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Speaker 1: rolling now Russell Wilson becomes the most the highest paid

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Speaker 1: in hundred forty oh I typed it around hundred up there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big difference plus a sixty five million dollars signing bonus,

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Speaker 1: a lot. But once we started talking about quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: where the market is heading there, what do you think

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Speaker 1: that does to Dak Prescott and what the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: there's two thoughts there. One. It puts to bed the

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Speaker 1: silly notion of Dak Prescott signing an extension for like

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Speaker 1: same time, you know, people see Russell Wilson's contract and

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ready to believe that. His people

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Speaker 1: Would not surprise me. And yeah, that's that's just the

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Speaker 1: Might not be the highest paid player in the league,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Derek, Welcome back to the show. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: You don't want that game in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other tough games. You don't want that game

426
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Speaker 1: coming off a short week. You don't want that. You

427
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: want everything to kind of play into your favorite going

428
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: into games like that with the New England, with New

429
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: England and with New Orleans, you put all those games

430
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Speaker 1: in a row on the road, and that becomes really

431
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Speaker 1: really problematic. I think I would, And so I'm gonna

432
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Speaker 1: I will contradict myself and eat some crow because I

433
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: say this. I say this every year, like I hate

434
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: the first place schedule, third place schedule because it's a

435
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: league driven by parody. There's no there's no nons you know.

436
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean the Green Bay Packers every April since Aaron

437
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers started started being their quarterback. You're like, well, that's

438
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: a tough game. They went six and nine last year,

439
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: like you don't know for sure, or six nine and one,

440
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: whatever their record was, you never know. Having said that,

441
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I really think playing a first place schedule this year

442
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: is going to make a difference because I just can't

443
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Speaker 1: imagine that the MS and Saints will be bad, Like

444
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: I just they'll they'll be good. They'll be in the

445
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: mix to win the NFC and you got to play

446
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: both of them. And I think that's gonna make a

447
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: big difference, and it's gonna be a big hurdle. So

448
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: whenever those two games are, they're gonna be big ones.

449
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: One thing is should be noted about that though, and

450
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: this kind of may fly in the face of what

451
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: I just said. I think Saints are always hard at home. However,

452
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: that division, notoriously I'm talking about the NFC South, notoriously

453
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: has a different division winner regularly. It's just like the

454
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: NFC East, like there is no This is not like

455
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: the AFC East where you have the Patriots and then

456
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: you got everybody else. The Saints wanted in seventeen and eighteen,

457
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: and they were the first back to back division champs

458
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: in a long time, right, And so if you're just

459
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Speaker 1: thinking about the historical nature of that division, the likelihood

460
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Speaker 1: that the Saints end up winning that division a third

461
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: time in a row probably not highly likely. So it

462
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Speaker 1: actually may end up that again, it may end up

463
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Speaker 1: that you you find a team that this may be

464
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. It may be because of an injury,

465
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Speaker 1: it may be because of not having an injury, because

466
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: I think Carolina last year, a lot of people point

467
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: to the fact that Cam Newton wasn't healthy. He might

468
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: not be healthy again this year. But I think there

469
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Speaker 1: are there's enough there that suggests that that you could

470
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Speaker 1: see a situation where the Saints aren't the toughest team

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Speaker 1: in the NFC South. I, like I said, ninety nine

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Speaker 1: percent of years, I agree with you, you can't predict

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Speaker 1: who's going to be good in April. But like, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I just very strongly believe that

475
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Speaker 1: the Saints and Rams will both be as good as

476
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Speaker 1: they were last year. No, the Rams are gonna be good. Yeah,

477
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: think about you know, so you know, if you just

478
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: look at you know, quarterbacks, you know, the top quarterbacks

479
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: that you're gonna face, and look at the top five

480
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the in the NFL, I mean, everybody's playing

481
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: to put Breeze him there. Everyone's gonna put Brady in there,

482
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: and everyone was gonna put Rogers and they do play

483
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: the Packers, right, three Hall of Famers, So you got

484
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: those three for sure much. And then I mean, I

485
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: hope Russell's up there, you know, because I mean he's

486
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Speaker 1: getting a contract that says he is. Um he's they

487
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Speaker 1: don't play this, they don't play out all this year.

