft, so we'll know pretty soon what happens there.
Speaker 1: And we have a press conference here at twelve thirty,
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