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Speaker 1: Ay, you found the Second Date podcast. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Finally, it's pretty easy actually, thanks for being here, Hose.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, And hey, just a reminder, if you

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Speaker 2: want to endure or punish yourself for forty five more minutes,

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Speaker 2: we've got a full.

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Speaker 1: Show, whole hour along. I dare you to try it

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Speaker 1: at the Brook and Jeffrey Feed.

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Speaker 3: But for now we'll get into some questionable relationship advice.

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Speaker 4: Second Date Update Date. Most women have their own unwritten

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Speaker 4: rules they set down for a first date. Now, Alexis

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Speaker 4: might not agree because these rules I found online were

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Speaker 4: written by men, but they still be good that you

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Speaker 4: think that number one always be willing to pay for half?

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Speaker 4: Should I stop there? Or do you want me to?

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Speaker 4: I can get to don't drink too much? The best

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Speaker 4: dates of sober Date.

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Speaker 1: Why find this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why would it look? Want to remember?

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Speaker 4: Anyway? We have a woman on the phone named Katrina

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Speaker 4: who has her own unwritten rule for dates that she

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Speaker 4: brings someone along on her first one every time. Wow, Katrina,

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Speaker 4: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I think I'm more amazed that you can find

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Speaker 2: someone to come with you.

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Speaker 1: Every time, you know, like once or twice as a friend.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, girl, I am not going on your

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Speaker 2: eighth first date if you don't even want to go.

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Speaker 1: On their own dates.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, if you would pay for half of the meal,

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Speaker 4: that people would be more than excited to hang out

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 6: And if you have a third you can triple it.

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Speaker 4: You split. There you go. But we want to learn

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Speaker 4: about you and your dating life, Katrina, So tell us

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Speaker 4: who do you like to bring along on your dates

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Speaker 4: with you? Like a friend?

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I like to ask my mom to come.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, jeez, why psycho?

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Speaker 6: Okay, no, hold on before you say anything. I love moms.

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Speaker 6: If a girls shout up with her mom on a date,

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Speaker 6: I'd be so happy.

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Speaker 1: No, you would not, That is not true.

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Speaker 6: Would give me a hug, I'll get your for.

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Speaker 1: A first date? Why would you do that?

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Speaker 7: Well, I have my mom kind of creep in the background.

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Speaker 7: It's not like she's sitting with us or anything like,

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Speaker 7: just to make sure that, like the vibes are right

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Speaker 7: and that I'm safe. And you know, you never know.

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Speaker 4: Who I'm that you need someone to make sure your

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Speaker 4: form is right on the kiss too? So in you

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Speaker 4: mean she's just like.

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Speaker 6: A random person at the bar. Do you introduce her

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Speaker 6: to your dates?

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Speaker 7: No, spot on, She's just a random person at the bar.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's better.

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Speaker 1: It's better, it's better that is I mean, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, girl, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you listen.

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Speaker 3: That feels unhealthy to me.

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Speaker 4: Really, Brooke doesn't want to let her children leave the

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Speaker 3: I mean, I say that, but I don't really want

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Speaker 4: Just like you know, Brook is definitely going to be

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Speaker 6: Me just cut all your steak really quickly, and then

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Speaker 6: you guys continue.

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Speaker 3: So I'm guessing the mom went on this one.

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Speaker 4: We're being so judging here. We haven't even heard the

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Speaker 4: date yet. Tell us about what what you guys did.

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Speaker 4: And this guy that you went out with, Well.

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Speaker 7: To start at the beginning, this guy Jeremy, I met

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Speaker 7: him on I know you're gonna roll your eyes. I

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Speaker 6: But that's way better than.

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Speaker 8: The first thing you started this.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna try not to judge.

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Speaker 5: Keep going.

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Speaker 4: You met him online, all right, Well we got.

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Speaker 7: On gender, and honestly, we hit it off pretty quick,

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Speaker 7: but like it kind of seems stagnant, like it wasn't

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Speaker 7: we most talked about food, like we're both just big duties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, nice, Okay, so yeah, yeah, but it felt

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Speaker 7: You say, yeah, like I sort of just had to

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Speaker 4: Well, some guys do need that, They need that extra

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Speaker 4: push to be like, hey, ask me out already, right

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Speaker 7: A matter of week, I'm gonna say something like I am.

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Speaker 9: That girl.

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Speaker 3: So assertive and then bring your mom.

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Speaker 1: I love it. The first part.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. We do this segment to find out

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Speaker 4: what things you love and what things you don't. We

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Speaker 4: got to figure out what Katrina did for her date.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I want to hear.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Katrina, where did you and your mom go?

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Speaker 7: Okay? Well he suggested sushi?

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Speaker 4: Love that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I chose the restaurant because I knew where

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Speaker 1: And so you're excited about this date.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm all in, I'm ready to go. And

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Speaker 7: so I end up carpooling there with my mom and

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Speaker 7: we get there like a little early, obviously because I

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Speaker 7: don't want to get busted, But I have mom posts

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Speaker 7: and everything's pretty normal at this point.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask, like, when you're separated from your mother,

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Speaker 2: are you guys like secretly meeting in the bathroom at

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Speaker 5: On the date?