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Speaker 1: But golf, you know, I don't know when it's ran

489
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: golf wins if he's healthy, um Stafford, Yeah, I mean

490
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: you got some good Like if you if you went

491
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: through the top fifteen quarterbacks in the league, you're probably

492
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: playing most of them. Yeah, you know. I mean there's

493
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: a there's a this tough this schedule, like just from

494
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Speaker 1: the quarterback, which that you can more rely on than

495
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: a team a team's record last year. You can rely

496
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: on the quality of their quarterback. It ain't It ain't

497
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Speaker 1: an easy schedule at all, not at all. The other thing,

498
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: which going back to what you said about TV networks

499
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: is for the longest time, I didn't understand this. I

500
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: was like, why why do they keep making the Cowboys

501
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: do this back to back Thursday's thing Thanksgiving and then

502
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: the next Thursday. It's because NFL network wants a Cowboys game,

503
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: and that is the only way because they're playing on Thanksgiving,

504
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: right and changing and then never sorry Eagles, that's never changing.

505
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: But the only so the only way to get them

506
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: on in a Thursday night game is to play them

507
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: the week after Thanksgiving, because a Thanksgiving game is going

508
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: to be on network TV, not NFL network, and it

509
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: would be too much of a disadvantage for the Cowboys,

510
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: and the only team in the league that has two

511
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: So Thursday games that aren't like that. Either the league

512
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: is going to overrule its own network and say no,

513
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys are gonna be playing on back to

514
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: back Thursdays for the fifth time in six years, or

515
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I won't be surprised if that's the case.

516
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Speaker 1: What about what about the week before? Is that ever

517
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: an option? I guess so, yeah, you know, I always

518
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: get there would be a short week. I mean, yeah,

519
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: you would have your short week the week before Thanksgiving

520
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: instead of the week of. But I mean, I guess

521
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: you could, and then that would be kind of unfair

522
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: advantage to the team that you're playing because they're going

523
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: on a short week, And you're right, you would have

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: had your mini by But do they do that same

525
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: thing for the team that the Cowboys always play after?

526
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Is it always a team that plays on Thanksgiving Day?

527
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Speaker 1: It believe it has been, because it is. I mean

528
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Speaker 1: it was, who was it it was? I'm drawn a

529
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: total blank right now. It was the Saints, and the

530
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: Saints played the Falcons on Thanksgiving. Yet they usually try

531
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: to do that, So we'll see, which makes sense, Like

532
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: if everybody kind of an equal opportunity there. What do

533
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: we think for the opener? I don't know. As long

534
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: as it's at at and T Stadium at three thirty,

535
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't care. I actually hope it's a

536
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Monday night game. They won't be Monday. You don't think, No,

537
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be the night everybody gets. Everybody's

538
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: gonna get a Monday Night or right, it's the same

539
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: reason team it's no I'm saying the Cowboys is gonna

540
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: play at on Monday Night one time? This yes, at least,

541
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: So if you want if you know you're not gonna

542
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: use them Sunday night, you know you're not gonna use

543
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: them for the opener on Thursday, then it makes sense

544
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: to me. If you want that primetime spot on Monday

545
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: to go crazy, that's a great time to put the

546
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys in there, and then you got nice late of game.

547
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: It's similar logic to why you wouldn't want them to

548
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: play the Patriots. Though, it's like the ratings, the races

549
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Monday on opening week, Monday Night ratings

550
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: on week one are gonna be like they're gonna be

551
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: through the roof because it's it's the first week of

552
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: the season. It's the first fantasy game, like fantasy swing game. Nice.

553
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: But I'll put it to you like this, anytime you're

554
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: talking about marketing, you want to be able to have

555
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: a great out of the box, big number. And so

556
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: if you tell me that opening week, I can go

557
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: crazy with my with my ratings so that I can

558
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: tell the world, look how popular my game is on

559
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: week one of the season. And we blew last year

560
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: out of the out of the water because I went

561
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: crazy and I put my best teams in primetime. That

562
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: does help you. From Monday night, it won't be at

563
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: home because they go East Coast and West Coast because

564
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: they're doing a double header on Monday night, so it

565
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: won't be a home game. I just don't think that's

566
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: the case. I don't think they will do that. Kids

567
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: don't open their presence on December twenty seven, and they

568
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: don't want to wait one more day to get the Cowboys.

569
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: Any let's go put it out there. This will be

570
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: my seventh season, and then the other six it's they

571
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: have always They've played at three thirty or seven thirty

572
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: on Sunday every year, and the Monday night game is

573
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: always like week three or week four. I don't know why,

574
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: but it seems like it's always been November last it

575
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: was Christmas a couple of years ago. I just have

576
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: a hard time thinking the opening week this year with

577
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: the excitement Cowboys have some exciting young players. I just

578
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: have a hard time thinking they don't want them in

579
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: primetime week one, like they love prime time opening week anyway,

580
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: it's lit. I mean Fox calls it's three thirty game

581
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: America's game of the week, Like that is I get it.

582
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I think you're asking people at the league what their

583
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: primetime games are. It ain't the three thirty, I would argue, I, well,

584
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: primetime by definition, it's nighttime. But but available to the

585
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: entire country. You want your best brands in available to

586
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: the entire country, the most valuable, the most valuable time slots. No,

587
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: I would do that at home, the hell driver rating.

588
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Let's go the most valuable times in the NFL this year.

589
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Better bathrooms, better results. No bathrooms, not better bathrooms, just

590
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: the literal bathrooms where there is a toilet that is

591
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: running as it should. That was one of the worst experiences.

592
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I said this the other day. So I don't even

593
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: know who corrected me. But it was a great I said.

594
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Last year, Jerry Jones went to the bathroom in a

595
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: porta potty for the division game, and I got cut

596
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: off and I was like, no, no, no no, Gene Jones

597
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: went to the restroom in an important rant. That's how

598
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: bad the construction thing was at the coliseum. If that's

599
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: your only option, well they're they're working on something. I mean,

600
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: there's true if history is if history is any indicator,

601
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: it'll be a three thirty game against the division team,

602
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: maybe the Giants, maybe not. I don't know, but that's

603
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to pick the rant like that

604
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: right personal reasons, I don't. As long as is if

605
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: it's in Arlington, Texas, I don't care. It's why. What's

606
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: wrong with that? It's gonna be hard to get back

607
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: from you. Would you rather play at noon because that's

608
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: your only other option. I'd rather play at night. That's

609
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: it's not it's not happening. That's not how But Monday,

610
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: we don't know about Monday. It could be a Monday.

611
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be, you know. But this

612
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: is why I love the schedule release because it's fine.

613
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: Right now. My whole life is on whole. Like, everything

614
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do from from about August through till about

615
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, January is all dependent on this schedule and

616
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna do it. So give me the schedule.

617
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Let's go, right, let's go seven R time. The NFL

618
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: is there. They are proving their point, Like, I don't

619
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: have an argument because we're sitting, we're speculating. Everybody's so excited,

620
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: but like, there's no reason why this just couldn't be

621
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: an email, right, you know, like and and you know

622
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: they gotta have that NFL, like they gotta have this

623
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: two hour show. Guess what it's like. It's the same

624
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: thing as the brackets. As soon as the damn thing hits,

625
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm not watching your stupid show. I'm circling dates and

626
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: calling people and buying tickets Like, I don't care what

627
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: you have to say about this. I just need the games, right,

628
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm booking flights. I'm not a way past. I don't care.

629
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: I Mike Garafolo, I think he's a great reporter. I

630
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: think the world of him or NFL. I think he

631
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: pronounces a garifolo. Yeah, we've all been misritt. Well, I've

632
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: been the same thing, and then I heard him say

633
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: it himself. My bad. Sorry, dude. I think the world

634
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: of him. I do not care a lick what he

635
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: thinks about the schedule. I'm calling friends and aren't you

636
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Speaker 1: guys putting out a video later tonight about the schedule? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: until you people about it. That's a little bit shop

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Speaker 1: people care about. You know what they're not. They are

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Speaker 1: not Hey, they are not gonna flip on They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna flip on our website at seven pm sharp and

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Speaker 1: like I got here what Nick and Dave has to say?