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Speaker 7: Not necessarily? I mean there was one point when like

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Speaker 7: I definitely did just one quick check.

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Speaker 9: In with her.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you guy's risky.

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Speaker 1: I look so much like my mom. If someone saw

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Speaker 1: me talking, you know, a million percent to.

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Speaker 4: Rob leave you for your mom, because it sounds like

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Speaker 4: if you only checked in with your mom once, the

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Speaker 4: date must have been going pretty well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we were making quick work at the

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Speaker 7: sushi menu. We did it all, from sushi to sashimi

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Speaker 2: Okay, section you're leaning in on the foody connection you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, So like it was pretty chill.

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Speaker 6: How does a mom date end? Like, does she watch you? Guys?

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Speaker 6: I'm being serious.

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Speaker 2: It's like because he can't walk her to the car

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like my mom.

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Speaker 1: Has the keys.

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Speaker 6: Right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, we went outside and yes, I have to get

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Speaker 7: to finesse this. So I'm like, hey, this was great,

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Speaker 7: and I like gave him a quick kiss, but like

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Speaker 6: You initiated it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, again, I am that girl.

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Speaker 1: That's rare in front of your mom?

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Speaker 6: Was it in front of your mom? Did you see?

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, she was like lurking in the background, lurking.

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Speaker 4: The cameras out and everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and what do you mean he seems surprised by

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Speaker 1: How so?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, Like I kind of just threw it

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Speaker 7: looks like he was reeling a tiny bit. I don't know.

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Speaker 9: We did just eat a bunch of sushi.

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Speaker 7: That could be on me.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was weird for him because his dad was

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Speaker 4: also the duke. The mom's over by the bar. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the grandparents are in the car outside.

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Speaker 2: It happens, I will love it so hard.

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Speaker 4: I really hope not, but maybe it will. If we

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Speaker 4: come back, they'll call Jeremy for you and try and

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Speaker 4: get your second date update right after this.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, hold on second date.

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Speaker 4: Update if you're just joining us for the second date update.

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Speaker 4: We're on the phone with Katrina, whose first date would

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Speaker 4: be an absolute nightmare for most of us in this room,

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Speaker 4: but for her, it's totally normal to bring along her

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Speaker 4: mom as the third wheel. Just make sure that everything's

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Speaker 4: going right. As far as we can tell, her date,

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Speaker 4: Jeremy did not know that her mom was even there

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Speaker 4: the whole time, watching, peeping in on their first kiss. Katrina,

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Speaker 4: did you hold your finger up to give mom a

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Speaker 4: to happen? It would have been kind of romantic.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think everyone was caught off guard by the

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Speaker 1: For some reason.

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Speaker 2: I just imagine your mother in the window of that

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Speaker 2: sushi restaurant just banging on it, saying, wait to go, honey.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank god that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but after the date, your mom did approve of him?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely okay, And we never asked either. Have

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Speaker 2: you talk to him since I know that you said

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Speaker 2: the kiss took him off guard?

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Speaker 3: But maybe have you heard anything?

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Speaker 7: No, that's why I'm calling you. It's just it's been awkward.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what's up.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully we can help smooth things over. We're about to

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Speaker 4: call your boy here and hopefully turn Katrina and Jeremy

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Speaker 4: into the power couple. Katam me, Hey, got a nice.

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Speaker 5: Ring to it?

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Speaker 1: Did we need to dial her mom in on the

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Speaker 4: I'm sure she's watching through one of the windows of

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Speaker 4: the studio. I'm going to dial him right now. Let's

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 4: Hey, is this Jeremy?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Who's this?

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Speaker 4: Uh, we're we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 1: Hey Jeremy, Hey you doing.

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Speaker 9: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Hey, you're quite the talker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So a tough nut to crack, jeff.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, but hopefully we can because we're trying to help

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Speaker 4: out one of our listeners with this segment we're doing

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Speaker 4: called a second Date Update. Basically, you went out with

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Speaker 4: a girl named Katrina the other night to a sushi restaurant,

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Speaker 4: and we're trying to kind of pick your brain about it.

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Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, that was a scam.

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Speaker 1: What what did you say? Scam?

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Speaker 6: Like you scammed her?

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Speaker 5: No, No, I think she's got some kind of operations

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Speaker 5: she's running.

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Speaker 4: You can you please elaborate because we have no idea

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Speaker 4: what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did not allude to any sort of scam

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Speaker 2: when we talked to her.

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Speaker 5: It was a date, right, well, all right, we went

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Speaker 5: to a sushi restaurant.

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Speaker 9: We ordered a ton of food.

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Speaker 9: So at the end the bill came, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I just think it's the right thing to do. Although,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we had a big night, you ordered a

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Speaker 5: thank god that one, I don't have to pay for

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Speaker 5: this all. But two that that's nice of her to,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really considerate, Alexis. It is a nice thing.

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Speaker 4: Guys appreciate that and like that about women. Whatever, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get my card. Jeff, Yeah, yeah, she says, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: So sorry, Jeremy.