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Speaker 1: What tomorrow morning? They'll be like, hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: know what they have when they're done, when they're done

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Speaker 1: calling their friends and booking their hotels, they'll be like, well,

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Speaker 1: what a Nick and Dave think is? That's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be an unveiling in a show, Like it's gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: give me some some some analysis on it later dissected

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Speaker 1: all you want, but don't expect me to like have

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Speaker 1: faded breath, like I gotta NFL Networks about to reveal it,

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Speaker 1: Like no, I got it on Twitter and I'm going

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Speaker 1: like what's coming up? They are trying, they are trying

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Speaker 1: to like it's it's a nineties idea in a twenty

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Speaker 1: don't have time for it. Maybe that affects your I

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Speaker 1: mean as a fan, maybe it affects your preference or

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Speaker 1: maybe saying, Okay, well this game sounds more interesting, let

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Speaker 1: me go to this one instead of this one, because

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Speaker 1: Like all that with yeah, great point, all those things better? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so funny. All we have to do is just

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Speaker 1: wait until seven. I can't have this. We kept discussing

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Speaker 1: the time. And I apologize for that. Yeah that sound good. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna wait for the phone call, but since

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Speaker 1: it's an international phone called fill it from France, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up man? I'm fine Hi, Dave, how you did good?

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Speaker 1: Good to hear from you. Yeah, yeah, thanks Dave. I'm

733
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Speaker 1: sorry to put you on the spot first for this one,

734
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Speaker 1: and I hope you relate this question to the two

735
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: other draft gurus on the Draft show. I want to

736
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: talk about route in college the fullback. Is there any

737
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: big bad as people mover in PFA range because I

738
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: filth Cowboys need that kind of guy on short shortage,

739
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: goal line or goal line situations. I have two other

740
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: questions for you all. Why not draft and offenasive tackle

741
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: at two fifty eight? I mean, Collins is in a

742
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: contract here and in fifty if he performs well, it

743
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: might be too expensive to resigning to a new deal.

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Speaker 1: If we draft and outea right now, I have a

745
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Speaker 1: year to grow into his football body and learn the system.

746
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: My second question for you all is with such a

747
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: good de line on paper and maybe adding another good

748
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: contributor on the draft, what are your expectations for the

749
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Speaker 1: wolf Enter and jail and they were pretty daunt due

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Speaker 1: last season despite some small weaknesses in the line. Thanks

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00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: for taking Michael, have a great day and I'm looking

752
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Speaker 1: forward to listen to you for the draft weekend. Bye.

753
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: Thank thank you so nice. Sleep appreciate it, man, Geez.

754
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: I wish you'd called the draft show. I mean, I

755
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Speaker 1: follow the draft. I try to do my best. I

756
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: got nothing for you about fullbacks. I'm sure Dane definitely does.

757
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: Like Dane's got like six of them. I'm sure maybe

758
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: y'all can talk about it. Do you have it tomorrow? Yeah? Thursday? Yeah,

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00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: I would. They are not going to draft one. Nobody

760
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: in today's NFL ever should Dane only has two with

761
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: draftable grades. There you go five and one is a seven.

762
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: So I have a hard time seeing it because Jimmy's

763
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Speaker 1: Ola Walle resigned I think on a three year deal,

764
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Speaker 1: which and you're right, I mean I wouldn't classify him

765
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Speaker 1: as a badass people mover, which I love that phrase. Um,

766
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Maybe they'll bring a guy in,

767
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: but it's not something that I would bank on. Did

768
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: you just say badass people mover? That's what Philippe said.

769
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Speaker 1: He's like, I want a badass people mover. Sorry, it's okay.

770
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Speaker 1: I didn't get that, but I did get the second

771
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Speaker 1: part about the offensive tackle with um Lyle Collins being

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Speaker 1: you know, in a contract year. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about fifty eight. But but I think I think at

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Speaker 1: this point you take your best play and if there's

775
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, let's says another Conrad Williams. Situation happens

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Speaker 1: where they guys in the first round and he falls.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would overlook it because it could

778
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: make sense. Does he help you right now? Probably not.

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00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: The whole point of the draft is to take the

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Speaker 1: best player available, and I absolutely think it's something that

781
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: they would do if it came to that. But this,

782
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Speaker 1: based on conversations that I've had and just based on

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Speaker 1: trying to read the tea leaves, I really think this

784
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Speaker 1: is going to be their strategy is I think they're

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Speaker 1: comfortable stop gapping that for the time being. And the

786
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Speaker 1: big thing that I think tips that off is that

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Speaker 1: Cam Fleming signed on a two year deal, so he's

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Speaker 1: here for the foreseeable future. I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I think the world of Lyle Collins, he's an LSU guy,

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Speaker 1: but in a world where Troy Brown just got paid

791
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Speaker 1: seventy million dollars by the Raiders, it's very hard for

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Speaker 1: me to believe that he'll be here next year. And

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Speaker 1: I think, so you have Cam Fleming on a two

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Speaker 1: year deal. He's not knocking your socks off. I understand that.

795
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: But he's an experienced guy who has started. He started

796
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: for a super Bowl team. He could slide in and

797
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: be your right tackle as a stop gap measure, and

798
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: then offensive tackle as a priority in next year's draft,

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Speaker 1: just like they do. They do it or Conia and

800
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Connor Williams has flex Absolutely he could do that, or

801
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: and you could sign a journeyman tackle in free agency

802
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: next year. But I think we say it all the time.

803
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: What do they do? They address their needs in affordable

804
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: ways and then focus in the draft. I think this

805
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: time next year they'll be like, well, Fleming is there.

806
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: He can be your right tackle. You would prefer to

807
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: upgrade that, and I think that would be one of

808
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: your top priorities in next year's draft. If it fell

809
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: to where an offensive tackle was the no doubt best

810
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: available option in this year's draft, I think they would

811
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Speaker 1: do it. But they didn't bring any in on visits,

812
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: not a single one. You haven't heard any smoke about it.

813
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I just I feel like they're comfortable dealing with that

814
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So because of that, you would kind

815
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Speaker 1: of eliminate the option that some people have posts about

816
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: maybe exchanging him, like trading la Ale Collins for something

817
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: in this draft, I think people get too wrapped up

818
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: in trying to recoup value too quickly. Like you could

819
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: probably trade Lyle Collins for something, but I'd rather have

820
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: him starting at right tackle right. I mean, like if

821
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: you had a backup that you were just thought, wow,

822
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's almost as good or if not better,

823
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: then that's fine. But I still think if you traded

824
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins right now and got a what third round

825
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: picks I mean he's got one year on his deal, yeah,

826
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean that fourth round pick, who even knows what

827
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: you get? And now you have a now you have

828
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: a need. Now you people, and you don't have a

829
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Speaker 1: first round pick Lyle Collins. And Lyle Collins is a

830
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: classic case of like, I'm not comfortable letting him go

831
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: because he's bad. I'm making peace with the fact that

832
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: he's so good that he's too expensive to retain. You

833
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: just you can't keep everybody. You're already paying three of

834
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: these guys absurd salaries. So he will probably get offered

835
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: a ton of money because he's a good football player.

836
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: I'd still rather have him start, and then if he

837
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: signs the type of deal I think he's capable of getting,

838
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: you'll get a comp pick for him. That's how these

839
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: things work. So you add a compick to future draft class,

840
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: you take a step back in the twenty twenty offseason

841
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: with a hope of addressing the problem in the draft.

842
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: But if you deal him now, great, Yeah, you get

843
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, and all of a sudden, your

844
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: line's not as good and this team is positioned to

845
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: make a playoff run. I don't know why you would

846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: want to get rid of him, but let's let's look

847
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: at it maybe in a way that's more practical. It's

848
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: not the fifty eighth overall pick, but it's the fifth

849
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: round pick. It's the fourth round pick of a guy

850
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: with traits with good side that says, all right, Colombo's

851
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna work with him all year long, and if we

852
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: do lose, you know, lay out at the end of

853
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: the season. Now we've got this guy that's been grooming,

854
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: so that that's more of a possibility. And I want

855
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: to address that third question because I've said this before.

856
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a sneaky need in the draft as

857
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: a linebacker you don't think about it because Sean Lead

858
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: came back and you've got two studs in Jalen Smith

859
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: and Layton, but you did lose Damien Wilson, and we'll

860
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: see about Covington. You do have some some needs there

861
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: on special teams. I could see a mid round pick

862
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: there for the linebacker. They brought a couple in the

863
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: They've drafted a linebacker ten of the last thirteen years.