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Speaker 5: Keep going, well, but hold on because the bill came

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Speaker 9: Had a quick moment of what's happening. And then he

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Speaker 9: turned to her and said, and here's your loyalty card.

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Speaker 1: What oh, that's.

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Speaker 6: Her favorite sushi playing Wait.

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Speaker 2: So like she threw it down, so like if you

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Speaker 2: like that type of deal.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you mean?

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Speaker 9: She was getting some kind of like reward points for

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Speaker 1: I just then, oh, it's a scam. Like, why wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Like you're eating there, you don't have a loyalty card.

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Speaker 6: It's weird that she.

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Speaker 4: Would get all the benefits from their meal together that

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Speaker 1: You can join someone buys me Starbucks. It's so hard

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's a scalm. I bet she just

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Speaker 1: didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 4: How much was it? How much was the bill that

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Speaker 6: She has got to be a hundred or so.

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Speaker 9: I think it was closer to like two hundred bucks.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 5: Said the scam because I just suddenly got a flash

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Speaker 5: of her taking like every internet guy to this one

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Speaker 8: That isenious, I'm racking up the free California rolls and nobody.

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Speaker 4: Even knows you're gonna You're creating a little monster in our.

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Speaker 1: Studio texting on my friends right now. I'm sorry. That

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Speaker 4: It is weird that none of that came up when

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you she doesn't even think about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she just.

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Speaker 4: Takes money from guys and gets the rewards to herself. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we need to clear this up and actually have Katrina

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Speaker 4: on the line. She is on the phone already, by

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Speaker 4: the way, Jerry, wanting to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Does it will feel less scammy?

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Speaker 9: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how this segment works. We have them listening

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Speaker 7: That feels normal, sir, respectfully, What are you talking about?

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Speaker 7: Like I'm running you suggested sushi. I suggested the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Oh she got you.

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Speaker 9: Wait a minute, wait, you just said you picked the

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Speaker 7: So what I was going to talk to you for

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Speaker 7: even though I told you pick absolutely anything.

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Speaker 5: Wait, wait a.

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Speaker 9: Minute, just answer me. Yes, you have you taken other

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Speaker 9: internet dates to that same place?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Quite frankly, that is none of your business. And

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Speaker 7: I know that's where my mom and I like to go.

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Speaker 7: It's our favorite restaurant, she and I.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, because you get all the free food there.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you, guys, Jeffer, you really think that she

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Speaker 2: going out on terrible dates with them, like it is

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Speaker 2: not worth Like I can't imagine all of that energy

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Speaker 4: I guess I do see Brooks point. You can be

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Speaker 4: running a tighter scam than this. Yeah, maybe you need

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Speaker 4: to like streamline this.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, The reward is not worth the efforts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, maybe I'm to buy some gift cards too.

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Speaker 5: Next time you keep saying it's not worth it, then

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Speaker 7: You offered to pay. I said thank you because that

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to let one hundred and sixty bucks,

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Speaker 7: like one hundred dollars bill go without like just putting

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Speaker 7: points on my card like you're paying for anyway, Like,

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Speaker 7: why not it?

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Speaker 4: So you said you and your mom go there? Did

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Speaker 3: Why would it matter?

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 9: I always use my loyalty card when we go and

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Speaker 7: And yeah, we went there like a week or so

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Speaker 4: Of points on that card for several meals.

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Speaker 8: The guys, you bought her mom dinner. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing, after hearing the way this man feels

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Speaker 7: just pull the curtain all the way back. Let's get

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Speaker 7: so real right now. Sure, the week or so after

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Speaker 7: when I went there with my mom was not even

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Speaker 7: the most important time that I went there with my mom.

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Speaker 7: I think the most note for the time is the

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know if Jeremy knew that that's not.

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Speaker 6: A real bomb you think it is.

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Speaker 7: I The thing is, she was just watching to make

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Speaker 4: And then, Jeremy, you gave off. Do you feel like

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Speaker 3: Her mom was going to save her.

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Speaker 9: You thought I was going to murder you in the

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Speaker 4: Maybe not in the restaurant, but maybe the barking one probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: after you pay the bill. Yeah, they need the loyalty points.

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Speaker 3: I think the more important point is did you hear

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I don't even understand your mom is chaperoning your day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's a bunch of weirdos on the internet,

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Speaker 4: You Well, it's so romantic at this point, I just

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Speaker 4: have to ask if you two would like to go

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Speaker 6: Moms and karens all.

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Speaker 4: Invited and Jeremy, we're going to pay for it this time.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you your own punch card.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think, Jeremy, This is like more

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Speaker 5: twisted than I even imagine.

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Speaker 4: There's no scam here. We'll pay for everything.

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Speaker 9: Let her go out with their mom. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I like to do that.

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Speaker 4: So the loyalty points are running low, though, So who's

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Speaker 7: You guys?

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Speaker 6: Will?

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Speaker 7: You already said you were going to give me a

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Speaker 7: guest card.

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Speaker 4: Now you're running a scam on us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: She's really good at it, though, I'm still okay with it.

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Speaker 4: I know Brooke ven about four hundred dollars right now.

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,