864
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: They absolutely love to do it. Yeah, and they've doubled

865
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: up a few times, including last year. And you know,

866
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine Sean Lee playing much longer than

867
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: one more season, maybe two. Joe Thomas is in a

868
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: contract year, so it's not a need right now. But yeah,

869
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: I could see him using a mid round pick on

870
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: that you mentioned Covington. I know, obviously we didn't get

871
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: to see much out of him, but based on the

872
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: things that we did get to see, do you see

873
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: him being like something promising for the future or even

874
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, I just just going off the

875
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: eye test. I mean, he's got the size, he's got

876
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: the bill that that you want. He's his neck is

877
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: bigger than my torso, like he's one of those guys

878
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's kind of an intriguing prospect

879
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: because he played quarterback for so many years. I know that, Yeah,

880
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: for his first two three years maybe, I mean, I

881
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: think I think his last couple of years he started

882
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: obviously getting bigger and made that switch to defense. But

883
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, from an awareness standpoint of where things need

884
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to be, he should be further along there. So he

885
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't get to play at last year, but I think

886
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: they're they're loading him up to play a little bit more.

887
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're I mean, we haven't really seen much.

888
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: He was inactive like sixteen out of or fifteen out

889
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: of sixteen games, I think, But I think they drafted

890
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: him to be there next Sam ideally, and you know,

891
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: we'll see if that comes to pass, but I think

892
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: he's going to have one of the first cracks at it. Now.

893
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a question here about the backup quarterback, and

894
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: I guess we don't tend to talk about the backup

895
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: very much, but since it's here, unless you go ahead

896
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: and go for it, who would be the backup right now?

897
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: It's early to tell because they haven't been back on

898
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: the field and you know, practicing that kind of way.

899
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: But you got Mike White Cooper Rush, who's looking like

900
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: the best fit to be behind Deck. I just don't

901
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: see how Mike White won't make that progression to be

902
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: the backup. And I think that if he doesn't, if

903
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: Cooper is still the guy, then I just I don't

904
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: see those three guys being the quarterbacks this year. I

905
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: just I don't see that happening. They're going to have

906
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: other needs at other positions. I understood it last year

907
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: because they want to develop Mike White. If he hasn't

908
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where he can replace Cooper Rush,

909
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: then I don't know. If he's the guy, then I

910
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: would probably just keep two quarterbacks. He needs to make

911
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: that jump to me to be the second quarterback then,

912
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know. I don't know

913
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: if they'll do that. I just don't see why you

914
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: would need to hang on to both of these guys.

915
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not trying to gloat at y'all. I

916
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: really want to gloat it Ryan, but he's not here.

917
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: But Brian through the ticker tape parade for Mike White

918
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: and I've all spring, I was like, Cooper Rush is

919
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: going to be the backup quarterback. He just is and

920
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: I was right. So there you go, Brian. Um. I

921
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know, but I kind of feeling thank you, you're right,

922
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: good good, good point. Damn Now I feel bad I

923
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: was right, but I kind of feel the same way

924
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: this year, And like in theory, you're right, and they

925
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: drafted this guy and they need to develop him. I

926
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: think about that all the time, though, is like, what,

927
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: like the only reason I'm not trying to downplay Deck's success,

928
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: but like he got reps, you know, like if none,

929
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: if he hadn't if Kellen Moore hadn't gotten hurt and

930
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Romo hadn't gotten hurt, He's getting like two reps per game,

931
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: and does he ever really I mean per practice and

932
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: does he really have a chance to show anything? Like

933
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: are they just gonna are they just gonna give Mike

934
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: White those reps without him having to earn him? And

935
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then how's he gonna pass Cooper Rush?

936
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how many reps there are

937
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: to go around, Like, if he's only getting four snaps

938
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: per team period, is he really getting enough of a chance?

939
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: And that's what I wonder about, Well, let's give him

940
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: more than force Nam suppar team. Maybe they will, but

941
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: that I'm just like the way they divvy those things up.

942
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: And he's their drafted guy, so they might do it

943
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: in the interest of seeing more of him, and that

944
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: I think people forget that sometimes that you know, I

945
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: joke with you about Mickey. You know, he says that

946
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot like I was right. That's the only thing.

947
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Scouts want to be right, too, true, and it's hard

948
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: to be right if that guy doesn't play, So they

949
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: don't want to Somebody stood on the table for Mike White.

950
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: They don't want to be It's the classic. It is

951
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: the classic dynamic though, like scouts want to be right

952
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: and coaches want their guys like it is the eternal.

953
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, we always joke like the these coaches

954
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: want to go with the boring guy that they trust

955
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: and you want to see more from the exciting draft pick.

956
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: And I understand that, but I know this coaching staff

957
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: and that's I mean case in point. I'm not trying

958
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: to throw shade at Jamay's olawally, but like those are

959
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: the types of guys that they resigned because they trust them.

960
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: They can do a variety of things. So if Cooper

961
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Rush has the trust of the right people, then it

962
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: might not matter and it's something it's something to watch.

963
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't know it would I think it would be

964
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: great for this roster if they felt confident enough to

965
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: go with two quarterbacks like because it's it's that's a

966
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: whole other player that you can add to do a

967
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: variety of other things as opposed to be inactive on

968
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: game day, which is what your third quarterback is. So

969
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: now let's go back to the draft. I see Taylor

970
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: rap name pop a lot on here. He's a safety guy,

971
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of questions whether the Cowboys might

972
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: be in the right spot to even get him. So

973
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, the possibility of the Cowboys actually him

974
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: falling down to the Cowboys. I'm oh, sorry, well he's

975
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: he's in there makes something that I think safety comes

976
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: down to the preference there. I think there's a handful

977
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: of guys that teams, you know, probably all have I

978
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't say all grouped together, but but you know, there's

979
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna be some guys that are the fifth guy on

980
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: their board, fifth safety, and this team might have them

981
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: number one. It's just going to come down to what

982
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you like for these guys to be that they came

983
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: in rap Thornhill. The guy that we're going to profile

984
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: right now, Chauncey Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Right. So there's about

985
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: five of those guys in the second round, and I

986
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: think that all of those are they very close to

987
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: each other. As far as talent, it's I think so

988
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: well that. I mean, if Taylor Rapp is available, it

989
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: will be because of I'm using air quotes here because

990
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: it's sarcasm, a perceived lack of talent, because he ran

991
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: a four seven at his pro day, which is bad

992
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: for a safety. His tapes outstanding, he was a boss

993
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: in one of the best conferences in college football, blah

994
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: blah blah um. But you know, if he slides, it'll

995
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: be because he was too slow at a stupid drill

996
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: that that doesn't actually pretend to football. So the interesting

997
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: thing about you're calling the forty stupid drill, I mean,

998
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's I mean, no, no,

999
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I think for defensive backs it is important.

1000
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: But like when you see the tape of him closing

1001
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: gap apps and making plays on the ball, I don't

1002
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: care that him running in a straight line, which nobody

1003
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: ever does, right, I don't know. Maybe that helps the Cowboys.

1004
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: It might, And that's if he's available for the Cowboys,

1005
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: it will be because of a drill and not because

1006
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: of anything that he has put on table. But scouts

1007
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: and people that do that job are smarter than just

1008
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: crazy looking at crazier things have happened. Here's the thing

1009
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: that I find interested. The guy that I I like.

1010
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: There is a thornhill. One thornhill from Virginia, but one Yeah,

1011
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: there you go? Is that? Okay? That's what I said. Um,

1012
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: he would tell you guys all the time in English,

1013
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: That's what I said. He would be. You know, he's

1014
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: interesting because he's a safety, but he played two years

1015
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: at corner at Virginia and he's got the look that

1016
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Christopher Shard definitely likes to see there at the cornerback

1017
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: because Johnsy's the same way. Jauncy Gardner. Johnson played his

1018
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: last season at Florida in the slot. Long Arms played

1019
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: some safety. I mean, I could see them valuing a

1020
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: guy with the often desired position flex because just like

1021
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: the guy called about tackle, cornerback is interesting too. Cornerback

1022
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: is one of those positions where yeah, Jones, Jones of WOZ, Yeah,

1023
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: I see that, but what about next years? Jones coming back,

1024
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown. Cornerback has got to be addressed

1025
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: in this draft at some point. I like it changes

1026
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: so much. That's what I was gonna say, is like

1027
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: it's exhausting. The draft is exhausting enough, but when you

1028
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: don't pick till fifty eight, like the it's like, well,

1029
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: will he be there? And it's like, I don't know.

1030
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: That depends on what thirty two other teams do twice

1031
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: basically because you're five picks away from the end of

1032
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: the second round, so who on earth knows? But I

1033
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: just sort of I'm just starting to feel like cornerback,

1034
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: it's something to consider. Like you watch Hi, okay cornerback safety.

1035
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that they allow Chris Richard to be

1036
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: very involved in these conversations and allow him to have

1037
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good input. Part of why I think that

1038
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: they might do that because he's like, look, I need

1039
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, if we're not going to keep

1040
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Byron or Anthony Brown for that matter, I need a

1041
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: guy who can do what I wanted to do, who

1042
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: fits my mold, like not trying to project too far

1043
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: in the future. But if I'm going to be the

1044
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or maybe the head coach, who the hell knows,

1045
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I think that's it's fascinating

1046
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: because the coaching staff doesn't get involved in this process

1047
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: until recently, like you know, the thirty visits the last

1048
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: two weeks. So the narrative that you heard in January,

1049
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: when it's only the personnel people doing the legwork. It

1050
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: changes when the coaches get involved and Chris Richard starts

1051
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: really watching tape and he's like that guy, I need

1052
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: that guy in my defense will be so much better.

1053
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: Or Rod Marinelli is like, that's the guy that can

1054
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: come around the right side. I mean that was DeMarcus Lawrence.

1055
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Speaker 1: That was the narrative the whole time is Rod says

1056
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: he's the dude, and like that matters what these coaches

1057
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: think and say about these prospects, and it changes the

1058
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Speaker 1: draft board. So it'll be interesting. I mean, that's if

1059
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: they draft the defensive back really high. That's Scott Christoshar

1060
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: had written all over it. Well, we're about the end

1061
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: of the show, but since we started late, let's just

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Speaker 1: have a couple of minutes. I wanted to bring this

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00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: question in and Brian said it. I thought it was ridiculous,

1064
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: but since we mentioned him earlier, let's just go ahead

1065
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: and go for it. The chance thoughts on moving Byron

1066
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: back to his old position, Oh, why exactly? I don't

1067
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: know why. Why would you? I mean, he was named

1068
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: second team All Pro, he was a pro bowler, and

1069
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's a case to be made that his

1070
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: play slipped the final month of the season. He had

1071
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: hip surgery, so maybe in hindsight that was part of it,

1072
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: But no, my gosh, he was so good at corner

1073
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: and the safeties are better than the backup corners to me.

1074
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: I mean if when I look at Jordan Lewis and

1075
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown playing their positions as opposed to Jeff Heath

1076
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: and say, if he were to draft a corner, since

1077
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Speaker 1: you're looking for a corner, would you consider drafting a

1078
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: corner if it comes to being someone good at the

1079
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight Well, I have a hard time believing that

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: a cornerback you would draft at fifty eight is going

1081
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: to be better than a pro bowler right off the bat.

1082
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: I think any any defense in which Nick I think

1083
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: you make a great point is I would guess that

1084
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: they're going to draft a guy who can do a

1085
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. You remember Xavier Woods his rookie season,

1086
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: he was a sub package player, He played in the slot.

1087
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: He was their third safety when they did dime and

1088
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: Money forty four and all those good things. I think

1089
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: that would likely be the role for a corner or

1090
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: a safety that even though it's fifty eight, it's not

1091
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: that much different than when they drafted Byron Jones at

1092
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven and back in twenty fifteen and where it

1093
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: was like, I think he's gonna play corner right now,

1094
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: he might move to safety, might move back to corner.

1095
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: I could. I could see. This is where you're looking

1096
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: at value and you can get safety is a need

1097
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: and cornerback is a need that's coming up. It just

1098
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: makes sense to get a guy. How many of them

1099
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: are like that? Gardner Johnson three, I mean a few,

1100
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson and Thornhill for sure. I don't know about

1101
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: rap reps. Probably REP could probably do a little bit.

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00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abram, who we have on the cover of this

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00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: draft of the linebacker safety, but hey, bring him on too.

1104
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Well, we're very close up to

1105
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Speaker 1: the draft, so we'll know pretty soon what happens there.

1106
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Speaker 1: And we have a press conference here at twelve thirty,

1107
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: thirty minutes from now, we have press conference. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening live, we'll be Jerry and Steve will be talking

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00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: about nothing, but they are gonna have a press conference

1110
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Speaker 1: about the draft. And then tonight schedule released seven pm

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Speaker 1: Central time, So be on the low cow all right.

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